NZ 5th most prosperous in the world

October 31st, 2013 at 3:00 pm by David Farrar

The 2013 Legatum Prosperity Index has just been published. NZ is in 5th place out of 142 countries, which is the highest rating for an Asia-Pacific country. The top 10 are:

  1. Norway
  2. Switzerland
  3. Canada
  4. Sweden
  5. New Zealand
  6. Denmark
  7. Australia
  8. Finland
  9. Netherlands
  10. Luxembourg

The bottom 10 are:

  1. Chad
  2. Central African Republic
  3. Congo
  4. Afghanistan
  5. Burundi
  6. Togo
  7. Yemen
  8. Guinea
  9. Haiti
  10. Angola

For NZ the sub-indices were:

  • Economy 17th
  • Entrepreneurship & Opportunity 15th
  • Governance 2nd
  • Education 1st
  • Health 20th
  • Safety & Security 15th
  • Personal Freedom 5th
  • Social Capital 2nd

There’s a lot worse places to live!

 

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50 Responses to “NZ 5th most prosperous in the world”

  1. pedrogarcia (52 comments) says:

    What are these people smoking?

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  2. Kleva Kiwi (289 comments) says:

    1st in education? That dosnt sound at all accurate.

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  3. Bovver (173 comments) says:

    NZ always does well in these reports and is definitely one of the better places in the world to live, I find it hard to believe anyone would disagree.

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  4. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    It measures prosperity based on both income and wellbeing.

    Mexico is 27 .A practically failed state at 27!

    Nuff said.

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  5. gump (1,650 comments) says:

    We also rank highly for the number of moaners per capita.

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  6. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    There’s a lot worse places to live!

    Singapore, for instance… ;-)

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  7. duggledog (1,559 comments) says:

    Bovver: ‘and is definitely one of the better places in the world to live, I find it hard to believe anyone would disagree.’ Well Russell Norman and David Cunliffe strongly disagree.

    Hence I suspect many NZers think Labour / Greens are bonkers. Because according to the evil twins, this administration has virtually destroyed the country.

    What does prosperity mean? I always maintain the poorest person in this country would have at least 2 billion people on this planet change places with them in a heartbeat.

    So we should enjoy the moment. God forbid the country decides to change government next year in which case we will be hurtling towards Chad by the end of 2015!

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  8. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    @pedrogarcia: Sabes lo que hablas? Pelotudeces!

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  9. Monty (978 comments) says:

    Wait for the green Taliban to steal the treasury benches and then NZ will be competing with North Korea, Chad, Congo etc for one of the worst places to live. But at least we will have equality, and the green utopia will mean that we don’t care about such rankings as we will be clean green and energy efficient.

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  10. Bill Courtney (161 comments) says:

    1st in education, strong in governance and social capital and lousy at business and entrepreneurship. Sounds about right. But guess who gets to have the strongest say in education policy? That’s right: Treasury and its team of economists backed up by their business mates at the NZ Initiative. Yeah Right.

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  11. Monty (978 comments) says:

    Well bill thanks to National not being beholden to the voles militant teacher unions, NZ has improved educational outputs. Now we have honesty in reporting thanks to national standards. Parents I speak to love the fact that the kids are measured and schools accountable thanks to unofficial league tables. Time to move on for you and find some other cause. The left have lost the National Standards arguement.

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  12. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    Nothing wrong with that, Bill. Much better than in the hands of your NZEI and Labour Party mates.

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  13. F E Smith (3,305 comments) says:

    Still a relatively low wage society, though. For the cost of living here, one would hope the wages were higher.

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  14. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    No doubt the resident god addled authoritarians will be devastated by this. Looks like homos, progs and atheists have not ruined everything after all.

    In fact all the top countries feature highly in the non religious stakes, while all the lowest ranked countries are very religious.

    Just sayin…:)

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  15. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    I don’t understand the rankings.

    NZ is 1st in Education. UK is 30th. Hong Kong is 43rd. Switzerland is 27th. What exactly is being measusured because it seems to go against intuition. Sure, NZ might be 1st, but are those other countries really that lowly?

    Health is interesting. USA is 2nd. Yet they have a life expectancy considerably less than NZ. How can that be? Clearly I am missing something here.

    How can Luxembourg be 1st in Health and 46th in Education? Did Mickey Mouse do the calculations?

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  16. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    In fact all the top countries feature highly in the non religious stakes, while all the lowest ranked countries are very religious.

    Not really. The majority of those places are primitive tribal societies (most in Africa.) Therein lies the reason.

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  17. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Manolo, primitive people are very religious. [Look at kowtow for example.]

    You will not find a primitive non religious society.

    Don’t kid your self that Christianity is anything more than a primitive superstition, just because white people practise it down the road.

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  18. Psycho Milt (2,412 comments) says:

    1st in education, strong in governance and social capital and lousy at business and entrepreneurship. Sounds about right.

    Yup, that’s us alright.

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  19. Manolo (13,837 comments) says:

    Kea, you’re preaching (pun intended) to the converted: I’m an atheist, but respect others’ beliefs.

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  20. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    kea as always talking bigotted shit.

    If we are to take the rankings at face value (which I’m not) then all those top 10 are Christian.A number are even Christain monarchies.

    The bottom are all Muslim(which does make sense) ,kea in his Syrian incarnation would identify with the shit dwellers.

    Monty.If the Green Taliban take control we’ll still be up there ,how the hell do they measure “wellbeing” ,I suspect by the size of transfers from working people to non workers.In fact we’d probably go up a notch or 2!!!

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  21. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Manolo, I respect them too, in normal life.

    In fact you will regulary see me defending religion from attacks by christian zealots here on KB. The least respectful, of religion, are the religious.

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  22. thedavincimode (6,800 comments) says:

    Where did we rank for governance during Helengrad/Kermadec/brown paper bag era?

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  23. Cato (1,095 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t engage with Kea – he is well known as the buffoon of Kiwiblog comments.

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  24. doggone7 (808 comments) says:

    Monty

    Okay, since Ms Tolley and Ms Parata have been ministers you reckon education has shot up to be first so you’re giving them credit. Before you get off the stage how about fair dues to those responsible for Economy 17th, Entrepreneurship & Opportunity 15th, Safety & Security 15th.

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  25. Bill Courtney (161 comments) says:

    “Okay, since Ms Tolley and Ms Parata have been ministers you reckon education has shot up to be first so you’re giving them credit.”

    No! Check out their website and you will see that NZ and Australia have ranked 1st or 2nd in education each year from 2010 to the present. Sorry, Monty, but doggone has it right and you’re missing the point, mate.

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  26. SGA (1,069 comments) says:

    kowtow at 4:21 pm

    The bottom are all Muslim(which does make sense) ,kea in his Syrian incarnation would identify with the shit dwellers.

    No. I’m fairly sure that Islam is a minority religion in the Congo, Togo, Haiti, Angola, and the Central African Republic.

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  27. hj (7,033 comments) says:

    New Zealand scored in the top 20 for all categories, coming out fifth overall, but slipped two places since the last Legatum Prosperity Index was published in 2009.
    The report’s publishers said one of the largest shifts between the two reports was in the safety and security category, where New Zealand dropped from eighth to 15th place. This was “due to increases in demographic pressures, human immigration and group grievances”.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11149067

    Is immigration what the governments cracks it up to be?

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  28. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Bill Courtney:
    “NZ and Australia have ranked 1st or 2nd in education each year from 2010 to the present.”

    When did National get into power? :)
    Not that I think for a moment that Tolley/Parata are responsible for NZ’s ranking in Education… (where’s Finland anyway?)

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  29. Bill Courtney (161 comments) says:

    Adze,
    The database seems to only go back to 2010, which is why I quoted 2010 to 2013. No government elected in November 2008 could have affected the outcomes for a 2010 survey.

    Finland seems to have come 3rd in 2010 and then 3rd, 8th and 6th in subsequent years.

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  30. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    SGA

    Fair comment. I was referring to the Personal freedom sub index in the report itself and should have said so.Even Turkey is listed as a bottom dweller there. A good candidate for EU membership.

    Mea culpa.

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  31. Kea (12,841 comments) says:

    Catty, thanks for sharing your feelings, but any comment on the topic ?

    I don’t think rational folk will listen to those who worship imaginary middle east cult figures in 2013 NZ

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  32. Andronicus (219 comments) says:

    Well, well…

    So the inhabitants of the twin evil empires, the NZEI and the PPTA, provide the best education in the world!

    Who would have thought it?

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  33. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    I reckon it’s a great education in spite of said bodies.

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  34. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    Anyone who has travelled will tell you that NZ enjoys one of the world’s highest standard of life.

    I’m constantly amazed by Kiwis putting down their country. Compared to most of the world, its paradise

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  35. Dazzaman (1,140 comments) says:

    Just about all of those top 10 countries, including NZ, are picking up muslims (in the case of the Scando countries breeding them) by the shit load…..give it a decade or two they’ll slip down the list.

    The only real measure of prosperity is money…that’s in short supply here. We are not prosperous.

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  36. doggone7 (808 comments) says:

    kowto: “I reckon it’s a great education in spite of said bodies.”

    Just like Sebastian Vettel again won the Formula One Championship despite the mechanics, pit crew, wider team and the Renault.

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  37. kowtow (8,522 comments) says:

    What the education system has is our money and loads of it,parents,communities,boards,the students themselves etc not just union hacks.

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  38. Dennis Horne (2,403 comments) says:

    90% statistics are made up on the spot.

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  39. Samuel Smith (276 comments) says:

    1st in education.

    Neolibs, pick up the performance in your small to medium sized businesses and get us to number one overall.

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  40. Johnboy (16,651 comments) says:

    Jeeze if we could outsource darkies/muzzies/anyonenotlikeus we could be no.1 in a year or two! :)

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  41. lolitasbrother (702 comments) says:

    Pure garbage.
    The idea that NZ is more prosperous than Australia is stupid,
    and everyone who has been to Australia knows that for sure.

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  42. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    @lolitasbrother, apparently Tony Abbot has already fucked the lucky country, if you believe Fairfax.

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  43. hj (7,033 comments) says:

    Someone pointed out elsewhere that the difference between a #1 and 10 can be very minor and subjective.

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  44. wreck1080 (3,923 comments) says:

    Every man and their dog are publishing global country rankings of one sort or another.

    Boring!!!

    If you want prosperous, I believe Qatar have the highest average wages, followed by Luxembourg perhaps?

    NZ average wages would be way down on that list.

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  45. LabourDoesntWork (290 comments) says:

    It’s more important to know where you’re going than where you think you are. Better to take in some knowledge of history than a snapshot of the present.

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  46. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (890 comments) says:

    In fact NZ has done bad bros. The site says this about NZ:

    “New Zealand has moved down two places since 2009 on overall Prosperity to 5th in 2013. ” So we have been in 3rd place in 2009 (due to the efforts of Labour until 2008) and once Labour left office we slid to 5th. Bad news bros. So zip it.

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  47. Gulag1917 (930 comments) says:

    There must be a lot of rocket scientists somewhere making up for those at the bottom.

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  48. Scott1 (552 comments) says:

    Dean Papa,
    “The Education sub-index illustrates how access to education, as measured by enrolment rates, allows citizens to develop their potential and contribute productively to their society. In addition, it shows that human capital stock, measured by the average levels of education in the workforce, encourages research and development, and adds knowledge to society”

    I think we can see why that measure inflates the position of NZ relative to what you or I would consider important for education.

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  49. Scott (1,805 comments) says:

    I find it strange that we are ranked first for education? We have a good size group of students doing well. But we have a large amount of students who leave school and can’t particularly read or write.

    Is NCEA a world leading system of education? Is our school discipline really the best in the world? Many classrooms are simply out of control. My understanding is that overseas students come here and many find the work too easy.

    So I would take the ranking with a grain of salt.

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  50. doggone7 (808 comments) says:

    Scott: “So I would take the ranking with a grain of salt.”

    it’s just like all surveys and stats – we agree with the ones which paint the picture we want and ignore or disparage those we don’t want to hear. That’s a reputable business used by all. Hekia Parata does that all the time and her predecessor did the same. So in the education world your stance is well-practised.

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