No exemptions for Maori quota

August 1st, 2013 at 9:00 am by David Farrar

Claire Trevett at NZ Herald reports:

Primary Industries Minister Nathan Guy has signalled he will dump a plan to exempt firms holding Maori quota from a law change which outlaws the use of foreign flagged vessels in New Zealand.

The exemption for Maori quota holders until 2020 was included in a bill to require all fishing vessels to re-flag and register in New Zealand by 2016 after Maori fisheries interests claimed it would be uneconomical to fish the quota if they could not continue to use foreign vessels.

However, Mr Guy has indicated he will pull the Maori quota amendment from the bill.

“It is important for our trading partners to know that we have unequivocally stamped out bad behaviour on our waters. I don’t think the amended bill, as it stands, meets this objective.”

That’s an excellent decision. The priority has to be stamping out the near conditions.

I was quite critical of the select committee changes that would have given some quota holders a further four years before needing NZ flagged ships.

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26 Responses to “No exemptions for Maori quota”

  1. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    Thank goodness for that. Even the Talleys CEO came out firing against it. It is rather sad that the Maori iwi quota vessels largely employ foreign crews rather than using it as an opportunity to support their communities with jobs as well as cash.

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  2. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    Come on Wineoh, you think they care about that? They are more concerned about growing their iwi corporate empires (all tax free of course) for the elite to trough from. Ordinary Maori? Ha! Let them eat boil up.

    It will be interesting to see if this strains relations between National and the Maori Party. And if new Waitangi Tribunal grievances are lodged which have apparently been threatened if this happened.

    “But a 160 year old document gave us the right to commercially plunder NZ’s waters with foreign slave labour!!!!”

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  3. rouppe (971 comments) says:

    But a 160 year old document gave us the right to commercially plunder NZ’s waters with foreign slave labour!!!!

    Just like it allowed them to declare that radio spectrum was “their” taonga. Come on… They hadn’t even discovered the wheel

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  4. kowtow (8,524 comments) says:

    This is all wrong.

    Notional have continually made racist exceptions for the Maoris ,why change things now?

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  5. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    They hadn’t even discovered the wheel

    They, as part of wider Pasifikan culture, had discovered every significant landmass between Asia and the Americas though, and shown Captain Cook where they were too so he could re-discover them all over again.

    Tis a shame they’re not seizing the opportunity to educate the youngers to be commercially self sufficient in fishing.

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  6. Manolo (13,839 comments) says:

    Well done, Mr Guy.

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  7. Manolo (13,839 comments) says:

    Leonardo and Michelangelo were Pasifika, not to mention Galileo, Newton and Einstein too.

    The world is indebted to Pasifika people for their contribution to art, science and all human knowledge (tasting long pig included.)

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  8. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    How unbelievably racist that the same rules will apply to Maori groups as everyone else. Uproar in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1..

    [Kowtow - was your spelling of 'Notional' deliberate or a typo? Because if deliberate, that's actually quite funny :-P ]

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  9. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    …wider Pasifikan culture, had discovered every significant landmass between Asia and the Americas…

    Discovered every what?

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  10. Griff (7,818 comments) says:

    poly black wog with a vengeance.

    The impact of training their youngsters to fish and run a vessel would generate far more social capital than the quick profits and monitory greed shown by their fishery policy. It is a pity that greed motivates the maori leadership more than the plight of their people

    As to navigation maori had forgotten that technology century’s before we turned up. The seafaring skill set totally vanished all that remained was the myth of origin.

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  11. mikemikemikemike (325 comments) says:

    “But a 160 year old document gave us the right to ” – do you have the same contempt for Americans who live their lives by a Constitution that is far older than 160 years?

    I agree with the sentiment that its sad that they are using slave labour to line their coffers rather than employ their own people, that is bloody woeful. If any ‘white’ corporate came out and said that forcing them to pay a minimum wage (or less) to their staff is an attack on their ability to make as much money as possible, they would be deservedly booted in the arse. These low-lives should be no different. It a fucking disgrace they have gotten away with being able to say that at all let alone actually do it.

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  12. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    @ nickb, I didn’t realise iwi groups were tax free.

    Checking up online got me to this:
    http://www.charities.govt.nz/news/information-sheets/iwi-maori-organisations-and-the-charities-act/

    “Charities Services recognises that Māori are adopting new structures to manage their fisheries resources and Treaty settlements. The range of purposes of these organisations may be wider than just being purely charitable.

    However, within these organisations there may still be functioning charities (often as trusts), that could be separately registered under the Charities Act.”

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  13. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    The world is indebted to Pasifika people for their contribution to art, science and all human knowledge

    You’re welcome :)

    You got me worried with your unhealthy fetish for cannibalism though…something you want to share with the group ?

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  14. kowtow (8,524 comments) says:

    Notional?
    Deliberate.Not mine ,plagiarised off a clever wit,sorry can’t remember who.

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  15. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    The impact of training their youngsters to fish and run a vessel would generate far more social capital than the quick profits…shown by their fishery policy

    I concur.

    Though as to the navigational stuff, there’s a cultural remembering happening across the Pacific. And No…just because Tupaia wasn’t Maori per se, doesn’t mean they lost the ability to wayfind.

    Nothing is ever forgotten in Pasifika.

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  16. Ross12 (1,432 comments) says:

    I think there needs to be a little research here. The amount of deep water quota these iwi own or have access to is fairly small –definitely too small to warrant buying a deep water fishing vessel to catch it , even if a number of iwi worked together and combined all the quota. It costs alot to have a boat tied up to the wharf for 6-8 months of the year. That is why they have had foreign JV’s to get a foreign boat down for a few months to catch the fish and then go home. This change in regulation does not force the iwi groups to have the quota caught on NZ owned boats –their foreign vessels just have to flagged in NZ while fishing here and therefore abide by NZ laws. The change could result in more temporary/seasonal jobs on the vessels for NZers if they want them.
    I agree with what Nathan Guy has done. There should be no exceptions.

    Also it should noted that the inshore fishery situation is completely different and NZers catch all that quota.

    WineOh –Peter Talley has always ( from when quota came in ) been a staunch supporter of NZers catching their own fish. I don’t think his company or any company he has been involved with has ever had a foreign JV.

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  17. peterwn (3,277 comments) says:

    Wonder what the Select Committee dynamics were here. The issue having been raised, they probably thought Parliament should decide, so served up an appropriate amendment for Parliamentary consideration. Smart move by the Committee chair. Various factions are trying to paint John’s ministers as not listening, arrogant, etc. One could accuse the Committee Chairman of serving a patsy to the Minister so he could be seen as listening and caring. Good one!

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  18. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Black with a Veangance posted at 9.41:

    … They, as part of wider Pasifikan culture, had discovered every significant landmass between Asia and the America…

    The Polynesians were fearless and first class seafarers, but there’s a vast difference between moving because of population pressure and exploring for scientific and geographic reasons.

    BWAV, you can’t wholeheartedly support slave ship exemptions for Maori-owned ventures, I’m sure. Maori, as intelligent and reasonable people, readily abandoned slavery when they caught up with modernity and signed the Treaty of Waitangi. The exception was in the Chatham Islands, where Taranaki Maori, after their appalling genocide of Moriori, apparently continued holding slaves for up to a few decades.

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  19. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    The Polynesians were fearless and first class seafarers, but there’s a vast difference between moving because of population pressure and exploring for scientific and geographic reasons.

    Who’s to say it was only because of population pressure?

    I believe they voyaged because it’s what they did. It is in our nature to just up and move sticks for sometimes nothing other than shits and giggles.

    It’s like walkabout on the high seas, continuing the Dreaming of the ancestors…

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  20. Colville (2,272 comments) says:

    Very pleased.
    Maybe now we will see Maori business employ Maroi youth to do Maroi fishing?

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  21. flipper (4,084 comments) says:

    And all that Guy may (yet to be established) have done may be about to be undone unless M. Williamson tells the Maori-invoice /cracademic cartel that controls the Geographic Board, to stick their new names for North, South and Stewart Islands up their collective arse.

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  22. Paulus (2,633 comments) says:

    It has been irrefutably determined that Maori DNA is founded in the tribes still in South East Taiwan, from whence some set sail into Polynesia arriving one day at what we know as the Cook Islands (and others probably, say Hawaii) who actually speak a version of Maori today – called Pacific island Maori as a modern language.

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  23. Kleva Kiwi (289 comments) says:

    A win for one rule for everyone!
    A rare win in this PC BS world gone mad

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  24. Jack5 (5,137 comments) says:

    Paulus blogged at 1.19:

    …it has been irrefutably determined that Maori DNA is founded in the tribes still in South East Taiwan..

    The link is from north to south. DNA of the indigenous people of Taiwan and DNA of Polynesians, establish that Polynesians orginated in Taiwan, probably millennia ago.

    Similarly, some in the field argue that, for very many British Isles people (and thus for many of the majority of New Zealanders, now including many or most present-day Maori), there is DNA evidence of origin links to the Basques of Spain-France and the Berbers of North Africa.

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  25. Black with a Vengeance (1,865 comments) says:

    It’s also been irrefutably determined that Pasifikans brought the kumara back to NZ from the Americas.

    Various researches have also shown that the Polynesian came home with more than kumara; that are hints that some brought indigenous American women home too.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/8213421/Kumara-origin-points-to-pan-Pacific-voyage

    loves me the latina :)

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  26. wiseowl (899 comments) says:

    So who was responsible for putting the clause in the proposed legislation anyway?
    Someone from Notional or someone else?

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