General Debate 14 January 2014

January 14th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Harriet (4,795 comments) says:

    “…………..Mark Steyn got it right when he spoke of the menace of Leviathan:

    “Freedom is messy. In free societies, people fall through the cracks – drink too much, eat too much, buy unaffordable homes, fail to make prudent provision for health care, and much else. But the price of being relieved of all these tiresome choices by a benign paternal government is far too high. Big Government is the small option: it’s the guarantee of smaller freedom, smaller homes, smaller cars, smaller opportunities, smaller lives.”

    We are seeing the shrinking of freedom everywhere as government grows. And this is just as true of educational freedom as anything else……..” :cool:

    http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2014/01/12/statism-and-homeschooling-horrors/

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  2. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    My wish for 2014:

    That retarded kiwis that can’t handle their liquor don’t give National any more reasons to restrict liquor laws any more than they already have.

    Clearly many of the nanny statists in the Nats (which is most of them) are gagging for Prohibition-style liquor regulation, which seems to be being strongly supported by a Cameron Slater crusade against booze companies. For these people the drunk 9 year old is probably the best Christmas present they could have wished for going from some comments on the blogosphere.

    Just got back from a few weeks in Europe and was amazed at how relaxed liquor laws were in some places. At some places you could buy a bottle of absinthe from the corner dairy. And without exception I felt much safer walking around at night in these places than I do in Auckland’s CBD…

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  3. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Had to laugh at the sports news on the radio this morning-

    “And the big names are out to play today in the Australian Open- Federer, Nadal, Murray, Hewitt, Sharapova, and.. Erakovic!”

    Couldn’t help but smile at that one…

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  4. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    I hear big bruv is over there and plans to perform a haka in support when Erakovic takes court?

    On the subject of haka, it is clearly time the Black Caps began performing one before their cricket games. It will go well with their black clothing and their general ferocity on the cricket pitch.

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  5. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    How freedom of speech is suppressed in Samoa:

    Matai or chiefs of the village of Sili in Savai’i have already fined the boy’s family WST$10,000 (NZ$5200), 30 cartons of tinned fish and two cows.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-pacific/9603561/Arrested-for-mocking-prime-minister

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  6. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    On the subject of cricket, can we please send Kyle Mills to the same retirement home James Franklin and Jacob Oram went to…..get Milne in there FFS and blood him for the 2015WC, how many bowlers in NZ’s history have been able to hit 153k?

    Milne, Southee, Boult, Sodhi, Anderson….there is a bowling attack with considerable promise and variation…

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  7. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Nickb- For reasons I am unsure of New Zealand cricket seems hell-bent on hanging onto Kyle Mills for another 100 ODIs!
    Does he have some dirt on the selectors?
    I agree wholeheartedly on giving the young quick his chance…

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  8. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    Yes Longknives, Erakovic has to be the most over-hyped sportsperson in New Zealand and has been so for years.

    Spoke to a guy who used to work at Radio Sport who told me that her inflated profile was the result of a combination of lazy journalism and radio and TV stations being spammed with user friendly press releases by Erakovic’s management.

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  9. jcuk (665 comments) says:

    What I hear on RNZ news this morning makes me very troubled …. which clueless clown[s] in the Government object to a few million being spent on keeping kiwi workers employed building a ferry yet wastes much more on a silly yacht race. The only ray of sun shine was Colin Craig’s spirited defence of a sensible child smacking law against an agressive and obviously biased interviewer … it is about the only sensible thing I have heard off him.

    I do wonder why people agree to be interviewed by RNZ …. they must be masochists one and all.

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  10. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Nickb- For reasons I am unsure of New Zealand cricket seems hell-bent on hanging onto Kyle Mills for another 100 ODIs!
    Does he have some dirt on the selectors?
    I agree wholeheartedly on giving the young quick his chance…

    God knows how he became the world’s No 1 ODI bowler at some stage. God knows how he played 15 or so tests also. I still lol at the days our test attack was Mills, Tuffey, Martin and Oram….truly hostile that was.

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  11. flipper (3,952 comments) says:

    The Herald this morning runs an opinion piece in “10 Economic Steps for boosting NZ” apparently penned by one “Peter Davies” a “long time member of the Fabian Society” (one find that only by treading the footnote).

    Now would this “Peter Davies” be the SAME “Peter Davies” who is still, apparently, married to one Helen Clark, former Labour Prime Minster of NZ, and now a UN tit sucker?

    No matter, the garbage economics previously spouted by “Clark’s” Davies were little different from the socialist prescription advocated by/in the Herald this morning.

    It is yet another example of the Herald’s growing left wing bias in their choice of columnists/writers.

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  12. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “Mills, Tuffey, Martin and Oram”

    Aah the happy memories- The pea-hearted Jacob Oram who took NZ cricket for such a ride with his endless string of ‘injuries’ (which would always somehow miraculously heal when IPL season came around!)

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  13. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Come on Longknives, he was only thinking of his family.

    It will be interesting how this year’s IPL goes vis a vis Kiwis being picked up in the auction. AFAIK no current Kiwis are attached to a team or were retained in the draft. Not that I particularly enjoy the lobotomised version of the game but always good when kiwis are playing.

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  14. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    I’m a purist mate- refuse to watch it.

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  15. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    In my opinion it is a fad that doesn’t seem that sustainable. You may as well ban actual bowling and just have someone lob underarms to batters and turn it into a 6 distance hitting competition. That’s the way its going. Soon the boundaries will be like the Women’s Ashes…(in saying that those boundaries are probably bigger than some of NZ’s postage stamps)…

    It just reeks of money grabbing from no attention span Joe Blows to compensate for the declining interest in ODIs and tests…though NZC has only themselves to blame though with the lack of attendance and interest in ODIs and tests here. Why would you pay $40 for the privilege of watching the black caps pay shite, being able to buy 4 lion reds for $30, and having obese security guards bounce people from the ground for blowing up beach balls and singing on a hot summers day? I would still go because I am a sucker for punishment but a person or family with a more passing interest in cricket wouldn’t dream of it.

    FFS, lower the price enough that the grounds fill up and stop having borderline IQ failed cops harassing people for having a good time.

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  16. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    T20 is absolute rubbish. A pure slogfest- You will never see a crisp cover drive or a cracking square cut in T20.. In fact, it is very rare to even see any kind of decent shot at all (fucking ‘ramp shots’ don’t count)..
    I play club cricket in Auckland- most the guys I know will go to a Test or a ODI but nobody is interested in the ‘hit and giggle’ as it is so bloody ugly to watch (and a pure lottery)…
    It is designed for ‘non cricket’ spectators who don’t understand the game.

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  17. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Were you the first ‘hit’ those You Tube Women’s Ashes highlights got??

    And agree re the boundaries- though I reckon those Queenstown ones would be just about smaller!

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  18. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Where is PEB this morning? He is always up for some cricket banter…

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  19. Alan (1,087 comments) says:

    “It is yet another example of the Herald’s growing left wing bias in their choice of columnists/writers.”

    If you’d actually read the paper, you’d have seen they ran two columns on this topic, one from Davies and one from Stephen Joyce.

    It’s under the tag line “Today we present two views on how New Zealand can reach its economic and social potential.”

    Two side by side views, in an election year, appears perfectly reasonable to me. Doesn’t scream left wing bias to any rational person.

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  20. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Come on Longknives, you have never enjoyed a day watching the scintillating Women’s Ashes? Sexist prig.

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  21. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    Longknives – didnt realise you were such a fan.

    Question – the great aussie side through the steve waugh/ponting era. One of the best sports teams on the planet at the time?

    Im guessing the answer is no if we apply your all blacks standard.. only 9 test playing nations?

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  22. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Dime- Despite the Aussies famous bravado I never once heard them refer to themselves as the “Greatest Sports Team Ever”.
    Because doing so would have made them a laughing stock….It is a ridiculous call!

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  23. Reid (16,227 comments) says:

    Len Brown may? resume ‘mayor in the chair’ sessions.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11185833

    One option is a state of the nation-type speech. Another is resuming Mr Brown’s “mayor in the chair” chats, but that carries the risk of angry citizens lambasting him in public.

    Yes. I imagine the risk register for that project might be a little on the red side. I wonder what the mitigations are?

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  24. flipper (3,952 comments) says:

    Alan….
    You say…

    “…If you’d actually read the paper, you’d have seen they ran two columns on this topic, one from Davies and one from Stephen Joyce. ”

    Well, not being in a Herald circulation area I cannot see the printed paper, and have to rely upon the internet version to accurately reflect matters in the print version.

    Unless I am mistaken, and can see only “RED”, the Joyce piece is missing.

    Moreover, treating Fabian attitudes as being on a par with what has bee adopted and put into practice ion NZ is a prescription for the economic policies that have wrought havoc in Europe. It s just plain silly.

    I stand by my view of left wing editorial bias that was never permitted when the paper was owned and run by real newspaper people. So, Alan, go back to your archaic Fabian society nest……

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  25. Nookin (3,274 comments) says:

    I had not seen Milne till the other night and was quite excited at the prospect of a bit of zip in the team for the first time since Bond. Then I read Rattue — (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/best-of-sport-analysis/news/article.cfm?c_id=1502180&objectid=11185261). All rather depressing really. He is going to get injured so lets not select him! That will prolong his career!

    Do some journalists mould their entire lifestyle and outlook on the irrepressible need to be miserable and pessimistic?

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  26. Manolo (13,518 comments) says:

    What’s wrong with a bit of self-promotion?
    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/13/politics/christie-feds-investigating-sandy-ads/index.html

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  27. flipper (3,952 comments) says:

    Nookin….
    Good points.

    Placing this young fellow in cotton wool will never allow him to develop his full potential.

    Of course he needs careful on-field management, and he will need constant attention, and advice to maintain and develop his physical attributes, but if all those are provided, and Bond seems like an ideal coach to oversee that (given his own experiences), Milne has a good opportunity to go to bigger and better things.

    Good luck to him. :-)

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  28. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    “Dime- Despite the Aussies famous bravado I never once heard them refer to themselves as the “Greatest Sports Team Ever”.”

    You’re talking about the mantra on their dressing room wall? I don’t get what the issue is.

    Ever been to a sales course? that sorta shit is common as. In the 90’s sales people were walking around with “number 1″ pins on their shirts. “im the best ever, i deserve this sale” blah blah

    The all blacks are a great sports team. They just happen to be one you dont like.

    Man U – a great sports team too. Dime personally think they are a bunch of cocksmoking homos like every other soccer player, but i dont feel the need to vent about soccer on a weekly basis..

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  29. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Chris Rattue is a wannabe shock jock who loves making retarded predictions so he can gloat in the 1 out of 10,000 times he gets it right.

    Len Brown may? resume ‘mayor in the chair’ sessions.

    When I read this headline I was expecting something different….

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  30. Kleva Kiwi (286 comments) says:

    “jcuk (371 comments) says:
    January 14th, 2014 at 8:27 am
    What I hear on RNZ news this morning makes me very troubled …. which clueless clown[s] in the Government object to a few million being spent on keeping kiwi workers employed building a ferry yet wastes much more on a silly yacht race. The only ray of sun shine was Colin Craig’s spirited defence of a sensible child smacking law against an agressive and obviously biased interviewer … it is about the only sensible thing I have heard off him.

    I do wonder why people agree to be interviewed by RNZ …. they must be masochists one and all.

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    I bet you they didnt tell you all the facts. The project was put out to tender and they received over a dozen submissions. The cheapest NZ tender price was 17 million, where the winning price was 8 million. On a lowest cost conforming tender process like the one that was used, you have to accept the lowest price that meets the conditions of contract. This was the Bangladeshi submission.

    $9 million cheaper… Even if the tender had gone out with a favouritism clause, typically between 3%-10% adjustment in favour, they still would have lost by over $8 million.

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  31. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    “Chris Rattue is a wannabe shock jock who loves making retarded predictions so he can gloat in the 1 out of 10,000 times he gets it right.”

    I accidentally clicked on one of his turds yesterday. The entire article was about milne and how he will most probably have a short career. Just a wanker.

    The article i did like was when he described how a bunch of guys kicked the shit of him. Nice.

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  32. J Bloggs (226 comments) says:

    Flipper: Here is the link to Joyce’s article:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11185746

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  33. Rowan (2,074 comments) says:

    Nookin
    Rattue has a valid point, look at the far to brief international careers vs the raw potential of the likes of Shane Bond or Shaun Tait.
    He was pretty cynical though Milne could go on to be a great and prove him wrong (hopefully)

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  34. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    Yesterday Dom-Post ran a story about areas in NZ that were warmer than usual. It stated that last year Masterton had attained its highest temperature ever recorded at 33.5 deg C, and then went on to state that Masterton’s records began in 1992.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9604847/Wellington-warmer-than-usual

    I posted a comment late last night pointing out that Masterton had a temperature record going back to at least 1906 and NIWA had even published a paper showing how it did its temperature adjustments from different recording stations around the Masterton area
    http://www.niwa.co.nz/sites/default/files/import/attachments/Masterton_CompositeTemperatureSeries_13Dec2010_FINAL.pdf

    Today Dom-Post runs another article about warmest temps ever… (partial repeat of yesterday’s article), but I cant figure out whether Masterton’s highest temp is just based on recordings back to 1992 or whether NIWA is considering its complete temperature record.

    I’m left wondering whether NIWA has any regard for its long-term temperature-adjusted record for Masterton. Were higher temperatures than 33.5 deg C ever recorded in Masterton before 1992? Anyone remember???

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  35. Fletch (6,258 comments) says:

    What playing cricket looks like to Americans –

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  36. MT_Tinman (3,105 comments) says:

    First-Class Career Bowling (2009/10-2013/14)
    Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM SRate Econ
    Overall 2079 57 1192 39 5-47 30.56 1 0 53.30 3.44

    Why I’m not over excited about Milne.

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  37. gravedodger (1,546 comments) says:

    @ Maggie Wassilieff, in Feb 1970 we moved farms to the Wairarapa and on a post purchase/preoccupy visit, borrowed the Dalgety Managers car. No record of the date but it was hot, melted tar roads, workplace temps of 40 degrees and poor old managers car covered in tar.
    Clearly the hottest we experienced in the 20 years we spent there.

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  38. nickb (3,686 comments) says:

    Sheesh, its a tough crowd around here if you are a black cap or an All Black!

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  39. Nostalgia-NZ (5,099 comments) says:

    Rattue’s view of Milne is depressing. Any quick can and does have injuries that doesn’t put a black mark against Milne straight away, nor does his inaccuracy. Just trying to remember if it was Hadlee or not that ‘slowed’ down a tad and went for accuracy. I hope Shane Bond looks to have Milne developing within his limits, not pushing them until he has strength all round to exploit those limits when he choses during a bowling spell.

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  40. Fletch (6,258 comments) says:

    So much for anything useful in negotiations with Iran. Iran are actually threatening the U.S that if there are any more sanctions then they’ll move to approve a bill that requires them to enrich uranium to 60 percent. In other words, they think they’re in control – that they have the upper hand. That’s not supposed to be how it works.

    Iran vowed to maintain its nuclear infrastructure and threatened to boost its uranium enrichment capabilities just hours after announcing that it had agreed to a deal to halt some aspects of its contested nuclear program.

    Iran and Western nations announced on Sunday that they had agreed to an interim deal to halt portions of Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for some $7 billion in sanctions relief.

    Secretary of State John Kerry celebrated the interim agreement, which will officially begin on Jan. 20.

    However, Iranian officials threatened to ramp up nuclear activities should they feel the West is violating the accord.

    “We will in no way, never, dismantle our [nuclear] centrifuges,” Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi told the country’s state-run television station on Sunday, according to New York Times reporter Thomas Erdbrink.

    “Iranians endured sanctions for 10 years, resisted, so the world would respect our right to enrichment, this is now the case,” Araqchi was quoted as saying. “This game is played in our court. We cannot lose and return to enrichment as we wish.”

    Araqchi reiterated that Iran has a right to enrich uranium, one of the key sticking points in the deal, and predicted that the deal has less than a 50 percent chance of success.

    “We don’t need enrichment right from the Americans, who are they to give that right?” Araqchi said. President Barack Obama “said the upcoming talks have a 50-50 percent chance of success, I say its even less.”

    Iran will continue to enrich uranium, the key component in a nuclear bomb, up to 20 percent levels until right before the deal takes effect, according to Araqchi.

    “Iran will continue with 20 percent uranium enrichment by the end of the day on Jan. 19 and will suspend 20 percent enrichment on Jan. 20,” the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) quoted him as saying.

    Iran will immediately begin to see “targeted relief” from the economic sanctions as soon as the deal begins, according to Kerry.

    “The $4.2 billion in restricted Iranian assets that Iran will gain access to as part of the agreement will be released in regular installments throughout the six months,” Kerry said in a statement. “The final installment will not be available to Iran until the very last day.”

    The White House is refusing to release the official text of the nuclear deal, despite requests from reporters and members of Congress.

    “I urge the White House to publicly release the text of the implementation agreement with #Iran for all to review,” Sen. Mark Kirk (R., Ill.) tweeted on Sunday.

    Meanwhile, Iran’s parliament vowed to boost enrichment to 60 percent, very near the levels needed for a nuclear weapon, should the U.S. Congress pass a new sanctions bill currently up for debate.

    “If the U.S. Congress approves any [more] sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Islamic Consultative Assembly [the parliament] will accelerate the approval of a bill which requires the government to enrich uranium to the 60 percent grade,” Mohammad Hassan Asafari, a member of the parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, told Iran’s Fars News Agency on Sunday.

    Iranian Parliamentarians also vowed to end nuclear talks should the new sanctions pass.

    “If the U.S. Congress doesn’t abide by the policies of the administration and approves new sanctions, the parliament will be ready to declare Iran’s exit from the nuclear negotiations with the Group 5+1” comprised of the United States, Russia, China, Britain, France, and Germany, Esmayeel Jalili, a top Iranian lawmaker, told Fars.

    Kerry also came out against the new sanctions bill in his Sunday statement.

    “I feel just as strongly that now is not the time to impose additional sanctions that could threaten the entire negotiating process,” he said. “Now is not the time for politics. Now is the time for statesmanship, for the good of our country, the region, and the world.”

    Obama also opposed new sanctions on Sunday.

    http://freebeacon.com/iran-we-will-in-no-way-never-dismantle-nuclear-infrastructure/

    The U.S has become a toothless tiger beholden to Iran, seemingly afraid of losing the deal because it makes them look bad politically. They are being held hostage by their own unwillingness to be tough and of losing political face. Meanwhile, Iran is strutting around like a peacock believing they have the right to do whatever they wish. One would think it was they who were sanctioning the U.S.

    It’s not going to end well.

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  41. kowtow (8,195 comments) says:

    maggiewas

    I heard that about the temps on RNZ yesterday and the increases are being posited in terms of the 1971 to 2000 average.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/233247/2013-third-hottest-on-record

    The same thing was done in relation to Alarmist Salingers press release a few days ago.Here it is warmest winter with increase in terms of 1961-1990 long term average.

    http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/publications/media-releases/article.asp?id=1237#.UtRiSJ6SxPI

    So the question is ,is the increase in terms of a cherry picked long term average or is it an absolute increase?

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  42. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    @gravedodger… Tx… my memory of Wairarapa summers in the 1970s is of disgusting, debilitating heat… and that’s me wandering through the bush though, not out in a bare paddock or in a town.

    @kowtow….. I agree…. there seems to be deliberate confusion as to time spans being employed in all these public releases.
    Either the entire NZ temperature recorded is being employed (with its attendant adjustments (fudge-factoring) ) or a shorter record is being used (perhaps ony 1 or 2 sunspot cycles long). We really need to have this clarified each time NIWA gives a press release.

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  43. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    Were higher temperatures than 33.5 deg C ever recorded in Masterton before 1992? Anyone remember???

    Who knows, but presumably 1992 marks the point at which the Masterton record becomes reliable (possibly with the installation of accurate equipment etc) so any unadjusted record before 1992 would be context specific and meaningless if referred to in isolation.

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  44. Sofia (852 comments) says:

    For a private affair, which Brown is adamant in no way impinges on his ability to perform as Mayor of Auckland …

    A lot of work is going into resurrecting his political career after a humiliating 10 weeks in the run-up to Christmas that included sordid details of a two-year affair with Bevan Chuang, a damming report that found he failed to declare more than $39,000 in free hotel rooms and upgrades, and censure by councillors …

    Mr Brown and his advisers are considering a new year speech with a focus on public transport, in which Mr Brown wants to make a start on the city rail link in 2016. Other goals are more affordable houses and tightening the city’s finances, including reining in debt.
    But it has not been decided when or if it the speech happen.

    Yesterday morning his chief press secretary, Glyn Jones, refused to say if Mr Brown would continue his “mayor in the chair” face-to face chats, which last took place in September …

    Meanwhile, the right-wing local body ticket Affordable Auckland is organising a “Stand Down Len Brown” march up Queen St at noon on February 22.

    We have
    • a mayor masturbating in office [when he isn't actually rooting a much younger staff member]
    • a failure to declare more than $39,000 in free hotel rooms and upgrades, but
    • the moment a speech on “more affordable houses and tightening the city’s finances, including reining in debt”, this in itself will become a new corruption and falsehood – not about houses or finance, but to make an adulterous corrupt mayor look good.

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  45. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    Tinny – hes a 21 year old kid. He has potential. fingers crossed.

    Hes bulked up a bit which is good.

    Never easy cutting & pasting stats.. but essentially

    13 first class games. 39 wickets. average of 30. strike rate of 53.

    Not too bad. Avg needs to come down. Boult/Southee are around 26.

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  46. Rowan (2,074 comments) says:

    True Nosty
    I hope he is given a decent shot and managed by Shane Bond and NZC, doesn’t mean he needs to be given every ODI and T20 straight away. He is the quickest thing we’ve had since Bond and hopefully he will establish some consistency and become a great bowler for NZ. Internationally how many can you think of that are currently playing that can bowl at this pace? I can only think of Johnson who is to inconsistent for me either very good or very bad. Yes he had a very good Ashes but has been dropped numerous times and regularly goes for plenty. He wouldn’t have even been in the Ashes eleven if it wasn’t for injuries to Pattison and Starc.

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  47. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    Either the entire NZ temperature recorded is being employed (with its attendant adjustments (fudge-factoring)

    Why refer to it as ‘fudge factoring’? Which aspect of the adjustment methodology do you disagree with?

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  48. MT_Tinman (3,105 comments) says:

    Dime, 3 years in a very average competition and only one 5 wicket bag.

    Bowling fast in a candyfloss-crap game does not equate to bowling fast for his 20th over of the day in real cricket.

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  49. Rowan (2,074 comments) says:

    When are Aussie going to get Cummins back on the park, he was the next big thing and could bowl at 150k+ but appears to be like Bond with the persistent back troubles. Hopefully he can have an extended injury free run and get back on the park, he is still only 20 so has a lot of time infront of him if he can beat the injuries.

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  50. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    Tinny – yeah true.. if he doesnt have an amazing playing record between the ages of 18-21 then hes probably shit.

    Rowan – cummins is back in club cricket. he was due to play in the big bash pretty soon. should be part of the aussie side for the t20 world cup. hes only 20 as well. hes been working with dennis lillee, has an improved action… we will see!

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  51. kowtow (8,195 comments) says:

    “We really need this clarified each time NIWA gives a press release”

    Exactly.The problem is the alarmist media are quite happy to go along uncritically.

    Lazy journalism? Agenda journalism? A bit of both ?

    Scotty says “adjustment methodology”…….again therein lies the problem.The alarmists, looking out to keep their funding, won’t make adjustments that jeapordise their employment.Why would they?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/what-catastrophe_773268.html

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  52. MT_Tinman (3,105 comments) says:

    dime (8,053 comments) says:
    January 14th, 2014 at 11:37 am
    Tinny – yeah true.. if he doesnt have an amazing playing record between the ages of 18-21 then hes probably shit.

    Would you consider a batsman with one ton in three years for the national team?

    He played the ODI in Queenstown from memory – badly.

    You keep an eye on players with his potential, not draft them immediately into the test team as some on here are demanding.

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  53. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    @ Scott Chris…… happy to be convinced otherwise….I’m not a mathematician…. just an old ecologist who knows the limits that apply to measurements….so lets consider the Masterton temperature adjustment record

    http://www.niwa.co.nz/sites/default/files/import/attachments/Masterton_CompositeTemperatureSeries_13Dec2010_FINAL.pdf

    We cannot tell from this paper what is the level of uncertainty on the cumulative effects of all the adjustments……. hey, probably a minor point…but one I remind myself about by flashing “fudge factor” across my eyeballs as I scan the paper.

    And for Fig 8 why put a linear trend through this average data…. a fitted polynomial might be a better move?

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  54. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “Internationally how many can you think of that are currently playing that can bowl at this pace? I can only think of Johnson ”

    Steyn and Morkel for a start…

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  55. Viking2 (11,368 comments) says:

    Coming to a road near you.

    Mr Morgan ranked it second behind vehicles that passed too close to bikes, which he rated as “really scary. It’s dangerous.”

    In third place he put excess speed.

    “Everything is a lot easier at a safe speed. At 30km/h you are much more likely to see someone and be able to take action.

    “We think 50km/h in towns is the wrong speed. In residential and shopping streets we should be looking at 30km/h.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11185835

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  56. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    We cannot tell from this paper what is the level of uncertainty on the cumulative effects of all the adjustments

    Well from a quick look, probably not much as the adjustments appear to be discrete therefore the uncertainty would not compound.

    And for Fig 8 why put a linear trend through this average data

    The linear trend appears to be inferred not applied at a glance, but to be honest that stuff kinda bores me so I’m happy to trust the peer review system on that score. (but not the amateur blog review system mind)

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  57. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    viking – BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

    you should add that its not gareth morgan.. although that wouldnt surprise me.

    when the govt decided to build a new road/motorway they love to tell us how much extra money it will pump into the economy.

    Dimes question – what will a 30km/h speed limit on residential and shopping streets cost the economy? 10 billion? 15 billion?

    what a fucking muppet

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  58. dime (9,800 comments) says:

    “You keep an eye on players with his potential, not draft them immediately into the test team as some on here are demanding.”

    jesus, the test team? thats scary.

    i think its smart to have him in the squad. it means hes getting consistent top line coaching. kinda like what the all blacks do with the odd youngster.

    play milne when hes good enough. im happy if that takes another 3 years for test cricket

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  59. kowtow (8,195 comments) says:

    In other sports news ,the “Dakar” rally is underway.

    Only it’s not really a Dakar rally it’s a South American rally……

    can’t be held in Africa due to terrorism…….

    nothing to see here ,move along please.

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  60. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    Maggy Wassilieff

    The information on temperatures at Masterton (Waingawa) is available at http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/digital-yearbook-collection.aspx

    Pure uncooked, unadjusted data…..the alarmists haven’t got around to doctoring these figures.

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  61. Fletch (6,258 comments) says:

    Haha, too funny :)
    In an independent poll taken in the U.S asking who the most admired person is, Rush Limbaugh comes in ahead of Hillary Clinton.

    RUSH: YouGov.com did a poll commissioned by the Times of London.  They did a poll commissioned by The Times of London, YouGov.com, and they polled the most admired people in America, and then they polled the most admired people in the world, and they did this in 13 countries.  Yeah, here it is.  “They went to 13 countries that have more than half of the world’s population, and they asked people to name who they admire most. Only those living were allowed to be listed.”  It was not multiple choice. 

    You picked the name yourself, and in the YouGov.com poll of America, in last place at number 10 was Hillary Clinton.  Number nine was your host, me.  And the news over the weekend — the Washington Examiner, a couple other places had it — was shock and dismay that the “radio entertainer,” not even television! The radio entertainer, Rush Limbaugh, is more admired in the United States than Hillary Clinton.  That’s right.  I didn’t even know this was going on.  There was no way I could stoke the poll. I didn’t even tell anybody anything. I didn’t even know it was going on.

    END TRANSCRIPT

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/01/13/shock_and_dismay_on_the_left_rush_limbaugh_more_admired_than_mrs_clinton

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  62. Elaycee (4,356 comments) says:

    @kowtow: The (former) Paris – Dakar rally hasn’t been run between Paris and Dakar since 2007. Apparently, the threats to kidnap drivers and support crews as they passed through Mauritania, forced the cancellation of the 2008 event and since 2009, it has been raced in South America (and is now referred to as the Dakar Rally).

    And it’s not a rally where you’d see Citroens driven by the likes of Sebastian Loeb etc but rather an event that includes classes for off-roaders, trucks and even motorbikes.

    Sorted.

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  63. grumpyoldhori (2,361 comments) says:

    Fletch, so Israel and Iran will end up chucking nukes at each other.
    Care to explain why we should give a flying fuck about either Israel or Iran ?

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  64. Fletch (6,258 comments) says:

    Fletch, so Israel and Iran will end up chucking nukes at each other.
    Care to explain why we should give a flying fuck about either Israel or Iran ?

    grumpy, because after Israel, it’s the U.S, then the rest of the world.
    Iran is developing ICBMs. They are not for Israel – they can reach Israel already – they are for the U.S, the “great Satan” as they call it.

    Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev –

    I mean, the Iranians are building intercontinental ballistic missiles. They’re not building them for us, they’ve already got missiles that can reach Israel.  They’re building them for you! For targets in North America and Western Europe. It’s crucial that we don’t allow them to get nuclear weapons.

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  65. J Bloggs (226 comments) says:

    grumpyoldhori: Because a significant portion of the global economy (which we are sort of part of) relies on the stretch of land and water that lies between those two countries, and the two of them tossing nukes at each other could interfere with that.

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  66. cha (3,935 comments) says:

    Rush Limbaugh comes in ahead of Hillary Clinton

    .

    A drug addled loser who embarks on viagra fuelled excursions to the regional epicentre of child prostitution, congratulations America.

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  67. Reid (16,227 comments) says:

    Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev –

    …because Isweal never lies, does it. Especially not about Iwan.

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  68. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    @ Scott Chris… Yeah, usually I’m happy enough with peer-reviewing, or at least I was when I was an Editor of the NZJ Botany, as I chose the reviewers for the submitted papers (with the help of an Editorial Board at times).
    However I’m asking a simple set of questions….. are the stories the Dom-Post is running on Masterton’s record temperature referenced back to 1992 only….( yesterday’s comment from NIWA is that Masterton’s temp record only extended that far back).

    or is today’s frontpage story referencing a century of measurements a contradiction of yesterday’s?
    or is today’s story referencing the adjusted temp record NIWA previously published for Masterton?

    Crikey dick, if I can’t make head or tails of this, how is joe & jane public meant to?

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  69. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    or is today’s frontpage story referencing a century of measurements a contradiction of yesterday’s?

    Best person to ask is the author of the article:

    katie.chapman@dompost.co.nz

    But I suggest you don’t open with “Oh rubbish” ;)

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  70. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    Oh why bother…. I’ve found a Wairarapa Times Sat Jan 2009 stating that 3 days previously the Masterton temp hit 34.6 deg C at their automatic recording station

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/wairarapa-times-age/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503414&objectid=10978215

    I think I’ve got enough evidence to conclude that 33.5 deg C is not the hottest day recorded in Masterton in last century

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  71. kowtow (8,195 comments) says:

    Maggy but that’s the actual temperature,now an unbiased “scientist” has to adjust the finding to suit his ideology ,future income stream.

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  72. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    Pure uncooked, unadjusted data…..the alarmists haven’t got around to doctoring these figures.

    Nasska, take a hypothetical Town A and Town B. Both have meteorological records including temperature data dating back to, say 1900.

    Both towns have a very similar temperature record and a very similar geo-meteorological aspect. (yes I made up that word but you know what I mean)

    In 1960 Town A updates its measuring instruments and its measurement methodology.
    In 1970 Town B updates its measuring instruments and its measurement methodology.

    Subsequent measurements of the correlative coefficient of the two towns’ temperature records are as follows:

    1900 to 1960 … 0.9
    1960 to 1970 … 0.8
    1970 to 2014 … 0.97 (note the closer to 1, the closer to perfect positive correlation)

    Question is, is it fair and scientifically sound to adjust Town B’s temperature record between 1960 and 1970 to that of Town A’s during the same period so that it reflects the 0.97 correlative coefficient of the subsequent accurately measured period, and then to adjust all the pre 1960 data using the same formula?

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  73. Scott Chris (6,036 comments) says:

    I’ve found a Wairarapa Times Sat Jan 2009 stating that 3 days previously the Masterton temp hit 34.6 deg C at their automatic recording station

    Erm, in order to measure anything accurately you need to use the same instruments with the same calibration at the same location and using the same methods. I think you need a higher standard of evidence.

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  74. Maggy Wassilieff (326 comments) says:

    @ Scott Chris…. well read the 2009 article….. is this East tarawhiti site the same one NIWA is using for its 2013 record.?….

    I’m off to suck eggs….

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  75. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Jesus H Christ. If its not bloody football – all shapes and sizes, its bloody boring cricket. Whats wrong with you guys.

    Give me a can of paint, a brush and blank wall and I will get more enjoyment watching the paint dry.

    Get a life.

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  76. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    Fairfax are really on the support trail of the Slobcom, he is again the poster boy. Come on advertisers, give Fairfax the arse, cause indirectly, that is what they are doing to you.

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  77. Gosman (323 comments) says:

    My post on the negative effects of left wing policies.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/the-grim-reality-of-leftist-policies.html

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  78. mandk (956 comments) says:

    Nice one, Francis!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25723422

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  79. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I watched the lead story on TV1 news tonight -fuck me.

    Evidently some teenagers have been getting on the piss and drinking too much. Imagine that. That’s new – this as a story was fucking appalling, no other way to describe it. Utter utter rubbish. Then there were two pasty faces on decrying that all of a sudden teenagers had discovered alcohol and were abusing it. Imagine.

    Dear pasty faced people on TV , I’m an alcoholic, no academic ,law, restriction or availability has anything whats so ever to do with my alcoholisim just as much as no academic, law, restriction or availability has anything to do with my sobriety. You are meddling actually know fuck alls who would be better off contributing to society by stacking shelves at at a bottle store.

    Also some dirty prick gives TNNZ a video of Steven Luatua fucking about drinking with some mates,- this lead the news!!!!

    Then the second story, some people “some people” have got a sore guts from some cream. A recall of 9000 bottles is underway. The fact that the recall will be tiny as most of the cream has been consumed with no ill effects was like water off a ducks back to TVNZ.

    You can’t sell TVNZ- to sell something it has to have a value.

    Third story – there was none TV turned off

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  80. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    MANAGEMENT LESSONS

    Two robbers walked in to a bank and shouted “Everyone freeze! The money belongs to the bank, life belongs to you”. Everyone laid down quietly.

    This is called “Mind Changing Concept – changing the conventional way of thinking”.

    One lady lay on the table provocatively, the robber shouted at her “Please be civilised! This is a robbery – not a rape!”

    This is called “Being Professional – focus only on what you are trained to do!”

    When the robbers got back home, the younger robber (university educated) told the older robber (who never finished college) “Mate, let’s count how much we got”. The older robber rebutted and said “So much money! We’ll just wait for the news tonight to tell us how much we robbed from the bank!”

    This is called “Experience – nowadays experience is more important than paper qualifications!”

    After the robbers left, the bank manager told the bank supervisor to call the police quickly. The supervisor says “Wait wait wait… let’s put the $15 million we embezzled into the amount the robbers robbed”.

    This is called “Swimming with the tide – converting an unfavourable situation to your advantage!”

    The next day, the TV news reported that $20 million was taken from the bank. The robbers counted and counted but they could only count $5 million. The robbers were very angry and complained “We risked our lives and only took $5 million, the bank manager took $15 million with a snap of his fingers. It looks like it’s better to be educated than to be a thief!”

    This is called “Knowledge is worth as much as gold!”

    The bank manager was smiling and happy because his personal gambling losses are now covered by the robbery.

    This is called “Seizing the opportunity – daring to take risks!”

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  81. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    After he left the bank did he get a job at the ACC in charge of training nasska? :)

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  82. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Has your drinking habit given you a very bad ulcer PEB? :)

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  83. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    The not drinking habit did though

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  84. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “Jesus H Christ. If its not bloody football – all shapes and sizes, its bloody boring cricket. Whats wrong with you guys.
    Give me a can of paint, a brush and blank wall and I will get more enjoyment watching the paint dry.”

    I was about to suggest, RF, that we all pour a drink and mull over the greatest Test XI of the past thirty years (I say thirty years as that’s as long as I’ve been watching..)

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  85. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Top of my head- (Subject to likely change..)

    Gavaskar
    Hayden
    Lara
    Richards
    Tendulkar
    Kallis
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Hadlee
    Akram
    Marshall

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  86. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    How was the big-titted Rep from the personal lubricants company?

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  87. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    It was tabasco and sand

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  88. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    A group of cowboys were out on the range branding some
    cattle. While they were away the new cook saw a sheep
    tied to a post. Thinking it was for that night’s dinner
    he slaughtered the sheep, and cooked it.

    That night after dinner the cowboys were all sulking
    and ignoring the cook.

    He pulled one aside and asked, “Did I screw up the
    cooking”

    “No”, the cowboy replied, “You cooked up the screwing.”

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  89. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Longknives. 8.10pm. As I sit here supping my single malt I reflect on the time I failed to duck and was smacked in the left cheek with a bloody cricket ball going 100mph. I also have memories of showering with naked hairy men after a rugby game and I was not even playing. I know its too much information but I prefer the quiet life. Time for another drink Jeeves.

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  90. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    That’s what you get when you’re such a tight-wad you only pop over with a bottle of warm Bernadino PEB! :)

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  91. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    “I also have memories of showering with naked hairy men after a rugby game and I was not even playing.”

    I don’t want to- but I’m gonna ask…..

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  92. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Ungrateful bastards nasska. I’d have been happy enough to chew on a nice warm bit of sheep’s rump dead or alive! :)

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  93. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Greenidge for Hayden
    Lillee for Akram
    Thompson for Hadlee- we don’t need him if Gilchist is playing
    Border for Richards 4 tests can’t qualify him, I know what you mean but..

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  94. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Longknives. 8.25pm. I was the ball boy and no I did not scrub any in the shower.

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  95. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    It’s good to know that you’re not fussy JB. :)

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  96. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    As long as the cook washed the dags off. I hate eating shit! :)

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  97. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Gordon Greenidge- A fine attacking opener, wont argue that..
    Dennis Lillee- Best of the best but I’d say he was finished by ’83-84 (which I am picking my team from)
    Jeff Thompson- Not in the same league as Hadlee
    And I meant Viv Richards…

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  98. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    I see Lillee played his last test in Jan ’84…

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  99. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    You mean Viv Richards, he was alright I suppose,

    OK then Holding for Hadlee

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  100. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    I’d love to have Botham in there- my favourite cricketer of all time..
    But Kallis really has to take the allrounders spot..

    Don’t like Hadlee eh?
    Michael ‘Whispering Death’ Holding- Lethally quick but do we need him with Marshall and Akram tearing it down?

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  101. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Thommo was sheer blistering bullying pace also he was a team man, Hadlee never was.
    You got Warne you don’t need Hadlee.
    Holding Marshall Thommo and Warne. People were scared by them, Hadlee got them out but they didn’t fear them
    I would have Border in ahead of Lara then , he can bat and a brilliant uncompromising captain

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  102. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Michael ‘Whispering Death’ Holding- Lethally quick but do we need him with Marshall

    Fuck yes – namby pamby batsmen need not apply test cricket is about pace bowling and Shane Warne

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  103. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Still haven’t forgiven Hadlee for keeping the car eh?

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  104. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Lara can’t be left out- Test average of 52 and hit four hundred in a Test…. four bloody hundred!

    AB was a great batsman though, and a fine captain.

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  105. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    As long as Henry Blofeld is the commentator who gives a shit about the players! :)

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  106. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Other batsmen I considered were Gooch, Miandad, Dravid and Ponting.

    Bowlers in the mix were McGrath, Pollock, Ambrose

    Allrounders Botham and Imran…

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  107. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    My hero was Frank Tyson. I used to dream about him.

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  108. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    That may have given us a little too much info RF. :)

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  109. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Typhoon Tyson was bowling at 150kph in the mid 1950s!

    He is still alive RF if you want to keep fantasising!!

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  110. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Henry always had a great regard for the Seagulls on the fielding team! :)

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  111. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Dream as in I wish I could bowl like him.. Not impure thoughts.

    Christ is he still alive. I thought he croaked years ago. Ahh the memories of willow on leather.. I used to wear leather pants and at times was flogged with a length of willow. Just joking.

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  112. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Did you go to Saint Patricks RF? :)

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  113. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Hopeless trying to have a decent cricket conversation with you two old drunkards- Where is Nickb when you need him?

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  114. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Still too much imformation RF !

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  115. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Johnboy. Matron thought I was very special and believed a good spanking would cleanse my impure thoughts. I was not a boarder so our meetings were brief and during daylight. Saint Patricks sounds like St Bedes down in Christchurch. They were into flagellation and sheep.

    All this talk makes me want to phone Len Brown so we can bond.

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  116. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Sounds like you could make another fine flower girl at Johnboys and Nasskas wedding there RF ?

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  117. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Only if I can watch them on their wedding night. My TVs broken.

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  118. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    At least it was Matron that spanked you RF and not Father FitzPatrick! :)

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  119. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Yep, they wont mind at all i would imagine RF !!

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  120. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    ” They were into flagellation and sheep.”

    Now there’s a thought for a Charter School…”Federated Farmers Flagellation Finishing school”

    Or “4F’s”….. Where marks on yer arse mean a pass! :)

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  121. RF (1,370 comments) says:

    Those brothers were very intense. They must have had an interest in anatomy as they preferred you to strip off before they flogged you.

    Matron was upset with the sight of the bruises on my rear and had nice soft hands that she rubbed in a sweet smelling oil. It was worth the pain.

    Looking forward to the wedding night. I have a digital video camera with infrared capabilities.

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  122. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Will be a great wedding night RF. A lot of Kiwibloggers are being invited and would imagine they to will bring their digital video cameras along with them but not the expensive infrared capabilities i fair !!~

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  123. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Keep the batteries charged RF. It could be a while till the wedding. nasska and I both have to murder our wives and get away with it and then have the banns read at the Ekatahuna/Wainui cossy clubs before we can even consider selecting a suitable woolen wedding dress for nasska!

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  124. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    Baaahh. :)

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  125. Don the Kiwi (1,686 comments) says:

    Longknives.

    How about Big Bird Joel Garner – sending down cricket-boot crushing yorkers at 140 kph from about 12′ up – he was very difficult to get away.

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  126. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    What colour raddle would you like the flower girls to display nasska?

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  127. hj (6,866 comments) says:

    Urbanization Has Been Destroying the Environment Since the Very First Cities

    “It’s easy to believe that humankind’s earliest cities existed sustainably within the natural ecosystem, unlike modern megalopolises, fed and sustained by vast tracts of farm land and a global economy. But, as a team of researchers studying the ancient city of Akko found out, human cities have been radically transforming the environment since at least 6,000 years ago.

    Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/urbanization-has-been-destroying-the-environment-since-the-very-first-cities-180948243/#ixzz2qMRpN0gG

    You could see how the ancient city consumed resources as they were close at hand. Now those resources (and polutions) are spread far and wide.

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  128. publicwatchdog (2,516 comments) says:

    FYI Kiwibloggers ………
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    14 January 2014

    Lyn Provost
    Auditor-General
    New Zealand

    ‘Open Letter’

    Dear Lyn,

    Over the Christmas break, I took the opportunity to study the:

    “Inquiry into the Government’s decision to negotiate with Sky City Entertainment Group Ltd for an international convention centre”

    (February 2013 )

    I note that this inquiry was actually carried out by the Deputy Auditor-General Phillippa Smith.

    In the Deputy Auditor-General’s overview, (Pg 3) she states:

    “In June 2012, I announced that this Office would carry out an inquiry into the process that the Ministry of Economic Development (the Ministry) followed leading up to the Government’s decision to negotiate with SKYCITY Entertainment Group Ltd (Sky City) about developing an international convention centre in Auckland. 1

    ………………….

    1 The Auditor-General has a small shareholding in Sky City so she has not been involved in this inquiry. ”

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    http://www.oag.govt.nz/2013/skycity/2013/skycity/docs/inquiry-into-the-government2019s-decision-to-negotiate-with-skycity-entertainment-group-limited-for-an-international-convention-centre

    Can you please confirm whether or not you still have ‘a small shareholding in Sky City’?

    YES or NO?

    If NO, can you please confirm the date when you ceased to be a shareholder in Sky City?

    Can you please acknowledge receipt of this correspondence at your earliest convenience?

    Kind regards,

    Penny Bright
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    (If Auditor-General Lyn Provost is still a shareholder in Sky City, there may be some significant repercussions and developments on this matter………….. )

    For those who have yet to read the above-mentioned “Inquiry into the Government’s decision to negotiate with Sky City Entertainment Group Ltd for an international convention centre” – I strongly recommend that you do.

    It is a FASCINATING read – on so many fronts ……….

    Penny Bright

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  129. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    First!!!! :)

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  130. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    It’s not quite like doing a virgin however! :)

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  131. nasska (11,186 comments) says:

    Sloppy seconds. :)

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  132. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    We’ll take turns when we’re hitched nasska! :)

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  133. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Third !!!!

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  134. Dean Papa (784 comments) says:

    Richards
    Tendulkar
    Lara
    Border
    Kallis
    Botham
    Gilchrist
    Hadlee
    Warne
    Marshall
    Ambrose

    12th man: Akram

    I’ve shifted the Little Master and Sir Viv to opening, …I’m sure they would be able to adapt.

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  135. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Have you considered a menage nasska? :)

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  136. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Dont forget about the flower girls Johnboy ?

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  137. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    Do you have a preference for the colour of your raddle then stigie? :)

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  138. Johnboy (15,903 comments) says:

    How come someone that looks like Penny can get done over three times in as many minutes and a handsome chap like me has to marry nasska to lose my virginity?

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  139. Gosman (323 comments) says:

    My post on the decision of the government to award the tender to build the ferry for the Tokelau Islands to a firm in Bangladesh and thus save taxpayers millions of dollars.

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/01/boat-building-bidding-bleat.html

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  140. kowtow (8,195 comments) says:

    You could save the taxpayer even more money by NOT buying a fricken ferry for Tokelau inn the first place.

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  141. stigie (1,066 comments) says:

    Extremely flexible on the colour you understand Johnboy.

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  142. SPC (5,563 comments) says:

    An atheist is granted asylum in the UK on the grounds of his belief.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25715736

    Personally I would have thought the ground would have been right of freedom from (persecution by Moslems) religion.

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