Why not inform people of whom is right?

March 4th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Stuff reports:

It’s another case of she said, she said. Labour MP was yesterday bemoaning record benefit numbers during National’s reign.

DPB, sickness and invalid beneficiary numbers were at the highest since records began in 1940, she said.

It didn’t take long for Social Development Minister Paula Bennett to respond with her own gloating statement.

The number of people on the DPB, unemployment and invalids benefits all decreased last year, she said. It seems statistics are everyone’s friend.

Rather than just report that both MPs are claiming different things, it would be nice if the actually provided the full data and allowed people to decide for themselves.

I blogged yesterday that the numbers cited by the HoS and Ardern were over a year out of date. That’s not opinion – it is fact.

The excellent Stats Chat site also gives people the full data, in graph form. Sadly the number of people who read that site is far far less than those who read newspapers.

Lindsay Mitchell also has some useful fisking of Ardern’s claims.

Ironically Anthony Robins at The Standard is also unhappy with the article. Not for the misleading claims, but because a Labour MP is suggesting that it would be a good thing to have fewer people on !

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10 Responses to “Why not inform people of whom is right?”

  1. Barnsley Bill (983 comments) says:

    It is actually worse than just not reporting the facts. look at the language used to describe Ardern speaking and then Bennett speaking. More embedded left wing numpties pretending to be impartial journalists.

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  2. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    Yeah unemployment figures are looking really rosy. Where are those 170,000 new jobs that our illustrious leader promised?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10845928

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  3. joe bloggs (126 comments) says:

    Ah statistics – the friend of decent journalists, trained and skilled.

    Hopefully Stuff/Fairfax News might be able to hire a decent journo some day

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  4. RRM (10,026 comments) says:

    DPF:
    Why not inform people of whom is right?

    Umm… because it is stuff.co.nz?

    Most of them struggle with basic spelling and grammar. I have seen articles where whole paragraphs have been copied & pasted in twice, in a row. Often there is computer code gobbledegook at the bottom of an article.

    Stuff.co.nz is not even capable of proofreading an article before it goes online. The kind of research you are asking for just isn’t going to happen.

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  5. greenjacket (487 comments) says:

    “it would be nice if the media actually provided the full data and allowed people to decide for themselves”
    Because that would require the Herald to employ journalists.

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  6. b1gdaddynz (279 comments) says:

    They should just rename themselves stuffinguseless.co.nz or labourpartystuff.co.nz! Whatever happened to balanced reporting and fact checking? These idiots are basically presenting opinion as fact!

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  7. Alan Wilkinson (1,890 comments) says:

    “Rather than just report that both MPs are claiming different things, it would be nice if the media actually provided the full data and allowed people to decide for themselves.”

    Absolutely! Especially since most journalists are innumerate and completely incompetent at the most rudimentary numerical analysis and fact checking.

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  8. iMP (2,422 comments) says:

    Pedantic hour. I think it’s “who” the subjective case, not “whom” the objective case in “Why not inform people of whom is right?”

    Just informing the people of who (or what) is right…

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  9. Alan Wilkinson (1,890 comments) says:

    Being doubly pedantic, that is a b. awful sentence. Scrap it, and say “Why not tell people who is right””

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  10. Nostalgia-NZ (5,281 comments) says:

    ‘whom’ means gloom, what a difficult sentence to struggle with.
    So perhaps just, ‘who is right?’

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