Nice the Greens have so much time
March 1st, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David FarrarCatherine Delahunty blogs:
A quiet road outside Hamilton, the Hukanui Marae car park is full of journalists. Hone Harawira, David Clendon, I and a few others are welcomed on by Ngāti Wairere. This is Tame Iti’s mother’s marae so on the first day of freedom he comes here to start his journey home. Tame is in the wharekai with his sons, mokopuna, sister and other whanau and his lawyer. He is looking great, very calm and tranquil but there is something in his eyes, this strange new morning without bars.
It’s nice a couple of Green MPs have the time to welcome a convicted criminal upon his release from prison.
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March 1st, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Well, to be fair DPF, convicted criminals ARE Delahunty’s constituency. That and the criminally / clinically insane.
March 1st, 2013 at 3:04 pm
“there is something in his eyes”
Yeah, cannabis.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 3:07 pm
“It’s nice a couple of Green MPs have the time to welcome a convicted criminal upon his release from prison.”
And get paid for it. Wonder what the timesheet code is for that?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 3:13 pm
…but before he met this rent-a-crowd, he went and had a coffee.
Vote:Now THAT’S what I call getting the priorities right!
March 1st, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Does Madam Delahunty and her other Greenie associate seriously think that someone like Tame Iti has any regard for them or for their apparent touchie feelie type concern for his welfare and future?
I’d bet more than a dollar that someone as wily as Tama Iti has the exact measure of these political/sociological babes in arms, and is ready to exploit their heart-worn-on-the-sleeve concern for his welfare to the absolute limit to his and his cause’s advantage.
Sheep for the shearing?? You betcha!!
March 1st, 2013 at 3:34 pm
Tama Iti – Future Green MP
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 3:37 pm
“..this strange new morning without bars.”
Really? I didn’t know Tama Iti had given up drinking!
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Frankly, I’ve never seen Iti smile so widely.
Prison has done him a lot of good it seems.
Perhaps he should spend more time there
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 3:47 pm
i doubt this is his first time getting out of prison.
remember back in the mid 90s when he was done for tying up a local kid and essentially torturing him?
at the same time he was on the board of trustees for the local Kura Kaupapa school, and due to his house arrest they had to have BOT meetings at his house. according to the principal (who was an awesome guy), Iti is a nice fellow and really good with kids!
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:00 pm
Air travel, rental cars accomodation, meals, Koha claimed as “Parliamentary Business? Not to mention the carbon footprint of that little sojourn.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:01 pm
but before he met this rent-a-crowd, he went and had a coffee.
A flat whitey wasn’t it?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I am wondering what portfolio Delahunty will be getting in the 2014 David Shearer-Norman led government……
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:10 pm
Utter contempt for wiggers, perhaps?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:17 pm
Who’s that criminal who regulary posts here and who helped prop up the last National government? Can’t be too important, otherwise DPF would have been screaming blue murder.
March 1st, 2013 at 4:35 pm
He is described in the media as an “activist and community leader”.
Is this a trend where we will no longer see convicted criminals, who have served their time, being labeled as: Rapists, child sex offenders, gunmen, fraudsters, “beasts” etc ?
I will wait and see….
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:55 pm
What romanticised tosh. Is this written by a grown up?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 4:58 pm
I very much doubt it.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Ross69>Who’s that criminal who regulary posts here and who helped prop up the last National government?
Are you talking about Trevor Mallard who has an assault conviction, who profits from illegally scalping concert tickets to teenage girls, and who has propped up a couple of National governments via his inept election campaigns? If so, I haven’t seen him post here in a while.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 6:16 pm
Really? I didn’t know Tama Iti had given up drinking!
He said once many years ago that he gave up drinking when he got his moko because doing that is part of the [true] culture of that custom.
The thing about Iti, as opposed to say Hone, is that he has genuine principles and he sticks to them. Whether or not you agree with those principles is another matter, but it sticks out a mile. In stark contrast to many [like Hone] who claim to operate on a principled basis but when it comes down to it let them fly completely out the window in favour of the exigency of the moment.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Iti stands for Parliament one day, if he did, I think he’d get in, in one of the Maori electorates. He may never do that, I suspect he concluded a long time ago he doesn’t wish to join that poisonous game of snakes and swine, but who knows. And if he does, we could do a lot worse than have someone like him in the House. As I say, whether or not you agree with his principles, he does have them. Same as Turia and (possibly? – my jury’s still out on him), Sharples.
What romanticised tosh. Is this written by a grown up?
No she’s a Gween, being grownup is incompatible with their entry criteria. Just like honesty is incompatible with being a Liarbore candidate.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Reid: “The thing about Iti, as opposed to say Hone, is that he has genuine principles and he sticks to them.”
Vote:“genuine principles”? WTF? I have, unfortunately, met Iti. I believe he is completely insane.
March 1st, 2013 at 6:44 pm
Karen Hay said on Radio Live the other night that she saw Hekia Parata in the hairdressers during the work day and asked herself if Novapay had been fixed?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Being insane doesn’t mean you can’t have principles and stick to them. Whether they are of any value or not is a completely different story.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 6:52 pm
I’m not convince Iti and co. were anything other than immature adults playing cowboys and indians .
A bit silly , who really believes they were going to commit mass murder?
Not I.
Although, I’d love to see the suppressed evidence. Surely in this day and age it could be ‘leaked’ to the net
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 7:00 pm
wreck1080 (2,698) Says:
March 1st, 2013 at 6:52 pm
I’m not convince Iti and co. were anything other than immature adults playing cowboys and indians .
A bit silly , who really believes they were going to commit mass murder?
Not I.
Although, I’d love to see the suppressed evidence. Surely in this day and age it could be ‘leaked’ to the net
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sort if like the unavailble evidence that Dotcom isn’t goping to get.
Why trust the spooks on level 2?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 7:41 pm
Kerry Tankard will be well known to some readers.
She is a Wellington based anarchist, connected to the 128 Abel Smith Street crowd. She also worked with three of the “Urewera 17″ Simon/Rongomai Bailey, Emily Bailey and Marama Mayrick, on the anarchist/Green Party supported radical environmentalist film Kotahi Ao.
Tankard, is also a Green Party activist and often posts on Green Forum under the name Katie.
She posted this on Green Forum, the day after the October 15th anti terror raids.
Location: Aro Valley, Wellington
Activist arrests in Wellington Posted: 16 Oct 2007 21:36
In the interests of supporting those who have been arrested, discussions were held last night at 128 Able Smith St.
I am re-posting a statement verbatim from Indymedia Collective, as a response to those who are concerned or confused about what is being said in media and local gossip.
Quote:
This morning I opened the herald to see what the bullshit the media were spinning about the raids and saw a comment allegedly from a flatmate of one of the activists arrested yesterday in Auckland.
I thought it would be obvious not to comment to the media but apparently not.
I guess I just want to remind people not to talk amongst themselves and speculate and especially do not talk to the media. They are not your friends and they will use you to get the inside scoop.
This was obvious in another article I got forwarded this morning from Bomber’s blog. He was sniffing around last night at Unite and had cornered some less experienced activists and was asking them what was going on…
As someone quite rightly put it last night….’if not one talks, everyone walks’.
It is not gossip it is fucken serious and some of our comrades are facing a long time behind bars, it would be good if people could remember that.
Now is an important time to remember AND PRACTISE those good old rules about security culture and solidarity!
The media are easy to ignore however the filth is a different story and it is likely that they will want to ‘talk’ to some people. If you are concerned about this and don’t know what your rights are etc… please seek the advise of an experienced activist who you TRUST. Maybe we need to have a workshop around this sometime in the next few days so that everyone is confident.
Love and solidarity!
Please respect the very serious position that the arrests have put some of our very dear friends in.
We have already seen a former policeman, Detective John Dewar, convicted for perverting the course of justice in the Shipton/Schollum/Rickards case; we know they lie.
The case at hand is under District Court strictures, there are suppression orders in place. We would prefer activists not to be branded as terrorists, in the face of Police PR and dubiously executed search warrants, and media clutching at straws to create a “good story”.
To all who have offered support, thanks on behalf of activists who do not have access to these forums. A legal fund has been started, and practical support for the arrestees on remand has begun.
Kerry Tankard
(Katie)
Member
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2007/12/evidence-of-green-partyanarchist.html
So why would the comrades be facing a long time behind bars if it is all a police beat up?
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 7:48 pm
Keith Locke : “I would feel more comfortable in the company of those arrested in the raids than I would among some of my fellow MP’s in Parliament”.* http://www.youtube.com/v/lyCA_h3pkgk
what the bugs revealed
Vote:http://www.webcitation.org/5TKxD2fdq
March 1st, 2013 at 8:15 pm
Nice to see all of Tama’s whanau managed to get time of work for the day.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 8:37 pm
Anyone who is unconcerned about what this bunch of would-be terrorists was doing up there in the bush is naive at best…and those who say “saying they were going to kill the PM and doing it are quite different things” are being disingenuous at best…in our very open society where anyone can near the PM, it would not be hard at all, especially if the dickhead with the gun or bomb was prepared to die…as a flinty eyed fanatic like Urs Singer would be…
wreck: There is plenty of evidence out there now to concern anyone with half a brain…the stuff that hasnt been widely disseminated is even worse
hj: Points well made…the “comrades” knew exactly what was in front of those arrested if the evidence was all admitted…
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 8:37 pm
“’m not convince Iti and co. were anything other than immature adults playing cowboys and indians .
A bit silly , who really believes they were going to commit mass murder?”
A bit like those ‘wacky’ Islamic guys who tried to hijack a plane in New York a few years ago? Those crazy kids eh?
Open your eyes and visit the real World for Christs sake! These nutters were training with guns and explosives and were caught on tape planning to blow up dams and slaughter innocent people.
Vote:Iti and his nutjob extremist mates should still be in jail..
March 1st, 2013 at 8:42 pm
In case any of you sympathetic lefties overlooked hj’s post-
“Suspect tells another it would be good to kill Pakeha to get trainees used to killing. Also suggests making their own tracer ammunition and using tungsten projectiles to go through a “cop vest” and through “his f…… mate”.
Vote:Bug in vehicle, recorded April 6, 2007.
“Get someone to assassinate the prime minister, the new one, next year’s one. Just been in office five days, bang … Yeah. John Key … just drop a bomb … Just wait till he visits somewhere and just blow them … They won’t even find you.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, August 17, 2007.
“They want to start blowing shit up. You know, they want to blow up power plants, gas plants, Telecom, petrol f…… places and shit like that.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, June 23, 2007.
“You know like the IRA in England … it’s gonna happen here … I’m ready to die, mate. I’m gonna hurt this country, I’ve had a gutsful … I wanna leave this planet making sure that I’ve done a f…… huge amount of harm to this country.”
Suspect recorded on bugged phone, May 26, 2006.
“It’d have to be a, some sort of f……, sudden f……, because what it’ll do, it’ll come down on the thinking of the people, they’ll think it’s al Qaeda … It’s gotta be sudden and it’s gotta be brutal.”
Other suspect says: “Don’t piss around with cities or doing the bush thing … just go to Parliament.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, August 17, 2007.
“I heard you talking about the napalm shit.”
Response from unknown man: “I’ll make some and bring some next time round, show everyone how to make it.”
Conversation in bugged vehicle, September 16, 2007.
“No, I’m teaming up with the Maoris, we have to … I’ll come and see ya, I can’t f…… take the white man on without the c…s … I’m declaring war on this country.”
Bugged cellphone, May 22, 2007.
“Tuhoe wouldn’t have popular support for a bombing campaign in New Zealand.”
Reply: “It would in Tuhoe though … What about if we did a bombing campaign that blew up Waihopai spy base, power dams, gas facilities, TV stations and radios … It’s a strategy that’s gonna be f…… urban warfare. We are training in the wrong place.”
First speaker: “What’s going to be the strategy?”
Reply: “Strategy will divide, will divide Aotearoa … extreme violence and extreme f…… actions too.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, June 23, 2007.
“I cut down all of my work, right down. Ah, I’m only focusing to go to war.”
Bugged suspect, April 26, 2007.
March 1st, 2013 at 8:46 pm
Longknives: That bugged convo was Kemara…the armourer…he actually says himself “I am prepared to die”, that and a hand grenade is all that is needed for a political assassination…Havent got a hand grenade? The powder out of half a dozen shotgun cartridges, a jam time full of nails, 3 inches of fuse and a det….the last two very easy to obtain if you know the right people…
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 8:52 pm
sorry, trying to do two things at once… I mean a jam TIN full of nails…
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 8:53 pm
David- Scary eh?
Vote:It astounds me that people can’t (or don’t want) to see the danger these nutjobs posed to every man,woman and child in New Zealand. Blowing up dams? Fuck that’s mass murder in somewhere like Clyde or the Waitaki Valley…
March 1st, 2013 at 8:57 pm
What gets up my nose about this story from Catherine Delahunty is that it’s written partly in English and partly in Maori.
I have zero interest in learning one word of Maori, so for people like me, and there must be thousands if not millions, let’s have the story in English or Maori, or both, but not bitsa like this one.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Paul Buchanan says that these people didn’t fit the definition of terrorists, but that is a reflection of their lack of support? Having said that what about groups such as Bader- Mienhoff? Maybe they didn’t quite have the motivated numbers?
Vote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
March 1st, 2013 at 9:19 pm
Let’s be reasonable here. Most politicians waste time and indulge in meaningless piffle. These Greens are demonstrating several times more initiative than most of their supporters. Which is a problem really, given those supporters have one vote, just like the sensible amongst us
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 10:00 pm
God help NZ if the Green Taliban alias the Green Party get anywhere near the halls of power. The country would go backwards at a great rate of knots and any progress that the current regime had made towards settling our balance of payments or progressing the economy on a growth path would be destroyed within months. They are Communists under the guise of an Environmental Policy. Their role has nothing to do with saving the planet but simply destroying Government as we know it at replacing it with a Stalinist Dictatorship.
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 10:25 pm
hj: Is that Paul Buchanan, ex Auckland Uni? When I was doing politics at Uni, a terrorist was defined as someone who was prepared to use violence and terror to achieve a political end…perhaps it’s changed since I graduated 20 years ago…
Vote:March 1st, 2013 at 10:33 pm
My understanding Tame Iti was charged with firearms offences. Forgive me, but are the Greens and similar ilk the type of people demanding gun control, making sure all firearms are owned by people with the proper license and so forth. This just smells of hippocracy.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 12:20 am
Yeah, nasty smelly animals aren’t they.
The Hippos, not the Greens.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:24 am
There is so much material to mine in the Delahunty blog, isn’t there? I find her attitude (love) of all things maori to be so extreme at times that it’s a little scary. She is one very weird lady.
Iti was and is lapping up all the publicity that this long running episode has generated for him. being in prison was a bit of an artistic retreat for him by the sounds of things. watching the Greens and Harawira and Flavell buzzing around him when he was released is an indication that they are all courting him for the publicity value he has acquired. Harawira’s whanau and constituents mostly comprise of jail bait or ex cons, so he wont mind rubbing shoulders with Iti, and the others view a prison sentence as something of a badge of honour.
Iti’s craving of publicity is so obvious, that i wouldn’t dismiss him being seduced by those politicians wanting to lure him into their respective camps either. Nor would I dismiss the opinion of others about the risk posed by the Urewera gang. It only takes one idiot craving eternal notoriety to turn their hand to assassination.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 3:22 pm
David Garrett (3,290) Says:
at 10:25 pm
“…a terrorist was defined as someone who was prepared to use violence and terror to achieve a political end…”
Which is an appropriate description of the police antics on the day they orchestrated their terror raid on Ruatoki.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:43 pm
I’m more worried about most of you nutjobs than Tame. You guys seem one step away from going all Breivik on us.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Piss off dickhead.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:50 pm
What Monique said.
I repeat- (especially for Yoza and Black with a Vengeance)
“Suspect tells another it would be good to kill Pakeha to get trainees used to killing. Also suggests making their own tracer ammunition and using tungsten projectiles to go through a “cop vest” and through “his f…… mate”.
Vote:Bug in vehicle, recorded April 6, 2007.
“Get someone to assassinate the prime minister, the new one, next year’s one. Just been in office five days, bang … Yeah. John Key … just drop a bomb … Just wait till he visits somewhere and just blow them … They won’t even find you.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, August 17, 2007.
“They want to start blowing shit up. You know, they want to blow up power plants, gas plants, Telecom, petrol f…… places and shit like that.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, June 23, 2007.
“You know like the IRA in England … it’s gonna happen here … I’m ready to die, mate. I’m gonna hurt this country, I’ve had a gutsful … I wanna leave this planet making sure that I’ve done a f…… huge amount of harm to this country.”
Suspect recorded on bugged phone, May 26, 2006.
“It’d have to be a, some sort of f……, sudden f……, because what it’ll do, it’ll come down on the thinking of the people, they’ll think it’s al Qaeda … It’s gotta be sudden and it’s gotta be brutal.”
Other suspect says: “Don’t piss around with cities or doing the bush thing … just go to Parliament.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, August 17, 2007.
“I heard you talking about the napalm shit.”
Response from unknown man: “I’ll make some and bring some next time round, show everyone how to make it.”
Conversation in bugged vehicle, September 16, 2007.
“No, I’m teaming up with the Maoris, we have to … I’ll come and see ya, I can’t f…… take the white man on without the c…s … I’m declaring war on this country.”
Bugged cellphone, May 22, 2007.
“Tuhoe wouldn’t have popular support for a bombing campaign in New Zealand.”
Reply: “It would in Tuhoe though … What about if we did a bombing campaign that blew up Waihopai spy base, power dams, gas facilities, TV stations and radios … It’s a strategy that’s gonna be f…… urban warfare. We are training in the wrong place.”
First speaker: “What’s going to be the strategy?”
Reply: “Strategy will divide, will divide Aotearoa … extreme violence and extreme f…… actions too.”
Two suspects in bugged vehicle, June 23, 2007.
“I cut down all of my work, right down. Ah, I’m only focusing to go to war.”
Bugged suspect, April 26, 2007.
March 2nd, 2013 at 8:54 pm
Go fuck yourself Monique.
And I’ll repeat. You nutjobs are way scarier than Tame.
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 8:56 pm
And their tats aren’t as pretty!
Vote:March 2nd, 2013 at 9:36 pm
(Probabably not) Black: If you don’t think Iti and the boys were planning serious mayhem up there then you are very very stupid, or totally dishonest….or perhaps both…
Vote:March 3rd, 2013 at 9:34 am
You seriously think a bunch of bush Maori have the nouse to blow up dams and shit?
You give them too much credit. I bet they could barely find the lighter to spark up the bong let alone a revolution.
You on the other hand Garrett, with your intimate knowledge of false identities and bombmaking are only one frustrated rant away from going postal on us i reckon.
Iti is a radical performance artist who probably can’t take a shit without the SIS getting all up in it.
So how many guns you and your mates got?
Vote: