But, and for some this may give the delight of more to look forward to – merde, I hope so – the poll [Fairfax/Ipsos political poll] surveyed 1014 people between June 14 and 17, so does not actually include the revelation of yesterday’s [18th] letter to confirm Cunliffe really doesn’t know what he is doing, or did – to put it kindly
While his Caucus stand so firmly behind him [with daggers drawn] as the pre-election window opens, allowing them to dump Cunliffe without triggering the wider vote of the entire party’s membership – or needing secret six month loans – they should all know that this is not the lowest … it doesn’t cover yesterday’s debacle, so it can get worse yet.
[Hint to Cunliffe staff: if you can't find the copy you sent, most letters have two people involved, so ask the recipient, Immigration, for their copy, huh?]
NORMAN LAMONT: The people have spoken on mass immigration. So will the political class hear them?
For years, those who dared question the policy of mass immigration — including this newspaper — were shouted down as reactionary or plain racist.
But this week, a major new survey was published that revealed a dramatic hardening of attitudes by the British people as a whole towards immigration.
The 31st British Social Attitudes survey, by the country’s leading independent social research institute, found 95 per cent believe speaking English is an essential requirement of Britishness — up from 86 per cent a decade ago.
Not only that, nearly four out of five want immigration cut. And interestingly, from my point of view as a former Chancellor of the Exchequer, fewer than one in three thinks the mass influx has been good for the economy.
The Government-funded study, which is utterly apolitical, reveals the ‘disconnect’ between the people and the political class over immigration. That is why such attitudes should be ignored by politicians at their peril.
Fifty years ago, when annual levels of immigration were far lower, new arrivals could more easily be absorbed within British society. Indeed, migrants fully expected to be integrated into our national culture.
Today, however, this process has become much more difficult, not only because of the soaring rate of immigration, but also because of the emphasis on multiculturalism — a policy that carries the real danger of promoting the ‘Balkanisation’ of our society into separate communities.
“…….If the Joneses were somehow gaining access to the Smith’s home, squatting there and slowly taking over while the police refused to enforce trespassing laws, no one would wonder if the Smiths objected. The fact that Joneses aren’t Smiths would be explanation enough.
Or let’s say that millions of Chinese were flooding the Ivory Coast, were supplanting African culture and threatening to soon outnumber the Africans. Would we be surprised if the Ivorians were up in arms? Would anthropologists call the transformation anything but cultural genocide?
Again, though, we call this diversity. But there’s a funny thing about that oh-so necessary quality: It’s only encouraged in Western lands.
If diversity is such an imperative, why don’t we push it in Saudi Arabia, Japan, Tunisia, or Rwanda?
And don’t tell me we’re just minding our own business, as Obama thought nothing of parading around Africa last year preaching about homosexual rights.
The truth is that when liberals say “Our strength lies in our diversity,” they really mean their strength. They’re building a solid socialist majority that won’t blink at leftist corruption because these new arrivals are inured to it — corruption is status quo in their native lands….”
Cunliffe using phrases such as “those who don’t support me are scabs” sums up my utter contempt for the man and the party. Horrible socialist bully boy words. A party that doesn’t allow someone to be in individual and to think for themselves. You’re either with us or nothing else. Like the unions.
Chris Trotter on Radio Live this morning believes that the little known rule around sacking the leader 90 days out from an election was leaked to the media from within Labour. I wouldn’t even let Labour run a children’s birthday party.
@ lilman – it’s interesting that after three months of trying to “get” Collins and coming up short, Robertson doesn’t want to play “gotcha” politics any more. It’s obviously much more fun being the gettor than being the gettee!
And you have to admire Judith Collins for resisting the temptation to rub Robertson’s nose in it, given some of the things he has accused her of. But there was a glint in her eye that suggested she knows there’s more to come about Citizen Liu and dodgy, undeclared donations and gifts.
Why is he bringing the office of PM down by hanging out with these two sleaze bags? Hillary a liar who is in big trouble over Benghazi and her dereliction of duty that resulted in four dead Americans, and her husband, an alleged rapist and impeached ex president.
Check the picture for a facial expression that shows just what a fawning idiot JK really is. Its all about the photos he’s going to hang on his wall at home.
What staggers me is the apparent nonchalance expressed by MPs when signing letters. Many of Cunnliffe’s excusers (particularly at the standard and led by lprent) are trotting out the line that the letter was written by a staffer and put in front of Cunnliffe in a big pile of letters to sign, so it is no wonder that he can’t remember.
To me this is an abuse of position, as what they seem to be saying is that it doesn’t matter if the MP has no knowledge of what he is signing, his signature is enough to elicit some sort of action from a Government Department that an ORDINARY CITIZEN cannot obtain. Not only that but that MPs allow their signature to be attached to pretty much anything when they don’t actually know what they are signing and that they might as well scan their signatures and allow staff to copy and paste little text boxes onto any old correspondence.
Is it wrong to think that an MP should protect the power of his position and only use it when he is aware of the circumstances and confident that he is doing the right thing? If that is the case, the 10,000 pieces of correspondence signed by David Cunnliffe of his electorate office over the last x years might as well be toilet paper for all the prestige they carry.
Anyone with electorate office experience care to comment? Certainly expansive use of the MP’s position seems to be de rigeur in the electorate office in which lprent habitually lurks.
“I reckon most world leaders will stay away from Barry as he’s seen as a fool.”
He’ll be there in full fawning over LW moron mode,
Just like he demeaned the Prime Ministers office by appearing on the progressive Letterman show.
There’s something screwy about JK. The way he came to power within the Nats. The way he has taken them so far left. The way he is so friendly with left wing sleaze bag politicians all over the globe. It would be just too fantastic for him to be a Manchurian Candidate from the left, but if he was, he couldn’t do much better.
With Labour in such disarray they might as well just amalgamate with Key’s Nationals. That would leave the Conservatives as the only real opposition to the Progs and be a much more honest representation of the actual one party state system that NZ has descended into.
A lot of social power is based on established customs (respect for this, respect for that). When you bring in a new lot of people who have different customs, you’re going to lose some of your power. People don’t like that.
The country’s abortion rate has dropped at a significant rate in the past few years, but the reasons behind the fall are not clear, according to women’s health experts.
The rate of abortions performed last year was the lowest for 20 years, Statistics New Zealand said today.
A total of 14,073 induced abortions were performed last year – 672 fewer than in 2012.
The general abortion rate (abortions per 1000 women aged 15 – 44 years) decreased from 16.1 per 1000 in 2012 to 15.4 last year, SNZ said.
This rate was the lowest since 1994, when it was 15.3 per 1000.
Key’s role model Barack Hussein Obama was pretty popular too once. Now he’s got about the worst ratings ever as the disaster of the socialism he imposed upon the US constitutional republic becomes widely recognised.
One party states always come to an end, and Barack Hussain Key’s time will come just as it has for Obama.
“…..The country’s abortion rate has dropped at a significant rate in the past few years, but the reasons behind the fall are not clear, according to women’s health experts…..”
DPF posted those figures a few months back and I though exactly the same – why?
So I asked a few knowledgable ones in Aussie about it:
Social change – the message of the negative effects of abortion on women are starting to get through. They expect further decreases in australia and NZ.
Apparently the governments[nz and aus fed - and some of the states] don’t want to talk about abortion on any side of government – even with regards to the harm to women – so they are quietly leaving it up to the anti-abortion movement to get the message across.
With TDVM’s mouth always so firmly attached to his penis, its no wonder the Key picture above is above the waist landscape. Explains the stupid expression on both their faces. With his sad infatuation for progressive males, TDVM is probably down on his knees gobbling them both off.
Paulus – And of course the then Minister Barker did not receive any “donation” on behalf of the Labour Party because nobody can find it !
And nobody can now find the six month secret loan Cunliffe had for his leadership “primary” from sources unknown, because Hansard just does not record it. It did not happen, folks!
Ka-bang … another nail in Labour’s Cunloffin !
Listening to all the BS one thing that strikes me is that for most people all the party’s are offering is stumble on. There is no new engine going in the vehicle.
National is the exception (perhaps) with an immigration sugar rush but that only benefits one part at the expense of the other part.
Red would you like to link to Obumas worst ever approval rating for a usa president ?
Or are you doing a kea and just going to www:factspulledoutmyarse.com
I checked and it seems at the end of his terms bush was at around 25% significantly lower than barry is at present Bush Barry
Its interesting to see left and so called right binding to protect JK. Just shows what a hopeless one party socialist state NZ has become. Amazing really, all done without a shot being fired. But I guess that’s cultural Marxism for you. Far more effective strategy than mass murder and terror but still bringing the same result.
“…..I checked and it seems at the end of his terms bush was at around 25% significantly lower than barry is at present….”
Barry will be much lower in two yrs Griff —— and GWB vindicated also!
“…….Vice President Dick Cheney also warned of the rise of a caliphate if the U.S. withdrew before Iraq was capable of governing and defending itself. “They talk about wanting to re-establish what you could refer to as the seventh-century caliphate” to be “governed by Sharia law, the most rigid interpretation of the Koran,” he said.
“It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” — GW Bush…..”
Oils going through the fucken roof thanks to Barry — it’s already $1.70 for super here in QLD — what’s it in NZ ?
Key won’t want to be seen with the Chicongo Thug at the G20 – just like everyone else there!
And again the rule that says, when you read, “A new survey has revealed that………..”
what follows will be unadulterated bullshit has been proved.
This bullshit ranks up there with the last survey from some drone at Waikato whose survey revealed
that a third of NZ school children have mental health problems. (some people lap this up and wail. “The government must do something.”)
Hey Harry, see how these dumbarsed progs sneeringly dismiss any information source that undermines the blanket LW memes of the MSM?
Too stupid to know that these internet publications are taking over as the main information source for most people, given that the MSM is just an updated version of the old Soviet propaganda source Pravda.
Let the snot nosed idiots isolate themselves. The less they know about what is really going on the better.
The Federal Reserve has sharply cut its forecast for US growth this year, reflecting a shrinking economy last quarter caused mostly by harsh weather.
At the same time, the Fed has barely increased its estimate of inflation despite signs that consumer price increases are picking up. Its benign inflation outlook suggests that the Fed doesn’t feel rising pressure to raise short-term interest rates.
The Fed updated its economic forecasts after a two-day policy meeting.
“……one positive thing anyone can do is join the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions “Get out and vote” campaign. If you get just one more person to enrol and vote you will have played a positive role…..”
yep. It’s a big role alright……..bigger than the role the Unions themselves have been playing inside Labour. They should’ve taken charge earlier…….about the time Helen left actually – as everything else in Labour was to small to fill that void – as we’ve all seen.
19 June 2014 at 8:56 am
Yesterday I was dumping the first timers who couldn’t manage to write a coherent comment, and passing others through on probation who could write a coherent comment. In the latter case, two deteriorated to munters and got changed to spam.
But on the whole we seem to have managed to get reasonably literate righties. After nearly 7 years running this site, it looks like we have finally managed some genetic changes through natural selection.
19 June 2014 at 10:52 am
Yeah I know what you mean – some fool over at the right wing Kiwi Blog called me a ‘defective loser with a small dick’ – just last week actually.
Harriet pontificates more absurd and hysterical nonsense possibly suggesting Pope Francis like his predecessor Urban II preaches another Western Crusade against the ISIS Caliphate .?
Petrol here is $2.05 down at the local station and the price elsewhere seems to be stable. And you get hysterical about petrol in Queensland at $1.70. ? Do some walking and exercise couch sloth.!
The US is no longer dependent on ME oil and we ourselves import little oil from Iraq.
As matter of interest Al Qaeda has denounced ISIS as the bitter factionalism continues amongst the Jihadist .,
Father Of California Massacre Victim: ‘When Will This Insanity Stop?’
“Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven irresponsible politicians and the NRA (National Rifle Association). They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live? When will this insanity stop?” Richard Martinez told reporters, a day after the shootings near the University of California.”
Chris was about toi embark on a study scholarship to London. The father plans to got Washington D. C to continue to fight for tighter gun controls. Am afraid he will likely not get far given the power of that other government in the US , the NRA.
Its incredible that these shooting sprees and massacres are blamed on the Obama administration as a conspiracy to get tighter gun control by many insane conspiracy theorists .
You left Bradford off that list of shame. her Bill was sold on the basis that this would be stopped , not to mention the rest of parliament who let that piece of cultural marxist crap pass into law.A law designed to criminalise good parents.
Ex-Counterterrorism Czar Richard Clarke: Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld Committed War Crimes
Richard Clarke, the nation’s former top counterterrorism official, tells Democracy Now! he believes President George W. Bush is guilty of war crimes for launching the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Clarke served as national coordinator for security and counterterrorism during Bush’s first year in office. He resigned in 2003 following the Iraq invasion and later made headlines by accusing Bush officials of ignoring pre-9/11 warnings about an imminent attack by al-Qaeda. “I think things that they authorized probably fall within the area of war crimes,” Clarke says. “Whether that would be productive or not, I think, is a discussion we could all have. But we have established procedures now with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where people who take actions as serving presidents or prime ministers of countries have been indicted and have been tried. So the precedent is there to do that sort of thing. And I think we need to ask ourselves whether or not it would be useful to do that in the case of members of the Bush administration. It’s clear that things that the Bush administration did — in my mind, at least — were war crimes.”
Thank you for your email. I can confirm that the relocation of Labour’s parliamentary staff into a large open plan office aligns with the functions that these parliamentary staff members perform in support the Labour Leaders Office. I am assured it is not related to election activities which you rightly point out should be kept separate. Thank you for writing to me on this matter.
Rt Hon David Carter
Speaker of the House of Representatives
“I am assured it is not related …” this surely means this room is not used in any way connected with the Election.
So why is this Caucus Room regularly referred to as the War Room by bloggers [Whaleoil in particular] commenters, politicians and the main stream media?
Has someone in Labour lied to the Speaker, or did he go and assess the room’s activities himself?
You need to bear in mind that despite being speaker, Carter is, after all, a National MP. On that basis his first duty is to ensure that the liebour war room remains intact. With that in mind, please don’t press this issue any further.
kowtow and wiki,
Neither Dick Cheney , Rumfsield , GWB or Bill Clinton could be remotely described as war criminals in the same sense as the Nuremberg Trials. Its a loaded and emotive term loosely bandied about by Conspiracy Theorists and the far left without respect to the historical facts.
There is no evidence that Cheney etc deliberately and willfully set out to massacre iraqi civilians even if one ( like me) disagrees with the invasion.
Democracy Now is often so full of polemic, rhetoric and hot air.!
New Zealand’s tax policies don’t attempt to reign in wealth inequality even though it is well known that significant wealth inequality can destablise economies. That wealth inequality flies in the face of egalitarian values is another potential point against it.
mikenmild , yes but in addition genocide of racial groups like Jews and Gipsies as well as the massacre of civilian populations as at the Eastern Front, Czechoslovakia Lidice and e.g France at Lyons and especially here ,
Dear god. 70 years later and the generations of good German people since ww2 are still being persecuted for the crimes committed by people they didn’t even know. Let’s talk about what’s happening today. Right now. Let’s talk about what israel is doing in Palestine and has been for 70 years in succession – the rapes, the torture, the ethnic cleansing, the murder – year after year after year. ‘YOU’RE A NAUGHTY BOY, FAWLTY’
Hi Kiwibloggers I’m currently in Brisbane having just finished attending the G20 Anti-Corruption Conference along with fellow anti-corruption ‘whistle-blower’ Grace Haden. A number of attendees seemed unaware that despite NZs ‘perceived’ status as ‘the least corrupt country in the world’ – NZ STILL has yet to ratify the UN Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC) & Minister of Justice Judith Collins ‘Organised Crime & Anti-Corruption Legislation Bill’ (the passage of which is required before NZ can ratify UNCAC) has STILL yet to surface in the House. Still smiling Judith? (Meant of course in a caring way LOTS more to come …. Kind regards Penny Bright
Gosh Penny, that’s terrible. NZ not ratifying a UN convention. The horror of it all.
I see your appearance where you whip them all into shape has made You Tube. Well done. You’re looking good. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6TP50f3BAs0
Penny, give one good reason why New Zealand, being one of the two least corrupt countries in the world, should sign the UN Convention, considering Afghanistan rates as most corrupt country, equal with North Korea and Somalia –
But Afghanistan has both signed and ratified the United Nations Convention against Corruption. Signing means nothing. In fact it may be considered morally corrupt, meant in the nicest way possible
The most irritating thing about our self appointed Prog cultural guardian and his lame comments is that they reek of the author’s assumption that he is oh so witty and smart, when he isn’t anything but an unfunny devoid of wit stinking lowlife coward.
Penny might be wrong about a lot of things but she’s got fifty times the guts TDVM will ever have.
In case you haven’t noticed, there is a nice little Corruption matter for you to get your teeth into when you arrive back.
It involves your friends in the New Zealand Labour Party, and being the completely impartial ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGNER that you are, we here at Kiwiblog ALL expect that you will give this matter your fullest and most complete attention and take the matter to the High Court, since after all, you did exactly that in respect of Mr. Banks.
And, of course, even if he becomes Prime Minister, we also expect that you will relentlessly pursue Mr. David Cunnliffe to the same end, and beyond.
You have set the bar high m’dear, so naturally you will be expected to reach at least that same height, and, indeed, because of the high profile status of Mr. Cunnliffe, to exceed it by a truly amazing amount.
As you have continuously regaled with tales of your accomplishments as an ‘Anti Corruption Campaigner”, your ‘fans’ will expect no less.
“Democracy” is today a supremely fashionable word in our country, mouthed in endless variations, flaunted, brandished, and exploited for personal advantage. But there is no tangible evidence that we have given close thought to the exact meaning of this term.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn in “Rebuilding Russia: Manifesto for a rebirth of Russia”, 1996
Here’s the go Kiwibloggers If YOU believe that a bribery or corruption offence has been committed by ANY person – this is what YOU can do: Make a formal written complaint to the Police or SFO YOURSELF and see how you get on ….. Kind regards Penny Bright
What the overeducated wanker said was….”The poorest Kiwi children are now no better off than some children in the slums of India”…. So if you wish to dance on the head of a pin you’re arguing “no worse off” vs “are worse off”.
Cricko’s comment is fair. The socialist professor was trying for pathos in order to get his pitiful book read knowing full well that the left cuddling MSM would provide him with publicity.
There is NO child poverty in NZ that cannot be sheeted home to useless breeders who are flatteringly described as parents. The blame lies with them & no one else.
RE:’I f YOU believe that a bribery or corruption offence has been committed by ANY person – this is what YOU can do: Make a formal written complaint to the Police or SFO YOURSELF and see how you get on’
No, no Penelope, , you don’t understand. It’s YOU who have to make to ‘formal written complaint’.
You have your REPUTATION as an ‘ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGNER’ that YOU have to uphold. You’ve hectored us for several years about your beliefs and actions, and have taken J. Banks to court with much glee.
It’s YOU who have to follow through with this matter, NOT the Kiwiblog habitues.
The case is there, the CORRUPTION is there (and growing BTW). it’s time for you to bring all your much vaunted and touted ANTI CORRUPTION EXPERTISE into the public gaze, and prove that you are actually what you say you are;
A ‘Valiant destroyer of Corruption’ boldly going where no-one else has so far dared to go.
Effectively, for you, Ms Bright, it’s now a case of ‘Put up or. . .’
Over to you….
Kiwiblog will be watching your actions with interest.
I read your comment on the “economic growth” thread about mortgage payments on one income….been there, done that. Briefly I had two mortgages (the 2nd at 23% int) three kids & two jobs to pay the bills. The good news is that it does get better.
Maybe because of this, authors wanking on about comparative poverty make me nauseous. Living on a low income or a benefit would not be great but it’s not all tea & skittles for the workers either. The bleeding hearts want your kids’ welfare reduced by taking money off you to give to the feckless.
If the bludgers want another cent of my money then let them receive all welfare largess via targeted cards instead of cash….if there’s still a problem then I’ll listen.
I guess you are too lazy, or too stupid, to refer to the thread in question. I can’t be bothered helping you with that, but IIRC that statement was that some children in New Zealand live in worse poverty than some children in India.
I’m paying for the trip myself – no registration fee has made it a lot more affordable. Actually BOYolo – I am not employed by anyone – thought you were a bit more up with the play. Silly me But keep biting! (Gumming …. it makes my day – you silly wee thing – meant of course in a caring way. Penny Bright
BB: I just had a look over there…curious as to how they are spinning Cunliffe’s latest troubles…they are eating each other!! I am not too up on the leftie factions, but that Clown “bomber” is usually one of them isn’t he? lprent is giving him a right roasting…Usual story, they are all censoring each others comments…priceless…
Bradbury and Prentice ripping in to each other for controlling the messages on their blogs is kinda hilarious.
But this is better:
I’ve been thinking about the crisis enveloping David Cunliffe and the Labour Party. It seems increasingly clear that the whole thing was a National party setup.
But if the Nats think this is some sort of victory for them, they should think again. The whole thing is backfiring badly, and they will end up regretting their smear. Already the nation is turning on National, as people wake up and realise who is behind this scandal. I’ve seen at least three people on my Twitter feed questioning National’s tactics.
I’m not at all worried about the polls out this week, one of which showed support for Labour as low as 23%. 23% is a pretty good base to build from, and if Labour can hold that number on September 20 and then do deals with the Greens, Mana-Internet, NZ First, the Maori Party, Peter Dunne, and ACT, they should be able to form a government, if several National MPs also defect to Labour.
But the polls will go up, as people finally wake up and realise how rotten and corrupt this pack of Tories are. National will rue the day they ever attacked the credibility of David Cunliffe. I’m sure they will. Any moment now the public of this country will cry “enough!” and sweep Labour into power.
There is no disaster for Labour here. Only opportunity. This will be a strategic victory for Labour and for David Cunliffe, mark my words.
It makes you wonder, though. It’s so obvious that this will now backfire that it almost makes you wonder if David Cunliffe planned it to turn out this way.
Supposing Cunliffe engineered the entire thing, knowing his opponents would not be able to help themselves? Knowing that when it all blew up in their faces, he would be triumphant.
If that’s what happened, then David Cunliffe is a genius. A legend.
This is a disaster for National (update: now four people on my Twitter feed have questioned National’s tactics). Any moment now the polls will rebound. Any moment now the public will rise up in disgust at National’s dirty tactics.
She might be kinda hot but you would have to tell her to STFU, that voice would drive me crazy. What is it with Yanks coming over here and telling us what to do?, its not as if they have not fucked up their own country enough.
bb. I remember waiting at Wellington Airport many years ago for a passenger (in the days when you could walk along the long corridor out to the gates) and and old Yankee chap in a white jacket and red trousers popped out of the plane with a huge camera hanging round his neck. Next out was his fugely wife who commenced with…”Hiram..Hiram..I told you to wait for me…..etc…etc.”
I never have worked out why Hiram never shot the bitch long before he ever ended up here with her!
What is it with the Greens when it comes to a lack of humour?
Oh, by the way. Check out Twitter, the fucking moonbat Deahunty (the one who wants a roll in education should they form part of the next government) has tweeted about education and totally fucked up the name of the school she had been attending.
I see the Dyke Iprent from the the Labour rag is threatening 3 month bans for anyone not spreading their cheeks for labour. This guy is a sick unit who lives in his own world. Never met the idiot but going by his rants he must be a fat little stumpy shit with a small dick. Brave man behind his key board but a wimp if confronted.
While I am in full flight I see the scum sucking greens are upset that the West Coast will survive to live another day. The Govt is going to allow the fallen trees to be milled. This will equate to many jobs in the depressed region and a much needed income for the residents. The greens would rather see the trees rot along with the good west coasters than see the area progress. These are the same bastards that use to hammer nails into trees about to be milled.
I am surprised that Egor the west coast Gween member manages to get a few votes but I forget he is a list MP so no value. Get a real job son.
How the head of NZs Conservation Dept could be so unaware of the basic biophysics of trees in the face of gale-force stresses is beyond my comprehension. Anyone who has wandered off-track in NZs bush will have encountered windfalls. The scientific literature has numerous reports of wind damage to NZ forests – native and exotic.
Maggy Wassilieff. I lived in the west coast in the 70s and my job took me from Karamea to Haast. I fully understand how the climate can disrupt our beautiful native forest however I witnessed first hand the criminal behaviour of the greens who in spite of their publicity blurbs do not like the west coast.
Pohutukawa is not native to wellington and depending on where its grown and sourced from it takes many different forms including upright single trunk trees and a variety which grows as long ground touching branches.
It has a nasty habit of dropping its large branches over time which re sprout spreading the tree outwards. There are trees On barrier that have spread 100m plus with the original trunk long since rotted away The writer of that story was exceedingly ignorant of our treescape.
Southern rata Northern rata and Pohutukawa are all members of the family.
My favorite native species I grow many from cuttings including this vine which is spectacular when it flowers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosideros_carminea
They are all under threat from possums.
Hence the imperative that we keep numbers down using 1080
@ Griff… “The writer of that story was exceedingly ignorant of our treescape”.
if you were referring to the opinion piece I linked to, then I’m in complete agreement with you.
But the embarrassing thing is that the “story” was written by the then head of the Department of Conservation – Al Morrison.
His extraordinary view that somehow native plants have evolved qualities that defy physics (too much load /stress) beggars belief.
Where were his science advisors? Is there a forester left in DOC?