EU myth busting

June 30th, 2013 at 10:42 am by David Farrar

The EU has set up a myth busting page, which is a very good idea. While I think the has some fundamental flaws (lack of democracy, involved in two many areas) it is fair to say they get blamed for some stuff unfairly. So far they have blogged:

  • ¬†EU laws do not prevent churches from taking steps to deal with bat infestations
  • The EU does not “blacklist” beaches: EU laws do not prevent anyone from swimming anywhere, but who wants to swim in poo?
  • Lack of UK action not EU rules responsible for UK Jam manufacturer being in a sticky situation
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15 Responses to “EU myth busting”

  1. peteremcc (344 comments) says:

    “However, what many of the reports failed to explain is that the same EU rules setting down the minimum sugar content for jams, also give member states the option to apply for an exemption to reduce this threshold.”

    Sorry, passing ridiculous regulations, and then saying that country’s parliaments could and should waste time on carving out exceptions to them, means it’s still your fault.

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  2. Harriet (4,989 comments) says:

    “….While I think the EU has some fundamental flaws (lack of democracy, involved in two many areas)…”

    Nigel Farrange put it better in the EU Parliment:

    “The EU President had never been heard of before – one day he was a suburban nobody – and the very next day he was GIVEN a business card saying “President of the European Union.”

    But that’s the Left for you – stomped their way all across Europe and then wondered why they stood on the Anders Breivik mine!

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  3. Ed Snack (1,883 comments) says:

    If that’s an example of the best they can up with, then truly they are an anti-democratic monstrosity !

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  4. Michael (910 comments) says:

    Jam needs to be 60% sugar to be called jam? I thought Jam was half fruit/half sugar (if you ignore the setting agent).

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  5. kowtow (8,524 comments) says:

    The EU has grown from being an economic trade zone in which there was to be free movement of capital and labour into what the unelected and undemocratic elites now envisage , a Federal State.

    It has actually always in intent been about French control of German industry and therefor of the Continent. That has always been a French strategic goal.The irony is that it’s the Germans through hard work and productivity who now really exercise control over the EU.

    One way or the other it is anti democratic and needs to be scaled back to what it was, a free trade zone.

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  6. OneTrack (3,121 comments) says:

    “too many areas” -pedantic I know.

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  7. Redbaiter (9,123 comments) says:

    Yeah well, Europe, a left wing morass and a good example of what shouldn’t be done anywhere else in the world.

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  8. Don the Kiwi (1,763 comments) says:

    That’s right Red, but stupid bloody O’Bumbler is dragging the USA in the same direction. I amazed that some redneck southerner hasn’t put a neat little hole in him.

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  9. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Many Kiwis died freeing Europe from a socialist who wanted a central government, and now they have gone and handed it to them on a plate. Many of the senior people are life long communists and even include a Maoist at its head. I regard anyone who defends the EU as a traitor and they should be dealt with accordingly.

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  10. duggledog (1,559 comments) says:

    Local government – central government – the E.U. – the U.N – why not add a few more layers of bureaucracy?

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  11. LiberalismIsASin (290 comments) says:

    …but who wants to swim in poo?

    With so called gay “marriage” now legal I would say most of NZ’s parliament.

    Couldn’t resist.

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  12. orewa1 (410 comments) says:

    The rationale for the EU depends on who you ask. I remember a very intelligent Dane telling me the argument that convinced him was that it might stop the countries of Europe going to war with each other with depressing frequency. If it has succeeded in that, then it can be chalked up as a success to a point.

    There were two serious flaws in the execution. First, the rules were left loose as the proverbial goose – if one member economy spent up large and exposed itself to financial issues, the rest effectively under-wrote that – a bit like being married! Second, it developed a massive bureaucracy with a vested interest in the financial health of “Europe the entity” but no accountability back to individual citizens – rather like the Auckland super city.

    I hope, but doubt, it can find a way forward.

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  13. Bob R (1,377 comments) says:

    The EU should be limited to economic issues. It’s disgusting that countries have to put up with interference from unelected foreign bureaucrats and judges on issues like who they allow into their countries and whether they are entitled to benefits. The successful countries will slowly be bled dry.

    “Commission lawyers are acting on complaints made by EU nationals living in Britain and there are a number of petitions complaining about discrimination lodged in the European Parliament.

    The case comes despite David Cameron’s recent efforts to stop immigrants “abusing” the NHS and other public services in a practice known as “benefit tourism”.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10088297/Brussels-takes-Britain-to-EU-court-over-immigrant-benefits.html

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  14. SJM (77 comments) says:

    The problem with the EU is that it is a federal state in the making, certainly in the case of the UK, without the consent of the governed. Indeed, when the French rejected the EU constiution, Sarkozy admitted that it was repakaged as the Lisbon treaty to bypass the need for a referendum.

    Its purpose is obvious; in the EU law is superior to a nations laws. Trade policy is no longer within the control of elected governments, so if you are for or against a free trade deal with China or the US, your government has no say. It has a foreign affars department and even has the glimmerings of an army. The President of the EU has said that a full political union is going to happen, as have others such as Merkel.

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  15. SJM (77 comments) says:

    Bob R (1,103) Says:

    June 30th, 2013 at 10:16 pm
    The EU should be limited to economic issues.

    You dont need a supranational body to deal only with economic issues. But then the EU was never about mere ‘economic issues’

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