More clear stances from Labour

March 15th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

was on The Farming Show and asked about whether he will go along with Winston’s policy to confiscate the shares of people who purchase Mighty River Power shares.

As before, he won’t rule it in or out. How can you fudge a policy of this magnitude?

But the best is yet to come. David Shearer explain why they are unlikely to buy the shares back because the proceeds from will be spent on schools and hospitals and they couldn’t afford to buy them back.

That’s a stunning implicit admission that the schools and hospitals would not be affordable without the asset sales. He also agrees that spending money from asset sales on irrigation would be money well spent but warns that most of the proceeds will go on schools and hospitals, not irrigation!

You have to listen to it yourself to believe it.

Later on is also a clip with Larry Williams on the car park tax. Now it is obvious to almost everyone that the Government is going to back down on this tax. So you’d think it would be a simple thing to do and say you will abolish it, if it is implemented.

Larry Williams asks him if he would wind it back – the equivalent of an easy pitch. And the answer is “We’ll certainly look at it”.

The audio is embedded above. If that doesn’t work you can listen to them here. It’s great to have the Labour Party Leader talking about how the asset sales will be used to fund schools and hospitals!

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26 Responses to “More clear stances from Labour”

  1. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    The only reason why the govt might back down on car park tax is because Chuck resigned for a gig at the UN. All that matters is the numbers and the rest is mindless bleating from both sides of the house.

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  2. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    I find it strange during this drought how Winston has not informed the electorate the reason farmers suffer is because govt does not allow farmers to store rain water.

    This was Winston’s golden opportunity to speak out what the govt and media does not

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  3. Pete George (22,784 comments) says:

    A transcript of part of the interview:

    Would you do a Winston and buy them back, compulsorily buy them back if you took office?

    I can’t see we would be in a position to be able to do that, I mean, so I can’t put my hand on my heart and say to people that we would buy them back, ah, that wouldn’t be right.

    Ah, look, the bottom line is when you sell these assets and the proceeds come in, and you spend them as the Government says it’s going to spend them on schools and hospitals, I don’t see how we can afford to buy them back when we came into office.

    I’m not going to rule it out, but certainly I think it’s very unlikely.

    http://yournz.org/2013/03/14/shearer-less-uncertain-on-buy-back-of-assets/

    It’s hard to know if Shearer is fudging or fudge brained.

    If he thinks National should borrow more now instead of selling asset shares then why does he think Labour “couldn’t afford” to borrow the same amount later later to buy them back? Surely Labour’s dividends versus paying loan inteerst argument swould still apply if Labour lead the next government.

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  4. Tristan (63 comments) says:

    I agree with you DPF..it’s called courage of your convictions.

    Labour should commit to buying them back if it is such a bad idea to sell them. In fact if we are losing more money by selling them then it makes economic sense to buy them back as soon as possible.

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  5. Jaffa (80 comments) says:

    In the past, I have voted for National, and Labour, whoever had the policies that appealed to me.
    The choice now is a National Government, or a chaotic rabble.
    The Opposition horrifies me with it’s incompetence, dishonesty, and the appalling nature of their politicians.

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  6. Cunningham (811 comments) says:

    Good god, how on earth did he become leader of our main opposition?????

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  7. Pete George (22,784 comments) says:

    With bold clear leadership Shearer can easily buy back the shares, even without the borrowing he prefers National do.

    Winston Peters said they will take Kiwisaver funds off us to force buy our shares off us, and Russel Norman is preparing himself as the new Minister of Xerox.

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  8. dime (9,396 comments) says:

    so basically, shearer struggles to be a lying shit head like the rest of his party!

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  9. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    The choice now is a National Government, or a chaotic rabble

    National is a chaotic rabble. If you remove your eye patch, you might just see it. :)

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  10. sbk (308 comments) says:

    “Good god, how on earth did he become leader of our main opposition’”…ed Zachary..not that God had anything to do with it(a Good God wouldnt curse us so)…but me thinks,Hulun wields a big stick from far afield.

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  11. Lance (2,443 comments) says:

    So ross69

    Are you proud of the very firm maybe’s and perhaps’s from your dear leader?

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  12. mjwilknz (612 comments) says:

    Can’t people see the task Shearer faces? He has to help Labour get through it’s own “ideological burb”. He knows that buying assets back is never going to be an option. (In fact, I wonder if he actually favoured selling them in the first place.) But he has to fudge answers about it because his support base might not have woken up to that, yet.

    Shearer leads a party that, a couple of elections ago, had a very domineering leader who many of its supporters worshipped. Her policies are not quickly forgotten. It takes time for the supporters to realise that things are moving on and that the left needs to change with them.

    Personally, I wish Shearer the best of luck. The better this country’s opposition improves itself, the more effective Government it will have.

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  13. Peter (1,578 comments) says:

    Definitely, maybe.

    Shearers favourite album.

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  14. hannity (151 comments) says:

    Yeah , DPF much prefers Keys’ lie and pretend to forget approach .

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  15. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    It’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for him.

    Almost. He did volunteer for the role after all. And he fought tooth and nail recently to keep it…

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  16. anonymouse (695 comments) says:

    FFS! have they not worked out a media line to stick to on Asset sales by NOW!@@#

    letting Shearer in front of a live mic is like amateur hour, he ums, errs and sits on the fence,

    Everybody knows both Winston and the Greens will support buying those assets back, are you seriously telling me that Labour are going to go into the 2014 election with a policy of ” we might buy them back, but it is unlikely”…. Jeez Lousie, I actually feel sorry for those over at the Standard, Labour are gonna get mowed down like the Valentines day Massacre if they continue with “non-policy” like this…..

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  17. s.russell (1,560 comments) says:

    how on earth did he become leader of our main opposition?

    Because all the alternatives were even worse.

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  18. thedavincimode (6,530 comments) says:

    How long until we see the same degree of general derision that Gillard appears to be attracting in Oz. He’s had a bit over year in which he has managed to cement the impression of being lazy, indecisive, underprepared and generally lacking in competence. He has shown no sign of improvement and in fact, if anything he appears worse now than at the outset. Perhaps, in fairness, that’s a perception arising from the underwhelming accumulation of nothingness, as distinct from any actual decline in performance per se.

    So what will that perception be in say, a year’s time, and will the media then still be able to resist climbing into him. Certainly, with another year of what we’ve seen in the last year, there is every prospect that he will just be a laughing stock. It will be interesting to see how Liebour time his disposal because on the one hand, they will want to carry some of the lift they get from giving him the arse into the election, but in the meantime, the faithful will continue to desert them in droves for the melons.

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  19. OneTrack (2,583 comments) says:

    thedavincimode (4,572) Says:
    March 15th, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    “and will the media then still be able to resist climbing into him.

    I am horribly afraid that they will resist. After all he is on “their” team.

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  20. Steve Wrathall (238 comments) says:

    “you know, I’m not saying that’s not a b-bad thing”

    Sooo…It’s a bad thing? I’m confused

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  21. Reid (15,921 comments) says:

    The Opposition horrifies me with it’s incompetence, dishonesty, and the appalling nature of their politicians.

    Some of us have always seen them like that Jafa and history has shown we’re the ones who are correct. With the singular 1984-87 exception of course.

    But yeah, it’s like a permanent drought isn’t it, Liarbore politics. Just gets worse and worse, day after day after day, with no end in sight.. I mean even if you took them all outside and hosed them all down I bet it still wouldn’t make any difference.

    It will be interesting to see how Liebour time his disposal because on the one hand, they will want to carry some of the lift they get from giving him the arse into the election, but in the meantime, the faithful will continue to desert them in droves for the melons.

    I know. Isn’t it sad. Pretty soon the once proud Liarbore Party national conference attendees will look like this.

    The weally weally weally sad thing is, that image is also what the deserting Liarbore leemings are jumping onto, and it also looks like what we’ll all look like, after thwee long years of a Liarbore/Gween Gween/Liarbore/NZF/Mana coalition.

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  22. Pete George (22,784 comments) says:

    Reid, that linked pixcture looks incorrect. They aren’t fighting.

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  23. Reid (15,921 comments) says:

    They aren’t fighting.

    They’re the refugee survivors from the fighting Pete. They left the others dead and dying on the beach…

    They’re the “lucky” ones.

    Hone BTW survived, he’s the one with his foot on the barrel signalling with his Tino Rangatiratanga flag.

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  24. SPC (5,375 comments) says:

    It’s already been said but I’ll add this – Shearer’s position is based on cognitive dissonance.

    Part 1.

    We should borrow to fund the spending because this makes sense (is a good decision because we will be better off) but we will not borrow to buy the shares back because this does not make sense (is a bad decision because we cannot afford this).

    Part 2

    We will not borrow to buy the shares back, but if NZF makes it a condition then we will afford it by borrowing the money.

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  25. HC (152 comments) says:

    The carpark tax issue was well dealt with by Cunliffe, so why would you be surprised that Shearer is a bit hum ho about it. He is one in the wrong place there at the helm, and hopefully he will slowly learn this and get the message. NEVER will Labour get anywhere with a shorn and brain dumb shearer.

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  26. HC (152 comments) says:

    David Farrar, stop your viciousness, do NOT mention Shearer, as that will sink the polls for the alternative right away, no matter what. You know it, you groomed him and it was a disaster and idiotic scheme that some within Labour engaged in. How bloody much do you know and do you have to answer, dear friend??? NZ needs a leader and a competent party behind him or her. I see this on neither side. We have morally, mentally and intellectually redundant idiots and sycophants run the show. Forget all promises of a “Switzerland of the South Pacific”. This country is the holes in the Swiss cheese that never made it here. It is full of gas, air, and flabberghasting dumbness and idocy. I am not ashamed to say so as a migrant of 20 years.

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