General Debate 24 August 2014

August 24th, 2014 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11313415

    ‘Shocked’ writer Russell Blackstock has clearly never seen any ‘Hip Hop’ videos…

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  2. hj (6,797 comments) says:

    The housing problem isn’t a housing problem; it’s a regional development problem

    I have noted with growing despair the xenophobia which is becoming a political commonplace this election cycle. On the left it’s about house prices.* But this post is not about racism; it’s about development.

    Houses cheaper in regions

    The chart above shows income and employment growth by region, and this is why the houses are so cheap. The growth is just not there. (From the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment Regional Economic Activity Report 2013).

    As Eric Crampton said about the census income growth figures, increases in average wages across much of the South Island have been coupled with decreases in population, as people on low incomes move in search of better-paying work.

    The Solution

    Diversification and specialisation
    The object of a regional development policy must be to promote structural change, to create industries and communities that are sustainable in their own right — neither transient nor exhaustible, and which attract people whose commitment is likewise neither transient nor exhaustible. These jobs need to go beyond the traditional churn industries like tourism, hospitality and service; though, of course, these jobs will be needed, they should be incidental to development, not its purpose. They need to be high-value and export-led — unlike, for example, our timber industry, and our wool industry. One of our key advantages here is our reputation for being clean and green — demand for premium food, the safety and quality of which can be assured, and including organic and sustainably-produced, is likely to grow strongly and we seem ill-prepared to meet this opportunity, as just one example. Another example is the potential of Māori business, which is as yet terribly underutilised.

    tagsTags: Auckland, Dunedin, Eric Crampton, Greens, Immigration, jolisa gracewood, Labour, MBIE, National, Polity, regional development, Stuart Nash, Wellington

    So Sir Paul Callaghan type enterprises at Taihape and Whathavu (Dunsandel)
    http://www.kiwipolitico.com/2014/05/the-housing-problem-isnt-a-housing-problem-its-a-regional-development-problem
    Shamabell Equab and Professor Paul Spoonley are flogging the same horse (take “engineers” from China, India and Bangladesh root them in the regions and see the regions take off). Anything but consider that, maybe, NZ is developed to a reasonable potential and skills and entrepreneurialship aren’t the issue.

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  3. duggledog (1,491 comments) says:

    Interesting article on Russell Norman in the paper. He explains how some of his views on how the evil nasty capitalistic world works are inherited from his father who seems to have had a hard row to hoe.

    You also learn that Rusty has 5 older siblings and his dad was not highly skilled.

    Bless.

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  4. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Duggledog- Haven’t seen it. Has he got his “Fwag” back yet??

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  5. kowtow (8,131 comments) says:

    Says it all ; Hitler admired by hate filled Muslim immigrants on the streets of the city he sought to bomb into submission.Protests by Muslim fascists outside the mother of parliaments.Freedom for haters but not for those standing up for the only democracy in the Middle East.

    How low Britain has been brought by progressive multiculturalism and fear of giving offence to those who must be appeased.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/23/Anti-Israel-Protests-Number-10-Aug-23

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  6. Pete George (23,421 comments) says:

    Most people (probably including most in National) won’t be lamenting the exposure of the dirtiness of Whale Oil, but there are wider implications about the hacking.

    NZ Herald imply there could be multiple hackers or at least multiple anonymous people with political agendas who have copies of the data.

    The Herald is outing people who have communicated with Whale Oil. How would people feel if their political communications and their identity were outed?

    How would journalists feel if they were hacked and their sources were outed? If it happened to Slater it could happen to other bloggers or newspapers.

    And why is the use of illegally hacked data ok but legally obtained surveillance data obtained by the police, SIS or GCSB so bad?

    Multiple hackers
    Hacked data good, spied data bad

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  7. IGM (216 comments) says:

    The filthy left have stooped to their gutless level by setting fire to a candidate’s trailer outside his home. This is the sort of scum represented by Bright on this post daily . . . no wonder she aligns with McCready . . . just envious losers.

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  8. duggledog (1,491 comments) says:

    Longknives –

    ‘A top Auckland private school has investigated allegations of racist remarks including the word n***** made by a student during a football match last weekend.’

    The alleger will no doubt be Willie Jackson, or at least aided, abetted and encouraged by Willie, whose son (paradoxically) goes to the exclusive, expensive, Kings College.

    You can put the house on it.

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  9. MT_Tinman (3,092 comments) says:

    A school complaint.

    The “N” word?

    National?

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  10. hj (6,797 comments) says:

    Bob Fairlane
    February 13, 2010 at 02:37
    You “multiculturalists” only want “multiculturalism” in WHITE COUNTRIES. You don’t suggest to Zaire or Haiti that they need more White people, or demand that Japan hire more white cops in proportion to the amount of whites that live there. You wouldn’t dare tell the Mexicans that if they don’t hire White factory workers even illegal aliens, that its a “human rights violation.”
    Reply

    Maria
    October 15, 2010 at 18:30
    Bob Fairlane is correct. “Diversity” is only considered enriching for Western countries. Other countries are allowed to preserve their cultures, languages, and ethnic majorities, and no one calls them “racist” for doing so. It’s hard not to see some kind of deliberate pattern here.
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    Will
    December 3, 2010 at 07:48
    I wasn’t going to comment but the two dimwitted commentaries above forced my hand in a sense. To answer both of your questions: the reason “multiculturalism,” as you call it, is a more prominent idea in the West is simply because it was Western cultures that generally exploited others in recent history. In case you don’t know, the US, Australia, South Africa, and so on, weren’t originally white. It was the whites who invaded, oppressed and wreaked havoc on the native population and culture. Multiculturalism, whatever you think of it, is nothing more than late, rather futile attempt to redress those mistakes.

    http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/diversityandtrust
    There were quite a few people in the Greens who thought like that. Green MP Delahunty:

    It is not rocket science that Pakeha may be a minority by the late 21st century. It is to be hoped that tangata whenua will be the largest cultural grouping in their own country again. However all the demographic changes will be a change for the worst if Pakeha cannot come to terms with being a minority culture. Our attachment to Westminster democracy has been based on our majority status. Will we find to our horror that minorities in such a system are overruled and undermined? Will we react by supporting more truly equitable and culturally diverse methods of decisionmaking, based upon Te Tiriti, or will we build a fortress, clinging to wealth and power behind barbed wire and guard dogs?

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0702/S00068.htm

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  11. Pete George (23,421 comments) says:

    This is the sort of scum represented by Bright on this post daily

    That’s very unfair. There’s no evidence who lit the fire is there? And certainly no evidence Penny Bright is in any way connected.

    If it’s a politically motivated attack it’s deplorable.

    But there’s no more evidence to link Penny to it than there is to prove it’s an attention seeking selfie. Taylor has been a controversial candidate but no one deserves this sort of political intimidation.

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  12. IGM (216 comments) says:

    Who gives a stuff about the “N” word, if it is depictive use it!

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  13. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

    Desperate stuff anonymous GUTLESS ‘IGM’.

    Keep going …..

    Penny Bright

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  14. IGM (216 comments) says:

    “Public Dog”: We are upset, what a shame, time you confront reality and truth, something that eludes you.

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  15. mjw (386 comments) says:

    The National party website was also exposed. But the person who found that thought the right thing to do was let them know, and let them fix it. What a contrast.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11313017

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  16. kowtow (8,131 comments) says:

    “If it’s a politically motivated attack it’s deplorable.”

    Why is it any more deplorable if its political? Why is the ‘N” word so much worse than any other rude remark?Why are some offences more offensive than others?

    Just more progressivism seeking to smear and batter us into submission to the agenda.

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  17. flipper (3,928 comments) says:

    heh folks….

    And a very nice night it was last night, even of all the action was in Auckland.

    But, back to the present. JK et al will be in Manukau this afternoon to launch Nats’ campaign.

    Anyone care to guess what will happen at:

    1. Pravda

    2. Red radio

    3. TVdann

    4. TVcower

    5. DomPost’s Labour/red melon branch

    6. Dotslob’s party party party

    7. Whaledump ?????????????????

    Of course it will not matter what J Key says or does this afternoon – unless he dons ISIS garb and be-heads J Collins.
    There will be some tiddly-arse “breaking news” item [EDIT - Now that pennryrates has awoken from a drug-induced reverie, the rates will have been paid???] that will seek to divert voters from issues that matter.

    Anyone care to bet against that??

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  18. hj (6,797 comments) says:

    Where Is The ‘Green” In Canada’s Green Party?
    http://www.immigrationwatchcanada.org/2009/05/08/where-is-the-green-in-canadas-green-party-where-is-the-green-in-any-federal-party/

    Immigration and new Canadians

    Canada is a multicultural society with a strong history of welcoming immigrants and celebrating cultural diversity. Canada currently accepts about 300,000 new immigrants annually.

    https://www.greenparty.ca/node/13368

    Where’s the green in the NZ Green Party?

    Let me say clearly now: the housing crisis is not the fault of recent migrants; the unemployment rate is not the fault of recent migrants; and asylum seekers are not a threat to us.

    http://blog.greens.org.nz/2014/06/03/immigration-the-green-party-perspective/

    On balance, the available evidence suggests that migration, in conjunction with sluggish supply of new housing and associated land use restrictions, may
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    have had a significant effect on house prices in New Zealand.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publications/research-policy/wp/2014/14-10

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  19. thedavincimode (6,606 comments) says:

    A gloomy morning at Maison bruv. In bed with the curtains pulled until about mid-afternoon I reckon.

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  20. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

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  21. Tauhei Notts (1,677 comments) says:

    It’s General Debate so I can have my little rant.
    It is about the greed of banks.
    Two weeks ago I put an AUD16,000 cheque in my NZ cheque account.
    The next day I was watching Bonnie & Clyde, a movie about bank robbers. Somehow I wondered how much did the banks charge on the previous day’s transaction. I sought out movements in the AUD NZD crossrate the previous day. It fluctuated between 9122 and 9132. I took the WORST rate, that is 9132 and converted the AUD16,000 at that rate. The difference between that WORST rate and what the bank credited me with was NZD397.35. Bloody near 2.5% margin.
    My point is that the greed of the banks is as relentless as the mindless drivel served up on the Hager stuff by the main stream media.
    Once upon a time robbers burst into banks; guns blazing. Nowadays the robbers sit behind the counter at the bank.

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  22. SGA (982 comments) says:

    @Tauhei Notts
    “The lawyer with the briefcase can steal more money than the man with the gun.”
    ― Mario Puzo, The Godfather
    :-)

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  23. Reid (16,179 comments) says:

    connected with the politically exposed and discredited Cameron Slater (WhaleOil) or Cathy Odgers (Cactus Cate)

    Penny I think the only people who hallucinate Cam or Cathy or Key or anyone else subject to this desperate smear campaign have been “discredited” fall into one or more of three categories:

    (a) people like you who have always hallucinated that conservatives are evil
    (b) the media
    (c) people like Pete George who seems to hallucinate, period and who wouldn’t know real political analysis even if it reared up like one of those corpses on The Mummy Returns and tried to eat his brains.

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  24. thedavincimode (6,606 comments) says:

    Oh do fuck off demented water woman. And stop bludging off your fellow ratepayers.

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  25. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    Quote from John Key on Frontpage

    “Mr Lusk might have a view if that’s what the papers show, and I haven’t read them but he may have a view that we’re not right wing enough. That’s actually the view of some other National Party members as well, but I am a centre right leader. I’ve demonstrated it in the nearly five years I’ve been Prime Minister, the way I want to lead the country. And if that’s not right wing enough for Simon Lusk well so be it, but it ain’t gonna change.”

    Key claims to be “centre right”…

    Except he’s happy to continue doing what he once called himself “communism by stealth”.

    Leading NZ’s highest taxing govt ever, and NZ’s biggest govt ever, and taking around $80 billion from the population in taxes, this smug self satisfied leftist considers himself “centre right”???

    What a joke. The group that propelled John Key to the leadership of the Nats are left wing progressives whose objective has always been to cut the heart out of the National Party and make it a de facto Labour party.

    The support for John Key parallels the support for Obama in the US. A smile and a wave keeps the people happy while the country falls deeper and deeper into the left wing sewer.

    Labour are bad sure, but people who so fervently support John Key need their heads looked at. He’s not the answer to leftist destruction of this country.

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  26. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts
    Eventually I see Bitcoin offering a far superior alternative for international money transfers. I agree the Banks are usurious when it comes to that.

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  27. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts

    Don’t use banks to do international transfers. You do that and get ripped off its your own fault. There are plenty of other services who will do it for a fraction of the rate your bank will.

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  28. Dennis Horne (2,310 comments) says:

    Redbaiter. Maybe there is no answer, not everything has an answer. (Thinking it does is “answerism”.)

    Redbaiter, if democracy is the answer what is the question?

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  29. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

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  30. Nookin (3,257 comments) says:

    OMG. Another scandal. A “new” donation to National from Liu. And, it has been “uncovered”!

    Are the Nats still at it — receiving dosh from the troubled Mr Liu and covering it up? Surely not?

    Nah. It’s not new. It’s three years old. And, it wasn’t “covered”. It was declared — accurately and according to the rules. But let’s not let the truth get in the way of scandal and innuendo, shall we?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10416871/New-Donghua-Liu-donation-uncovered

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  31. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    Got the same Wall Street ethics / ‘moral compass’ of Prime Minister John Key – have you ‘IGM’?

    Penny Bright

    (Who at least puts her name to her posts)

    Yes you put your name to your posts sure but the allegations you make against John Key are just the lowest of cowardly smears. You have no evidence of criminality or dishonesty by Key. Fuck off and come back when you do have you coward.

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  32. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Watching Q+A – Corin Dann is on the commentary panel! I wonder when he’ll announce his candidacy for the Labour Party? :)

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  33. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Pete
    Cameron Slater is back soon. What’s the bet he starts releasing some of the emails from those on the left?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TPT3RFTpSUw

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  34. Other_Andy (2,560 comments) says:

    @Nookin

    You would almost think there was a conspiracy of the ‘old media’ trying to influence the elections.

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  35. Nookin (3,257 comments) says:

    “Got the same Wall Street ethics / ‘moral compass’ of Prime Minister John Key – have you ‘IGM’?”

    Yet another example of pitbull Penny demonstrating that she abhors and will not engage in dirty politics in line with her promise on 22 August (GD @ 11.42). Of course, we know she doesn’t mean it. She broke her promise about an hour later.

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  36. Pete George (23,421 comments) says:

    All_on_Red – he hasn’t gone away and no doubt he will continue attacking and outing people he opposes. But his credibility has been severely dented and he will be seen as toxic by many in National.

    And the MSM will be viewing him in a very different light and will feed his agendas with much greater care – if at all.

    He’s still there but is damaged goods.

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  37. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    Creepy interview with a lawyer called Andrew Geddes on National Radio just now. When talking about blogs he repeatedly said, “If you allow…”
    Of course the alternative to this is banning blogs – or at least the blogs Andrew Geddes doesn’t like. Dear me.
    Then he said a crime was committed stealing the emails but it would be a waste of a crime if the proceeds weren’t made available to the public! So it’s okay to go and sell that iPad at the pub because once you’ve stolen it it’s a pity to let to go to waste!
    The Lord help us. The polemic of our academics is always disturbing especially when they rely on their title of professor to give them credibility – and the suggestion of objectiveness.
    I just hope all the bloggers continue their merry way, and continue to be as offensive as they choose, without the heavy, censoring hand of the Geddes of this world.
    And let us, grown ups as we are, draw our own conclusions.

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  39. Elaycee (4,350 comments) says:

    Got the same… ethics / ‘moral compass’ …

    Oh, the irony.

    Elaycee
    (Who at least puts his name to his rates payments)

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  40. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    I don’t know who you are Penny but you can’t possibly be as silly as you sound.

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  41. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    Here’s a link to the story mentioned at 8:08am above: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10417492/Arson-motive-believed-political . It won’t surprise anyone that the hoardings and trailer targeted were not those from the left of the political spectrum.

    But whichever party is attacked (or culprit involved), this dangerous level of lawlessness – no doubt for narrow political ends – must be deterred, and promptly. It’s a crude, cowardly attack on democracy itself when a candidate’s property is subjected to arson, within the near vicinity of his home where he, his wife and his young children are sleeping.

    Ultimately politics needs to be a contest of ideas, principles and their expression to the voting public, not an exercise for criminal thugs to intimidate or threaten law-abiding people in our communities.

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  43. flipper (3,928 comments) says:

    Are we surprised???

    Lying Mike “Fat Tony” Williams (Labour’s previous version of Hager) trying (on Q+A) yet again to re-write the record over his failed ” JK – H-bomb” scandal.

    Apart from DPF, all typical beltway types who would not have a clue how the great unwashed think, And it is very, very clear that they do not give a shit about political games that have been played since politics began. Before Rome?

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  44. Nookin (3,257 comments) says:

    Ad hom politics is dirty politics Penny. That is what this is all about in case you have missed it. You do dirty politics. There is no issue to debate.

    Meant in a gentle and informative way, of course. So John Banks likes your style. Isn’t he corrupt and portrayed by you as a rat? Birds of a feather?

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  45. hj (6,797 comments) says:

    There’s nothing wrong with the N word per se except that it stems from a time when blacks bodies could be owned by whites.
    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/12422/12422-h/12422-h.htm

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  46. Elaycee (4,350 comments) says:

    Please stop mentioning the real name of the Dambusters dog…. it will send Milkmilo (and others wanting to rewrite history) apoplectic!

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  47. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    “How is Prime Minister John Key ‘working for New Zealand’ when he’s a shareholder in the crooked Bank of America’?”

    Millions of people hold shares in banks you stupid communist loon. You think they should sell those shares because some sandal wearing communist like you says the bank is corrupt? Fuck off with your loony assertions. Key LIKE ANY OTHER PERSON is entitled to hold shares in any organisation that lists them on the market and its not for cowards like you to call him corrupt for owning them. You live by the smear and that’s what makes you lowlife.

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  48. Pete George (23,421 comments) says:

    I’ve notched up another ban on my belt, Russel through a hissy at me at Public Address. It startedv with this comment from Sacha:

    all 3 parties, the politician, the blogger and the author, had controversial reputations

    That’s just lazy rubbish. Two of the three are serial professional liars while the third is an internationally-respected investigative journalist who has never had a single fact in any of his books successfully challenged.

    I successfully challenged that, providing links to several including DPF’s debunking of Hager’s claims about him.

    The troops didn’t like that and started to attack me and call for me to be banned, and Russell obliged.

    Sacha was the first to congratulate him.

    Kiwiblog is a standout amongst our major political blogs – the rest clamp down on you if you challenge their message control.

    Appreciate and the freedom we have to comment without any suppression of views. It’s a gift from DPF that may remain if we don’t abuse it.

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  49. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Good on you PG – lefty blogs (including their hosts) seem to have a much lower tolerance for dissent.

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  50. Ross12 (1,370 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts

    Where were looking at the rates ? Those published in “ordinary” media are usually the mid rate ( ie. mid between the bank buy and sell rates). Having said that the banks do get their “pound of flesh” with FX rates. I’ve always viewed them as a competitor in the FX situation in that they have to balance their books at the end of the day or week. When you went to sold your A$s they did not go off to find someone to buy them –they have their pool of A$s from which they add and sell during the day / week. They will want it to balance or make a profit at the end of that period.

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  51. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Pete
    I don’t think Cameron’s credibility has been dented. If anything it’s been exposed he has pretty good sources! However I think that his motives have been laid bare, but then again, to those who follow his blog he has always been open about politics being a dirty business and that he just loves it. So his motives were very obvious too, simply, he hates the Left. And who can blame him.
    To me that honesty is far more refreshing than the sanctimonious and disingenuous behaviour of many of our current crop of media commentators. That list is long.
    I think Whale is loving this. Not so good for the Nats but his traffic must be through the roof.

    Oh and good on you for speaking up at Public address

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  52. flash2846 (252 comments) says:

    How can there possibly be anything wrong with the word “nigger” It is featured on thousands of songs and used frequently in daily conversation as well as on television. So what’s the big deal?

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  53. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    “How can there possibly be anything wrong with the word “nigger” ”

    You just need to STFU you pissant white boy, and just keep on dancing to the tune of your black masters.

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  54. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

    Real men would put their names to their posts – you gutless cowards.

    Penny Bright

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  55. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Flash
    I reckon you’ve got a point. Brown and Black people use the word with impunity but see a white man say it and look out. I have a theory that Blacks use it purely because they know whites can’t . I also think racism isn’t restricted to White people either…If the word is now in common usage then maybe nows the time we just accept that the original derogatory meaning has passed and nigger just means my black friend?

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  56. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    Keep posting Penny,and dont let wackos like igm effect you

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  57. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Penny
    Interesting brand of dirty politics you’ve got going on.

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  58. Nukuleka (291 comments) says:

    Has anyone noticed that over on The Standard they seem to be getting a wee bit panicky that most New Zealanders aren’t falling for their Hager hatchet job and that John Key is still the most popular PM we have seen in many a while? They are advising their comrades to always use negative terms when referring to the government, the National Party and Key. Perhaps that’s why overnight National Party billboards along Bealey Ave in Chch now sport the word ‘lying’ across them. Now who could possibly be responsible for this?

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  59. Other_Andy (2,560 comments) says:

    Refracking brings ‘vintage’ oil and gas wells to life

    http://news.yahoo.com/refracking-brings-vintage-oil-gas-wells-life-051230331.html

    Better ban that in New Zealand before companies are pumping up more gas, make a profit, add to the tax base, create jobs and make us more independent of foreign imports.
    VOTE GREEN!
    We’ll stop the economy dead in its tracks!
    Ban, tax and regulate!

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  60. Nukuleka (291 comments) says:

    Sorry to say but black rap music and black ‘culture’ appear to use this ‘n’ term without impunity. It’s a bit like the word ‘queer’. Straights weren’t supposed to use this allegedly derogatory word to denote gays either, until the gays themselves decided it was an okay term.

    Whatever happened to the old adage about ‘sticks and stones’? We’re all just a wee bit precious it seems to me.

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  61. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.

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  62. big bruv (13,664 comments) says:

    Paid your rates yet Penny?

    Or are you still sucking from the public tit?

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  63. flash2846 (252 comments) says:

    @ All_on_Red – Yeah, totally agree. One of our group at uni was/is Persian; our nickname for him was “raggy”. No one cared because most students aren’t dumb enough to see an insult where there isn’t one.

    @ Redbaiter – Who said I was white?

    @ publicwatchdog – Penny, I hope you weren’t referring to me with that “gutless….” comment.

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  64. oldpark (245 comments) says:

    Flash back, Doesn’t seem that long ago when the commie Green Taleban Party were caught smashing National Party signs.The sign terrorist had a girl friend in Russel Normans office.go figure.That type of result destroyed the goodie two shoes image of such a sneaky dirty little no electoral seat ” Green” commie party .Their aim if elected is to take over the lifestyle life of NZs and turn the country into a NORTH KOREA of the SOUTH PACIFIC.Like all communists, by sneaky questionable methods,and their attempted bribing of the so called academics and others.

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  65. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    Listen Penny, John key might be a slly little prog wanker without a political clue, but he is not corrupt and you have no evidence to say he is. Your campaign is just a campaign of dishonest smears.

    Even John Banks is not corrupt. He’s actually a good man. He’s just a bloody fool politically. But he does not deserve the smears against his character that you have leveled against him.

    Your strategy is smears and it is the strategy of the coward.

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  66. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Real men would put their names to their posts

    Is that some misandry from our dear Penny? Why not “people of principle would put their names to their posts”?

    That can’t have been meant in a very caring way!

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  67. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Great “Free Palestine” rally in London yesterday.

    There was tents to sign up to the Socilaist Workers Party, t shirts with “Hamas Hamas. Gas The Jews” and a lonely peaceful Israeli flag wearing older gentlemen was escorted away by police to the nearest underground

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  68. Pete George (23,421 comments) says:

    They are advising their comrades to always use negative terms when referring to the government, the National Party and Key.

    That will really help Labour’s ‘Vote positive’ message, won’t it.

    You can easily plan an election campaign but it’s a lot harder to change old school political activists.

    And related to this and banning, I once suggested to The Standard that a more positive inclusive blog would help Labour’s chances rather than attacking anyone deemed right or not the right left. They banned me for trying to tell them how to run their blog.

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  69. doggone7 (769 comments) says:

    flipper; “Lying Mike “Fat Tony” Williams (Labour’s previous version of Hager) trying (on Q+A) yet again to re-write the record over his failed ” JK – H-bomb” scandal.”

    Exactly how was Williams re-writing the record? Is the “record” not true? How do you know what the truth is?

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  70. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    One of the real issues with Muslims is their reproduction rate. People used to have 10 kids because you expected 8 of them would die due to disease, malnutrition etc.

    No we have the western health system and the UN who support this excessive lifecycle.

    Does take a brain surgeon to work out average of 2 for a judeo/Christian/Asian family versus average of 8 to 10 for a Muslim family is going to cause some issues

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  71. lilman (948 comments) says:

    Penny youre mad as a cut snake.

    Pay your rates you thief,every day you are stealing from your neighbours.

    Disgrace is your standard.

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  72. Reid (16,179 comments) says:

    That will really help Labour’s ‘Vote positive’ message, won’t it.

    Haven’t you worked out yet Pete that the Vote Positive message is a meme to allow Liarbore to pretend they stand above the affray they knew was coming when they planned that meme?

    It’s a meme. Look up the meaning of that word.

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  73. Viking2 (11,339 comments) says:

    publicwatchdog (2,236 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Real men would put their names to their posts – you gutless cowards.

    Penny Bright
    ==========================\
    Real women would be home in the kitchen cooking us fresh hot scones and doing the housework.

    Not screaming insults and untruths at others.
    Oh and real women pay their rates.

    Meant in guiding manner to correct your ways.

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  74. stephieboy (2,630 comments) says:

    Southern Raider ,

    Are you suggesting that all Muslims need to undergo some form of mass sterilization. i

    Are e.g Latin American Catholics experiencing a marked decline in their birthrates.?

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  75. Milburn35 (23 comments) says:

    Twyford on Q+A this morning was wafting on about Labours housing policy. Kiwi Build will bring affordable housing for ordinary kiwis he said. We will free up government land for this purpose. I thought Labour were against state assets being sold.Between $300,000 to $400,000 would be the cost of these affordable homes, he said. Anybody who purchases one of these could put it on the open market and double their investment in no time. No doubt Labour will have some clause in the sale and purchase agreement that people who buy these affordable homes will not be able to sell them for umpteen years to avoid speculation. I do not live in Auckland but the so called housing crisis in Auckland is because Auckland will never have enough houses because the population growth is out of control. Labour has some ridiculous polices and housing is one of them.

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  76. Slipster (136 comments) says:

    I see Penny – the female “public dog” lies again:
    “If John Key was the Prime Minister of Australia he would be prohibited from owning shares in the Bank of America – or any other company.”
    ——-
    FYI dear:
    “In early 1999, the government [Australian] announced that ministers would no longer be required to divest themselves of shareholdings.[29]”
    -and even before that:
    “The code required ministers to divest shares in portfolios that they oversaw” (emphasis mine).

    Quoted from Wiki with further references listed there.

    But keep on lying Penny, keep lying.

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  77. macdee (38 comments) says:

    Reid, I think your right that Labour knew what was coming, too much of a coincidence, McCarten will be donkey deep in it, so did Gower if his evasive response when Plunkett fronted him last week is anything to go by, this story has further to run as the left’s dirty tricks start to leak out

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  78. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Stephieboy just pointing out you have a large and rapidly growing culture who contribute little to their host countries, take everything they can and force their requirements onto the greater population

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  79. Nookin (3,257 comments) says:

    “Real men would put their names to their posts – you gutless cowards.

    Penny Bright”

    Penny, there is absolutely no need or justification whatsoever for you to demand the names of people commenting and criticising them because they happen to use pseudonyms.

    Using a pseudonym has nothing to do with courage or cowardice. Using a real name should neither add to nor detract from comments, arguments or opinions. They should speak for themselves. Their validity should be self evident and not dependent on the identity, occupation or political persuasion of the author.

    I try to make what I say speak for itself. You do not need to know the person behind my comments. My responses to posts made by you would be exactly the same whether I knew your name or not. As far as I am concerned, your identity is wholly irrelevant. So is mine.

    The only conceivable reason that you would want to know who may be making any comments is to focus on the person and not the problem.

    Your anger and frustration at not knowing who is criticising you simply illustrates your vindictiveness.

    Sure, there are a number of commenters who are hiding behind pseudonyms and may not necessarily make the same comments under their own names. However, I think you will find that 95% of the people on this blog ignore most of those comments anyway.

    You do not know my name. You may not know my profession because I have not hidden it. However, otherwise you know nothing about me and your posts, in the past, indicates that you feel yourself to be at a disadvantage as a result. Well, I have rather sad news for you. You would gain absolutely nothing by knowing my real name or the names of most of the other commenters. You might gain some degree of satisfaction in googling them and engaging in stereotyping and bigotry. That, adds nothing to the debate.

    You may be upset about what you perceive to be an aggressiveness towards you. That is entirely of your own making. Virtually all of your posts are barbed with antagonism and are designed to be provocative (negatively so) and critical. Some people responding to you go overboard. Ignore them. Do not however it ignore people who question the double standards that you apply, the sweeping and derogatory statements that you make (usually only about people in the blue spectrum of the political arena – Key in particular).

    Surprisingly, you may even find that if you modified your position and engaged in reason rather than provocation, you might find that people here agree with some of your comments (if not the way you want to go about them). Cameron Slater, for example, has advocated an independent body to deal with corruption and electoral offences.

    If you really want to contribute, think very carefully about what you want to achieve and the most efficacious way of going about it. Antagonising people is not the answer. Adopting a one sided and extreme approach to a position is not the answer. If you have not learned that from the last couple of weeks, then I very seriously suggest you sit down and reconsider what you are doing, why you are doing it and how best you should proceed.

    Meant in a constructive way, of course.

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  80. Don the Kiwi (1,678 comments) says:

    Nookin.

    You’re wasting your time trying to be nice to Penny the Public Watch Bitch. (she can’t be a watchdog – she’s female – Isn’t she ;-))

    She’s just a disgusting lying bludger who can’t see past her own self absorption.

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  81. Milburn35 (23 comments) says:

    Another thing on Q+A this morning. Mike Williams was accused of going to Melbourne in the Helen Clark era to dig dirt up on JK. Key had been accused of having an illegal trade in the futures market which he was later cleared. Williams said he was not there to dig up dirt, he was just doing research. Not one word from Wood or Dann on this reply. Fair and balanced. Yea right

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  82. DJP6-25 (1,353 comments) says:

    flipper 8:40 am. You hit the nail on the head.

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  83. Other_Andy (2,560 comments) says:

    Southern Raider says at 10:46 am

    Great “Free Palestine” rally in London yesterday.
    There was tents to sign up to the Socilaist Workers Party, t shirts with “Hamas Hamas. Gas The Jews” and a lonely peaceful Israeli flag wearing older gentlemen was escorted away by police to the nearest underground

    Hamas T-Shirts….
    That is so 2014 SR.
    They now have T-shirts of Hitler wearing a Free Palestinr T shirt*.

    http://tinyurl.com/pjtjrwj

    Now that is edgy!

    *That is for people who were still wondering what side Hamas and the Hamas supporting islamofascist scum were on.

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  84. OECD rank 22 kiwi (2,824 comments) says:

    Ninety Mile beach?

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  85. waikatosinger (22 comments) says:

    Penny,

    How is John Key owning shares in the Bank of America a conflict of interest. Nothing John Key can do is going to have much influence on that bank one way or another. Surely it is less of a conflict of interest to own shares in a foreign company that doesn’t do business in New Zealand than it would be to own shares in a New Zealand company that the actions of the government could directly effect.

    John Key is a wealthy man. Where do you think he should invest his wealth. Penny, that would be less of a conflict of interest than the Bank of America?

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  86. calendar girl (1,213 comments) says:

    Redbaiter @ 10:42am – Well said, Red. You challenge Penny Bright directly on her campaign of deeply-offensive ad hominem smears which she wages behind her adopted facade of ‘playing the fool’. There’s not much that’s light-hearted, though, in Penny’s calculated smearing. Many of her personal attacks range from distorted through to brazenly misleading. She is no paragon of virtue to be labelling as ‘corrupt’ good people doing their best in the service of our country.

    And Penny, after your little outburst at 10:23am (“Real men would put their names to their posts – you gutless cowards.”), before you challenge me as well to publish my name, go back to my comment to you a couple of days ago about why those of us in business or in paid employment don’t enjoy your full ‘freedoms’. You didn’t address that issue then, or my observation about your tactic of smearing and defaming public figures while using the device of an ‘innocuous’ question to protect you from Court action.

    Serious political discourse can do without your ad hominems, Penny, which are far from as clever or as fearless as you would have us believe.

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  87. Fletch (6,231 comments) says:

    We now know why Obama came back to Washington the other day for the day, before heading back out to his golfing vacation.
    A bachelor party.

    In addition to golf, the president’s vacation scorecard included three dinners out, two beach days, one bike ride, a jazz concert and a fund-raiser for Senate Democrats. Not to mention a five-hour bachelor party Monday in the Washington home of former White House chef Sam Kass.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/barack-obama-marthas-vineyard-presidential-vacations/

    The guy is just living it up while the world goes to hell.

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  88. stigie (1,056 comments) says:

    “John Key is a wealthy man. Where do you think he should invest his wealth. Penny, that would be less of a conflict of interest than the Bank of America?”

    Penny thinks his wealth should be given to the so called people in poverty to do what they want with it and still thinks hes a nasty “Rich Prick”. Bludgers like Penny should be shouted down !~

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  89. Fletch (6,231 comments) says:

    About time.
    Hollywood heavyweights, including Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Sylvester Stallone, author a letter standing up for Israel.

    We, the undersigned, are saddened by the devastating loss of life endured by Israelis and Palestinians in Gaza. We are pained by the suffering on both sides of the conflict and hope for a solution that brings peace to the region.

    While we stand firm in our commitment to peace and justice, we must also stand firm against ideologies of hatred and genocide which are reflected in Hamas’ charter, Article 7 of which reads, “There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!” The son of a Hamas founder has also commented about the true nature of Hamas.

    Hamas cannot be allowed to rain rockets on Israeli cities, nor can it be allowed to hold its own people hostage. Hospitals are for healing, not for hiding weapons. Schools are for learning, not for launching missiles. Children are our hope, not our human shields.

    We join together in support of the democratic values we all cherish and in the hope that the healing and transformative power of the arts can be used to build bridges of peace.

    Michael Adler
    Avi Arad
    Tom Arnold
    Jeff Astrof
    Craig Balsam
    Gary Barber
    Roseanne Barr
    Elana Barry
    Jonathan Baruch
    Aaron Bay-Schuck
    Lainie Sorkin Becky
    Steven Bensusan
    Adam Berkowitz
    Greg Berlanti
    Jordan Berliant
    Mayim Bialik
    Joshua P Binder
    Todd Black
    Michael Borkow
    Scooter Braun
    Dan Brecher
    Eric Brooks
    Dan Bucatinsky
    David Byrnes
    Omri Casspi
    Josh Charles
    Etan Cohen
    Joe Cohen
    Marc Dauer
    Craig David
    Donald De Line
    Matt DelPiano
    Josh Deutsch
    Minnie Driver
    Jack Dytman
    Lee Eisenberg
    Doug Ellin
    Diane English
    Dan Erlij
    Ron Fair
    Dave Feldman
    James Feldman
    Patti Felker
    Sam Fischer
    Erica Forster
    Gary Foster
    Doug Frank
    Bryan J. Freedman
    Geordie E. Frey
    William Friedkin
    Daryl Friedman
    Michael Fricklas
    Jeremy Garelick
    Ran Geffen-Lifshitz
    Andrew Genger
    Jody Gerson
    Risa Gertner
    Jami Gertz
    Gary Ginsberg
    David Glick
    Jonathan Glickman
    Evan Goldberg
    Gil Goldschein
    Tony Goldwyn
    Nate Goodman
    Marc Graboff
    Kelsey Grammer
    Trudy Green
    Adam Griffin
    Iris Grossman
    Phil Hacker
    Sanaa Hamri
    Adi Hasak
    Ned Haspel
    Andrew Hurwitz
    Kathy Ireland
    Bill Jacobson
    Neil Jacobson
    Jonathan Jakubowicz Nathan Kahane
    Adam Kaller
    Zach Katz
    Ryan Kavanaugh
    Ron Kenan
    Larry Kennar
    Kevin King-Templeton
    Michael Kives
    Courtney Kivowitz
    Patrick Knapp
    Amanda Kogan
    Steven Kram
    Erik Kritzer
    Peter Landesman
    Eriq La Salle
    Sherry Lansing
    Estelle Lasher
    Michael Lasker
    Keili Lefkovitz
    Carol Leifer
    Avi Lerner
    Colin Lester
    Ben Levine
    Susan Levinson
    David Levy
    Shuki Levy
    Linda Lichter
    Jonathan Littman
    David Lonner
    Benji Madden
    Joel Madden
    Bill Maher
    Joshua Malina
    Rob Markus
    Orly Marley
    Ziggy Marley
    Bill Masters
    Barry McPherson
    Brian Medavoy
    Jeff Melman
    Scott Melrose
    Jeffrey D. Melvoin
    Rina Mimoun
    Michael Morales
    Alan Nierob
    Michael Nyman
    James Packer
    Scott Packman
    Amy Pascal
    Donald S. Passman
    Brett Paul
    Linda Perry
    Richard Plepler
    Rob Prinz
    Dan Rabinow
    Dean Raise
    Bruce M. Ramer
    David Ready
    Ivan Reitman
    David Renzer
    Hanna Rochelle
    Seth Rogen
    John Rogovin
    Lena Roklin
    Zvi Howard Rosenman
    Bill Rosenthal
    Phil Rosenthal
    Brian Ross
    Michael Rotenberg
    Rob Rothman
    Robert Rovner
    Susan Rovner
    Haim Saban
    Nancy Sanders
    Mark Schiff
    Steve Schnur
    Jordan Schur
    Sam Schwartz
    Arnold Schwarzenegger
    Adam Schweitzer
    Scott Siegler
    Ben Silverman
    Sarah Silverman
    Martin Singer
    Aaron Sorkin
    Steve Spira
    Sylvester Stallone
    Norman Steinberg
    Gary Stiffelman
    Gene Stupnitsky
    Eric Suddleson
    Nick Styne
    Danny Sussman
    Traci Szymanski
    Nina Tassler
    Adam Taylor
    Mitch Tenzer
    Fred D. Toczek
    Michael Tolkin
    Jonathan Tropper
    Paul Wachter
    Nina Wass
    Avi Wasserman
    Steven Weber
    Bernie Weinraub
    Jerry Weintraub
    David N. Weiss
    Alan Wertheimer
    Ron West
    Nikki Wheeler
    Bryan Wolf
    Sharon Tal Yguado
    Pete Yorn
    Rick Yorn

    http://www.creativecommunityforpeace.com/justice/

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  90. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    “Bludgers like Penny should be shouted down !~”

    You should go easy on Penny you slimy little prog crawler. If she wasn’t around there’d be nothing to make you look passable.

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  91. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Fletch and Obama fitted in time to veto the senate who wanted to ship more weapons to Israel

    His true colours are more than in the open now.

    Fuck he’s starting to make Jimmy Carter look good.

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  92. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Fletch I’m waiting for The Expendables 4 to come out where their mission is to take down Hamas and ISIS

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  93. MH (696 comments) says:

    it’s not the nougat reference I object to in the filum about bombing hydro electric installations …it’s the overuse od D— and b–ters that offends me.

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  94. stephieboy (2,630 comments) says:

    Southern Raider, for any US President Including GWB as well as Obama , whilst supporting israel, it also involves a balancing act that will ensure a durable and lasting peace for all concerned .
    That in the end attempts to seek compromise and equal concessions from all. A lop sided approach favouring only one side is to guarantee further conflict and war.
    BTW it s a little known fact that Jimmy Carter initiated and started a process by giving military aid to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan that in turn drew the Soviet union into there hoping to eventually undermine and destroy the Soviet state.
    He succeeded beyond his and anyones wildest dreams

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  95. stephieboy (2,630 comments) says:

    Southern Raider, for any US President Including GWB as well as Obama , whilst supporting israel, it also involves a balancing act that will ensure a durable and lasting peace for all concerned .
    That in the end attempts to seek compromise and equal concessions from all. A lop sided approach favouring only one side is to guarantee further conflict and war.
    BTW it s a little known fact that Jimmy Carter initiated and started a process by giving military aid to the Mujhadadeeen in Afghanistan that in turn drew the Soviet union in there hoping to eventually undermine and destroy the Soviet state.
    He succeeded beyond his and anyones wildest dreams

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  96. RF (1,363 comments) says:

    We must not forget that the Green Party are nothing but filthy communists and a danger to our society. Add to this smelly soap dodgers.

    Norman was a member of the Socialist Workers Party in Australia with connections to the Revolutionary Marxist Leninist organisation and when he was run out of town he slithered over here to NZ.

    His mate Kermit was a founding member of the Random Trollops and the McGillicudy Serious Party. She was also a member of Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party. The next time you see her frumping around in her designer clothes and snearing at the poor, remember this.

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  97. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    RF I am not a fan of Turei but I don’t think she’s ever sneered at the poor. I am happy to be proven wrong.

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  98. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    Hager the Horrible’s anonymous hacker who steals other emails may be ahead of this warning, which is about how vulnerable Gmail etc can be to a hack. I still reckon Hager the Horrible’s source is likely to be a Leftist in, or previously in, the GCSB.

    But this should make people careful about what they transmit or receive through Gmail:

    http://www.zdnet.com/how-to-hack-gmail-92-percent-of-the-time-7000032877/?s_cid=e539&ttag=e539&ftag=TRE17cfd61

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  99. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    She doe’s do a fine, expensive selection of bones and jade round her frumpy fat neck at times though adze! :)

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  100. stigie (1,056 comments) says:

    You forgot homo, knuckledragging, communist coward Reddy. FFS get with ole chap and lighten up !~

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  101. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Housing loan kickstarters increased

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11313568

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  102. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Good article on stuff about Norman

    Shows he is a no good dropout who has never achieved anything useless and claims he is a reluctant leader

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  103. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Bribery and fucking corruption SR! :)

    Where’s “Farmer Bill” when you really need him? :)

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  104. waikatogirl (160 comments) says:

    Whatever you think about Cam Slater, at least he stands up for what he believes… Cam doesn’t hide behind a mask and leak evil little snippets like the COWARD Whale Dump! I bet he/they have been planning this assault on OUR election since their last loss because they know they can’t knock down John Key.
    JK has been planning on becoming Prime Minister since he was 15 so hasn’t left a string of skeletons to be used against him! The meathead COWARDS whale dump and their co-horts can’t believe Key (or anyone) is transparent so resort to their own dirty cowardly leaks to try to discredit him. Whale Dump – SHOW yourselves, or are you chicken little man!!

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  105. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    Waikatogirl I don’t think whale dump is a chicken little man. More like a fat German wrapped up in polar fleece and scarves who’s eaten too much deep fried chicken

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  106. Southern Raider (1,775 comments) says:

    All the nutters are straight onto the 3 news site to start attacking nationals housing policy

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  107. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    What are you doing later on tonight waikatogirl? :)

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  108. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    I see the WhaleOil sycophants are now encouraging a ban on Foodstuffs.
    This is just a few months after their campaign against Countdown.
    I wonder where they will all shop now – or will they be on heavy diets?

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  109. waikatogirl (160 comments) says:

    Yes, the fat German narcissist is behind this, or his $$$. His ex-employee said he is likely to be paying others to do his dirty work. Keep eating the KFC fat man… I thought that the US authorities changing his charges from criminal to civil so they can go after his $ without extradition would change his actions, but maybe it’s just concentrated his efforts to get John Key.

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  110. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    More evidence that the parties of the Right might be the lucky ones if they lose this election.

    World dairy prices ….

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11313569

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  111. RF (1,363 comments) says:

    adze. 1.37pm. Sneered as in…. parading around in her designer clothes whilst visiting the poor. I interpret this as giving the fingers.. fuck you jack i’m alright attitude. This is quite common for those who have stuff all and then suddenly come into a wealthy lifestyle. Its a case of short memories – “let them eat cake” senario.

    She is quick to decry the heartless Govt for not helping the poor so thought some solidarity with them may not be out of place.

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  112. holysheet (324 comments) says:

    Jack5 what happens in the UK has little affect on the world price of milk. All the uk production is consumed internally, so there is no correlation with the prices we get here in NZ.
    The last fonterra auction showed the prices had stabilised after a 40 % fall over the past 6 months.

    Never believe anything you read in the herald.

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  113. Kiwi Dave (84 comments) says:

    Stephieboy: “…seek compromise and equal concessions from all.”

    Fine-sounding words. So what compromise by Israel short of surrender and mass suicide would be acceptable to Hamas?

    Even the right of return to Israel for Arab refugees and their descendants, as advocated by Arab ‘moderates’, would probably destroy Israel. When someone wants to kill you and you don’t want to be killed, being half-dead is not an attractive compromise.

    Which is not to say that Israel is always right or that Palestinians have no legitimate grievances.

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  114. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    If it’s the Timaru Herald you can holysheet! :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10412751/The-secret-diary-of-Judith-Collins

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  115. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    Holysheet posted at 2.22:

    Jack5 what happens in the UK has little affect on the world price of milk. All the uk production is consumed internally, so there is no correlation with the prices we get here in NZ.

    But it reflects world dairy prices, and I doubt NZ will step in to supply Russia with dairy products.

    and Holysheet further posted:

    The last fonterra auction showed the prices had stabilised after a 40 % fall over the past 6 months.

    That’s what we all hope, but it’s based on one auction that fell only 0.6 per cent. Here’s a further opinion:

    “There are perhaps the first signs of a consolidation but they are pretty tentative,” said ANZ Bank rural economist Con Williams.

    It’s worth remembering, too, that EU milk quotas come off quite soon.

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  116. BeaB (2,104 comments) says:

    Adze
    A wardrobe full of $4000 designer jackets is a hefty sneer at the poor, especially when you have bought them on the taxpayer dollar.
    It’s hard to swallow the sanctimony when she is kitted out like a well-upholstered Chesterfield suite.
    Actions always speak louder than words.

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  117. goldnkiwi (1,250 comments) says:

    Instead of running as an independent Penny, with your profile I am sure you would have been a shoe in to be selected for a known party.

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  118. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    John Key better read this before he tries to sack Judith! :)

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11313562

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  119. stigie (1,056 comments) says:

    She has already bitten the Prime Minister JB, and the venom will never put him down !~

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  120. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Can’t talk now stigie. Busy shagging some wethers! :)

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  121. Yvette (2,761 comments) says:

    So that is what is wrong with the weather :-(

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  122. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    I see you confessed to murdering the Crewes and the Bain family – and, despite that, the comments keep coming. They’re now up to 760 comments.

    As I said, arguing with Bainiacs is a bit like plucking pubic hairs – they keep coming back!

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  123. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I was in the cellar at Yekaterinburg on the morning of July 17, 1918 as well Nostradamus.

    None of the bastards will believe me though! :)

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  124. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    I doubt they believe their own shit, judging by the nuttiness on that thread, let alone anyone else’s!

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  125. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I wasn’t in the darkened doorway across the road from the nightclub in Auckland though Nostradamus! :)

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  126. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Speaking of darkened doorways, is that D4J lurking in the shadows, STABBING the thumbs-down button again?

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  127. Milburn35 (23 comments) says:

    Oh dear. Len Browns train set has the go ahead from Labour. Are they going to ask Russell Norman for a loan of his printing press

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  128. nasska (11,085 comments) says:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4qx2wds547xhel/True%20Blue%201.png?dl=0

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  129. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Internet-Mana promises blowjobs for all

    Internet-Mana has launched its election campaign by promising 100,000 new jobs, nationwide full employment and an ambition to turn New Zealand into a “world-leading digital workforce”.

    The party’s Right to Work policy outlines a plan to create 50,000 permanent jobs and 50,000 shorter term jobs a year over the next five years, as well as how the party would tackle youth unemployment.

    It was launched at Western Springs College in Auckland today in front of a crowd of about 500 people.

    The party says creating the jobs would cost $1.3 billion a year and they would spend a further $400 million to develop a digital workforce.

    This would be paid for by redirecting a fifth of ACC current reserves as well as the employer and earner ACC levies to a new “social insurance fund”.

    How delightful…

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  130. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Nah he flys high with Richie! :)

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  131. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Wondered what our old mate was up to? :)

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10417383/Sticky-beak-is-New-Zealands-tooled-up-kea

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  132. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    fat.dothun will pay Nostra as long as we dont deport the c##t! :)

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  133. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    From Wikipedia:

    His other sporting passion is flying and he has been made an honorary Squadron Leader in the Royal New Zealand Air Force.[148] McCaw learned to fly gliders from his grandfather, who flew more than 300 missions in the Second World War.[144] In 2009 he convinced the head of the Discovery network in Australia and New Zealand to do a show about gliding.[149] They filmed McCaw gliding at Omarama on the extreme sports series Sportstar Insider, which was hosted by former Australian rugby league player Andrew Ettingshausen. After the 2010 Canterbury earthquake he auctioned a personal flying lesson through Trade Me to raise money for the badly damaged Hororata St Johns Church.[150] He is also raising money for a young Samoan who broke his neck playing rugby and whose village was destroyed in the 2009 Tsunami.[151]

    One of the joys of life: to be told “you’re flying high”.

    Such a contrast from “you’re flying low” (as in the wardrobe malfunction).

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  134. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Nostra:
    How are you doing the clean URL links? What’s the syntax?

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  135. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Adze:

    This webpage explains how you do it.

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  136. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Will dad be jealous?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemma_Flynn

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  137. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    Nostra@ Cheers.

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  138. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Unlikely Johnboy.

    If you’re cruising around Christchurch, and looking for a date, this is apparently the place to go!

    Perhaps we should ask Big Bruv to investigate and report back on what, or who, he finds?

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  139. Fletch (6,231 comments) says:

    Anyone just see Pam Corkery and her “puffed up little shit” comment to a reporter?
    That’s the problem when you have a party made up of past activists like Corkery, Minto, Harre, etc. They’re too used to screaming in protests and throwing tantrums. Not fit for politics at all. No self control.

    Not that the media don’t deserve it after their performance last week, but it’s good to see Mana facing some scrutiny for once – ya can give it but can’t take it, ey?

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  140. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    I live in Wellington and the damn communist chinese own the line company and im posting this in the gloom as we have had our 2ND POWER FAILURE in a week FUCKERS and keys new power companies charge like wounded bulls,fuck there goes my meal,YAHOO the powers come on, FUCK KEY NZ is first world is it??????????

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  141. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    Pam Corkery – always been full of class (how’s that male brothel going Pam??).
    And Kim Dot Crim boasts of hacking the German Prime Ministers’ personal credit rating – what a narcissist wanker.
    Why does anyone want to be associated with that freak.
    I despair at the country NZ is rapidly becoming.

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  142. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    @Fletch I saw that :) had a good chuckle, I see they didn’t want One News to run the story.

    I have never rated Corkery, mind you. At least Harre has some self control.

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  143. kowtow (8,131 comments) says:

    Pam Corkery, far leftist running obstuction for capitalist millionaire.Odd.

    She got one thing right though, calling the repeaters shits. They called it “media abuse”. Fuck ,they must live very sheltered lives.

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  144. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    There was a rumour going round Wainui that she once fucked the entire Wainui Rugby League team!

    Must have played for Randwick I guess! :)

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  145. ex-golfer (156 comments) says:

    I’ve lived in Wellington for the past nine years and have never experienced a power outage (outside of a small time during earthquakes). Maybe Lurch, you should change supplier or location.
    And shop around – you may be surprised at the savings you can make with power.
    I’ve never had a monthly bill over $100.

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  146. Fletch (6,231 comments) says:

    Anyone know why DotCom always wear the same clothes? Are they flattering to his figure, or is he just trying to be easily identifiable like movie characters who always wear the same (Rupert The Bear etc)

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  147. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I’ve been out for 44 hours ex-golfer. Depends where you live in Welly town! :)

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  148. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    “(Rupert The Bear etc)” or…..

    https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=fat+bastard&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=04P5U6H-Jc3h8AXUtIDoCg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=916

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  149. ShawnLH (4,481 comments) says:

    “And shop around – you may be surprised at the savings you can make with power.”

    Well that would mean getting off his ass and actually doing something. Far easier for Lurcher to just whine like a child and make mindless attacks Key.

    People like Lurcher are a good argument for compulsory national service.

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  150. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    Do you think DPF should introduce a “Minus Reveal” feature?

    Then you’ll know the name of every sad fuck who gives you a thumb down.

    I mean, seriously, look at the thumbs-down given for the 5:58pm, 6:00pm and 6:03pm comments.

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  151. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    Nostradamus (3,094 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    Do you think DPF should introduce a “Minus Reveal” feature?

    I don’t need such a feature – I just think ‘all of the above’ for my posts!! :-)

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  152. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I never realised Pam still had so many fans in Wainui Nostra!

    She must have been a good root! :)

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  153. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Your pikelets were to die for Judith! :)

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  154. Longknives (4,686 comments) says:

    Stay Classy Pam Corkery.
    Dotcom Party showing their true colours tonight!
    What a disgrace..

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  155. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Johnboy:

    I didn’t realise her nickname “Squawkery” came from her sexual conquests. Tell us more!

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  156. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (15,513 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    If you’ve been eating my pikelets this weekend I suggest you get to A & E – I haven’t made any for weeks, and been too busy to cook this weekend!

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  157. lurcher1948 (151 comments) says:

    ex-golfer (154 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:15 pm
    I’ve lived in Wellington for the past nine years and have never experienced a power outage (outside of a small time during earthquakes). Maybe Lurch, you should change supplier or location.
    And shop around – you may be surprised at the savings you can make with power.
    I’ve never had a monthly bill over $100.

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    Shawn im old and FUCKED YOUR MOTHER , son you post like shit, and your mum liked it,both ways

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  158. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    It was just after they built the clubrooms. Someone had to christen them.

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  159. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    They were just virtual Judith pikelets. I ate them with thin slices of virgin lamb off my virtual sheep Judith! :)

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  160. dad4justice (8,023 comments) says:

    Sick stuff on here tonight , no wonder this place smells like a sewer. Tough boys these kiwiblog anonymous cowards. Yeah right.

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  161. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (15,515 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    ahhhh, the power of the imagination!!

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  162. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    D4J:

    Would you be interested in doing an “undercover” investigation for us?

    Edit: I see D4J is now accusing me of bestiality.

    Second edit: And I see D4J, on reflection, has deleted the “goat” comment. Nice try at covering your tracks.

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  163. big bruv (13,664 comments) says:

    Nos

    Do you get the feeling that somebody is desperate for attention?

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  164. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I’m a tad concerned about my rampant imagination regarding your pikelets Judith. Should I seek therapy or could you just post your recipe? :)

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  165. RF (1,363 comments) says:

    I see the fat Nazi has form for hacking in Germany and boasts about it. Should not take too much effort to join the dots for the recent shit storm.

    The screech owl Corkery may have to hit the streets with her “girls” as she may not have a job in the near future. What an evil piece of excrement.

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  166. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Big Bruv:

    Well, if Richie is unavailable, then “cruising” will have to do I guess – Kiwiblog or other popular Christchurch spots.

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  167. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    @ Johnboy (15,516 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    You want me to start posting recipes on here Johnboy? I can just imagine how that would go down!
    Anyway, nothing special about the recipe its the way I cook them makes them great!! :-)

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  168. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Judith:

    Anyway, nothing special about the recipe its the way I cook them makes them great!! :-)

    Don’t say that – now Johnboy will be imagining you in the kitchen starkers!

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  169. big bruv (13,664 comments) says:

    Nos

    Well, to be fair, it might not be the first time that he has done that.

    It must be lonely without Richie around.

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  170. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    @ Nostradamus (3,098 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Jeez!! He’ll definitely need A & E if he does that!!

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  171. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    Is it that you just wear your little French maids apron and nothing else when you are cooking them Judith?

    Dont worry about going down on things here. I never have! :)

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  172. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    So what’s the news, anything exciting been happening out here in the real world? (Well as real as it gets for blogging)

    @ Johnboy (15,517 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:51 pm

    You have a special way with words Johnboy!

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  173. dad4justice (8,023 comments) says:

    :-) cowards of kiwiblog Part 15789. Really get lives you sad creeps. Haha enjoy your pathetic pathological hate sessions.

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  174. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Judith:

    You could make the news – Johnboy lives in hope that you’ll visit him in your Holden.

    Big Bruv:

    Do you hear that buzzing sound?

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  175. nasska (11,085 comments) says:

    Here’s a pretty generic recipe you might find handy Judith: :)

    “Eye of newt, and toe of frog,
    Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
    Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
    Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,–
    For a charm of powerful trouble,
    Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.”

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  176. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    I’ll clean out my sheepdip and warm up the water when I have an eta! :)

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  177. big bruv (13,664 comments) says:

    Nos

    I was just about to ask you the same thing. There is a virtual blowfly buzzing around in here.

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  178. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    nasska (10,843 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    What’s a howlet, and are you sure bat’s have wool? I think I get into enough trouble without trying to build spells!

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  179. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Do you suppose it’s Louie the Fly?

    Louie the Fly first landed on the scene in 1957. Born to parents Marg and Mort, he is the youngest of three boys. While he was always the apple of his mother’s eye, he was known around town as the ultimate bad egg. Everybody either knew Louie or had heard about him. He was bad, mean and mighty unclean, and he spread disease with the greatest of ease.

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  180. Johnboy (15,891 comments) says:

    All the batty things at Johnboys place have wool! :)

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  181. Tauhei Notts (1,677 comments) says:

    Yesterday I blogged about a diverse group of blokes all of whom dismissed the Hager stuff as media crap.
    This afternoon was spent with lunch, riesling, gewurtztraminer and several university educated 30 something childless women. Lovely lunch, lovely wine, but their unanimous loathing of John Key, Cameron Slater et al was a bit worrying.
    They were all Aucklanders and I wondered if Nicky Kaye’s seat was safe for her.
    If I wanted my eyes scratched out I would have referred to them as barren spinsters, but I don’t and I didn’t. But with the anonymity of Kiwiblog I can. I hope, for the sake of my nation that, my lunch companions are a very small minority of our country.

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  182. Judith (8,531 comments) says:

    @ Tauhei Notts (1,638 comments) says:
    August 24th, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    Funny you should say that. I’ve spent all weekend with some very learned people and even though the conference had nothing to do with politics, the issue got a mention.

    One of the speakers had a very old photo in his screened presentation – it was all blackened round the edges and he said he didn’t know what the stuff on the edges was, but it “looks toxic and poisonous – perhaps its Whaleoil”

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  183. stigie (1,056 comments) says:

    Hey guys, just mention “Richie” and you will get heaps of downticks ?

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  184. Dead Earnest (160 comments) says:

    Good to see the MSM finally cottoning on to the link between Hager’s anonymous source and the worlds most proficent criminal hacker and a self confessed hater of John Key.
    Seems like the ever pleasant Pam Corkery may need to attend some anger mangement classes.
    View here (caution content may offend) http://tvnz.co.nz/vote-2014-news/reporter-called-puffed-up-little-sh-t-internet-party-staffer-6063299

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  185. EAD (927 comments) says:

    Reid 10:57 am – bit late to the debate but excellent comment below:

    “Haven’t you worked out yet Pete that the Vote Positive message is a meme to allow Liarbore to pretend they stand above the affray they knew was coming when they planned that meme?”

    Politics in this country can best be described as a Kabuki Theatre. Below is the definition of a Political Kabuki Theatre

    “An extremely stylised political show where the roles of the actors (MPs) are as predefined as the outcome, the result being, even under the most extreme circumstances, only barely (if at all) recognisable as what can be considered reasonable discourse amongst educated men and women interested in the public good.”

    The truth is New Zealanders deep down know that something is wrong, deeply wrong. They see signs of the problem everywhere: income inequality, growing concentration and power of corporations, political donations/corruption, unpopular laws being passed with no mandate, eye-watering debt etc, etc.

    Those who benefit from this crony capitalist state go to extreme lengths to paper over the reality and convince New Zealanders that our system works and that NZ democracy is in fact democratic where to any free-thinking person it is anything but.

    It is choosing from two cheeks of the same arse – bad (National) or utterly terrifying (Labour).

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  186. Redbaiter (8,251 comments) says:

    “Seems like the ever pleasant Pam Corkery may need to attend some anger mangement classes.”

    Pity the so called right can’t display a like willingness to fight their corner.

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  187. Lindsay Addie (1,318 comments) says:

    Pam C’s effort at the KDC party launch may go down as one of the most memorable election campaign moments alongside Rob Muldoon announcing the 1984 election. There is link between the two events in that alcohol was probably involved in both!

    As for KDC’s party I cannot recall so many nutbar’s all together in one political party in a New Zealand election campaign ever.

    KDC sure is a bloody plonker.

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  188. Tinshed (138 comments) says:

    When Pam Corkery left Parliament in 1999 The Listener commented at the time that it marked the end of ‘amateur hour’. That is the end of the time when people without any political skills who were swept into Parliament via the party list without a clue as to what they were doing, were mercifully shuffled off the political stage. Pam represented the acme of those who thought politics was about theatre and their performance in that theatre. However politics is a serious business because it about making decisions on the well-being and prosperity of those you represent, i.e. all New Zealanders. Pam Corkery was singularly inept at this. Her career was, as it is now, all about her and her performance on whatever stage she is on.

    How on God’s green earth can you have a media liaison person from a political party contesting an election who tells the media, 4 weeks out from the raison d’etre for your party’s very existence, “You are shit”? Really? Here’s the thing: she may well be right about the media. I have seen enough comments on this blog to suggest there is a large amount of contempt for what is labelled the ‘MSM’. But Pam, you are the link between your Party and that media and no matter how much you despise that media, you don’t spit in their faces. Put simply, you are an amateur and beneath contempt.

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  189. Nookin (3,257 comments) says:

    Lindsay

    Calling a journalist a puffed up little shit will go down as one of her finer moments.

    However, her spin that herr dotcom’s admission that hacking computers to destroy the credibility of politicians he does not like is an eminently effective way of dealing with a problem and that he had in fact engaged in the activity himself, was not, in fact, news takes the cake.

    Not only does she abuse Brook Sabin, the enforcers go one step further and physically restrain reporters to stop them interviewing herr dotcom. He is not, she explains, a candidate.

    News for you Pamela. The Internet party is herr dotcom’s party. Have a look at Sean Plunkett’s Radio Live facebook site. Even Dottie’s lawyers say it’s his party. Pressure getting to you is it Pamela?

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  190. Tinshed (138 comments) says:

    I would like to nominate Russell Brown for “Doublespeaker of 2014″, the award given for the person who manages to take the most ghastly action and describe it in the most anodyne of terms. For example, we all know what “restructuring” really means, i.e. people being fired. We understand that “enhanced interrogation techniques” means torture, “tied and emotional” meaning drunk, etc. So Mr Brown sallies forth with the phrase, when describing Kim Dotcom saying he deliberately hacked the German President’s credit card rating, as, and I quote, I heard Dotcom’s reference to hacking; it was innocent in context.. There you go! It was just “innocent in context”. You can’t make this stuff up.

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  191. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    When Charles deGaulle decided to retire from public life, the American ambassador and his wife threw a gala dinner party in his honor. At the dinner table the Ambassador’s wife was talking with Madame deGaulle.

    “Your husband has been such a prominent public figure, such a presence on the French and international scene for so many years! How quiet retirement will seem in comparison. What are you most looking forward to in these retirement years?”

    “A penis,” replied Madame deGaulle.

    A huge hush fell over the table. Everyone heard her answer…and no one knew what to say next.

    Finally, Le Grand Charles leaned over to his wife and said, “Ma cherie, I believe zee Americans pronounce zat word, ‘appiness.”

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  192. All_on_Red (1,548 comments) says:

    Love your work tinshed

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  193. Nostalgia-NZ (5,085 comments) says:

    “innocent in context” is a sharp response. Good effort if it was off the cuff, smart if copied. What else could he say that would not open a door. Meanwhile the msm froth over it in one way to subdue the NP election launch and perhaps popularise DC as a ‘fighter’ against the established parties and the man ‘he doesn’t like.’ Anything else happening?

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  194. Rowan (2,066 comments) says:

    Nostradamus @ 6.45
    Why don’t you run along and nark to DPF and try to get him banned you spineless shit!

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  195. publicwatchdog (2,502 comments) says:

    See my lovely banners outside the Vodafone Events Centre today Kiwibloggers?

    Seems hundreds of National Party folks did :)

    It was a great day!

    PS: Check out the current Australian Commonwealth Government ‘Code of Conduct’ for Ministers that Prime Minister Kevin Rudd introduced in 2007.

    It confirms that Ministers are prohibited from openly owning shares in any company.

    So – if John Key was the Australian Prime Minister it would be unlawful for him to own shares in the Bank of America, as he currently does here in New Zealand.

    ‘SEEK TRUTH FROM FACTS’!

    Kind regards

    Penny Bright

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  196. adze (2,057 comments) says:

    You know the perfect word to describe you Penny? Quixotic.

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  197. Nukuleka (291 comments) says:

    Tauhei Notts: I know loads of these chardonnay drinking liberal spinsters-and almost all are Labour voters- have been since their Varsity days and will be forever and a day. Don’t worry about their views. They are NOT representative. They’ve never voted National and never will. And after today’s IMP shambles I would suggest that whatever ‘whaledump’ might come up with no-one much will care. We all know who is behind Hager, and even the MSM is going to get mighty sick of the crap and start concentrating on policy. It’s all onward and upward!

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  198. Jack5 (5,005 comments) says:

    Dame Susan Devoid again shows her unsuitably for the role of Race Commissioner, in the food chain welcome and “kia ora” issue.

    Devoid makes statements about what should be done and what she thinks before there is an inquiry, and the chain’s store manager where the issue arose says there are two sides.

    It’s pretty elementary that when a complaint is launched through the MSM and the other side says there is another side to the story, you get both views, make your decision, and then deliver it.

    Devoid seems to have been “turned” by the Leftist multiculturalists at the commission. Regardless she should not jump the gun by talking before getting the facts and making a reasoned decision.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/maori/news/article.cfm?c_id=252&objectid=11313072

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  199. Nostradamus (3,248 comments) says:

    Rowan:

    Why don’t you run along and nark to DPF and try to get him banned you spineless shit!

    A big fart in your general direction:

    Rowan (1,981 comments) says:
    August 17th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    [DPF: Deleted and 50 demerits]

    What was the deleted comment that got you 50 demerits?

    Recognise this, now who is it that has the obsession with dogs, are you now into bestiality as well as showing girls where to put there fingers!!

    You deserved those demerits – every one of them! :)

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  200. cha (3,919 comments) says:

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  201. Reid (16,179 comments) says:

    Jack, good pickup. I noticed it Friday but didn’t realise Hone had decided to do some cancerous and corrosive hating and wrecking with it.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    Watch for lefty swooning left, right and centre.

    Oh the humanity.

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  202. graham (2,326 comments) says:

    publicwatchdog at 9:58 pm:

    PS: Check out the current Australian Commonwealth Government ‘Code of Conduct’ for Ministers that Prime Minister Kevin Rudd introduced in 2007.

    It confirms that Ministers are prohibited from openly owning shares in any company.

    So – if John Key was the Australian Prime Minister it would be unlawful for him to own shares in the Bank of America, as he currently does here in New Zealand.

    ‘SEEK TRUTH FROM FACTS’!

    Ummm … you may have missed this, Penny, but John Key ISN’T the Australian Prime Minister. So … where’s the problem?

    Answer: there is none.

    Just helping you to see the FACTS … in a caring way.

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  203. IGM (216 comments) says:

    Public Dog is an evil left-wing radical who will get its rates waived, that is the leeching way. Do nothing, provide nothing, envy everything, and leech from the successful.

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