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December 7, 2008 8:00am by David Farrar

General Debate 7 December 2008

DPF gets back to the mainland this afternoon, so this is probably only post until late afternoon.

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Murray

Lets talk about him while he’s not looking!

Cheap bastard, putting up three days posts in one hit.
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December 5, 2008 2:27pm
Adolf Fiinkensein

Getting a bit ahead of yourself, aren’t you, David?
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December 5, 2008 2:33pm
AG

Yeah – what was wrong with the General Debate we’ve been having today?

Unless DPF knows something is coming up that we don’t?
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December 5, 2008 2:35pm
Jack5

Radio NZ continues its lefty crusade financed by taxpayer funds.

Chris Laidlaw in his Sunday morning seminars today has been talking to Professor Jan Pronk, Dutch politician, former UN envoy to the Sunday (did a great job there Jan). Pronk said aid should be looked on as income redistribution over the world as a whole.

This means our overburdened taxpayers would be asked to give billions to sustain an even vaster bureaucracy of the United Nations and similar organisations with a drip down to the poor.

Before the Pronk interview, Colin Peacock in his media critique kept alive the possibility of a state-backed TV network for Pacific Islanders in NZ. This was raised only in the last weeks of the election campaign by a floundering Labour Party. Promoter Friesen confirmed it would be feasible with State support, at least initially.

With the country and world going into steep recession, could it be time to close Radio NZ? Why do taxpayers need to fund an internal radio network at all? And especially why finance one that serves chiefly the chardonay socialist set? If it is justifiable why not a State right-wing network, too?
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December 7, 2008 9:56am
Jack5

Whoops! Pronk was UN Special Representative for Sudan, appointed by Kofi Annan, not UN envoy to the Sunday programme (though you would sometimes think the UN ran Radio NZ).
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December 7, 2008 10:01am
dad4justice

Lefty Radio NZ is way past its use by date. How long must their insidious agendas pollute the airways?
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December 7, 2008 10:05am
Johnboy

Laidlaw has always been a pathetic little sawn-off socialist.
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December 7, 2008 10:28am
Madeleine

David is there a reason why you are talking about yourself in the 3rd person?

[DPF: Yes as it was a time delayed post I wanted to make it clear I was not currently posting that I was unable to post]
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December 7, 2008 10:33am
WebWrat

Wow! Things are smokin’ today! Only took 1hr 36m to download a 7 meg file.

And.

General Debate refresed in only 2 mins.

( ; )
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December 7, 2008 10:54am
Madeleine

What are you using? Dial-up?
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December 7, 2008 10:57am
grumpyoldhori

Why are religious sects such socialistic mobs ?
They expect others to pay for their damn local body services, what a bunch of bludgers, just get their dumb brainwashed followers to pay them 15% of their earnings.
And why the hell is it that bludgers on a benefit can afford to buy a luxury like so called religion.
What the hell do we taxpayers owe a bunch of sects ?
Any bludger buying religion should have their charity from taxpayers cut back
Sods are as bad as Nga Tahu who get free services for their marae.
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December 7, 2008 11:01am
WebWrat

Bugger! Took 8 mins to send that post.

:pretend sad face:
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December 7, 2008 11:04am
Jack5

Johnboy writes:”Laidlaw has always been a pathetic little sawn-off socialist.”

Sawn-off has great connotations. I see in my mind a movie with a guy in a long coat with a sawn off double shotgun slung underneath. You wonder how gangsters portrayed in the movies as carrying them like this don’t blow off their own feet. Shotguns are notorious for firing when jarred. Duckshooters have been killed for example when they jarred them as they put them down to climb over a fence.

Let’s hope Laidlaw doesn’t pack a double barrel shotgun!

I hear David Lange made interesting comments about Laidlaw and safaris in Lange’s biography.
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December 7, 2008 11:07am
Jack5

GrumpyoldHori writes: “Sods are as bad as Nga Tahu who get free services for their marae.”

Sorry, not biting today.
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December 7, 2008 11:08am
Patrick Starr

Grumpyoldhori
I don’t know why you always come down on religion. Think of the good things Christianity has done. If they hadn’t come here the maori would still be eating each other.

(Give me a moment and I’ll think of some good things)
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December 7, 2008 11:10am
big bruv

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4785175a12.html

“Mecca lures Muslims for haj” “Over two million Muslim arrived this week in Mecca”
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December 7, 2008 11:13am
WebWrat

# Madeleine (81) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 10:57 am

What are you using? Dial-up?

………………………

Sometimes I think it is a bit of string with and empty can on each end! LOL!

Yeah dial-up @ 4 to 21kbps.

And to think that the stupid bloody Liarbore govt thought IT could supercede agriculture as our main export market.

Even buying St James for twice what it was worth to (Klark’s words) “Protect it from farming!”
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December 7, 2008 11:13am
Johnboy

It would be good if all socialists jarred thier shotguns climbing fences. I just meant he was a runt though.
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December 7, 2008 11:16am
Johnboy

“Mecca lures Muslims for haj” “Over two million Muslim arrived this week in Mecca”

Five megaton airburst at 8000′ AGL should do the trick.
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December 7, 2008 11:20am
WebWrat

That would have been ideal over the Beehive about 9 years ago Johnboy.
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December 7, 2008 11:23am
big bruv

johnboy

That thought had crossed my mind, I wonder if “W” gets the Sunday Star Times?.
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December 7, 2008 11:27am
Johnboy

Nah 5kt groundburst in the carpark better for the Beehive. less colateral for us who live in the Wellington burbs. Mind you the prevailing norwester would have taken out Rongotai with the fallout but that is Annettes electorate so who gives a shit.
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December 7, 2008 11:30am
Grant Michael McKenna

“DPF gets back to the mainland this afternoon”- what part of the South Island will DPF be visiting?
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December 7, 2008 11:33am
Johnboy

Where the hell do you live WW (dont give us the google coordinates unless you want a drive by) even in the wops of Wainui I can just get ADSL– but it is slow. How the hell do you run updates like service pak 3 etc???
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December 7, 2008 11:35am
WebWrat

Last week I spent four days mustering cows, sorting them and then putting them up the river. I rode about 70 miles and walked about a futher ten. On the last day I rode 40 of those miles back to the homestead in 50 knot nor’ west winds and then drove an hour and a half home, arriving at 22:30.

I was so shagged out, I blobbed out in front of the puter, catching up on all you silly buggers and finally went to bed at 02:30.

The point:

Isn’t it wonderful that a quarter of all that effort goes toward sustaining the shiny arses, bludgers and lazy fuckwits of this land?
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December 7, 2008 11:35am
Johnboy

“DPF gets back to the mainland this afternoon”- what part of the South Island will DPF be visiting?”

Not Gore. 😀
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December 7, 2008 11:36am
WebWrat

Johnboy.

“How the hell do you run updates like service pak 3 etc???”

I don’t!

7 ks from the Sheffield exchange. According to a Telecon help-desk girl I waited 40 minutes to talk to one day, we are still on the old party lines. She must have felt sorry for me and told me that there should a max of 6 phones per line, but in our exchange there are 30!!!

It’s not so much the slow dial-up, the lines are so busy there is no data transfer going on.

Worse on weekends and school holidays.
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December 7, 2008 11:46am
Johnboy

Still you would hardly have time to use the computer after reading the amount of work you do in your previous post. Hopefully JK’s plan to improve access will help things for you guys but I would not hold my breath. Still you would have got stuff-all from the last lot as you work to bloody hard to fit into their ideal template of a Labour voter. I’ll go and have a lie down now as reading your previous made me feel very tired.
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December 7, 2008 11:56am
Tauhei Notts

Webwrat,
It always gets me that wealth producers like you, stuck out the arse end of Mid Canterbury, get useless internet connections, while bludgers in East Tamaki have access to high speed broadband.
High country beef farmers like you are treated like used toilet tissue.
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December 7, 2008 12:05pm
WebWrat

@ Johnboy.
LOL!

The last lot (that fucking bent Benson-Pope) gave Aquiring Authority over my farm to a private company. That’s why I look after a 2000 acre farm ten ks away and do casual on a 125,000 acre station up the Waimak … can’t/not allowed to develop my own place.

When I am at home on the weekends I just wander around with tears in my eyes.
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December 7, 2008 12:07pm
Johnboy

Whats aquiring authority and how can a collection of fucking useless wankers like Helen and the perverted BP take your rights to farm your own land off you?
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December 7, 2008 12:12pm
WebWrat

Tauhei Notts.

It’s worse than that. Some of my work is in the high country but I live only 7 ks from Sheffield (main West Coast road), about 20 ks from Darfield and 60 ks from Christchurch. Can’t get BB on the land line and Scorch/Farmside are too expensive.

Really pisses me off … I have been into computers for a long time (1986 I bought my first one) and would love to do a graphics based business on the WWW but the upload times for big files makes it impossible.
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December 7, 2008 12:18pm
MyNameIsJack

Tauhei Notts (303) Vote: 1 0 Says:

December 7th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Webwrat,
It always gets me that wealth producers like you, stuck out the arse end of Mid Canterbury, get useless internet connections, while bludgers in East Tamaki have access to high speed broadband.

That’s the Free Market for you, something I thought the posters here supported. Telecom’s duty is to maximise shareholder profits, not provide an uneconomical service to webwrat.

Don’t like it? neither do I, but that’s what happens when you turn over national infrastructure planning to private capital.
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December 7, 2008 12:20pm
Johnboy

“Don’t like it? neither do I, but that’s what happens when you turn over national infrastructure planning to private capital.”

So internet services are much better in the Peoples Democratic Republic Of Korea then Jacko. Fuck off you wanker. 😀
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December 7, 2008 12:27pm
MyNameIsJack

Acquiring Authority Status is usually used in cases where land needs to be taken for a public good, such as roads, power lines or other major infrastructure.

B-P gave Acquiruing Authority Status to a priovate company wishing to set up massive scale dairyfarming in Canterbury and over stressing the already stressed acquifers. To his credit, B-P has admitted he goofed, but that soufle cannot now be unbaked. canterbury will now be saddled with a ridiculous dairy farm conglomerate, water will be abstracted well beyond the regenerative capacity of the acquifers and webwrat just has to suck it up.
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December 7, 2008 12:30pm
MyNameIsJack

So internet services are much better in the Peoples Democratic Republic Of Korea …
I have no idea, but the topic at hand is the lack of high speed internet on the fringe of one of NZ’s biggest cities, in the midst of highly productive farm land. So sad you have trouble with reality Bohnjoy.
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December 7, 2008 12:33pm
Johnboy

Did BP make this decision when he had the tennis ball in his mouth or after Helen jammed it up his butt for making a fool out of her. Not that she needed to mind you we always knew that she was not too bright.
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December 7, 2008 12:34pm
Camryn

What did B-P get in return for using statutory powers to advantage a private enterprise with no apparent public good except potentially increased tax revenue?
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December 7, 2008 12:35pm
Johnboy

Freedom from prosecution as a pervert perhaps Camryn?
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December 7, 2008 12:38pm
WebWrat

Johnboy.

“Aquiring Authority” … Google “Works Act”. It’s for the govt to aquire land to build public infrastructure. They gave it to a private company that wants to flood our valley and put 475 ks of 16 to 26 metre wide canals all over the Canterbury Plains. Plus a 50 metre wide canal from the Rakaia to Coalgate and a 50 metre canal from the Waimakarari to Coalgate.

(http://www.ecan.govt.nz/Resource+Consents/Central+Plains+Water/PlansAndReports.htm) … remove ()

My submission under:
Submitters’ Evidence/Institutions/Malvern Hills Protection Society

(http://www.ecan.govt.nz/NR/rdonlyres/BBD3632E-0068-4E1F-9E2F-5B329BEA9C14/0/HearingEvidenceMartyLucas.pdf)

While reading this site, think about the precedent that has been set here. ANYONE can declare that they have a scheme that is for a public good and take YOUR property!!

Think about it!

Anyway … enough about me. Better go and give the dogs a run and carry on breaking in my horse.
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December 7, 2008 12:43pm
Johnboy

Thanks for that WW I will have a good read of it.
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December 7, 2008 12:47pm
reddeath26

“So internet services are much better in the Peoples Democratic Republic Of Korea then Jacko. Fuck off you wanker. ”
You have a somewhat simplified view of the world, don’t you?
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December 7, 2008 12:54pm
MyNameIsJack

shhhhh – don’t tell johnboy there’s a world outside his bedroom. It might make him even more frightened…
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December 7, 2008 12:59pm
Camryn

WebWrat – Pretty good summary at Wikipedia too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Plains_Water
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December 7, 2008 1:02pm
Tauhei Notts

Webwrat,
Is that the Barrhill-Chertsey scheme that you are writing about?
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December 7, 2008 1:03pm
Camryn

And some of your farm (30%) would be under this?

http://www.cpw.org.nz/pdf06/map%201%20Dam%20and%20Reservoir.pdf
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December 7, 2008 1:05pm
reddeath26

@Camryn-
If that page is accurate in regards to how many submissions oppose it vs those which support it, I would hope that the development plans get canceled. If it did go ahead I would certainly expect anyone who stand to lose property to be fairly compensated.
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December 7, 2008 1:10pm
philu

key was on agenda..

..trying to explain away his premature ejaculation..

http://whoar.co.nz/2008/comment-whoarjohn-key-trys-to-explain-away-his-hercules-themed-premature-ejaculationand-fails/

phil(whoar.co.nz)
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December 7, 2008 1:16pm
WebWrat

# Tauhei Notts (304) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Webwrat,
Is that the Barrhill-Chertsey scheme that you are writing about?

……………………..

No. The Barrhill-Chertsey scheme went tits up because the cockies decided it was too expensive at $3000 per hectare.

This scheme is Central Plains Water … already the projected cost is $12,500 per hectare at the farm gate and yet they still persist with it. It’s taken 8 years so far with a possible 6 to go (2 appeals possible) before I am free to get on with my life.

Thank you MyNameIsJack, you are a wonderful guy.
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December 7, 2008 1:17pm
Chris G

Hey Webwrat, you’ll be right… aint the other john boy gettin us super-speed broadband?

….or is that just for some big businesses in auckland? maybe a dash of helensville. Surely not.
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December 7, 2008 1:18pm
WebWrat

Camryn (118) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

And some of your farm (30%) would be under this?

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Sorry Camryn … missed you there.

Yes that’s right.

I’m not after sympathy here …. I just wish people would realise what is going on and start jumping up and down about this threat to our democracy and to ANYONE that has PRIVATE PROPERTY.

Gotta go.
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December 7, 2008 1:25pm
Chris G

I probably need to read in to the comments and the project more.

But this year I studied a resource management case and resource consent for these big schemes (and for anything actually) CAN be granted over other peoples property BUT they cant be applied without the property owners consent. Very stupid, I know.

So essentially you end up with a fat cheque being offered to you by the developer for you to move on outta there.

This was the case with the Wairau Hydro Scheme proposed by Trustpower in Malborough. Similar with this one concerning you WebWrat?
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December 7, 2008 1:39pm
WebWrat

# reddeath26 (33) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

@Camryn-
If that page is accurate in regards to how many submissions oppose it vs those which support it, I would hope that the development plans get canceled. If it did go ahead I would certainly expect anyone who stand to lose property to be fairly compensated.

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The “Works Act” says that compensation will be market value plus 10%.

The problem is no one wants to buy land that has a designation on it (we can’t sell) and there is no recent trade to base a value on. We therefore will have a huge arguement whilst trying to establish “market value”.

Also if the scheme goes ahead, irrigated land on the plains will increase to and above $50,000 per hectare (an irrigated dairy farm sold in Southland recently for $50,000 per hectare), which in turn will pump up the price of all surrounding land (dairy run-off/support) in the foothills.

My property will be unsuitable for such use after the flats are flooded and I will be lucky if compesation for my 300 acres buys me 50 acres elsewhere.
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December 7, 2008 1:48pm
grumpyoldhori

WebWrat, OK had a nose at your terrain.
First does the Sheffield exchange have any lines that are NOT party lines and feed locals in the village ?
In other words do people in Sheffield itself have ADSL available ?
Can you get line of sight from your house to the Sheffield village, LOS is a clear line of sight not through trees etc.
If not, can you get line of sight from anywhere on your property to the village and your house at the same time ?
I just helped a bloke outside of Alex to get a feed via microwave using a ADSL connection at a house just outside the town.
Have a look at these sites http://www.seattlewireless.net/
http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato
The WRT54GLs are about a $100 each at the moment.
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December 7, 2008 1:54pm
WebWrat

@ Chris G

“…………. CAN be granted over other peoples property BUT they cant be applied without the property owners consent. Very stupid, I know.”

The “Aquiring Authority” over-rides the ‘consent’ thing.

Unless our million dollar lawyers aren’t doing their homework!!!

Gone.
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December 7, 2008 1:57pm
WebWrat

@ grumpyoldhori

Thanks for that.

We have a hill between us and the village … could put something on the hill I spose but the cost would be prohibitive.

I think we have got ‘line of sight’ to a Scorch repeater but they are pretty expensive as well … tho’ I am getting desperate enough to give it a go!

Right, really off this time.
See ya tonight.
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December 7, 2008 2:06pm
grumpyoldhori

Maybe it is time for a country party, Key, Rodders and those bloody horis are too busy making sure that telecom companies have corporate welfare to supply high speed internet to Labour voters in the city to give a flying fuck about we rural types.
It is a bloody disgrace the internet availability in rural areas.
Fibre can be run over power lines, but we will not see it.
Oh yeah, National trying to say that VOIP will work over satelite, plonkers.
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December 7, 2008 2:07pm
MyNameIsJack

WebWrat, I’m looking west from Oxford and see smoke on the horizon. Is it you sending smoke signals, or are you burning the farm?
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December 7, 2008 2:07pm
WebWrat

# MyNameIsJack (76) Vote: Add rating 0 Subtract rating 0 Says:
December 7th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

WebWrat, I’m looking west from Oxford and see smoke on the horizon. Is it you sending smoke signals, or are you burning the farm?

……………………….

It’s coming out of my ears!!
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December 7, 2008 2:15pm
grumpyoldhori

WebWrat , repeaters can be expensive because of their power supply costs.
But there is a trick around that, is there a fence line running up the hill with a 240V
supply somewhere around the bottom of the hill.
NUM 8 wire 🙂 resistance works out at 3.8 ohms a hundred metres for a single wire , if you have a new piece of num 8 running along the top of the fence using water hose as insulators you can feed it with a AC 24 V at the bottom, rectify it five hundred metres up the hill,then run the DC output through a voltage regulator for 12 V DC supplying the WRT54GL repeater.
Use all the fence and earth as a return.

Yep, one problem with the commercial wireless types, they tend to charge like wounded bulls for bandwidth.
I’m coming back as a flash consultant 🙂
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December 7, 2008 2:28pm
Political Busker

Radio New Zealand is necessary, no matter if the nation is conservative or liberal, Westminster styled or tribal, paternal or maternal. The primary question is who has the capacity to question its content where they be not a judge in their own cause? The fact of a national broadcaster is pure public interest. If it is tainted in any form then it is because of the application of the functions and principles and not the necessity or lack there of the service. While I am presently engaged in proceedings against Radio New Zealand for a demonstrable failure to observe its code, the discussion on its function is important. The fact that the other media have not covered the proceedings exposes how deep a corruption has infiltrated the democracy.
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December 7, 2008 3:15pm
Political Busker

The following is one reply to a media release I put out from Friday on: A second release will be put out early next week. The underlining question that I am asking the reader is: How does a state party protect itself from judicial corruption when it is identified?

7 December 2008.

Hello John,

Thank you for your reply.

In regards to the protest outside the judge’s chambers, my speech will cover two areas. The first is in relation to the Principal Family Court Judge, Judge Boshier, failing to meet with fathers of the Wellington based father’s coalition. This is serious where the information that would be brought to his attention would explain why the present direction taken by the court is further damaging of the relationship between father and son or daughter.

The second issue is relative to the court proceedings of Auckland business man and father, Vince Siemer. Mr Siemer has raised serious issues within the structure of the court’s administration in jurisprudence. These issues have been allowed to mature breeding deeper into lawlessness and corruption. One of the issues that Mr Siemer has raised is that he was prosecuted by the Solicitor General for contempt of court and an indefinite prison sentence sought until Mr Siemer complied with the orders of the court. Mr Siemer replied that as the sentence sought would be longer than three months he was entitled to a trial by jury. This matter raised the seriousness of what Mr Siemer was alleging about the New Zealand court’s processes out of law. Justices Gendall and Chisholm altered the period of imprisonment from indefinite to six months, and ignored his request for a trial by jury advancing in other decisions a level of secrecy around the case that is totally outrageous. Then Mr Siemer found that transcripts of proceedings had been tampered with changing and deleting large sections. This he seeks to prove having secretly recorded the information from one of the proceedings. In my opinion the results of this information when mature will see the entire New Zealand court system reviewed and reformed.
In answer to your question I am not planning to directly state in my speech that trial by jury is a good or a bad thing. In my opinion I believe that there are some conditions in law that are very difficult for the ordinary or lay person to comprehend and to this end when such complexities ignite a transparent system must be applied to test the difficult question by those experienced enough so to do. This is where specialist witnesses are of absolute value, whether before a jury or before a judge.

Mr Siemer’s case (in reserved judgment stasis) appears evidentially to be in his favour and as such a jury should be formed to hear his matter. This case will give rise and test to your question. The court is bound to deny information relevant to Mr Siemer’s claims of internal corrupt practice, even though the entire matter is about those corrupt practices. So to fully answer your question, the matter that will be inherent in the protest about jury trials is how the bench instructs that jury.
My hope is that those who feel strongly about justice being seen to be done will feel encouraged to attend the protest.

Respectfully,
Benjamin Easton
(of a) father’s coalition.

Protest against injustice:

December 6 2008.

Tena tatou katoa,

I am planning a protest at Solnet House, Wellington, 70 The Terrace, on December 11th 2008, starting 11.45am.

The building houses the Judge’s Chambers and the Office of the Ombudsman.

The theme of the protest is that Justice must be seen to be done. There will be two primary posters.

One will be relative to the Family Court and the other will be general in the form of a cartoon. It will feature a Humpty Dumpty waving a gavel and dressed in judge’s garb. There will also be A4 slogans that can be displayed.

The Bank of New Zealand will also be targeted in this protest. The BNZ have funded a gender discriminatory campaign demonising and vilifying men as the only perpetrators of domestic violence. The bank has nakedly exploited the child to pervert the public’s comprehension on matters of domestic violence employing this unlawful, damaging and exploitative campaign.

Please support this protest. If you are not able to attend, but know of others in Wellington with an interest in this matter; please get them to contact me. Feel encouraged distributing this information.

My phone number is 027 390 2169.

Benjamin Easton
(of a) father’s coalition.
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December 7, 2008 3:34pm
Johnboy

Breaking news Batman has resigned and stood down from his Government Appointments. The Smiling Assassin has struck again. 😀
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December 7, 2008 5:07pm
WebWrat

grumpyoldhori

Thanks for the links.
Very interesting.

Another power option would be a solar panel charging a 12 volt deep cycle battery.

Would that work?
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December 7, 2008 9:15pm
llew

Don’t like it? neither do I, but that’s what happens when you turn over national infrastructure planning to private capital.

It’s probably not as simple as that either, the first thing that came to my mind on reading this was rural party lines. A government ownerd telecom didn’t serve the rural community too well either.
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December 8, 2008 8:24am
grumpyoldhori

WebWrat, Solar power will work but it is a bloody expensive way of doing it.
The num 8 trick should cost no more than $150, whereas solar power with controller and battery will run you to around $1100.

If you can see the top of the hill from your house it is simple to do.
Arrange with someone in the village to use their phone line to have ADSL activated on it,have a splitter put on the line and mount the ADSL router under the barge board with an ethernet feed to a WR54GL fitted with a 18 db antenna aimed at the hill with the WRT54GL in client mode.
Put another WRT on the hill in router mode with the antenna output going through a N type antenna splitter which feeds two antennas one aimed at the village the other at your house.
Then put a WRT at your house in client mode.
A bit of reading 🙂 http://www.linksysinfo.org/index.php

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/wlan

http://www.pricespy.co.nz/pno_8868.html

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December 8, 2008 11:09am
WebWrat

Thanks grumpy …. you’ve got me all excited now!!

The neighbor has an electric wire running up the boundary fence to the top of the hill. I’ll go and grab a hold of it and see if it’s a mains one!!

BTW didn’t Labour abolish No 8 wire technology?

LOL (:-))
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December 8, 2008 6:26pm
getstaffed

I see that it was Hone Harawira (i think…) who has failed to pledge aligence to the Queen, pledging instead to be aligned with “his people”.

I mean seriously… either ministers take a common vow or they don’t. Why bother with the swearing in if it’s just a charade?
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December 8, 2008 6:44pm
Johnboy

Hi WW thanks for those links. I am only part way through it as it is hard going. Yours brought a tear to my eye (not that I would ever admit it of course). Your dad was a great guy. I used to be an amateur pilot a long time ago and avidly read books on the subject including the history of SS. Don’t give in. If the arse falls out of dairying as it seems to be doing the greedys may loose interest. Be Strong.
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December 8, 2008 8:01pm
WebWrat

Thanks for your thoughts Johnboy.

Heavy going isn’t it?

I’ve always had the feeling that this dairy boom was similar to the ‘Queens Street’ cockie inspired booms with ostrich, kiwi fruit, goats and deer that all went tits up when limited markets were over-supplied.

The dairy boom is a global thing, with China being the main recipient of the produce. China is also increasing dairy production by huge amounts and will eventually be their own suppliers.

My neighbour went to China on a farm tour and one place he went to had 10,000 cows under cover in a huge shed. The cows were milked at the end of the shed and the milk was pumped thru to the processing plant which was also on site. Jim said these outfits were getting built all over the place. Wont take them long to build up when you consider that this one place alone will be producing approx 5,000 heifer calves a year that will go ‘on line’.

In my opinion, when the corperate investers that are driving this boom see their investment returns drop below a certain level, they will cut their losses and move onto something else. As they did with all the other ‘booms’.

Meanwhile life has been made extremely difficult for folk like me that just want to have a modest living on the land. The mayhem caused by these greedy bastards is huge …. land values grossly inflated, local communities/schools disrupted and changed, feed bills doubled and etc. Then you get this grandoise irrigation scheme, designed to load even more cows onto this traditional dry-land farming area that isn’t really suitable for dairy farming.

Over 400 land titles will be adversely affected by the scheme for the benefit of 350 shareholders, who, I am sure, will sell their land to corperates for $50,000 per hectare and bugger off. After all, why would you go into a debt of $6 or $7 million to convert your farm to dairy (the only industry viable when you consider the water will be $12,500 at the farm gate) when you can sell your property for $10 million and retire?

That’s if dairy keeps booming.

The canals will look pretty from a satelite.
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December 8, 2008 11:38pm
grumpyoldhori

WebWrat, good stuff just hang on to that electric fence until you come to the
240 volt power supply.
Remember if you have to run further that say 500metres it is easy to do, just run
two positive wires on top of the fence to drop the resistance.
Want some advice email me at grumpyoldhori@(remove this)gmail.com
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December 9, 2008 10:40am
WebWrat

Grumpy.
There is actually a Vodafone tower on top of the hill. Maybe I can sneak an extension cord in there when they are not looking … problem solved!!

It’s a thought tho’ … maybe they would let me take a bit of their power.

Going out the back for a few days but when I get back I’m going to get onto this.

Thanks for all your help.

I’ll send you an email and keep you posted.

Cheers
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