General Debate 10 January 2014

January 10th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    ah, the truth is revealed.

    http://screencast.com/t/lvwMbnR1MTQ

    Water melons indeed.

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  2. Pete George (21,812 comments) says:

    Dunedin City councillor Jinty MacTavish suggests oil and gas is unethical, and she wants council guidelines that rule out using staff time or resources on anything deemed to be unethical.

    http://yournz.org/2014/01/09/oil-and-gas-unethical/

    But the same councillor wants a share of any royalties:

    Hence why I think I feel pretty comfortable with the DCC using resource to advocate for regional distribution of royalties.

    That’s pretty much the stance of the mayor as well, he wants royalties but wants to appear anti-drilling and is lukewarm (conflicted) on getting associated business in Dunedin.

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  3. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    Bevan was standing in the kitchen, preparing soft-boiled eggs and toast for breakfast, wearing only The ‘T’ shirt that she normally slept in.

    As Len walked in, almost awake, she turned to him and said softly, “You’ve got to make love to me this very moment!”

    Len’s eyes lit up and thought, “I am either still dreaming or this is going to be my lucky day!” Not wanting to lose the moment, he embraced her and then gave it all; right there on her kitchen table.

    Afterwards she said, “Thanks,” and returned to the stove, her T-shirt still around her neck.
    Happy, but a little puzzled, Len asked, “What was that all about?”

    Bevan explained, “The egg timer’s broken.”

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  4. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Ok, Manolo,
    you, or whoever thort that one up, deserves a Speights.

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  5. Keeping Stock (9,789 comments) says:

    Bevan obviously likes runny, soft-boiled eggs Manolo :D

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  6. RF (1,129 comments) says:

    Manolo. 8.04am. Spilt my bloody coffee. Tried to explain it to my wife but she did not get it. Hope it was not a one minute egg.

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  7. igm (864 comments) says:

    What’s the guts on this taxpayer-funded academic woofter Mason claiming we are not doing anything for climate change? When are we going to see the end of these deadbeat leftie tree-hugging losers . . . they give me the shits!

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  8. igm (864 comments) says:

    Sad to see Zac Guilford going overseas. This brilliant young back was totally stuffed by the foul Fairfax mob, they even had a go at his cousin . . . they are the sediment of media scum.

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  9. Colville (1,774 comments) says:

    igm, IMHO Zac was stuffed by his own actions. If he had sorted his piss drinking problem he would have been sweet. But in the mean time NZ has many great outside backs to choose from so he has lost his ABs spot, so its a great time for him to go and get the best $$$ for his skills, he can come back in a few years if he wants and have another go at the Black Jersy.

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  10. lilman (664 comments) says:

    PISS OFF, Guliford got treated more than fairly.
    I have played alot of sport and drunk more than most but I never belted and ruined others lives by my actions.
    So Zac can carry on as he sees fit but dont expect me to feel anything but apathy to his decisions.

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  11. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    How the hell can anybody claim that Guilford is a victim of the media when it was his very own actions that resulted in him being given the cold shoulder by the NZRU. Now I am far from the NZRU’s biggest cheerleader but Guilford is nothing more than a thug with a drinking problem, in times past his behaviour would have been swept under the carpet by the NZRU and the sycophantic rugby media, it would have been laughed off as “one of the boys letting off some steam” while the victim would have had to watch as Guilford got away scott free simply because he plays rugby.

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  12. sbk (299 comments) says:

    “When are we going to see the end of these deadbeat leftie tree-hugging losers”….when hell freezes over…and gauging by recent events…pretty soon.

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  13. Reid (15,544 comments) says:

    The story behind one of the finest Royal Navy VCs of the First World War:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/inside-first-world-war/part-five/10544345/vc-winner-commander-jones.html

    I heard some criticism yesterday about how it is one thing to release a memoir after the Administration and another to release it when it’s still going. Personally I think sunlight is always a good thing and the sooner its applied the better – it’s just a shame Powell didn’t do the same with Bush 43. Not that doing so makes any real difference, but it stops a few more from hallucinating and that’s never a bad thing.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/01/07/top-10-revelations-from-robert-gatess-memoir/

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  14. Yogibear (227 comments) says:

    igm – utter crap.

    Gilford got off comparatively lightly in the media. His ongoing behavior was far worse than, say Aaron Gilmore, and was probably only a drunken lapse of judgement off Russell Packer on more than one occasion.

    To put it into context, I’ve seen more than 1 All Black be outrageously obnoxious to waiting staff yet it rarely, if ever hits the media.

    And can you imagine the media storm if Gerry Brownlee rode around naked on a scooter in Rarotonga harassing and intimidating a young female triathlete.

    Great player, but don’t blame the media for his failures as a member of society.

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  15. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    big bruv (11,902 comments) says:

    January 10th, 2014 at 8:52 am
    *****

    Typical bullshit from someone without the slightest knowledge.
    If you wish to speak/write about such matters it would be useful to experience the goldfish bowl.
    Try it, and then come back.

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  16. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    flipper

    Was that a little close to the bone for you?

    Or are you simply somebody who will excuse any behaviour from an All Black?

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  17. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,786 comments) says:

    The Wolf of Wall Street.

    See it guys, see it.

    Laugh out loud moment. Auckland as a coda for ass end of no where moment at the end of the film.

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  18. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,786 comments) says:

    Sell me this pen! :lol:

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  19. Pete George (21,812 comments) says:

    Josie Pagani asks Has National fixed the economy yet? http://www.hasnationalfixedtheeconomyyet.com/

    Can the economy be fixed? Can the weather be fixed?

    Despite Josie’s effort to prove her leftish credentials she is fighting an uphill battle taking National on with the economy.

    Likewise Labour, who have to somehow convince voters they can manage the economy better than National despite having high spending coalition partners Greens and Mana.

    National may have some problems if they get too close to Colin Craig but the Conservatives don’t appear to be a threat to the economy.

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  20. duggledog (1,113 comments) says:

    Pete – what a bizarre link that is! What is she trying to prove / say? Doe she want a go at running NZ Inc?

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  21. iMP (2,152 comments) says:

    Meryl Streep’s rant against Walt Disney is misplaced. I’ve read the Dark prince and seen Saving Mr Banks (Hanks is an excellent Disney). Disney (a Norman name) died in 1966. He was not an anti-semite or anti-gender. Streep makes the mistake of selectively judging a man of the 40s by 2014 nuances. This is just stupid. Yes, he used the word “nigger” but so did everyone. Black people do so today. Soldiers during the war talked about yellow monkeys, are they all racist?

    Disney was a complex person, but overall contributed huge joy to the world. He had a terrible ghastly childhood.

    You cannot retrospectively judge historical figures by the nuances of your day. This is ignorant for which Streep gets no gongs.

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  22. Pete George (21,812 comments) says:

    This time a realistic and very perceptive Labour view. Jennie Michie blogs:

    More jobs, better pay and general happiness and prosperity for all, plus an all-important return to surplus for the government? Of course that’s what most of us want but, alas for Labour, it’s the last thing it needs in an election year.

    Because if the economy is doing well then the underlying message to voters is that the government must be doing well, so keep the government. Or as Colin Espiner puts it ‘voters will pick the devil they know, rather than turfing out a government in economic good times’.

    So the thing that Labour dare not hope for is for the economy to…well….um….tank.

    So what’s to be done now we’re entering NZ’s economic nirvana? A number of people, including me, have written at length about what we reckon what needs to be done to ensure a Labour win: strategy, communication, good policy, organisation and Election Day turnout, yadda, yadda, yadda. The bones of that don’t change depending on the economic situation, but the details might and I’m really hoping that Labour’s got its thinking cap on about how to handle this new crisis…. of a booming economy.

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/01/10/what-labour-dare-not-hope-for/

    A dilemma for Labour strategists.

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  23. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Meryl Streep- Yet another Actor who thinks his/her opinions are so important to us ‘little people’..

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  24. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    big bruv (11,903 comments) says:

    January 10th, 2014 at 9:17 am

    flipper

    Was that a little close to the bone for you?
    ****

    No…but I have looked thru the goldfish bowl from the inside. BEFORE taking that look I was given expert advice that helped me avoid the traps into which Guilford was both pushed by media, and fell on his own misguided accord.

    When you have the T Shirt Bruv, come back.

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  25. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    “in times past his behaviour would have been swept under the carpet by the NZRU and the sycophantic rugby media, it would have been laughed off as “one of the boys letting off some steam”

    Oh that still happens Bruv!
    I think they realised that not even their spin doctors and ‘old boys network’ could save punchy Zak after his Rarotonga rampage…

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  26. kowtow (6,709 comments) says:

    igm and climate change

    We won’t see the end of it.A fake Conservative,Cameron has blamed the recent winter storms on “climate change” when in fact it was due to the jet stream……
    I think Obanogo White House is also blaming their snow on climate change.

    Talking of treachery among the Conservative elite …….
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536107/Britain-accused-airbrushing-role-Anzac-troops-WWI-favour-New-Commonwealth-nations-promote-community-cohesion.html

    They won’t be commemorating the Munsters and Dublins from the SS River Clyde

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  27. Scott Chris (5,678 comments) says:

    in times past his behaviour would have been swept under the carpet by the NZRU and the sycophantic rugby media, it would have been laughed off as “one of the boys

    Tell that to Keith Murdoch.

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  28. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,786 comments) says:

    This

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  29. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    Scott Chris

    Murdoch got what he deserved. The fact that Murdoch decided to run away rather than own up to his thuggish behaviour (and the media) is a problem he created himself.
    Had Murdoch simply come home, apologised for assaulting an innocent security guard it would have been long forgotten.

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  30. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    flipper

    Oh come on now man!

    Guilford punched people when he was pissed, that is a statement of fact and still you try and insist that he was a victim of the media.
    Would you accept that behaviour from a labourer?, I would wager that you would not. Being an All Black should not allow one to break the law over and over again (and lets be really honest here, the two reported incidents would not be the only ones where Guilford has been pissed and thumped somebody)

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  31. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    Hamilton-based Labour list MP Sue Moroney and Hauraki-Waikato MP Nanaia Mahuta yesterday said they would be meeting with police to ensure the adults who provided the alcohol were held accountable.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9594624/Boy-symptom-of-booze-culture

    Say what ? Police should tell them politely to fuck off – who the fuck do they think they are ?

    Good job Labour exists to oversee the cops eh ?

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  32. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    sbk (285 comments) says:
    January 10th, 2014 at 8:55 am

    “When are we going to see the end of these deadbeat leftie tree-hugging losers”….when hell freezes over…and gauging by recent events…pretty soon.
    ======================

    Yep, I see this morning that the Niagara Falls have frozen over on the US side.
    BRRRR Great for the Greenies climate change.

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  33. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Here we go again.,..,

    The immigrant kick it with his head fool, LK, is at it again.
    Unless you really know what you are talking about, STFU.

    Murdoch was vilified by the Welsh and English media, and the class driven UK rugby unions, and got no support whatsoever from a weak NZRFU management team. Moreover, Frank Kilby, a retired bank manager, the AB team manager, was fatally ill at the time and quite unable to deal with what was nothing more than an over-zealous and smart arse rentacop bighting off much more, than he could chew.

    Murdoch took to outback Australia because he felt he had been victimised, and he had. And most unfairly
    Just let it go.

    So I repeat: when you really know what top level athletes (from all sports) go through with the media, which is much worse in 2014 than it was 50 odd year ago, come back.
    Until then STFU.

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  34. kowtow (6,709 comments) says:

    Drunk boy…….not long ago that would have been solely a matter for a couple of social workers ……police may have accompanied them into the ghetto for personal protection from the “community.”

    but our highly interventionist parliament has now created more laws to turn it into a police matter.

    Police state grows under our noses .

    Same thing with parental discipline.

    The other day the Greens wanted military intervention over a few mammals,today Labour want police action over a drunk child,where will it end?

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  35. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Flipper- Are you seriously trying to claim that all those All Blacks who have been convicted of crimes (ranging from vicious assaults, to drunk driving, to even Seal murder!) in recent years are ‘Victims of the media’???
    Seriously?

    Fuck you are the drooling fanboy aren’t you?

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  36. Nostalgia-NZ (4,688 comments) says:

    BB.

    ‘Innocent security guard’ more like a boof head, cry baby, motor mouth. Keep those adjectives coming, they must convince somebody.

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  37. big bruv (12,359 comments) says:

    Nos

    So when you get punched by an All Black thug and ask for something to be done about it (without pressing charges as the man should have done) then you are a cry baby?

    Should the security guard have been pleased to be punched?, is it some sort of honour to be assaulted by an All Black? (one who runs away rather than facing up to what he has done?)

    Lets face it, the only cry baby was Murdoch.

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  38. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Earth to kick it with his head LK….

    Flipper makes no claim on this matter that cannot be backed by fact.

    Any person, AB or not, guilty of a crime, and prosecuted, must suffer the consequences. But penalties should be equal for all, given similar circumstances,. If you claim they are, be they in the case of current or former ABs, or other leading athletes, then you really have caught the Colorado disease early.

    But even silly people, whose brains have been mushed and concussed by kicking a ball with their head, should understand that there is a vast difference between a crime/offence and a media “beat up”.

    Just go away, you pathetic fool.

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  39. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    ‘Soccer vs Rugby’ arguments haven’t been cool since Standard Four Flipper….
    (By the way- I played Rugby for twenty odd years..never played football in my life)

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  40. skyblue (193 comments) says:

    This is just unbeliveable, from the Telegraphin UK:

    Government accused of ‘social engineering’ over WW1 plans.

    The government is hit by another row over its plans for the First World War centenary, amid accusations it is “whitewashing” the contributions of Australians and New Zealanders, in favour of those of black and Asian servicemen.

    Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/10561430/Government-accused-of-social-engineering-over-WW1-plans.html

    Political Correctness gone right to the top of Whitehall. UK want to appease sooty and camel humpers, not recognise ANZACs.

    Maybe we should become a republic based on this, we knowhow welcome we are.

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  41. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Longknives (3,670 comments) says:

    January 10th, 2014 at 10:44 am
    ****

    Well,
    I withdraw and apologise for that assumption…….

    But may be it was where you played that infected you with that peculiar, anti NZ/AB disease.
    :-)

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  42. Nostalgia-NZ (4,688 comments) says:

    My memory may be spare on the details BB. But I recall it was over a bar shutting or taking drinks back to a room – something easily handled with discretion. But the Welshman thought he had a point to make and got punched for it, and later went to the press. So I guess if the future of Wales was dependent on the bouncer stopping Murdoch having another beer to the point that the bouncer needed to physically sort it out rather than go to the AB management, or simply put it in context, then yes the bouncer was a cry baby, what he couldn’t do with his fists he did by bleating to the papers. I don’t think Murdoch ever commented on the incident but about 3 years ago the Captain of the time said they he regretted not having supported Murdoch.

    Murdoch clearly has his own demons but punching a Welshman wannabe bovver boy doesn’t rate, I would have like to have seen the progress of his career rather than it having been lost over a punch that didn’t even warrant police charges.

    Guildford is a different era and there are different expectations but on any scale Zac’s behaviour rates by far worse than what we know of Murdochs. Of course in the earlier era many small and not so small matters were sorted out by fists, not by riding naked on vespas. I remember that he lost his dad when playing in the Junior World Cup so cut his some slack over that, hopefully he’ll mature and move on.

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  43. kowtow (6,709 comments) says:

    skyblue

    This has been going on for years in various guises.

    They put out a “discussion “paper a few years back on flag flying from govt buildings……the upshot was it was OK for the queer flag to be flown therefrom…fucking unbelievable.

    As to a republic…..don’t go down that road cos of a few sell outs in Whitehall ,the ordinary people of Britain see what’s going on and change is coming……sadly as Enoch said ,like the old Roman……….

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  44. wally (58 comments) says:

    “Frank Kilby, a retired bank manager, the AB team manager, was fatally ill at the time”

    Wasn’t it Ernie Todd?

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  45. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    I must’ve qualified for the new ‘living electricity’ rate….

    Total amount due $2.90

    I shit you not. Let’s hear it for the old actual reading.

    Account date 25 Dec. Should I send Santa a thank you note ?

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  46. dirty harry (240 comments) says:

    “welcome to nz whitey”…

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/9595870/Lifelong-damage-for-attacked-tourist

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  47. alwyn (359 comments) says:

    flipper @ 10.11am

    I’m not sure that we should pay too much attention to your comments on the Keith Murdoch affair given your inability to get even some of the basic facts correct.
    Frank Kilby had been a banker, and an All Black tour manager to Britain. That tour was however in 1963-64.
    The tour which Murdoch was on was the one in 1972-73 and had as the manager Ernie Todd.
    Good try, but no cigar.

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  48. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Alwyn..

    My error…
    And thank you, so I correct myself, Ernie Todd was ill.

    .

    But Nos got the issue in perspective. It was actually the culmination of several incidents all of minor proportion.

    There was an altercation between Murdoch and a rentacop who tried to stop KM entering the hotel kitchen for an early morning snack. Todd came upon the scene and told Murdoch he was to be sent home – something Todd had been pressured to for several days before by “The Rugby Union” (aka England). The floored rentacop was simply the excuse he sought.

    Upon hearing that, according to the scribe, Murdoch turned to Todd and said ” Well i may as well do something to justify that” (paraphrased,) and then walloped the rentacop on the jaw.

    The whole AB team was told next morning while in a bus en-route to training.

    TP McLean did the original warts and all, and Bob Howitt covered it in detail in “All Black Greats”. Check out Page 329 in particular.

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  49. alwyn (359 comments) says:

    Flipper, you are that most unusual of people who comment on blogs.
    You actually admit it when you make what is, on re-reading, a pretty minor error.
    I was a bit harsh in my criticism. I guess it was the fact that I knew Frank Kilby that made me react .

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  50. backster (2,000 comments) says:

    Sky Blue…….Let’s not forget Gunga Din.

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  51. alwyn (359 comments) says:

    left right and centre @ 11.06am.
    I’m afraid that the delivery service to Santa at the North Pole has been shut down. Something to do with the results of global warming making it too hard for the poor reindeer doing the delivery service.
    I can actually top your result. I travel for periods of four or five weeks several times a year. While away the only power being used is to keep the refrigerator and freezer running.
    If I get an estimate during this time, and an actual reading later on, I quite regularly, at least once a year, get an actual reading that is LESS than the estimate. I have used less power in two months than was estimated for a single month. Thus I get a credit amount on the actual reading statement and they owe me money. Luckily their computer systems seem to be able to handle it and don’t assume the meter has rolled over to a new cycle.

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  52. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    Alwyn…
    No preening, I promise. But if wrong, it is best to say so.
    Incidentally, I also had a vague Kilby connection. His daughter (forget xtian name, but the one who married rugby league’s Colin O’Neill) once worked with me in Wellington.
    H A N D
    F

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  53. Sofia (780 comments) says:

    Former accountant Graham McCready has Auckland Mayor Len Brown in his sights for his next legal endeavour and plans to file papers against him next week for corruption and electoral fraud.

    The action relates to nearly $40,000 worth of free rooms and hotel upgrades Mr Brown failed to declare to the Auckland City Council and $750,000 donations to Mr Brown’s last two local body elections through a trust the New Auckland Council Trust.

    As an ongoing circus, how much will this detract from Brown performing his work?

    You should still follow the example of your pants, Len Brown, and step down

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  54. duggledog (1,113 comments) says:

    Hilarious to see the would-be Australian boat refugees who were taken back to Indo interviewed on 3 News last night. ‘We were held down and treated badly and lied to!’ etc…

    Said the Somalians.

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  55. Eisenhower (134 comments) says:

    Everyone in Norway is now a millionaire, thanks to oil.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/business/norway-everyone-now-millionaire-thanks-oil-2D11884040

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  56. Viking2 (10,723 comments) says:

    We had a thunderstorm last night. Some good pics as it was spectacular. Lot of cloud to cloud lightning rather than cloud to ground.

    http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/61792-thunderstorm-caught-on-camera.html#prettyPhotogallery1/0/

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  57. Reid (15,544 comments) says:

    Fukushima Update.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CI_KExaudxk

    But let’s just focus on celeb goings-on, that’s much more important, after all, they’re celebrities.

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  58. dime (8,752 comments) says:

    “So when you get punched by an All Black thug and ask for something to be done about it (without pressing charges as the man should have done) then you are a cry baby?”

    First off, there are no all black thugs.

    Secondly, it would be a goddam honor to be punched by an all black. The elite of the elite in world sport

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  59. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    “The elite of the elite in world sport”

    Except nobody outside New Zealand knows or cares who any of the self professed ‘Greatest Sports Team in the History of the Universe’ actually are..
    I love Rugby but it isn’t even a blip on the radar of the ‘World’ Sports scene…

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  60. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Lets pick the biggest Countries in the World- China,India, Russia, The States, Brazil etc
    You think Richie McCaw is even going to get recognised walking down the street in those Countries? Surely if he was the captain of ‘The Greatest Sports team EVER’ he would be mobbed wouldn’t he??

    Seems it’s not only the All Blacks that are laughably arrogant and deluded, it has seemingly rubbed off onto their fans as well…

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  61. RRM (8,988 comments) says:

    I’ve just learned a GREAT way of making money!

    You don’t send your client any invoice for services rendered, and you never send them any subsequent reminders or follow-up.

    You just keep adding a percent “overdue fee” onto the account each month.

    But remember, DON’T send the invoice! And NEVER send any reminders or overdue notices!

    Then, after three or four years when the amount has (say) doubled, THAT’S the time to hit them with the bill.

    If you’ve done three or four separate jobs for them, do this for all of them at the same time.

    Seems fair and reasonable!?

    You have to be the IRD though….

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  62. Reid (15,544 comments) says:

    Great commercial.

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  63. Fletch (5,723 comments) says:

    Everyone in Norway is now a millionaire, thanks to oil.

    That reminds me – a Saudi prince made a comment the other day that he was worried that Western countries could find their own oil if they wanted (which they can) and not be so beholden to the Middle East for oil.

    Saudi Arabia’s Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, a billionaire businessman and nephew of Saudi King Abdullah, said the production of shale oil and natural gas in the United States and other countries, primarily done through fracking, is a real competitive threat to “any oil-producing country in the world,” adding that Saudi Arabia must address the issue because it is a “matter of survival.”

    New shale oil discoveries “are threats to any oil-producing country in the world,” said Prince Alwaleed in an interview with The Globe and Mail. “It is a pivot moment for any oil-producing country that has not diversified. Ninety-two percent of Saudi Arabia’s annual budget comes from oil. Definitely it is a worry and a concern.”

    Prince Alwaleed has been warning about the threat posed by fracking shale in places such as the United States and Russia for some time. Back in May 2013, in an open letter to the Saudi oil minister, Ali al Naimi, as translated from Arabic by the Wall Street Journal, Prince Alwaleed said, “With all due respect to your Highness’ viewpoint about shale gas and that it poses no danger on Saudi economy at ‘the present time,’ I was hoping that your Highness would also shed light and focus on the danger of this matter in the ‘not-so-distant future,’ especially that America and some Asian countries made big discoveries in shale gas extraction which will affect the oil industry around the world in general and Saudi Arabia in particular.”

    “It is necessary to diversify sources of revenue, establish a clear vision for that and start implementing it immediately,” said the prince, who added, “we see that raising North American shale gas production is an inevitable threat.”

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/saudi-billionaire-prince-fracking-competitively-threatens-any-oil#sthash.dJzFXf2L.dpuf

    So, we in the West could be doing more to find oil ourselves rather than be buying it off the Saudis and other Middle Eastern countries. But, we don’t seem to want to – or maybe it’s the Greenies holding us back.

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  64. Nookin (2,887 comments) says:

    “You think Richie McCaw is even going to get recognised walking down the street in those Countries? Surely if he was the captain of ‘The Greatest Sports team EVER’ he would be mobbed wouldn’t he??”

    Be fair.
    We all look the same to the Chinese

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  65. dime (8,752 comments) says:

    Longknives – the greatest, most successful team on the planet. Deal with it :)

    Richie was on letterman ffs! a hit!

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  66. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    And to think the much-maligned Cambo was on the Letterman Show as an actual guest!
    So was Scott Dixon from memory….

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  67. dime (8,752 comments) says:

    “And to think the much-maligned Cambo was on the Letterman Show as an actual guest!
    So was Scott Dixon from memory….”

    both champions!

    not as great as the all blacks but who is

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  68. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    alwyn – very good. Yes – for people like yourself – interesting to read.

    But I don’t ever leave the house – I need to be near KB at all times. So it’s a fairly rare occurrence for me whereas in your circumstances it makes perfect sense and is to be expected.

    I’m sure I get only the occasional less than $100 actual reading – not too many. The record might’ve previously been $27.. ??

    More interesting is that I felt the need to pay the $2.90 when of course it makes no real difference whether or not it becomes overdue. It must be the principle. Great social experiment.

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  69. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    LK – Scotty was on Letterman at least once – this year I think because he won his open-wheel whatever that shit is he does – I saw it – and he might’ve been on there a few times. Probably seeing as he won in the past too. And Dave being a team owner of something racing related – perfect match – will always go well.

    edit: And by this year I of course don’t mean this year at all.

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  70. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11183894

    Bain gets married.

    Planning to grow his own victims

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  71. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    Longknives,

    I believe Dime has you hooked on 24 kg gear, you might have the odd run, but you will tire and he will get you to the boat

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  72. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    “Bain gets married.”

    That must be why Judith/Rowan is conspicuously absent from Kiwiblog today..
    Wiping away the tears in the back rows?

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  73. Rowan (1,729 comments) says:

    Oh poor LK
    Did you miss out on your invite?
    Grow up you stupid fool!

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  74. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    Put your I-phone away Rowan you are at a Wedding man!
    You wouldn’t want to make David angry now would you?
    You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry…

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  75. dirty harry (240 comments) says:

    Anyone feel that gentle earthquake just 2 minutes ago in Christchurch ?

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  76. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    Lk – you whistle and one of them turns up – wow…. and I’m so tired of this (or is it I never tire if this?) grow up, ya big grip nong diddle fluffer :)

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  77. Rowan (1,729 comments) says:

    Unlike you and the rest of the JFRB cult Longknives I don’t stalk people or turn up univited to weddings like the various media trolls who turned up.

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  78. Rowan (1,729 comments) says:

    Dirty Harry
    Yes
    First one in quite a while.

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  79. Longknives (4,048 comments) says:

    L,R&C- It’s akin to saying ‘Candyman’ three times while facing a mirror…

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  80. Pauleastbay (5,030 comments) says:

    still waiting for “I did” – that’s the real story not this mawkish crap.

    Fran O’Sullivan on Twitter re: Bain

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  81. Left Right and Centre (2,393 comments) says:

    I’m going to join in this Bain shit. Let’s say – hypothetically – he did it, and right now he says ‘I did it – come what may I don’t care’.

    What would happen next ? He’s served some kind of sentence – what would likely happen ? Come on you know-it-all nerds…. :)

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  82. J Bloggs (100 comments) says:

    LR&C: He definitely wouldn’t get his compo claim……

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  83. muggins (2,901 comments) says:

    If Bain admitted to murdering his family he might be arrested and asked to serve out his time. But who would know.
    What would really be interesting is what would Karam have to say if David Bain confessed. And, of course,to a lesser degree, Justice Binnie.
    The mind boggles.

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  84. flipper (3,270 comments) says:

    *** “The mind boggles. ” ***

    Muggins you are a very sick puppy and in need of care,.

    The vet may find that the best course of action, to alleviate your troubled mind, is to “put you down.”

    Why not consult a Vet?

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  85. muggins (2,901 comments) says:

    flipper,
    Havn’t those men in white coats come to take you away yet?
    And I don’t have a troubled mind, my mind is quite clear. Robin Bain did not commit suicide, bet on it.

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  86. Manolo (12,626 comments) says:

    An ungrateful crook from a forgettable hellhole, who will, sooner than later, be offered justice religion-of-peace-style by the Taliban: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/09/afghanistan-reportedly-releasing-72-prisoners-considered-security-threat-by-us/

    Afghan President Hamid Karzai said the country is going to release all but 16 of 88 prisoners considered a security threat by the United States.

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  87. Gosman (335 comments) says:

    Thought I better link my recent post at Keeping stock here especially considering I did use DPF’s post to further my argument. Hope you don’t mind Mr Farrar.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/one-of-lefts-inconvenient-truths.html

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  88. Scott Chris (5,678 comments) says:

    Noticed on the news that the guy who crash landed his plane on some local beach then crashed it again trying to take off was called Dennis Horne

    Not our Dennis surely?

    If it was you Dennis, hope you’re okay though trying to take off with one wheel in the water didn’t seem like the best idea…

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  89. peterwn (2,935 comments) says:

    RPM re IRD etc.
    IRD does need to know there is income to assess before producing an assessment.
    I do agree however that IRD seems to be too tardy in following up late PAYE and GST returns. IMO employers should include IRD in their pay runs – ie pay PAYE, student loan, Kiwisaver etc on payday, not 20th of following month. Next best thing if no PAYE money received by the 20th, they should be on the blower to the employer immediately, and if not received a few days later they should send in the goon squad.

    Incidentally it can be worthwhile for councils and bodies corporate to not worry about payment of rates and BC fees respectively and can make it easier to deal with smart arses like Penny. When the property is finally sold, the purchaser’s solicitor will find out what is owing and will refuse to settle until they are paid.

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  90. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “Bain gets married.”

    Yes Bain is a killer – but he ain’t gay.

    Killers are allowed to get Married – under God’s Laws and Ceasar’s Laws.

    BTW – that new fella ‘Dirty Harry’ is not me! :cool:

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  91. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “…..The other day the Greens wanted military intervention over a few mammals,today Labour want police action over a drunk child,where will it end?…”

    Eventually the Chatham Islands for the likes of you and me Kowtow – NZ’s Siberia. :cool:

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  92. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    RRM (8,443 comments) says:
    January 10th, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    I’ve just learned a GREAT way of making money!

    ————————————-

    I’ve noticed your absence this past couple of months – are you now actually doing work on your employer’s computer instead of commenting all day?

    Thank fuck for that. :cool:

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  93. Harriet (4,010 comments) says:

    “….Or are you simply somebody who will excuse any behaviour from an All Black?…”

    Yep!

    Except sodomy. :cool:

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  94. Judith (5,660 comments) says:

    @ Harriet

    Sometimes you make me smile – deep down I think there is a comic fighting to get loose!

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  95. nasska (9,526 comments) says:

    During a jury selection process, the defence lawyer began his
    questioning as an intimidating showman. He looked over the
    prospective jurors and asked, “Do any of you here today
    dislike lawyers?”

    Before the pause became too long, the judge said, “I do.”

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  96. nasska (9,526 comments) says:

    …..”Eventually the Chatham Islands for the likes of you and me Kowtow – NZ’s Siberia.”…..

    Nah! Too luxurious. You will both be exiled to the Auckland Islands where you’ll have the choice of sodomy on alternative nights or the favours of a desperate sea lion. :)

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  97. Johnboy (13,402 comments) says:

    “BTW – that new fella ‘Dirty Harry’ is not me! :cool:

    We knew that darling. He’s far too sensible to be you! :)

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  98. stephieboy (1,138 comments) says:

    Reid Re your You Tube Fukushima video.

    One of the responses ,

    “Not going to happen! Our rulers (i.e., Jews, aka “kikes”) won’t allow it. Jews make a ton of money via nuclear power and petro fuels. Jews will never permit their easy cash cow to disappear.”

    Very in depth and perceptive, eh.!

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  99. Johnboy (13,402 comments) says:

    What a lovely couple David and Liz make Judith. They have matching teeth! :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9595893/David-Bain-has-tied-the-knot

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  100. Johnboy (13,402 comments) says:

    Evening minus! :)

    Do you have no life except KB? :)

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  101. RF (1,129 comments) says:

    Johnboy. I will come to your rescue with plus ticks. I still have the same bank account.

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  102. Johnboy (13,402 comments) says:

    To save you from staying up 24/7 waiting for me, why don’t you tell me what hours you like to be on duty with your red tick and I promise only to comment then! :)

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  103. Johnboy (13,402 comments) says:

    Your cheque is in the mail as usual RF! :)

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  104. Maggy Wassilieff (180 comments) says:

    @ Scott Chris…. if KB’s Dennis Horne is a Dentist from Howick, then he’s the pilot.
    news report said no-one was injured.
    One of the drawbacks of not operating under a pseudonym….

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  105. Jack5 (4,222 comments) says:

    New Zealand citizens (presumably ethnic Somalis) are reported to be fighting in Syria.

    Let’s hope Al Qaeda hasn’t recruited them. The New York Times reports:

    Islamic extremist groups in Syria with ties to Al Qaeda are trying to identify, recruit and train Americans and other Westerners who have traveled there to get them to carry out attacks when they return home, according to senior American intelligence and counterterrorism officials.

    I’m not sure if the report is behind the newspaper’s web paywall, but here goes:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/world/middleeast/syrian-groups-try-to-recruit-us-travelers.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20140110&_r=0

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  106. Reid (15,544 comments) says:

    One of the responses… …Very in depth and perceptive, eh.!

    stephie, you realise you’re the very first person I’ve ever encountered who, rather than respond to the video content that I posted, chooses instead to refer to the comments that other interweb users have made about the video.

    What?

    You think that says something, anything at all, about the actual content of the video?

    Are you completely mental, or are you just having a bad day?

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  107. stephieboy (1,138 comments) says:

    John boy
    Re matching teeth.
    Is it possible they may have matching fingerprints.?

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  108. Rowan (1,729 comments) says:

    Denny dunce the not so ‘expert’ pilot or dentist or pretty much any role he has given himself on KB, including pathology, urology, lawyer etc.
    Just a self proclaimed know it all arsewipe who judges anyone that does not share his deluded opinions.
    Good riddance to this arrogant twat.

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  109. stephieboy (1,138 comments) says:

    Reid when Dr Helen Cauldicott made an appearance on your video I got a tad skeptical.
    Here’s why,

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/apr/05/anti-nuclear-lobby-misled-world

    Haven’t you posted on KB some anti Jewish / Zionist links before.??

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  110. Reid (15,544 comments) says:

    Reid when Dr Helen Cauldicott made an appearance on your video I got a tad skeptical.

    Newsflash stephie, she’s not the only one concerned about Fukushima. One thing I’ve noticed people who can’t think very well do quite often, is disregard the information being covered because in their view the source is compromised. And it’s fine to be critical of the source. But this doesn’t mean, to someone who does know how to think, that everything the source says is compromised, it simply means be careful.

    For example I never listen to anything Alex Jones from infowars has to say, for various reasons. Same reasons in fact as I never listen to anything Sean O’Reilly from Fox News has to say. They both have the same issue. But when I say “I never listen” this means that I don’t follow their sites. If I happen to come across something either of them have come up with, I sometimes take note of it and sometimes I don’t. But I NEVER dismiss it simply because I know they are shills. That’s mental, in my thinking. I learned a long time ago that ‘just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean you’re not being followed.’

    That means, in other words, that even shills sometimes get it right. But I see a lot of fools and morons dismiss everything that comes from a person who they think is unreliable, which IMO is really stupid, since it’s the information that stands or falls, not the source. But I see that mistake a lot. I just think it’s weak analysis.

    Haven’t you posted on KB some anti Jewish / Zionist links before.

    I’ve posted many such links and I’m almost certain I’ll post many more. But what does that have to do with that Fukushima video? It didn’t mention an Israeli connection to Fukushima, did it. So so what if someone makes a comment on a youtube video that I have no control over? So what? What does that have to do with the video I posted? stephie, don’t do that again please. A comment on a youtube site is an extraordinarily tenuous connection to make with someone who posts a link to the video, and frankly mate it’s insulting. Not just because its tenuous but because whomever made that comment clearly has no idea how Israel works in the world but hallucinates some childish fantasy which as a matter of fact is fallacious anyway. So not only did you make a tenuous connection you made it with a complete mental who clearly has no idea who comprises zionism and how Israel operates.

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  111. stephieboy (1,138 comments) says:

    Reid ,as I suspected. Your off your your tree .!

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