Dotcom boasts of hacking a PM and refuses comment

August 25th, 2014 at 5:17 am by David Farrar

3 News reports:

The Internet Mana election launch has ended in disaster, with running from the building as journalists were sworn at.

And his bodyguards trying to physically block journalists from following him.

It all started after Dotcom made reference to hacking in his speech, and when journalists wanted to ask him more, whether it was linked with Dirty Politics, it turned ugly.

Internet Mana press secretary Pam Corkery was not happy journalists wanted to talk to Dotcom.

“You puffed-up little s**t,” she said. “He doesn’t want to. He said three times, ‘I don’t want to give you an interview.’ He’s not a candidate. He doesn’t owe you anything. When will you glove puppets of Cameron Slater just piss off?”

So were the media being unreasonable?

Dotcom denies he’s the hacker behind Dirty Politics, but at the party’s campaign launch today said this.

“I hacked our German credit rating system and put our Prime Minister’s credit rating to zero because I didn’t like the guy,” said Dotcom. “You have all figured by now there’s another Prime Minister I don’t like.”

So Dotcom gives a keynote speech to their campaign launch, boasts how he once hacked the German Prime Minister because he didn’t like him, and then mentions how he doesn’t like John Key.

Of course the media will want to interview him about this, no matter how much Pam Corkey yells abuse at them. He wasn’t a spectator at the launch, he was a keynote speaker.

As for whether Dotcom had anything to do with the hacking, well he clearly knew what was in the Hager book before it was published, and has not been able to answer the question how.

But he didn’t want to talk about his comments afterwards.

The abuse started when we were filming, explaining Dotcom was in hiding.

“We’ve talked about jobs today and people living in poverty.” said Corkery. “You want to interview Kim, who said no interviews, about a 19-year-old story. You work in news!”

First of all press secretaries don’t dictate to the media who they are interested in interviewing. He was a speaker, not an observer. Secondly Dotcom is the one who referred to the 19 year old story, so it is natural to want to ask him about it.

But he didn’t want to talk about his comments afterwards.

The abuse started when we were filming, explaining Dotcom was in hiding.

“We’ve talked about jobs today and people living in poverty.” said Corkery. “You want to interview Kim, who said no interviews, about a 19-year-old story. You work in news!”

But he didn’t want to talk about his comments afterwards.

The abuse started when we were filming, explaining Dotcom was in hiding.

So the Internet Mana launch ended in disaster, with talk of hacking, Dotcom running off and media abuse

I don’t know if Dotcom was behind the political espionage hacking, but what we do know is this.

  1. Dotcom has convictions for hacking
  2. Dotcom is very wealthy
  3. Dotcom hates Slater and Key
  4. Many ex Dotcom friends and staffers were giving information to Slater
  5. Dotcom yesterday boasted that he hacked the German PM because he didn’t like him
  6. Dotcom’s chances of not being extradited to the United States are hugely enhanced if he managed to change the Government

It’s not proof, but it is certainly means and motive.

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  1. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

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  2. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    This could well be a turning point in the run up to the election.
    The MSM have now every reason to follow up a story that the rest of NZ discovered about a week ago.
    That is that the source material for Nick Hager’s novel has Krim Dotcoms oversized fingerprints all over it.
    Expect a rash of gagging orders today from Krim’s lawyers to every media outlet in the country from Granny Herald to the Ekatahuna Monthly Chronicle.
    And by the way, has anyone got a job for Pam Corkey, I thnik she might be looking for one!

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  3. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    Interesting point Penny,
    Now we know why there was no Whale Dump yesterday.
    Krim didn’t want to over shadow his own campaign launch.

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  9. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    “I hacked our German credit rating system and put our Prime Minister’s credit rating to zero because I didn’t like the guy. You have all figured by now there’s another Prime Minister I don’t like.”

    Dotcom has been boasting about his hacking history in the Internet-Mana meetings around the country. I heard him in Dunedin.

    I think this is different. Being at their campaign launch is significant. And I think the direct connection with not liking our Prime Minister is different.

    So Dotcom seems to have accidentally or deliberately linked his hacking nineteen years ago to the current hacking.

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  10. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    Penny, You seem to have learnt your manners in the same school of etiquitte as Pam Corkery. – meant in a caring sort of way.
    You ask “Got any EVIDENCE ‘Dead Earnest’ to back up your allegation that the source material for Nicky Hager’s book have Kim Dotcom’s ‘oversized fingers all over it’?”

    Just the glaring circumstantial evidence that the rest of NZ seems to have picked up, but seem to to some how have avoided your penertrating investgative ability.

    1. Krim has a criminal record involving the hacking of computers.
    2. He has boasted that he has hacked a computer to disadvantage a German PM.
    3. He has indicated that there is another PM that it is publicly known that he dislikes.
    4. This PM is John Key
    5. The Hager book produced from source material that was hacked from Cameron Slater’s computer, was intended to derail John Key’s re-election campaign.
    6. Krim Dotcom’s body guard testified on Radio Live that he had been told by Krim that he head hired proffessionals to take down Slater.
    7. Krim’s is desperate not to get in a postion where he has to face the media as to his possible connection with ‘Whale Dump”.
    Just a start Penny, but with you long standing record of sniffing out corruption you would be able to put together a far more comprehensive dossier.
    OR do you only look for the failings of centre right politicians?

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  11. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Her ‘tirade’ still helped Internet Mana get headline news – so at election time how is this a bad thing?

    Similar lines have been spreading around, including that it was typical of deliberate attention seeking of Corkery. While that’s possible why would she deliberately want to highlight that particular issue?

    That wouldn’t seem to be very smart. Surely it would be one of the last things Corkery would want to attract media attention to.

    It could have been a slip by Dotcom. And it could have been over-reaction from Corkery because it is closer to home than Dotcom has usually admitted.

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  13. fragbait (13 comments) says:

    is penny a real name or a standard name?
    If standard, may be it is Pam

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  15. Bogusnews (474 comments) says:

    Good points Dead Earnest. You can also add KDC admitted in texts that he had “hired professionals to get me information” and that “Slater was going down”

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  16. duggledog (1,559 comments) says:

    “Dotcom’s chances of not being extradited to the United States are hugely enhanced if he managed to change the Government”

    No, no and no. His new BFFs will turn on him in a second. These people he surrounds himself with are the most untrustworthy, callow, deceitful people in the country. If it suits their purpose, Cunliffe, Norman, Turei, Harawira, Peters, right down to the worst of them all Harre will sell him down the river without even thinking

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  17. Scott1 (552 comments) says:

    From what I have heard Dotcom uses the term ‘Hack’ as a metaphor for all sorts of things. He ‘hacks the political process’ he hacks the business world he ‘hacks just about everything. It means something like “to make changes and succeed in achieving your aim, usually though the use of your intelligence”.
    He might be behind the hacker in some sense but this isn’t any particular reason to think that beyond what we already know about Dotcom.

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  19. fragbait (13 comments) says:

    okay pam thanks for clearing that up

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  20. Bogusnews (474 comments) says:

    Penny,

    I can happily say I haven’t read dirty politics. I suspect it will be very similar to Hagers previous effort, “the hollow men”.

    This book, while accepted naively by the media and treated with all the veracity of the two stone tablets that came down from the mount, was an absolute joke.

    Let me give you a couple of examples: Michael Bassett explained there was a page of emails that according to Hager had come from him, but he never wrote any of them. Stephen Franks mentioned on Radio Live last week that his emails, many of which were separated by years, were joined into a continuous narrative. This gave them completely the wrong impression.

    There were many, many mistakes in that book, none of which the media were prepared to expose. Already in his latest book many errors and downright lies have been exposed.

    I can’t be bothered reading so called political narratives which start with “Once upon a time.”

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  21. FeralScrote (220 comments) says:

    Poor ol` Penny ,you are a day late and a dollar short if you are hoping to get some of Dotcrims crumbs,Laila and Hone were the last cab off that rank once he discovered he could not buy any National party politicians.
    Your amazingly bedazzled double standard when it comes to corruption is fascinating and highlights your willingness to gobble german sausage to score petty points against those who don`t share your blinkered politics.

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  22. Nukuleka (332 comments) says:

    publicwatchdog: please deal with the issues in hand- in this case Corkery’s outburst and Dotcom’s boasts about his hacking skills. Diverting the topic is the first resort of those with nothing valid to add to the argument.

    It would be a little like me asking you whether you’ve paid your rates yet! Something that I’d never dream of doing, of course, ‘cos I’m too much of a caring person.

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  23. IGM (421 comments) says:

    Public Dog: Wait till Emails between McCarten, Slobcom, Cunliffe, Goff, and maybe you, become public! You lefties will really have a wimper. If the strength of your reading ability is stolen fiction, edited by a leech, you are in need of medication or incarceration.

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  25. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    Penny you ask in a friendly sort of way the following -Have you ‘Dead Earnest’ read ‘Dirty Politics’?

    The answer is no I don’t need to.

    The cardinal points have all been sumarised and pulished widely.
    The book is not a book of facts, it is merely the stringing together of criminally aquired communications to concoct a fictional conspiracy in order to manipulate the democratic pocess.

    The question today is: What is Krim Dotcoms involvment in the criminal aquistion of Cameron Slater’s private communications?

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  26. OneTrack (3,114 comments) says:

    Right-wing Watchdog is doing her best to take over Corkery’s job.

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  28. FeralScrote (220 comments) says:

    The simple FACT Penny that you are willing to sell this countries sovereignty to a fat german slug so he can avoid extradition to face charges that he made his millions by thieving copyright from its rightful owners.
    The simple FACT that you find criminality acceptable to further your deluded political ends.
    The simple FACT that you want this country to turn into some third world shithole by imposing failed political dogma upon us because you are incapable of learning the lessons of the past.

    Felice navidad

    Feral.

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  29. Gravelroad (155 comments) says:

    MR Dotcom has made a tactical error.
    He has had a fantastic, critically unchallenged run so far which has made him and his supporters over confident.
    But New Zealand is not Europe.
    His is a sideshow of little consequence to the many “ordinary” kiwis out here who have standards based on different values to those promoted by Mr Dotcom.
    He is getting a bit boring really, although marginally less boring than Mr Hager.

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  30. fernglas (157 comments) says:

    There is currently a restraining order on Dotcom’s assets, although apparently not those acquired since the order was registered. He is appealing an order directing him to disclose details of his assets, and if the order is granted, we may get to see whether Internet Mana has been funded legitimately or with the proceeds of crime, in breach of a court order. The forfeiture proceedings to which the restraining order relates will take place before April 2015, when the order runs out. If Dotcom wants to defend those proceedings successfully, he will have to go to the States voluntarily. If he does not, he will lose most of his wealth. What will his decision be? Go and be locked up, or stay here and lose it all, then be extradited anyway? Things are getting tough for him, but not as tough as they would be for anyone who has promised to support his bid to stay and then does not come good on the promise. I cannot see any government with pretensions of legitimacy overturning a court extradition order, and I include any coalition of the left in this. It would be corrupt cronyism on a scale that would make Judith Collins blush.

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  31. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    People from the left are leaping to Dotcom’s defence.

    In Didn’t see that coming Russell Brown posts:

    Firstly: Kim Dotcom did not “admit to hacking” at the Internet-Mana campaign launch today, as both network news shows claimed this evening.

    His “teenage hacker made good” story is Dotcom Bio 101. It’s on his Wikipedia page. It was traversed extensively when he was a witness in John Banks’ court case this year. It’s been part of his stump speech at every stop on the Internet-Mana roadshow. You can basically read exactly what he said today in the Southland Times’ report on the coalition’s Invercargill stop two weeks ago.

    But the report from the Southland meeting says:

    He hacked Nasa “because I wanted to know if aliens really exist”. He hacked a bank “because I wanted to donate $20 million to Greenpeace because I really like what they are doing”. He also hacked to bring the German prime minister’s credit rating down to zero “because I didn’t like the guy”.

    That reflects the same as what I heard him say in Dunedin. He didn’t add the link to not liking the Prime Minister.

    I don’t know if he started adding the PM link in his meetings after the Dirty Politics hacking became a big story (the book was released the day after the Invercargill meeting). If it did surely someone would have reported it.

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  34. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    publicwatchdog at 7:10 am

    I don’t do ‘personal dirt’ IGM.

    So, just for clarification, Penny, do you consider the following actions to be ‘dirty politics’, or ‘personal dirt’, or ‘nasty politics’:

    – accusing John Key of lacking any ethics or morals
    – stating that ACT stands for “Associated with Crooks and Thieves!”
    – referring to John Banks as ‘dodgy’, the ‘Not-So-Honourable’ and stating he has all the class of a rat with a gold tooth
    – displaying, on your website, a series of cartoons showing John Banks as a rat
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Key as a pig
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Banks as a pig wallowing in mud
    – accusing John Key of faking sincerity
    – defacing your political opponents’ billboards with your own signs, including one that calls John Banks the ‘best politician that money can buy’

    Or are these actions okay, and quite acceptable? Calling somebody (effectively) immoral and unethical, and portraying somebody as a rat and a pig wallowing in mud isn’t ‘dirty’ or ‘personal’?

    Just wondering …

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  35. IGM (421 comments) says:

    Once a dog, always a dog!

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  36. PaulL (5,987 comments) says:

    I think people are missing the very blatant mistake that Corkery made yesterday. The press secretary for the Internet Mana party thinks that Whale is a “glove puppet.” But anyone who spent time on the internet would know the correct term is “sock puppet.” Once again demonstrating that DotCom’s hired politicians aren’t really suitable to his party branding.

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  37. Sporteone (43 comments) says:

    I find this whole situation with the media very hard to swallow. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the big fat german, but when has it become the media’s right to interview someone. Sounds like they have more rights than the Police. Just because someone says something, it does not give the media the right to know more about it or question someone about it.

    Or are the media trying to say that they are the public’s mouth piece and the public has a right to know. The do not have a right to know but shamelessly they seem to think they do.

    The media need to get some balls and where someone doesn’t speak to them, then just don’t report what they have said. Oh that’s right someone else might report on it and Oh Yes, someone might actually go out and do some investigative journalism and actually investigate something before reporting on it, instead of waiting for the next email to be released.

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  38. Grant (444 comments) says:

    Dear Laila
    Just heard you on Hosking’s show.

    Do you really believe people are stupid enough to believe all that crap about dotcom, saying his gloating about hacking the German PM was in reality his way of talking about a policy that you have regarding government supporting businesses? That you could enough say that on air says so much about the values of your self and your party.

    PS, really enjoyed the way dotcom’s tweet about Corkery blindsided you too.

    Hang you head in shame.
    G

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  40. kiwi in america (2,454 comments) says:

    Kim Dotcom thinks he’s 10 foot tall (and wide) and bulletproof. He’s watched the NZ MSM fall for Hager’s book hook, line and sinker and run serious interference on National’s election campaign. He’s arranged the hacking of Slater’s emails and passed the worst of his internal private musings to Hager who printed supposition, private boasts and draft WIP material as immutable fact and has managed to smear Slater in an attempt to isolate him and his blog. He’s tried to silence former employees like Temporo and gag the few media outlets prepared to interview him. He’s circumvented the court ordered freeze on his assets. he’s bought a whole political party and massively funded it. His arrogance and hubris would make Hitler blush so it comes as no surprise that he would repeat his hacking boasts at the IMP launch and then refuse to answer media questions about it.

    Penny – the trail of incidental known facts about Dotcom are PRECISELY the sorts of leads that prosecutors or true investigative journalists (as opposed to left wing extremists who abuse the lengthy unpaid rates recovery process) use to investigate corruption. Were Dotcom funding the Conservatives to the tune if $4million, had he hacked Chris Trotter’s blog and threaten to bring down Helen Clark’s government, you’d be all in a lather of indignation over his actions. Your defence of IMP is as bad as Laila Hare and Hone Harawira taking Dotcom’s money while purporting to act for the very poor he despises. All he wants is a government minister who won’t sign the extradition order and he’ll use every dumb lefty he can bribe to achieve his goal – you included.

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  41. hmmokrightitis (1,590 comments) says:

    So vandalism of property is clean now is it?

    Hows about I come down with a spray can to your house and indulge in a little ‘political satire’?

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  43. holysheet (397 comments) says:

    Igm you got that wrong
    it’s once bitch, always a bitch.

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  44. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Russell Brown @publicaddress

    Righto. So we’re going to have at least a day of obsessing about a theory (Dotcom is Whaledump) that is quite unlikely for various reasons.

    Russell with more defence of Dotcom.

    Dotcom is almost certainly not @Whaledump – but that doesn’t rule out some much more likely possibilities.

    Dotcom has a motive and a history that makes linking him in some way to @Whaledump believable, especially after his speech yesterday.

    But remember that there appears to be more than one hacker. David Fisher claims to be sourced from a separate hacker. Fisher has an established relationship with Dotcom.

    There’s more than one way Dotcom could be linked to the hacking.

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  45. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Penny – the above actions have gone way beyond “hard hitting political satire” or “fighting hard”.

    Some of your actions over recent years have been just plain bloody nasty, to be frank. Your hatred of John Key does rather seem to blind you to what is acceptable behaviour, and what is not. Case in point – in 2012 you joined Auckland Action Against Poverty to protest against John Key, who was attending a charity lunch that was aiming to raise money for a new children’s ward at Waitakere hospital.

    You seem to think it is quite acceptable to picket a charity event for a children’s ward at a hospital, solely to make some sort of point against John Key. Well in my considered opinion, it most certainly is NOT acceptable.

    Not a good look Penny.

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  46. PaulL (5,987 comments) says:

    @Sporteone: but the media can report on the fact that he said something rather suggestive, and then refused to talk about it any more. Which is news. As predicted, the german can’t keep his mouth shut, and will get himself in trouble.

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  47. Gravelroad (155 comments) says:

    I always thought that the role of the media was to report the facts and let the public make up their own minds.

    Do we really require constant leadership and guidance from reporters?
    Even the most professional reporters/journalists are not subject to the rigours faced by those at the ballot box and are not accountable to anyone other than their direct employers.

    Let the facts speak for themselves.

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  49. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    I don’t know if Dotcom was behind the political espionage hacking, but what we do know is this.

    Much like:I don’t know if Slater was behind the political espionage hacking, but what we do know is this.

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  50. metcalph (1,430 comments) says:

    Beginning to think that Penny Bright is a Glove Puppet of Cameron Slater for her unconvincing defence of Pam Corkney and Kim Dotcom…

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  51. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Whatever Graham.

    As usual – I take full personal responsibility for my actions.

    I’ll call it as I see it – you don’t have to like it.

    Penny Bright

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  52. itstricky (1,851 comments) says:

    mjw (319 comments) says:
    August 25th, 2014 at 6:15 am
    Kim Dotcom today denied that he had anything to do with hacking German credit ratings. “When I said I was involved,” he said……..

    Comedy gold

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  53. Tarquin North (305 comments) says:

    The fat german emperors clothes are looking a shade transparent. Never mind, he can borrow a frock off his only friend Penny.

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  54. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Dotcom has admitted to being “very unwise” for making the connection between his hacking history and not liking the current Prime Minister. He said he is on his “final final warning”.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/20146934/kim-dotcom-live

    That’s another curious connection. There are widespread calls for Judith Collins to resign for being unwise.

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  55. oldpark (338 comments) says:

    My inference was the way the person known as Spam Cockery,was attacking the “media” with her vile back street common hussy language was, she had read all the hacked emails, that were stolen from Cameron Slater.She just couldn’t help herself.Heard” Dirty” Harre on the radio digging the hole deeper and deeper trying to defend the indefensible.

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  56. 2clever4U (20 comments) says:

    Pubic Wash Dog

    You’re barking up the wrong tree.

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  57. Ashley Schaeffer (488 comments) says:

    That Pam Corkery always adds a real touch of class wherever she goes, doesn’t she? If your Press Secretary can’t handle the Press in a civil manner, you’ve got to wonder what you’re paying for.

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  58. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Err … you may well take full personal responsibility for your actions, but you haven’t actually answered the question (which is pretty standard for you, so I’m not surprised).

    Do you consider the following actions to be ‘dirty politics’, or ‘personal dirt’, or ‘nasty politics’:

    – accusing John Key of lacking any ethics or morals
    – stating that ACT stands for “Associated with Crooks and Thieves!”
    – referring to John Banks as ‘dodgy’, the ‘Not-So-Honourable’ and stating he has all the class of a rat with a gold tooth
    – displaying, on your website, a series of cartoons showing John Banks as a rat
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Key as a pig
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Banks as a pig wallowing in mud
    – accusing John Key of faking sincerity
    – defacing your political opponents’ billboards with your own signs, including one that calls John Banks the ‘best politician that money can buy’

    Or are these actions okay, and quite acceptable? Calling somebody (effectively) immoral and unethical, and portraying somebody as a rat and a pig wallowing in mud isn’t ‘dirty’ or ‘personal’?

    In addition … is it acceptable, in the pursuit of ‘making a point’ against somebody you dislike, to picket at a charity lunch that is aiming to raise money for a new children’s ward at Waitakere hospital.

    I’m sure that people in your ‘future electorate’ of Helensville would be VERY interested to know the answers to questions such as these. ESPECIALLY if you take ‘full personal responsibility’ for picketing a childrens’ hospital charity event.

    Does anybody know, off-hand, whether children who fall critically ill in Helensville are taken to North Shore Hospital or Waitakere?

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  59. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Tarquin North (189 comments) says:
    August 25th, 2014 at 8:05 am
    The fat german emperors clothes are looking a shade transparent. Never mind, he can borrow a frock off his only friend Penny.

    Meow – someone hasn’t had their saucer of milk this morning!

    I think you will find that KDC has many friends, and this latest event will not stop any of them from voting for him. In fact, for some they may be more inclined to because it was clear the media were hounding him, when the event was meant to be about something else.

    What most of you fail to understand is that those who will vote for KDC are not going to be worried about the things, those of you, that salivate over stories where KDC is denigrated were never likely to vote for him, and so therefore, none of this will make any difference to the election outcome.

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  60. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Well – it’s been fun Kiwibloggers – but I’ve got things to do and more trouble to make – so this will do for now.

    Have to get my nomination form into the Helensville Electoral Officer out in Albany.

    All good!

    Am SO looking forward to becoming the fiercely Independent MP for Helensville, and asking the stinking hard questions no body else does under Parliamentary ‘privilege’.

    You all have a lovely day :)

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  61. alloytoo (546 comments) says:

    @Penny

    You said “As usual – I take full personal responsibility for my actions.”

    Does that include settling damages incurred during your squatting on Aotea Square in 2011?

    Tell me Penny who appointed you public watch dog and who finances you?

    “Watching the Watchdog”

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  62. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Am SO looking forward to becoming the fiercely Independent MP for Helensville,

    Some mean bugger has swapped your tic tacs for hallucinating drugs, Penny. Your brain has been fried.

    Elaycee
    (Who puts his name on his rate payments).

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  63. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    Do you consider the following actions to be ‘dirty politics’, or ‘personal dirt’, or ‘nasty politics’:

    – accusing John Key of lacking any ethics or morals OPINON
    – stating that ACT stands for “Associated with Crooks and Thieves!” TRUTH? Satire
    – referring to John Banks as ‘dodgy’, the ‘Not-So-Honourable’ and stating he has all the class of a rat with a gold toothTRUTH & OPINION
    – displaying, on your website, a series of cartoons showing John Banks as a rat Satire
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Key as a pig satire
    – displaying, on your website, a cartoon showing John Banks as a pig wallowing in mud satire
    – accusing John Key of faking sincerity Opinion
    – defacing your political opponents’ billboards with your own signs, including one that calls John Banks the ‘best politician that money can buy’ Vandalism

    None of them are dirty or nasty. Vandalism is illegal. Satire has for more than a century been used to voice opinion in politics and is perfectly acceptable. The truth is something that some people don’t like, and an opinion is something that in a free country anyone is allowed to express – at least for now – I see many would like that to change.

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  64. graham (2,335 comments) says:

    Well, I’d say the lack of an answer from Penny speaks VOLUMES.

    I think we can all now clearly recognise that Penny does indeed engage in ‘dirty’ politics / ‘nasty’ politics / and dishing PERSONAL dirt. The multiple cases are now well documented, and Penny states that she “takes full personal responsibility” for them.

    So, people of Helensville, take note – should you be planning a fund-raising event, you should really think hard before inviting John Key to it, because it’s a fairly safe bet that your wannabe future MP will turn up to any fund-raising events, charity lunches, cake stalls, etc that you may be planning and loudly disrupt and ruin them. Just to make a point.

    Is this REALLY the sort of person you want as your future MP?

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  65. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ publicwatchdog (2,253 comments) says:
    August 25th, 2014 at 8:18 am

    Good luck Penny, and good on you for standing up for the things you believe in and at least trying.

    Most of us here are keyboard warriors – I doubt many of them would have the guts to pick up a phone and attempt to make a difference for their cause, let alone do what you are. :-)

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  66. mcardnas (84 comments) says:

    @ BOUGUSNEWS

    I can happily say I haven’t read dirty politics.

    There were many, many mistakes in that book, none of which the media were prepared to expose. Already in his latest book many errors and downright lies have been exposed.

    ooo your so equipped to have a valid opinion! NOT bogus is right ! your argument is totaly invalid

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  67. James Stephenson (2,191 comments) says:

    Dotcom has admitted to being “very unwise” for making the connection between his hacking history and not liking the current Prime Minister. He said he is on his “final final warning”.

    You can just tell that his ego is bursting to claim credit for the Hager hacks, I’m betting that the right pressure applied in the right way will see that ego-the-size-of-a-planet win the battle with any common sense hehas.

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  68. minus (201 comments) says:

    In addition to your 6 points of “motive” or ‘ability” DPF, surely there is the 7th –
    Cameron Slater’s boast of not just a Dotcom bombshell but more like B-52 carpet bombing – surely Dotcom or his agent hackers would want to find that if they could, and the question now is of course:
    Did they?

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  69. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Very interesting point minus.

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  70. trout (939 comments) says:

    Prepare to be amazed when Dotcom admits he was responsible for the hack attack on Whaleoil. It will happen because the man’s ego is so big he will want the credit. And also be prepared for the Left to rise up in defence of the hacking because it ‘was in the public interest’. The left are already gathering around in support of this odious individual- why? Because the train is leaving the station and they see him as their only hope of slowing up the momentum of team key. How could they consort with a fraudster whose interests do not extend beyond his own personal welfare? Because the end always justifies the means in left wing politics.

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  71. oldpark (338 comments) says:

    Dotcons confession, then denial by his sycophants, Dirty Harre and Spam Cockery , sounds like something I once heard from Bill Clinton”.I did not have sex with that woman”.

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  72. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    So if this hints that DC is the hacker of WO, does that make what WO has allegedly done ok by supporting deliberate misuse of the OIA, outing and attacking civil servants without evidence, gloating about hacking into the Labour site while being reminded by Aaron not to forget to give him ‘a nod and a wink’ legal? I’m not sure this is the right track for National to enter into, it doesn’t excuse the activities that have been exposed in ‘Dirty politics’ it simply gives weight (no offence to DC, well maybe a little – a few kilos) that such politics may be being employed by another party – hardly one cancelling out the other.

    I think that the ‘outrage’ overlooks the fact that you can’t pretend not to be outraged when your ‘man’ does it, but completely outraged when somebody allegedly has done the same. Also, let’s not forget that IM is targeting a particular part of the electorate, perhaps part that ‘sees’ the ‘ends as justifying the means’ or more simply ‘playing them at their own game.’ Really does either side achieve any credit – certainly the Nats don’t, what should be happening is the Nats sorting out the allegations so the public can see it rather than engaging in a ‘game’ that ultimately paints them in a similar colour as their opponents. Too much treading water and ‘hoping’ here. All the while questions deepen as to why JK doesn’t act, saying that it’s because of an election is used currency now – if only because the leaks and Court cases will continue into the future much like the sheer number of arrows ultimately brings down even the largest prey.

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  73. jcuk (693 comments) says:

    More pragmatic wisdom from Judith LOL :)

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  74. jcuk (693 comments) says:

    Oldpark … you missed the critical word out …intercourse.
    Monica did a blowjob I believe.

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  75. rouppe (971 comments) says:

    Liar-re Harre was on breakfast this morning. She tried to defend it all by:

    1) KDC didn’t want an interview and it was unreasonable for the press to chase him when he didn’t want to talk about the hacking statement, only about housing, poverty etc.

    TAKEAWAY: It should equally be true that if John Key doesn’t want to talk about Dirty Politics then that’s OK too

    2) KDC’s story about hacking is one he tells that includes how this turned into a $1million loan from that same goverment that allowed KDC to start his empire. The press are just taking the hacking allegations out of context and that’s not right

    TAKEAWAY: Taking things out of context is never OK.

    LEARNINGS:
    Lair-re Harre, Pam Squawkery and KDC are hypocrites and nothing that comes out of their mouths can be trusted to be the truth

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  76. Jaffa (94 comments) says:

    I don’t believe it!

    The Media are lying!

    Dot Com RUNNING???

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  77. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    And after being caught hacking the German credit rating site, what did Krim do?
    My guess is, he immediately denied it!
    Could be a pattern developing here!

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  78. Inthisdress (280 comments) says:

    People coming from KDC’s mansion.
    People writing books by hacking.
    People peddling positivity.
    People with deniability.
    All the fingers point to something
    rotten in the electioneering.
    when you ask which cap best fits,
    Ask yourelf ‘Who benefits?’
    A well-organised machine which is devoted
    To perverting the vote
    remains undetected.
    The people jumping at the bait
    to question is to hesitate,
    The smoking guns, the cynical ad-libs,
    All summed up with the phrase:
    “Vote Positive!”

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  79. redqueen (567 comments) says:

    @Penny Bright

    What I am scared of is paying any money in the direction of Nick Hager. Given that he has gone on the air trumpeting himself, that there has been non-stop madness about all of his ‘points’, and that people like DPF have felt it necessary to defend themselves against his nastiness, says enough for me. By comparison, spending my hard-earned shilling so that someone who thinks that theft is a good basis for a novel can profit is simply too much for me.

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  80. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “DotCom said Pam’s office was unwise. Pam is on her final final final warning. Pam did NOT insult journalists. She was talking to her ex.” LOL

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  81. tvb (4,430 comments) says:

    Corkery does not understand she is not the story. But by using her abusive language she placed herself at the centre of the story and overshadowed the launch of the I-MP campaign. She is not very bright. And KDC boasting how he hacked a German PM (Chancellor actually) and there is another PM he does not like. Then refuses questions on what that means. He did go on morning report and did answer questions. Denied everything of course.

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  82. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    My, Penny is all over this thread in defence of the criminal and his political puppets. Just remember Dotcom is a (temporary) guest in this country. A badly behaved at that. Some, like Penny, would have us believe that it is perfectly acceptable to have a badly behaving guest corrupt our democracy, just because that guest “doesn’t like John Key” and want’s to “change the government” – he’s never said why, but we all know it is to avoid extradition. Those that see this as acceptable and vote accordingly should hang their heads in complete shame.

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  83. minus (201 comments) says:

    graham, and
    – suggesting Minister of Justice Judith Collins is a ‘psychopath’

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  84. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    minus, WO always promises more. He is always off to police about the latest ‘death threats’ and ultimately nothing follows. He had ‘more’ on Brown but we never saw it. Anyway, I wonder if much ‘more’ is needed in terms of DC. Even WO speaking to apparently disgruntled employees has revealed little more than employment issues, in other cases bills not being paid – could be said par for the course, not forgetting that Tempero was adamant in his evidence he gave in respect of the Banks charges. I’d imagine there was pressure on him over that which may yet come out. DC is hardly seen as the perfect citizen now, but maybe it could get worse for him except that the public might becoming inured to the ‘latest’ on him. WO faces a 5 day prosecution from the Privacy Commission (via HR,) also an investigation for breaking a suppression order in which he now claims not to have known existed, by association with Collins all that sticks to National to some degree. On the later one thing for sure is the police are going to treat cautiously such ‘excuses’ with all the attention on these matters now.

    PG – the ‘unwise’ quote is clever.

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  85. Judith (8,534 comments) says:

    @ minus (151 comments) says:
    August 25th, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Has she every under gone diagnostic testing to confirm she isn’t? ;-)

    Psychopaths exist in great numbers in the community – not all are killers – the vast majority aren’t – chances are many ‘bosses’ are!

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  86. ChardonnayGuy (1,207 comments) says:

    Well, his Chancellor-hacking claims* aren’t exactly a secret- he originally made them in his biography-
    David Fisher: The Secret Life of Kim Dotcom: Spies, Lies and the War for the Internet: Auckland: Paul Little Books: 2013.

    *It seems to have been Germany’s first post-unification Chancellor, CDU’s Helmut Kohl.

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  87. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    @trout

    And also be prepared for the Left to rise up in defence of the hacking because it ‘was in the public interest’. The left are already gathering around in support of this odious individual- why?

    That’s already evident on Twitter, and Dotcom has strong ongoing support at Public Address:
    http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/didnt-see-that-coming/

    In fact Russell has just posted this comment:

    And the least inevitable thing ever: David Farrar has a post on Kiwiblog headed Dotcom boasts of hacking a PM and refuses comment.

    I don’t think Farrar seriously believes Dotcom is Whaledump. It’s just more wholly disingenuous misdirecting.

    Russel is being disingenuous focussing on Dotcom=Whaledump, he seems obsessed with that aspect. I don’t know who is seriously suggesting that.

    I wonder if Russell would state that he doesn’t think Dotcom has any connection to the hacking.

    And if he does that would he state he has no knowledge of who is involved in the hacking?

    Public Address seems to be actively supporting the hacking and Hager’s book, they attack you if you question their story lines to the extent of banning you. While claiming they have nothing to do with dirty politics.

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  88. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    There several issues under discussion here, but all are inter-linked, albeit some more than others.

    1. Dotcom (Dotslob) is a classic manipulator, in the best tradition of the very worst of German politicians.

    2. Dotslob has, by New Zealand standards, massive financial resources (on a par perhaps with those secured by totally legitimate means, by/of say, Bob Jones, but well short of the likes of Hart, Myers and the Todd family) – seemingly all obtained through criminal actions of various kinds, and degrees.

    3. He has bought himself the best legal team that “money can buy in New Zealand”.

    4. He has turned much of the MSM, politicians from several parties, and hard left political activists, into prostitutes – all of whom have been in quest of his illicitly gained largesse.

    5. When J Banks failed to do his bidding, he used him as an example, perjured himself, and fooled Wylie J. in the High Court.

    6. Kiwiblog’s David Farrar has been a critic of Dotslob, but has never (to my knowledge) crusaded against the mad German, preferring to restrict his comments to facts and the sort of observations that all reasonable folk are making.

    7. Cam Slater, on the other hand, has made it his business to pursue Dotslob, and has done so in the face of overly aggressive prostituted legal advocates, their services funded by money of questionable origin.

    8. Slater, and WOHB, having shown the MSM to be a bunch of cowardly shills in their protection of Brown, have also outed MSM reporters (writers, aka proxies) acting in concert with Dotslob.

    9. In so doing, Slater has made a massive, and deserved assault on the place of the MSM in NZ.

    10. The MSM hate Slater, with the sort of pathological loathing that the left has for any individual who makes good in the world of business – like J Key, J Banks, D Farrar :-)

    11. Someone with motive, know-how, and the required financial resources, bought shadowy folk, all skilled in the dark arts of computer hacking, burglary, and more (like Hager) .

    12. It is the confluence of those issues that sustains the MSM/Dotslob/left-wing-nutter attack on J Key, (silly) J Collins, National, and Slater

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  89. Gravelroad (155 comments) says:

    Risk management is obviously not a strong priority for the Internet Mana Party.

    It was always going to be a gamble employing the ill-disciplined Ms Corkery.
    At the start, this party came across as menacing and single issue (ie the personal preservation and advancement of Mr Dotcom).
    Now it comes across as unprofessional, lacking in any credibility – but still scary.

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  90. Nostalgia-NZ (5,220 comments) says:

    It must be something in the water, now revealed that Tama Iti will be standing for the MP.

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  91. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    Pete George (23,179 comments) says:

    August 25th, 2014 at 6:37 am

    “Her ‘tirade’ still helped Internet Mana get headline news – so at election time how is this a bad thing?

    Similar lines have been spreading around, including that it was typical of deliberate attention seeking of Corkery. While that’s possible why would she deliberately want to highlight that particular issue?

    That wouldn’t seem to be very smart. Surely it would be one of the last things Corkery would want to attract media attention to.

    It could have been a slip by Dotcom. And it could have been over-reaction from Corkery because it is closer to home than Dotcom has usually admitted.”

    It’s all designed to twist his enemies into angry knots.

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  92. WineOh (630 comments) says:

    @ Nostalgia – regarding Tama Iti, I see this as being a move of desperation by the Maori Party to retain relevance to the fundamentalist base.

    I thought Parliamentary rules prohibited candidates with criminal convictions that resulted in incarceration though? Didn’t he serve time as a result of the Urewera raids?

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  93. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Thank God Penny is here to tell us it’s different when the left do it.

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  94. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    I don’t normally watch the TV news, but my wife yelled out to come and see it and I have to say it was rather funny.

    So that’s the left’s last great hope, a self-confessed criminal foreigner who has bought a political party in an attempt to stop himself being extradited.

    There’s been a lot of justification bandied around for hacking private emails because it exposes dirty politics by the right. The ends justify the means apparently, and we’re not to question the ethics of the left because Cameron Slater so shut up.

    And so it is that I’ve decided not to be upset if Winston First becomes part of a coalition government with National. The ends justify the means, and it would be much better for NZ than the other option.

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  95. Gulag1917 (929 comments) says:

    NZ needs to make its immigration criteria tougher.

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  96. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    This is the same Dotcom who a few days ago was slagging off WhaleOil because Labour had confidential information in plain view on their website. Slater was denigrated for “hacking” Labour when he didn’t do anything you couldn’t do with a browser and an internet connection. Dotcom with a conviction for hacking brags about how he hacked a PM – But Slater is the evil one.

    I know, it’s different when the rich, famous, self serving left do it.

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  97. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “Whaledump @whaledump · Aug 22

    In Vanuatu. Don’t have any important briefings while I’m gone.”

    Vanuatu? I don’t get it!

    September 21, ‘Well Laila, we knocked the bastard off.’

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  98. Rich Prick (1,705 comments) says:

    How strange, both the Herald and Stuff have purged this story from their websites this morning. Are they also owned by Dotcom?

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  99. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    WO always promises more. He had ‘more’ on Brown but we never saw it.

    Yes, he did
    He just didn’t publish it because there was no political angle but Hager went ahead and published it anyway.

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  100. gump (1,650 comments) says:

    @WineOh

    Only people who are currently in prison can’t vote in elections or stand for Parliament.

    People who have been released from prison can do either (unless they’ve been barred for engaging in corrupt electoral practises).

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  101. Chris2 (766 comments) says:

    Penny Bright (comment No 1) – you refusing to pay your Council rates is also an OLD story, but it wont go away until you pay them.

    You criticise National politicans for being unfit for office, but you are running for elected office at the same time that you refuse to pay your Council rates. Really, who is the one unfit for elected office?

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  102. emmess (1,428 comments) says:

    This is the same Dotcom who a few days ago was slagging off WhaleOil because Labour had confidential information in plain view on their website.

    That’s right all leftards who don’t have a clue about what hacking is and those that are blatantly lying should be forced to watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnOAeVaU5xM#t=534

    and then repeat their ridiculous claims

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  103. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    Squeal like a little pig, boy! :-)

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  104. Richard (859 comments) says:

    The worm turns…

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  105. RRM (9,933 comments) says:

    Pam Corkery is involved?

    Wow, Kim’s really assembled a quality team for this! :-)

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  106. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    RRM

    Dotcom seems to have only 2 criteria for his staff – they must screech and must hate John Key.

    Judith – Perhaps you should send DPF an email so Dotcom can find a way to contact you ?

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  107. Tarquin North (305 comments) says:

    For once Judith, you are actually right. Yes DotCom does have friends. ” All the friends that money can buy so he never has to be alone. And he keeps getting richer but he still can’t get his picture off the cover of the U.S warrant. (my apologies to Doctor Hook!) Does anyone need friends like Mad Pam?

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  108. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    What I can’t understand is how Dotcom’s party has attracted only hard left wing types – and these state run monopoly = good types want to control the internet … and people aren’t making the connection that these people have an ideology of control and command while saying they stand for freedom.

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  109. wf (447 comments) says:

    Heard a rumour that DCom has enlisted Penny – paid her rates, maybe?

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  110. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    @ Penny Bright, thief.

    “I prefer to base my considered opinion on FACTS and EVIDENCE, as has Nicky Hager in his best-selling book ‘Dirty Politics’.”

    Bullshit Penny Bright, you prefer to base your unconsidered accusations on innuendo and illegally gained and edited material that suits your agenda.

    The FACTS are that Hager’s book is a fraud. He has written a left wing fairy tale based on partial emails, and other material likely obtained by ilegal hacking and the burglary of peoples private homes, which as David Farrar has proven are taken out of context, deliberately so, and presented in a way that is dishonest and misleading.

    Now it is no surprise that a corrupt criminal like yourself, who steals rates money from councils and gets a free ride from other rate payers, is defending criminal and unethical behavior.

    Krim DotCon is a thief. He has paid for a smear campaign and has done so by illegal means. This suits your agenda, which has nothing to do with facts.

    There are two possibilities. You are in on this whole affair, and thus a willing participant in crime and corruption, or you really are so gullible and easily led that that your the foolish pawn of a uber-rich wealthy German.

    Either way, it is you Penny Bright, you, Hager, and Dotcon, who are the real source of political corruption in New Zealand.

    Now this has blown up in your faces, you and all the useful idiots posting above. The media is now focusing on Dotcon’s crimes and attempts to buy an election. Hager’s dishonest conspiracy theory has fizzled. Now the boot is on the other foot, which is why Pam Corkery is screeching abuse at people. Her sugar daddy has been exposed and while he may try to hide, he cannot do so for long.

    Internet-Mana is imploding, and the Left’s dirty politics has backfired.

    More popcorn please!!!!! :) :) :)

    Shawn Lee Herles.

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  111. Richard (859 comments) says:

    I wonder if Pammy has fallen off the wagon?? There wasn’t the clink of an empty bottle or two while she was screeching and swearing at the media? I do hope not. She would be a sad causality of Kim Schmitz (a.k.a Kimble, a.k.a Kim Tim Jim Vestor-I’m not joking!) attempt to stay in New Zealand.

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  112. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    @ Judith

    “Good luck Penny, and good on you for standing up for the things you believe in and at least trying.”

    Crime. Stealing from rate payers and the council. Attending Jew hating racist marches. Promoting and defending a book based on criminally obtained and edited material. Nothing to be proud of.

    “Most of us here are keyboard warriors – I doubt many of them would have the guts to pick up a phone and attempt to make a difference for their cause, let alone do what you are.”

    Speak for yourself Judith. I have picked up phones and taken real action on a variety of issues I believe in.

    Just because your a lazy, do nothing fraud, does not mean the rest of us are.

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  113. DJP6-25 (1,388 comments) says:

    flipper 9:07 am. Excellent summary.

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  114. Unity (588 comments) says:

    Nothing would surprise me with regard to that oversized creep!! I’m hopeful he will be extradited from this country sooner rather than later. What a huge mistake letting him in in the first place. Money obviously speaks. They might be more careful next time.

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  115. ShawnLH (5,285 comments) says:

    Criminal Penny Bright opines: “Well – it’s been fun Kiwibloggers – but I’ve got things to do and more trouble to make – so this will do for now.”

    Translation: “You have exposed my double standards and my support for political corruption and crime, and asked me hard questions I have no credible answers to, so I am now running away like a dishonest coward.”

    There, fixed it for you Penny. :)

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  116. Inthisdress (280 comments) says:

    I also think it’s time to discuss the double standards of a party bank-rolled by ‘self-confessed hacker’ KDC coming out to discuss poverty. What was that salary experctation again for aspiring MP’s on the KDC gravy-train?

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  117. burt (8,275 comments) says:

    Inthisdress

    Poverty to KDC is trying to live on about $50,000/Month. This make him perfectly qualified to hate John Key understand the plight of low paid NZ people.

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  118. Than (475 comments) says:

    What most of you fail to understand is that those who will vote for KDC are not going to be worried about the things, those of you, that salivate over stories where KDC is denigrated were never likely to vote for him, and so therefore, none of this will make any difference to the election outcome.

    These sorts of stories won’t matter to potential Internet-Mana voters, true. But it could still make a big difference to the election outcome because it does matter to middle-ground voters.

    On current polling Labour will almost certainly need Internet-Mana support to form a government. That is a simple fact. But it’s a fact Labour deperately doesn’t want voters to think about because they know how scared middle-ground voters are of Internet-Mana. A significant number of wavering centerist voters could decide not to vote for Labour because they know it would mean Internet-Mana in government. The more Internet-Mana is in the headlines (especially for this sort of aggressive, abusive behaviour) the greater this risk becomes.

    Internet-Mana are National’s best weapon this election. National’s last TV ad before polling day should just be the “f**k John Key” clip, followed by the question “Do You Want Them in Government?”

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  119. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Ok Kiwibloggers!

    I’m back – with my news.

    All good!

    It’s official and you heard it here first.

    My nomination as an Independent candidate for Helensville has been processed.

    So – the first step in taking John Key’s Helensville seat off him has been completed.

    You have to be in to win!

    Done / dusted.

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  120. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Good luck against those windmills Penny. You go girl! :)

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  121. Nookin (3,354 comments) says:

    Where is your authorisation statement?

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  122. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Comments on blogs don’t require authorisation. Nookin.

    Don’t you purport to be a ‘lawyer’?

    Keep up!

    (Meant of course in a caring way :)

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  123. Nookin (3,354 comments) says:

    Comments are not advertisements anything going beyond that is covered. The way I see it, you have been in defiance of the Act ever since I last raised this issue with you.

    “In this Act, election advertisement—
    (a) means an advertisement in any medium that may reasonably be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the following:
    (i) to vote, or not to vote, for a type of candidate described or indicated by reference to views or positions that are, or are not, held or taken (whether or not the name of the candidate is stated):
    (ii) to vote, or not to vote, for a type of party described or indicated by reference to views or positions that are, or are not, held or taken (whether or not the name of the party is stated); and
    includes—
    (i) a candidate advertisement; and
    (ii) a party advertisement.

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  124. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    Penny Bright
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    adze (1,961 comments) says:

    August 25th, 2014 at 4:31 pm

    Good luck against those windmills Penny. You go girl! :)
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    Nookin (3,169 comments) says:

    August 25th, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    Where is your authorisation statement?

    ****
    Excellent observation Nookin.
    Every statement by penny … Oh dear.
    A complaint to the Electoral Commission is in order. No?

    But more to the point, pennyfoolish, you could have reduced your rates bill by the amount of the nomination fee. And think of all the other savings that could have been used to good purpose….
    Still, that is what dumbos do… pennyfoolish :-)

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  125. holysheet (397 comments) says:

    Is this the same pam Corkery who said in her maiden( old hag more like it) speech in Parliament that she hated sleeping on the wet patch in bed?
    HER FERAL CLASS HASN’T CHANGED MUCH OVER THE YEARS

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  126. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Penny, did you have a campaign strategy other than commenting on KB?

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  127. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Fill your boots Nookin.

    Complain away.

    But beware!

    You may lose your anonymity?

    Also – it must prove some of you lot are genuinely frightened about my electorate chances in Helensville – or why would you bother?

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  128. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Of course I have a campaign strategy you silly billies :)

    So far – so good :)

    But why on earth are you worried?

    Polls in Helensville proving that John Key isn’t quite as popular as his spin doctors would have you believe?

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  129. Nookin (3,354 comments) says:

    Penny, I don’t give a stuff if you breach the Act and I have more to do with my time that toddle off to the EC. I am simply pointing out your statutory obligation and the fact that while you hold others to account, you regard your own compliance as optional – a bit like your attitude to rates.

    It speaks volumes that your response is arrogant, dismissive and provocative. Most reasonable and rationale candidates would regard the issue as worthy of discussion at least.

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  130. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    “But why on earth are you worried?”

    I was worried the laughs might dry up. Clearly unnecessarily. Carry on.

    Oops, nearly forgot the smiley :)

    Kind Regards

    RightNow

    Candidate for a beer

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  131. adze (2,126 comments) says:

    Penny I like your campaign poster :) Rather fetching I must say!

    http://i.imgur.com/CeYVTVn.png

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  132. goldnkiwi (1,310 comments) says:

    Nookin (3,171 comments) says:

    August 25th, 2014 at 4:47 pm

    Persuaded not to vote I reckon.

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  133. box345 (50 comments) says:

    As regards Tame Iti being nominated by the Maori Party:

    The seat of any member of Parliament shall become vacant—

    (d) if he or she is convicted of an offence punishable by 2 or more years imprisonment:

    .. and Iti was convicted of such an offence.

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  134. KevinH (1,229 comments) says:

    Germany is a Federal Parliamentary Republic, legislative power is vested in the Bundestag( (parliament of Germany) and the Bundesrat ( the representative body of the Lander, Germanys regional states).
    Germany does not have a Prime Minister per se, but has a Chancellor as their head of state( more like a president). In 1995 the Chancellor was Helmut Kohl representing the CDU (Christian Democratic Union).
    Presumably Helmut Kohl was the target of Dotcoms attention.

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  135. goldnkiwi (1,310 comments) says:

    Not a member of Parliament at time of the offence or punishment, no seat to be vacated. Anyone that votes for Tame Iti will be aware of his ‘provenance’.

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  136. KevinH (1,229 comments) says:

    In the 2011 election John Key received 74.38% of the vote in the Helensville electorate, up 2.08% on his 2008 result which was 73.61% of the vote. That leaves approximately 25% of the vote for the other parties to compete for. The National Party under John Key enjoys an unassailable majority in the Helensville electorate, no other polls indicate otherwise.

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  137. Inthisdress (280 comments) says:

    Well, you’d think that it would be a difficult job to dislodge John Key from such primacy. I was wondering, during the precious and limited time available to win votes how candidates find time to door-knock, campaign, persuade, cajole and generally engage with the wider public?
    Does an aspiring politician use every moment available shaking hands, kissing babies, debating, giving interviews, formulating cutting-edge innovative policy initiatives, you know, to show their relavance?
    Or, like Penny Bright, do they sit alone for considerable segments of the day, in a room posting snippy comments to the very demographic which is least likely to vote for them?

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  138. Nookin (3,354 comments) says:

    Not surprising that dotcom is hosting this on his web site. It seems entirely consistent with his world view of politics and self preservation. Bet msm pull the story as soon as he whistles.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10422676/Song-threatens-to-kill-Key

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  139. Pete George (23,591 comments) says:

    Where is Dotcom hosting it? His music site?

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  140. publicwatchdog (2,613 comments) says:

    Good moaning Kiwibloggers!

    Off to the wilds of Helensville today – advertising my upcoming Public Meeting to be held in the Helensville War Memorial Hall this Saturday 30 August 2014 from 2pm – 5pm.

    ‘How to stop corruption and dirty politics’!

    I’ll be hosting the meeting and giving politically explosive evidence of corruption at the highest levels of local (‘Supercity’) and central government, as will fellow anti- corruption ‘whistle-blower’ and Independent candidate for Epsom, Grace Haden.

    To ‘lead by example’ – invitations have been sent to all political parties who were represented at the Helensville candidates meeting which was held at the Kumeu Baptist Church on Monday 11 August.

    Each representative from those political parties who choose to attend will be given 5 minutes to explain their policies on how to stop ‘white collar” crime, corruption, ‘corporate welfare’ and ‘dirty politics’.

    Representatives from all political parties who choose to attend are welcome to bring along their election advertising material.

    The only ‘rule’ will be that of basic fair play – those speaking (either representatives or questioners) need to be able to be heard, and personal abuse is not ok.

    It should be QUITE a meeting!

    I do hope Prime Minister John Key, the current MP for Helensville will be able to attend and take advantage of this opportunity to tell his constituents how he’s going to help clean up the ‘dirty politics’ which have developed on his watch.

    It should be a FUN meeting!

    Hope to see lots of Kiwibloggers there – not that Ill be able to put many faces to many names :(

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  141. flipper (4,083 comments) says:

    Where is your authorisation statement pennyfoolish??? Dumbo.
    What U have posted is an advertorial, not a comment.
    Good luck at the EC

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  142. Inthisdress (280 comments) says:

    Like I said:

    “Or, like Penny Bright, do they sit alone for considerable segments of the day, in a room posting snippy comments to the very demographic which is least likely to vote for them?”

    Following how flipper commented – should Penny Brights ‘electioneering’ on KB be referred to the EC or does ‘publicwatchdog’ now constitute authorisation?

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  143. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Jesus wept…… Why do some morons resort to the use of bold font to try and make their point?

    Do they lack the basic computer skills to write a comment in regular font?
    Do they think their view is somehow, important?
    Are they plain ignorant?
    All of the above?

    Pathetic.

    Scroll, scroll, scroll.

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  144. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Jesus wept…… Why do some morons resort to the use of bold font to try and make their point?

    Do they lack the basic computer skills to write a comment in regular font?
    Do they think their view is somehow, important?
    Are they plain ignorant?
    All of the above?

    Pathetic.

    Scroll. Scroll. Scroll.

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  145. Elaycee (4,393 comments) says:

    Jesus wept…… Why do some morons resort to the use of bold font to try and make their point?

    Do they lack the basic computer skills to write a comment in regular font?
    Do they think their view is somehow, important?
    Are they plain ignorant?
    All of the above?

    Pathetic.

    Scroll. Scroll. Scroll….

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  146. anticorruptionnz (215 comments) says:

    Came into this late – love the poster .

    While I support Penny we do agree to disagree on things. I am not her No 2 nor is she my No 2 . I am not standing because she is I have a history of standing which goes back to the local body elections when I first met Penny 10 years ago .

    We are two people who agree on the corruption issues and have had our own very different journeys and compare notes .

    You have to remember that evil prevails when good men ( and women, do nothing. )

    Penny and I have done heaps , that is why we are activists.. the clue is in the word Active.

    I have had my petition for a commission against corruption presented in parliament , I have exposed corruption at great cost to myself. If only half the hot air on this blog was to be converted to activity then New Zealand would be a much better place. Its actions in the end which speak volumes words often go nowhere.

    I personally am not campaigning against Key I am campaigning against corruption. I for one would like a government which has ethics values and moral fiber. A country where you can say, excuse me but isn’t that corrupt and not have your backside sued off .

    we need Courts of law which adhere to the law, where evidence is heard and is considered , where judges declare their conflicts of interest and recluse themselves.

    We need to have systems in place which will protect us all . e.g we need to have integrity in our companies register. Have lawyers held accountable to the rule of law, Punish perjury in court and not use the court as a means of beating people up and asset stripping them. The legal process is being abused wholesale- works for lawyers makes them rich $$$$$$

    My three step prevention plan

    1 Question every thing
    2. Assume nothing
    3. seek the truth.

    this should apply to the courts, law society, company registration in short everything.. and those who deceive and abuse the processes should be held accountable to the full extent of the law ( applied lawfully and ethically )

    Grace Haden Independent candidate for Epsom

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  147. jackinabox (776 comments) says:

    “Punish perjury in court and not use the court as a means of beating people up and asset stripping them.”

    Dirty bastards, some of them, I hate the bastards!

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