General Debate 19 June 2014

June 19th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Yvette (2,854 comments) says:

    Poll shows Labour’s support plummeting

    But, and for some this may give the delight of more to look forward to – merde, I hope so – the poll [Fairfax/Ipsos political poll] surveyed 1014 people between June 14 and 17, so does not actually include the revelation of yesterday’s [18th] letter to confirm Cunliffe really doesn’t know what he is doing, or did – to put it kindly :-)

    While his Caucus stand so firmly behind him [with daggers drawn] as the pre-election window opens, allowing them to dump Cunliffe without triggering the wider vote of the entire party’s membership – or needing secret six month loans :-) – they should all know that this is not the lowest … it doesn’t cover yesterday’s debacle, so it can get worse yet.

    [Hint to Cunliffe staff: if you can’t find the copy you sent, most letters have two people involved, so ask the recipient, Immigration, for their copy, huh?]

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  2. hj (7,067 comments) says:

    NORMAN LAMONT: The people have spoken on mass immigration. So will the political class hear them?

    For years, those who dared question the policy of mass immigration — including this newspaper — were shouted down as reactionary or plain racist.

    But this week, a major new survey was published that revealed a dramatic hardening of attitudes by the British people as a whole towards immigration.

    The 31st British Social Attitudes survey, by the country’s leading independent social research institute, found 95 per cent believe speaking English is an essential requirement of Britishness — up from 86 per cent a decade ago.

    Not only that, nearly four out of five want immigration cut. And interestingly, from my point of view as a former Chancellor of the Exchequer, fewer than one in three thinks the mass influx has been good for the economy.

    The Government-funded study, which is utterly apolitical, reveals the ‘disconnect’ between the people and the political class over immigration. That is why such attitudes should be ignored by politicians at their peril.

    Fifty years ago, when annual levels of immigration were far lower, new arrivals could more easily be absorbed within British society. Indeed, migrants fully expected to be integrated into our national culture.

    Today, however, this process has become much more difficult, not only because of the soaring rate of immigration, but also because of the emphasis on multiculturalism — a policy that carries the real danger of promoting the ‘Balkanisation’ of our society into separate communities.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2660839/NORMAN-LAMONT-The-people-spoken-mass-immigration-So-political-class-hear-them.html#ixzz351Qbfy3K

    62% of NZr’s want immigration reduced.
    “Despite Mr Key being on the wrong side of public opinion, he [ Key] won’t budge.
    http://www.3news.co.nz/David-Cunliffe-blames-migrants-for-housing-crisis/tabid/1607/articleID/345855/Default.aspx#ixzz33jj2pF7w

    Cunliffes been speaking out of both sides of his mouth.

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  3. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Well I think David Cunliffe is the kindest and loveliest man who ever worked for the national party.

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  4. hj (7,067 comments) says:

    Poll shows Labour’s support plummeting
    Poll shows support for progressives plummeting.

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  5. lilman (968 comments) says:

    Saw Judith Collins on TV this morning sitting beside Grant Robinson and have to say that was a hell of a grin she was sporting.

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  6. Chuck Bird (4,929 comments) says:

    This is bloody outrageous. The judge should be sacked and the mother charged as well.

    No jail for impregnating 14-year-old
    By Derek Cheng
    2:40 PM Wednesday Jun 18, 2014

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11276650

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  7. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    HJ #

    “…….If the Joneses were somehow gaining access to the Smith’s home, squatting there and slowly taking over while the police refused to enforce trespassing laws, no one would wonder if the Smiths objected. The fact that Joneses aren’t Smiths would be explanation enough.

    Or let’s say that millions of Chinese were flooding the Ivory Coast, were supplanting African culture and threatening to soon outnumber the Africans. Would we be surprised if the Ivorians were up in arms? Would anthropologists call the transformation anything but cultural genocide?

    Again, though, we call this diversity. But there’s a funny thing about that oh-so necessary quality: It’s only encouraged in Western lands.

    If diversity is such an imperative, why don’t we push it in Saudi Arabia, Japan, Tunisia, or Rwanda?
    And don’t tell me we’re just minding our own business, as Obama thought nothing of parading around Africa last year preaching about homosexual rights.

    The truth is that when liberals say “Our strength lies in our diversity,” they really mean their strength. They’re building a solid socialist majority that won’t blink at leftist corruption because these new arrivals are inured to it — corruption is status quo in their native lands….”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/06/benedict_obamas_invasion_of_america.html

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  8. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “…….This is bloody outrageous…..”

    It is Chuck so I put it up.

    “………A man who impregnated the 14-year-old daughter of the woman he was seeing has avoided a jail sentence.

    The man was sentenced today in the Wellington District Court to 12 months’ home detention with special conditions, followed by 12 months of the same conditions.

    He had pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual connection with a young person.

    He was a trusted member of the victim’s family when he moved in with them in May 2011.

    The girl, whose identity is suppressed, was 13 when the relationship began. She gave birth to a son in July 2013, although the man denied being the father when confronted by social services.

    He admitted the relationship only when DNA testing showed otherwise…….”

    And that’s EXACTLY what single gay men in Wellington will now get for fucking 13yld boys – or they will scream ‘disqimination’ — the slippery slope of the law!!

    It’s a bloody sick society we now live in Chuck – and enabled by the ‘legal system’ !!

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  9. The only red for me is that of Manchester United (62 comments) says:

    Cunliffe using phrases such as “those who don’t support me are scabs” sums up my utter contempt for the man and the party. Horrible socialist bully boy words. A party that doesn’t allow someone to be in individual and to think for themselves. You’re either with us or nothing else. Like the unions.

    Chris Trotter on Radio Live this morning believes that the little known rule around sacking the leader 90 days out from an election was leaked to the media from within Labour. I wouldn’t even let Labour run a children’s birthday party.

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  10. Paulus (2,672 comments) says:

    As Bill Clinton said – “I did not have sex with that Woman” !

    So David Cunliffe says “I did not have any relationship with that Man” !

    And of course the then Minister Barker did not receive any “donation” on behalf of the Labour Party because nobody can find it.!

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  11. Keeping Stock (10,443 comments) says:

    @ lilman – it’s interesting that after three months of trying to “get” Collins and coming up short, Robertson doesn’t want to play “gotcha” politics any more. It’s obviously much more fun being the gettor than being the gettee!

    And you have to admire Judith Collins for resisting the temptation to rub Robertson’s nose in it, given some of the things he has accused her of. But there was a glint in her eye that suggested she knows there’s more to come about Citizen Liu and dodgy, undeclared donations and gifts.

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  12. Komata (1,204 comments) says:

    Has anyone here seen or heard from Penelope (our ‘anti-Corruption Crusader’)?

    Three days, and a nice juicy NZ labour party ‘corruption’ scandal, involving the leader no less, yet absolute silence reigns….

    She seems to be ‘Missing In (in)Action’. . .

    Can someone please find her and tell her there is a ‘Corruption’ case awaiting her attention.

    Thanks.

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  13. Simon (764 comments) says:

    When does the wendyball finish? Going to avoid english papers until its all over.

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  14. fernglas (177 comments) says:

    It’s a sad day for New Zealand politics when the debate at both ends of the spectrum is being fuelled by the antics of a couple of people who shouldn’t even be here.

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  15. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    John Key had lunch at the Clinton’s house.

    Why is he bringing the office of PM down by hanging out with these two sleaze bags? Hillary a liar who is in big trouble over Benghazi and her dereliction of duty that resulted in four dead Americans, and her husband, an alleged rapist and impeached ex president.

    Check the picture for a facial expression that shows just what a fawning idiot JK really is. Its all about the photos he’s going to hang on his wall at home.

    https://twitter.com/Redbaiternz/status/479158654810083328/photo/1

    Wonder why this prog lefty who has destroyed the National Party as an effective political force isn’t visiting Stephen Harper in Canada?

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  16. david (2,564 comments) says:

    What staggers me is the apparent nonchalance expressed by MPs when signing letters. Many of Cunnliffe’s excusers (particularly at the standard and led by lprent) are trotting out the line that the letter was written by a staffer and put in front of Cunnliffe in a big pile of letters to sign, so it is no wonder that he can’t remember.

    To me this is an abuse of position, as what they seem to be saying is that it doesn’t matter if the MP has no knowledge of what he is signing, his signature is enough to elicit some sort of action from a Government Department that an ORDINARY CITIZEN cannot obtain. Not only that but that MPs allow their signature to be attached to pretty much anything when they don’t actually know what they are signing and that they might as well scan their signatures and allow staff to copy and paste little text boxes onto any old correspondence.

    Is it wrong to think that an MP should protect the power of his position and only use it when he is aware of the circumstances and confident that he is doing the right thing? If that is the case, the 10,000 pieces of correspondence signed by David Cunnliffe of his electorate office over the last x years might as well be toilet paper for all the prestige they carry.

    Anyone with electorate office experience care to comment? Certainly expansive use of the MP’s position seems to be de rigeur in the electorate office in which lprent habitually lurks.

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  17. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “……Its all about the photos he’s going to hang on his wall at home…..”

    Would Key seriously be prepared to have his photo taken with Barry at the G20 in Brisbane prior to the election?

    I reckon most world leaders will stay away from Barry as he’s seen as a fool by most people in most countries.

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  18. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Have you re-calibrated your weapons guidance systems Walter?

    You don’t have the numbers to be able to sustain another blue on blue.

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  19. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    david#

    I read the same over at the Standard and thought exactly the same david.

    I think all mp’s and public servants should not have anything at all to do with immigartion as it can so easily become ‘soft corruption’.

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  20. wf (466 comments) says:

    Key for the top job at the UN?

    Don’t laugh.

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  21. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    “I reckon most world leaders will stay away from Barry as he’s seen as a fool.”

    Key won’t.

    He’ll be there in full fawning over LW moron mode,

    Just like he demeaned the Prime Ministers office by appearing on the progressive Letterman show.

    There’s something screwy about JK. The way he came to power within the Nats. The way he has taken them so far left. The way he is so friendly with left wing sleaze bag politicians all over the globe. It would be just too fantastic for him to be a Manchurian Candidate from the left, but if he was, he couldn’t do much better.

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  22. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    Red Thinks key should have gone to visit Sarah…..

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  23. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Maybe he has … hence

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  24. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    Gosh, the hand bag swinging watch tower guard is back as quick as a flash.

    Whoever would have expected that?

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  25. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “……Just like he demeaned the Prime Ministers office by appearing on the progressive Letterman show…….”

    Yeah I see Key on TV in aust from time to time.

    Without vowels it’s almost like he speaks pidgeon english……in the same way that african american gangsters do.

    God only knows what Harper, Cruz et el think.

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  26. Colville (2,300 comments) says:

    I cannot believe anyone would be so stuip as to roll Cun*liffe now.
    Labour is on its way to an utter trouncing and the resulting cleanout will do it the world of good.

    Jude Collins should have been sporting a fairly decent hangover this morning after a well deserved few drinks and laughing her arse off at Cun*liffes squirms !

    The boot is on the other foot now!

    Edit. Ha it took me nearly an hour to finish that comment with all the damm phone calls interupting!

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  27. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    With Labour in such disarray they might as well just amalgamate with Key’s Nationals. That would leave the Conservatives as the only real opposition to the Progs and be a much more honest representation of the actual one party state system that NZ has descended into.

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  28. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    “God only knows what Harper, Cruz et el think.”

    There’s goes a NZ version of a classic RINO.

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  29. Odakyu-sen (755 comments) says:

    A lot of social power is based on established customs (respect for this, respect for that). When you bring in a new lot of people who have different customs, you’re going to lose some of your power. People don’t like that.

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  30. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11276652

    The country’s abortion rate has dropped at a significant rate in the past few years, but the reasons behind the fall are not clear, according to women’s health experts.

    The rate of abortions performed last year was the lowest for 20 years, Statistics New Zealand said today.

    A total of 14,073 induced abortions were performed last year – 672 fewer than in 2012.
    The general abortion rate (abortions per 1000 women aged 15 – 44 years) decreased from 16.1 per 1000 in 2012 to 15.4 last year, SNZ said.

    This rate was the lowest since 1994, when it was 15.3 per 1000.

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  31. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    JFK didn’t make old bones because Nixon refused makeup at the final debate and Cunliffe is in the crap because Mrs donghu liu got a bit lippy.

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  32. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    Little mention so far of the fortunes of the backbone of National, aka the CCCP.

    Having shed 0.7% Colin’s Cranks are now 0.9% in the latest poll. Last seen neck & neck with the toilet paper heading around the “S” bend. :)

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  33. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Walter’s got it covered nasska. There is still 90 days to go. Look for a full twitter press around this.

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  34. Dom Knots (155 comments) says:

    Yeah, but that vile scumbag Clinton left his donation for all the world to see on the clothing of ms Lewinsky and still denied having sexual relations with her.

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  35. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    Do you think he can save them Davinci?

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  36. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    Key’s role model Barack Hussein Obama was pretty popular too once. Now he’s got about the worst ratings ever as the disaster of the socialism he imposed upon the US constitutional republic becomes widely recognised.

    One party states always come to an end, and Barack Hussain Key’s time will come just as it has for Obama.

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  37. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “…..The country’s abortion rate has dropped at a significant rate in the past few years, but the reasons behind the fall are not clear, according to women’s health experts…..”

    DPF posted those figures a few months back and I though exactly the same – why?

    So I asked a few knowledgable ones in Aussie about it:

    Social change – the message of the negative effects of abortion on women are starting to get through. They expect further decreases in australia and NZ.

    Apparently the governments[nz and aus fed – and some of the states] don’t want to talk about abortion on any side of government – even with regards to the harm to women – so they are quietly leaving it up to the anti-abortion movement to get the message across.

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  38. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    He’s cleverly timed a late run to burst out of the cloud and roll in with the sun behind him.

    His only problem will be whether there is sufficient band width to get his message across. It’s going to take a power of tweeting.

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  39. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    You can see that he’s commencing his run in now.

    The faux restraint; the pretence at serious political/commentator creds – he’s clearly tried to re-group after yesterday’s debacle.

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  40. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    With TDVM’s mouth always so firmly attached to his penis, its no wonder the Key picture above is above the waist landscape. Explains the stupid expression on both their faces. With his sad infatuation for progressive males, TDVM is probably down on his knees gobbling them both off.

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  41. Yvette (2,854 comments) says:

    Paulus – And of course the then Minister Barker did not receive any “donation” on behalf of the Labour Party because nobody can find it !

    And nobody can now find the six month secret loan Cunliffe had for his leadership “primary” from sources unknown, because Hansard just does not record it.
    It did not happen, folks!
    Ka-bang … another nail in Labour’s Cunloffin ! :-)

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  42. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Oops. Air Commodore Mitty appears to shot out of the cloud and collided with his cock fettish.

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  43. hj (7,067 comments) says:

    Listening to all the BS one thing that strikes me is that for most people all the party’s are offering is stumble on. There is no new engine going in the vehicle.
    National is the exception (perhaps) with an immigration sugar rush but that only benefits one part at the expense of the other part.

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  44. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    One thing, Key will be able to tell his good buddy Obama and his Hollywood backers he’s got the Kim Dotcom thing under control. Smirk….

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  45. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    Red would you like to link to Obumas worst ever approval rating for a usa president ?
    Or are you doing a kea and just going to www:factspulledoutmyarse.com
    I checked and it seems at the end of his terms bush was at around 25% significantly lower than barry is at present
    Bush
    Barry

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  46. Colville (2,300 comments) says:

    Have I missed Penny Dim’s post on here spouting about the private prosecution of the Labour Party being brought by Graham McCreedy?

    Anyone point me to it? LOL

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  47. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Reddy making things up? Surely not…

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  48. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    Milky, I’m not responsible for the boring low IQ idiot Grief’s inability to read or his predilection for strawmen. He’s just squealing for attention as usual.

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  49. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    So you think Griff’s wrong about those approval ratings?

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  50. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    Its interesting to see left and so called right binding to protect JK. Just shows what a hopeless one party socialist state NZ has become. Amazing really, all done without a shot being fired. But I guess that’s cultural Marxism for you. Far more effective strategy than mass murder and terror but still bringing the same result.

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  51. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    You edited your original definitive statement from its original form while I was tiding my post by using html to embed the links Red

    . Now he’s got about the worst ratings ever as the disaster of the socialism he imposed upon the US constitutional republic becomes widely recognised.

    Is still a fantasy Bush rated far lower for his warmongering and massive waste of lives and resources for a failed war on terror and his regimes complacency in the global financial melt down.

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  52. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “…..I checked and it seems at the end of his terms bush was at around 25% significantly lower than barry is at present….”

    Barry will be much lower in two yrs Griff —— and GWB vindicated also! :cool:

    “…….Vice President Dick Cheney also warned of the rise of a caliphate if the U.S. withdrew before Iraq was capable of governing and defending itself. “They talk about wanting to re-establish what you could refer to as the seventh-century caliphate” to be “governed by Sharia law, the most rigid interpretation of the Koran,” he said.

    “It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” — GW Bush…..”

    Oils going through the fucken roof thanks to Barry — it’s already $1.70 for super here in QLD — what’s it in NZ ?

    Key won’t want to be seen with the Chicongo Thug at the G20 – just like everyone else there! :cool:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/06/george_w_bush_and_neocons_vindicated.html

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  53. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    You edited your original definitive statement from its original form while I was tiding my post by using html to embed the links Red

    Ha ha, what a damn low IQ lying fool you are.

    Your post was 15 mins after mine. Even if any editing was done there was plenty of time to adjust your pathetic BS.

    For once, could you just stop squealing like some attention seeking child in a supermarket???

    FFS… idiot socialists, they’re everywhere.

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  54. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    American thinker :lol:

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  55. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    “…..But I guess that’s cultural Marxism for you………Far more effective strategy than mass murder….”

    Yeah…..yet sexual marxism takes care of the murder bit – they fuck anything – then abort, or die from aids ect. Useful idiots.

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  56. cricko (382 comments) says:

    When the answer is that a quarter (24%) of New Zealands population are disabled then there
    is something wrong with the question.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11275916

    And again the rule that says, when you read, “A new survey has revealed that………..”
    what follows will be unadulterated bullshit has been proved.

    This bullshit ranks up there with the last survey from some drone at Waikato whose survey revealed
    that a third of NZ school children have mental health problems. (some people lap this up and wail. “The government must do something.”)

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  57. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Griff
    I don’t know why some of the usual suspects link to such sites. Good for the lulz though.

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  58. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    ODT editorial calls on Cunliffe to resign.

    Before you get too gleeful,no one comes out looking too flash.

    http://www.odt.co.nz/opinion/editorial/306359/losing-patience-politicians

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  59. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    Hey Harry, see how these dumbarsed progs sneeringly dismiss any information source that undermines the blanket LW memes of the MSM?

    Too stupid to know that these internet publications are taking over as the main information source for most people, given that the MSM is just an updated version of the old Soviet propaganda source Pravda.

    Let the snot nosed idiots isolate themselves. The less they know about what is really going on the better.

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  60. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    Mystery bangs and shaking in Auckland

    A series of mysterious “explosions” have been reported across west and north Auckland, but police are mystified.

    Reports of loud ‘‘bangs’’ followed by houses shaking began about 5pm, in the Hibiscus Coast area.

    Inspector Tony Edwards of police northern communications said police received reports of the bangs from the Herald Island – Greenhithe area about the same time.

    More reports came in a while later from the Ranui – Scenic Drive area in West Auckland.

    A Fire Service worker came in to work later and confirmed they had heard the noises in the Red Beach area, which is on the Hibiscus Coast.

    Edwards said people had variously described the noises as sounding like gun-shots and loud explosions.

    Police had checked with the Air Force, which has a base in Whenuapai, but turned out not to be not responsible, and neither was Paremoremo prison.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10174693/Mystery-bangs-and-shaking-in-Auckland

    Has to be fracking. Probably unnannounced and illegal. The govt will trivialise it saying it’s a blip in the geosphere.

    A Kiwi writer has just come out saying NZ poverty is worse than India.

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  61. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    Latest statistic bandied around the media.

    Two farmers a week commit suicide.

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  62. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    “Before you get too gleeful,no one comes out looking too flash.”

    Good editorial Kowtow, thanks for linking.

    Cunliffe, Banks, Williamson. all in the same corruption ridden boat being captained by Communist Chinese gangsters.

    And this is the govt NZers are happy with.

    FFS…

    The editorial is right. NZ politics is just a disgusting pond of sleaze, and its reached this low point because its practically just a one party socialist state.

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  63. stigie (1,348 comments) says:

    This in the Herald this morning….

    “An increase in alternate party activity on the Left side may have traditional Labour voters weighing up their options and thinking again about Labour.”

    ” On the other side, as the party options for conservative voters reduce, we are seeing them flock to National.”

    This cant be right surely. Not possible !~

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  64. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    “One party states always come to an end, and Barack Hussain Key’s time will come just as it has for Obama.”

    Not until the TPP is signed….then wallah…..Key announces retirement ….seen how strong B English is in parliament lately ?

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  65. Lance (2,721 comments) says:

    Wiki wrote
    “A Kiwi writer has just come out saying NZ poverty is worse than India”

    And you believe such shit?… seriously have you been in a third world country?
    Yes the impoverished of India are thanking their lucky stars they don’t live in NZ

    I guess unless a writer pens absolute outrageous BS no one takes any notice of them.

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  66. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    Carrying card benefits Auckland users

    Auckland Transport’s push towards cashless commuting has met a generally positive response.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10171779/Carrying-card-benefits-Auckland-users

    Moving rapidly and rabidly towards teh cashless society.

    Can you imagine the exorbitant bank charges once cash has gone.

    Plus HOP cards and every service will have huge penalties added to them. We’ll all be prisoners

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  67. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    “And you believe such shit?… ”

    He s not the only writer on NZ poverty. The books are coming out faster than kids in Sth Akld get fed.

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  68. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    “A Kiwi writer has just come out saying NZ poverty is worse than India”
    Not actually what the author said.

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  69. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    As US manufacturing declines, wealth gap increases

    The downfall of manufacturing in the US has done more than displace workers and leave communities searching for ways to rebuild devastated economies.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/10162542/As-US-manufacturing-declines-wealth-gap-increases

    The US has an official and admitted manufacturing crisis.

    We must be well ahead!

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  70. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    Federal Reserve slashes US growth forecast

    The Federal Reserve has sharply cut its forecast for US growth this year, reflecting a shrinking economy last quarter caused mostly by harsh weather.

    At the same time, the Fed has barely increased its estimate of inflation despite signs that consumer price increases are picking up. Its benign inflation outlook suggests that the Fed doesn’t feel rising pressure to raise short-term interest rates.

    The Fed updated its economic forecasts after a two-day policy meeting.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/world/10176044/Fed-Reserve-slashes-US-growth-forecast

    This along with the US manufacturing crisis.

    Serial deniers of our own manufacturing crisis need serious pysch treatment and remedial classes in mental health.

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  71. Harriet (5,145 comments) says:

    Here’s a laugh – care of iprent at TS. :cool:

    ————————————-
    Harriet 2.1

    19 June 2014 at 8:05 am

    “……one positive thing anyone can do is join the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions “Get out and vote” campaign. If you get just one more person to enrol and vote you will have played a positive role…..”

    yep. It’s a big role alright……..bigger than the role the Unions themselves have been playing inside Labour. They should’ve taken charge earlier…….about the time Helen left actually – as everything else in Labour was to small to fill that void – as we’ve all seen.

    —————————————-

    lprent2.3

    19 June 2014 at 8:56 am

    Yesterday I was dumping the first timers who couldn’t manage to write a coherent comment, and passing others through on probation who could write a coherent comment. In the latter case, two deteriorated to munters and got changed to spam.

    But on the whole we seem to have managed to get reasonably literate righties. After nearly 7 years running this site, it looks like we have finally managed some genetic changes through natural selection.

    —————————————–

    Harriet2.3.1

    19 June 2014 at 10:52 am

    Yeah I know what you mean – some fool over at the right wing Kiwi Blog called me a ‘defective loser with a small dick’ – just last week actually.

    Coathanger from the gene pool that fellow. :cool:

    —————————————–

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  72. wreck1080 (3,972 comments) says:

    Incidentally, the kiwi dollar hit the highest ever level on the TWI since the dollar floated in 1987.

    Spectacular especially given the foreign printing presses are winding down.

    Can’t wait for next months interest rate rise.

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  73. Ed Snack (1,927 comments) says:

    Do you really think the presses are winding down wreck ? I think that the crony capitalist oligarchy is addicted to it and any wind down will be very slow.

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  74. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    Harriet pontificates more absurd and hysterical nonsense possibly suggesting Pope Francis like his predecessor Urban II preaches another Western Crusade against the ISIS Caliphate .?
    Petrol here is $2.05 down at the local station and the price elsewhere seems to be stable. And you get hysterical about petrol in Queensland at $1.70. ? Do some walking and exercise couch sloth.!
    The US is no longer dependent on ME oil and we ourselves import little oil from Iraq.
    As matter of interest Al Qaeda has denounced ISIS as the bitter factionalism continues amongst the Jihadist .,

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/al-qaeda-disavows-any-ties-with-radical-islamist-isis-group-in-syria-iraq/2014/02/03/2c9afc3a-8cef-11e3

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  75. starboard (2,552 comments) says:

    Big tough bro ..can murder an 8 month old eh, fuckin loser you’ll get yours cuz..the silence from turia, sharples , harawira , jackson is deafening. .you’re all as guilty as your bro.

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  76. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    “As matter of interest Al Qaeda has denounced ISIS”

    Al Qaeda, now there’s a reputable and trustworthy organisation.

    Wonder if anyone there would be interested in a job vacancy about to open up in NZ Labour?

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  77. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Good news:
    http://io9.com/teaching-creationism-as-science-now-banned-in-all-uk-pu-1592549647
    Next stop, Texas.

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  78. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    Father Of California Massacre Victim: ‘When Will This Insanity Stop?’

    “Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven irresponsible politicians and the NRA (National Rifle Association). They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop?” Richard Martinez told reporters, a day after the shootings near the University of California.”

    Chris was about toi embark on a study scholarship to London. The father plans to got Washington D. C to continue to fight for tighter gun controls. Am afraid he will likely not get far given the power of that other government in the US , the NRA.

    Its incredible that these shooting sprees and massacres are blamed on the Obama administration as a conspiracy to get tighter gun control by many insane conspiracy theorists .

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/father-of-california-massacre-victim-when-will-this-insanity-stop-2014-5

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  79. lilman (968 comments) says:

    Where is JUDITH?

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  80. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    But the big issue in the States, stephie, is should priests pack heat?
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/arizona-break-highlights-gun-possessing-clergy

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  81. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    “France” gets the blame for a brutal vigilante assault,of course it’s whiteys’ fault.

    This was done either by other Roma or by members of an “immigrant” community fed up with Roma criminality.Got nothing to do with the Frogs……other than their stupid toleration of mass immigration.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10908942/Roma-boy-attacked-in-Paris-the-picture-that-will-shock-France.html

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  82. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    How do you know who did it, kowtow? The gang were wearing balaclavas.

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  83. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    starboard

    You left Bradford off that list of shame. her Bill was sold on the basis that this would be stopped , not to mention the rest of parliament who let that piece of cultural marxist crap pass into law.A law designed to criminalise good parents.

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  84. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Bzzzt! ‘cultural marxist’

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  85. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    Judith & Penny are missing in action. Are they related or better still .. Are they the same person. Judith has form for this.

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  86. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    Ex-Counterterrorism Czar Richard Clarke: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld Committed War Crimes

    Richard Clarke, the nation’s former top counterterrorism official, tells Democracy Now! he believes President George W. Bush is guilty of war crimes for launching the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Clarke served as national coordinator for security and counterterrorism during Bush’s first year in office. He resigned in 2003 following the Iraq invasion and later made headlines by accusing Bush officials of ignoring pre-9/11 warnings about an imminent attack by al-Qaeda. “I think things that they authorized probably fall within the area of war crimes,” Clarke says. “Whether that would be productive or not, I think, is a discussion we could all have. But we have established procedures now with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where people who take actions as serving presidents or prime ministers of countries have been indicted and have been tried. So the precedent is there to do that sort of thing. And I think we need to ask ourselves whether or not it would be useful to do that in the case of members of the Bush administration. It’s clear that things that the Bush administration did — in my mind, at least — were war crimes.”

    http://www.democracynow.org/2014/6/2/ex_counterterrorism_czar_richard_clarke_bush

    The truth gets it’s laces tied sooner or later.

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  87. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    milkenmild, thanks for the more guns in the US insanity,

    Meanwhile a Bill Maher’s visit to the Kentucky Creation Museum,

    Hilarious .!

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  88. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    “But the big issue in the States, stephie, is should priests pack heat?”

    To make it easier to commit child rape?

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  89. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    If Bush and co are war criminals then so is Clinton for blowing the shit out of Serbia.

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  90. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    milky, perhaps they were using Rocco’s balaclavas

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  91. Sofia (869 comments) says:

    Thank you for your email. I can confirm that the relocation of Labour’s parliamentary staff into a large open plan office aligns with the functions that these parliamentary staff members perform in support the Labour Leaders Office. I am assured it is not related to election activities which you rightly point out should be kept separate.
Thank you for writing to me on this matter.

    Yours sincerely
    
Rt Hon David Carter
    
Speaker of the House of Representatives

    “I am assured it is not related …” this surely means this room is not used in any way connected with the Election.
    So why is this Caucus Room regularly referred to as the War Room by bloggers [Whaleoil in particular] commenters, politicians and the main stream media?
    Has someone in Labour lied to the Speaker, or did he go and assess the room’s activities himself?

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  92. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Sofia

    You need to bear in mind that despite being speaker, Carter is, after all, a National MP. On that basis his first duty is to ensure that the liebour war room remains intact. With that in mind, please don’t press this issue any further.

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  93. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    kowtow and wiki,
    Neither Dick Cheney , Rumfsield , GWB or Bill Clinton could be remotely described as war criminals in the same sense as the Nuremberg Trials. Its a loaded and emotive term loosely bandied about by Conspiracy Theorists and the far left without respect to the historical facts.
    There is no evidence that Cheney etc deliberately and willfully set out to massacre iraqi civilians even if one ( like me) disagrees with the invasion.
    Democracy Now is often so full of polemic, rhetoric and hot air.!

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  94. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    New Zealand’s tax policies don’t attempt to reign in wealth inequality even though it is well known that significant wealth inequality can destablise economies. That wealth inequality flies in the face of egalitarian values is another potential point against it.

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  95. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Interesting that you raise Nuremberg, stephie. Weren’t the Nazi leaders convicted of the planning and waging of wars of aggression.

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  96. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    Another cultural marxist attack on private property rights.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/u-s–patent-and-trademark-office-cancels-washington-redskins–trademarks-144712305.html

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  97. Hodor (38 comments) says:

    Maybe the mystery banging in Auckland is the sound of Cunliffe battering his head against a wall at his own stupidity?

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  98. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Bzzzzt! ‘cultural marxist’

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  99. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    The mayor is known to be a bit of a banger around town……..

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  100. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    mikenmild , yes but in addition genocide of racial groups like Jews and Gipsies as well as the massacre of civilian populations as at the Eastern Front, Czechoslovakia Lidice and e.g France at Lyons and especially here ,

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/03/oradour-sur-glane-nazi-massacre-village

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  101. Elaycee (4,410 comments) says:

    wikiwhiz (10.19am): Has to be fracking. Probably unnannounced and illegal. The govt will trivialise it saying it’s a blip in the geosphere.

    He shoots….. but misses again!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11276806

    Just another day ending in ‘Y’….

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  102. goldnkiwi (1,552 comments) says:

    Thought Judith Collins was very restrained on Breakfast this morning, she definitely had a ‘twinkle’. ;)

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  103. stephieboy (3,414 comments) says:

    Elaycee, thanks for that . Wiki, UT, Reid etc will be most disappointed likely pinning their hopes on HAARP, chem trails and other kindred conspiracy related junk.

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  104. Dom Knots (155 comments) says:

    Dear god. 70 years later and the generations of good German people since ww2 are still being persecuted for the crimes committed by people they didn’t even know. Let’s talk about what’s happening today. Right now. Let’s talk about what israel is doing in Palestine and has been for 70 years in succession – the rapes, the torture, the ethnic cleansing, the murder – year after year after year. ‘YOU’RE A NAUGHTY BOY, FAWLTY’

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  105. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    ….the rapes,the torture,the ethnic cleansing,the murder……

    Yep ,that’s Arabs for ya.

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  106. Dom Knots (155 comments) says:

    Yeah. I had you pegged as the allan dershowitz of this place from go 1, you wank stain.

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  107. kowtow (8,784 comments) says:

    “wank stain”.

    Goodness, numb nuts, you’re a particularly obnoxious poster.

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  108. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    you’re a particularly obnoxious poster

    That’s right folks; your eyes weren’t deceiving you.

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  109. publicwatchdog (2,855 comments) says:

    Hi Kiwibloggers :) I’m currently in Brisbane having just finished attending the G20 Anti-Corruption Conference along with fellow anti-corruption ‘whistle-blower’ Grace Haden. A number of attendees seemed unaware that despite NZs ‘perceived’ status as ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ – NZ STILL has yet to ratify the UN Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC) & Minister of Justice Judith Collins ‘Organised Crime & Anti-Corruption Legislation Bill’ (the passage of which is required before NZ can ratify UNCAC) has STILL yet to surface in the House. Still smiling Judith? (Meant of course in a caring way :) LOTS more to come …. Kind regards Penny Bright

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  110. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Penny, I’ve nearly cleaned out the shed. Do you want those old possum skins or shall I leave them for the successful bidder?

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  111. All_on_Red (1,650 comments) says:

    Gosh Penny, that’s terrible. NZ not ratifying a UN convention. The horror of it all.
    I see your appearance where you whip them all into shape has made You Tube. Well done. You’re looking good.
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6TP50f3BAs0

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  112. Sofia (869 comments) says:

    Penny, give one good reason why New Zealand, being one of the two least corrupt countries in the world, should sign the UN Convention, considering Afghanistan rates as most corrupt country, equal with North Korea and Somalia –
    But Afghanistan has both signed and ratified the United Nations Convention against Corruption.
    Signing means nothing. In fact it may be considered morally corrupt, meant in the nicest way possible :-)

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  113. Redbaiter (9,662 comments) says:

    The most irritating thing about our self appointed Prog cultural guardian and his lame comments is that they reek of the author’s assumption that he is oh so witty and smart, when he isn’t anything but an unfunny devoid of wit stinking lowlife coward.

    Penny might be wrong about a lot of things but she’s got fifty times the guts TDVM will ever have.

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  114. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    I am beginning to think redblather and Penny Tarnish are an item.
    Go hard old man.

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  115. Komata (1,204 comments) says:

    Ah PENELOPE

    Thank you for finally appearing.

    In case you haven’t noticed, there is a nice little Corruption matter for you to get your teeth into when you arrive back.

    It involves your friends in the New Zealand Labour Party, and being the completely impartial ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGNER that you are, we here at Kiwiblog ALL expect that you will give this matter your fullest and most complete attention and take the matter to the High Court, since after all, you did exactly that in respect of Mr. Banks.

    And, of course, even if he becomes Prime Minister, we also expect that you will relentlessly pursue Mr. David Cunnliffe to the same end, and beyond.

    You have set the bar high m’dear, so naturally you will be expected to reach at least that same height, and, indeed, because of the high profile status of Mr. Cunnliffe, to exceed it by a truly amazing amount.

    As you have continuously regaled with tales of your accomplishments as an ‘Anti Corruption Campaigner”, your ‘fans’ will expect no less.

    But should you choose not to do so…..

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  116. Gulag1917 (1,027 comments) says:

    “Democracy” is today a supremely fashionable word in our country, mouthed in endless variations, flaunted, brandished, and exploited for personal advantage. But there is no tangible evidence that we have given close thought to the exact meaning of this term.
    Alexander Solzhenitsyn in “Rebuilding Russia: Manifesto for a rebirth of Russia”, 1996

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  117. cricko (382 comments) says:

    Is New Zealand unique in that any university post grad student or professer can come
    up with a conclusion to a survey that they have conducted (as a result of a grant that they have recieved )

    That the media report it as fact. A new survey has revealed that….

    These professers will keep comming up with this sort of shit untill they are roundly ridiculed by all.

    Of miriads of examples try this one.

    Some fuck wit academic has declared that our poorest children are worse off than poor Indians in shitholes in
    India.

    This is reported with no member of our 4th estate questioning it.
    In fact that puke now is the subject of two questions in parliiament today as though it was a
    fact.

    What has happened to journalism in our country ?

    Lets ridicule and laugh at these drongs.

    You gotta ask, why do our “reporters’ always ask for a comment on a piece of puke instead of questioning the piece of puke ?

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  118. publicwatchdog (2,855 comments) says:

    Here’s the go Kiwibloggers :) If YOU believe that a bribery or corruption offence has been committed by ANY person – this is what YOU can do: Make a formal written complaint to the Police or SFO YOURSELF and see how you get on ….. Kind regards Penny Bright

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  119. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    The corrupt Miss Dim, close associate of the Labour Party, makes a fleeting appearance.
    Or does she work for Internet Mana these days?

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  120. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    ‘Some fuck wit academic has declared that our poorest children are worse off than poor Indians in shitholes in
    India.’
    That’s great cricko, but it’s not actually what he said.

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  121. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    Just the right article for Stephie: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-neocon-surge-108021.html?ml=m_pm#.U6JyIW14Wvg

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  122. Keeping Stock (10,443 comments) says:

    Has Kim Dotcom funded Penny’s trip on the Brisbane “anti-corruption” junket? Or did she get sponsorship from Donghua Liu?

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  123. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    mikenmild

    ….” but it’s not actually what he said.”…..

    What the overeducated wanker said was….”The poorest Kiwi children are now no better off than some children in the slums of India”…. So if you wish to dance on the head of a pin you’re arguing “no worse off” vs “are worse off”.

    Cricko’s comment is fair. The socialist professor was trying for pathos in order to get his pitiful book read knowing full well that the left cuddling MSM would provide him with publicity.

    There is NO child poverty in NZ that cannot be sheeted home to useless breeders who are flatteringly described as parents. The blame lies with them & no one else.

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  124. Komata (1,204 comments) says:

    PENELOPE

    RE:’I f YOU believe that a bribery or corruption offence has been committed by ANY person – this is what YOU can do: Make a formal written complaint to the Police or SFO YOURSELF and see how you get on’

    No, no Penelope, , you don’t understand. It’s YOU who have to make to ‘formal written complaint’.

    You have your REPUTATION as an ‘ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGNER’ that YOU have to uphold. You’ve hectored us for several years about your beliefs and actions, and have taken J. Banks to court with much glee.

    It’s YOU who have to follow through with this matter, NOT the Kiwiblog habitues.

    The case is there, the CORRUPTION is there (and growing BTW). it’s time for you to bring all your much vaunted and touted ANTI CORRUPTION EXPERTISE into the public gaze, and prove that you are actually what you say you are;

    A ‘Valiant destroyer of Corruption’ boldly going where no-one else has so far dared to go.

    Effectively, for you, Ms Bright, it’s now a case of ‘Put up or. . .’

    Over to you….

    Kiwiblog will be watching your actions with interest.

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  125. RRM (10,034 comments) says:

    There’s social welfare in New Zealand.

    It would take a special effort to put your kids in as bad a way as indian slum kids. It’s not something that could just happen to you.

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  126. cricko (382 comments) says:

    Just listened to Rachel Smalley giving her opinion of political events today on ZB

    Does she have any opinion that doesn’t begin with, “Yuh know……..”

    Small point but. Every fricken sentence,’ Yuh know, or, Well Larry, yuh know….”

    Almost as good as Corrin Dan starting every sentence with, “Look……” or “Listen…..”

    Course every TV1 correspondent begins at least one sentence in every report with, “Look…..”

    Watch for it tonight if you are a disbeliever.

    It must be a cantagious disease.

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  127. Longknives (4,889 comments) says:

    “There is NO child poverty in NZ that cannot be sheeted home to useless breeders who are flatteringly described as parents. The blame lies with them & no one else.”

    Comment of the Day Nasska..
    Mum spending all her generous DPB cheque on on Pokies and Weed and not bothering to feed her eight feral meal-ticket children is NOT fucking ‘Poverty’!!!

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  128. cricko (382 comments) says:

    Hey mikenmild ,
    explain to the masses how what he said differred from what I said he said.

    Don’t expect to hear from you soon mikenmild.

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  129. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    RRM

    I read your comment on the “economic growth” thread about mortgage payments on one income….been there, done that. Briefly I had two mortgages (the 2nd at 23% int) three kids & two jobs to pay the bills. The good news is that it does get better.

    Maybe because of this, authors wanking on about comparative poverty make me nauseous. Living on a low income or a benefit would not be great but it’s not all tea & skittles for the workers either. The bleeding hearts want your kids’ welfare reduced by taking money off you to give to the feckless.

    If the bludgers want another cent of my money then let them receive all welfare largess via targeted cards instead of cash….if there’s still a problem then I’ll listen.

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  130. UglyTruth (4,552 comments) says:

    Elaycee, thanks for that . Wiki, UT, Reid etc will be most disappointed likely pinning their hopes on HAARP, chem trails and other kindred conspiracy related junk.

    Tell us some more lies about how there is no evidence of molten steel at “ground zero”, idiot boy.

    http://www.bollyn.com/the-seismic-evidence-molten-iron-in-the-rubble

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  131. thedavincimode (6,880 comments) says:

    Good heavens. Who couldn’t possibly like Boondock Saints? Maybe a cat lover?

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  132. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    Hey cricko
    I guess you are too lazy, or too stupid, to refer to the thread in question. I can’t be bothered helping you with that, but IIRC that statement was that some children in New Zealand live in worse poverty than some children in India.

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  133. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    Poverty in Wainui is bad. We tend to get the poor children to excel at rugby so they can be bought by either Petone or HOBM and hence drag themselves up to milkey’s level! :)

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  134. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    Only because their parents are Maori who are oppressed by what someone done to their great great great great great great great great grandfather just after he killed and eat the neighbors kids mike.

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  135. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    You wouldn’t know what poverty was JB.

    When I was a young bloke we were so poor we used to eat porridge with a fork to save milk. :)

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  136. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    “wikiwhiz (10.19am): Has to be fracking. Probably unnannounced and illegal. The govt will trivialise it saying it’s a blip in the geosphere.

    He shoots….. but misses again! ”

    hahaha….. I concede. An army exercise which should have been publicised to warn the public.

    Simple manners

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  137. publicwatchdog (2,855 comments) says:

    I’m paying for the trip myself – no registration fee has made it a lot more affordable. Actually BOYolo – I am not employed by anyone – thought you were a bit more up with the play. Silly me :) But keep biting! (Gumming …. :) it makes my day – you silly wee thing – meant of course in a caring way. Penny Bright

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  138. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    Because we couldn’t afford milk nasska our dad used to make us wank into water so it looked like milk! :)

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  139. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    Have you opted for the one-way, self funded, trip extension to Ulan Bator Penny?

    Please say yes! :)

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  140. stigie (1,348 comments) says:

    And you invited Penny down to stay with you JB !!

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  141. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    Waste not…..want not JB. :)

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  142. wikiriwhis business (4,135 comments) says:

    “As matter of interest Al Qaeda has denounced ISIS as the bitter factionalism continues amongst the Jihadist ”

    The CIA denounces the CIA

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  143. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    I’m working on Judith and Lucia on the other thread stigie!

    Penny’s just a backup situation! :)

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  144. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    Some of our more spiritual fellow commenters may find this instructional: :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rie9x06mpgdtbqw/Repro.jpg

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  145. ShawnLH (5,761 comments) says:

    “There is NO child poverty in NZ that cannot be sheeted home to useless breeders who are flatteringly described as parents.”

    Well, yes and no. There are some people who are poor through no fault of their own, just bad circumstances.

    That said, there is a sub-culture here in NZ that assumes that the world owes them everything and they should get everything without any effort.

    And I agree that comparing child poverty in NZ with India is just plain stupid.

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  146. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    johnboy, you’re such a blog whore;)

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  147. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    “Interesting. My comment at The Daily Blog responding to a section of one of Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury’s post got moderated out.”

    One guess who made this comment?

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  148. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    I witnessed an amusing exchange today… a rather large teen in school uniform was making fun of one of the local trolley men with obvious learning disabilities…

    “hey retard, is this the only job you can get?”

    just as I was about to let loose, the trolley guy replied… “why does you dad wanna job?”

    damn near pissed myself laughing

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  149. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    What’s a blog whore NW?

    Do they get their ends in more than other commenters, who pays? :)

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  150. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    BB: I just had a look over there…curious as to how they are spinning Cunliffe’s latest troubles…they are eating each other!! I am not too up on the leftie factions, but that Clown “bomber” is usually one of them isn’t he? lprent is giving him a right roasting…Usual story, they are all censoring each others comments…priceless…

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  151. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    JB, I’m trying not to visualize your ends!

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  152. cricko (382 comments) says:

    mikenmild
    quite silly.
    You boofhead.
    Yep! I called you out as a boofhead.
    Because you are an effing boofhead.

    “Some children….live in worse poverty than in India..”

    What a stupid analogy, a desperate attempt, the kind a boofhead would give creedence to.

    You are just a fool.
    And guess what ?

    Now you proved it for all to see.

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  153. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    Quite right Northern Wahine…..JB’s ends are under embargo. :)

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  154. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    DG

    It is bloody hilarious, long may the left beat the shit out of each other.

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  155. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    Penny, Lucia and Judith can release my ends from the embargo whenever they feel I am up to it! :)

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  156. Pete George (23,688 comments) says:

    Bradbury and Prentice ripping in to each other for controlling the messages on their blogs is kinda hilarious.

    But this is better:

    Victory!

    I’ve been thinking about the crisis enveloping David Cunliffe and the Labour Party. It seems increasingly clear that the whole thing was a National party setup.

    But if the Nats think this is some sort of victory for them, they should think again. The whole thing is backfiring badly, and they will end up regretting their smear. Already the nation is turning on National, as people wake up and realise who is behind this scandal. I’ve seen at least three people on my Twitter feed questioning National’s tactics.

    I’m not at all worried about the polls out this week, one of which showed support for Labour as low as 23%. 23% is a pretty good base to build from, and if Labour can hold that number on September 20 and then do deals with the Greens, Mana-Internet, NZ First, the Maori Party, Peter Dunne, and ACT, they should be able to form a government, if several National MPs also defect to Labour.

    But the polls will go up, as people finally wake up and realise how rotten and corrupt this pack of Tories are. National will rue the day they ever attacked the credibility of David Cunliffe. I’m sure they will. Any moment now the public of this country will cry “enough!” and sweep Labour into power.

    There is no disaster for Labour here. Only opportunity. This will be a strategic victory for Labour and for David Cunliffe, mark my words.

    It makes you wonder, though. It’s so obvious that this will now backfire that it almost makes you wonder if David Cunliffe planned it to turn out this way.

    Supposing Cunliffe engineered the entire thing, knowing his opponents would not be able to help themselves? Knowing that when it all blew up in their faces, he would be triumphant.

    If that’s what happened, then David Cunliffe is a genius. A legend.

    This is a disaster for National (update: now four people on my Twitter feed have questioned National’s tactics). Any moment now the polls will rebound. Any moment now the public will rise up in disgust at National’s dirty tactics.

    Any moment now…

    http://imperatorfish.com/2014/06/19/victory/

    At least Scott has a sense of humour and knows it’s satire.

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  157. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    as long as JBs ends don’t fertilize any embryos it’s all good!

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  158. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    What sort of embryos Northern Wahine! :)

    Ref: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yfpxiuayechcf5p/sheep%2018%20%282%29.jpg

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  159. mikenmild (11,798 comments) says:

    cricko
    I’m very sorry that you are a fuckwit, and there’s no cure for that. You will have to live with it. Luckily you are not even aware of the disability.

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  160. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    nasska… I just had to push the link, huh? “wishes for amnesia”

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  161. nasska (11,827 comments) says:

    That which cannot be unseen Northern Wahine? :)

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  162. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    All of my offspring would be greatly in demand for the length and fineness of their wool, quality of their meat and their musical and intellectual abilities if I chose to put them on the market.

    I don’t because I feel family values are far more important! :)

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  163. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    JB, they must take after their mums, huh? ;)

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  164. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Watch and enjoy as big Gerry takes the absolute piss out of one of the stinking and humourless Greens.

    http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/33569

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  165. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    In every way NW… except for the quality of their meat! :)

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  166. cricko (382 comments) says:

    mikenmild
    you would be best advised to hold your tongue,
    specially if your effort @ 8,14 is the best that you have.

    Anyone reading who was uanaware of what an effing boofhead was
    will be disabused after reading your @ 8.14

    To spell it out…..
    You are it.

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  167. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    is beryl back?

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  168. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    I watched that today bb. While Julie is the best looking MP in parliament (and I would dub her on my bike anytime) she’s a complete and utter fuckwit.

    Thank goodness stupid Cunners has just fucked any chances of the Greenies coatailing into parliament by making Labour un-electable! :)

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  169. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    She might be kinda hot but you would have to tell her to STFU, that voice would drive me crazy. What is it with Yanks coming over here and telling us what to do?, its not as if they have not fucked up their own country enough.

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  170. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    JB: I just watched that clip too…Eff me….I thought Delahunty was bad….we pay this woman 150k a year for that drivel…in an annoying American accent…

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  171. cricko (382 comments) says:

    Johnboy, the way she waves her arms around has to count.
    Nice outfit she wared today for question time.
    I guess compared to a sheep Julie Ann looks good. Makes more sense.

    Yep, Northland Wahine, beryl rides again.

    You and nostalgia picked it.

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  172. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    bb. I remember waiting at Wellington Airport many years ago for a passenger (in the days when you could walk along the long corridor out to the gates) and and old Yankee chap in a white jacket and red trousers popped out of the plane with a huge camera hanging round his neck. Next out was his fugely wife who commenced with…”Hiram..Hiram..I told you to wait for me…..etc…etc.”

    I never have worked out why Hiram never shot the bitch long before he ever ended up here with her! :)

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  173. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    DG

    What is it with the Greens when it comes to a lack of humour?

    Oh, by the way. Check out Twitter, the fucking moonbat Deahunty (the one who wants a roll in education should they form part of the next government) has tweeted about education and totally fucked up the name of the school she had been attending.

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  174. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    All you Guy’s must admit Julie has a well toned body (All that bike riding I guess) compared to all the other bird’s in parliament (apart from Nikki Kaye of course! :) )

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  175. big bruv (14,165 comments) says:

    Ah cricko!, the nations number one rugby sycophant.

    How do you feel about your teams captain being owned two weeks in a row by a pom?

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  176. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    And Julie doesn’t crank out all that Kia Ora Murri shit when the Speaker gives them the nod like all the other greenies do!

    Bugger me even the Ronald MacDonald clown did it today! :)

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  177. cricko (382 comments) says:

    Hey big bruv,

    Why do you hate your national team ?

    Why do you hate yourself ?

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  178. dad4justice (8,313 comments) says:

    cricko, big bigot hates everything with vengeance. It’s very unwell. Just feel sorry for it.

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  179. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    BB; I don’t “do” social media mate…commenting on here is the nearest I come…

    BTW keep your eyes out for the next “Investigate” mag…I think you will enjoy my views on Muslim immigration to our fair land…

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  180. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    due when David? and good evening from the Deep dark South

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  181. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    I always enjoyed Disneys “Sinbad the Sailor” :)

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  182. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    Wahine: next month…late next month…I’d like to think I have argued a somewhat better case than my predecessor Mr Prosser of NZ First…

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  183. Johnboy (17,092 comments) says:

    Hopefully you have cast a Sunni viewpoint on Shite stuff or a Shitey viewpoint on what may have once been Sunni David! :)

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  184. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    I am sure you have, David. Oh the wisdom of hindsight of choosing ones words carefully.

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  185. David Garrett (7,565 comments) says:

    NW: yes…I suspect Mr Prosser may have written that piece close to deadline when tired and emotional…never a good idea…It was the refs to “Wogistan” which did him in I think…

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  186. Northland Wahine (667 comments) says:

    yep! I wonder after the Muslim debacle in Avondale, if the words…told ya so….crossed his mind.

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  187. adc (595 comments) says:

    The “Humans of Remuera” facebook page – is that political campaigning or what?

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Humans-of-Remuera/1517925395102391

    Seems a bit sinister / cutting to be real satire. Time to report it as hate speech.

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  188. Manolo (14,086 comments) says:

    An alleged rapist speaks: http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8862689/assange-reveals-extradition-fears

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  189. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    I see the Dyke Iprent from the the Labour rag is threatening 3 month bans for anyone not spreading their cheeks for labour. This guy is a sick unit who lives in his own world. Never met the idiot but going by his rants he must be a fat little stumpy shit with a small dick. Brave man behind his key board but a wimp if confronted.

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  190. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    While I am in full flight I see the scum sucking greens are upset that the West Coast will survive to live another day. The Govt is going to allow the fallen trees to be milled. This will equate to many jobs in the depressed region and a much needed income for the residents. The greens would rather see the trees rot along with the good west coasters than see the area progress. These are the same bastards that use to hammer nails into trees about to be milled.

    I am surprised that Egor the west coast Gween member manages to get a few votes but I forget he is a list MP so no value. Get a real job son.

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  191. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    I understand that Cunners has spread the word to what is left of his supporters. Go forth and infiltrate the right wing blogs to try and disrupt them. That’s why I smell trolls.

    The Japs tried it in WW2 but they were still shot down. The Devine Wind will be a failure.

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  192. Maggy Wassilieff (452 comments) says:

    @ RF.. It would seem that those fallen West Coast rimu, totara and beech trees were not aware of the DG of DOC’s opinion piece in the Dominion last June that they were superior in their adaptation to storms than non-natives.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/8857529/Native-trees-a-capital-investment

    How the head of NZs Conservation Dept could be so unaware of the basic biophysics of trees in the face of gale-force stresses is beyond my comprehension. Anyone who has wandered off-track in NZs bush will have encountered windfalls. The scientific literature has numerous reports of wind damage to NZ forests – native and exotic.

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  193. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    Maggy Wassilieff. I lived in the west coast in the 70s and my job took me from Karamea to Haast. I fully understand how the climate can disrupt our beautiful native forest however I witnessed first hand the criminal behaviour of the greens who in spite of their publicity blurbs do not like the west coast.

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  194. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    Pohutukawa is not native to wellington and depending on where its grown and sourced from it takes many different forms including upright single trunk trees and a variety which grows as long ground touching branches.
    It has a nasty habit of dropping its large branches over time which re sprout spreading the tree outwards. There are trees On barrier that have spread 100m plus with the original trunk long since rotted away The writer of that story was exceedingly ignorant of our treescape.

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  195. RF (1,455 comments) says:

    Griff

    A beautiful flower. Similar to South Island Rata.

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  196. Griff (8,203 comments) says:

    metrosideros
    Southern rata Northern rata and Pohutukawa are all members of the family.
    My favorite native species I grow many from cuttings including this vine which is spectacular when it flowers.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosideros_carminea
    They are all under threat from possums.
    Hence the imperative that we keep numbers down using 1080

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  197. Maggy Wassilieff (452 comments) says:

    @ Griff… “The writer of that story was exceedingly ignorant of our treescape”.

    if you were referring to the opinion piece I linked to, then I’m in complete agreement with you.

    But the embarrassing thing is that the “story” was written by the then head of the Department of Conservation – Al Morrison.
    His extraordinary view that somehow native plants have evolved qualities that defy physics (too much load /stress) beggars belief.
    Where were his science advisors? Is there a forester left in DOC?

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