So what is DC proposing?

September 8th, 2013 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

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This is from David Cunliffe’s Facebook page. What is missing is exactly what DC is proposing to change this. I can only guess it is one or more of the following:

  • Ban taxi drivers from working more than 8 hours a day
  • Reduce the number of allowed in NZ, so that each driver gets more jobs
  • Bring in minimum pricing for taxis, trebling the per km rate or per hour rate so they earn a living wage
  • Nationalise the entire taxi fleet, and put all taxi drivers on a salary of at least $18.40 an hour

Surely it is one of the above. You wouldn’t campaign on how awful it is taxi drivers work for $5 an hour 14 hours a day, and not have any solutions to it?

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40 Responses to “So what is DC proposing?”

  1. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    who would really know what’s going through Davids head at the moment .. he is aiming for party leader and ultimately PM and I suggest he will say anything

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  2. Graeme Edgeler (2,972 comments) says:

    Bring in minimum pricing for taxis, trebling the per km rate or per hour rate so they earn a living wage

    This one wouldn’t work unless you also required people to take taxis.

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  3. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    This is so dishonest. Taxi drivers are contractors, you have good days and bad days., good hours and bad hours like any contractor. I’ve been a contractor some hours you earn nothing, $5 would be gold. Silent T is a tool shame these three are getting so much oxxygen in the media

    If you don’t get a fare for 5 hours is labour going to give you a top up?

    And if you live in Auckland you’ll see that any recently arrived camel jockey has got hold of a car that goes sometimes and stenciled TAXI on the door. I imagine these gypsy cabs pay the correct amount tax on dollars earned, it can’t all be contra when they take the girls home from the whore houses.

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  4. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    This one wouldn’t work unless you also required people to take taxis.

    They’ve forced me to belong to a union before Graeme so making catching cabs compulsory would be a piece of piss I would imagine. The Ministry of Forced Taxi Trips will come into being employing many .

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  5. alwyn (439 comments) says:

    Taxi driving has never been a particularly profitable occupation since Jonathon Hunt left Parliament.
    Who but our Jonathon could have run up taxi bills of $30,000/year, even though his Wellington Living quarters was actually in the Parliamentary complex and he didn’t even need a taxi to get to work.

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  6. Johnboy (17,051 comments) says:

    Perhaps DC could propose that for a small extra fee fares could shag their partners in the back of the cab.

    Only if they were same sex of course.

    That would give him a leg up against Robertson! :)

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  7. Black with a Vengeance (1,868 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  8. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Who but our Jonathon could have run up taxi bills of $30,000/year,

    It was the fare from Titirangi to the airport in Auckland and return that ran up the bill

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  9. Colville (2,318 comments) says:

    Taxis are for peasants…Helicopters are where its at.

    Yeah the fat German crim sure loves his chopper.

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  10. BeeJay (72 comments) says:

    I read the comments on DC’s Facebook page and had to wonder – if those commenting are an indication of the quality of his support, boy have Labour got a bigger problem than I suspected. You could have replaced all of the comments posted with a single “baaaaaa”! At least the Green Australian barks like the dog that he is!

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  11. noskire (835 comments) says:

    Just a blatant pearl-necklace to the NZTF.

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  12. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    The logic of a loser who has spent a lifetime being kept in a lavish style by taxpayers . . . his mate Palmer deregulated taxis and stuffed the industry, along with liquor and milk. These left-wing a/holes stuff up industry, then a couple of decades later try and fix it with ridiculous legislation and tariffs. Long may these three deadbeats languish in opposition, not that they are noticed nowadays, their socialist mates in media see wimpy Norman as the new the poster boy.

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  13. Ross Miller (1,618 comments) says:

    There I was at the Auckland Domestic Terminal the other day when that nice Mr Cunliffe arrived in a (wait for it) ‘Corporate Cab’ – you know, those nice big things that resemble a Crown car driven by the owner/operator and charging fares above the norm for other companies.

    So, clearly it’s a case of listen to what I say rather than look to what I do ….. and just how many ways are there to spell HYPOCRITE?

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  14. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    Ross: Hypocrite can be spelled “Labourite”!

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  15. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    Victoria University academic Philip Morrison has written an interesting thesis on the impacts of deregulating the taxi industry:

    http://www.envplan.com/abstract.cgi?id=a290913

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  16. Ian McK (237 comments) says:

    What the hell would a taxpayer-funded academic know about running any business, other than leeching? They come under the same classification as the three losers running for position “Tosser of the Year” in Labour.

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  17. Harriet (5,200 comments) says:

    If sitting in a car for 12hrs doing next to nothing is worth $18hr, then this leaves the door wide open for National to reduce the wages of most public servants who sit in desk chairs to $18hr. :cool:

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  18. MT_Tinman (3,317 comments) says:

    DPF, you forgot

    >> Top up taxi drivers’ pay to equate to $18.40 per hour (66 hours per week) with tax money taken off rich pricks.

    :-) I might vote for Cunners after all :-)

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  19. alwyn (439 comments) says:

    PEB at 2.13pm.
    Yes I was aware that that was where the money was going. He lived a long away from the airport and didn’t give a damn because he had unlimited taxi service. Did you know that since he became a commoner, and lost the book of taxi chits he moved into a flat in central Aucland. The wilds of his farmlet weren’t quite so great when he had to pay for his own travel.

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  20. UpandComer (537 comments) says:

    Actually, 1 thing Cunliffe could do is change some of the laws around our recognition of overseas qualifications. I’ve met a large number of taxi drivers who were, say, a medical doctor in Lebanon during the Israeli invasion, or an engineer who was responsible for maintaining a Russian ship-yard on the Black sea – and they drive taxis because NZ doesn’t recognise their qualifications. We could at least give them a reduced time-scale in which to get the NZ equivalent. But no all you get from the left is their only answer to everything – tax everyone else more, or print money, to give people what some random individual in the wellington boondocks thinks is a ‘living wage’. Maybe if they had run the economy like adults instead of toddlers during the 2001-2008 boom, after tax wages would have increased, instead of massively decreasing, and we wouldn’t need the stupid rhetoric we hear today.

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  21. Johnboy (17,051 comments) says:

    Quite right UpandComer. Of course the the Lawyers, Accountants, Doctors like to preserve their patch and God knows the last thing we need is a load of incompetents from overseas trying to horn in on our own incompetents patch…. :)

    However it does not seem to me to be rocket science that we cannot take folk who have skill gained overseas and supervise them to see if they are up to our standards.

    Whats the problem?

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  22. Keeping Stock (9,380 comments) says:

    @ Tinman – Cunliffe may be the saviour of your industry. The only problem will be that a cab ride from the airport to the Chch CBD will cost $250 each way :D

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  23. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    In case you hadn’t noticed taxi drivers these days are often foreigners (= increase labour supply = decrease in wages).
    On the other hand National Realestate support wins from immigration as it increases capital gains for it’s rent-seeking supporters.
    I’m not meaning to bash the migrants but let’s realise what is really going on.

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  24. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    >Surely it is one of the above.

    Quadruple taxi fares. No one takes taxis. The industry collapses with unemployment for every taxi driver. People take Len Brown’s underground trains or the bus everywhere. Labour are pleased to have made taxi drivers unemployed, because they’ve ensured that if they had a job they would earning more than the minimum wage in London and that is a triumph for the labour movement. The Greens are pleased too because taxis take people where they want to go according to a timetable of their choosing, whereas people should just go where the train will take them.

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  25. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    hj>In case you hadn’t noticed taxi drivers these days are often foreigners

    What is your point? Are you saying that under no circumstances should taxi drivers be allowed to own their own home… but be forced to pay rent to a Real New Zealander?

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  26. Fisiani (1,052 comments) says:

    DC is promising to spend your money and borrow from overseas to buy trade union votes.
    Imagine if Labour were in government and this selection process was taking place. Unions would choose the PM and dictate government policies.
    His poster re taxi drivers shows the muddled thinking typical of the megalomaniac that is David Cunliffe.

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  27. burt (7,425 comments) says:

    Graeme

    Bring in minimum pricing for taxis, trebling the per km rate or per hour rate so they earn a living wage

    This one wouldn’t work unless you also required people to take taxis.

    Exactly, but hey – you’re not exactly the labour voter demographic he is appealing to…

    See, you might think it through and envisage 75% unemployment in taxi drivers under the Labour initiative. But that’s a win for Labour as they just recruited a whole bunch more loyal voters.

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  28. Pongo (374 comments) says:

    NZ taxis are already the most expensive in the world, we went from Beverly Hills to LAX for NZ$45 which took an hour then back in Christchurch it cost us NZ65 to take a 15 minute ride home in a cab that was 15 years older. The LA driver was a delight, escaped Somalia and spent 3 years in a refugee camp in Kenya before the yanks let him in to zoom around in his Prius. OurKiwi was a non speaking Indian who couldn’t drive properly in their 20 year old Toyota with buggared suspension who didn’t know the way.
    We steer clear of taxis at home because of their outrageous price but dont bat an eyelid when overseas as theybare good value, imagine what Cunners surcharge would do the industry.

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  29. HC (154 comments) says:

    Well, could it perhaps be, it is none of the above, that is the short list that David Farrar suggested?

    Maybe Cunliffe’s comments must be seen in the wider context of policy proposals he has been making? Perhaps he does want to create an economy that will also create more employment in better jobs, that pay a living wage for normal hours, like about 8 hours a day? That would mean fewer have to sit in taxis most the day, desperately hoping for the odd customer to come and book a ride.

    I honestly think that is the greater idea behind what Cunliffe presents as a thought provoking slogan.

    But we cannot have that, can we? Real jobs for real people, that pay real wages that people can live off, that is too much to ask. At least this deserves further investigation and discussion, rather than swift dismissal and ridicule.

    Many other politicians with potential were laughed about in their earlier years, even some scientist, like Einstein were at best “mediocre” at school.

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  30. gump (1,683 comments) says:

    The taxi drivers who earn $5 an hour are all owner operators.

    That’s the reason why minimum wage laws don’t apply to them.

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  31. burt (7,425 comments) says:

    gump

    Then they would be better off on welfare voting for more welfare rather than working long hours voting for lower taxation.

    Shucks…. Lets all be rich !

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  32. burt (7,425 comments) says:

    HC

    Einstein was average in his early days but he developed.. He didn’t repeat the same old dross that worked for his grandfathers generation as the great way forward leap backward to union control of government, state owned everything with high taxes and high government spending.

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  33. wat dabney (3,840 comments) says:

    On the other hand National Realestate support wins from immigration as it increases capital gains for it’s rent-seeking supporters.

    As has been pointed out to you before, it is by definition those who seek a government-enforced restraint who are rent-seekers.

    In other words, it is you that is advocating the rent-seeking here.

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  34. siobhanbelling (5 comments) says:

    Banning taxi drivers for working more than 8 hours a day surely should be a necessity for their passengers safety as well as the drivers.

    And banning the number of taxi’s in New Zealand would likely increase the price of a taxi and therefore fewer people would use them, leading to the same problem of not enough work per driver.

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  35. gump (1,683 comments) says:

    @burt

    “Then they would be better off on welfare voting for more welfare rather than working long hours voting for lower taxation.”

    ————————-

    Not really. If you are prepared to work more than 41 hours per week, then $5 per hour would actually result in you getting more than the maximum solo unemployment benefit (which is $206.21 net per week).

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  36. Left Right and Centre (3,009 comments) says:

    Labore aren’t interested in your brain, they want votes. Their demographic is the braindead variety who do not understand the flawed propaganda they spew out. Perception is everything. Labore – looking after the little people. That’s the message. The closest some Labore voters get to an understanding of economics is having an appliance repossessed.

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  37. siobhanbelling (5 comments) says:

    @Left Right and Centre

    Regardless of who’s side I support I would have to agree with you, that majority of voters are easily schmoozed and fooled by such “propaganda” by promising these real-wage dreams. It is a statistical fact that uninterested voters are easily impressed by marketing hype and having their ears tickled to make them feel they are making the “right choice” by siding with parties who make such picture perfect promises regardless of whether they can realistically achieve these goals.

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  38. lolitasbrother (774 comments) says:

    September 9th, 2013 at 1:44 am

    Sweet Jesus this guy Cunliiffe is a moron and so totally detached from reality.
    Please god, please let him win.
    I caught a taxi to the airport Christchurch only ten minutes away, the guy said thats $NZ 50.
    I said “well fuck me, I get my friend to drive next time give him $40 ”
    I arrived at Bangkok I got in a taxi , this dude took me 45 or 50 minutes across this huge landscape to my wife,
    he said its 500 baht.
    Thats $20 NZ for a long way.a very long way
    I gave him 1000 baht $NZ40, he said to my wife in Thai,
    “you please thank the good Westerner farang for the extra gift to my family.
    and Well fuck you till you die* Cunliiffe.
    fuck you Labour/ Green you will not rule my country, forget about it.
    We will have a John Key government for another two terms

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  39. Elaycee (4,425 comments) says:

    The really scary part of this Labour selection process, is that its now degenerated into a case of political one-upmanship. Whenever someone comes up with a daft announcement, its trumped by an even more ridiculous brain fart from another wannabe.

    And despite the disproportionate coverage provided by the left wing MSM, this leadership farce has become an increasingly desperate lolly scramble courtesy of the best Labour can offer: Fat, Slack and Olly.

    NZ needs a credible opposition. But I can’t see this trio of pretenders delivering it. 8O

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  40. hj (7,165 comments) says:

    davidp (2,905) Says:
    September 8th, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    What is your point? Are you saying that under no circumstances should taxi drivers be allowed to own their own home… but be forced to pay rent to a Real New Zealander?
    …………..
    my point is that we have had very liberal immigration policies driving up house prices and down wages. As the Savings Working Group pointed out immigration (may have) made us worse off because we are forever building infrastructure whereas business investment is starved so productivity per worker doesn’t increase.

    Savings Working Group
    January 2011
    “The big adverse gap in productivity between New Zealand and other countries opened up from the 1970s to the early 1990s. The policy choice that increased immigration – given the number of employers increasingly unable to pay First-World wages to the existing population and all the capital requirements that increasing populations involve – looks likely to have worked almost directly against the adjustment New Zealand needed to make and it might have been better off with a lower rate of net immigration. This adjustment would have involved a lower real interest rate (and cost of capital) and a lower real exchange rate, meaning a more favourable environment for raising the low level of productive capital per worker and labour productivity. The low level of capital per worker is a striking symptom of New Zealand’s economic challenge.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/reviews-consultation/savingsworkinggroup/pdfs/swg-report-jan11.pdf

    As for Wat Dabney he doesn’t believe in borders just property rights and contracts externalities are for the birds.

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