General Debate 27 May 2014

May 27th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. igm (1,413 comments) says:

    TVNZ starting their Labour support early with that imbecile Dweever pleading for PIs to be given houses. It appears they send too much of their taxpayer-funded incomes to their relatives in the islands, and also furnish their church leaders with far too much money . . . maybe Dweever should be pleading for repatriation for the poor PIs, they may be able to afford homes there.

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  2. Odakyu-sen (735 comments) says:

    The more you do for people, the less they will do for themselves…

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  3. jonnobanks (148 comments) says:

    Labour is trying to be the New Zealand version of UKIP. That may work!

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  4. hj (7,062 comments) says:

    Britain Eurosceptic UKIP in first place, with 27%, Conservatives on 24% and Labour about 25%. Junior coalition partner Lib Dems lose 10 seats, retaining only one, Greens take 8%.

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  5. EAD (1,296 comments) says:

    It is interesting to observe the rise of UKIP in the UK and what their rise might mean for the future of NZ politics. Remember UKIP polled 3% in the 2010 UK general election but now they’ve topped the latest election with 29% of the vote.

    The factors that have driven Libertarian UKIP’s rise are also now evidenced in NZ namely:
    – Out of control deficit spending by so called “right wing” parties – in the UK the Conservative government is racking up £100b+ annual deficits whilst our National Party despite forecasting a surplus in the future, continue to put our country in the hock to the tune of $75m+ per week.
    – Extreme levels of low skilled immigration (see yesterday’s Herald article of Auckland hospital translators) with no regard as to compatibility into the host culture. By way of comparison, the UK net immigration over the past few years is circa 200k p.a. while NZ with a population one fifteenth the size is due to have a population increase from immigration of 40k+ this year. How long till incidents like the Avondale mosque result in deaths?
    – Social engineering with no mandate from the electorate done by “conscience vote”. Whether it be gay “marriage”, smacking, or the inevitable euthanasia bill, not one of these will be put forward before the electorate in a manifesto.
    – The continued drip, drip removal of free speech under the guise of “political correctness”
    – A green agenda that continues to ramp up the cost of living and results in our beautiful countryside being dotted with ugly windmills

    The interesting thing will be how and when this plays out. We haven’t had a major recession yet as TPTB have ramped up a huge credit bubble on the back of the Chinese credit bubble to give the illusion of growth. When that bubble inevitably bursts, people will actually start to take a harder look at what is going on and will reject the statism and decay on offer from our 3 main political parties.

    Who will be the benefactors? While I expect Act will pick up support, I think it will be the Conservatives who gain the most. Like UKIP, they are constantly ridiculed by the Media and their words twisted to fit whatever narrative the lamestream media is pushing which shows the fear they have of them. While they may only just scrape the 5% this time round, expect them to the major benefactors as more and more people get pi**sed at the way this country is being run and they will be polling 20%+ in the 2017 general election.

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  6. mandk (1,015 comments) says:

    @ jonnobanks
    Great idea. Let’s wait for Labour to tell us New Zealand should never have been in the EU in the first place :-)

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  7. Keeping Stock (10,409 comments) says:

    Congratulations to Kim Dotcom and Hone Harawira on their engagement. An official announcement is coming at 11am, but it seems as though Herr Dotcom has moved on at record speed. And Hone seems to have decided that if you can’t beat the 1%, you hook up with them. What will Sue Bradford have to say about that?

    There’s just one lingering question; how much is the dowry?

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.co.nz/2014/05/harawira-and-dotcom-to-marry.html

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  8. hj (7,062 comments) says:

    Meanwhile on Frogblog Jan Logie is bleating about our “international reputation” i.e what will the international equivalents of HC and Chris Carter think of us?
    And what these journalists don’t get is that the results across EU states are a revolt against them also.

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  9. duggledog (1,585 comments) says:

    igm – yes I love how they use the meme that ‘Pasifika’ (a made up word coined by wet liberals, they are Polynesians) are being ‘locked out’ of the housing market.

    How emotive and underhand, and an illustration of how some in the media can create an illusion.

    The inference of course is that everyone else is shutting the door on them, denying them ‘locking them out’. Which is bull shit. I’m not locking PI’s out of the housing market, they are doing it themselves by having gargantuan families, sending money they don’t have back home to their third world islands, tithing to a church or borrowing it on extortionate rates.

    Balls

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  10. hj (7,062 comments) says:

    Agree with EAD except that I’m not a AGW skeptic and I’m not opposed to gay marriage as it is biological not bad behaviour.

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  11. EAD (1,296 comments) says:

    Whilst myself generally being against just everything Green (as most of the time the Green agenda is used to push Communist ideas), these massive worldwide protests against Monsanto have my full support.

    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/after-the-march-against-monsanto-momentum-favors-the-people_052014

    The issue of GM “frankenfoods” aside (which I don’t have any expertise to make an informed opinion), it is fcuking disgusting that these bastards are slowly becoming monopoly suppliers of the global food chain and that due to their “terminator technology”, produce plants that have sterile seed so the farmer cannot save or reap seeds from one year to the next but has to buy new seeds every year from a monopoly supplier at a price that satisfies that supplier’s greedy shareholders. Monsanto is the most evil corporation on earth.

    The progressive move away from family owned farms to massive corporate owned farms I think in the future is going to come back and bite us hard in ways we can’t imagine due to their homogenization of crop and desire to extract every last drop of yield and lack of long term thinking.

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  12. Ross12 (1,454 comments) says:

    EAD & hj

    The French president is reacting already to the EU election result

    https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/23871321/frances-hollande-calls-for-eu-to-reduce-role/

    “reduced role” is this code for ” we better pull our horns in before the voters vote the EU out altogether”

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  13. doggone7 (819 comments) says:

    EAD: “We haven’t had a major recession yet as TPTB have ramped up a huge credit bubble on the back of the Chinese credit bubble to give the illusion of growth. When that bubble inevitably bursts…”

    This keys in to the notion of growth and progress being dependent on immigration are being denoted by it. People coming in = economic activity = good regardless of other factors which have impacts. Growth in that sense is not an illusion but it is artificial. A bit like printing more money?

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  14. jcuk (713 comments) says:

    I wonder how many ‘ordinary’ people with their super funds benefit by being shareholders in Monsanto?

    This morning in the NYT I read Paul Krugman citing the success of the European socialist systems in getting their productive populations who should be working [ the 25<55 Age group ] into work and are beating the capitalistic American system.

    It is rather like the situation that a well fed cat is a better rat and mice catcher becuase they are strong and healthy.

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  15. Chuck Bird (4,923 comments) says:

    More money wasted on legal aid or social welfare for useless lawyers

    Prisoner claims rights breached over TV hire
    SHANE COWLISHAW
    Last updated 05:00 27/05/2014

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10086662/Prisoner-claims-rights-breached-over-TV-hire

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  16. twofish (101 comments) says:

    An electorate candidate’s election expenses during the regulated period must not exceed $25,000 (including GST). It is a serious offence to spend more than this. The election expense regime does not apply to people who are list candidates only. Any spending by those candidates promoting the party is an election expense of the party.

    Where does this place someone like Colin Graig who gives his own money in excess of $25,000 to his own Conservative Party? Is it an expense to him or a donation to the Party?

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  17. minus (218 comments) says:

    Keeping Stock – What will Sue Bradford have to say about that?

    Audrey Young tells you– Party member and former Green MP Sue Bradford has spoken against the proposal from the outset but it is thought to have the support of not only Mr Harawira but also president Annette Sykes and vice-president John Minto.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11262282

    Oh … OK. So, still, What will Sue Bradford have to say about that?

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  18. Ross12 (1,454 comments) says:

    So this deal with Hone and KDC/Internet Party –when are the Greens and Labour going to start screaming about “cosy deals” or does that only happen if a cup of tea is involved ??

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  19. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    Greens announce massive insulation spend? Don’t they believe in global warming?

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  20. Manolo (14,040 comments) says:

    What difference does it make?
    http://news.yahoo.com/pope-netanyahu-spar-over-jesus-native-language-140042705.html;_ylt=AwrBEiG1YYNToS8A9ZLQtDMD

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  21. Manolo (14,040 comments) says:

    Congratulations to Kim Dotcom and Hone Harawira on their engagement.

    Can you imagine the obese German crook deflowering the illiterate Maori thug? Arghhhh.

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  22. MT_Tinman (3,255 comments) says:

    The slime are outdoing themselves today.

    I have just learnt from the Whoreald that police have found what appears to be a body in a cemetery and that some rich Pom has a bum – that is not as big as something called a kardishan – whatever that is.

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  23. MT_Tinman (3,255 comments) says:

    Manolo (12,850 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 10:20 am
    What difference does it make?
    http://news.yahoo.com/pope-netanyahu-spar-over-jesus-native-language-140042705.html;_ylt=AwrBEiG1YYNToS8A9ZLQtDMD

    It obviously means that at least this time Jew boy is not speaking with forked tongue. ;-)

    (I bet you can’t give me the source of that phrase. :-) )

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  24. Fletch (6,488 comments) says:

    Agree with EAD except that I’m not a AGW skeptic and I’m not opposed to gay marriage as it is biological not bad behaviour.

    According to Brendan O’Neill from Sp!ked Online, gay marriage has been ‘weaponized’ and is just the vehicle for the bringing in of liberal values. That’s why it has been pushed so hard by those in power.

    The question is: why? Why has the gay-marriage issue been such a shrill and intolerant affair? It isn’t because some campaigners are overly keen and a bit hotheaded; it’s because gay marriage is not actually a campaign to expand equality, far less freedom, but is better seen as the main mechanism through which modern society now challenges traditional cultural norms, through which society expresses its dislocation from, and its growing disdain for, the old-world values of family life, family sovereignty, long-term commitment, loyalty, and so on.

    Gay marriage has emerged as the perfect means through which our post-traditional, relativistic elites can both subtly denigrate older values and also impose a set of whole new values, related to viewing traditional married life and family integrity as problematic, and therefore more individuated, changeable forms of human relationships as good. And because this is fundamentally about eradicating old moral values and enforcing new ones, it constantly verges on being coercive, expressing a hostility towards its opponents that tends to treat them, not simply as wrong or pesky, but as actual blocks, as ‘ideological enemies’, to the elite’s attempted enforcement of a new moral outlook.

    One of the most striking developments in Western societies in recent years has been the sacralisation of homosexuality, the transformation of sexuality from a simple matter of who you have sex with into a set of values and behaviours. In a very short period of time, historically speaking, homosexuality has gone from being a crime to being possibly the most celebrated way of life in modern Western nations. Indeed, such has been the sacralisation of homosexuality, everywhere from popular culture to the political sphere, that the criminals are now those who criticise gay sex, not those who have it.

    There are various reasons for this move from decriminalising homosexuality, which was a very good thing, to the sanctification of homosexuality, which is just weird. But the main one is that over the past two decades, the gay issue has evolved as the perfect way for the new elites to distance themselves from values that have fallen out of their favour. We have seen the weaponisation of homosexuality, the transformation of it by sections of the political and media classes into the focal point for the expression of hostility to the straight world – which means not just people who are sexually straight, but also so-called straight culture and straight values, straightlacedness itself, ways of life that are based on commitment, privacy, familial sovereignty, things that tend to be viewed by the modern cultural clerisy as outdated or, worse, dangerous and destructive. The sacralisation of homosexuality corresponds precisely with the growing denigration by the state and others of the sphere of the family and the ideals of lifelong commitment, because celebrating gayness has become the main and most PC means through which traditional values might be dented and traditional identities called into question, even thrown open to heightened official scrutiny.

    This is what explains both the peculiarly speedy and strikingly authoritarian way in which gay marriage has been adopted by governments across the West who otherwise care little for freedom and choice – because officials recognise in it the opportunity to push further their instinctive hostility towards traditional communal and familial ideals that to a large extent exist outside of the purview of the state. Understanding the impulse behind Western officialdom’s feverish adoption of gay marriage is key to understanding what makes this new institution so illiberal and intolerant. Its great driving force is not any commitment to civil rights but rather an urge to coerce, a desire to reshape the views and ideals and habits of the public, to enforce a new morality that elevates individuation over family life, risk-awareness over commitment, and an openness to being guided through life by experts over loyalty to one’s family unit or community.

    Worth reading the whole thing – http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/same-sex-marriage-coercion-dolled-up-as-civil-rights/14967

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  25. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    This is appalling….accustomed to religio/conservative aficionados of GD keeping me up to date with all the heinous crime from around the world it was left to the MSM to cover the sentencing of yet another boy-botherer.

    ….”A judge was forced to halt his sentencing of a Victorian paedophile priest after he became visibly upset while speaking about his ‘evil’ crimes.”…..

    ….”Klep, who was a priest, teacher and for a time principal at the school, abused the boys between 1974 and 1983.”…..

    ….”He often targeted boys who had been sent to the school’s infirmary and once pinned a boy down on a bed and raped him.”…..

    Ref: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639294/Your-conduct-plummets-depths-evil-hypocrisy-Judge-breaks-TEARS-sentencing-paedophile-priest-10-years-jail-abusing-boys-nine-year-period.html

    Strange that all those contributors to this forum who claim to know far better than us how we should live our lives could miss this same snippet of news.

    Better luck next time.

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  26. martinh (1,257 comments) says:

    Well done to the police on the alleged homicide arrest in Birkdale

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  27. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    A very interesting piece Nasska, but 10 years is not enough for that parasite !~

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  28. stephieboy (3,383 comments) says:

    Fletch, good one as as far it goes but do keep us updated about the latest the Holy Father has to to say about Pedophile priests just for some balance ,

    http://www.catholic.org/news/hf/faith/story.php?id=54000

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  29. Scott Chris (6,176 comments) says:

    The more you do for people, the less they will do for themselves…

    I disagree. There is a happy mediium:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructional_scaffolding

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  30. Manolo (14,040 comments) says:

    Another day, another murder: http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbcri/1440261454-police-to-search-cemetery-for-blessie

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  31. Scott Chris (6,176 comments) says:

    I’m not a AGW skeptic and I’m not opposed to gay marriage

    Ah, there’s hope for you yet hj, if only we can convince you that the housing bubble is a supply side problem not one of excessive immigration.

    BTW, what did you make of Peters’ ‘Jimmy Saville’ smear of Horan?

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  32. Scott Chris (6,176 comments) says:

    Another day, another murder

    The murder rate is declining Manolo. Society is progressing.

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  33. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    So the BIG Spenders are at it again.

    The Government is set to increase paid parental leave by $16 per week from July 1.

    From July the maximum payment for eligible employees and self-employed persons will increase from $488.17 per week to $504.10 gross per week.

    Labour Minister and Tauranga MP Simon Bridges annouced the rise today.

    Labour Minister Simon Bridges says the increase reflects a 3.3 per cent increase in the average weekly wage during the past year.

    Under the Parental Leave and Employment Protection Act 1987, parents eligible for the scheme are entitled to up to 14 weeks paid leave at a rate calculated on the basis of their average weekly earnings.

    – See more at: http://sunlive.co.nz/news/73225-paid-parental-leave-to-rise.html#sthash.KSOH2GDR.dpuf

    And its odds on certianty they are going to increase the number of weeks as well.

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  34. Manolo (14,040 comments) says:

    With the incompetent third-rate lawyer Greg Presland at the helm, the divas, queers, and effeminates at The sub-Standard show their love for DPF: http://thestandard.org.nz/david-farrar-is-still-the-hypocrite/

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  35. PhilP (163 comments) says:

    @ Nasska & stigie

    Nothing wrong with a bit of Boy Bothering!

    Now this will get all you lot in a lather haha!!

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  36. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    @ PhilP
    Hope Reddy doesnt see that comment ole chap, otherwise you will get a big serve !~

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  37. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    I see that a 27 year old piece of shit has been arrested for murdering a person whose body was found in a cemetery.

    Record as long as ones arm no doubt. Out on parole would be a certainty would it not.

    When will we learn?

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  38. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwilv6huxn6fzed/Muslim%205.jpg

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  39. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    n’arse kisser

    Thanks for keeping us updated on your obsession against the catholic Church.

    Meanwhile ,no shortage of freaks in other walks of life.Probably a few truck drivers in there. Dodgy lot them.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5115514/Serial-killers-working-as-lorry-drivers-have-murdered-500-women-across-US.html

    http://www.wwltv.com/news/Dozens-of-arrests-made-in-massive-child-porn-ring-250900701.html

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  40. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    That’s what surprised me kowtow….you manage to uncover killer truck drivers & child pornographers half a world away yet you & your mates never said a dicky bird about the boy fiddler across the ditch.

    A person with less faith in you than I might suspect that you were trying to do a cover up for your fellow left footer. :)

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  41. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    Look what I uncovered Nassty#

    NEW ORLEANS — A massive child pornography investigation has led to the arrest of dozens of accused predators across the country, including a New Orleans man and the alleged mastermind operating from Abita Springs.

    Investigators say the sexual exploitation involves tens of thousands of predators and hundreds of underage boys.

    According to court records just unsealed this week, 27-year-old Jonathan Scott Johnson ran two secret, subscriber-only web sites out of the home he shared with his parents in Abita Springs.

    Investigators call it “a child exploitation enterprise” with more than 27,000 members and an “unprecedented” number of victims — 251 children from 39 states and five foreign countries. **************All but eight of the victims were teenage boys.*********

    So far, 160 victims have been identified and/or rescued, according to U.S. Attorney Kenneth Polite.

    “That is a process that is certainly underway both within the United States as well as abroad,” Polite said. “And that work will certainly continue as we identify additional potential victims.”

    ***************According to investigators, most of the victims were between the ages of 13 and 15. But two were under the age of three.***********

    ***************And the enterprise allegedly tutored subscribers on how to pose as teenage girls to persuade unsuspecting teen boys to provide pornographic content.

    “Getting these children to take egregious pictures, exploitative pictures from their home and send those images and videos to the predators,” said Patrick Redling, Unit Chief of the Child Exploitation Investigations Unit (CEIU).************

    The enterprise gathered some 2,000 videos, plus an astonishing number of photos.

    “It was 40 terabytes. It was five times the size of all the information stored by the Library of Congress,” said Dan Ragsdale, deputy director for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

    *************************************

    It’s gays that are the real and clear threat to young males Nasska – not priests from the long lost past of the 60’s 70’s and 80’s.

    Boys don’t have connection with priests in this day and age ———- but gays———–they’re everywhere ——–teaching, scouts, sports……………

    You’ll probably find that there is even one hiding in your closet! :cool:

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  42. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    Still go to the Salesian College Old Boys functions Harriet?

    Those were the days. :)

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  43. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    “You’ll probably find that there is even one hiding in your closet!”

    If thats the case then Harriet, they will be in everyones closet !~

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  44. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    ‘You’ve got a friend in Jesus’.

    Unless of course you attended a Catholic Boarding School, in which case Jesus probably had a friend in you.

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  45. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Viking2 (10,930 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Have they explained to those few applicable parent’s getting the extra payments that whilst they will have that quality time with their babies, the same government that has given them this benefit, has restricted their child’s life chances?

    By removing money from other areas to put extra into Science and Technology, should their little darling grow up and not be mathematically orientated, and like the PM’s daughter, find their talent is in the arts or other non-targeted areas, they will find it difficult to gain a tertiary education unless their parents save for that.

    The government giveth but it forgets to point out, it taketh as well.

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  46. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    You’ll probably find that there is even one hiding in your closet!

    Damn Harriet, you got my hopes up, here I was thinking menage a trois as I tore open the closet door – only to find it empty of humans, however, I did find that old hat I’ve been looking for since last winter.

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  47. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    “……By removing money from other areas to put extra into Science and Technology, should their little darling grow up and not be mathematically orientated, and like the PM’s daughter, find their talent is in the arts or other non-targeted areas, they will find it difficult to gain a tertiary education unless their parents save for that….”

    Dearest Judith………..you know that’s not entirely true………….as just last night you explained to me that undergraduates could get a degree where research and statistics were involved…….and that you were an educator/lecturer….and that it was post grad ed that needed students who were more mathmaticly inclined in your current area of work. :cool:

    Maths is generally dumbed down -so to speak- in degrees that don’t need a large emphisis on maths – the operations are shown but the theory is broadly explained so that the students ‘grasp the concept’. Degrees foe everyone is what it is about.

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  48. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    No surprises n’arse,unlike you I don’t trawl the internet for filth.Filth relating to your sick obsession.

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  49. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    ….”unlike you I don’t trawl the internet for filth”….

    No need to kowtow…..I opened the Dom/Post when I came in for lunch & there it was.

    Section B, Page 1…..entitled, “Judge in Tears”.

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  50. kowtow (8,755 comments) says:

    Don’t have to go half a world away either……..

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4781787/NZ-men-near-top-of-global-paedophile-ring

    But hey, let’s just talk about those dirty Catholics, eh bro?

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  51. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet (4,086 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 8:07 pm

    In my area, yes, but I acknowledge that there are people (probably an equal balance) that are not mathematically orientated, and therefore are not sufficiently able to compete in the Science and Technology fields which is dominated by those that are so inclined, leaving no space for the strugglers.

    Should those people forget about aspiring to anything, and instead prepare themselves to work at macdonalds, or pack groceries instead because the government limits funding to the areas they can excel in?

    I have no problem with the government providing extra funding for maths and science, but I do have a problem with them taking it, like they are planning to, from other areas.

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  52. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    >
    >
    > A Muslim wife complains to her husband that all the romance had gone out of their marriage.
    >
    > “Remember when you used to carry me up to bed?” she asked.
    >
    > Yeah,” he replied, “But be fair, you were only eleven at the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  53. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    ….”But hey, let’s just talk about those dirty Catholics, eh bro?”….

    Well it is more fun kowtow. When a layman or an atheist falls from grace we condemn him for his actions & punish him.

    But when someone who preaches God’s word, God’s love for children, the evils of homosexuality & the virtues of piety is caught bumming choirboys he falls a lot further.

    And as you know the further the drop the bigger the mess. :)

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  54. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    Shit, just a thought, i might get banned for that !

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  55. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    milkey will never admit that it’s the Catholics fault that HOBM get to playoff in the Hardham cup instead of the Jubilee nasska.

    Even though he knows it true! :)

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  56. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Most likely you’ll get to have to hide for the rest of your life like Salman stigie! :)

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  57. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    Yeah I see your cause for concern Judith, as I often wonder what the least brightest are going to do for work in a post-manufacturing era, as in the past people like Narss could load, drive, and unload trucks. Anybody could hold down a job. :cool:

    But seriously, where I live it is mainly a retirement, tourism, and young families region. That may look good at first but when you dig deeper you find that nearly all work for the young is in aged care, retail and hospitality – all low paid, shift work, and little chance of climbing a ladder – the ladder is really one of those two step things that male toddlers use to go to the toilet on.

    There are of course lots of jobs relating to aged healthcare – radiology ect, but you cannot be trained in those within the region so most of those jobs get advertised in Brisbane for qualified staff. The young ones then leave the region to work or train in Brisbane or interstate.

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  58. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    Hope not Johnboy, if one prays long and hard for forgiveness, his holiness may consider ones road back !~

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  59. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    I’ve got a nice little line in indulgences for sale stigie……as a fellow KB commenter I’ll give you 20% off for cash. :)

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  60. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Best place to hide is in plain view stigie. Just hang about here among the rest of the apostates! :)

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  61. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    Narse that was a joke what I said to Judith – I wasn’t being serious. I’ve only ever had a job as a chef – or related fields.

    I know…………..it is hard to believe that Judith is far more educated than us. :cool:

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  62. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet (4,087 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    It is a worry Harriet, because I believe the young have to have things to aspire to, or else they simply give up and take their ‘highs’ by artificial means. Most communities no longer have moral guidelines, that incorporate decent work ethics, let alone other boundaries.

    When my parents were children, there was still the worlds highest mountain to climb. When I was a child, there was so much that could still be achieved, we had a choice to be virtually anything we wanted if we were prepared to work hard enough.

    That has changed. Even the hardest work will not necessarily fund what is needed to for a decent qualification. It appears only those with technology skills can make it big – but at what cost to humanity? The loss of verbal and written communication skills will eventually take its toll IMO.

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  63. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    Thanks guys, with Nasskas line and Johnboys good sense, i am starting to come around !~

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  64. stephieboy (3,383 comments) says:

    Harriet ,could you link that item 7.52 pm about New Orleans pedophile rings and busts suggesting this all caused by the prevalence of gays.?

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  65. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    Judith said ——– “…..The loss of verbal and written communication skills will eventually take its toll IMO…..”

    ….IMO…..

    See Nasska…………..it is fucken hard to believe. :cool:

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  66. nasska (11,788 comments) says:

    ….” a joke what I said to Judith – I wasn’t being serious”….

    That’s the way I took it Harriet.

    When you get a chance, print this out, get it laminated & hang it in the shower…..could save you from mortal sin should you get a bit carried away & start washing things too fast. :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rfh88uhu7fwrm2/worstsinbh0.gif

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  67. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    When you were a child you were probably still a nice little girl Judith! :)

    (When my old man was three the Wright Brothers flew….He loved watching Armstrong taking his first small step! :) )

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  68. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet (4,088 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    Not hard to believe at all Harriet.

    I am a really shy person. Whilst I can type fast, casual conversations are not my thing. I can give a presentation to a large audience, but approach me in person and try to have a casual conversation, and you’d end up doing all the talking. I can perform professionally way above the level I can operate at personally. It’s been a fault my whole life. My teachers investigated me for cheating when I achieved over 80% in School Cert. I’d never presented a single piece of work/homework, or taken part in any class activities. My family think its hilarious that I can talk to 300 people, but hide from the neighbours to avoid talking to them when possible. But try to intimidate me or my loved ones and the mouse becomes a bolshy bitch! :-)

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  69. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Boring 300 people at once is quite a skill Judith….have you considered a career in politics or the church? :)

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  70. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (13,831 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    I did consider joining the Harikrisna movement until someone pointed out to me they only have sex for reproductive purposes.

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  71. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Minus old chap….you missed one at 8:27! :)

    Got it I see. A bit slow tonight you were…..playing with yourself were you? :)

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  72. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Indeed Judith and we wouldn’t want to be reproducing any more like you I suspect! :)

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  73. stigie (1,311 comments) says:

    Almost 10000 Nasska, You may just get there before the erection. Great stuff.

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  74. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (13,833 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    Hell no! I’m one of a kind. The world wasn’t prepared enough for me – god knows what would happen if there were enough of me to form a political party! :P

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  75. Harriet (5,118 comments) says:

    Judith I was having a go at the fact you were saying you were concerned at the loss of verbal and written communication skills………..only to then end that single sentence with mutant txt speech……IMO.

    I myself have to correct all my spelling mistakes on KB – all the time – not that I wasn’t good at spelling at school, but the fact was that when I left school and became a chef – all and any further written communication stopped. Most days I diidn’t even need to know the date!!! You don’t really need to know anything other than being able to read – and some very basic maths.

    I learnt next to no generic skills as a chef which is a huge disadvantage if you want to leave and do something else. At least those doing basic office work at the local garage may find the same work at telecom – and can then start climb the ladder.You have to retrain from scratch as a chef to do something else. That’s the down side of trades – which I think will be the problem for a lot of young people after CH-CH is rebuilt.

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  76. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    You could be bigger than DotCom Judith. :)

    Hone might take a liking to you…..how much money have you got? :)

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  77. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    I bet you have great recipes for Harriecot beans Harriet?

    See I can’t spell either and I’m a captain of industry! :)

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  78. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (13,835 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    I’m 165 cms tall and my labrador takes me for walks. I would have to do a hell of a lot of eating and growing to be anything like KimDotcom. I would also need to do a lot of saving and rob a few banks.

    I’ve had written conversation with Hone – it didn’t end well. I think we’ve mutually decided that friendship is highly unlikely.

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  79. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Harriet

    I’ve been looking for a man that can cook my whole life. How does your wife feel about Polygamy?

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  80. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    If you’re also 165cms in diameter Judith Dotcom may hire you as a minihim! :)

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  81. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (13,836 comments) says:
    May 27th, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    If I was 165cm round, my dog might actually let me decide where we are going to walk, and listen to me, instead of treating me like a servant. She got her attitude from the cat.

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  82. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Nasty creatures cats. Gareth’s got the right idea. We should hollow them all out and sell them to Siberians as winter headgear! :)

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  83. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Lovely evening. Thanks team. Must pop off and check out the pornos before my viagra wears off! :)

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  84. Viking2 (11,561 comments) says:

    We awake to another systemic failure of the Justice system.
    We awake to the same old story.
    Despite spending millions upon millions on NZ’s select group we still have to put up with the distress caused by members of that group.
    Isn’t it time we looked hard at the leadership and asked them about why after all this money and effort by the rest of us their people continue to behave badly.

    Oh and yes its their people.”Our People” according to them.

    so when are they going to fix this behavoir.
    Clearly the taxpayer and the colonial settlers can’t do that.

    Death of Blessie: Inside the early-morning arrest

    By Vaimoana Tapaleao, Anna Leask
    Updated 6:05 AM Wednesday May 28, 2014

    Assault and Homicide
    Crime

    Accused was known to authorities and was under supervision.

    The man accused of murdering Blessie Gotingco is known to authorities.

    The 27-year-old was arrested early yesterday, just hours after the 56-year-old mother-of-three’s body was found in an area of bush at the Birkenhead-Glenfield cemetery on Eskdale Rd.

    He will appear in the North Shore District Court this morning charged with murder. For legal reasons the Herald cannot name the man or publish details of his past.

    As the matter was before the courts, police could not comment on the man or how he and Mrs Gotingco’s paths crossed. But it is understood that soon after she went missing, the man was identified as a possible suspect.

    Reports suggest he is a male Maori. AGAIN.

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  85. PhilP (163 comments) says:

    I have often wondered where Redbaiter sits on the political spectrum. He’s a CC sympathizer but seems to me he would be a good fit for ACT with his views. What do you think?

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