Greens seeking seven Ministers

May 30th, 2014 at 11:00 am by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

In four months, Green MPs could become government ministers for the first time in their party’s 24-year history.

The final make-up of a Labour- government would depend on several factors, in particular the role of NZ First in a possible coalition.

But if Greens are part of the government and portfolios are divided proportionally, they could expect to have up to seven ministers.

Maybe even more. They could be a third of the Government caucus, and hence get say nine out of 28 ministerial slots.

The Greens want significant portfolios in three areas – economic, social issues and environment.

Doesn’t leave much! I suppose we should be grateful they don’t want Defence!

Labour has ruled out giving Green co-leader Russel Norman the finance portfolio. He is expected to fight for the economic development role.

But he might not be trusted to manage a portfolio which includes oil exploration and mining. Instead, it could be split between two people, and Dr Norman put in charge of green investment or green innovation.

The Greens have unveiled a proposal for a $120 million Green Investment Bank, for which Dr Norman could be made responsible.

Co-leader Metiria Turei would seek a prominent social issues portfolio. It is understood that she has her heart set on being minister of education.

Shudder. The Greens in charge of the country’s education system.

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37 Responses to “Greens seeking seven Ministers”

  1. dubya (222 comments) says:

    “Shudder. The Greens in charge of the country’s education system”

    Given some of the made up shit I was ‘taught’ by History and Geography teachers at Hutt Valley High School, I am fairly sure the Greens have already made significant inroads into public education. FFS, once they made us watch ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ and present it as fact with no counter argument.

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  2. David Garrett (6,723 comments) says:

    Shudder. The Greens in charge of ANYTHING… I guess they could make the fat one Minister of Food Safety and the Australian Minister for recycling…cheaper and better for the country to set up a couple of minor bureaucracies and pay them a ministerial salary than let them anywhere near the levers of real power…

    Lets just hope the polls stay the way they are, and this is all academic…

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  3. burt (8,005 comments) says:

    Shudder. The Greens in charge of the country’s education system.

    Put the greens in charge of scientific research – they could slash the budget to zero immediately because we know everything we need to know about science already to the point that we can implement global policies enforced on all governments. The science is settled …

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  4. georgebolwing (679 comments) says:

    The most effective ad the National Party could run is a mock-up of the swearing-in photo of the Labour/Greens/NZ First/Mana/Internet ministry. Out of respect, they shouldn’t include the Governor-General, but one look at what is on offer should be enough to win the election.

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  5. RightNow (6,836 comments) says:

    If Winston gets over the line he’ll want at least 3 cabinet spots. I expect the IMP would want a seat at the big table, as would Maori.

    I think our credit rating would be downgraded pretty quickly. Perhaps that’s the left’s grand economic plan to devalue our currency?

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  6. burt (8,005 comments) says:

    Speaking of swearing in – did anyone see the Internet Party clip where Hone & Dotcom arrive. Hone looked very subservient following quietly behind Dotcom and being seated away from the center of the stage …. How long can this sucking up for cash last before his true colours come out and he starts calling Dotcom a filthy rich white M-F##ker ?

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  7. Bob (495 comments) says:

    I can’t see Labour getting on with the Greens in the long run. Labour are reasonably sensible. For instance Labour brokered the FTA with China which is now so beneficial to us. One thing I am sure of if that lot get their hands on power they will be out on their ears in 2017 after the public have had a taste of them.

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  8. Raphael (79 comments) says:

    Counting chickens before they’ve hatched

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  9. burt (8,005 comments) says:

    Bob

    Labour are reasonably sensible.

    If you can call pushing an ideology that has never worked anywhere “sensible” then you have failed to understand the Labour party.

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  10. peterwn (3,210 comments) says:

    And suppose David Cunliffe just says ‘nix’ to the Greens and offers Winston just enough baubles to keep him happy. What can the Greens do? Have a tanty? If they effectively force an election, this just plays into National’s hands. National could keep Labour on just sufficient ‘life support’ until timing is right for an election. Perversely it is in National’s interests for Labour to have about 35% of the vote. If the Labour vote were 25% or less it becomes highly vulnerable to minor party pressure.

    If the Greens were really flexing their muscles, they would be demanding by now a deal to get the Wellington Central or Rongotai seat. But not a whisper about this. Just so much wistful thinking on part of the Greens to have 7 ministers.

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  11. davidp (3,556 comments) says:

    So, Greens with 7 cabinet positions: Norman, Turei, Hague, Sage, Hughes, Delahunty, and Graham.

    IM will want 2: Harawira, and Harre at Justice.

    NZ First will probably want at least 4: Peters, Martin, Williams, and Prosser assuming their list is unchanged from 2011. And maybe Stewart.

    That doesn’t leave much for Labour. Assuming Cunliffe and the GIMPs squeeze out a win in September, there are going to be a lot of dissatisfied Labour MPs sitting on the back benches. And who will be the Deputy PM? I can’t imagine Peters will be happy with Turei and Norman as Co-deputy PMs, so maybe we’ll end up with three?

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  12. burt (8,005 comments) says:

    davidp

    Those dissatisfied Labour MPs on the back benches will just be happy that Mallard, King & Goff are still ranked high in the party rather than resign and give the party a chance to reclaim the treasury benches.

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  13. kowtow (7,922 comments) says:

    “Raphael (66 comments) says:
    May 30th, 2014 at 11:28 am
    Counting chickens before they’ve hatched

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    Free range and organic only . There’ll be a minister for animal equality. A minister for animal welfare.And a Co Prime Minister for the Country, Animal Farm.

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  14. Tarquin North (207 comments) says:

    If these cretins get anywhere near the levers of power We’ll all be taking the great leap backwards. At least immigration and house prices won’t be an issue any more.

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  15. jp_1983 (200 comments) says:

    Don’t forget the Minister for Silly Walks

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  16. Redbaiter (8,001 comments) says:

    Some of them might even be as bad as Nick Smith.

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  17. macdee (38 comments) says:

    hasn’t Metiria talked about the possibility of her and Russel being joint Deputy PMs!!

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  18. lastmanstanding (1,240 comments) says:

    If the Coalition from Hell Labour/Greens/NZ First/Internet/Mana even looks like occupying the Treasury Benches watch as capital flows out of the country big time. The dollar will tank interest rates and inflation will soar.

    Markets don’t like uncertainly and they don’t like Left wing nutbars at the helm of the economy.

    The irony is the votes for the Coalition from Hell will be the biggest losers. Those on low incomes. Those with a mortgage. they will suffer big time.

    The smart money will move out of NZX and move their Kiwisaver funds to cash funds and ride it out nicely with lovely jubbley high interest rates.

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  19. spanish_tudor (56 comments) says:

    davidp:

    Winston will have learnt from the 1996-1996 train wreck; he won’t have any other NZF MPs as ministers.

    He’ll keep all the baubles for himself.

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  20. Unity (399 comments) says:

    The Greens getting any MPs is enough to make me want to depart this country. But where to?

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  21. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (833 comments) says:

    Please do not forget my nominees Lying Laila for Justice Minister and Horny Hone for Maori Affairs Minister…….

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  22. Sir Cullen's Sidekick (833 comments) says:

    “Mez payz 4 million for free interznet for Kiwiz….I don’tz wantz anything in return” – FatCon.

    “A very generous and noble donation for a good cause” – Sole selling Laila.

    Why NZ still exists as a country?

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  23. Richard Hurst (796 comments) says:

    ”The Greens have unveiled a proposal for a $120 million Green Investment Bank, for which Dr Norman could be made responsible”.

    Green Investment Bank= Taxpayer Subsidy for R. Normans mates for schemes that no sane person would fund.

    ”I suppose we should be grateful they don’t want Defence!”

    They don’t want defence because there won’t be a defence force to be minister of. Haven’t you read their policy statements?

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  24. Rightandleft (655 comments) says:

    I would have some concerns around the Greens running education. Their platform includes a lot of changes to the actual Curriculum around the Treaty and climate change that would insert politics into it. All political parties have wisely stayed away from making such attempts in the past and they could set a dangerous precedent.

    I know they also want to prevent schools from pushing parents to pay the voluntary donations. That worries me because without those donations schools will be unable to afford a lot of core curriculum delivery unless there is a matching increase in funding from the government. But as the Greens won’t be in charge of Treasury that is far from certain.

    I also worry about all the Nanny-state policies they’d try to push onto schools.

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  25. ciaron (1,387 comments) says:

    But he might not be trusted to manage a portfolio which includes oil exploration and mining. Instead, it could be split between two people, and Dr Norman put in charge of green investment or green innovation.

    Oh, for fucks sake! someone just give him a flag and tell him to play in the corner.

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  26. mikenmild (11,246 comments) says:

    ‘Their platform includes a lot of changes to the actual Curriculum around the Treaty and climate change that would insert politics into it’
    Could you reference any specific changes proposed by the Greens to politicise the curriculum?

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  27. All_on_Red (1,488 comments) says:

    “Could you reference any specific changes proposed by the Greens to politicise the curriculum?”

    I doubt we could because the Greens deliberately are vague on such matters because if they did, that would provide evidence of what their true agenda is. However we can look overseas to see what Green Party influence has done to other curriculums.
    Lots of stuff from this link on how it’s being done in the UK
    http://schoolsimprovement.net/guest-post-teachers-classroom-campaigning-climate-change/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=guest-post-teachers-classroom-campaigning-climate-change

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  28. Bullion (74 comments) says:

    “Shudder. The Greens in charge of the country’s education system”

    Given some of the made up shit I was ‘taught’ by History and Geography teachers at Hutt Valley High School, I am fairly sure the Greens have already made significant inroads into public education. FFS, once they made us watch ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ and present it as fact with no counter argument.
    Well, the scientific consensus is overwhelmingly in favour of AGW. Shouldn’t they be teaching the scientific consensus or should they also teach the counter argument to things like the moon landing.

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  29. NoCash (256 comments) says:

    Just like I’m already planning how to spend the $23 million Powerball winning this weekend.

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  30. All_on_Red (1,488 comments) says:

    “Well, the scientific consensus is overwhelmingly in favour of AGW. ”

    Absolutely. The thing is, there is no consensus on DANGEROUS AGW and that’s what they try to promote.

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  31. All_on_Red (1,488 comments) says:

    Here’s the Greens seven Ministers.
    Minister for Corporate Cronyism for Clean Tech and doing what Greenpeace says
    Minister for collecting Cash for voiding Extraditions
    Minister for Screwing over Big Corporates we don’t like. (Coal, Oil,any US coy etc)
    Minister for Making Cars illegal and Bikes for Everyone
    Minister for Hemp
    Minister for Getting My Flag Back
    Minister for Nice Jackets and Preserving Castles ( lots of time touring Europes castles and fashion houses- plus size only)

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  32. Judith (8,389 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red (1,163 comments) says:
    May 30th, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    Minister for Corporate Cronyism for Clean Tech and doing what Greenpeace says

    Do you prefer National’s all embracing approach of making all their MP’s ‘Ministers for Political Cronyism’?

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  33. goldnkiwi (1,152 comments) says:

    A Minister for hemp industries would be okay.

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  34. Manolo (13,514 comments) says:

    Seven Green ministers will bring about the ruination of New Zealand. A disaster of catastrophic proportions.

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  35. FeralScrote (121 comments) says:

    The blatantly corrupt Russell Norman does not appear to have heard of the old adage about not counting your chickens etc.
    If this coalition of losers do manage to cobble together enough to steal the election ,where pray tell, will the re-education camps be sited?

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  36. Fisiani (992 comments) says:

    Every day I contemplate the catastrophe of six years of recovery from never ending deficits being blown away by three years of a Labour/Green/Internet/Mana/NZF coalition government. It explains why every day I ask people who do you want as PM? When they tell me that they want John Key I point out that the only way to get this is to Party Vote National. If they fret about the environment but want John Key as PM I point out that Party Vote National is the only option but they could candidate vote for the Green to give National a signal.

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  37. Bad__Cat (140 comments) says:

    If the Greens really want to have 7 ministers they should start a church.

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