Gareth Morgan and North Korea

September 4th, 2013 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

writes:

Having passed successfully through the demilitarised zone Gareth explains to the world’s media why the West’s “beat-up” view of is completely wrong.

Gareth and Jo and their group were free to set their own route through North Korea, witnessing at first hand the lives of ordinary North Koreans.

What they found surprised them – a people who were poor, yes, but wonderfully engaged, well-dressed, fully employed and well informed. In Gareth’s view, what North Korea has achieved economically despite its lack of access to international money has been magnificent.

Magnificent?

Surely this must mark the point at which the media stop taking Mr Morgan as a serious commentator on, well anything.

North Korea used to have the same level of wealth as South Korea. Their economic achievements are not magnificent, but poverty of around US$1,800 per capita. And let us not even talk about the three million who died of starvation in this magnificent economy.

Liberty Scott points out:

So the West needs to “rethink” North Korea now, says Gareth.  It wasn’t just a motorcycle trip. His head has gone soft and he has taken in all the lies and thinks they are awfully nice folk.
 
The thing is, the guides are.  The people you see are nice, as they are privileged members of the elite painstakingly trying to make sure their country is seen in a good light.  
 
You don’t need to try to demonise north Korea.  He claims it isn’t a great big prison camp, but who gets to leave Gareth? Who gets passports?  What about the domestic passport system that ensures no one can leave their village or town unless they belong the elite? 
 
He talks of how everything is tidy and clean and everyone has a job. The Potemkin world he got to see. Escorted the whole way, he claims everything he saw was real, and told was real. 
Scott draws an analogy:
Imagine if he had travelled through Pol Pot’s Cambodia and did this, or Nazi Germany in 1938 talking about how misunderstood the proud German people were and they only want more living space and to be reunified with Germans in Czechoslovakia, and it isn’t a prison camp, the stories about the Jews are lies, demonising them.
 
Well Gareth – you kind of did that.
Matt Nolan writes:
Praising the economic policies of North Korea, the same North Korea that through central planning and mismanagement had starved a large number of its people throughout the 1990s, the same North Korea with an epidemic of meth addiction, the same North Korea that is 163rd on GDP per capita (5.9% of NZ levels), and the same North Korea that openly and massively restricts individual freedoms (disrespecting the heterogeneity of individuals) and constantly threatens war with the South.
And Eric Crampton weighs in:
Even if Morgan was away from his handlers, everyone is a handler. That’s the point of a totalitarian regime. Any disclosure can get you and your family sent to a concentration camp because somebody else will have purchased an indulgence by dobbing you in. And the safest course is making yourself believe the things you have to say.Compare Gareth Morgan’s visit with a couple other recent Western visits. Here’s Neil Woodburn’s travelogue. Here’s what Curtis Melvin did while visiting North Korea, and subsequently. Melvin’s mapping project would let Gareth Morgan check to see which prison camps he missed along his tour.

As I said at the beginning, this just removes what remaining credibility he had.

Hat Tip: Not PC

 

 

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55 Responses to “Gareth Morgan and North Korea”

  1. kowtow (8,186 comments) says:

    Useful idiot.

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  2. iMP (2,356 comments) says:

    North Korea runs concentration camps in its extreme north, near China, on a scale and savagery compared to the Nazis, where, for example: multiple inmates are steamrolled to death; a documented case of one child ripped open for stealing a single grain of rice, so it could be retrieved from her stomach (she broke the rules). Children are routinely required to witness their mother’s executions, which are often torturous.

    In time, this will come out. To date, only one person (a guard) has escaped from this area which houses family and relatives of ‘offenders’ to three generations as a way of ‘purging’ North Korea of any criticism of the Kim family cult.

    This is 1984 on steroids in our time.

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  3. Roflcopter (450 comments) says:

    He should just move there, and everyone would be happy.

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  4. Ed Snack (1,838 comments) says:

    Also worth a read of Theodore Darymple’s brief article on a trip he took to NK some years back. He went into the one well lit department store and observed how it was full of people, but nobody bought anything at all. He stood watching one counter for ten minutes and although there were people standing at the counter, nobody was actually served. After that time the staff suddenly started handing out plastic bowls to people, no money exchanged, and the “shoppers” toddled off carrying their item. A bit later he walked back past that counter, and all the bowls were stacked up by the counter again, having been carefully retrieved.

    It was all show, though I suppose we could be seeing the results of one of the best propaganda campaigns of all time, and NK really IS a minor paradise and we’re all being fooled by the massive right wing (has to be) jewish (aren’t they behind everything) capitalist (ditto) neocon (ditto in spades) conspiracy to make NK look awful.

    I rather lost “faith” in Gareth after attending a couple of his seminars/talks back in the 90’s, they were about two years apart but he told the same bloody jokes at both ! And the “meat” in the second talk was mostly about why it was understandable that he’d been quite wrong two years (or so) ago…and why he was right this time…

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  5. Tautaioleua (296 comments) says:

    Thousands of North Korean refuges pour into the Chinese mainland every year. If everything is so ‘magnificent’ (to quote Gareth Morgan), why on earth are they leaving in droves? (those that can of course).

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  6. queenstfarmer (764 comments) says:

    And to think people once trusted this man to run their Kiwisaver accounts.

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  7. DingleyDell (7 comments) says:

    Passed through the demilitarized zone? Passed through the realms of sanity and decency, more like.

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  8. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    “Famous for being famous” Gareth Morgan demonstrates his bona fides for being just another posuer like Danny Glover or Susan Sarandon.

    Note in his own comments below the post that he bangs on about American picking and choosing between despotic regimes – as if there were no principle in play.

    The Kirkpatrick Doctrine is that, in the interests of pealpolitik, you can have normal relations or even support authoritarian regimes if that support is oriented towards the thwarting of a totalitarian alternative. That’s because authortirian regimes can and do evolve into liberal democracies – see Chile, the Philipines etc. Their authoritarianism is usually limited to politics and usually allows for freedom in property, religion and other civil society institutions.

    What you may not do is support or give succour to totalitarian regimes – those that attempt to control the very thoughts of these subjects – because they allow for no freedom, destroy civil society and therefore have a lower propensity to evolve into liberal democracy. If there’s a less totalitarian state than North Korea out there, then I’ve yet to hear about it.

    There was a good term for vainglorious fools like Garteh Morgan in the Cold War – “Useful Idiots.”

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  9. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan is just a creepy weirdo living in the spectre of his son’s success. Plus he tried to shut down dissent when called out on his horrendously performing kiwisaver scheme.

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  10. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    I know people who’ve been to North Korea in the last 5 years. It’s a poor country according to them, but nowhere near as bad as it’s painted in our media (and certainly improved from the awful conditions of the early 1990s). The guides they had were students, who lost no time in telling them all the scuttlebut about Kim Jong Il (who was still in charge at the time).

    Nevertheless, the Kim regime is entirely odious. The South Koreans weren’t much better until about 30 years ago either.

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  11. Rich Prick (1,666 comments) says:

    North Korea isn’t a country, it’s a cult with borders. And it appears to have a new devotee.

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  12. The only red for me is that of Manchester United (60 comments) says:

    I’ve read quite a few non fiction books on DPRK. What currently happens in North Korea is like that of Nazi Germany in the 1930’s but even worse. While in the 1940/50’s it was a socialist paradise, that all quickly faded.

    Perhaps Gareth choose not to ask about the 3 million who starved to death in the 1990’s because the country could not feed it’s own people. Perhaps he did not see the 1000’s of children forced to beg for food around markets like scavenging dogs. Babies being bayoneted in hospitals because if you are born ill, there is no future for you. The hospitals are good though I have read. What they can do with 1930’s equipment is outstanding and resourceful. Gareth dare not change the radio dial on his hotel radio, because the officals do random checks on the radios in every home. If the dail has been moved (they have a way of telling) then it’s off to the work camps for you. Hope he kept the protrait of Kim Jon Un clean. If it is soiled then off to the work camp you go.

    There is no freedom. Slowly through smuggled in cell phones, dvds and workers from Kasong, people are learning that they have been lied to.

    Gareth has turned into a fool.

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  13. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    What they found surprised them – a people who were poor, yes, but wonderfully engaged, well-dressed, fully employed and well informed.

    That’s pretty much what I’ve heard.

    An American once said to me that the problem with North Korea isn’t so much communism: it’s that they’re Koreans. His view was that North Korea is what Koreans behave like when they think other people aren’t looking. Funny, but not really true.

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  14. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    Tom Jackson is kind of right – there’s some ameliorating aspects about North Korea from the Russell Norman perspective.

    It’s a model for the proposed Lab-Green electricity industry reforms. Also, every hour is “Earth-Hour”:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/10/a-new-high-resolution-look-at-north-korea-where-it-is-earth-hour-every-night/

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  15. noskire (837 comments) says:

    Yup, a magnificent country where if you’re really lucky you get to be executed by an exploding mortar round zeroed in on you. What’s with Gareth – does his walrus-style moustache restrict the blood-flow to his brain or something?

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  16. rouppe (962 comments) says:

    Didn’t Kim Jong Un’s ‘girlfriend’ just get executed?

    Not to mention “An unnamed source told Chosun Ilbo the families of Hyon and the other people in the alleged sex video were taken to a labour camp.”

    Delightful.

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  17. JamesP (76 comments) says:

    Hope that he doesn’t find out they eat cats.

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  18. scrubone (3,091 comments) says:

    Don’t bother playing the clip on his blog. There’s literally just a shot of how many media were at the interview – no actual interview can be heard.

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  19. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,870 comments) says:

    What took you all so long to wake up to this yapping fox terrier with a hare lip?

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  20. unaha-closp (1,157 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan Kiwisaver fund is going to invest that fund in North Korea?

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  21. unaha-closp (1,157 comments) says:

    If we successfully engage with North Koreans on a personal level, their totalitarian regime will shoot them and send their loved ones to die in re-education camps.

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  22. UrbanNeocolonialist (277 comments) says:

    Can’t believe that anyone with a functional brain could defend North Korea. 2 minutes searching on web finds harrowing accounts of North Korean prison camp escapees, people guilty of nothing other than having been born in camp beaten, tortured, raped, starved and worked to death.

    Execution by mortar for drinking during official morning period of “dear leader”.

    North Korean political masters are true monsters

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  23. Mark1 (90 comments) says:

    Tom, anyone who visits North Korea is accompanied at all times by “guides” who only take you to approved places in Pyongyang, only let you photograph approved objects and forbid you from talking to ordinary North Koreans. If the guides are unable to keep you under control they are punished severely by the authorities. There is a whole multitude of links that support this. Now, having regard to such heavy censorship do you really think you are going to get to see what actually goes on or do you accept that your experience is being sanitised every step of the way?

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  24. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    He should take Dotcom, Wimpy Norman, and that socialist Scots a/hole who is the limelight of Tv3’s left-wing B/s and live there.

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  25. Tom Jackson (2,553 comments) says:

    Tom, anyone who visits North Korea is accompanied at all times by “guides” who only take you to approved places in Pyongyang, only let you photograph approved objects and forbid you from talking to ordinary North Koreans.

    In the case of the people I knew, this was a young girl, a tourism student from a university and her senior female colleague (who told them some very amusing gossip about the government). They went pretty much everywhere they wanted to, and did whatever they wanted to. I’ve seen their holiday pictures. These weren’t some communist cadres, but regular uni students who wanted to go to North Korea because it would be something that hardly anyone else had done. I’ve got no reason to disbelieve them: they showed me photographic evidence of their visit and weren’t exactly stupid or naive people.

    The place is a bit of a hole, and the government appalling, but their experience was much the same as Morgan’s. If you want to believe weird internet rants by people with a cause instead of talking to people who’ve actually visited North Korea, please go ahead.

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  26. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    hang on Tom your talking to the experts!

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  27. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    It could just be that Gareth Morgan is playing diplomat here (I don’t think he is so easily fooled). His was the first tour through the DMZ it wouldn’t do to bad mouth North Korea, so this is (potentially) a step to opening it up.

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  28. lolitasbrother (636 comments) says:

    There was a horrifying story in International newspapers the other day where some people from a dance theatre group were machine gunned to death with their relatives made to watch. This included one of Kim’s previous woman friends.
    Apparently they had made a film with sex in it..
    To say that Morgan has lost the remanider of his reputation is too kind. Morgan’s know all megalomania lost him his reputation some time ago.
    It is probably true that tourists are relatively free there, as Mark1 (56) 4:11 pm says, but not the people they are not free.
    There are hundreds of reports.

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  29. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    The DMZ is a 250km buffer between the two Koreas, in which movement is controlled by the United Nations, while Panmunjom is the Joint Security Area where talks between the two Koreas are held.

    In May the trip had been approved by the usually secretive communist north, and by the United States and New Zealand governments, but not by the capitalist south. Now South Korea has also given its approval. “I’m trying to remind the world that this is one people – they’ve had a 4000-year history and this bloody wall’s only been there 60 years,” Dr Morgan said.

    He has a long-held affinity for the region, which has been divided since the Korean War ended in 1953.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/8908879/Its-all-go-for-Morgans-historic-Korea-mission

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  30. Yoza (1,778 comments) says:

    There’s a lot of this, ‘horrifying story about a singing troupe executed by firing squad for making pornographic films’, that seems to be founded on something someone in China said. It is an unverified rumour.

    There is a video of US helicopter pilots who can barely contain their glee while they mercilessly machine gun defenseless civilians in Iraq. Have these murderers paid for their crime? Has the command structure that managed the slaughter been brought to account? No! The person responsible for bringing the video to the public’s attention, however, received a 35 year prison sentence for his trouble.

    The West has too much blood on its hands for its denizens to point with smug hypocrisy at the crimes of others, especially when those crimes have been distorted and amplified by this planet’s most effective propaganda organ.

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  31. Fentex (922 comments) says:

    There is a regular feature at NK NEWS.ORG where a North Korean answers peoples questions about life in the North.

    Jae Young Kim is a woman who fled North Korea and following that link leads to several essays with titles such as “EVEN THE DOGS IN CHINA HAD MORE FOOD THAN US”.

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  32. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    @ Yoza they kidnapped Japanese so they could learn to speak Japanese.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens

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  33. Yoza (1,778 comments) says:

    @ Yoza they kidnapped Japanese so they could learn to speak Japanese.

    Eight men and nine women officially recognised by the Japanese government, whereas, in Afghanistan the US offered a bounty for insurgents and they created a market for random people to be kidnapped and on-sold to the US military. How many of these victims survived the US’s network of torture chambers.

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  34. adze (2,093 comments) says:

    Oops, apparently this thread has gone too long criticising a country that isn’t the USA.

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  35. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    Yoza (653) Says:

    Insurgents aren’t random civilians captured from the sea.

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  36. Yoza (1,778 comments) says:

    Oops, apparently this thread has gone too long criticising a country that isn’t the USA.

    North Korean crimes are generally confined to Korea; Western crimes are global in their distribution. The slaughter carried out by the US in any number of Asian countries since the end of the Korean war makes the North Koreans look like boy-scouts by comparison.

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  37. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    North Korean crimes are generally confined to Korea.
    …….
    they have too small an economy to do much outside of Korea (although they were involved in spreading nuclear weapons and drug smuggling. Note the people aren’t allowed out.

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  38. adze (2,093 comments) says:

    “North Korean crimes are generally confined to Korea; Western crimes are global in their distribution. ”

    And the number of times that “Western crimes” have been criticised on this blog and almost every other political blog is legion. So it seems unconvincing to appeal to balance and perspective on what is a relatively novel topic.

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  39. Miritu (29 comments) says:

    Comparing North Korean crimes to Western ‘crimes’ is like comparing Nazi Germany to Britain and the Allies. The scale of oppression in NK dwarfs anything in the West

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  40. Yoza (1,778 comments) says:

    And the number of times that “Western crimes” have been criticised on this blog and almost every other political blog is legion.

    On this blog??

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  41. KevinH (1,205 comments) says:

    Gareth Morgan’s praise and positive comments about North Korea are a propagandists dream and demonstrates a certain amount of political naivety on Gareth’s behalf in allowing himself to be used so easily.
    Gareth may think that his positivity is diplomatic and could contribute to North Korea opening up to the west more as Vietnam has, however North Korea has a formidable army and nukes and has threatened recently to use them if threatened, therefore reunification is a pipe dream at this time and only a protracted war involving the west would bring about a regime change.

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  42. adze (2,093 comments) says:

    “On this blog??”

    Certainly; in the comments. Considering DPF’s political views, some of the most vocal people here are those critical of the west, the right, or both. Haven’t you noticed? :)

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  43. Richard Hurst (834 comments) says:

    I bet there were no cats either- they’ve eaten them all!

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  44. hj (6,855 comments) says:

    I think we’re going to have to let Gareth Morgan speak for himself when there is a bit of time and distance.

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  45. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,743 comments) says:

    Dennis Rodman back in the DPRK for a second visit. Now there is an international diplomat.

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  46. scrubone (3,091 comments) says:

    Let’s break this down:

    a people who were poor, yes,

    Ok, so we’ve established that.

    but wonderfully engaged,

    What does that even mean?

    well-dressed,

    Even if he picked his own route, there’s no way they let him do it on the day. So there’d be plenty of time to make sure no one was dressed like slobs for the foreign fool.

    fully employed

    Another meaningless phrase – employed doing that? Breaking stones?

    and well informed.

    I’m sure the translators relayed *exactly* what the people they met actually said. /sarc

    In Gareth’s view, what North Korea has achieved economically despite its lack of access to international money has been magnificent.

    Poor, but “magnificent economic achievements”. Sure.

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  47. scrubone (3,091 comments) says:

    OTOH, it was interesting talking to some friends who’d been to China.

    The Chinese don’t consider that they live in a police state. If you don’t attract the attention of the government, why would you? It’s only the few who cross the government who find out just how ruthless these places can be.

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  48. Jim (396 comments) says:

    “As I said at the beginning, this just removes what remaining credibility he had.”

    Absolutely. With that level of gullibility I’m surprised he hasn’t lost everything to Nigerian scammers already.

    Hmmm… maybe Gareth believed that email he received from the son of THE LATE GENERAL JONAS SAVIMBI, THE REBEL LEADER WHO CONTROLLED THE GOLD AND THE DIAMOND REGIONS OF ANGOLA FOR 27 YEARS SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL INTERFERENCE.

    After transferring a small commission he was told the BOX CONTAINING 200KG OF 22 KARRAT ALLUVIA GOLD is hidden in the mountains of North Korea.

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  49. Mark1 (90 comments) says:

    Tom, I concede I have never been there (and certainly have no desire to). But your friends’ experiences in North Korea goes against every single travel article I have read about the place with regard to the tourist’s freedom of movement so I can only say that your friends have achieved something no one else has. Kudos to them.

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  50. flipper (3,950 comments) says:

    North Korea is just like Syria, in that they are both drug cartel or mafia-like family businesses. They are just bigger and more powerful than other criminal gangs.

    Morgan is nuts…but then, to give him a smidgeon of doubt, he might want to exit NK.

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  51. bhudson (4,736 comments) says:

    ^^ As I recall, he was already out of country before his first laudatory post hit the web.

    Morgan has ‘spoken’ on the Internet and removed all doubt!

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  52. flipper (3,950 comments) says:

    bhudson (4,198) Says:
    September 5th, 2013 at 11:52 am
    ^^ As I recall, he was already out of country before his first laudatory post hit the web.

    Morgan has ‘spoken’ on the Internet and removed all doubt
    ****
    Tks…
    just shows how much notice I take of Morgan.

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  53. Lance (2,628 comments) says:

    Observe from 7:30 to 8:35 to sum up Nth Korea and Gareth

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  54. libertyscott (359 comments) says:

    ty for the link David. He has had the temerity to call me “ignorant” on his own blog.

    I am more than willing to take him on.

    Oh and I’ve been there. I didn’t blog about it, to protect some people there. It’s an experience that brings much emotion, for there are more than a few people there who are anxious to reach out, to learn and who know they live under so many lies and so much control.

    There is plenty of engagement, but those you can usefully engage with don’t respect you if you demonstrate that you swallow the unbelievable monolith of fiction that has been create there. He isn’t the KFA or the NZ-DPRK Friendship Society (which has long been led by a fawning apologist), but he isn’t far short.

    It’s so stupid that it astounds me. I am astonished any sane individual can visit and not find the entire atmosphere a mental strain, emotionally draining and terrifyingly surreal, and not feel unbridled sympathy and anger that so many people are living in a prison state forced to fawn over a family, in a compulsory Stockholm syndrome of grand proportions.

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  55. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,743 comments) says:

    I think Gareth Morgan fits the Lord Darlington type from “The Remains of the Day”.

    He thinks himself a bit a of New Zealand aristocrat engaging in a spot of amateur diplomacy. History reflects that it didn’t end well for those UK aristocrats who well and truely backed the wrong horse. It won’t end well for Gareth Morgan either.

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