McCarten’s losers and winners

December 29th, 2013 at 8:18 am by David Farrar

gives his losers and winners for 2013:

Losers

  1. Len Brown
  2. John Banks
  3. David Shearer
  4. Pita Sharples
  5. Peter Dunne

Winners

  1. David Cunliffe
  2. Colin Craig
  3. John Key
  4. Russel Norman
  5. Winston Peters
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42 Responses to “McCarten’s losers and winners”

  1. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    Who could argue with this cultured, sensible and unbiased political commentator?

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  2. George Patton (330 comments) says:

    No mention of his mates Willie Jackson and John Tamihere, who bravely stood up for rape culture on air, at the expense of a brave girl.

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  3. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    Matt McCarten has left out one perennial loser; a union leader reduced to writing hopelessly partisan columns in a Sunday paper. That person’s name; Matt McCarten.

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  4. Pete George (21,798 comments) says:

    Of the winners:

    David Cunliffe won the Labour leadership and a significant personal goal but he is yet to win over his caucus or either of middle New Zealand (usually necessary to win elections) or the 800,000 who will never vote or are totally disillusioned with politics.

    Colin Craig won plenty of media attention but that didn’t translate into wining any more public support – the exposure may have harmed his chances as much as anything.

    Russel Norman was winning on the left for two thirds of the year but he faded as Cunliffe took charge of Labour, and like Craig more exposure for Norman may have hurt his election chances by scaring people off a Green influenced government.

    John Key and Winston Peters are hardly winners, they may not have lost ground but they have hardly gained any.

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  5. wat dabney (3,429 comments) says:

    Perhaps the teenage scribbler will also tell us what he got for Christmas?

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  6. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    On reading this, I got the feeling that McCarten appears to be confusing informed objective commentary with opinionated partisanship. Lazy editing, I would have thrown it back with a ‘could do better – rewrite’ note attached. Have the Herald lost sight of the idea that Blogs fill the personal opinion niche already and that an article in a newspaper with national circulation is supposed to be a bit more substantial?

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  7. Michael (880 comments) says:

    Hone Hawawira has been the bigger loser than Pita Sharples. He only seems to appear on TV when his ego gets bruised by John Key and demands that he personally gets privileged treatment in compensation. Plus his absence from Parliament and overseas junkets will eventually backfire.

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  8. martinh (824 comments) says:

    i think Lens browns wife should be on it. It was her who Len cheated with on his first wife. So haha reap what you sow there Shan

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  9. flipper (3,268 comments) says:

    Let us not treat this seriously.

    McCarten is an idiot. Ergo his opinions on matters political/economic are in the same category.

    But before I go, perhaps we should recall all those economic predictors currently being hailed by almost every analyst worthy of the name. If that does not make W English, J Key and the long patient New Zealand public the victors…..??????

    Bring on 2014….. It is the economy, STUPID (aka McCarten).

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  10. igm (851 comments) says:

    McCarten’s views are irrelevant. He makes Sue Bradord appear a capitalist . . . nothing but a wasted space, and another left-wing example of dishonesty.

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  11. WineOh (428 comments) says:

    Winston Peters – one has to recognise his skills as a political survivor.
    But I just wish he would STFU and retire.

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  12. duggledog (1,103 comments) says:

    McCarten is a winner in one respect; the guy should have been dead by now. Much as I disagree with pretty much everything he stands for, I wish him the best of health for 2014 and beyond.

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  13. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    Of course, there’s another loser where Matt McCarten is concerned; the IRD. He’d never admit to having diddled the taxman though…

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  14. Pete George (21,798 comments) says:

    Michael – according to Mana’s social media promoter Martyn Bradbury Harawira spends most of his time electioneering.

    Under the mainstream media radar, MANA have been making huge efforts in each Maori electorate to build Party infrastructure, their surprise second place win in Ikaroa-Rawhiti was proof of that.

    While the media attack Hone for not being in Parliament, he spends all his time on the road in those electorates meeting Maori communities large and small.

    And not surprisingly Bradbury talks up Mana success.

    MANA will pick up 2 electorate seats and another MP off the Party list. If they cut a deal with Labour to end the Maori Party, they will also hand an election win to the left.

    Mana may manage one more seat off the list but any more than that is very doubtful.

    Bradbury is correct suggesting that Mana may help a left wing coalition into power. May. A significant potential Green+Mana influence may scare a lot of voters off.

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  15. Ross Miller (1,624 comments) says:

    Someone may wish to ‘educate’ me as to what WRP did to make the list of ‘winners’. Remaining alive perhaps!!!!!!!!?

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  16. rouppe (852 comments) says:

    What overwhelming bias. Apparently John Banks is liar and cheat (not really sure where the cheat was) but Len Brown is just a sinner, even though he has been proven to be a liar and a cheat.

    And Russell Norman a winner? Every time he speaks he sounds like an old goat, and simply complains about everything.

    By the way, hasn’t Matt McCarten failed to submit the annual statements for his Unite Union?

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  17. ManuT (33 comments) says:

    Matt McCarten is possibly the least informed political commentator in New Zealand.
    That stuttering reflects a stuttering brain. Why do we even listen to the tossa!

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  18. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    What actually has Colin Craig done? It’s all a media creation. If the Conservatives are a replacement for ACT, the National vote will go up.

    Russell Normal why?

    David Cunliffe – losing the initial fizz.

    Winston Peters – always amusing.

    I would put Judith Collins well before Russell Norman.

    Just my opinion.

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  19. MrTips (134 comments) says:

    I’m surprised Gerry Brownlee’s not in that list.

    The fact he’s kept going despite the corruption and incompetence of EQC/Fletcher’s is astounding.

    And I say this as a National voter.

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  20. OneTrack (1,957 comments) says:

    Pete – A significant potential Green+Mana influence SHOULD scare a lot of voters off. fify :-)

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  21. Mobile Michael (364 comments) says:

    PG – couldn’t agree more. National have the last week of the campaign all ready to go. “A Labour led Government will need to rely on the Greens and Mana. That means …. [insert bottom line policies that scare middle NZ]. Don’t put it at risk, vote National.”

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  22. wiseowl (571 comments) says:

    Matt who? Couldn’t give a shit what this guy thinks.

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  23. Joanne (177 comments) says:

    The biggest loser is the Auckland ratepayer/resident and the rest of the country feel deeply deeply sorry for them.

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  24. Than (368 comments) says:

    While I mostly agree with the “losers” list (the only change I’d make is substituting Aaron Gilmore instead of Peter Dunne), McCarten’s sets the bar for “winner” pretty low.

    Cunliffe is a clear winner. And holding steady support despite enacting some contentious policies (GCSB reform, asset sales) is a modest win for John Key and the government. But the rest have achieved effectively nothing. Winston Peters got an minor win by accusing Dunne, but after that was invisible for most of the year. Russell Norman got the referendum on asset sales, but the result was nowhere near the overwhelming rejecting he would have been hoping for. And Colin Craig finally got media exposure, and used it to confirm the negative perceptions many people have about him.

    My picks for the Top 5 Political Winners of 2013;

    – David Cunliffe
    – John Key
    – Maurice Williamson. The “big gay rainbow” speech brought him both local and international fame, and did a lot to improve his options for when he retires from politics.
    – Shane Jones. A solid performance in the leadership contest raised his stock within the Labour party, setting him up for a good cabinet post or potentially even the leadership sometime down the track.
    – Louise Wall. It’s not often a backbencher get’s to make their mark on the country the way she did.

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  25. PaulL (5,774 comments) says:

    My view of what Matt is up to, consciously or unconsciously:

    - Pita Sharples: labelling the Maori Party as being National Party stooges (surprised he he didn’t say Uncle Tom, but I guess you can’t put everything in one column). Part of a plan to make sure that if the Maori Party end up holding the balance of power, it’s impossible for them to go with National. And, by the way, the Maori Party are far more likely to be king maker than Winston Peters is. I suppose they’re supposed to have gotten over the “last cab off the rank” comments?

    - John Banks: a sort of back handed compliment here about a poor boy made good – to the left it’s very important that you start out poor, it gives you instant credibility. Presumably nobody whose parents could manage to put together a few dollars will ever amount to anything, or if they do, it won’t be because they personally had talent.

    - Len Brown: a sinner? I would have thought it was more than that. I like the way that Matt pretends that behaving like one of the elite is novel and different, as opposed to normal/expected left wing behaviour. Very interesting the suggestion he could be redeemed – is that legitimate commentary or just wishful thinking?

    - Winston: he’d like him to be king maker, so the left are talking him up. It’s possible, but in that position I suspect Winston would go with National rather than a rag-tag coalition. National would be crazy to do that – every coalition they’ve had with him has exploded. But I guess that’d be third term, you’d be long odds for a fourth anyway.

    - Russel Norman. Only Matt could think that what Russel has done has made the Greens serious economic players – every policy they have announced has been denounced by all serious economists. Is there a reason we think that economists don’t know anything about economics?

    - John Key. Lucky. Of course. Continuing the meme that it’s not because he’s smart, good with people, and pragmatic that keeps him in power. No. Just luck.

    - Colin Craig. Again, putting a meme out there that National are forming an accommodation. I’m pretty sure he isn’t mainstream, and that media who are giving him air time aren’t doing it because they’re trying to help National. Most of them are trying to pull him down before he could be a serious contender. Poison the well early.

    - Cunliffe. The by election win wasn’t massive, it was never in doubt. Talking up a forgone conclusion like it somehow justified putting Cunliffe in. And stating the obvious – that if you can motivate the left wing vote and get them to turn up (harder than it sounds), and then get every party except for National to join you in coalition, then you’d be prime minister. But no comment on how likely that really is…or what a shambles such a government would be, both for NZ, and for the Labour party (can you say “one term”?)

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  26. Chuck Bird (4,402 comments) says:

    “- Winston: he’d like him to be king maker, so the left are talking him up. It’s possible, but in that position I suspect Winston would go with National rather than a rag-tag coalition. National would be crazy to do that – every coalition they’ve had with him has exploded.”

    As I recall National just one coalition with Winston. If Shipley had not rolled Bolger National may have got another term.

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  27. PaulL (5,774 comments) says:

    You’re right Chuck, one bad coalition between National and NZ First, and another between Labour and NZ First. Still, back to the point, anyone who goes into coalition with NZ First is in trouble.

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  28. MH (558 comments) says:

    once again we will wait for the ever discerning voters in the Epsom Electorate to make up their minds (once they actually get to a polling booth) to decide on the faint of the country. If they could throw in their towels for Banks then they may as well go naked this time around and party vote strategically once more,based on opinion polls,the NZH and meetings involving the media and JK looking at tea leaves. If only the rest of the country could follow so easily, no need for a Payed Piper to show the way.

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  29. doggone7 (487 comments) says:

    “Matt McCarten is possibly the least informed political commentator in New Zealand.”

    In contrast to all of us who come on here to comment on politics who are so well-informed?
    And to offer an opinion does one have to be informed?

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  30. Keeping Stock (9,788 comments) says:

    Winston Peters; three times a Cabinet Minister, and three times it ended in tears. Sorry Winston, but it’s three strikes and you’re out.

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  31. Yoza (1,348 comments) says:

    Pete George (20,272 comments) says:
    December 29th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Michael – according to Mana’s social media promoter Martyn Bradbury Harawira spends most of his time electioneering.

    Mana will never have access to the multiple millions of dollars that concentrations of capital shower on political vehicles like ACT, National or the Conservative party. I imagine Hone understands better than most that parliament is just another stick the wealthy use to beat his natural constituents.

    Maintaining a respectable distance from agents representing a corporate take over of the country seems completely sensible, leave schmoozing in corporate boxes to Labour MPs.

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  32. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    The only millions Mana has access to are the ones paid to its beneficiary members. Period.

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  33. Warren Murray (238 comments) says:

    What a surprise more Left wing tripe from MM. The put down comments re Sharples shows how bitter MM really is. And MM rating Greens as serious economic players is drivel from a mad man.

    Collins and Ryall are winners (again) for how they have handled their portfolios.

    His column is desperate stuff, a chance to promote Cunliffe as PM. No, he never intended it to be an objective piece, such writing is beyond him.

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  34. Pete George (21,798 comments) says:

    I imagine Hone understands better than most that parliament is just another stick the wealthy use to beat his natural constituents.

    Maintaining a respectable distance from agents representing a corporate take over of the country seems completely sensible, leave schmoozing in corporate boxes to Labour MPs.

    What’s he an MP for then? To rake in a substantial salary and leader’s allowance and work for his own interests rather than for thew Parliament he was elected too?

    I presume Harawira is abusing his position to try and work himself into a position of power. But if he achieves that he might find the going a bit tough with little practical experience of how Parliament works.

    Building relationships amongst his constituents may help him get some power, but to use power you have to have built relationships with others in power.

    Harawira is a long time protester and activist. It’s yet to be proven whether he can do leadership and actually succeed in his political aims.

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  35. Dave Mann (1,125 comments) says:

    While I dislike the Greens’ policies and their positions on almost everything, I have to admit that Russell Norman often makes some very good points and he comes across in the media extremely well. He generally sounds likeable and intelligent. Bastard. :D

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  36. ShawnLH (1,865 comments) says:

    “What actually has Colin Craig done?”

    Created a serious alternative to ACT. If National is able to create a government next year it will be with the Conservatives. While I’m not a fan of any government, a Nat-Conservative coalition will be a blessed relief from the constant march of Liberalism/Cultural Marxism.

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  37. ShawnLH (1,865 comments) says:

    “And Colin Craig finally got media exposure, and used it to confirm the negative perceptions many people have about him.”

    Public Service Translation for those that do not understand Liberal New-Speak.

    ‘and used it to enrage Liberals and Cultural Marxists, while building a growing party of social conservatives fed up with media bias and Liberal arrogance.”

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  38. adze (1,695 comments) says:

    ” I have to admit that Russell Norman often makes some very good points and he comes across in the media extremely well. He generally sounds likeable and intelligent.”

    What? This isn’t the Norman that I’ve seen – he is relentlessly negative, has little economic sense, and has a smug, annoying-as-hell voice.

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  39. Yoza (1,348 comments) says:

    Pete George (20,293 comments) says:
    December 30th, 2013 at 6:14 am

    What’s he an MP for then?

    He was elected to represent those who voted for him. Who are you to decide how Hone should use his office to further the interests of his constituents. Parliament (the Westminster style) is designed to marginalise people like Hone, parliament is the natural habitat of the lickspittle and the courtier. Hone will never crawl in the manner of your National and Labour MP or your career public servant.

    This is the big failure of Western democracy (or success if you are among those determined to prevent any actual representative form of organisation and prefer the dictates of the corprate technocrats), like most public institutions its function is to squash real dissent, define the boundaries of acceptable debate and protect the rights and interests of the very powerful.

    If Hone was embraced with open arms by that coterie of sycophantic invertabrates that inhabit parliament I would be very surprised if he was voted in again, just look at the slow motion train wreck that is the Maori party as they attempt to justify their political existance to a constituency that is inherently antagonistic toward those whom the Maori party decided would make acceptable allies.

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  40. Manolo (12,617 comments) says:

    McCarten is an utter waste of space. The sooner he goes away, the better.

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  41. Longknives (4,039 comments) says:

    “Hone will never crawl in the manner of your National and Labour MP or your career public servant.”

    Okay- So what does your hero Hone actually ‘do’ for his rather large paycheck at the NZ taxpayers expense?

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  42. ManuT (33 comments) says:

    McCarten and Harawira should get together and make a suicide pact. Get rid of both the biggest tool and the biggest racist in New Zealand.

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