It’s one of the most oft-used arguments put forth by climate deniers: that there has been “no global warming” for the last 17 years, as evidenced by a supposed lack of increase in global average surface temperature.
It’s also one of the most oft-debunked, as overwhelming evidence has shown that most of the heat generated from increased carbon emissions gets absorbed into the ocean, not into the atmosphere. What’s more, scientists believe global temperatures are set to rise rapidly in the face of our increasingly warm and acidic oceans.
“ I think that it speaks to the need for new mechanisms by which citizens can engage with government and play a meaningful role in the processes of governance.” “
Dead right, I suspect that elites would rather control societies self knowledge.
Is it possible to vote twice?
Can non enrolled voters take part? How do we know that 100,000 Chinese didn’t vote?
Chinese buyers in rush to NZ
A website which steers Chinese buyers towards overseas real estate agents says it has seen a huge increase in cashed-up Chinese wanting to buy in New Zealand.
Andrew Taylor, chief executive of Juwai, a website which claims 1.5m users, said New Zealand had jumped from tenth to fifth – climbing countries such as Malaysia and Germany – in a year-on-year chart of where Chinese were pursuing offshore property.
The average buyer on the Juwai website, which steers property hunters towards overseas home advertisements translated into Chinese, had $AU1.6m to spend, and 71 per cent of them were prepared to pay in full in cash.
The so called “bombshell” 5 days before the election is great news for the Nats. Labour and the Greens will get zero media for the most crucial part of the campaign and NZ be presented with the stark choice of stable, responsible government or a left wing outfit manipulated by a ratbag. I think I know which they would choose.
Further fleshing by the National party of their housing policy as they plan to spend mine and your hard earned money on bribes and interfering with the free market by aiming to “stabilise house prices”:
No mention of course of the pressure they have put on house prices with their insane open door immigration and foreign investment policies. No mention of all that in 6 years of power they’ve done sweet FA to do anything of substance to the RMA.
No, like all Socialist governments, they go back to their instinct of Central Planning and control rather than let the free market gradually lower prices so people don’t have to take on as much debt in the first place.
Of course, the last NZ government so intent on micro-managing the economy and fixing prices was also another National Government under Rob Muldoon with his wage & price freezes to control a massive fiscal deficit and the NZ welfare state. Split Enz said “history never repeats” but this time it certainly is.
Where is the National Party’s modern day Ruth Richardson et al. who understood the best thing a government can do is stop interfering in the free market and get out of the way.
So what’s the point of a poll saying that 77% of respondents want tougher controls on foreigners buying land, when there’s precious little evidence that there’s even a basic understanding of the existing controls? When Cunliffe was bleating about Lochinver, he was saying that the OIA regime should provide for certain criteria – without seeming to realise that it already does. The folks at the OIO were facepalming. And the reporting media didn’t disabuse him of his nonsense.
And what’s with this silly expression “tenants in our own land”? Most businesses are quite happily being tenants in their own land. That’s how commercial property markets work.
@ EAD the problem with the free market is that the human economy is a subset of the worlds ecosystem; there is no price on pollution (hence the need to deny dangers of greenhouse gases and to ignore population).
You can’t get around it; what I posted (above) is either true or false. If the market systems of the human economy influence the worlds ecosystem you are off the hook.
When in hell is something going to be done about this Slobcom bastard? He is in cohorts with a drug dealer, and also promoting records to kill the PM and sexually violate his daughter, not to mention consorting with a foul treasonous runaway who is another hacker and charlatan. Surely there is enough here to throw the fat freak out of our country now. He is a security risk, a thief, and dangerous. US needs him greater than us.
See Labour has cancelled the Clayton’s bribes for votes.So called free doctors visits for over 65s yet putting up the retirement age to 67.The so called new workshops for railways in Dunedin?yeah right.Also would be good news if they cancelled the defacto death duty tax,by way of it being disguised under so called no CGT ON FAMILY HOME,is there such a thing as half a lie.No CGT on family home,yet once inherited and on sold CGT WILL BE ASSESSABLE.Hows that for a sneaky tax ambush fuelled by Gomeral Cunliffe.Of course that is par for the course for Labour’s Cunliffe.With his still to be revealed secret slush trust fund,as well as anonymous donors,he speaks with forked tongue.
I’m hoping that this election run-up isn’t the template for future elections. The US elections are ruined by partisan hacks, attack ads, lies and smear campaigns. Ours have been relatively clean by comparison.
Specifically relating to Hagar’s book, I think the effect will be an increased number of people not voting, as they can’t bring themselves to support either side of the political debate. This is a great shame, especially with the variety of different parties vying for the vote.
you actually have an opinion on something other than immigration!!
My retort is that the massive population growth is a function of out of control government. Population growth per se is not necessarily bad, the problem is how rapidly world population has grown as a result of the welfare state which really got going after WWII. With unlimited, backed by nothing fiat money, there is now no need to worry about the responsibility of affording a family as the government will take care of it all whether at home through the welfare state or via “foreign aid” in places like Africa.
In light of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself, Kiwiblog, and perhaps the wider blogosphere.” I am sure this seems like a commendable sentiment at the moment, given you are good friends with Cameron Slater who is at the centre of the firestorm of Dirty Politics. You know what they say: like attracts like.
But let’s leave Dirty Politics out of this letter I am writing to you, as I am sure you are sick of hearing about it – most right-wing leaning people are. And let’s talk about Tania Billingsley:
David, in your blog you said you felt “traumatised” by having you emails hacked by the anonymous hacker who leaked your information to Nicky Hager saying: “While some will take huge pleasure in what has happened, let me say that it is genuinely traumatic to have hacked e-mails to and from yourself”. Do you know what else is traumatising, David? Having some guy follow you home, enter your house, attempt to rape you and then steal items that belong to you from your home.
You must know who I am talking about? In your blog you also spoke about ‘that one time’ when you did not speakup publicly in defence of Tania Billingsley who survived a sexual assault at the hands of a foreign diplomat – who then allegedly burgled her home. Have you ever heard that saying “silence is complicity”, David?
The letter concludes:
It takes conviction and bravery to stand up as a man against rape and violence, and against sexism – especially when it is your friend you are standing up against. We need to create a climate in our culture where when men behave in sexist and violent ways they lose status. You, David Farrar, can begin to do this by calling out Cameron Slater’s sexist and victim-blaming mentality that he has shown time and time again against survivors of assault and rape – this behaviour that was epitomised in his treatment of Tania.
If you find the courage of your convictions and choose to write this blog, you need to know there will be consequences for your words. There is always a backlash, regardless of your gender, when you publicly speak out against sexism and violence. These conversations are polarising and make so many people feel uncomfortable; often they threaten those who benefit from the established order of things. It is likely you will face negative and abusive diatribes from people – this is one of the consequence of speaking out.
But I want you to know David, I will have your back if you write in defence of Tania and in opposition of Cameron Slater’s treatment of her. I want you to know I will stand with you and stand up to those who will attack you for raising your voice against the brutalities of our world – our New Zealand rape culture.
We all make mistakes, David, but what truly defines a person is how they go about fixing them. The time is now. Be brave. Make a stand. Please, be that guy.
It turns down plenty. Go to the OIO site and read the summaries. Also read the criteria for grant.
BTW. It turned down dotcom on three occasions at least. Hasn’t stopped him buying the electoral process and possibly even a government though.
I was phoned last night to take part in a political poll, he asked for me by name. When I inquired who the poll was for all I got was Someone from Wellington but not able to say (as I expected).
We were half way through the questions, for which I had answered nearly all National as my preference as being the best option for the economy/country when he asked “Do you want me to complete the rest of the questions for you with National”. I told him I needed to considered the questions first! Bloody cheek!
Is this the appropriate way to take questions for a political poll? I got the feeling he wasn’t impressed with my voting preference
There’s a lot more to the Billingsley business than meets the eye. The diplomat when rejected waited outside for the police and yet he is alleged to have burgled her home – which Chloe King takes to mean he stole stuff. Burglary means to enter a place with the intention of committing a crime. Isn’t this the sense of the police statement? Deliberately ambiguous?
I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened because I don’t think the man will ever set foot here again. Was she talking to him before he followed her home? For example…
@ IGM – Good observation! I hadn’t even considered the publishing house in the mix, what publisher & editor in their right mind would print that kind of unbalanced and non-fact-checked drivel masquerading as investigative journalism. They will have done all right in the short term making a quick buck on book sales, but at a loss of their reputation. Who was it who printed it so I can avoid purchasing their books in the future?
We would also have accepted another American usage now increasingly common in NZ ‘felt violated by having e mails hacked’.
How ridiculous – when you use language – there’s no implied meaning of your words in ranking order of severity when compared with how a word might be used to describe some other event that is totally unrelated to events in your own experience.
” Who was it who printed ["Dirty Politics"] so I can avoid purchasing their books in the future?”
Have you ever actually read a book? The information you seek can be found on the title page. But you might need to figure out the difference between a publisher and printer. Hint – a publisher often uses more than one printer, especially in the case of a wildly popular book.
So talking to someone gives them the right to ‘follow’ you home and behave in a manner that allows someone to believe their safety is at risk – sufficiently so that the Police were prepared to lay charges?
Chloe King obviously knows more about the Billingsley affair than we do.
Where does she get all the details from as they have not been put into the public view ?
Must assume therefore that she is part of the deep Feminist movement.
I read Hagers book yesterday. I had a fair idea what to expect but the sheer vileness it contained was beyond belief. Reading the correspondence between a Minister in government and that odious pig Slater made me sick. If you have not read the book I suggest you do, if you feel that this sort of politics is Ok and that as a nation that is where we are going, then this country will end up at war with each other. The thing is that National went about this with Keys hand firmly on the helm. He is the architect of this sorry mess and no amount of deflection and “I dunnos” wave and smiles will not make it go away. Key need to front up and be the statesman he purports to be, read the book, sack Collins and publicly denounce that snivelling odious piece of shit Slater.
The Labour Party Channel night after night hosts a so called political reporter called Corrin Dann.Must be something wrong with him as he forever puts the boot into John Key or National Government every chance he gets.Hope he is well as he looks the colour of bad shit,maybe because he is full of mad dog shit.Lie-bour Party seem to imbed their future MPs in the anti National” news ” channel TVNZ.
Dennis – your knowledge of burglary and of ‘rape culture’ (note that Dennis raised the term) could do with some work.
Incorrect. The term ‘rape culture’ was in the article you posted, in the penultimate paragraph:
But I want you to know David, I will have your back if you write in defence of Tania and in opposition of Cameron Slater’s treatment of her. I want you to know I will stand with you and stand up to those who will attack you for raising your voice against the brutalities of our world – our New Zealand rape culture.
Well Mike Me, you should see some of the stuff in my private email (I’m pretty sure Dotcom hasn’t got to me yet). Did you feel dirty reading some one else’s private email? Do you feel ashamed as a voyeur? Did you feel disgusted that the $35 you paid for that private property went to a snivelling Marxist intent on affecting the outcome of a democratic election? Did you recognise that not a single thing revealed by said snivelling Marxist is illegal? How did you feel about being complicit in the breach of someone else’s privacy rights? Would you like it to happen to you?
@ Ashley Schaeffer (438 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:03 am
I think the Vote Compass has probably made the mistake of believing that everyone has enough intelligence to know that if the government is funding something that requires such a large amount, then the source is going to be from general taxation.
@Milk Me – The holier than thou hypocrisy of you lefties is stunning. Your dearest pollies play down and dirty with the best of them, plot, scheme, backstab and deal with people on the fringes all the time. Talk about a melodrama.
Oh yeah _ I forgot – it’s only bad when the centre-right does it.
graham – what do you think of the way Dennis is playing down the potential severity of the alleged charges to the extent of suggesting there wasn’t any offence committed and even suggesting the alleged victim could be the one to blame?
What would you call that, considering it’s not an uncommon line that’s been followed here and is similar to what Whale Oil strongly promoted?
“Here is an opportunity for all the Greens and Labour people who oppose foreign investment …”
What I am starting to wonder is exactly what the Greens and Labour people mean when they say “Foreign” investment. Does it include, or exclude, people who have just got off the plane and gained residency? Some of the recent news and comments seem to imply that, for some people at least, it does ie “foreigners” crowding “first home buyers” (in Herne Bay and Ponsonby of course) out of the market.
@ Rich Prick (1,609 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:13 am
Do you think Cameron Slater felt any of those things when he was reading the emails from private Labour members to the Party, or perhaps their credit card details etc – which he had the option NOT to open? Do you think he felt that way when he got the 28 GB’s of data from a business including emails etc ? Do you think he felt the least bit bad about the stuff he wrote about Bronwyn Pullar, knowing she was a private person, or even a public person of the calibre of Justice Binnie, who he also decided to dig dirt on? Do you think that there is some sort of exclusion zone for the Right when they employ the same tactics that make theirs more respectable?
It is dirty politics all round, and your side is not excluded.
Are Kiwibloggers aware that NOBODY did any ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the NZ International Convention Centre (or – as I prefer to call it – the Sky City Money-Laundering)Act?
The list of those who failed to do ANY ‘due diligence’ included Prime Minister John Key, Minister for Economic Development Steven Joyce, the Organised and Financial Crime Agency of New Zealand (OFCANZ), Auckland Council and Auckland Central Police?
I have the paper trail to prove this.
And when I asked NZ Auditor-General Lyn Provost to carry out an inquiry into why OFCANZ had failed to do ‘due diligence’ on this matter – given that helping to stop money-laundering is the main part of their job description – she declined to so do – but failed to disclose one tiny technical point – that she was at that time (and still is – as I understand) a shareholder in Sky City!
Judith, Slater, whatever you might think of him, did not hack nor steal a thing. What is more, unlike Hager, he redacted all personal information and did not publish any of it. Get off your high horse.
@ jackinabox (750 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:22 am
If Joe Karam has a least a few of the OIA’s that I have received on that matter directly from Ms Collin’s office, he will not need to read the book to know that Nicky Hager’s ‘Dirty Politics’ has a great deal of truth. I suspect however he will keep what he might have private until the Judicial Review, where he will be able to prove with that evidence that Judith Collins did not follow due practise, acted entirely inappropriately and basically wipe the floor with Ms Collins integrity, or should I say, lack of it.
@ Rich Prick (1,610 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:25 am
Cameron Slater received 28GB of hacked data, which makes him no better than Nicky Hager. Cameron Slater also had the choice of NOT opening the data he found at the Labour Party Site, and rather doing the right thing and informing them of the leak – and posting only about that after the event – still being able to paint them as incompetent but not giving others the ability to read that private information that was inadvertently revealed in ‘back up files’.
He had the choice of doing the right thing, or being an asshole. He chose to be the latter. He deserves to be treated accordingly.
Are you deliberately trying to be an idiot, or does it come naturally?
You have correctly identified that I mean the publisher rather than the printer, but I can think of less dick-ish ways of pointing out the error. I have no intention of picking up Hagar’s book to check the publisher details, the less attention it gets the better. I would feel physically dirty just from touching it much less inspecting its contents in detail.
@ OneTrack (2,767 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:27 am
Cameron Slater didn’t publish them, but he gave the public directions of how to find them – he chose to do that – he didn’t have to. That makes him a sleeze.
Nicky Hager didn’t publish the emails – he published some of what was in them and protected private individuals, publishing only the names of those involved. Slater was not so mindful – he provided people with the information to see everything and everyone.
Browyn Pullar was a private person until Slater got hold of her name – and changed that status for her.
So please, stop trying to make out there is a moral difference, there isn’t except that Slater doesn’t care who he destroys – from his own words!.
Have you read the book Rich Nob?.. Probably can’t afford the $34.95….. Available at Whitcolls NOW!
And waffle on all you like about Labour and Greens did this and that, I can assure you (to those who have their heads firmly stuck in the sand) that the depths that the National ministers and their staff have plunged to is new in NZ politics is abhorrent. that it has happened and firm steps must be taken to ensure that it never happens again. We do not need this sort of filth in our democracy and anyone that says different is only fooling themselve or is a psychopathic arsehole like Slater and Key have proven themselves to be.
Oh yeah, please stop calling me a leftie people, if you know me you also know that I am most certainly not a leftie, however I do stand for fairness and equality. Lefties don’t drive gas guzzling Audi V8s. Brrrmmmmm.
The jury is out on how Slater received the Blomfield data. It’s suggested that one of Blomfields ex business partners gave him their computer which had all the info on it. Slater is trying to protect that person. So suggesting it was “hacked” is just not true. Whistleblower more like.
As for the Labour Party website , saying he had the choice of not looking at data which was open and available to all is just ludicrous. I am sure that if the same stuff up had appeared on the Nats web site the Left would be in, trotters and all.
Mike Me, you certainly sound like a leftie, but we might give you the benefit of doubt. I have absolutely no intention of reading anything written by that snivelling Marxist, let alone paying for the “privilege”. Audi V8 huh, that’s reasonably OK, well done.
Sorry Milk boy
How about Chardonnay Socialist?
Are you really suggesting that Politicians are going to stop leaking to journalists? Hahahahaah, youre so fucking naive.
And even worse, if you think only the Nats ever did it. What are you, twelve?
@ All_on_Red (1,475 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:40 am
Whether that information was ‘taken’ as in stolen by an employee or hacked directly by an independent person, it was still ‘stolen goods’. Slater had no right to information, legally or morally. Trying to make out that the two (Hager/Slater) are different, only matters in the manner in which they were gained – both illegally.
For some reason though (and its plainly obvious why) people insist on dealing with how the information was sourced, rather that what that information, which isn’t denied, actually says about what is occurring. I believe there is a concerted attempt to draw the subject away from what we now know, and keep focusing it on the ‘how’ rather than than the ‘why & what’.
Great attempts, and you are all doing well, but those that have read the book are not blind sided by your attempts.
@ Rich Prick (1,613 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:47 am
I don’t enjoy anything you write, even when you’re sloshing about in the mud as you are now – I have never seen you in full flight and doubt if you could even get off the ground, as far as I am concerned – but one this is for sure – even when you are flying, it would only ever be with one wing, so all you would and could do, was go in circles, eventually finding your beak up your own ass.
The Whaledump Twitter handle carries the address 3 Hans Cres – the address of the Ecuadorian embassy in London where Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is exiled.
It is hosted on Dotcom’s mega.co.nz
Kim Dotcom has announced he will feature Julian Assange by video link in his Town Hall self promotion five days out from the election.
Did Whaledump know in advance of Dotcom’s plans to involve Julian Assange?
Just a little point?
@ twofish (81 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 9:53 am
The address has become synonymous with ‘hacking’ and has been used throughout the world by many people who employ it in humour, to get bites (such as you have just done) and/or to offer support to Assange. I wouldn’t be too distracted by it. The hacker is very good at giving false leads, such as his present ‘on holiday in Vanuatu’ status.
Just 25 days till the election. It comes down to a simple choice. Do you want a John Key led National government that continues to grow the economy and improve the lives of the people in so many areas? Do you want a bunch of losers squabbling whilst the economy goes back into recession and their sole focus is on stopping DoT Con being extradited?
And if growing the economy is borrowing $80 billion, and they were soooo lucky those earthquakes hit and stimulated the economy, apart from that under this present government they have taken us backwards 20 years. (again)
Surely “Vote Compass” is electioneering by TVNZ.
As it is slanted anti National Government should it be costed to the so called opposition five equally for Election spending.
Personally I feel that the whole thing is politically most unwise by left wing TVNZ.
Got some stupid people behind it.
THE European Court of Justice ruled yesterday that the European Union can lawfully suppress political criticism of its institutions and of leading figures, sweeping aside English Common Law and 50 years of European precedents on civil liberties.
The EU’s top court found that the European Commission was entitled to sack Bernard Connolly, a British economist dismissed in 1995 for writing a critique of European monetary integration entitled The Rotten Heart of Europe.
The ruling stated that the commission could restrict dissent in order to “protect the rights of others” and punish individuals who “damaged the institution’s image and reputation”. The case has wider implications for free speech that could extend to EU citizens who do not work for the Brussels bureaucracy.
I heard Turei this morning stating that they Greens do nothing unethical in Parliament.
I have talked to a couple of the Press Gallery and they have told me that the Greens are the best party in terms of subterfuge in revealing information to them.
And the Press Gallery fall for it every time, so it does not looked leaked from the Greens.
@ Fisiani (987 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 10:36 am
Just because you personally cannot think of one, doesn’t mean they don’t exist in parliament.
I prefer not to use internet based examples but in the interests of ‘not being interested enough to type out a very lengthy explanation’ this C & P will be suffice.
#1) Sociopaths are charming. Sociopaths have high charisma and tend to attract a following just because people want to be around them. They have a “glow” about them that attracts people who typically seek guidance or direction.
#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people. They tend to do bizarre, sometimes erratic things that most regular people wouldn’t do.
#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse. Their brains simply lack the circuitry to process such emotions. This allows them to betray people. They pursue any action that serves their own self interest even if it seriously harms others. This is why you will find many very “successful” sociopaths in high levels of government, in any nation.
#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences. They wildly exaggerate things to the point of absurdity, but when they describe it to you in a storytelling format, for some reason it sounds believable at the time.
#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and “win” at all costs. They hate to lose any argument or fight and will viciously defend their web of lies, even to the point of logical absurdity.
#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them. Their high IQs often makes them dangerous.
#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving. They may feign love or compassion in order to get what they want, but they don’t actually FEEL love in the way that you or I do.
#8) Sociopaths speak poetically. They are master wordsmiths, able to deliver a running “stream of consciousness” monologue
#9) Sociopaths never apologize. They are never wrong. They never feel guilt. They can never apologize. Even if shown proof that they were wrong, they will refuse to apologize and instead go on the attack.
#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth
Griff, well you know where I stand on that – whether there is global warming or not is a good question – whether it is human caused is another. I believe the answer to the latter is no, and even if we had caused it, there is nothing we can do about it.
My link above was more to point out that even scientists who believe in AGW also believe that there is indeed a “pause”, which Yoza obviously disputes based on his comment and link.
“Further fleshing by the National party of their housing policy as they plan to spend mine and your hard earned money on bribes and interfering with the free market by aiming to “stabilise house prices””
In an ideal world, We would have a libertarian government. The reality is a large numbers of people can’t handle a true free market. They need help to buy a house. The state has the resources so why not use them. I would prefer to see the state help by housing a family. Than waste millions on entertaining the populace. For example
New Zealand on air, National radio , TV1,2, subsidizing TV3, Team NZ, NZ Ballet,The NZ symphony orchestra. Etc etc
Keep in mind the fact only about 20% of the population pay tax in real terms.
The coalition of losers supporters. will have there wallet out for this election. They also believe it there god given right to spend there life sucking of the state tit. Such is life under a socialist Government.
I notice that there is a sci-fi movie called Snowpiercer that flicks.co.nz says is out soon. In the movie the idiots in power spray a chemical called CW7 into the atmosphere to combat global warming, bringing the global temperature down to “manageable levels”. Instead, it causes another ice-age and freezes the world. The last earth survivors are doomed to live in a train perpetually circling the frozen Earth.
This is the opening credit sequence expository dialogue during the opening credit sequence that tells how the earth got like it is – https://vimeo.com/90408355
Mark Mitchell, an ex-policeman who set us a “security” business that employs Special Services and Intelligence Specialists, is well connected with the SIS. There is evidence that Mark Mitchell’s relationship with Cameron Slater is quite different from that of Judith Collins. Mark is quiet. Watch him.
I can’t take that Vote Compass seriously with questions like: “The government should restore free tertiary education.”
This is either an example of the Left controlling the language or people conducting a survey who have no skills to do so.
So right. One only needs to read that question to know the people who composed it have shit for brains.
I don’t participate in that other “political quiz” thing either where all the progs come back crowing about how they’re “libertarians etc”. Most of the questions are so falsely premised they’re laughable.
WAS wondering why you have kept quiet on the filthy song, from the filthy warblers, who have been advocating illicit sex with the daughter of our Prime Minister.Now if that was about that mouthpiece woman promoted by the” GreenTaleban party” about an ALLEGED type of rape from an Diplomatic employee.I am sure people like you, and the womens rape crisis would be getting headlines,why is there so much selective morality from half crazed lefftos.
Judith (8,282 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
23 Days – how to influence so many people in such a short time?
I can only guess you’re talking about the upcoming election (in 25 days, but take a couple of days off if you like).
Maybe you should have started earlier, like I did. Young people are great to talk to about who they’re voting for. I find a lot of them weren’t going to vote because they just didn’t give a shit, but it usually turns out they don’t agree with at least one of the opposition parties.
I guess it’s a bit unfair that way, divide and conquer works best when there’s so many small factions and their only common ground is they hate John Key.
In fact the Key-hating seems to turn off a lot of people I talk to. They don’t want to be haters.
You may know more haters than me though.
RightNow (6,829 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
Goodness me no – the result of our election is already known, its just the finer details yet to be decided.
Nope, I’m worried about Scotland (18 September) – that result is a little less certain – but in the long run, sentimentally it means far more than our election – unless we got some extreme result, I’m not likely to be overtly influenced by whoever wins here.
@ RightNow (6,830 comments) says:
August 26th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Financially, probably not the best for them, although I don’t believe it would make it a lot worse, and in the long run may even benefit them. But I cannot think of another nation that is more deserving of their independence (at least the nations under my radar). Despite the length of time, for some Scots, independence is as important to them today, as it was back in 1314 at Bannockburn. For that reason, I am in favour of Independence – but that’s easy to say when I’m only an occasional visitor and even if my ancestry is rooted firmly on the side of independence – I don’t have to live with the consequences of it.
Thankyou for such a prompt reply.Great to see you mention a member of a politicians family,usually not to attack family members.Yet as I have said,and still say where are Womens Refuge Rape crisis advocates,or the Green Taleban mouth pieces,perhaps there is no political gain from the screaming holier than thou mouthpieces who were and are still very vehement on the ALLEGED rape on a” greenie” by a foreign diplomatic employee.Seems ironical a person like you and a” mere male”,is abhorred by the filthy inference against John Key’s daughter.I commend and respect your concern.
By popular demand Asenati Lole-Taylor has been dropped to 16 on the NZ First list.
More debatable is Andrew Williams who seems to have been dropped altogether.
1. Rt Hon Winston Peters
2. Tracey Martin
3. Richard Prosser
4. Fletcher Tabuteau
5. Barbara Stewart
6. Clayton Mitchell
7. Denis O’Rourke
8. Pita Paraone
9. Ron Mark
10. Darroch Ball
11. Mahesh Bindra
12. Ria Bond
13. Mataroa Paroro
14. Romuald Rudzki
15. Jon Reeves
16. A Lole- Taylor
At least they don’t just give preference to all the sitting MPs.
Incidentally, nincompoop that you are, or ignoramus, or liar, Assange has not been charged. He is wanted for questioning for attempted rape, which was that he had intercourse with one woman without a condom and “started” on the other woman before she was fully awake. Both women entertained him in their homes for some time after the “offences” before they met each other… The subsequent vindictive complaints were dismissed by the city prosecutor. The CIA or someone had to find a feminist prosecutor somewhere out of town. Assange offered himself for interview in London but the Swedes said they couldn’t do that. Complete lies, they’ve interviewed others outside Sweden. To repeat, he has not been charged with rape.
PS. You wouldn’t be related to Garth George and Ian George, would you?
Judith. Disappointed, Judith, disappointed. You just can’t help getting the wrong end of the stick, can you, so you can argue and nitpick. I don’t condone rape but I do think there’s two sides to every story and what one person might misinterpret as encouragement and politely back off another might call attempted rape. Especially if it suited her purpose. You see, Judith, I don’t know what happened. We probably won’t know what happened. What we do know is she wasn’t raped. Personally I don’t see how a man can rape a woman without leaving bruises and other signs of a struggle unless he has a gun or a knife or whatever but that’s another argument.
To seek the truth and listen to both parties is not to condone rape nor is it to be part of a rape culture.
The Malaysion diplomat faces burglary and sexual assault charges. The two chargers could be related as per our laws burglary doesn’t have to involve theft, just any imprisonable offence
(1)Every one commits burglary and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 10 years who—
(a)enters any building or ship, or part of a building or ship, without authority and with intent to commit an imprisonable offence in the building or ship; or
(b)having entered any building or ship, remains in it without authority and with intent to commit an imprisonable offence in the building or ship.
Pete George (23,216 comments) says: August 26th, 2014 at 8:31 am. [Chloe King] … Having some guy follow you home, enter your house, attempt to rape you and then steal items that belong to you from your home.
You really are thick, Pete. I was merely pointing out that the charge of burglary does not necessarily mean stealing but that’s how Chloe King had read it. Hence I gave a definition which is quite correct. Isn’t it? But you told me I didn’t know what I was talking about.
If the CIA are not behind the Assange business, then who had the resources to scour the country to find someone somewhere prepared to prosecute the fictitious case? Why can’t he be interviewed in England, as others have? Assange has not been charged with rape, he is wanted for questioning for attempted rape, which in this case is not what is meant as attempted rape in the UK or here. In fact, I believe he hasn’t been charged at all. He can only be extradited because there is some funny EU law that allows movement between countries as between cities.
You have the same effect on me as Garth George and Ian George; must be hereditary. Sanctimonious nincompoop clutching at straw rapists.
Pete George. You are an idiot. I said woman. Since when has a child been deemed a woman?
I am talking about raping a normal woman in everyday circumstances without leaving signs of a struggle. I am not talking about someone unconscious or near so. That is a special case where she is deemed unable to give consent, whether she has or not.
What about a large man versus a small 16 year old girl/woman?
As far too common as it is rape isn’t “in everday circumstances”.
An unconscious person is unable to give consent, even if she writes and signs a note in advance.
Do you really consider that “no visible sign” is on it’s own a defence against rape? Would the sign of being distraught afterwards be a visible enough sign? Or are you just talking about physical assault type signs?
No need for a gun or knife to effect rape Dennis. It can even be subjective to a person’s history. ie previously raped, child abuse, age, experience, any number of factors, sexual orientation. Someone brought up to be entirely subservient to others compared to someone who was ie a feminist.
People will have allowed themselves to be raped to avoid harm to others even. Threats of violence are as real as actual violence, why wouldn’t a person minimise inevitable harm.
When a bank is held up it is usually the threat of harm not actual harm that nets the robber money.
For women especially, and I would say less nowadays than before, sex was such a taboo subject that it amazes me that women were expected to be chaste one day and then available the next based on a wedding ceremony, but we still do have wider societal sentiments regarding virgin and whore and often not much in between.
Some women are flattered my male attention, others of us not so much now that we are older lol but then others of us older ones are still glad that ‘we still have it’ whatever ‘it’ is.
In modern times I think there is a general expectation that women are more available for sex than in times gone by. I personally blame the sexual revolution and I do not consider that it did women any favours but purely made ‘sex’ more available to men, so much so that now there is an ‘expectation’, do not however read in that, that I believe the ‘rape culture’ cry.
Long story short, rape is rape, with or without battery..
Personally I don’t see how a man can rape a woman without leaving bruises and other signs of a struggle unless he has a gun or a knife or whatever but that’s another argument.
I’ll repeat myself. Personally I don’t see how a man can rape a woman without leaving bruises and other signs of a struggle unless he has a gun or a knife or whatever but that’s another argument.
1. I have never tried to rape a woman, or a man, or a child, or a goat, but such experience as I have had is that it wouldn’t be that easy to have intercourse with a normal woman if she was determined not to. That’s why I said “personally”.
2. That’s another argument. And that’s why I’m not going to argue. Especially when you drag up special cases to make the general case. That we have a rape culture.
New Zealand is not a rape culture, either in comparison with other societies or in absolute terms.
I have read many of your 20,000 (JHConB) plus contributions. Some are sensible.
But of late, your are off your rocker.
Go back to bed (without your laptop).
Pete Dunne, somewhat a friend of mine, will be re-elected.
So come back to the present.
In other words, STFU
Pete George. I’m not surprised you misunderstand what I say. You can’t read. I said: New Zealand is not a rape culture.
Clearly there are some people who commit rape, but as far as I know only barristers defend it. So New Zealand is not a rape culture. Nor does it have a widespread rape culture, outside the gangs anyway.
I do not condone rape but I am not going to jump on the bandwagon that you seem to be in the team drawing. Neigh, neigh, neigh.
Usually a physical examination of the vaginal area can determine if rape has occurred. I can’t recall the exact description of the indicators but the difference between willing and unwilling can be determined.
But, I have to say, I don’t think we have a rape culture in NZ. Boofhead culture (oxymoron?)yes.
I have not read and will not read Hager’s Dirty Politics book. Tom Barker asked the question of who published the book and an easy internet search showed them to be Craig Potton Publishing of Nelson. With Vote Compass on TV1’s website has anybody noticed the Electoral Commissions logo on the bottom as one of the sponsors. How can this organisation be a part of a questionnaire that may sway some voters. They have rules of what you can do and what you cannot do. One of them is that any organisation can’t put anything in the public domain that may influence voting. One of the questions shown by TV1 was about “will the Dirty Politics book influence your vote” or something like that. How can this be one of the questions as the designer of Vote Compass is not a New Zealander and someone has influenced him to have this question included. What next!
Talking of rape culture – GD’s taken a fair old raping so far today. I liked the moral compass bit though – you know what they say about a stopped clock. And then the dime comeback. Good funhole when you don’t deserve a real one.
The thing about rape is that the male doesn’t have to have ejaculated. Simple penetration and then even partial penetration with the penis is also defined as rape. Therefore, physical evidence alone does not always provide confirmation.
Technically even if a male attempts/begins penetration and withdraws when told to, the rape has already occurred. The Crimes act defines rape as penetration with the penis…
Christ I haven’t been on Kiwiblog for a while and I come back and Pistol Pete George is pontificating and calling us all Rapists again…
That’s a total misrepresentation of anything I’ve said here, I haven’t done that at all, so why try and frame it like that? It’s obviously a topic some here have a lot of trouble understanding or talking about, so they fall back on making things up in attacks.
That’s a total misrepresentation of anything I’ve said here, I haven’t done that at all
Yes you have Pete and WTF is wrong with you that you don’t get this, it’s not rocket science. Let me capitalise it so you may understand and if not, at least you can’t be accused of not knowing what the issue is.
JUST BECAUSE A FEW JUDGES GRANT SOME SEXUAL OFFENDERS NAME SUPPRESSION UNDER DUBIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH INDEED MANY COMPLAIN ABOUT, DOES NOT REPEAT NOT REPEAT NOT REPEAT NOT REPEAT NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEAN EVERY SINGLE MAN IN NZ IS PART OF A “RAPE CULTURE.”
AND IF YOU DON’T THINK YOU ARE ACCUSING EVERY SINGLE MAN IN NZ OF PRECISELY THAT EVERY TIME YOU CONJOIN THE WORDS “RAPE” AND “CULTURE,” THEN LOOK UP THE MEANING OF THE WORD CULTURE.
Like I said Pete, it’s not rocket science.
Hope that helps, but seriously doubt it will.
And BTW, I know you don’t mean to accuse every single man in the country apart presumably from yourself, of being part of a rape culture; yes, I know that. But just cos you don’t mean to do it Pete, does not mean that you’re not doing it.
Reid, this is fairly basic – as much as some here may like it to ‘culture’ doesn’t apply the same to everyone in a country. It doesn’t even apply the same to everyone in a city, or a town, or rural New Zealand.
‘Binge drinking culture’ doesn’t mean everyone in the country is an alcoholic.
‘Dirty politics culture’ doesn’t mean every MP, every politician, every political activist or every party member practices or supports dirty politics – in fact far from it.
Stuff such as above won’t help your blood pressure!
I just use the caps lock Johnboy and then relax. It’s quite tranquil, a bit like whipping the slaves along via the use of another special whipping slave while you lounge around in the deck chair with a drink with an umbrella in it casually pointing and waving at the next slave who looks like he needs a bit of “encouragement.”
Or was that TMI?
Reid, this is fairly basic
Why yes it is Pete and hasn’t it occurred to you that as much as the wowsers and the woofters try to pretend it so, fact is we don’t have a binge drinking culture and we don’t have a dirty politics culture, etc? Of course a few people do. Just cos a few woolly woofters allege it’s a culture don’t make it so.
Daffodils are earlier than usual in Dunedin too, and for the fourth winter in a row we’ve had significantly less frost.
Yeah it’s been a bit cosier up Auckland way these last few years but considering the oceans have been sequestering most of the recent heat retention I’d say those nice warming touches may soon become deadly.
Telling us that the sea ice is disappearing in Antarctica?
…. look over there a squirrel.
I am sure he knows about the sea ice winter extent expanding at 1.5% a decade. just like he will know arctic sea ice is retreating at 14% decade.
Are you sure he didn’t actually mention the land ice ?
Glacial retreat around the world . ice sheets melting, snow lines getting higher all leading to sea level rise
Antarctic sea ice will almost all melt again this summer just like it always does.
“……considering the oceans have been sequestering most of the recent heat retention….”
That is the ocean water that is warmed up by the atmosphere, which hasn’t warmed for the last 17 years, and is sequestered under the colder water, contrary to the laws of physics, to depths where we can’t measure the temperature?
Well done other Andy you have shown us how confused about the facts you are.]
Ignore all surface records because you dont like what they say instead take only the satellite measurement .
the atmosphere has warmed and cooled
The surface has warmed according to our global temperature records http://skepticalscience.com/trend.php
The stratosphere has cooled according to derived satellite measurements. http://images.remss.com/msu/msu_time_series.html
This shows the earth has continued to gain energy at an increasing rate.
Ocean heat content has continued to climb http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/
The specific heat of water is many times that of air 92%odd of the energy goes into the world oceans . This has been accelerating specifically at a depth between 700 and 2000 meters…. global warming is increasing ….
While someone like you in denial likes to focus only on cherry picked snippets of information that confirms your bais and ignores all else
Fisiani – “No matter what the trading positions are a Green/Labour/IM/Winston First government would make them far worse.”
Green/Labour/Internet/Mana/Winston First government you mean. Once the lefties have finished their rort in Te Tai Tokerau (6 minutes after the election closes), IM will break up into their two separate parties again. How convenient! Play safe and try not to get your body in between a lefty and their lust to be behind the Treasury benches. Otherwise you might lose an arm or something.
Give it up Griff, noone with any critical faculties believes in catastrophic AGW anymore.
-Yes the climate is warming, but it is only around 0.7-1°C per century, since 19th century. Not accelerating, not a problem
-Yes the sea is rising but only at about 2-300mm/century, unchanged since 19th century. Not accelerating, not a problem.
-It seems likely that climate sensitivity to CO2 is low around 1-2°C increase per doubling – not the ridiculously high figures touted by IPCC (up to a max of 8-10 at one stage, but steadily dropping during this generation long climb-down).
-Yes Arctic sea ice is near low for last 40 years, but there is no data from pre-1970, so no telling if this is unusual, though we do know that for large parts of the holocene (last 12000 years) the climate was warmer than present, with smaller glaciers, and less arctic ice cover (holocene era drift wood and trees is found under now-permanent ice).
-The scare has been manufactured by model fitting to faster rising global temps during the upward temp swing of the natural PDO/AMO oceanic circulation cycles.
-Global climate models have demonstrated no skill in prediction of future or past climate. The assumptions they embody have been falsified by real world data and scientists not dependent upon catastrophic warming gravy train admit this.
-Troublingly the models have no ability to deal with key fundamental physical processes like the very subtle turbulent convective heat transfer effects of oceans or atmosphere, and will probably never be able to model the intricate convective heat transfer issues presented by clouds.
-Fossil fuels will likely taper off in use towards middle of century as we get cheaper options like nuclear, solar and possibly fusion putting an end to further CO2 rises and consequent warming.
Climate science of the last generation will in future serve as the historical benchmark for bad/political science, the dangers of groupthink, dangers of noble cause corruption, dangers of allowing zealots to restrict dialogue/who is heard/published, dangers of funding systems that reward millennialist doomsayers, dangers of science driven by zealotry, and dangers of science being used as an excuse to accrete political power.
Cut and paste queen
why dont you give a source?
Answer its a bogus list from some wingnut blog with obviously bullshit included … WUWT climate depot gwpf or some such echo chamber blog. They all re post the same old rubbish for the gullible like you.
There is strong evidence that global sea level is now rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century. While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.
Where did 8 to 10 c come from its not in any IPCC report …… straw man
Sea ice there is no data from pre-1970 http://nsidc.org/data/seaice/field.html
We do have records going back to 1750 for most of the arctic , whaling records for last century in the antarctic also satellite photos from the sixties. among others.
Model fitting the old models are broken canard: Models if given the present variables in solar energy ,volcanoes, soi etc get the present temperatures correct .
group think? have a look in the mirror buddy
When a whole bunch of right wingers reject a entire discipline of science because they dont like the conclusions and then source rubbish from blogs rather than actually accessing the experts.
We have people on here who deny the greenhouse effect and clam massive conspiracy of evil scientist reality is to much for some
Climate change denial will be a benchmark for political belief overriding reality and the ability of well funded campaigns in misdirection to subvert the political process
Many New Zealanders overseas are looking at how to vote .
Google up ” vote NZ 2014″ , or similar.
Its a bit of a squeeze, I think we can vote only in the 20 days after September 01
The web site tells us how to enroll but not how to vote
Have a look at the Herald’s advice to young voters in thsi morning’s paper. I looked in vain for the Green/Labour Party authorisation but could not find it. Advertising like that would have cost them a fortune!