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Dave Mann

At 11am today (the 11th of November) let’s pause to remember the approx 6 million allied troops who lost their lives in WWI, the ‘war to end all wars’. This in addition to the millions wounded and missing.

The total casualties of that horrific conflict were about 40 million in combatant troops as well as civilians who were either killed, wounded, missing or died from disease.

The armistice was a truce which came into effect on the eleventh hour of the eleventh month of 1918. The actual end of hostilities (although it took months before the final treaty was signed at Versailles).

Let us remember.
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November 11, 2018 9:52am
- holysheet
  
  In the 14th century people were concerned about The Plague.
  In the 19th century people were concerned about working 16 hour days.
  In the 20th century people were concerned about going to War.
  In the 21st century people are concerned about how offended they are.
  
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  November 11, 2018 9:58am
  - David Garrett
    
    Holy: Well said…On this somber day of remembrance that is a particularly apt reminder…
    
    Whenever I read of some snowflake complaining that he or she “doesn’t feel safe”, I think about a member of a bomber crew in WW II telling his captain that he couldn’t fly tonight “because I feel particularly unsafe going to X”… One quick way to get you off ops and into a pysch hospital I guess…except it would never have occurred to any of those brave men to do such a thing.
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:43am
    - igm
      
      Whoever down ticked this is either the offspring of conscientious objectors or just a plain gutless arsehole!
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:15am
      - big bruv
        
        igm
        
        They may well be related to that gutless POS Michael Joseph Savage who was a conscientious objector.
        
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        November 11, 2018 12:21pm
- Crisplion
  
  Move him into the sun—
  Gently its touch awoke him once,
  At home, whispering of fields half-sown.
  Always it woke him, even in France,
  Until this morning and this snow.
  If anything might rouse him now
  The kind old sun will know.
  
  Think how it wakes the seeds—
  Woke once the clays of a cold star.
  Are limbs, so dear-achieved, are sides
  Full-nerved, still warm, too hard to stir?
  Was it for this the clay grew tall?
  —O what made fatuous sunbeams toil
  To break earth’s sleep at all?
  
  ~Wilfred Owen
  
  Lest we forget.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:11am
  - Nukuleka
    
    And there are people down ticking these posts?
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:21am
    - David Garrett
      
      Nuku: Sadly the morons will always be with us…
      
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      November 11, 2018 10:25am
      - Morrissey
        
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        They’re all in the ACT Party, Mr Garrett. Oh, sorry…
        
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        November 11, 2018 10:29am
      - I've been to Mecca and you have not!
        
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        I down-ticked everyone. Teeheehee.
        
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        November 11, 2018 10:31am
      - David Garrett
        
        Morrisey: At least I am not afraid to put my name to my opinions dickhead…You are like an irritating little boy, calling out “wanker!” from the middle of dark theatre, where no-one can identify you…
        
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        November 11, 2018 10:32am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Not quite right DG.
        Morrissey is Morrissey Breen of Northcote Point. You can look up his not so illustrious credentials with the help of Mr. Google.
        
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        November 11, 2018 10:39am
      - Bottomless_Pit
        
        Yes and it’s gutless. My Grandfather fought in WW 1, he arrived in France in June 1917, as a gunner in 11 Battery, 3rd Brigade. This was immediately before the last big battle at Paschendale, he was 17 years old. 2700 Kiwis died in those engagements at Messines and Paschendale so for the absolute wankers who would down tick these comments, crawl away to the hole you should be in you do not deserve to have benefited from the sacrifices those young men made.
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:39pm
  - harvey wilson
    
    Like I said Morrisey several times , people who are happy and content in their own lives don’t behave like you and Muttonbird.
    To not only visit a forum where people have no time for you far left lunacy but to actually put your pointless arguments on your blog suggests that you are a deeply deeply unhappy person. I wonder if like Muttonbird it’s borne out of dissatisfaction with your life and unhappiness with the way things have worked out and the knowledge you have no way of getting where you imagined yourself being when you were young?
    
    It’s just speculation of course, I bet I’m pretty close to the truth though .
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:45am
    - igm
      
      Notice surname Breen is forefront in conscientious objection . . . who would have thought that?
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:19am
      - sooty
        
        Was he in Queen st with Clark and Goff spitting on the returning soldiers?
        
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        November 11, 2018 11:25am
      - Morrissey
        
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        …spitting on the returning soldiers?
        
        ????
        
        Neither Clark nor Goff did that. Anyway, as you would know if you had ever bothered to read the classic New Zealand book We Will Not Cease by Archibald Baxter, ordinary soldiers had no problem with “conchies.” Baxter writes of how the soldiers and policemen who had him in their custody nearly always were kind and supportive of his stance and his actions; they recognized that he, not they, had shown real courage in resisting the bullying compulsion of the state.
        
        The problem in the Great War, just as it is the problem now, was the vengeance of the state—i.e., the politicians and their sycophants in the press.
        
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        November 11, 2018 12:44pm
      - Longknives
        
        “Baxter writes of how the soldiers and policemen who had him in their custody nearly always were kind and supportive of his stance and his actions; they recognized that he, not they, had shown real courage”
        
        What utter garbage.
        Soldiers and Cops have more courage in their little fingers than Lefty wimps like Baxter.
        Talk to any old Soldier and ask them what they think…
        
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        November 11, 2018 1:13pm
    - igm
      
      harvey: See above POS Morrissey is using Baxter to try and justify despicable conscientious objection by gutless lefties during our two world wars.
      Google Breen and see it occurring frequently in the konshy columns.
      He also tries to defend Clark and Goff for their vile and detestable attacks on returning servicemen.
      He is nothing but a gutless and pathetic POS.
      
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      November 11, 2018 2:27pm
      - starboard
        
        Rampant homosexual as well.
        
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        November 11, 2018 3:37pm
      - harvey wilson
        
        Igm , he’s not well . I have a mate who’s a Viet Nam vet , they finally got a welcome home parade in 1998 and some hateful twat turned up to protest .
        I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Morrisey, I hope so because an Aussie motorbike club made up of veterans came over for the parade and chased the coward away when they saw him .
        
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        November 11, 2018 5:39pm
- Justitia
  
  The 1918 armistice marked a temporary pause. The conflict resumed in earnest in September 1939 with even greater destruction. The end however may be in sight as Teresa May prepares to capitulate to German hegemony later this week. Britain’s time as a nation State governed by the consent of its people is rapidly drawing to a close.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:51am
  - Crisplion
    
    I agree with you that there weren’t really two world wars, but one. But I think the world war of the 2oth century actually ended in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet empire. Most of the major conflicts were part of a broader ideological battle, including the Korean and Vietnamese wars.
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:13am
    - Pascal
      
      We’re not done yet, the battleground has just shifted.
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:41am
      - greybeard
        
        Yes, shifted to China vs the rest of us.
        They are waging a different sort of war: one where they manipulate economies to the point of becoming subservient to them.
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:15pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    The problem with the UK and the United States of Europe is that the enemy is within. It is all the wimpy politicians (like Cameron, May, Hague, Blair and Major) who believe/listen/follow duplicitous politicians/bureaucrats and businessmen like Heath/Heseltine/Clarke in the line that Britain will be prosperous if it signs up to the European project.
    
    The duplicitous line that Britain will be prosperous and needs the EU couldn’t be further from the truth. What has always been the case is that a few businessmen, their shareholders and their own businesses have been prosperous while the rest of the UK pays for it.
    
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    November 11, 2018 3:01pm
holysheet

Cindy came home and found Jethro slumped over a lawn mower crying his eyes out.
He said he’ll be fine, he’s just going through a rough patch.
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November 11, 2018 9:57am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Cindy was not too concerned, Jethro had another dozen lawnmowers in the shed . . . . . .
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:10am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    No wonder there’s a shortage, someone is hogging them
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:51am
- skyblue
  
  I thought he was crying because he mowed over a white line.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:53am
fernglas

I’m pleased that they are making mobile phones bigger. It means that when I carry out my threat to ram them up my kids’ arses if they use them at the table, they will not easily forget.
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November 11, 2018 10:00am
- Viking2
  
  Remove their food supply. Then their arseholes will be of no need. (except to store their cellphone.)
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:34am
artemisia

KiwiBuild at threat of going ‘KiwiBust’ over ‘plummeting popularity’

Mr Twyford is scrambling to justify his flagship policy by saying odds are better than Lotto. Unfortunately that scrambling undermines his claim of plenty of demand.

I see Ms Collins has been asking a lot of written questions about the location of Kiwibuild homes contracted (3375 as of today). Mr Twyford’s response – sod off, commercially sensitive. Huh? What could be commercially sensitive about locations of homes already under contract? Enquiring minds ….

Number pre-qualified – 338 in the below article but the official number is 214. That doesn’t mean much in practice, just that they can enter a ballot. Even if they win, the applicants might not complete that purchase for any number of reasons. Interested to know how many ballot winners drop out of the sale.

73 under construction so those pre-qualified could get 3 each? Against the rules, but as we have seen, the rules can change. Desperation is the new mother of invention.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108471157/kiwibuild-at-threat-of-going-kiwibust-over-plummeting-popularity
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November 11, 2018 10:02am
- Rich Prick
  
  This is what happens when you have to turn election slogans into reality. It’s on the hoof and it’s a joke. Twyford has clearly run out of doctors to house.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:53am
secondcumming

BREAKING……

Well known Dunedin bon vivant and part-time blogger *Pete George* has gone full retard………naming and shaming the National female MP intimately involved in JLR sex scandal!

https://yournz.org/2018/11/10/the-non-naming-of-the-national-mp-raises-media-issues
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November 11, 2018 10:03am
- fernglas
  
  It does seem a bit hypocritical that Mr Ross can be publicly chastised by the deputy leader of his former party for conduct unbecoming a married MP, when the equally married MP with whom he was consorting has been spared being identified and being sent to the naughty chair.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:09am
  - Keeping Stock
    
    I’m guessing that’s because the female MP hasn’t, as far as we know, leaked any confidential email to the news media. On the other hand, Ross has thrown her under the bus.
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:27am
  - peterwn
    
    No. JLR was offered a stern deal, but one where there was hope. He chose to reject it out of hand. Given all the circumstances I do not see it as more than very minor hypocrisy
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:20pm
- David Garrett
  
  second: Christ, Pete George rabbits on doesn’t he? I gave up after about 2000 words…which looked like about half way…
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:30am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Same….
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:22am
    - Jack5
      
      If Ross had had a sexual relationship with a male MP or a transexual MP, would the mob be clamouring for the name of Ross’s partner to be released?
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:47am
      - dubya
        
        I think even Georgina Beyer has better taste in men than that!
        
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        November 11, 2018 12:05pm
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Read the whole thing.
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:38pm
- Pete George
  
  That’s a very inaccurate description of the post.
  
  There’s been a lot of discussion by journalists and media commentators about why one MP remains unnamed (which is ridiculous because everyone knows who she is).
  
  Ross has proven himself to be an untrustworthy MP, so badly that only Winston Peters will do him a proxy favour, and there’s good evidence he has abused his poaer as an MP in local body politics (he has apologised for his behaviour there).
  
  But there are important questions answered only in a round about way excluding names but knowing who is being talked about, that raise important issues for politics and for journalism.
  
  If journalists decide what information to not to divulge because it suits their own interests, who holds power to account?
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:07pm
  - mic
    
    It seems to me that most journalists ARE pretty selective with what information they wish to divulge. We need some good, honest, real, unbiased journalism from people who will do some investigating and not pander to this COL by sweeping things under the carpet. Surely the pile of dirt under there must be large enough by now.
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:04pm
- peterwn
  
  IMO he should should have deleted the parts in question as soon as he was aware of them. Otherwise he could face nasty legal action. That would be why MSM has not cited names. Similarly those in Parliament are well aware that citing names could lead to a tit for tat.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:28pm
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  She should be leader of that rabble.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/10/general_debate_27_october_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2343299
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:48pm
- MrTips
  
  Screw that. The most shocking thing about that blog entry is the comment rumour that Katie Bradford got it on with Cunliffe. Seriously? Ewwwwwww……
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:36pm
  - harvey wilson
    
    I’m not sure who got the worse end of the deal there.
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:58pm
  - softail 1450
    
    Mr tips ,Bradford was never that hard up was she?
    
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    November 11, 2018 3:17pm
Swifty

Who’s the short-arse next to Prince Harry?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374969/Prince-Harry-lays-poppy-wreath-Twickenham-field-ahead-England-v-New-Zealand.html
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November 11, 2018 10:06am
- Morrissey
  
  Who’s that murderer standing to the left of Winston Peters?
  
  https://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-08082015/#comment-1056489
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:12am
  - Lance
    
    Morrissey has exceeded his status of vile scumbag and has moved into a new status of…. cunt
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:20am
    - Morrissey
      
      Think you mean the “Big H”, Lance.
      
      I’ve never murdered anyone.
      
      As for the cocaine and the hookers, I plead the fifth.
      
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      November 11, 2018 10:23am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Indeed. His scumbaggery is made even worse by the fact that today is Armistice Day, and whether or not we agree with war, we should be grateful for and respectful of those who lost their lives on our behalf.
      
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      November 11, 2018 10:29am
      - Morrissey
        
        ?????
        
        How were our lives enhanced in any way by the “heroes” of the Light Horse regiment clubbing to death more than a hundred innocent, unarmed men in the village of Surafend in December 1918?
        
        General Allenby called those ANZAC troops “cowards and murderers”.
        
         Far from apologizing for the massacre, the RSA ran poems in its magazine praising it.
        
        http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/index.blog?topic_id=1115959
        
        http://www.theage.com.au/national/massacre-that-stained-the-light-horse-20090723-dv3o.html
        
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        November 11, 2018 10:32am
- Nostradamus
  
  [Morrissey was here!]
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:30am
  - sooty
    
    I have never seen Whiney in person, but he does look short. Is his wreath smaller as well?
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:38am
    - holysheet
      
      I don’t call him the drunken dwarf for nothing.
      He was a short arse when I first met him at a Nats conference in Rotorua in the 80’s.
      Nothing has changed.
      
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      November 11, 2018 10:48am
- JibberJabber
  
  Some geriatric Hobbit, one of NZs high paid beneficiaries.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:58am
- RF
  
  There is a saying… Small man big ……. mouth.
  
  He is a real short arse. Maybe that’s why he likes to hang around jockeys…
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:41pm
- Liberty
  
  “Who’s the short-arse next to Prince Harry?”
  Minister of Junkets
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:44pm
Hugh Pavletich

… NEW ZEALAND: When does Housing Minister Phil Twyford intend to stop playing games (Kiwibuild) … and instead JUST ALLOW new affordable housing to be built ? …

KiwiBuild at threat of going ‘KiwiBust’ over ‘plummeting popularity’ | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/108471157/kiwibuild-at-threat-of-going-kiwibust-over-plummeting-popularity

Kiwibuild’s plummeting popularity could spell out Kiwibust for the Government’s flagship policy.

There are only 338 pre-qualified Kiwibuild applicants, while contracts for 3375 houses have been signed off by the Government. It was forced to push out the Kiwibuild ballot deadline in Wanaka, after receiving just 20 entries for 10 homes. … read more via hyperlink above …
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… Affordable housing is at or below 3.0 times annual household income … requiring a sensible mortgage of about 2.5 times …

Why are New Zealand homes so pricey? It has nothing to do with avocados | Stuff.co.nz
… watch superb video …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/106789344/why-are-nz-homes-so-pricey-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-avocados
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… Phil Twyford’s wasted 12 months … ignoring public opinion …

Govt criticised for moving slowly on Auckland growth boundary | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/105295016/govt-criticised-for-moving-slowly-on-auckland-growth-boundary

New Zealand Issues Monitor – Concerns about housing grow

https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow
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… Is Phil Twyford going to ALLOW us to build affordable housing out of this bubble … or continue doing nothing and BUST out of it instead … like the Aussies ?

… Your choice Phil …

Falling Australian house prices a warning for NZ: commentator | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/108168646/falling-australian-house-prices-a-warning-for-nz-commentator
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November 11, 2018 10:13am
- Hugh Pavletich
  
  Check out late Fridays post …
  
  AUSTRALIA: The bursting housing bubble … continued …
  
  Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/ubs-aussie-banks-still-univestable/#comment-3222381 … and … https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_9_november_2018.html/comment-page-1#comment-2355395
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:17am
- Swifty
  
  Hugh Pavletich is a wanker…….
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  See hyperlink below…..
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  https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=hugh+pavletich+wanker&rlz=1C1GCEU_enNZ820NZ820&oq=hugh+&aqs=chrome.2.0j69i57j69i59l2j0l2.6274j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:19am
- JibberJabber
  
  Annnnnd… Still no one visits the `tards blog… take a hint, no one gives a shit.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:00am
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    Really ? …
    
    IPSOS New Zealand Issues Monitor (September) – Concerns about housing grow
    
    https://www.ipsos.com/en-nz/new-zealand-issues-monitor-concerns-about-housing-grow
    
    At least National is on the Opposition benches. … put there because of its housing failures …
    
    That’s progress ! …
    
    http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
    
    Remember this sad case back in 2007 … lying through his teeth …
    
    John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:20am
    - Nostradamus
      
      Remember this sad case back in 2007
      
      I don’t remember you from back in 2007, Hugh, but if that’s how you’d like to be described then ok!
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:22am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Ha ha … Lousy memory loser !…
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/articles.html
        
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        November 11, 2018 11:42am
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘Still no one visits the ‘tards blog’
      
      “Really ?…”
      
      Yeah, really.
      https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/performanceurbanplanning.org
      
      Alexa- Search percent not available- not enough data.
      Mind you Hugh, congratulations. Your ‘blog’s Global Rank is 17,106,890!
      I see you fell 1,504,264 in the past few months.
      These Kiwiblog Posts are really working for you!
      (You just know, like Pavlovs Dog, he is going put some more up in response to this. What a child- lol)
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:30am
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        It has just been an archival website for many years … since October 2012 and the time of Bill Englishs announcement following the Prod Comm report April.
        
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        November 11, 2018 11:45am
Keeping Stock

Heather du Plessis Allan will be on the persona non grata list for the Ninth Floor today. She’s put the boot into ILG and the PM. She closes off thus:

There are three reasons the PM needs to sack Lees-Galloway. First, few are going to have much faith in future immigration decisions he makes. Second, he’s made Jacinda Ardern and Deputy PM Winston Peters look bad. The PM stuck her neck out for him with her “read between the lines” defence of his decision. She’s wasted political capital on him. Third, he’s making this Government look inept. Again.

I say again because it’s a recurring theme. From the start, ministers have looked either out of their depth, run off their feet or like student politicians who haven’t clocked that they’re in real-life government. Policies weren’t ready to go. Clare Curran didn’t understand the boundaries of public office. The PM didn’t know what GDP stood for.

It’s nice to look like a bunch of hipsters. Love the beards. Love the designer clothing. Love the recycling vibe. Love the Instagrammable photos in New York. Would love it even more if they could look like they knew what they were doing. It’s been more than a year.

Sacking Lees-Galloway is a tough one for the PM. It’s not a good look having to sack a third minister in three months. But it’s surely better than letting him stay, and telling the public that this kind of sloppiness is just fine in her Government.

Surely she’ll want to signal that she expects more than this.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12157560

And you know what? She’s absolutely, dead-set on the money. Lees-Galloway is like an albatross around her neck, and it’s starting to stink the joint up.
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November 11, 2018 10:13am
- sooty
  
  It’s not going to end nicely!
  Will it bring down the COL?
  Whinney has a stinking bird around his neck!
  Who’s the next one to fall?
  It’s bad when they are all lining up in a row!
  How much do 153 talkfest cost to run?
  Totally unprepared to govern!
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:44am
  - sooty
    
    Thank you HPDA, for starting one of the discussions that we need to clear the air!
    Too much has been left too read between the lines and my take is that Jetro is donkey deep in the middle of the bad cheque saga!
    Lees Galloway is too dumb to think all of this on his own. He got told what his position is!
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:52am
  - RF
    
    You ask who is the next one to fall after ILG.
    
    Going by headlines this morning concerning Kiwi Build being on life support I predict Twyford will be having his neck measured for the noose.
    
    If there’s a power crisis 3 pies will be next in line for the chop.
    
    Comrade Cindy is running out of ministers….
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:51pm
    - stigie
      
      She always has Willy Jackson to fall back on ? //
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:03pm
      - sooty
        
        Willie do some work!
        You got to be kidding!
        
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        November 11, 2018 2:09pm
      - PhilP
        
        Stiigie you should have added (sarc) at the end of your comment for clarity. Bwahahaha!
        
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        November 11, 2018 3:19pm
      - stigie
        
        I get offended when people put 3 i/s in my name……
        Does this mean im a fucking snowflake and should be voting Labour next time..?
        
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        November 11, 2018 3:35pm
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Willie do some work!
        You got to be kidding!
        
        Aw; that’s REALLY unfair. Feathering your own nest and turning backflips in the process is hard work 😀
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:30pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Funny enough, I’ve just been passed some correspondence between Cindy and Phil. It seems Cindy is getting nervous. It goes…
      
      Dear Phil,
      
      This Prime Minister job is really good fun, so many parties and everybody says such nice things. I don’t want the fun to end. But right now there are a few things that are getting me a little worried and I might have to appear nasty and horrid, which I don’t like because it makes me look like a nasty school girl.
      The first worrying thing was there weren’t any nice stories about me and baby Neve, don’t the papers know how important it is that New Zealanders get to see photos of and hear all about Neve?
      
      The second horrible thing is that mean stories keep on being printed about Iain, and now they have started writing horrible stories about KiwiBuild. Last week at our conference and with the help of our friends in the media we were meant to change the headlines away from the nasty news about the government to news stories about what we are promising to do and have yet to do, like helping the Maori people and doing more to encourage TeReo.
      
      Instead when I read the papers, I read Barry’s wifey (I thought Uncle Winnie said Barry would make sure Heather stayed in line?) being horrid in her column and writing that I should sack Iain.
      
      Why?
      
      Iain did nothing wrong, he made the decision he was asked to make. His only mistake was he did not bury the decision until it was too late for any other course of action once the Czech was out of jail.
      
      Now we’ve got a review being done by INZ, about what information they gave Iain in the file to support the deportation. As we now know Iain didn’t read the ghastly big file, so it is irrelevant what information was or wasn’t in the file, if Iain didn’t read the file how was he to know what questions to ask?
      
      So, when the review findings come back, they’ll point to Iain not doing his “job”, but he did, he made the decision we wanted, it was just not the decision they expected.
      
      It’s so unfair on Iain because I’ll then have to tell him off for doing what we told him to do, which was not to do what he was suppose to do.
      
      What do you think I should do? I so, hate putting on that pained school girl look, looking like I’ve done everything possible, that I’ve done nothing wrong and then I have to look tough and deal to Iain. That is so mean, because it makes me look ugly.
      
      The other report that they keep talking about is that Wally Haumaha promotion. I do not understand what we did wrong here? Uncle Winnie told us that Wally was a good guy and the right man for the job, so I appointed him. But then all these nasty women start saying Wally is truly horrible, Uncle Winnie says he’ll fix it, but still I hear people saying really horrid things about Wally and his connections with Winnie. Don’t they know, they are just good friends? Anyhow the report comes back this week and Stuart will have to be seen to be strong with it when he buries it, otherwise Uncle Winnie will be very angry.
      
      Finally, I read another article in the NZ Herald. It seems they wrote a story that was given to them by that nasty old battle axe Judith Collins. That women just will not rest with her attacks on you and your wonderful schemes to “fix Auckland”. Please tell me that the story I read was not correct. Who would be silly enough to go and sign a contract to build over 3,000 homes and not know where they are going to be built? There must be a mistake in that story, surely there are more than 388 people qualifying for KiwiBuild, you told me we needed 100,000 KiwiBuild homes over 10 years. Even to me, and I’m not good with numbers, but there don’t seem to be enough people wanting our 100,000 homes. I’m a little worried by your numbers.
      
      Then if I look at your other portfolio thingie, as Minister of Transport I am worried you don’t seem to know what you are doing and that you are going to waste a lot of money in Auckland when we don’t need to. You told me to say “that Auckland’s Transport is a basket case” and that by having the tram to the airport and Sky/SeaPaths we will fix Auckland’s transport problems. I know I am not that clever, but please remind me how is a tram from the city to the airport and Sky/SeaPath going to solve the peak hour traffic flows that don’t go to the airport? Or how is all the spending in Auckland going to help the people of the Kapiti Coast or Northland? Please Phil, reassure me that you are really not a Twitford and that I’ll have to sack you for being incompetent, because after I sack Iain, I wouldn’t want to have to sack you.
      
      As always, your bestest friend from Auckland,
      
      Cindy.
      
      and Phil replied….
      
      Dear Cindy,
      
      I know it has been a difficult few weeks for you, because until Neve start teething or crawling, there will not be an opportunities to put happy stories in the papers about Neve. Just wait to the holidays, they are not far away and there will be plenty of opportunities for happy family stories for Kiwis to read and be very grateful for you.
      
      Regarding those bad news stories, you really shouldn’t worry your silly little head about them. Winnie has assured us we will be okay, all we have to do is do as he says.
      
      For example with regards to Iain, the line is:
      1. Iain gave his decision full consideration;
      2. Iain evaluated all information in front of him – he just had to make sure the fill was not in front of him; and
      3. With the information he saw (note nobody is asking what information Iain saw), he would make the same decision again.
      
      Regarding the Wally Haumaha appointment, once again we use the same responses as in Iain’s situation.
      1. As per the information you received…
      2. You all evaluated all relevant information in front of you; and
      3. Based on the same information and in the same circumstances you would make the same decision.
      
      Who is to say in either Iain’s case or with you and Wally Haumaha that you evaluated all information and would have come to different decisions?
      
      As for myself, why should you doubt me? John Campbell did so much work at RNZ proving there were homeless people needing houses, why should we doubt him? The people are just shy and have put there names down, but we’ll find them and we’ll build them their houses.
      
      As for Auckland’s bad transport, why are you doubting me? Auckland is a big city (well by NZ standards), so it stands to reason that Auckland’s traffic will be a basket case especially when you compare it to Ruawai.
      
      Have faith, the holidays will be here soon and you can work on your happy smile for next year’s Waitangi celebrations. It’ll all be fine.
      
      Your amazingly busy Auckland friend,
      Phil Twitford (make sure you get my name write).
      
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      November 11, 2018 5:27pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Brilliant. You can have all my upticks for next week.
        
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        November 11, 2018 9:02pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Well Winnie has taken on JLR so I suppose he could take on Lees-Galloway, and any others they will fit well within his party.
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:05pm
- GazzaW
  
  She has to get rid of ILG if there’s to be any hope for Labour of burying this issue once and for all. The Nats have smelt blood in the water and Simon will go after SLG whilst Mitchell and Woodhouse take down ILG in the next Parliamentary session. This is turning into a weeping sore for Labour and there are very strong hints of even worse to come.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:59am
  - Viking2
    
    The Nats. need to be careful for who knows which of their MP’s etc are close to this.
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:09am
    - toby1845
      
      I almost hope one of them is. That way Simon Bridges can sack him/her, and provide another marker between him and SLG.
      
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      November 11, 2018 7:54pm
  - Paulus
    
    I understand that his former first surname is not Lees Galloway – he changed it to Galloway (his Grandmothers name) after a fight with his father and then again when he married a Lees – (she may regret that now).
    Kings College and Union something at Massey so called University then in the Nurses Union.
    What inspiration !
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:17am
    - sooty
      
      Whos name comes first the bride or the grome?
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:29am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Correct – he was formerley Iain Whiteley. I posted about it on the ILG thread yesterday, so won’t repeat myself today, but it is a matter of public record.
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:29am
      - kowtow
        
        At least he didn’t call himself Iain Pakehaley.
        
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        November 11, 2018 3:35pm
    - Tall Man
      
      FFS..are you sure he married a woman not a hairy she beast?
      
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      November 11, 2018 12:35pm
    - igm
      
      The way he behaves and company he keeps, along with general looks, he will be changing his name again, to Muhammad, Ismail, or maybe plain scumbag.
      
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      November 11, 2018 6:09pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    We must keep the pressure on Iain Please Gallopaway and whoever he is protecting.
    The future of our country is at stake.
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:58am
- harvey wilson
  
  Damn , that’s right on the money
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:06am
- Viking2
  
  Ah but who will he take with him. Lawnmowers are in short supply, the fishing spots are getting crowded.
  Kick boxers are just about persa non grata these days and according the the commissioner the police are going to put the gangs out of the drug trade.
  
  Who is going to attempt to stitch together a deal that won’t be busted?
  
  And, given Pete’s naming and shaming this morning who else in Parliament will be wrapped up in all of this.
  
  We, after all have not got to the bottom of the children’s ideaology party at Waitapheta yet. Where there is booze there is almost certainly drugs.
  From an outsider looking in, politics and Parliament stink.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:07am
- peterwn
  
  Jacinda and co cannot afford to ‘cut off’ journos especially if they are fearless successful ones.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:34pm
  - sooty
    
    Do we have any?
    HDPA has started the questions.
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:12pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  And if ILG thought long and hard about this difficult decision for all of eight minutes, I want all his other decisions reviewed.
  What other criminal scum do we have running around in aye-o- tee-a-rower thanks to this incompetent minister?
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:19pm
  - peterwn
    
    He should heed the advice of an old fashioned bank manager to a young man interested in a banking career – “Learn to say ‘no’, laddie. Learn to say ‘no’.”
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:44pm
  - Paulus
    
    He originally said it took him eight minutes to read the Summary.
    Now its all arse about face !
    
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    November 11, 2018 3:55pm
- greybeard
  
  HDPA’s main problem is that about 80% of the time she is spot-on with her critical assessments of the crap “government” then for some reason she decides to condone their behaviour.
  At least we know where we are with Hosking and Williams.
  Can the real HDPA please come forward ?
  
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  November 11, 2018 7:20pm
secondcumming

Halloween’s over, and I’m getting sick and tired of kids knocking on the door. When are they going to realize I’m not letting them out of the basement.
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November 11, 2018 10:20am
Odakyu-sen

“Let us Remember” all those who gave their lives to prevent the spread of an ideology dedicated to global totalitarian control.

In the meantime, let’s invite into the country people who subscribe to an ideology dedicated to global totalitarian control.

Someone hasn’t learned from history.
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November 11, 2018 10:21am
- Jazzby
  
  Well said. This time, however, the danger is far greater because the the threat is so insidious. There’s no “front line”; the infiltration is everywhere, and it uses our strengths – tolerance, freedom, democratic representation – against us.
  My fear is that we’ll wake up when it’s too late.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:22pm
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    “Hard times create strong men.
    Strong men create good times.
    Good times create weak men.
    And, weak men create hard times.”
    
    ― G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:39pm
  - kowtow
    
    The problem is the “it” using our strengths against us is the political class .
    
    Point out who in the Establishment is actively standing up against the inflow, if anything they’re encouraging them.
    
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    November 11, 2018 3:37pm
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Let us not rush to judgement because President Trump failed to attend a scheduled centennial memorial ceremony at a US military cemetery in France. After all:
– it was raining
– his job requires up to 7 hours a day of ‘executive time’, ie. watching Fox News and sending increasingly unhinged tweets
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November 11, 2018 10:34am
- Steve (North Shore)
  
  Did Trump cancel? or was it the call of the helicopter pilot? I think the pilot in the interests of safety.
  Media are spinning the usual bullshit.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:39am
  - MCos
    
    I wonder how Chief of Staff General John Kelly and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Joe Dunford got there?
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:02am
    - All_on_Red
      
      When you find out, let us know.
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:16am
  - MCos
    
    Ben Rhodes, who served as deputy national security adviser for strategic communications under President Barack Obama, said the excuse about the inclement weather did not stand up.
    
    “I helped plan all of President Obama’s trips for 8 years,” he wrote on Twitter. “There is always a rain option. Always.”
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:07am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Uhuh
      So what was the option?
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:15am
      - MCos
        
        Lime Electric Scooter
        
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        November 11, 2018 11:24am
- Morrissey
  
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  Trump’s cringe-inducing attack on Jim Acosta the other day, followed by another one at the journalist who stood up for his colleague, reminded me of a teacher who is way out of his depth and has lost control of the class.
  
  I was disappointed—actually, angry—that the whole of the media present did not walk out on the ranting fool.
  
  Of course, any teacher that had so completely lost the plot would be long gone; in politics as degraded as it has become in the United States, it’s a different matter.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:46am
  - holysheet
    
    Morrissey got an internet advert asking if he wanted to improve his sex life.
    He answered all the questions and waited for the advice.
    It was a short answer.
    Change hands.
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:53am
    - Morrissey
      
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      Oh that’s a good one. How we all laughed.
      
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      November 11, 2018 10:56am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Why was Trump wrong Morrisey? I think Trumps a tool but he was right . Acosta should have passed the microphone on and the point Acosta was trying to make was bizarrely nonsensical.
        
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        November 11, 2018 11:08am
      - Tall Man
        
        Your hatred for Trump is as confusing as your love for Ardern the lliar.
        
        At least Trump, for all his failings, was voted in by his countrymen and has managed to keep most of his promises.
        
        Ardern the liar though, selected by 37% of New Zealand so 67% didn’t want her, then elevated by the most dishonest and deviant politician we have ever had in Parliament. Does that make you happy? I’m sure it does because your posts are the posts of a very disturbed person.
        
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        November 11, 2018 12:19pm
  - Viking2
    
    any teacher who lost or losses control of their class room should not be there.
    This prick demonstrated what an arse he was. Still I can tell when people are being rude after being tolds to sit down.
    Obviously you can’t.
    Are you a teacher or just a stupid prick?
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:14am
    - pentwig
      
      V2
      Morrissdancer has certainly not been watching parliament and the ex teacher “ducky” trying to control his classroom!
      
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      November 11, 2018 12:31pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Acosta has had this coming for a long time. If you continue to be a loudmouth prick something is going to happen. I was waiting for Trump to give him a knuckle sandwich, but we all know Trump is above that.
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:14am
  - All_on_Red
    
    ‘actually, angry’
    Poor triggered snowflake
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:14am
  - Tall Man
    
    Are you as worthless a person as you seem?
    
    Your life is so empty that you have to come onto this forum and post absolute drivel?
    
    You really have no grasp on the real world do you?
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    and you….nothing.
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:14pm
- Jules99
  
  Trump would have been very aware that this is a bad look, and that, with his much-repeated respect for the military, it tells me that the reason was likely to be very serious and not weather related. Perhaps an assassination attempt? There have, no doubt, been many attempts on his life already with the bitter hatred fuelled by the media and various celebrities asking why he hasn’t been ‘JFKd’ yet. If he really is taking down the deep state, then those assassins will be the best money can buy.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:31pm
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Tom Barker

Did you forget that Helen Klark repeatedly refused to attend dawn parade whilst she was PM because she “does not do mornings”?
Or, is it different when the left do it?
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November 11, 2018 10:38am
- Nostradamus
  
  A spokeswoman for Clark confirmed the New Zealand PM would not be attending a dawn service, but would attend several other Anzac Day events.
  
  “She hasn’t done a dawn service for years. She did one in Gallipoli in 2005, but she doesn’t do dawn services for Maori events either,” she said.
  
  Source:
  https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/world/nz-pm-will-not-attend-anzac-dawn-service-20070424-998.html
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:46am
  - backster
    
    At least her ex Minister for wine and Cheese ‘Jumbo’ someone when High Commissioner in London sat in his car while attending this days remembrance in London.
    
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    November 11, 2018 10:58am
  - Paulus
    
    At least Peters was at the Twickenham match and laid a wreath along side Harry who is twice Peter’s size.
    Peters look like a jerk.
    Sorry he is !
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:20am
    - sooty
      
      Is Goff at the parade?
      Did someone spit on him?
      
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      November 11, 2018 11:33am
      - igm
        
        Was he not also known to have thrown paint as well.
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:40pm
    - stigie
      
      Yeah, but he backs Iain Sleaze Galloway..?
      
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      November 11, 2018 12:29pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Let’s not forget Cunliffe playing with his phone while on the dignatories dias at an Anzac service.
  These Labour wankers don’t respect anyone or anything.
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:24pm
  - igm
    
    Clark’s father was a conscientious objector, not sure about Cunliffe’s, but heard someone in his family was . . . that is obviously the Labour way.
    Cunliffe wanted to apologise to Japan for our being involved with US during WWII and the subsequent dropping of the bombs; also for the shooting of dangerous prisoners in Wairarapa.
    He also wanted to see the end of the RSA movement.
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:45pm
Yvette

Police will not be taking part in Auckland’s Pride Parade in February – because they say they have been banned from wearing their uniforms. Instead, the Pride Festival board told officers they must wear T-shirts instead of their uniforms, says Inspector Tracy Phillips.

A spokesperson for the Auckland Pride Board said there was “goodwill towards the NZ Police” but that they did not “currently meet the degree of safety and awareness of intersectionality required by our rainbow communities“.

What part of wearing an official Police uniform does not “currently meet the degree of safety and awareness of intersectionality required by our rainbow communities“?
When an intersectional person requires assistance and calls 111 and asks for Police help, will they also ask that the officer, or officers concerned, attend whatever incident it may be, in a t-shirt to display their awareness of intersectionality
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November 11, 2018 10:39am
- kevn
  
  @Yvette… and this stance is after the police did a patrol car all pretty in rainbow make-up.
  The PP organizer must be part of the clown conspiracy.
  Clowns are everywhere.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:48am
  - igm
    
    What about the poofter crossing in Wellington!
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:46pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Good.
  
  While the gays, lesbians, transexuals and cross-dressers have their street party, the police can do their day jobs and hopefully find a few murderers, rapists and other scumbags to lock up!
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:50am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Yes, the job they are paid to do.
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:10pm
- dubya
  
  The Pride Parade has been hijacked by identity politics weirdos (quelle surprise – and I say this as a gay man). Apparently the police are biased against transgender people, based on allegations from one particular transvestite.
  
  Also, there have been calls to ban the Israeli embassy from having a float (despite Israel being the only place in the Middle East, besides the Emirates flight attendant compound in Dubai, that it’s safe to be a homosexual).
  
  I won’t be attending.
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:51am
  - Swifty
    
    Good on you dubya.
    
    I’ve often wondered what it must be like being a member of a ‘minority community’ having (at times self-appointed) ‘representatives’ of that community proclaiming the supposed beliefs of that community – and where those supposed beliefs are contrary to your own.
    
    I’ve thought it in regards to the LGBT, Islamic, Maori, PI communities and, for me, it would absolutely grind my gears.
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:23pm
    - dubya
      
      I’m broadly a libertarian and an individualist, which puts me at odds with most of the ‘gay community’.
      
      That said, there are a decent minority within the minority, who aren’t beholden to the leftie rubbish and the Ardern love fest. A lot of gays are high earners and don’t see the upper and middle classes as our enemy. Indeed, most of the homophobic bile I have been subjected to comes from the working class and the underclass. I’ve said it here before but when gays ask me why I don’t support Labour, I respond that I don’t particularly want to give away a large proportion of my earnings to enable bogan scum who called me a faggot at school to become grandparents by 30.
      
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      November 11, 2018 2:11pm
      - Inandout
        
        dubya, you would be dead meat in any Muslim controlled country, and ostracised by NZ Muslims. Why does the Left cuddle up to these Middle Age beasts?
        
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        November 11, 2018 3:54pm
      - Swifty
        
        What sort of response do you get? 🙂
        
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        November 11, 2018 5:38pm
      - dubya
        
        Swifty, suffice to say I don’t have that many gay friends! Doesn’t bother me especially, though.
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:12pm
      - dubya
        
        Inandout, quite. Israel is a beautiful place and Tel Aviv amongst the most friendly places to feel free to be yourself. Why any gay man would side with the hardline conservative Islamic terrorists of Hamas is beyond my comprehension.
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:18pm
- backster
  
  As a former member.’.Praise the Lord’. They made a decision the Police heirarchy were too gutless to make.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:00am
- Swifty
  
  I wonder if we’ll ever hear a NZ politician saying this in regards to burqa wearers, when banning the wearing of them in public:
  
  “We are banning them as they do not currently meet the degree of safety and awareness of intersectionality required by our non-Islamic communities”
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:26pm
- Huevon
  
  I bet the organisers of the Pride Parade are all demented leftists of the first order, so I’m not going to try to understand the ideological niceties behind this decision.
  
  Whatever the reason, the Police (NZDF and other emergency services) should not be giving official endorsements of this festival. Fine if they go personally and get fisted or whatever goes on at these things, no problem with me. But I really don’t like how public institutions kowtow to the LGBT fanatics by officially marching in this event.
  
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  November 11, 2018 3:36pm
- LTA1955
  
  That is just tragic in so many ways, if you lose your rag with the cops it doesn’t matter what colour, ethnicity or sexual orientation you will still be arrested. What part is a tee shirt going to play your arrest…….words fail here. Dumbass stupidity is a start
  
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  November 11, 2018 4:49pm
Spam

Lawes was clearly offside.
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November 11, 2018 10:46am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Brilliant game of rugby despite the atrocious conditions. All Blacks were poor at times and Aaron Smith looks a shadow of his past self but England were very impressive; that first 30 minutes of theirs was arguably the best I’ve seen from any team this year. They’ll be a real contender next year.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:17am
  - Colville
    
    Aaron Smith and SBW both for the dustbin IMHO.
    
    Its not as tho we dont have shelves full of spares…
    
    But fu*king great game. I was nervous!!
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:12pm
  - andydownhere
    
    It was TJ Perenara’s slow box kick that nearly cost the game. Also Perenara’s dummy or slow passes make it look like opposition off side, but they arent, he is just slow getting it away. A dynamo runner, but passing, not so much. Aaron Smith anyday
    
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    November 11, 2018 8:43pm
Tauhei Notts

Travellers’ Tales. They can bore the excrement out of you so here goes.
I returned from Aussie late Friday. I had been to Flemington in the rain on Tuesday, and did ok on the punt.
But I also spent a lot of time and money drinking grog and chatting to common Aussies. I found a profound distrust of politicians amongst them. This latest Scott Morrison elevation to Prime Minister has pissed them off in a big way. Aussies have always criticised their politicians, but this time there was a real hatred brewing there.
I wonder if a Donald Trump emerged there, that he might find a huge receptive audience. No, not Pauline Hansen; she is another sick joke.
Let’s see how this plays out.
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November 11, 2018 10:48am
- Morrissey
  
  Australian politicians are the lowest of the low.
  
  “In Canberra last week I met some Australian members of parliament. It gave me hope, because until I heard them speak I had always thought that Israel’s right wing politicians were the worst. —-(LAUGHTER)— I’ve never heard any Israeli politician speak about the Palestinian people the way that those Australian politicians did. But they are Australia’s problem, not mine. (LAUGHTER) I spoke with the Australian foreign minister; she talked and she was very nice but we could not agree on anything. (LAUGHTER)…”
  
  —GIDEON LEVY, speaking in Auckland, Dec. 3, 2017
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/unbelievable-brutality-day-after-day.html
  
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  November 11, 2018 10:55am
  - Morrissey
    
    Three moronic supporters of the lowest human beings on the planet have registered their foolish existence.
    
    Go and watch a Bill Cosby video, you halfwits.
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:01am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Maybe you should migrate then, raise the IQ of both countries?
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:02am
- Inandout
  
  Aussie is lost sadly, and we can only hope one of the snakes in their parliament gets their Islamic best. I was in a Brisbane cafe on 11 November 2015 and there were soldiers selling poppies. At 11 am the Last Post was broadcast on the CBD speakers and everyone in the cafe stood to attention. I was proud to join them.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:07am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    In NZ we don’t even play last post daily at the RSA any more.
    
    Add to that the disgraceful disgusting action of Napier City Council turning the War Memorial Hall into a conference centre and ‘mystappearing’ the eternal flame and memorial plaques.
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:25pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  I think Scott Morrison’s popularity will go through the roof after he called a spade a spade yesterday:
  
  “I am the first to protect religious freedom in this country, but it also means I must be the first to call out religious extremism,” he said.
  
  “Religious extremism takes many forms around the world, and no religion is immune from it … But here in Australia, we would be kidding ourselves if we did not call out the fact that the greatest threat of religious extremism … is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam.”
  
  https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bourke-street-attack-scott-morrison-demands-muslim-leaders-call-this-out-for-what-it-is-20181110-p50f9f.html
  
  Full marks to the bloke for at least saying what many politicians think, but dare not utter.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:02pm
  - stephieboy
    
    KS,
    
    “.. the greatest threat of religious extremism … is the radical and dangerous ideology of extremist Islam.”
    
    The penny has finally dropped?
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:58pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Ardern is a liar.
      
      steffy is too timid the step out of the labour lines nd comment on the corruption over the Czech drug dealer.
      
      steffy is a girl
      
      Ardern is a liar.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:08pm
    - simpleton1
      
      Mohammad was never radical.
      Mohammad was never an extremist.
      So stephieboy is right. 🙂
      
      Mohammad gave wonderful advice, guidance, sayings, showing in actions, and deeds throughout the koran. “Naskh” helped to give great importance to certain verses over other verses. Those verses are supported with hadith and sunnah for his followers.
      
      The words of the Lord are perfect in truth and justice;
      there is NONE who can change His words.
      He both heareth and knoweth.
      — Sura 6:115
      None can change the words of God;
      — Sura 6:34
      There is no changing the words of God;
      that is the mighty triumph.
      — Sura 10:64
      And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord,
      there is none who can alter His words;
      and you shall not find any refuge besides Him.
      — Sura 18:27 http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=10&verse=64
      
      Islam is just islam and so do not blaspheme, belittle . or insult the ‘messenger’ in pointing out who may or may not be radical or extreme or changing his word.
      Who can change what the “perfect man”, Mohammad told and practiced?
      
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      November 11, 2018 5:33pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Mohammed was a pedophile, nothing more, nothing less.
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:15pm
      - simpleton1
        
        Without “moderates” the extremists would not get away with it and without extremists the moderates would not be supremacist; “the protected species” for stealth jihad.
        
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        November 11, 2018 9:45pm
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, but the greatst threat is just islam, all islam allmuslims, all mosques.
    They caus eproblems and eveil wherever they are.
    Pakistan
    Nigeria
    Syria
    Egypt
    Indonesia
    Malaysia
    Australia
    France
    Afghanistan
    Kenya
    Somalia
    
    Islam is really a law and a means of the older men controlling everything.
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:10pm
Monique Watson

Goodbye KiwiBuild.
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November 11, 2018 11:00am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Why would anyone of sound mind want to sign up for an overpriced tenement-style apartment when they have no idea how many Housing NZ clients are going to be shacked up all around them?
  Pack your bags Twitford. You’re a disgrace.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:09pm
  - artemisia
    
    Some social housing numbers have been released – 800 on the densely populated Unitec site, 30% at another development but I forget which one.
    
    If Kiwibuild properties don’t sell, good chance some will be picked up for social housing. On top of the social housing already factored in to the development.
    
    If the neighbourhood heads downscale, as seems very likely, those Kiwibuild lottery winners might not be too happy if they can’t onsell. Cue Housing NZ to step in and remove the issue from the front pages using their off-the-books loan funding.
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:31pm
big bruv

International rugby (at least where the NZ team are involved) has become as corrupt as cricket.
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November 11, 2018 11:10am
- JibberJabber
  
  He was offside by a country mile…
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:13am
  - Viking2
    
    Has Bruv been along yet to tell us the pomms were robbed?
    
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    November 11, 2018 11:18am
  - James Stephenson
    
    Bullshit, Perenara took three weeks to make his clearing kick
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:19pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      The metre that Lawes cribbed is the difference between a kick being successfuly taken, or the ball being charged down. Lawes was clearly offside, and not even Eddie Jones is moaning about it.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:23pm
      - James Stephenson
        
        Jones never comments, it’s his policy.
        
        Lawes is onside and the only England player is lying on the ground in front of him. He appears to become offside when an AB guard dog steps towards him but it’s the rearmost player on your own team that defines the offside line, ergo he remains onside and the chargedown is good. Try, England win.
        
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        November 11, 2018 2:13pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Ovbviouslty you refer to the Farrell high shot on Pollard last week that went unpunished.
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:18am
  - James Stephenson
    
    It wasn’t high, the debate was about the degree of involvement of his arm, not about where he was hit (right in the middle of his chest).
    
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    November 11, 2018 12:20pm
    - Colville
      
      It was the no arms that meant he should have been pinged.
      the contact shoulder had the arm vertical down the front of the player, no effort whatsoever to wrap around.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:18pm
- Tall Man
  
  WTF are you talking about.
  
  Stop drinking, have a wee sleep and come back later and apologise for being a tool.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:28pm
  - Aliog
    
    Good advice, Tall Man – how about taking it yourself?
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:01pm
    - Tall Man
      
      At least my posts have a semblance of reason.
      
      “we were robbed” never makes sense to me.
      
      There were 15 guys on the field for England, 15 for New Zealand. They all did their best and I for one thought the refs had a good game in pretty shitty conditions.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:11pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Jacinda never lies!
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:02pm
    - Morrissey
      
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      Come on, stephie: she once worked for Tony Bliar himself. She’s far preferable to Dunnokeyo John and the rest of that sorry rabble in opposition, but she is certainly not perfect.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:04pm
    - Tall Man
      
      So she worked for Tony Blair but never met him. Don’t you find that odd? I’m quite sure Sir John Key met all his staff. I have worked in some very large organisations and the person in charge knew the whole team.
      
      Either “worked” is a euphemism for something else or there is a back story.
      
      Ardern stated she has reviewed “all” the information given to lees-galloway-whiteley when he himself admitted he hadn’t read all the file info….therefore Ardern lied.
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:15pm
      - Morrissey
        
        I don’t trust her any more than you do, Tall Bloke. But she’s far superior to those two no-hopers who preceded her—-so we’re stuck with her, I’m afraid.
        
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        November 11, 2018 1:18pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Got a mortgage morry minor? If so, say thank you to Sir John Key and Sir William English.
        
        On a benefit morry minor? If so, so thank you to Sir John Key and Sir William English for increasing welfare handouts during the GFC.
        
        Got any mates in Christchurch? WTF am I saying..mates, of course not but do you know anyone in Christchurch? If so, get them so say thank you to Sir John Key and Sir William English for borrowing enough to get infrastructure restored in Christchurch that was inadequately insured by an incompetent council.
        
        Please list the achievements of Ardern the liar?
        
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        November 11, 2018 1:25pm
      - harvey wilson
        
        Morrisey have mates? I doubt it .
        
        I doubt anyone who spews bile on as many forums as he does has many healthy offline relationships. I’d say to too things are actually related , his retreat into cyberspace has damaged his probably already difficult attempts to relate to other people.
        
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        November 11, 2018 2:13pm
    - MCos
      
      Now look what you’ve done, st_by
      There was a good non political discussion going on about what really matters to a bloke & it’s descended into bitterness & acrimony
      
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      November 11, 2018 2:01pm
      - Tall Man
        
        steffy is a girl….
        
        Trust me 🙂
        
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        November 11, 2018 2:49pm
    - softail 1450
      
      septicboy ,and you aren’t a goat harasser …..
      
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      November 11, 2018 3:24pm
secondcumming

We had a ‘PUB QUIZ’ at the gun-club last nite –

What has four letters…..
Sometimes nine…….
And never five.
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November 11, 2018 11:16am
- Aliog
  
  Yes is the answer 🙂
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:01pm
- toby1845
  
  The answer is the word “What”
  
  ‘What’ has four letters. ‘Sometimes’ has nine. ‘Never’ has five.
  
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  November 11, 2018 9:53pm
Manolo

Mueller has a job for life:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/416023-dems-race-to-protect-mueller-probe
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November 11, 2018 11:29am
- All_on_Red
  
  With $40,000,000 spent half his luck!
  
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  November 11, 2018 11:33am
  - stephieboy
    
    All on Red, guess how much was spent and how long the Watergate and Iran Contra investigations took?
    
    The Muller investigation is very, very small by comparison!
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:01pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Ardern is a liar.
      
      No comment from the labour intern on the immigration ministers corrupt decision. I think you are a timid wee girl aren’t you. Only good for ridiculous unrelated posts to try and show tht you are clever wee girl but…you’re not.
      
      Ardern is a liar
      
      steffy is a girl
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:06pm
      - stephieboy
        
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        Jacinda never lies and Tall Boy is a bimbo!
        
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        November 11, 2018 1:12pm
      - Tall Man
        
        ooo, bimbo..consider me cut to the quick.
        
        That’s a very manly insult for a girl to throw out there.
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
        steffy is a girl
        
        Come on steffy, just admit it, you’ll feel better.
        
        Ardern is a liar
        
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        November 11, 2018 1:18pm
    - DJ Ward
      
      Your two examples had something to investigate.
      
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      November 11, 2018 1:19pm
Manolo

We all feel sorry for the Poms, don’t we?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brave-england-thwarted-by-video-ref-ftltsn0rn
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November 11, 2018 11:32am
- Tall Man
  
  Tough game for anyone in that weather and very tough for the All Blacks with the crowd well behind England.
  
  Not a particularly high quality game but a good gritty test and hey, a win so the All Blacks keep the Ed Hillary shield…I think.
  
  Talking of Shields..Brad had a good game.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:25pm
- big bruv
  
  I do, once again they were robbed by the crooked IRB.
  
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  November 11, 2018 12:40pm
  - Longknives
    
    As I mentioned on another thread I pleaded with a mate not to put his $$ on England yesterday.
    He thought England might surprise them on Twickenham (where they are always tough) and saw they were paying generous money on the TAB.
    I told him “You don’t have to be Nostradamus to predict that the Ref will bail the All Blacks out again..”
    The sad thing is most NZ Rugby fans are so one eyed they can’t see what this kind of thing (Protecting the All Black ‘Brand’ over and over again) does to the International game…
    
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    November 11, 2018 1:45pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Knives.
      Specsavers are expecting you at 9.00 in the morning.
      
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      November 11, 2018 2:36pm
    - Salacious Crumb
      
      Haha. Who bailed the BIL’s out last year then?
      
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      November 11, 2018 3:52pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Whereas last week the Springboks weren’t robbed?
    
    Had that challenge been cited I doubt he would have been on the park this morning.
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:58pm
    - Peter S
      
      As a Pom I’d say a close call, wrong procedurally (should have been the red’s call), but probably the correct result overall.
      
      A bit like the non penalty against the Lions, the procedure around the play of the ball was completely botched by the ref, but Reid was only in that position because he had started in front of the kicker at the restart. Again, overall right result but wrong mechanism.
      
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      November 11, 2018 3:51pm
DJ Ward

I was randomly looking on Sarah Dowie MP’s website.

Quote:
“Another highlight this month was hosting Hon Judith Collins in the electorate. I had a very busy day with the Police and Corrections Minister joining Super Blues for morning tea, touring the Invercargill Prison upgrade and meeting with the staff at Invercargill Central Police Station. We ended the day with an inspirational talk by the Minister to the Glass Elevator Women’s networking group.”

If only those parliamentary elevators could network all the dirty secrets on someone. The elevators could then collaborate stopping a person getting to higher floors in the beehive. The bastard kept wanting to press my buttons, and he wasn’t gentle. My repair man is looking for a replacement. Bastard.
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November 11, 2018 12:43pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Did the glass elevator group think women should be able to rise in the ranks without shagging their way to the top, Sarah?
  Just asking.
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:36pm
- secondcumming
  
  I got into an elevator the other day and asked the attendant to take me to the Penthouse.
  
  Just as the doors opened, he said…. “There you go son, top floor”
  
  I thanked him, but asked him not to call me ‘son’.
  
  He said, “Why not, I brought you up didn’t I ?”
  
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  November 11, 2018 2:09pm
DigNap15

Yes today is Armistice day, when we remember all the brave men that fought for us.
Both my grandfathers were on the western front.
Luckily for me, they both came home.
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November 11, 2018 1:13pm
Fletch

I was looking up Poppy Day, and apparently, NZ was originally slated to have Poppy Day on the 11th of November, just like the rest of the world, but the ship carrying the poppies didn’t arrive in time, so they decided to have it on ANZAC Day, where it has remained ever since…

Colonel Alfred Moffatt, suggested the poppy idea to the New Zealand Returned Soldiers’ Association (as the Returned Services’ Association or RSA was originally known) in September 1921. The Returned Soldiers’ Association placed an order for 350,000 small and 16,000 large silk poppies, all made by Madame Guérin’s French Children’s League.

The Returned Soldiers’ Association planned to hold its first Poppy Day appeal around the time of Armistice Day 1921 as other countries were doing. The ship carrying the poppies from France arrived in New Zealand too late for the scheme to be properly publicised. The association decided to wait until the next Anzac Day, 1922.

https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/anzac-day/poppies
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November 11, 2018 1:21pm
- stephieboy
  
  The red poppy adopted as a symbol of remembrance has an interesting background and probably began by the fact that the ” Soldiers” or “ANZAC” poppy grew wild on the western front and in fact, was regarded in peacetime as weed often quickly removed by farmers. This poppy would grow even on the ravaged landscape of the front. It was also observed by the Canadian soldier/ physician that inspired his famous poem” In Flanders Fields” and it is likely that this where the tradition began. The public and soldiers took an instant liking to the poem with its famous and memorable lines about the red poppies,
  
  https://www.history.com/news/world-war-i-poppy-remembrance-symbol-veterans-day
  
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  November 11, 2018 1:40pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Nice google work steffy girl however..
    
    Ardern is a liar
    
    steffy is a girl
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:53pm
Longknives

They announced a moment’s silence at 11am at the Shopping Mall I had popped into this morning- Which I thought was a nice touch.
90% of people were courteous and respectful and either stood or went about their business in silence.
There were a couple of young ‘Millennial’ age girls sitting in the Foodcourt- To the disgust of quite a few of us one of them started yelling something about ‘We shouldn’t glorify murder!’ and ‘Fuck Soldiers’ while her friend laughed loudly and scoffed chips.
Jacinda and Golriz would be proud…
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November 11, 2018 1:39pm
- Pharmachick
  
  Did anybody tell them to shut their gobs?
  
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  November 11, 2018 2:28pm
  - Tall Man
    
    They’d scream rape and run down to the police station.
    
    My uncle died and my father and 2 of his brothers were changed men by their mental scars according to my mother and aunties.
    
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    November 11, 2018 2:52pm
    - Pharmachick
      
      Yes, well, in future: try to get as many people as you can to turn towards them and stand, staring stonily, in silence, at them. A critical mass of 10 or more should do it.
      
      Snowflakes today have no mechanisms for coping with public shame.
      
      And yes, my grandfather (as well as his brother and cousin) were interned in Stalag 8, and my great uncle was in Changi.
      
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      November 11, 2018 3:12pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  LK, perhaps you should have asked the skanks why they weren’t speaking Japanese or German.
  
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  November 11, 2018 4:44pm
- DJ Ward
  
  If war broke out these same girls would be the same ones running around giving feathers to fighting age men but not at war yet.
  After the war they will put up signs, like the one in Huntly. When the troops came home, the real war began.
  
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  November 11, 2018 4:54pm
- mark15
  
  Indeed.
  My wife and I were at the cenotaph in 2011,it was standing room only.I’ve never seen so many people in one place.As the 11.00 gun went,every single person went silent..for about 20 seconds.One of the anti-war hippies camped out on the lawn started to shout “stop all wars”…
  That’s what they were trying to do,you disrespectful moron.
  
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  November 12, 2018 8:36am
Swifty

Hugh Pavletich is a wanker.
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…..see hyperlink below…

https://www.google.co.nz/search?rlz=1C1GCEU_enNZ820NZ820&ei=1XnnW975G9vt9QOVpKH4Ag&q=kiwiblog.co.nz+hugh++wanker&oq=kiwiblog.co.nz+hugh++wanker&gs_l=psy-ab.3…32073.32073.0.32908.1.1.0.0.0.0.197.197.0j1.1.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0….0.YhyN1RUsN3U
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Also, repost from 7 November, Swifty comments:
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https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_7_november_2018.html#comment-2353585
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November 11, 2018 1:41pm
DigNap15

And the really sad thing is that quite a few soldiers died on that last day, even after the armistice was announced to them.
They carried on fighting, sometimes of necessity and sometimes due to some officer wanting to make a name for himself by capturing a bridge or whatever.
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November 11, 2018 1:44pm
- Fletch
  
  Is like that famous final scene in the movie All Quiet on the Western Front from 1930. It’s from the perspective of a German soldier but could apply to any side.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMlDPsRwZE4
  
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  November 11, 2018 2:14pm
Biscuit

Today’s Daily Dose of Kiwiblog General Comment in a nutshell…

Hugh ‘enthralling’ us again with his latest multi-linked spiel

Big Bruv wanting to rubbish anything and everything about the All Blacks

The Phantom Downticker ready with his scathing critique on almost any posted comment

ILG opening the thread, hands over eyes, hoping that today the meanies won’t be so nasty to him

Morrissey being Morrissey…

Me getting at least one good guffaw (Thanks, holysheet, 9.57am and secondcumming, 10.20am!, Brilliant…)
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November 11, 2018 1:56pm
dcrown

Trump has driven the Rats so batshit crazy they are brazenly trying to steal an election.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2018/11/09/republican-protesters-start-lock-her-up-chant-florida-election-chief-botching-ballot-count/
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November 11, 2018 2:40pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  Broward county, the new Bermuda triangle or perhaps the new Area 51?
  Where the phantom ballot boxes just keep appearing.
  
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  November 11, 2018 4:58pm
- Fletch
  
  Yep, a judge ordered them to complete the count and hand over all ballots by 7pm – and they just ignored it…
  
  https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/11/10/what-the-hell-broward-and-palm-beach-counties-ignore-court-ruling-on-vote-counts-n2535700
  
  A history of fraud, and with that same woman in charge.
  
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  November 11, 2018 4:58pm
Jack5

An opinion of the PC, Leftist hack Paul Little in the Hooreald today:

” … you can’t be a New Zealander without te reo any more.”

Little on the web site for the English-language books he publishes describes himself as a former “editor on magazines such as Metro and the New Zealand Listener.”

Little writes – and ghost writes – books, but all in English.

C’mon, Little, put your money where your mouth is and publish your titles in Maori – and don’t forget the macrons.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12156844
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November 11, 2018 3:27pm
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Have a read of this then – PC madness in NZ Universities
  
  https://pointofordernz.wordpress.com/2018/11/08/how-the-supernatural-is-being-merged-with-science-for-kiwi-students/
  
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  November 11, 2018 3:56pm
  - Inandout
    
    SC, that is pure madness. Maori were stone age (wheel less) savages and were scratching around in the dirt while other cultures were constructing huge churches and buildings. Talk about trying to polish a turd.
    
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    November 11, 2018 4:38pm
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Inandout,
      
      While you cannot polish a turd, you can roll it in glitter…
      
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      November 11, 2018 4:47pm
    - Jazzby
      
      Maori and socialists have this in common: they both want to drag the rest of us down to their level.
      
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      November 11, 2018 5:06pm
  - Swifty
    
    I feel sick reading that.
    
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    November 11, 2018 5:50pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes and see how many books you sell!
  
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  November 11, 2018 6:15pm
RW Capitalist

Light hearted Sunday
A woman goes into a pharmacists
Woman: Can I have a bottle of Arsenic?
Pharmacist: Why?
Woman: I wish to kill my husband.
Pharmacist: Then, NO I can’t.
The woman then shows him a photo of her husband in bed with the Pharmacist’s wife.
That’s different, said the pharmacist, you never said you had a prescription.
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November 11, 2018 4:50pm
RW Capitalist

Did you know?
It takes 7 seconds for food to pass from mouth to stomach.
A human hair can hold 3Kg.
The length of a penis is 3x the length of your thumb.
The femur is as hard as concrete.
A woman’s heart beats faster than a man’s.
Women blink 2x as much as men.
We use 300 muscles, to keep our balance when we stand.
A woman has read this entire text, a man is still looking at his thumb.
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November 11, 2018 5:18pm
- krazykiwi
  
  ♦ A pig’s orgasm lasts 30 minutes. (OMG)
  ♦ A cockroach will live nine days without its head before it starves to death. (Creepy. I’m still not over the pig.)
  ♦ The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the male’s head off. (Honey, I’m home . What the…?)
  ♦ The flea can jump 350 times its body length. It’s like a human jumping the length of a football field. (30 minutes. Lucky pig! Can you imagine?)
  ♦ The catfish has over 27,000 taste buds. (What could be so tasty on the bottom of a pond?)
  ♦ Some lions mate over 50 times a day. (I still can’t believe that pig …quality over quantity.)
  ♦ Butterflies taste with their feet. (Something I always wanted to know.)
  ♦ Elephants are the only animals that cannot jump. (Okay, so that would be a good thing.)
  ♦ A cat’s urine glows under a black light. (I wonder how much the government paid to figure that out.)
  ♦ An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain. (I know some people like that.)
  ♦ Starfish have no brains. (I know some people like that, too.)
  ♦ Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (What about that pig? Do the dolphins know about the pig?)
  
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  November 11, 2018 6:11pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    krazykiwi:
    
    Do goats have 30-minute long orgasms? Asking for a *cough* friend *cough*
    
    And can we expect any more early news releases from you? It ensures that Kiwiblog readers are fully-informed about things, and makes a pleasant change from William of Ockham’s 8am missives, which thankfully we haven’t had for a while!
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:16pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Not sure about the goats. Yes, I have a piece of, ah, ‘correspondence’ to share tomorrow 😉
      
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      November 11, 2018 6:21pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    Two blokes are chatting in the pub, and one says to the other “Did you know lions have sex 50 times a day?”
    
    “Bloody hell!” said the other bloke. “I just joined Rotary last week”.
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:37pm
  - Nermal
    
    Actually, that fucking pig can’t jump either. An electric fence set 200mm high will keep them in the paddock.
    But careful, they will check it regularly
    
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    November 11, 2018 8:04pm
  - gravedodger
    
    Poor old rotarians, they must have some thoughts of envy about Lions.
    
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    November 11, 2018 9:16pm
Nostradamus

Mummified cats and beetles found in ancient Egyptian tombs

Archaeologists discover a rare collection of mummified scarab beetles and other artefacts south of Cairo, as well as the door to an extra tomb that appears sealed, meaning its contents may still be untouched.

Sorry Stephieboy, they haven’t confirmed a mummified goat sighting yet, but we’ll cross our fingers and hope that they find one for you!
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November 11, 2018 5:29pm
Hugh Pavletich

… Just the start …

AUSTRALIA: Massive wealth is no defence against Sydney’s plunging market … News Com Au

https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/massive-wealth-is-no-defence-against-sydneys-plunging-property-market/news-story/a725c620153bd70bcb25b49b4ce09cb8

THE EXCLUSIVE harbour enclaves of the super-rich are no exception to the Sydney property downturn, with up to $500,000 being knocked off the value of homes.

While these drops in value may be good news for first-home buyers who have struggled to get a foot on the property ladder, for those at the top end of the market it is leading to eye-watering losses … read more via hyperlink above …

… access earlier posts …

… AUSTRALIA: The bursting housing bubble … continued …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/ubs-aussie-banks-still-univestable/#comment-3222381

… NEW ZEALAND: When does Housing Minister Phil Twyford intend to stop playing games (Kiwibuild) … and instead JUST ALLOW new affordable housing to be built ? …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/11/macro-afternoon-527/#comment-3222887
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November 11, 2018 5:39pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Hugh:
  
  … access earlier posts …
  
  They’ve disappeared. Captain Mainwaring’s clean-up crew must have been through the thread!
  
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  November 11, 2018 5:58pm
  - Swifty
    
    I wonder if there is a Mrs P?
    
    Just imagine, the same old thing day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day after day.
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:18pm
    - nasska
      
      It could be worse. Imagine being reincarnated as Hugh’s proof reader. 🙂
      
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      November 11, 2018 6:27pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        I feel sorry for the person who has to clean up Hugh’s chair after he’s had a (how can I put this?) workout!
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:29pm
      - Swifty
        
        You mean it would look like a house-painter’s overalls?
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:58pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Poor Hugh
    He was being teased before that no one reads his blog
    He replied ‘really’…
    Well, check out the Alexa rating.
    https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/performanceurbanplanning.org
    
    The Global ranking is 17,106,890! Apparently he’s fallen 1,504,267 places in the past three months so his Posts here must be really….putting people off.
    I see they have trouble measuring it due to “Not enough traffic data”
    
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    November 11, 2018 6:26pm
    - nasska
      
      Hugh should be compared with Baity.
      
      truebluenz.com is languishing in the doldrums placed at 12,861,122! 🙂
      
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      November 11, 2018 6:33pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Nasska:
        
        Redbaiter decided to conquer the Twitter world first, and then circle back to blogland with his 20-year conservative plan, so I thought?
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:37pm
      - nasska
        
        Good point Nostra. He’s been tweeting like a love struck schoolgirl for the past four years yet the Great Conservative doesn’t seem to be chalking up many wins.
        
        Meanwhile his Trueblue sycophants & fellow circle jerkers are leaderless! 🙂
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:41pm
      - stigie
        
        Don’t be awwwwful Nasska, it’s about the man not his blog !~
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:43pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        So Redbaiter is a more successful Blogger than Hugh!
        Oh the humanity
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:46pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Redbaiter on 1 October 2013:
        
        RRM, you’re so smug and self satisfied and so damn wrapped up in your delusional little world you’ll never latch on to the simple fact that I am just the vanguard of a political movement that is going to wipe Progressives off the face of the earth. They’ll disappear like the Dodo birds did.
        
        I am spearheading a force that will grow from hundreds to thousands to millions and you will be gone.
        
        That is the way its going to happen and if you had half a clue you’d know that to be the truth.
        
        That was 1868 days ago. It must be a good time to ask Redbaiter how his master plan for global domination is progressing?
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:50pm
      - stigie
        
        But Hugh doesn’t throw insults like Reddy can !~
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:50pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Ah, Nostra. Where would we be without you? A keen memory, and au fait both with Google’s mysterious intricacies, and html’s syntactic delicacies. Bravo!
        
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        November 11, 2018 6:58pm
      - Swifty
        
        Heh. I remember that one Nostra – and I thought at the time that was a rather, er, bold statement to make. 🙂
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:02pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Actually … confession time: I quite liked many of baity’s posts. He believed (believes?) is something other than fashionable progressiveness. I hope he’s doing ok.
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:04pm
      - Swifty
        
        This was quite good too:
        
        “RRM we will defeat you because although you are many you are cowardly and demoralised and disunited. We are few, but brave and honourable and united.”
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:05pm
      - stephieboy
        
        I always thought Redbaiter and All on Red were two lookalikes sharing the same gene pool including the dominant mutant ones!
        
        LOL!
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:14pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Lol, Ralph forgets we know what his Ratface actually looks like!
        And you call us mutants
        Hey Stephie, I notice you’ve been quite restrained lately.
        Did your Mum take the Puter away cause she caught you looking at Goat Porn?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:25pm
      - stephieboy
        
        All on Wed, share with us what’s it like to have only one Mysomy X chromosome? and the missing trisomy X?
        
        Life has its burdens in the genetic lottery?
        
        Yes?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:37pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        HahahahaHaha
        Oh dear. My poor little ratface Stephieboy.
        If only you knew. You’d notice how blessed I am in the Gene dept.
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:43pm
    - DigNap15
      
      Its very interesting to compare Kiwiblog and Whaleoil.
      As I mentioned a year ago Whaleoil were ahead of Kiwiblog in terms of views.
      And if you search for them on that site, they still are.
      Scroll down and look where people come from etc.
      
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      November 11, 2018 7:10pm
      - stephieboy
        
        What errant and missing genes were responsible?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:15pm
      - Swifty
        
        Speaking of defective.
        
        BTW Stiffy, you’ve never answered the question that is on everyone’s lips.
        
        Just what is your malfunction?
        
        Come on, I’m in a good mood, I’m up for a chat about what has happened in your life which has led you to this point.
        
        You know, the loneliness. The rejection. The clutter in your house. The empties stacked up outside. The highlight of your day logging on to KB.
        
        Just what has happened? Where did it all go so wrong?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:22pm
      - nasska
        
        …..”You know, the loneliness. The rejection. The clutter in your house. The empties stacked up outside. The highlight of your day logging on to KB.”…..
        
        Not to mention the goatshit on the carpet, the empty boxes of tissues & a laptop screen that looks like a plasterer’s radio! 🙂
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:26pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        NATIONAL … LYING IN GOVERNMENT … CRYING IN OPPOITION … HOW PATHETIC ! …
        
        I do not expect to be forgiven for accurately predicting The Lying Knights demise mid 2016 … he mutinied 5 December … with poor Bill getting the hospital pass ! …
        
        Housing campaigner predicts spiralling house prices will be Key’s ‘Waterloo’ | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/83627043/Housing-campaigner-predicts-spiralling-house-prices-will-be-Keys-Waterloo
        
        Gone Gone Going Section … Performance Urban Planning
        
        http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/National%20News.html
        
        Sadly … Bill proved to be out of his depth too … as we learned back in 2016 …
        
        Labour, National both tell council Auckland city growth limits should be abolished | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/80113578/labour-auckland-city-growth-limits-should-be-abolished?rm=m
        
        We just had to put a stop to the years of lying by this phony (from 2007) …
        
        John Key on Housing Reform 2007 – YouTube
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPgoAI1cLE
        
        We spent quite a bit of time subsequently here on Kiwiblog singing the new National Party anthem ‘Waterloo’ … remember ? …
        
        WATERLOO ~ Stonewall Jackson (1959)
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-QQI6lb_Hg
        
        Talk about pathetic !
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Yep, talking about pathetic
        Poor ole Hugh gets a dig and like Pavlovs Dog puts up a Post and a link to his lonely blog
        Sooo funny.
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:29pm
      - Swifty
        
        Hugh Pavletich is a wanker.
        .
        …..see hyperlink below…
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/search?rlz=1C1GCEU_enNZ820NZ820&ei=1XnnW975G9vt9QOVpKH4Ag&q=kiwiblog.co.nz+hugh++wanker&oq=kiwiblog.co.nz+hugh++wanker&gs_l=psy-ab.3…32073.32073.0.32908.1.1.0.0.0.0.197.197.0j1.1.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0….0.YhyN1RUsN3U
        .
        .
        Also, repost from 7 November, Swifty comments:
        .
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/11/general_debate_7_november_2018.html#comment-2353585
        .
        And still one reads his blog – irrespective of his linkwhoring.
        .
        Loser.
        .
        ENDS
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:32pm
      - stephieboy
        
        Thus saith our self-styled Professor of Urban planning and everything else!
        
        BTW , the POTUS afraid his orange wig would be ruined by the rain at the 100th Armistice?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:48pm
      - Nostradamus
        
        Stephieboy:
        
        The St Albans roster indicates that you were on reading duty today. But what does “Different?” mean? Did you read out some of your Kiwiblog comments – you know, the ones about “honeypots” and pre-teen girls with “small but ample breasts” – so the congregation know what a pervert you are?
        
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        November 11, 2018 7:53pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @stephieboy:
      share with us what’s it like to have only one Mysomy X chromosome?
      
      What is a Mysomy?
      
      My Genetics lecturers seem to have omitted this aspect of Chromosomal inheritance.
      
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      November 11, 2018 7:48pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, correction! That should be Monosomy X. Is it missing in you also?
        
        https://www.healthline.com/health/turner-syndrome
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:00pm
      - Swifty
        
        Another malfunction for all the world to see…..
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:04pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @stephieboy
        
        If you want to pretend you know something about a topic you clearly know nothing about, you should, at least, get your spelling correct.
        
        If you knew anything about Turner’s syndrome, you would realise that it is most unlikely that I have this condition for I have given birth to healthy children.
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:11pm
      - stephieboy
        
        MW, light a candle.
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:13pm
      - Swifty
        
        He hasn’t got a clue.
        
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        November 11, 2018 8:13pm
      - fernglas
        
        !”
        
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        November 12, 2018 12:19am
RF

RWC.

Shit… you caught me out. Then again I have a small thumb.
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November 11, 2018 5:45pm
GoVege

Thanks to our wonderful Kelvin, we now have hundreds fewer prisoners costing us $110,000 a year each.
Apparently the only thing holding them up was their illiteracy that prevented them filling out bail forms correctly.
But what the hell is wrong with this country that produces hundreds maybe thousands of illiterate people in the 21st century?
If their parents are so useless they can’t ensure their kids are educated, they should NOT be paid to breed.
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November 11, 2018 10:05pm
geoff3012

Commie Dann interviewing Muslim Santa clause….wtf is she doing there talking about 11/11/18?
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November 11, 2018 10:24pm
Jack5

How China’s People’s Liberation Army is infiltrating Australia with “university” students is featured in an article in the Sydney Morning Herald.

In New Zealand, surely National’s China ties are going to embarrass the party.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/from-student-to-drone-swarms-how-the-chinese-communist-party-trains-its-cadres-in-australia-20181108-p50evg.html
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November 11, 2018 11:44pm
Lee C

Yes Jack5

The soft-peddled ‘Chinese infiltration’ meme. Like the way it it is wheeled out when the CoL are on the ropes. Certainly helped stoke xenophobia in the property market followed by a pointless, ineffective law.

I can only assume there is a big one coming which will majorly undermine Jacinda’s credibility, if the minions are at it this early.

Xenophobia – surely an election-winner for an otherwise incompetent and discredited administration, I mean it’s worked for Winston for ages.

Don’t fret, it will all be in ‘journaliist’ Hicky Hagar’s book due to be out about one month before the election.
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