Dom Post on extremism and free speech

October 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

The Dom Post Editorial:

Few things are more abhorrent than the extreme Right and those who perpetuate its thuggish philosophies.

I always wonder why they are called extreme right, as invariably such groups support protectionism and left-wing economic policies. Take the BNP whose economic policies are:

  • anti foreign investment
  • wants the subordination of the power of the City to the power of the government
  • self sufficiency in food production
  • is critical of corporatism and big capitalism
  • seeks to reduce income inequality

The arrival in the Hutt Valley of supporters of the far-Right National Front, Right wing Resistance and New Zealand Nationalist Alliance at the weekend is only slightly more concerning. With their truncated version of the Nazi symbol, skinheads and their sparsely-attended parade through Wellington’s streets, they succeeded only in demonstrating they are inconsequential and have no support in New Zealand.


An anti-racism campaigner was appalled that a holiday park allowed the groups to stay. However, the alternative – allowing discrimination on the grounds of political belief – would not only be illegal, it would also be a difficult concept for many New Zealanders to swallow.

There is a sensible middle group. Don’t discriminate on the basis of membership or belief, but hell if I owned a holiday park, and you started waving a swastika about, you’d be gone.

More difficult to resolve is the debate raging in Britain over whether British National Party leader Nick Griffin should have been given a slot on the BBC’s Question Time programme. Those who believe he should not, argue that it gave his whites-only party an undeserved aura of political respectability. They claim 3000 expressed interest in joining the party just before and after the appearance.

BBC bosses argue that, as a state broadcaster, the corporation has to cover all political parties with a national presence – something it judges the BNP to have achieved because, though it has no MPs at Westminster, in European parliamentary elections this year it won two seats with just under a million votes.

The BBC is right in principle and in practice. A principled democracy cannot simply silence views that the majority disagree with.

Absolutely.  And a state broadcaster especially must not censor minority views.

In practice, Mr Griffin’s appearance has simply revealed his politics for the illogical farrago of prejudices they are. He floundered over whether he denied the Holocaust had taken place and defended the Ku Klux Klan as “almost totally non-violent”.

Griffin tries to pretend that he is now merely a defended of indigenous Brits. He is a former National Front member (he joined at age 14) and not only is he a Holocaust denier, he even criticised David Irving for admitting the number of Jews who died may be up to four million. He has also praised the Waffen SS and ironically attacked the RAF for its bombing of Nazi Germany.

He has also attempted to form an Alliance with Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini!

There is no room for complacency about those who preach the politics of hate, but the way to deal with them is to confront them and expose their policies to the unblinking light of reason. The alternative – pretending they do not exist – simply feeds their conspiracy theories and allows their distortions to grow unchallenged.

Again – I agree. One reason I publish regular updates on the National Front and its various splinter groups.

The right to privacy

October 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm by David Farrar

The Herald reports:

A detailed membership list for the far-right British National Party has been leaked, revealing that the white supremacist party’s influence reaches as far as New Zealand.

The list, which contains 16,000 names, many with contact details, was published on the website Wikileaks. Three New Zealanders appeared on the list.

xxxxx  from Glenfield, said he had been a member of BNP for six years and was not fazed by his details being made public.

The leadership of the BNP are nasty pieces of work, but I don’t approve of publishing the names and addresses of members of the BNP. People may have joined up on the spot many years ago after attending a meeting before getting to know more about them. Or yes they may fully back the BNP as one gentleman quoted does. But regardless political party membership is essentially a private matter and I think it is regrettable that people have ben hounded over their membership.

It is a slippery slope between that, and revealing who people voted for in an election.

BBC right to include BNP

October 21st, 2009 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

The ODT reports:

To the outrage of many Britons, a white-supremacist fringe party riding a wave of electoral success has been invited to participate in a BBC prime-time TV show on politics.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s Labour Party government says it is appalled that the far right British National Party will get such high-profile exposure to millions of viewers. The BBC, however, says as a publicly funded broadcaster it must cover all political parties that have a national presence.

The BNP is a loathsome vile racist party. But they also won two seats in the European Parliament. It is not for state owned media to decide not to cover a party, just because of their views.

Personally I believe exposing extreme views, and ridiculing them, is much better than ignoring them.

Having said that media should be careful not give a minor party disproportionate coverage just because they are controversial. For example Winston First should get the same coverage as any other party not in Parliament that is polling 1% to 2%.

BNP Babes

July 8th, 2009 at 12:00 pm by David Farrar

Vice interviews some young female supporters of the British National Party. Some hilarious extracts showing their intellectual depths:

What if immigrants could prove their usefulness – shouldn’t they then be allowed to stay? For instance, if they began life here with a six-month period of forced labour? Perhaps spent making shoes for the rest of the population in a giant shoe factory in the East Midlands?
No. They shouldn’t come to Britain at all in the first place.

Can’t even tell when the piss is being taken.

Are most of your friends BNP?
Some of them are. I kind of got into it through my friend Danny. He’s really racist. Everyone calls him “Nazi Danny”. He started telling me about them, and it made a lot of sense.

Her friend is called Nazi Danny. Sigh.

What do you think the BNP could do to improve its appeal to minority voters?
A lot of people have got an opinion against the BNP that they’re racists or bullies. I don’t think the BNP are a mainstream party that everyone should follow. I think they believe what they believe. I think if we came across more to the people, because I’ve spoken to people before, and they’ve been like, “Well, what is the BNP?” and they couldn’t even say what BNP stood for. A lot of people don’t really know much about it unless you’re quite racist or quite nationalist. So if they could explain themselves to people more clearly, a lot more people would listen.

Such clarity.

What if immigrants only asked to be allowed into the country on condition they had been sterilised, so that they couldn’t create any children to further burden the state? Would that be a potential solution?
Um, yeah, I think so.

Oh I love it when people don’t even understand they are being mocked.

The vileness of the BNP

June 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

The BNP is wasting no time reminding us why they are so loathsome. Their new MEP, Andrew Brons, has said that Dame Kelly Holmes is not “fully British”.


So let us look at the respective contributions towards Britain by both individuals. First Dame Kelly:

  • Won Olympic gold medals for 800 and 1500 metres in 2004
  • Served in the British Army for nine years from age 18
  • Born in Kent
  • Has been a nursing assistant to disabled patients
  • BBC Sports Personality of the Year in 2004
  • Made DBE in 2005
  • Last month was made President of Commonwealth Games England

And now Andrew Brons:

  • Joined the neo-nazi National Socialist Movement at age of 17
  • At age 19 joined the then BNP which merged two years later to become the National Front
  • Co-edited the NF journal New Nation with Richard Verrall – a holocaust denier
  • In 1983 led a march in Leeds where they shouted slogans including “white power” and “death to Jews”

Not much of a contest is there.