Appalling racism

January 9th, 2014 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

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Morgan Browne at Massive Magazine has blogged the above screenshot. She also has other quotes from him:

Former posts on Andrews’ personal Facebook page also specifically refer to Indians.   “How do Noel Lemmings (sic) advertise for staff? “Wanted, greasy, creepy Indian men with zero knowledge of electronics for exciting retail career” I think the ones that don’t make it automatically get employed at Burger King.”  – A personal Facebook status posted December 24, 2013 by Andrews.

Sad to see such idiocy.

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62 Responses to “Appalling racism”

  1. SHG (321 comments) says:

    Who or what is NDA Neill Matthews? Am I missing something here?

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  2. srylands (301 comments) says:

    Yes it is racist. But.. I think Indian men have a tendency to behave most inappropriately towards women, compared to men from other ethnic groups.

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  3. iMP (2,154 comments) says:

    Doesn’t our host wear “sports shoes” and use taxis? GASP!

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  4. ciaron (1,165 comments) says:

    Sounds like he’s (?) talking from experience there… have we got anything else to put it in context or what?

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  5. cha (3,539 comments) says:

    “Dekh Le”

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  6. duggledog (1,116 comments) says:

    What a fool. Still, stupid is as stupid does. Neil will now become the latest bete noire in social twat media.

    Having said that – any white NZ male who has travelled to India, Pakistan, SE Asia / Indo etc with a white female partner (especially a blonde) will know that creepy feeling of having thousands of avaricious eyes following the Mrs everywhere they walk…

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  7. srylands (301 comments) says:

    A blonde female friend travelled through India alone. She said it was like fighting off a creepy pestillence. She ended up pairing up with a fellow male traveller for a couple of weeks just for a break from it all.

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  8. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Could we have a bit more background to the story? I have no either who either Neill Andrews or Morgan Browne are…

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  9. thePeoplesFlag (102 comments) says:

    he’ll be a very lucky boy if he manages to get Carl Cox over the line next Friday.

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  10. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Or Carl Cox…

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  11. dime (8,778 comments) says:

    I don’t think this is an easy country for Indians to live in. They seem to cop it worse than PI’s, Chinese etc

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  12. stephieboy (1,152 comments) says:

    One of my more more heartening memories was of John Key’s first election victory speech which included a notable presence of Indian supporters joining in the celebrations .
    srlands , the blonde lone traveler India. Not nearly as bad I would say as our recent German Travelers
    .!

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  13. altiora (14 comments) says:

    Not tactful at all. But I don’t think this is “appalling racism”. I suspect it was a reaction to the allegation of racism made by that Indian guy a few weeks back. If you go to the bar’s facebook page, you will notice several photographs of Indian patrons (along with other ethnicities), and I understand there is an Indian DJ there. So it can’t be that the owner is racist towards Indians per se. The defining characteristic was on the “oversized leather jacket and sports shoes”; and yes some Indian immigrants do dress like that. The post just reflects that clubs and bars exclude those patrons who don’t come from the crowd they market for. In this case Famous aims for the hip young “beautiful” crowd. Quite frankly that’s the way it should be: too many bars and night clubs, especially those that attract younger pakeha and asian women, are prone to attract a lot of undesirable men. And when that happens, your bar gets a reputation as being full of creepy men, and the young women patrons cease coming. So good business sense. But as I say, not tactful and better not said in public (especially given some leftist will use it to justify all manner of divisive and statist nonsense).

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  14. Viking2 (10,733 comments) says:

    His opinion and we still have, last time I looked, a right to speak freely. Don’t like it, get over yourself and don’t read the shit.

    Here we have someone expressing their opinion. The next post is about Govt. and busybodies filtering other peoples opinion. Take your pick, either we have a right to say what we think and allow those the want to listen or we don’t.
    Can’t have it both ways unless you want full time PC, nanny state censorship.
    Harden up.
    Sticks and stones stuff.

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  15. safesally (36 comments) says:

    I have been involved in the “Entertainment Industry” for a few years now and can say there are groups of men with the same characteristics:
    Some get too involved with the working girls and it ends up costing more than just money
    Some are just violent and look for any opportunity to vent their inner anger
    Others genuinely care for the girls (these are the best clients)

    To get to the point we can easily divide these groups by race in Auckland; I will not do that in this forum with the exception of Indian men.
    I speak generally here but this is what the girls expect. They will be disrespected in every way, they will have to beg for their money, they will be paid the absolute minimum, they will have to store any money in another safe room, they will feel humiliated after the session.
    Strippers have another problem with Indian men; a lap dance will be paid for and then the gentleman will boast to all his friends that he had full sex with all the trimmings. This of course puts the establishment’s license in jeopardy and puts enormous pressure on the other girls as the mates go through.

    Be it culture or whatever this is reality

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  16. dime (8,778 comments) says:

    safesally – i hear the same things from friends in aussie.

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  17. kowtow (6,717 comments) says:

    Al Jazeera doco on at the moment Muslims in France.

    One guy boasting how “hetero” he was,in context he was saying he screwed lots of Fr birds. He said among the wogs there they have an expression that the Frogs wouldn’t understand…..”Wog meat” is how these charming westernised oriental gentlemen described any Fr girl who fucked them.

    “Wog meat”,and he was using that term in a boastful,arrogant context……

    is that racism?

    Don’t believe me? Check it out yourselves.

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  18. Jack5 (4,223 comments) says:

    The Indians guys I’ve encountered have been pleasant folk.

    However, many of the Indian girls are awesome – attractive and well dressed, intelligent and well educated, friendly and polite yet confident, and with a strong grasp of English. Perhaps we should allow in twenty Indian single women immigrants for every Indian male immigrant.

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  19. altiora (14 comments) says:

    Safesally raises the point that needs to be discussed: when (and should we) point out that certain ethnic groups (and I include Pakeha) exhibit certain behaviours?

    There seems to be a double standard: if a few Pakeha act disgracefully to members of another ethnic group, then this is taken as evidence of racism — both the individuals concerned and also pakeha society as a whole. It seems also to be acceptable to point out undesirable behaviour by one ethnic group if pakeha can be blamed for this behaviour. So we see high Maori imprisonment rates being attributed to “institutionalised racism” (an inherently nonsensical concept, and one that ignores that such alleged racism couldn’t have caused the criminal offending in the first instance and that it is mainly Maori who are the victims of Maori offending).

    Yet we can’t observe that, time and time again, Maori children are being abused and neglected. If we do this, then the debate is then framed as “you are saying that all Maori abuse or neglect their children, and that no pakeha abuse or neglect their children, so therefore you are wrong and racist”. So we see also in the UK, Pakistani men grooming white girls for rape due to their perceptions that such girls are “easy meat”. Any attempt to point this obvious fact out was dismissed as racism or by saying “this isn’t a race issue”.

    Yet to me, so long as there is a factual basis that certain ethnic groups exhibit certain behaviours, we should be able to acknowledge this — provided that it is part of a rational debate and not used to justify racial denigration (which is where this facebook arguable falls foul). Because it seems to me that recognising such facts will better identify the solution to the problem.

    I suspect that we will be forced to confront this issue more and more as immigration from non-western countries increases. And let’s face it (as the Dutch now have to now) some immigrants do not share or understand western liberal values towards women and minority groups. The question is how do we keep such out, because I certainly don’t want hard won values of gender equality and minority rights in this country to be compromised.

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  20. kowtow (6,717 comments) says:

    But…….look.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2014/01/death-gang-rape-victim-angers-indians-20141218270638608.html

    Why does Bombay have women only trains?

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  21. Colville (1,779 comments) says:

    I owned an sheetmetal workshop for a dozen or so years, we did a lot of resturant work.
    If you has quoted a job for an Indian and he came back to you looking to get on with it you knew he has shopped your price to a couple of others trying to beat it and he wanted you to beat that better price. There was an additional margin to account for this and there was always a problem with the final account. Always.

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  22. Jack5 (4,223 comments) says:

    Anyone disturbed by a changing tone apparent in discussion of immigration might ponder whether this would have happened if the second great ethnic re-engineering of NZ had been thoroughly discussed, debated, and generally thrashed out – perhaps even voted on.

    Instead discussion, comments, and questions have usually been smothered into silence with overt or covert put-downs that anything but blind acceptance of multiculturalism and ethnic change is “racism”.

    (The first great ethnic change came, of course, with European contact culminating in the Treaty of Waitangi.)

    If we had had such a thorough airing of the latest change, we still might have had ethnic change, but people would have been much happier with it.

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  23. RichardX (292 comments) says:

    kowtow (6,073 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 5:05 pm
    Why does Bombay have women only trains?

    The problem is not unique to India Kowtow and neither is the solution

    Women-only passenger cars are railway or subway cars intended for women only. They are offered on some trains in Japan, Egypt, India, Iran, Taiwan, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, the Philippines, Malaysia and Dubai, while passengers in some other countries have demanded their introduction. Women-only buses were implemented in Mexico City in 2008.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-only_passenger_car

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  24. wiseowl (577 comments) says:

    Altiora.
    No such thing as a pakeha.

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  25. Colville (1,779 comments) says:

    BTW.
    Carl Cox is a heavy techno/house DJ… West Indian pom from memory.
    He is on my ipod !
    He is in Wellybum next week.

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  26. Manolo (12,636 comments) says:

    Indians are lovely people. Now try to deal with the Pakis. :D

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  27. altiora (14 comments) says:

    @wiseowl: substantive comment are appreciated, not obsessing over labels please.

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  28. altiora (14 comments) says:

    @Jack5 that is the problem: we can’t have a sensible debate about immigration and, as a result, we’re doomed to repeat the disasterous European experiment.

    At the heart of it is white liberal elites who have some weird self-loathing of their own culture (if they even acknowledge we have one), and think other cultures are needed in order to “enrich us”. I’ve forgotten the number of times I’ve heard some Wellingtonian saying “[insert town or city in the South Island], it was lovely but so white”. Such persons would scream racism if I wrote off a place as “so brown”.

    As Douglas Murry in the UK observes, when you shut down such debate then it results in ethnic tensions and the immigration issue being highjacked by extremist politicians.

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  29. ManuT (33 comments) says:

    We too have quoted a lot of work for Indian business owners and in almost every instance our quotations have been passed on to opposition companies; we have of course received opposition quotes as well. Very few jobs eventuate from these quotes; quotations cost time and resources which is paid for by actual customers. Chasing final payment is also a problem.
    Our companies position is that we no longer quote on work for Indian business; less hassle, less ag and better business performance.
    We would change this policy if Indian women were in charge; they seem to have the honour lacking in so many of their men.

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  30. artemisia (194 comments) says:

    As others have said above, our business is very wary of quoting on jobs for Indian men for the same reasons. Always put as little effort into the quote as possible. Seldom been proved wrong. Do have good ongoing relationships with a couple of Indian women though.

    On a personal note, over the years, I’ve been harassed by Indian men more often than any others by a long way.

    A friend in Melbourne was regularly harassed and touched by a group of Indian men congregating near her apartment. She was told by an Indian female co-worker to call them ‘brother’. They backed off immediately. So, some cultural element then.

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  31. kowtow (6,717 comments) says:

    RichardX

    Never said it was unique to India…..but in the context of this discussion is surely more than relevant?

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  32. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    Hilarious, a post meant to denounce racism becomes a thread where posters get to reinforce each others racial prejudices.

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  33. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    Are Indians the ones that eat their cats?

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  34. Jack5 (4,223 comments) says:

    Relative to the debate in this thread is a Spectator James Dellingpole piece this week on discussion on immigration policy and its suppression in Britain. Dellingpole has the BBC in his sights for a programme called The Truth about Immigration.

    Dellingpole’s piece, free to Internet readers, previews an article that will appear in the January 14 edition of the Spectator.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/01/the-bbc-tried-but-failed-to-present-a-genuine-critique-of-britains-disastrous-immigration-policy/

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  35. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    RichardX (190 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 5:19 pm

    Why does Bombay have women only trains?

    The problem is not unique to India Kowtow and neither is the solution

    I am fairly certain there are women only sessions at the Aquatic Center in Kilbirnie and women only gyms are quite common in New Zealand. I’m fairly sure those institutions don’t exist so women can avoid Indian men.

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  36. safesally (36 comments) says:

    Oh Yoza

    Find something else to do with your hand and stop embarrassing yourself

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  37. nasska (9,541 comments) says:

    ….”Find something else to do with your hand and stop embarrassing yourself”….

    Yoza is a master of the art…..he can swap hands without losing the beat. :)

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  38. Jack5 (4,223 comments) says:

    Yoza the Red arrives to defend multiculturalism (7.23 and 7.24 posts) and lecture posters on racism.

    This is the Yoza who in Kiwiblog has described his own thought as being influenced chiefly by the Bakunin, whose version of the socialist Utopia was “collective anarchism”.

    Bakunin was a racist. Here is a quote of Bakunin, via Wikipedia:

    This whole Jewish world, comprising a single exploiting sect, a kind of blood sucking people, a kind of organic destructive collective parasite, going beyond not only the frontiers of states, but of political opinion, this world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other… This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralisation of the state. And where there is centralisation of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, speculating with the Labour of the people, will be found.

    Interestingly, Yoza in Kiwiblog has also (July 22 last) described Karl Marx as one of the world’s three greatest economists (with Adam Smith and Keynes the other two).

    Yoza has a number of times alleged racism against the West in its minor wars in the Cold War.

    I don’t recall his ever talking of the racism of Stalin (against the Chechens, Crimean Tatars, and Volga Germans for example), or against Mao (against Tibetans and Uighurs, for example).

    Yoza, your judgment on whether a statement is racist, has half the going value of a nob of goat shit.

    PS: Yoza, where do you stand on anti-Semitism?

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  39. MH (558 comments) says:

    the reason why there are women only trains in bombay is because all the mixed ones are in Mumbai.

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  40. hmmokrightitis (1,458 comments) says:

    jack5, post of the month, well said.

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  41. srylands (301 comments) says:

    “I am fairly certain there are women only sessions at the Aquatic Center in Kilbirnie and women only gyms are quite common in New Zealand. I’m fairly sure those institutions don’t exist so women can avoid Indian men.”

    No they exist so women can avoid Indian men.

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  42. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    safesally (19 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 7:39 pm

    Oh Yoza

    Find something else to do with your hand and stop embarrassing yourself

    I found it particularly ironic that someone who so recently accused me of being racist for being a critic of US foreign policy comes out with this racist diatribe:

    To get to the point we can easily divide these groups by race in Auckland; I will not do that in this forum with the exception of Indian men.
    I speak generally here but this is what the girls expect. They will be disrespected in every way, they will have to beg for their money, they will be paid the absolute minimum, they will have to store any money in another safe room, they will feel humiliated after the session.
    Strippers have another problem with Indian men; a lap dance will be paid for and then the gentleman will boast to all his friends that he had full sex with all the trimmings. This of course puts the establishment’s license in jeopardy and puts enormous pressure on the other girls as the mates go through.

    Be it culture or whatever this is reality

    What an idiot.

    Jack5 (3,865 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    Yoza the Red arrives to defend multiculturalism (7.23 and 7.24 posts) and lecture posers on racism.

    Jack, I am fairly certain David Farrar posted the DJ’s out burst to highlight unacceptable racist attitudes, I wonder if he was surprised to see the thread descend into an opportunity for a bunch of muppets to vent their personal prejudices.

    This is the Yoza who in Kiwiblog has described his own thought as being influenced chiefly by the Bakunin, whose version of the socialist Utopia was “collective anarchism”.

    Bakunin was a racist. Here is a quote of Bakunin, via Wikipedia: …

    Anti-Jewish sentiment was wide spread throughout Europe during Bakunin’s time, Karl Marx, who was also of Jewish descent wrote disparaging comments about Jews. Yes, it was an appalling attitude. Bakunin is more famous for his writing on anarchism – Noam Chomsky (a Jew who is well aware of Bakunin’s anti-Jewish diatribes) has an extensive quote in the preface of his collection of essays For Reasons of State.

    Interestingly, Yoza in Kiwiblog has also (July 22 last) described Karl Marx as one of the world’s three greatest economists (with Adam Smith and Keynes the other two).

    Was it ‘the greatest’? From memory I think I may have described them as the three most influential, I would continue to stand by this position.

    Yoza has a number of times alleged racism against the West in its minor wars in the Cold War.

    Poor, dark skinned people have been historically regarded as subhuman in Western culture and sending in the military to invade their countries and slaughter them in their millions is generally celebrated as a heroic pursuit in the mainstream media, Iraq and Afghanistan being but the latest examples of this particular manifestation of violent western arrogance.

    I don’t recall his ever talking of the racism of Stalin (against the Chechens, Crimean Tatars, and Volga Germans for example), or against Mao (against Tibetans and Uighurs, for example).

    Stalin and Mao were totalitarian despots, their crimes are celebrated in the West. Why should I join in?

    Yoza, your judgment on whether a statement is racist, has half the going value of a nob of goat shit.

    Heh, and yet you have gone to quite some length to undermine that judgement. Nice find on Bakunin’s anti-Jewish rants, btw, I wasn’t sure anyone on Kiwiblog was ever going to mention that.

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  43. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    Jack5 (3,865 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 7:51 pm

    PS: Yoza, where do you stand on anti-Semitism?

    The Palestinians are a Semitic people and anyone familiar with the Kiwiblog pro-IDF threads would know I am highly critical of the treatment of Palestinians at the hands of the Israeli state.

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  44. safesally (36 comments) says:

    Yoza

    There is a difference between stating facts as you see them and being a down right hater which you are. You are just another little man ashamed of his own skin. We see your kind all the time.

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  45. cha (3,539 comments) says:

    We see your kind all the time.

    Who are these we you speak of?.

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  46. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    safesally (20 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Yoza

    There is a difference between stating facts as you see them and being a down right hater which you are. You are just another little man ashamed of his own skin. We see your kind all the time.

    You come across as a little confused, Sally. Could you be a little more specific about stating which facts makes me a hater and why.

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  47. BlairM (2,266 comments) says:

    Yes, racism and stereotyping are bad, mkay? But we all know what “most” Indian men are like. We know that they, generally, are the most sexist, obnoxious pigs on the planet. If you’re an Indian man and you respect women and do everything right, then I apologise for tarnishing you. But your fellow countrymen are vile, and you know it.

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  48. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    cha (3,138 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    Who are these we you speak of?

    This ‘we’ perhaps:

    BlairM

    But we all know what “most” Indian men are like. We know that they, generally, are the most sexist, obnoxious pigs on the planet.

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  49. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    Poor, dark skinned people have been historically regarded as subhuman in Western culture and sending in the military to invade their countries and slaughter them in their millions is generally celebrated as a heroic pursuit in the mainstream media, Iraq and Afghanistan being but the latest examples of this particular manifestation of violent western arrogance.

    Funny, I seem to recall that most people (civilians) slaughtered in Iraq were killed by Arab terrorists. It was the westerners who were doing their best to protect them – until Obama withdrew, now we can all witness the Iraqi army failing to do the job.

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  50. scrubone (2,971 comments) says:

    If a club keeps groups of creepy men out, you’d congratulate them.

    In this case (if I have this right) the group was Indian and they were accused of racism.

    It makes a lot more sense from that angle I’d say. He didn’t say he was keeping out Indians, just the creepy ones. Of course, the “rapist” tag is gratuitous so there’s that…

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  51. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    scrubone (2,875 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 9:53 pm
    .Funny, I seem to recall that most people (civilians) slaughtered in Iraq were killed by Arab terrorists.

    As far as I’m aware the majority of violent deaths were as a consequence of airstrikes, only one side was capable of carrying out airstrikes.

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  52. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    As far as I’m aware the majority of violent deaths were as a consequence of airstrikes, only one side was capable of carrying out airstrikes.

    Nope, apparently airstrikes accounted for something like 13% of violent deaths.

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  53. Yoza (1,352 comments) says:

    scrubone (2,876 comments) says:
    January 9th, 2014 at 10:00 pm

    If a club keeps groups of creepy men out, you’d congratulate them.

    In this case (if I have this right) the group was Indian and they were accused of racism.

    It makes a lot more sense from that angle I’d say. He didn’t say he was keeping out Indians, just the creepy ones. Of course, the “rapist” tag is gratuitous so there’s that…

    Just to recap, scrubone, this is his comment:

    “Just because we don’t let groups of creepy Indian rapists into the club doesn’t make us racist, they also don’t buy alcohol. Probably so they can be sober enough to tie up the sack and lift the body into the back of their hybrid taxi, while wearing oversized leather jackets and sports shoes”

    The subtext is obvious, he knows these guys are rapists because they are Indian. Besides, it isn’t the only time he has singled out Indians for attention:

    Former posts on Andrews’ personal Facebook page also specifically refer to Indians. “How do Noel Lemmings (sic) advertise for staff? “Wanted, greasy, creepy Indian men with zero knowledge of electronics for exciting retail career” I think the ones that don’t make it automatically get employed at Burger King.” – A personal Facebook status posted December 24, 2013 by Andrews.

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  54. TheContrarian (1,043 comments) says:

    Colville:
    “Carl Cox is a heavy techno/house DJ…”

    Carl Cox heavy techno? Please, he plays wishy washy tech house. He ain’t playing techno that’s for sure.

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  55. albertlal111 (3 comments) says:

    We all know How many Pakiha girls are happy to make out after getting drunk? It is obvious that perhaps some Fiji Indians get carried away in haste looking at all the drunk European girls open to sex in these clubs. Next morning these women get nausea after realizing they got too close with a dark man.

    Look who’s talking! Molested or raped by family is ok by Caucasians. It will heal. Drunk woman arm held by a drunk indian is a scar because he is ‘dark and thick’ as commonly referred to in New Zealand. Moreover it is funny to read his comments over Indians working for Noel Leeming. He should see how many Caucasians pass out from school. 99.9% of the kiwi work force has undereducated whites working at management positions

    Fortunate not to be white!

    Lets see how many people vote for this rude but true comment!

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  56. jakejakejake (128 comments) says:

    How bitter you must be albertial that a caucasian can pass out from school, still get paid more than 99.9% of India’s population and not have to sell his daughter into arranged marriage aka sexual slavery for a cow and a jar of turmeric.

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  57. slightlyrighty (2,448 comments) says:

    Can anyone tell me who the author of this quote was?

    “We could understand not being classed with whites, but to be placed on the same level as the Natives seemed too much to put up with. Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized — the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live like animals.”

    The answer may surprise some. It was Mahatma Gandhi.

    As to the comment about Noel Leemings, and it’s over representation of Indian Staff, having worked in that industry, I can attest to some being hired more for the ability of being able to wheel and deal and not on their knowledge of the products they sell. My manager told me that when he advertised for a staff member, he received 3 identical CV’c from 3 separate Indian applicants where only the names were changed.

    Needless to say, non were hired.

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  58. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Would that be the same Gandhi who used to sleep naked with his underage nieces? (To ‘test’ his willpower)

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  59. Dean Papa (623 comments) says:

    TISM geniusness, although some of the references a little dated now … [NSFW: colourful language]

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  60. albertlal111 (3 comments) says:

    Jake we all know how mother England has taken care of New Zealand over the years with all the loot. Bitter or not, the truth remains that most of the kiwi whites prefer the same skin colour when it comes to jobs or socializing. Having lived with Caucasians for more than 10 years in Auckland I know that very well. Extremely stingy and poor hospitality are two more facets of a white kiwi man’s personality. If native language vocabulary makes you better than the rest I must admit how competent you all are.

    How many of you have a problem with fresh of the boat Europeans inability to speak fluent English!!

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  61. getreal (1 comment) says:

    Disapointing to see that a post highlighting the douche-baggery and racism of some prick in Wellington, has turned into a full scale attack on Indian men.

    Honestly some of the comments here are just retarded. Just because you have some anecdotal story about an Indian person you dealt with doesn’t make that a solid evidential basis for attacking a whole group of people. Its not a hard concept for you to grasp really.

    All the crooks stealing from granny in the finance company cases where all middle aged white males. Is that a basis for saying all white blokes are crooked scumbags? No of course not. The same applies to people of other races.

    As a centre right voter, I’m pretty disgusted to see how many bigots we have on our side of politics. If National wants to win in 2014, we will need every single hard working, conservative minded, aspirational Indian/Chinese voter we can get.

    National is a natural home for such immigrants who are well educated, work hard and want to get ahead. Lets not fuck it up, by defending racist douchebags.

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  62. albertlal111 (3 comments) says:

    I think this is a serious issue that has deeper roots than what Andrew’s Comments suggest. Caucasians have with age learnt the art of window dressing their sins at the cost of framing innocent fun loving people belonging to other races. Sex was never an issue; it is just the colour.

    The issue is grave because it is and always was inherent and deeply imbibed in the value system of the western white society. It is interesting to see Nda voicing it an finding a reason to raise a debate. This has resulted in so many people coming out of their shells and speaking out what they believe in.

    The solution to this global problem of racism starts at the Caucasian house where children learn how to respond to and behave with Indians or Asians, So if these people can write this much, one can only presume what all and to what extent they preach at home.

    Going to school and passing out with educated Indians can be a positive step in this direction.

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