Canada claiming a Kiwi

October 17th, 2013 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

has claimed as its own after she won the Man Booker prize yesterday.

Canadian media, which has reported widely on her success, noted Catton was born in Ontario.

The National Post described her as “the first Canadian author to win one of the world’s foremost literary awards in over a decade”. The paper’s review of the novel described it as stylistically “as solid as the brick it physically resembles”.

The Globe and Mail went with the more diplomatic “Canadian-born author”, and said: “Despite its length, there isn’t a sentence that feels weak or lazy, and by all objective criteria, The Luminaries is a remarkable accomplishment.”

Canadian-born is more correct than Canadian.

But we can’t take the moral high ground here. New Zealanders lead the world in claiming someone is a Kiwi because they may have been born here, lived here for a couple of years or even once made a fleeting visit and said something nice about us.

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38 Responses to “Canada claiming a Kiwi”

  1. Kimble (4,393 comments) says:

    But we can’t take the moral high ground here. New Zealanders lead the world in claiming someone is a Kiwi because they may have been born here, lived here for a couple of years or even once made a fleeting visit and said something nice about us.

    Oh yeah?

    Give us 12 examples of us EVER doing that!

    Make that 20.

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  2. slightlyrighty (2,499 comments) says:

    How very Australian of them!!

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  3. wreck1080 (3,785 comments) says:

    Small country syndrome I think.

    Given our unimportant place in the world we strive for scraps of recognition.

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  4. Jack5 (4,781 comments) says:

    Talk about self-focused islanders!

    The Canucks can have her, as long as they take Keri Hulme and the rest of the PC, feminist scribblers as well.

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  5. Ryan Sproull (7,056 comments) says:

    Oh yeah?

    Give us 12 examples of us EVER doing that!

    Make that 20.

    Hahaha!

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  6. edhunter (510 comments) says:

    Anna Paquin is another the Canadians claim, Canadian dad Kiwi mum, born there. Wiki states she is a Canadian-born New Zealand film, television and theatre actress.
    There’s also a difference between ethnicity & nationality hence why so many NZ born Samoans still consider themselves Samoan.
    Me…I’ve just moved to Australia & will probably attempt to get citizenship when the time comes, I’ve decided that I’ll be a kiwi at least until I’ve lived here longer than I lived in NZ since that will put me into my 80′s it’s not something I’m losing sleep over.

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  7. Yogibear (341 comments) says:

    Kimble – too easy

    1: Phar Lap – Born in NZ but thats about it.
    2: Ben Stokes – Just selected to play for England for Cricket, but born in NZ. Media harping on about how NZ he is, even though he hasn’t lived here since primary school days.
    3: Shania Twain is apparently now a Kiwi – have seen at least one trashy woman’s mag (only option in a Dr’s Waiting room) that harped on about her “Kiwi roots”
    4: The media just recently has talked up Tony Abbot’s kiwiness by virtue of his wife.
    5: Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson – Lived in Auckland briefly – buts he’s all ours.
    6: I’m sure the venerable Stephen Jones of the Times could give you an excellent lecture on the number of “foreigners” in the All Blacks – he could probably name 20 there alone in the last 15 years (just don’t mention the level of Johnny Foreigner in English teams)
    7: Russell Crowe (calls himself an Aussie and virtually never a kind word to say about his time in NZ) – still a Kiwi mate.
    8: Irene Van Dyk – Kiwi as bro. (when was the last time she was referred to by the media as anything other than “South African born”)
    9: Clarrie Grimmett – short of Warne, the greatest spin bowler of all time (Murali discounted as he doesn’t bowl). To the cricket world, he’s Australian, except for NZers.
    10: Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen – Can take the man out of Dannevirke……………….

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  8. Yogibear (341 comments) says:

    Isn’t Robbie Williams’ tattoo kiwi?

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  9. dog_eat_dog (757 comments) says:

    Scott Dixon identifies as a Kiwi but was born in Australia

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  10. RRM (9,600 comments) says:

    11. Nancy Wake.

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  11. alloytoo (449 comments) says:

    Yogibear

    Somehow you omitted Quaid Cooper…….

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  12. Yogibear (341 comments) says:

    allytoo

    Deliberate – I’m not sure even Quaid Cooper knows who, or what, he is.

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  13. peterwn (3,192 comments) says:

    However the Globe and Mail (Toronto) has run a story called:
    “Nobel, Man Booker wins reveal Canada’s confidence as a literary nation”
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/books-and-media/nobel-man-booker-wins-reveal-canadas-confidence-as-a-literary-nation/article14884045/

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  14. Harriet (4,614 comments) says:

    “…..New Zealanders lead the world in claiming someone is a Kiwi because they may have……..even once made a fleeting visit and said something nice about us…..”

    You mean like Hemingway’s fleeting visit…..and announcing afterwards…………. “communist” ? :cool:

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  15. Sidey (248 comments) says:

    When Russell Crowe isn’t being a knob, the Aussies call him one of theirs. When he’s being a knob, he’s usually referred to here as “NZ Born actor Russell Crowe.”

    Heard Flight of the Conchords referred to as an Australian act the other day, they were taking the piss though.

    They know they do it and they know we know they do it. Which is why they do it.

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  16. Yogibear (341 comments) says:

    To be blunt – the only thing more facile and annoying than claiming someone as your own, is the righteous indignation when someone else does it.

    In terms of true NZer, start at Willie Apiata and work your way back from there.

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  17. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    Add Courtney Love.

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  18. jawnbc (55 comments) says:

    As a Canadian living in NZ I am a bit embarassed about this. Yes she’s Canadian born and lived there early in her life. But citizenship and identity are often different things.

    Besides, our girl Alice’s Nobel totally kicks Booker butt. It’s been a good literary week for both wee countries.

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  19. PaulD (97 comments) says:

    The Aussies may call Russell Crowe one of theirs but they won’t give him citizenship. Edhunter @11.31am is probably similarly screwed.

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  20. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    “the only thing more facile and annoying than claiming someone as your own, is the righteous indignation when someone else does it..”

    facile as in this like this?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10841861

    I wonder if those dirty ockers will try and claim our Lorde? Poor Kimbra … no one is interested in claiming her anymore now that Lorde is all the rage!

    or how about this?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10775264

    I heard on the news the other day that our Stanley had only just recently managed to acquire ocker citizenship, which seems a little odd given that he was apparently born there. You’d think if Oz wanted to steal or our celebrities they’d make it a little easier for them to become citizens?

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  21. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Sir John Carew Eccles!!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=155042

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  22. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Buzzy Bee, OMG!!!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=9661

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  23. Longknives (4,624 comments) says:

    ” New Zealanders lead the world in claiming someone is a Kiwi because they may have been born here, lived here for a couple of years or even once made a fleeting visit and said something nice about us.”

    Well said! It does my head in when I hear people (who wouldn’t know a horses hoof from its asshole) bleating on about how the Aussies ‘stole’ Phar Lap from us.
    He did all his racing in Australia- was owned, trained and ridden by Australians, won Australian races, is their icon and is their mighty champion.
    To somehow call him a ‘New Zealander’ is fucking cringeworthy..

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  24. mikenmild (11,214 comments) says:

    I make an exception for Phar Lap as breeding is crucial for racehorses. So NZ-bred Phar Lap is fine by me and we’re lucky to have his skeleton to admire at Te Papa.

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  25. Jack5 (4,781 comments) says:

    jawnbc posted at 12.26:

    It’s been a good literary week for both wee countries.

    You’re being ironic, given Canada is the world’s second largest country.

    But like NZ, Canada’s been held back by political correctness, multiculturism, the dominant language, and idigenous people’s “rights”. In that sense perhaps we are both “wee”.

    If you want to hear Catton reading from her tome in a Kiwi accent:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booker-prize/10383734/Booker-prize-winner-reads-from-book.html

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  26. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Phar Lap is defintely a Kiwi icon!!

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  27. Longknives (4,624 comments) says:

    Try again Mikey- Phar Lap’s sire Night Raid was English….

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  28. Jack5 (4,781 comments) says:

    In my 1.23 post I didn’t mean to say the dominant language (English) has held back Canada and NZ.

    I meant to say resentment about English being the dominant language has held them back.

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  29. Grant Michael McKenna (1,156 comments) says:

    “New Zealanders lead the world in claiming someone is a Kiwi because they may have been born here, lived here for a couple of years or even once made a fleeting visit and said something nice about us.”

    Well, yes. After all, what other nation would have an interest in claiming that someone is a Kiwi?

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  30. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Kiwi Nobel prize winner Maurice Wilkins, born in Pongaroa, but left NZ at age 6.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Wilkins

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  31. BigFish (132 comments) says:

    She did learn to write there. Age 5 or something. :D

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  32. Liberal Minded Kiwi (1,568 comments) says:

    Don’t forget Phillip Schofield. Kiwis love to claim him!

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  33. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    This poor bloke

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O'Brien

    Apparently he wasn’t allowed into the country, even though there is a statue of him in Hamilton!!

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  34. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    New Zealand’s very own Roger Donaldson.

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  35. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Fay Weldon

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  36. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Kiwi boot polish.

    Who knew it was invented in Oz?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_(shoe_polish)

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  37. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    Now is the hour

    who knew it was originally an Oz tune!!?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_Is_the_Hour

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  38. Dean Papa (771 comments) says:

    God’s Own Country

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God's_Own_Country

    Apparently Thomas Bracken borrowed the phrase for his famous poem about New Zealand, as it was already widely in use at the time, especially in America. Even wide early use in Aus, as this amusing piece of writing would indicate

    http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/61385036

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