(1) Do you care that NZ Post will drop from six to three days delivery service in the big smokes?
I don’t mind. In fact – on the upside – it’s three days less to check the letterbox and three days that a bill will not arrive on.
NB: What was the business case for going from five to six days? Um… ??
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(2) It’s a perfect morning in Wellington – this is shaping up to be a ripper!! I’ve got five kms left to run for Saturday and in this champagne weather…. it will be a pleasant breeze figuratively and literally.
Democracy 2.0: The Only Digital-First Political Party
A group of software technologists in Buenos Aires, Argentina are playing on the edge of the future of democracy and it may have real implications for countries like the USA and Canada.
The Net Party will run their first field of candidates for the legislature in the city and to run as a candidate for the party you must commit that you will vote, each and every time, based on the will of the people as expressed via the internet. Depending on your viewpoint this could be the beginning of mob rule or an emerging form of direct democracy that may invigorate if not supplant the current system.
The Net Party or Partido de la Red will run candidates for the 64-member body (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buenos_Aires_City_Legislature) attempting to get enough votes to land a few seats (seats are won through proportional voting so no one candidate must win for the party to hold seats).
Once elected, they will consult with the people on each important issue both educating the electorate and getting their viewpoint. Any citizen can engage, not just those who are members of the party and regardless of who they voted for. That is, the Net Party will be responsible to represent the views of all the citizens.
Sounds more like the living habits a trust fund baby than an impoverished beneficiary crippled by the ravages of Ruthanasia, colonisation and neoliberals.
But if we just give them more, all the ills of the world will be saved.
Let’s start by overturning the Court of Appeal decision in Child Poverty Action Group v AG, so that beneficiaries are eligible to the in work tax credit. That of course seems only logical, and will reduce the gross unfairness inherent in the situation where a low-paid full time worker earns more than a beneficiary.
Then lets cap rent rises like Grant Robertson is advocating.
Then lets impose costs on landlords by making them meet arbitrarily defined “minimum requirements”.
Then lets increase the top tax rate to punish the people funding your lifestyles.
Then lets exempt GST on fresh fruit and vegetables, to save the average beneficiary around $3 per week whilst imposing crushing costs on businesses (maybe if we exempted GST on alcohol and tobacco it might help their living costs more?).
duggledog: It is also why we have raised thousands of loser kids over 1 1/2 generations just looking for some trouble to get into (this woman’s children may not fall into that category)
The evidence is overwhelming that kids do best in two parent families where Mum and Dad live in a relationship in the nature of marriage…it is the biggest failure of my life that I just could not make that work with my kids’ mother….But I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts they (my kids) will never be found hanging around town looking for trouble…
Are you giving our specialist captain grief Nookin?
You are of course right though, I don’t see who could be booted from the current test team if Ryder came back. It would seem logical that it would be Corey Anderson, but then we lose a promising young allrounder who has performed well as well as a first or second change seam option.
I am of course just another armchair expert but its strange IMO resting is needed given the Black Caps hadn’t played before Bangladesh for 5-6 months IIRC. We certainly don’t have a schedule as packed as the heavyweights. But then Taylor and McCullum have been playing hit and giggle during that break in the Carribean I think?
I first met people like this when I left school in the 1980s. I’d had a bit of a sheltered life growing up on a farm in the wops and was a little surprised to find you could pretty much do nothing except have babies and the state would foot the bill. I knew you could get the dole and smoke pot at the beach as did some of my contemporaries but the actual cheque was hardly worth it.
It never fails to amaze me that here we are thirty years later and nothing has really changed, save the recent tweaks by National – which, according to someone I know in the welfare industrial complex – will have long term benefits (see what I did there) and as much as they shriek about it, the Left will never repeal the changes.
Countless billions wasted. Countless deadbeats spawned in the biggest, most expensive breeding programme ever seen in NZ. I read on this site (I think) that the cost of welfare over two decades in New Zealand was equal to the entire value of all the real estate and property in the entire South Island. Twice.
I hope your offspring does become a surgeon, should I need it, I’ll be asking for her firm and steady hand!
If you identify politically as a social liberal and you support National, you’re actually supporting the wrong party. You need to join Labour and fight to reshape that party into a low taxing small government party.
You won’t succeed of course, for social liberalism and small government are mutually exclusive. However, you might just learn how politically confused you are.
Duggle: Legal and personal reasons prevent me from elaborating further….suffice it to say that I am very proud both of my children AND my estranged wife…who despite having only a 5th form education, and speaking English as a second language, is NOT a beneficiary….She worked out for herself that that was no kind of life…
You need to stick to discussing body building with your homosexual buddy. You know far more about that than you do about politics, and its also a subject where the kind of shallow ignorance that underpins the baseless assertions that are your speciality is less conspicuous.
I think of all the things I despised most about the socialists – and their even worse cousins the Greens – was their strident defence of “beneficiaries rights” to continue claiming all they possibly could…I didn’t feel that way for any ideological reason, or views on the “entitlement” mentality, but because I realised relatively quickly that the socialists and watermelons KNEW that a life on a benefit was a life of depression, addiction, lack of fulfillment and personal achievement, and probably early death..but they didnt care, because that stance is what their ideology demanded of them…
To hell with the betterment of the people they supposedly represent and championed…Sue Bradford would have to be the worse such offender….she is not an unintelligent woman by any means – Her Dad was a uni lecturer; Sue had a solid upper middle class upbringing…
As the benefit/dope smoking ,entitlement counter culture grows and is spread by the leftist media more and more people are drawn into it. It really is a big part of what passes for western culture now.
There are beneficiaries, and there a ‘beneficiaries’. Those that make it a career option, and those that through no fault of their own are caught out by the actions of others – e.g. 25 years working at one place that goes belly up.
I have no problem with criticism of those who think being a beneficiary is an ‘option’, however I would hate to see a system where there is no support for those who through sickness, redundancy etc are caught without enough money to live on.
I realise there is income protection insurance and so on, but when a person is on a lower wage, it is not always possible to pay the extra cost, and there are a lot of people who for years having been in the same job think they are safe. It’s hard for middle-aged people to accept that things have changed and there is no such thing as job security anymore.
Our welfare system is important. It needs protecting – and part of doing that is getting rid of those that rip it off (no I don’t mean call in a mafia).
Azeraph, Fukushima is already gone, its been pumping plutonium eradiated water into the Pacific for two years, which concentrates in organic matter (like Fish, that we eat, and then it concentrates in Us) Nasty stuff, radiation. Should never have messed with the structure of atoms.
The sooner Japan divests itself of its other nuclear reactors, the safer we will all be. Nuclear power is on the way out. She and Nature are not stable bedfellows. But now we have the technology in weapons…yup, humans, evolving and progressing.
Jude,i don’t have any serious disagreement with what you say. The stuff about employment insurance is logically circular but let’s not worry about that. (if government wasn’t over-taxing, and thereby impoverishing people, they could afford it)
You need to get to the base, and that is every time a government increases in size it takes some of your income and your freedom.
So why would anyone who wants a country to be wealthy and free also want big government?
Reminds me about the story of the song Here I Go Again by Whitesnake.
The original, more bluesy, version of the song had the line Like a hobo I was born to walk alone, but they thought people might mistake “hobo” for “homo”, so for the 1987 remake, they changed the line to like a drifter I was born to walk alone
ain’t it great to see all of the pundits who have been putting down the Conservatives for so long getting all nervous and sweaty?
Last time I checked it was the conservatives bitching and wailing about how the liberals have taken over. Something you make a full time job of. No amount of parroting US sourced conservative boiler plate rhetoric will hide the reality. Your ignorant narrow world is not what is needed to combat socialism. What is needed is an open liberal society with far less management from central government.
Judith (4,180) Says:
October 26th, 2013 at 11:14 am
It might not have a choice. Why didn’t they isolate the sea area around the plant by building a harbor sea wall? I don’t have a clue if this would work with ground water being irradiated and possibly escaping into the sea but if worst comes to worst then what do you think is going to happen eventually to the South pacific? The 2 are not separate.
Yes Fletch, retrospective re-applicatons of historical word definitions is interesting. I saw a documentary with Martin Luther Kings Jr’s sidekick recently, discussing the historical contexts of the word “nigger.” That of course came up recently, when that juror went viral. And is up again in the debate over re-naming the 80year old “Redskins”.
I see what you say, and strangely, agree! The problem is getting to the right point, a point where less taxes are paid, and government is minimised to a ‘necessary’ size. You can’t cut the taxes, until the costs of running Government are decreased, and vice versa. The problem is with the transgression – and that is where people are generally short sighted, perhaps peppered with a clear mistrust of politicians and any sitting government to get it right and see it through to fruition.
Clearly having an election every three years is a huge stumbling block – it allows those who cannot visualise the positive effects to interrupt the process.
“they changed the line to like a drifter I was born to walk alone”
Who are “they” and how come they can do that?
They’re culturally divisive Marxists who know that if they attack the homogeneity of western culture it will help immensely in their objective of destroying it and replacing it with the new improved progressive model.
The same strategy underpins their current mission to have the Redskins renamed. I detest it, but what pisses me off most is the lame acceptance of such outrageous deceit. where they claim they seek tolerance and unity when their real objective is to divide us and weaken us.
They should be told to back off in no uncertain terms, but they never are. Marxists are given a free hand to manipulate society because people are too damn intimidated to fight back.
@ Azeraph (493) Says:
October 26th, 2013 at 11:28 am
I agree, but remember when the last big tsunami hit, and how the Japanese seemed to go to great lengths to disguise the damage that had been done to the nuclear plants. The question is how far are other countries prepared to go to force them to take action, because in the end, that might be what has to happen?
How many people are prepared to put embargoes on Japanese products for example or do other such things to force action that might upset trade agreements and the like? Trade and common sense don’t always go hand in hand.
The original 1982 version of the Whitesnake classic, “Here I Go Again”, featured the line, “Like a hobo, I was born to walk alone”, but the 1987 version replaced the word “hobo” with “drifter”. In an interview, Coverdale claimed he changed the lyric because he was afraid people would think he was saying homo instead of hobo.
Judith (4,182) Says:
October 26th, 2013 at 11:36 am
Yes, you are right as well but whether we have the punch to start it is a different matter all together. JK could scoop a major mana grab of an unprecedented level if he had the balls to risk it, it’s too late after the fact. Would anyone risk business? We all know what it’s like to dump and run and how long it can take to get back on ones feet afterward.
The Left fight nasty and Conservatives tend to have manners Red, that’s what it comes down to I think. Consv.s also tend to avoid conflict, while Liberals seek it. We’re speaking in generalisations of course, there are exceptions to both statements.
The BIG Q. is, which general ideology produces the best outcomes for society. Or is a blend the best?
Just the latest in a line of non argumentative comments that are observed in almost everything you have written here today.
What a gutless two faced prick !
KB (and other sites, you are not banned from) is littered day after day with your abusive and pointless attacks. Yet when you get a tiny taste of your own medicine you run for the moral high ground and cry victim.
One of the key players in the Len Brown sex scandal was seen leaving an Air New Zealand plane in San Francisco yesterday morning after an 11-hour flight.
Like a dog with his tail between his legs this man has demonstrated through his actions that he is a cowardly opportunist, who can talk the talk but can’t walk it.
This leaves Palino with the unenviable task of facing the media on his return from holiday in Melbourne, however that is contingent on him returning.
Penny Webster has apologised for naming MP Mark Mitchell as her informant :
Councillor Penny Webster said she was upset that the Rodney MP had had to defend himself against attacks on his integrity and character by Labour MPs in the parliamentary debating chamber.
That apology indicates where Penny is politically and perhaps she has one eye on the future, a return to parliament, however a glaring omission is her lack of an apology to Len Brown for discussing his affair clandestinely with a National Party M.P.
In addition to that MP Mark Mitchell’s comments to Penny indicate that the gossip was circulating within the beltway and sooner than later were going to make the front pages.
What I can never understand about the Greens and their ideological sympathisers is that although they propagate the theory that Nature Knows Best in pretty much all areas, this doesn’t apply to humans. Somehow, people are all the same and are sacred. I beg to differ.
Maybe that’s why you’ll almost never find a farmer voting for the Greens. All farmers know about breeding. They routinely breed out those with characteristics they don’t want, otherwise things all turn to shit, from lettuces to cows.
So, on the one hand, Gareth Hughes and Julie Anne Genter would pull out a diseased tomato plant, and not breed from a physically deformed orangutan or whatever
But then conversely they will be the drivers of piling state largess on the weakest, most useless members of society, including allowing them to have as many kids as they want because it is their right to do so. I would warrant somebody like Sue Bradford would eradicate all illness from malaria to AIDS in sub Africa if they could, without thought, taking away every natural inhibitor or population growth and thereby trebling the poverty and misery in that fucked country.
I think Judith’s made some good points today. If we had never instituted such a damaging, no fault have-as-much-as-you-like welfare system all those years ago, we would be simply shitting money today – which could be spent on those people who really need a hand.
Luigi is a free man, he can do whatever he wants but he can’t safely rely on using any Nz refs for fear of being linked as a unsavory character. Mind you i wouldn’t have stuck around as long as he did.
I wonder if stephen has got his vid done with Bevan as she was completely broke.
Has anyone noticed the Herald’s online headline “Wewege seen fleeing New Zealand”?
The ACTUAL story is that Wewege was seen – dressed casually, not in any kind of disguise – getting off a plane in San Fran. And that his final destination is unknown, but thought to be Florida. THAT’s the story. Why is he described as “fleeing”? From what? For what reason? Palino “fled” the country last week – but now we hear is returning next week…
People leave and return to NZ every farking day…THAT’s how desparate the former journal of record is to find some evidence of the VRWC at work in Len’s difficulties….which miraculously now all seem to be over….
duggledog, “I would warrant somebody like Sue Bradford would eradicate all illness from malaria to AIDS in sub Africa if they could, without thought, taking away every natural inhibitor or population growth and thereby trebling the poverty and misery in that fucked country.”
This is actually the position of the UN and both national foreign aid programmes and private charity donors like Bill Gates.
As to whether lower death rates increase population, the evidence is mixed. Often parents will have fewer children if they are confident of their children’s survival, and improved economic well-being also results in reduced focus in just breeding more children.
The Herald on Sunday has an “exclusive interview” with Luigi Wewege (sounds like the name of a porn star) tomorrow.
Perhaps that will clear up a puzzling aspect of today’s story: who connected the dots between San Francisco and Florida? How can you observe a person getting off a plane in San Francisco and conclude that they must be going to Florida? Who provided the additional piece of information? That’s not explained in today’s story and, given the big hoo-ha about Wewege’s flight details, arguably should have been.
Nostra: I suppose the person who clocked him at the airport could have followed him over to the domestic side to see where he was going…but so what? Perhaps there is a convention of the VRWC in Florida somewhere, as we speak? I guess all will be revealed tomorrow…or not…
In Asia, China has determined on living within a finite environment by keeping population to a billion or so, thus allowing their economic growth to improve living standards, whereas India has a still rising population and may reach 2 billion.
In Africa the population is still increasing, but the determination of their population demographic should not be disease, lack of health care and clean water etc or famine.
It will be interesting to see when we have our first Kiwi chinese PM. that will be a momentous day as it will be the day we have severed our ties to europe, Yay! Poor buggers are going to be africanised then converted to islam with the Germans still holding out as a semi christian in name country.
We let a few in but sooner or later we got to put the brakes on because there is going to be a flood.
An Australian tour guide was showing a group of American tourists the Top End On their way to Kakadu. He was describing the abilities of the Australian aborigine to track man or beast over land, through the air, or beneath the sea. The Americans were incredulous.
Then, later in the day, the tour rounded a bend on the highway and discovered, lying in the middle of the road, an Aborigine. He had one ear pressed to the white line whilst his left leg was held high in the air. The tour stopped and the guide and the tourists gathered around the prostrate Aborigine.
“Jacky” said the tour guide “what are you tracking and what are you listening for?”
The aborigine replied “Down the road about 25 miles is a 1971 Valiant Ute. It’s red. The left front tire is bald. The front end is out of whack and it has dents in every panel. There are 9 black fellas in the back, all drinking warm beer. The American tourists moved forward, astounded by this precise and detailed knowledge.
“Wow, man! How do you know all that?” asked one American. The Aborigine replied “I fell out of the fucking thing about 15 minutes ago!!”
They’re culturally divisive Marxists who know that if they attack the homogeneity of western culture it will help immensely in their objective of destroying it and replacing it with the new improved progressive model.
Yes. Their evil plot was furthered by changing a single word in a Whitesnake song.
Reddy, you are the poster boy for why civilisation has to occasionally repress conservatives. It’s been 70 odd years. I guess time for another round.
I don’t know about you guys but this forum is the only place people still use the word communists which tells you a lot, it’s like the word Huzzah or however it is spelt it was abandoned when a few of german soldiers on bicycles destroyed a three thousand strong cavalry group of english at the opening stages of WW1. The cavalry charged and died and that was that.
I have a good word for the supposed extreme lefties “Fringies” and the extreme righties “Serials”