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krazykiwi

My take on how the drug dealer Sroubek fiasco will play out. It is my belief that he has a client list which includes senior NZLP members and/or their partners, and possibly senior figures in the New Zealand public service.

The offer of residency was negotiated to buy his silence, to keep that client list away from prying eyes. I suggest the public backlash against the indefensible offer of residency will see this denied, and instead he will be secretly offered cash ‘compensation’ for the harm caused by the residency flip-flop.

In other words, the payout currency for his silence will simply move from residency which is publicly visible, to cash which is invisible.

Of course the vexing question for the Labour government would be how to keep any kind of cash payout off-books, and undiscoverable. That should be rather difficult for “the most open, most transparent Government that New Zealand has ever had”.

National must prevent this subversion, and do so by starting to close each and every exit for Ardern at al. The rumoured relationship between Sroubrek and Clarke Gayford needs to be challenged and either categorically denied, or confirmed along with the nature of that relationship.

Some QT suggestions:

1. Can the Prime minister confirm if at any time in the last 5 years, Sroubek/Antolik or anyone representing Sroubek/Antolik had contact with any NZLP MP or with a member of their now immediate family, and if so whom, and for what singular purpose, or for what multiple purposes?

2. Will the prime minister assure the house that any compensation or payment, or any promise of future compensation or payment, to be made either directly to, or indirectly for the benefit of Sroubek/Antolik, will be disclosed to this House?

.. or..

3. Will the prime minister categorically rule out any form of compensation, be it monetary or otherwise, for Sroubek/Antolik?
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December 3, 2018 8:19am
- Jules99
  
  To be honest, it could be cross party. If National don’t touch it, that would explain why. I agree on keeping a look out for cash payments though – they would expect the taxpayer to fund it somehow.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:22am
  - Komata
    
    Jules
    
    I suggested this a couple of days ago and was seriously downticked as a result, yet the Nats are curiously silent in this; a sutuation which, for the traditional ‘Law and order’ party is decidely strange – especially in light of Mr Bridges former occupation.
    
    Curiouser and curiouser!
    
    And the MSM still do nothing…
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:21am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      I don’t know what else you expect National to do Komata. Bridges, Michael Woodhouse and Mark Mitchell have asked multiple questions of the PM and Immigration Minister every sitting day since the story broke, the sought and were granted an urgent debate last week, and they have repeatedly called for Lees-Galloway to resign or be sacked. They certainly have been anything but “curiously silent” on the issue.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:44am
      - sooty
        
        They need to do a Trump and bypass the media!
        Go straight to the feeds, would probably miss the likes of me, I don’t do that stuff! But it would be out there, untainted!
        There are no jurnalist anymore, only opinion spewers. Their own opinion!
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:15am
      - pdm
        
        The speakers I saw were very effective in the Special Debate last week with even mrspdm who is not particlarly politically wired commenting on how good Paula Bennett was.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:34am
      - Inandout
        
        Yes KS, but they haven’t used the ultimate weapon in Parliament:
        
        ‘There can be no legal liability for words spoken or actions taken as part of the proceedings of the House, except insofar as this protection may have been statutorily abrogated.[8] The legal basis of this exemption from liability is article 9 of the Bill of Rights 1688, although the privilege of freedom of speech in debate predates that enactment. The Bill of Rights is but a part of the wider compact between the legislative and judicial branches of government that secures mutual respect of their respective spheres of action. Article 9 of the Bill of Rights 1688 is part of the laws of New Zealand, and its effect is reaffirmed and aspects of its operation are clarified in the Parliamentary Privilege Act 2014.
        
        The protection article 9 offers extends beyond exempting legal liability for things said or done in debates or committees of the House. It entails also exemption from having to account “in any court or place out of Parliament”[12] for one’s parliamentary words or actions, even where no personal liability is in question. This latter aspect of the privilege was established by the Bill of Rights 1688 and the political settlement out of which that legislation arose. The prohibition is against impeaching or questioning proceedings in Parliament (questioning arguably has a broader scope than impeaching), although this injunction has not always been respected’.
        
        I think I know why.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:58am
      - Surely Knott
        
        The accusations put forward re Sroubek and his client list were described as part of Operation Ark. Paula Bennett speech in the house re Sroubek’s history – she said, “Arrested soon after as part of Operation Ark, a covert operation into drugs……..I reckon there’s a bit more to come on that so we’ll keep digging around on that one and keep watching that one…. yeah, that’s a watching brief.” https://www.facebook.com/paulabennettUH/videos/281210015840062/?t=197
        
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        December 3, 2018 12:34pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    Could be a bit like the meth contaminated state houses, perhaps he would be eligible for a payout based on that, just a rather large one.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:59pm
- wreck1080
  
  I don’t think labour are specially corrupt, just incompetent (all governments are somewhat corrupt by design).
  
  I read something recently about doing business with americans….
  
  Don’t confuse confidence with competence.
  
  Labour are confident, but don’t have the competence to back it up!
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:29am
  - Colville
    
    confusing ambition with ability!
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:44am
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Been said before, worth stating again – someone in the media needs to start digging around wedding lists. Apparently 🙂
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:34am
  - pdm
    
    Lawnmower sales too?
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:35am
- Chris R
  
  KK: Why should there be anything more to the Sroubek matter than the obvious conclusion that Lees-Galloway is a lazy idiot?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:41am
  - septic skeptic
    
    Because a lazy idiot would have just taken the “no brainer” option to deport a convicted drug dealer who arrived on a false passport, etc.
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:45am
    - Chris R
      
      SS:…assuming he’d not been too lazy to have first bothered to read the file!
      
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      December 3, 2018 8:50am
  - sooty
    
    We all know he’s lazy and was told what to do to protect someone in the Labour party
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:46am
  - KevOB
    
    The conduct is now sufficiently farcical by the PM, Deputy Sot and the Minister to infer a level of serious disbelief.
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:52am
  - krazykiwi
    
    I don’t care how low you opinion of ILG is, but no one is stupid enough to grant residency to a passport fraud, convicted dealer with gang affiliations.
    
    No one.
    
    There is a rational explanation for his actions, only the facts which support this rationality are not in the public domain.
    
    It is the oppositions job to get those facts into the public domain, and to ensure the police are supporting rather than obstructing that process.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:30am
- fernglas
  
  Rubbish. The man’s a mid-level drug importer and dealer, and as such would sell to at least two steps up from the street. This comment is the stuff of fantasy.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:47am
- Huevon
  
  This is just ridiculous. The most plausible explanation is that the Minister is an idiot, in a team lead by the grade-A idiot herself. I don’t buy the conspiracy theory, when the performance of this government speaks for itself.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:03am
  - Philview
    
    It seems that a mate of the Prime Minister’s partner was putting in a good word. This could be typical socialist cronyism. Not what you know but who you know. “Karel’s a good guy, a victim of capitalist oppression who has fought the bourgeois with his fists and his feet, he is a brother.” What ever happened the most far fetched scenario is that ILG makes the odd serious error of judgement and we forgive him for that.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:30am
  - septic skeptic
    
    I don’t buy it. The default, obvious, easy, lazy, no brainer decision was to deport. To instead choose the let him stay and give him permanent residency option was a pro-active decision that took some sort of special consideration.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:39am
  - Longknives
    
    Mate it’s not a Conspiracy Theory.
    There are plenty of people who know about Sroubek’s ‘connections’..
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:23am
    - fernglas
      
      Who are they? And what are the “connections”?
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:15am
    - sooty
      
      CORRUPTION! Sorry to yell, but it’s the only answer.
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:18am
    - KevOB
      
      Let them speak.
      Do I need to set up an anonymous depository?
      
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      December 3, 2018 4:58pm
- tknorriss
  
  I have seen a lot of speculation and inuendo advanced here about this conspiracy theory. However, I haven’t seen any actual evidence yet.
  
  While I would love this to be true, and would certainly hope that any such plot was uncovered, I have yet to see anything that convinces me of its truth.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:42am
  - fernglas
    
    It has no hope of being proven.
    First, Sroubek was an importer at a fairly high level, above any street level dealing which would involve him selling to individuals. If any member of any party was dealing with him, it would have been for wholesale purchases of class B drugs for supply, which no political party would countenance.
    Second, no drug dealer in his right mind keeps “client lists” which help identify clients.
    Don’t expect the Police to issue any denials on this theory; it is just too implausible.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:23am
    - tknorriss
      
      I agree. Ockham’s Razor. Why postulate a conspiracy theory when gross incompetence is a simple and complete explanation.
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:28am
      - septic skeptic
        
        I’m a great believer in Occams razor. But when gross incompetence DOESN’T explain Galloway’s decision?
        
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        December 3, 2018 12:59pm
      - tknorriss
        
        The theory advanced above doesn’t follow logic.
        
        Firstly, if Labour granted residency to Sroubek to cover up criminal activity, then the simplest course of action would be to confrim Sroubek’s residency and tough it out.
        
        Secondly, if they were to offer him a bribe to stay quiet, then why would he? Any such contract would be unenforceable due to the criminal nature of it, and therefore, Sroubek would still have Labour by the short and curlies, and would be nothing to stop him spilling the beans.
        
        Perhaps the only effective option would be for Labour to engage a hit-man to take Sroubek out…. total nonsense of course, but no more nonsensical than the other theories advanced.
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:02pm
    - KevOB
      
      Terry Clark was a high level importer too. A network leaks. Also the cost of bribery for security carries risk too.
      Sroubek’s money is speaking.
      
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      December 3, 2018 5:01pm
  - Chris R
    
    I agree. There is plenty of scuttlebutt yet the person who apparently influenced Lees-Galloway is yet to be claimed. I simply just don’t buy into this one! Lees-Galloway is a lazy idiot end of story. I believe that conspiracy theories are all better reserved for the Left! (PS Sincerely, I’d like it to be true.)
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:47pm
flipper

It was interesting to watch the denigration of National (S Bridges) n on TV One last night, and again this morning on their breakfast programme mess. The puppet woman Holt was just silly, and so is their preferred PM poll.

S Bridges was right to note that voters do NOT vote for a Prime Minister and that they vote for a Party. It is the Party that elects the Prime Minister.

Last night DPF drew attention to pre-Christmas 2017 polling for Labour and now. I waited in vain for coverage of the 5% crash by Labour, and their sudden desire to lower MMP voter levels to shore up a Government that, with Peters et al gone, has no Parliamentary majority.
I suspect that when Ardern (and her male concubine) are given the arse in 2020 (or earlier) it will be said to be a case of the Democrats Florida and Georgia vote rigging diseases.
As for media commentators. When a major (by our piss-ant standards) newspaper chain says it has decided that the climate fraud is no fraud…. and it will not tolerate nor publish any contrary views ….. well, we have established a new nadir.
But isn’t it Stuff that gave us Small, and still gives us all the Watkins (their other overtly pro-Labour neutral observer) bullshit?
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December 3, 2018 8:19am
- redeye
  
  Barry Soper I’m afraid the tiny amount of credibility you had left just disappeared up your arse.
  
  “Given the lashing the party had taken since they last saw a poll it should have come as no surprise it wasn’t going to be a good one. But it was worse than they thought. National had dropped in just about every polling group, except for women whose support was up slightly. Men bombed, with the over 60s, where the party usually fares well, crashing. Most age groups were heading towards the bloody carpet.”
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12170060&ref=rss
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:40am
  - hullkiwi
    
    If what Barely Sober wrote is remotely true, National has still got a feral mole in the Caucus. Surely, there isn’t someone still in the caucus thing that feeding the likes of Soper is helping the party or themselves?
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:58am
    - MrsAnnie
      
      He still believes Slater and his team. Bridges just needs to keep doing as he is doing. I heard that polls instantly jumped for the Nats when the made their tax pledge. He needs to ignore the media just as Trump does and speak to the voters- not the journalists.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:04am
      - Dave Mann
        
        But how would he speak directly to the voters if not through the media?
        
        Trump has a personality and he knows how to play the social media. Because of this the MSM report what he says and does. Bridges unfortunately has none of these things. How do you think people like Adern are do successful despite their obvious stupidity? They know how to work the media.
        
        Somebody needs to tell the National party to pull its bloody socks up or we’ll all be fucked.
        
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        December 3, 2018 10:44am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Of course JLR is back in the House this month and making a speech, only positive about that is Christmas will come and go and the House is not sitting. However of course the MSM and tawdry rags of newspapers will fill up their pages with what he says for Christmas reading, I hesitate to say their Christmas magazines with front page pictures.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:10pm
  - Ross12
    
    So overall National has gone up but every polling group except woman has dropped.
    Does not make sense but assuming Soper is correct that is wonderful news for National. It means women, who everyone assumed were in love with the PM, are now deserting her in droves apparently.
    There is no other way to explain a drop in all other groups but overall National improves.
    
    No I do not believe what I have concluded but Soper must have drunk or high as a kite when he wrote the rubbish in his article.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:08am
    - Crisplion
      
      I’m really struggling to understand what Soper is on about. He seems to have read a completely different poll.
      
      To be sure, it’s not all good news for National: despite an ongoing litany of cock-ups and embarrassments, the worst government in living memory remains above 40% in the popularity stakes. Even so, the stark reality is that, on the numbers in that poll, National is a bee’s dick from being able to govern alone.
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:21am
      - Keeping Stock
        
        Soper claims to have been privvy to National’s internal polling. I would be very surprised if in fact he has.
        
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        December 3, 2018 10:47am
      - sooty
        
        Not without a national party troll leaking.
        But he would know the inner workings of the Labour party.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:21am
      - tf78
        
        I can’t understand how the poll could have Jacinda at 39% (ish), Simon 7%, Judith 6%. Winson 4% and yet National gets 48% – what was the question asked to arrive at National’s preferred PM numbers. Did people not have a preferred person for National or did they not ask National voters the leadership question. The numbers don’t really add up as National voters would never prefer Jacinda in a million years. Can anyone shed light on my ignorance please.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:39am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Sure, tf78, the question was “Who’s a cuter woman, Taxinda or Simon?”
        
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        December 3, 2018 1:03pm
    - KevOB
      
      Women decide govts.
      Taxcinda is a gonner.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:18am
      - sooty
        
        Stick a fork in her!
        She’s done!
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:22am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Women rely very much on sensible, stable investments like property. They are also pretty likely to start a little business from home. CGT is a huge threat to both ways of saving for retirement. Keep pointing those facts out at every opportunity.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:01pm
  - LTA1955
    
    Soper the rat nasty hit job as usual, struts around thinks he is the 4th estate emperor……no clothes Bazza.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:21am
- peterwn
  
  I would have no problem with Judith Collins being leader, but I have suspicions and fears that she would get up the noses of her Caucus and the wider electorate.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:41am
  - RiP NZ
    
    She’s not a leader. She a good deputy at best. Watch her performances on the A.M show and in the house, no authority, no presence, no power.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:56am
  - MrsAnnie
    
    Spot on. Everyone ignores that Judith has already run twice for leader and never had any visible support. She doesn’t have the 1 thing you need to win in caucus, a team. Judith pretends but isn’t really a team player- its all about her.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:13am
- Harkman
  
  National at 46%, Cindy under 40% and falling. The interesting thing is if the Maori party picked up a seat and the Greens lose just a bit more hehehe. Labour will so try to lower the threshold to 4%, crooks.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:45am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Yep
    I know there are many on here who don’t like the Maori seats but the MP winning one back is the only way to ensure the Nats get back in
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:05am
- Paulus
  
  Looks as though Stuff will not be around by the next election unless some idiots can buy them.
  That is after having sold the only profit centre Trade Me shortly.
  Fairfax will say thank you NZ for the money – now get stuffed.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:46am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Unfortunately I think in the case of labour they did vote for a person given how labour’s vote went up when Cindy became leader. I think it is a combined vote ultimately, and Mr Bridges would be wise to think on that. It is who the ultimate leader of the country will be and the politics of the party involved that is of concern to the public.
  labour got lucky with Cindy, she was a “breath of fresh air” bought in at the right time, not too soon that she would show how incompetent she was. we are stuck with her. Mr Bridges should think seriously as to whether he is the right person to lead the next election campaign. he might be and then again he might not be. However if they bring Judith Collins in and she proves not to be the right person national would have a huge problem. while the vote for National remains high under National maybe they should keep Simon, but the numbers are not large enough. could another leader bring in a larger percentage to get them over the line. I don’t know about that. What National should be doing is assisting another party to gain enough votes to be their support partner given how MMP works. It is the only way for National to regain the treasury benches.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:06pm
Biscuit

1. A beaut fine day ahead…
2. Liverpool winning (ain’t 97th minute goals wunnerfil?)…
3. My TAB account balance looking decidedly healthy. See Point 2 above!
4. The CoL dropping like stones in the latest poll…
5. Jassy on the News last night smiling bravely whilst wondering ‘Shit, and I’ve already played the ‘I’VE HAD A BAYBEE’ card’…
6. Me with this here $100 book voucher to spend. (I wonder if that new ‘WHAT MY CoL HAS DONE FOR ME’ tome – 500 blank pages, yep – is in the stores yet?)…
7. Christmas tree – and lights – up…
8. No Notsofast ‘It Weren’t Lundy, I Tells Thee!’ post on Kiwiblog (yet)…
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December 3, 2018 8:20am
- skyblue
  
  Looks like Loserpool are having doses of Fergie Time.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:22am
  - Biscuit
    
    Never in doubt, skyblue, though I must confess that our cat ‘chose’ to leave the room when the guy who eventually scored Pool’s winner missed a far easier chance moments before!
    
    YNWA etc etc!
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:24am
- Keeping Stock
  
  And the mighty Arsenal put four past their North London rivals Spurs last night; great stuff 😀
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:48am
  - Scott
    
    What is it with Tottenham? They have a good manager, they play their home games at Wembley with big crowds, 50,000 to 85,000. They have a new stadium they are about to move into.
    
    But how is it that they cannot win anything? How is that when push comes to shove and in the big games and when it really matters, they just fold like a house of cards?
    
    I like Tottenham, I like their style of football, they have some excellent players. But there is something that they are missing???
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:42am
Thought Criminal

Is it just me of is Labour shooting themselves in the face less frequently in the last month or so?
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December 3, 2018 8:20am
- hullkiwi
  
  Labour or the CoL?
  
  I could do a pretty good list for the last month & you have to remember they had a 2 week Parliamentary recess.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:27am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Just you.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:30am
- softail 1450
  
  T C,its ok ,they have two feet that they can shoot at if they can keep them out of their mouths for long enough to take aim.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:51am
- LTA1955
  
  They have a face? With their shit for brains there is no place for a face to fit
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:24am
tedbear

The latest science scam – the warming of New Zealand’s surrounding seas, could be contributing to the recent spate of whale strandings.
Could be?
Science is all about coulds and mights and maybes then.

Could be hotter temperatures are increasing the cost of living?

ps, can someone please advise what I need to add to Google Chrome so I can make parts of text show up bold.
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December 3, 2018 8:22am
- hullkiwi
  
  Please that one is as bad as NZ was surrounded by submarines spying on NZ (a speculative possible cause a decade ago). Do any of the world’s lazy journalists not note that whale strandings happen throughout the world?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:31am
  - flipper
    
    Not exactly…
    But Soviet and US (along once in a while with the UK) submarines did play merry games of chase in the Kermadec Trench, the Bay of Plenty north of Mayor Island where we had hydrophones installed, and more particularly in Cook Strait.
    The US subs in particular, reamed the Soviets who never knew the US was there. What is set out in “The hunt for Red October” was to some extent replicated down here. 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:06am
- G152
  
  Whales have been stranding since they went to sea.
  Its a whale thing
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:32am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Toothed whales have been stranding since time immemorial all over the world.
  
  Aristotle wrote of their stranding behaviour in the 4th C, BC:
  ]t is not known why they sometimes run aground on the seashore; for it is asserted
  that this happens rather frequently when the fancy takes them and without any
  apparent reason.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:35am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    ” for it is asserted that ”
    
    LOL, 2300 years later our scientists still just ‘assert that’.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:10pm
- RW Capitalist
  
  I have a simple remedy to whale stranding.
  More seismic exploration for oil.
  Didn’t Greenpeace tell us that the seismic emissions, interferes with whale migration?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:41am
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Thought that you were going to say harvest the stranded whales. Glad that you didn’t.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:18am
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Maori will be kept busy with that. IF they get off the couch that is. Shane will need to write them a memo.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:15pm
- krazykiwi
  
  ps, can someone please advise what I need to add to Google Chrome so I can make parts of text show up bold
  
  tedbear, WordPress allows a few HTML tags that provide for bolding, quotes etc. There’s a good description here. Good luck 🙂
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:42am
  - Dave Mann
    
    Thanks krazykiwi. I already knew about bold and italics but I was wondering how to do some other stuff, so cheers for that!
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:39pm
- Lance
  
  I worked with an academic specializing in whale song. He found it openly laughable that some professor fuckwit pontificated that loud undersea sounds (hundreds/ thousands of kms away) where upsetting the whales and making them strand. Considering whales can echolocate at 180dB.. yes 180 dB !!!!, he found this explanation idiotic.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:08am
skyblue

Who is Karol Sroubek supplying drugs to under the Labour umbrella?
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December 3, 2018 8:22am
- RW Capitalist
  
  I wonder what a newspaper cartoonist would make of that?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:42am
- Komata
  
  SB
  
  ‘Friends’ and ‘Friends of friends’ in very high places it would seem; the sorts of people who need their lawns mown more than once a week…
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:29am
cmm

Why PriNZess can’t sack ILG

There are numerous calls for ILG to be sacked, but can PriNZess actually do it? What exactly would she sack him for?

Poor decision making? Naah.

Right in the beginning of the Sroubek saga, PriNZess had a look at Sroubek’s file and said she came to the same conclusion as ILG and announced she agreed with his decision 100%. From that point on she was, so to speak, balls deep in the Sroubek saga.

She can’t fire ILG for poor decision making because she made exactly the same decision. She’d also have to fire herself too!

Same with accepting his resignation. If he resigns and she does not, then that’s a pretty bad look.

Lying to her? Naah.

There is no evidence of that either. Since Sroubek blew up she was with him every step of the way agreeing with his decisions, consulting with him on everything. So really there’s nothing she can pin on him that doesn’t implicate her too.

The only thing ILG has done that was on his own bat was hiding from the media behind a pole. Hardly a sacking offense, especially when PriNZess calls in from home half the time.

That was a massive political stumble. Rule number one for astute PMs: if your ministers stumble, keep your distance. Always leave some room for them to fall on their sword without splattering you in gore.
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December 3, 2018 8:23am
- peterwn
  
  Since the Labour caucus elects its Ministers, although the Leader allocates portfolios, agreed that Jacinda cannot sack a Minister unless she is confident of caucus support. However she can always re-shuffle portfolios and so can remove him from the Immigration role.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:30am
  - cmm
    
    If she reshuffles she cannot do so in a way that looks like it is because he cocked up because if he cocked up then so did she.
    
    They are joined at the hip until the Sroubek mess is fully resolved.
    
    She would also not be keen on swapping ministers either since that would just make two ministers tainted by the Sroubek saga.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:27am
- G152
  
  A quick look at his current address might have been a bit of a give away as to his character
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:33am
- skyblue
  
  I wonder if the Neve’s sperm donor was asked for his opinion on whether Sroubek should stay or not?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:41am
- labrator
  
  I had wondered if her “read between the lines” comment was a little freudian when talking about party drugs… What lines, how many were there and was Rutherford guiding the way?
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:04am
- KevOB
  
  Winston said only a week a go he had read the file when he first confirmed ILG’s ruling. The PM fluffed about behind the lines. That is govt bumbling amateur style without even substance.
  Were they afraid of not meeting green Gaharman’s standards of faux justice?
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:37am
I've been to Mecca and you have not!

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Burn, Aussie, burn!

Fire is a natural part of the Order of the Australian environment (along with sharks, jellyfish and Ockers).

Amongst other eco-balancing acts, Fire helps the splitting and subsequent germination of seeds.

It also clears out housing and modern development as part of the fight-back against the encroachment of humanity who have built in Fire-zones and cut down the bush and trees replacing the landscape with non-indigenous crops and cattle, sheep, pigs, goats and even camels!

Burn, Burn, Burn!
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December 3, 2018 8:23am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  When your once forest/shrub landscape is now carrying a dense understorey of tall invasive African grasses then you are in massive trouble.
  
  gamba grass-infested landscapes carry up to eight
  times higher fuel loads than native forest and pastures
  
  https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/67466/IPA-Gamba-Grass-PP147.pdf
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:43am
  - toby1845
    
    “When your landscape is now carrying a dense understorey of tall invasive Africans then you are in massive trouble.”
    
    There you go, Maggy: fixed it for ya.
    
    You’re very welcome!
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:53am
  - Ross12
    
    I picked up this link on another blog the other day Maggy. You might be interested.
    I do not buy the climate change links but the rest is really interesting
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:47am
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      @Ross 12
      
      Yep,
      Kea mentioned this guy and his work to me a couple of years ago.
      
      It was news to me.
      
      Looks like the Queenslanders will have to bring in more of those Brahman cattle to keep their invasive grasslands in check.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:05am
- Komata
  
  IB etc.
  
  So you’re a pyromaniac who doesn’t like Australian’s then?
  
  Care to elaborate about the latter? Did they try to out your ‘fire’ out?
  
  Just asking….
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:33am
- I've been to Mecca and you have not!
  
  Stuff accepts the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity. We welcome robust debate about the appropriate response to climate change, but do not intend to provide a venue for denialism or hoax advocacy. That applies equally to the stories we will publish in Quick! Save the Planet and to our moderation standards for reader comments.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/109005454/how-should-teenagers-in-new-zealand-react-to-climate-change
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:20am
peterwn

Following complaints from Microsoft, the Delhi Police have raided and shut down a number of ‘call centres’ in the Delhi area. This means we should get some respite from the gentlemen with foreign sounding accents saying they are calling from Microsoft and that your computer has problems. This respite may only be temporary since fresh ones will no doubt pop up.
I had one the other day, and as I was not too busy, I went along with him using a computer which could be re-imaged if compromised. I was transferred to a second then third person, the latter probably having the appropriate charm and skills. He waited patiently while I turned the machine on, updates installed then finally Windows. He then did the usual fake ‘tests’ to convinve me the computer had been compromised then got me to download and install a remote desktop facility (quite legitimate software). He then gave me a code number to enter to connect to his desktop. I deliberately entered the code incorrectly three times then told him he could stick the code up his [backside]. It then became apparent that his understanding of idiomatoc English was not the best – he did not understand what I meant. To my surprise I found I was on the phone half an hour but well worth it to imagine him spewing and spitting at the end of the call.
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December 3, 2018 8:25am
- cmm
  
  When I’m in the mood I run them along for a few minutes until I tell them I run a Linux on all the computers in the house.
  
  Click.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:29am
  - peterwn
    
    I did similar to one, except I just pretended I was on a computer. It fell apart when I could not read back correctly what he told me to type in.
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:35am
  - G152
    
    One asked me to ‘open windows’
    This led to a long long gap while I had a cup of tea. and on returning I said I’d opened windows but the second storey window was jammed and I had to leave it shut if that was alright…
    For some reason he didn’t stick around
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:39am
  - SGA
    
    On one occasion I “misunderstood”, and that I was the one with a virus not the computer. He gave up after 5-10 minutes of hearing about my various symptoms and my happy amazement that I’d get relief over the internet.
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:44am
    - Chris R
      
      When I visit Australia and receive one of these irritating calls I pretend they’ve called me in NZ and I do the same here in reverse. They argue to the contrary but my insistence generally wins the day! It is great fun at a quiet time!
      
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      December 3, 2018 8:58am
  - KevOB
    
    Windows is now deprecated to Win7 pro running in VirtualBox under Linux MX-17 on my laptop.
    
    I have enjoyed sport with the MS callers. I have wondered if I had been blacklisted.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:50am
- softail 1450
  
  peterwn,My favourite is “i havnt got time at the moment im just watching your dad have sex with a goat” this never fails and some of them fly off the handle with rage ,LOL.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:03am
  - GazzaW
    
    Me too softail except that I refer to his mother instead of his father. The response is equally as volcanic!
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:51am
  - Lance
    
    My standard reply is to ask them if when they were young, did they think they would grow up to be a thieving piece of scum?
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:14am
- Tall Man
  
  I recognise the numbers that call occasionally and answer the phone “POLICE”…..
  
  Never hear a word, just the click.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:28am
  - peterwn
    
    Better read s48(1) of the Policing Act .
    
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    December 3, 2018 2:10pm
Gravelroad

Santa parade with no Santa in Nelson.
A bunch of “adults” as usual pushing their very important left wing agendas at the expense of the children.
Yuk. Just yuk
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December 3, 2018 8:26am
- yomcat
  
  I was quite pleased to see that the Stuff comments were calling it out for what it was (and asking for the Easter Bunny to make an appearance at Waitangi)
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:34am
  - graham
    
    And right on cue, Stuff have closed comments!
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:45am
- oldpark
  
  @Gravelroad
  Now we have seen everything., What a bloody farce and does nothing for the Maori sycophants who infest the council in Nelson. Wonder how much Koha was demanded to allow the bogus Santa Claus to dominate the Christmas Parade.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:35am
  - lilman
    
    Had to laugh, the thought of Maori Santa coming down a chimney in the middle of the night,now theres a defence foe a criminal I had never thought of.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:01am
    - KevOB
      
      Real blackface.
      Wait till we get the Christmas re-reruns of the BBC Black & White Nigger Ministrel Show.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:51am
      - sooty
        
        No, those are in the bin allready!
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:30am
    - V
      
      Yes now I understand Angy Andy, our prisons are simply overflowing with ‘Maori Santas’.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:52pm
- skyblue
  
  They had Black Pete there as Santa replacement.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:40am
  - Ed Snack
    
    Just to note that in the original “story” of Saint Nicolas (the Dutch version), “Sint Nikolaus” is black.
    
    Presumably the original person the story is based on was indeed black. The current white, pink, fat person is modern myth making.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:27am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Sounds like nobody really knows much about him but everyone created the image that suited them:
      
      “In depictions of Saint Nicholas from Bari, he is usually shown as dark-skinned, probably to emphasize his foreign origin.[113] The emphasis on his foreignness may have been intended to enhance Bari’s reputation by displaying that it had attracted the patronage of a saint from a far-off country.[113]”
      
      ‘”In 2005, mayor Süleyman Topçu had the statue replaced by a red-suited plastic Santa Claus statue, because he wanted an image more recognisable to foreign visitors. Protests from the Russian government against this were successful, and the bronze statue was returned (albeit without its original high pedestal) to a corner nearer the church.[65]”
      
      “Santa Claus evolved from Dutch traditions regarding Saint Nicholas (Sinterklaas). When the Dutch established the colony of New Amsterdam, they brought the legend and traditions of Sinterklaas with them.”
      
      And so on…
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:34pm
- skyblue
  
  Next the Milky Bar Kid will be a sooty.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:47am
  - Biscuit
    
    skyblue, the latest incarnation of the ‘Milky Bar kid’ has ‘him’ as:
    
    A tree-hugger
    Anything other than European in features
    30-years-old
    Unable to make-its-mind-up-what-gender-it-wants-to-be
    Campaigner against palm-oil-based chocolate
    Unthrilled that Milky Bar only comes in ‘white”
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:59am
    - skyblue
      
      If we didn’t come in white we should go to the doctor.
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:01am
      - Biscuit
        
        Good one, skywhite!
        
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        December 3, 2018 9:06am
- MCos
  
  The other other we were in the Manukau Mall. There’s a tradition Father Christmas there for the kids to have there photo taken with; except the kids didn’t seem much interested.
  Plenty of adults snuggling up to Santa though, including us!
  
  The malls in Bangkok go crazy at Christmas with decorations and fake snow all over the place. I’ll tell you right now their Santa Clauses are a lot prettier than the traditional old buggers we’re used to and ain’t nobody complaining!
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:02am
- Southern Raider
  
  To me it wasn’t that it was a Maori
  
  It was he wasn’t in uniform and had a bloody war stick instead of a sack of toys
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:10am
- James Stephenson
  
  I don’t really see the problem. I mean, here we are on a set of islands at the arse-end of the Pacific, celebrating a Northern Hemisphere winter holiday.
  
  Who says Santa has to look the way Coca Cola’s marketing department decided back in the day? Why can’t we change things up a bit for once? Otherwise, I may as well come round to your place and tell you off for eating Pav instead of proper Christmas pudding.
  
  Also, bonus points to Nelson for upsetting Duncan Donut.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:33am
  - septic skeptic
    
    You convinced me!
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:47am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Who is the Santa parade for?
    If it is for activist adults to use as a platform to promote societal change, then I suppose they can go for it.
    If it is for children? No.
    Maybe next year the Nelson Council could survey local children to find out who they would like in “Their” parade – a traditional Santa with all that entails?
    Or a man carrying a hooked stick?
    This is using a child focussed event to make a political statement. Shame.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:21pm
    - James Stephenson
      
      Or a man carrying a hooked stick?
      
      Hold that thought and Google “Saint Nicholas”.
      
      Would you still be upset if they’d found a white bloke with a big beard and dressed him up in that *traditional* Dutch / German style? What if they’d Kiwi-ised him with a bit of Pohutakawa, stubbies and jandals (which everyone seems more than happy to have on their Canteen Christmas cards)? Be honest, it’s the fact that it’s a Maori fella that’s the problem, isn’t it.
      
      Personally, as a proudly cynical and grumpy Yorkshireman, I think you need to unbunch your panties and recognise that as long as they get a fat jolly bloke giving out presents, kids won’t give a flying…reindeer.
      
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      December 3, 2018 12:45pm
      - Gravelroad
        
        Insulting me by judging me as a racist does not legitimise your viewpoint, James Stephenson.
        Arrogant much.
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:20pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    True enough; traditions change. Next year Auckland City Council will require Maori groups performing official opening ceremonies for the council to include at least one Morris dancer.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:27pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I certainly don’t find that a mid-winter festival that is loved and very much needed in the Northern hemisphere winter gets me very excited in NZ.
    
    But people have a great nostalgia for their childhood traditions.
    
    This can’t really be about skin colour: as I posted above, St Nikolaus has been depicted in many ways. Also, if you’re from a black family and dad slipped out and put on a Santa costume, your childhood nostalgia could be for that image.
    
    Regarding the costume: I always feel so sorry for the men in Santa costumes in parades on hot days.
    
    Nothing against a bit of evolution in that regard (more comfortable costume somehow), but why does everything have to be so *politicised* these days? A Maori warrior to virtue signal how bicultural Nelson is? Come on…
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:51pm
- dime
  
  maybe he’s good at getting into peoples houses?
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:11am
- Fletch
  
  As someone on Facebook said, you should have traditional characters look the way they are supposed to. Superman with his red and blue tights, Charlie Brown’s yellow shirt with the black zig-zag, and Kim Dotcom’s black tracksuit and scarf…. 😆
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:15am
  - Longknives
    
    Jacinda Ardern’s Mustard Trenchcoat and clunky Cankle Boots?
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:38am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Kim Dotcom’s black tracksuit and scarf…” and empty pizza box 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:16pm
GazzaW

Some expert advice please.

Given the support parties dire need to reduce the threshold to 4% can this decision be made in Parliament or does it require a binding referendum?
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December 3, 2018 8:33am
- Poppa
  
  I suspect it would require cross party support & maybe 75% majority
  
  I also think if they try & do this the voters will punish them big time
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:41am
- Nigel Kearney
  
  A majority of Parliament can do anything it pleases. That’s a core principle of our system of government. Even those ‘entrenching’ provisions such as s268 of the Electoral Act that puport to require a 75% majority to repeal, are in fact meaningless and a simple majority can remove them. Of course there may be a political price for doing that but there is no constitutional reason it cannot be done.
  
  Also, the 5% is not even one of the entrenched provisions.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:07am
  - peterwn
    
    No. The Courts can rule on this and have done so in other Commonwealth countries. If a section is entrenched by (say) 75%, then the same 75% majority is required to repeal or amend it. The Electoral Act entrenchment is valid since the entrenched sections had an unanimous vote in Parliament (it being traditional that Labour and National reach agreement on electoral matters.
    Geoffrey Palmer Would have liked to entrench his Bill of Rights Act, but there was insufficient public support for it and National did not support its passage. So entrenchment was out of the question.
    While theoretically Parliament might be able to amend or repeal an entrenched provision on a simple majority, doing so is likely to spark action in the High Court. What would happen in such a case is beyond my comprehension of constitutional law.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:20pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Lots of money for the barristers…..
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:18pm
    - Jazzby
      
      I disagree with you. As NK says, it’s axiomatic that no government can bind any future government to any particular course of action; otherwise, that future government might be unable to meet the exigencies of unforeseen circumstances. In that event, the machinery of state would prove to be impotent, thus defeating the whole point of having a democratic legislature.
      As for the possible intervention of the courts: well, one could be sure that they would, indeed, have their say (you have cited precedent), particularly as they have, of late, been more inclined to political activism. Nevertheless, the government would quite likely remind the courts, politely but firmly, who it is that ultimately holds the reins of power. Let the courts huff and puff, by all means, but the initiative lies in the Parliamentary Chamber.
      Parliamentary sovereignty, for good or for ill, is, and always must be, sacrosanct in any democracy which rests on the principle of a plebiscite; and this is because unelected judges must defer to the wishes of the nation’s elected representatives.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:43pm
GazzaW

Could a threshold reduction be put in place prior to the 2020 election?
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December 3, 2018 8:36am
- srylands
  
  Yes. Just need to amend the Electoral Act 1993.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:43am
  - GazzaW
    
    Thanks poppa and srylands. I’m sure that info clarifies what could become a major issue. Peters will push this for all he is worth if he perceives the slightest threat to his newfound position of power. James Shaw as well because rumour has it that he too is getting to enjoy the trappings of power. Monday morning at Wellington Airport is ‘parade of the tin gods’ time as the COL Ministers arrive and strut to their waiting limos.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:09am
    - Komata
      
      Gazz
      
      So Mr ‘I support the environment’ Shaw doesn’t walk in to the CBD then?
      
      If he doesn’t, a word comes to mind; it begins with the letter ‘H’
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:41am
      - sooty
        
        Not even a bike?
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:34am
  - KevOB
    
    Not smart if they don’t want insurrection in the streets.
    MMP requires members capable of actual executive government. That excludes most of the present COLL.
    Representation is of regions not just all the peculiarities of the human condition.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:04am
secondcumming

So, *NZ Waste Management*, now owned by the Communist Chinese conglomerate Beijing Capital, want to establish a major new dump site in the *Dome Valley, just north of Auckland, on SH1.

They’re expecting something like 500 trucks could be making the return trip there every day, with the number expected to rise in the future. The tip site will be open 24/7, with dumping taking place between the hours of 5am and 10pm daily.

No wonder the locals are up in arms! I’ve been going duck shooting on a mates farm there for the last 20 years, so they can fuck off as far as I’m concerned as well. Why can’t they just ship all our waste back to China for recycling like they used to? Is our rubbish not good enough for them anymore??
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December 3, 2018 8:40am
- DigNap15
  
  Why should other countries take our rubbish.
  
  As for landfills, we have plenty of valleys here in NZ that can be used.
  
  An lay off the plastic – Stuff and Herald!
  
  Most of our waste is building materials from demolitions etc.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:00am
- GazzaW
  
  500 extra trucks a day! Doesn’t sound much like a Holiday Highway to me. What do you think JAG?
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:58am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Make it even more dangerous than ever. Plus there is the Wellsford to Warkworth bus service starting in February.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:27pm
    - fluffykiwi
      
      Not if labour hadn’t canned the Wellsford bypass. The land is nearly all purchased, the consents are in place, but no Labour has stopped it. It could have started immediately the Warkworth by-pass is completed, in fact Mr Mitchell says if National get back in the highway will be back on and can virtually start immediately.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:41pm
- Tall Man
  
  Perhaps they need to recycle more 🙂
  
  As a family we actually generate less than 1 council bag a month. Generally the smell gets to us long before it is full.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:22pm
  - secondcumming
    
    We fill 2 green wheelie bins a week….anything more than that, we either take up to the council bins at the Remuera shops after dark, or drive around until we find someone with a half empty skip outside their house.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:33pm
- fluffykiwi
  
  It is Auckland’s rubbish it has to go somewhere. Nimbyism of course will play out no matter where the suggestion is. But have a look at the area they are talking about, seriously it seems workable. The problem is Labour have canned the building of the new highway which would mean traffic would have an alternative route – the Wellsford bypass which goes to the east of Wellsford and the dome. It is not prime land. I live in the district and know the area. Shouldn’t effect the duck shooting.
  Alternative is for the public not to create so much rubbish.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:24pm
  - GazzaW
    
    The seagull shooting will improve thats for sure.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:13pm
- V
  
  The dumpsite has nothing to do with who owns Waste Management, this was a ridiculous angle for the reporting to take.
  It has more to do with typical piss poor Auckland planning. i.e. the existing dump is nearing capacity, and the waste has to go somewhere.
  
  Now of course nobody wants it in their backyard but it has to go somewhere.
  Maybe it can be left to pile up in the streets and make Auckland the true third world city it has always aspired to be.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:55pm
- V
  
  Because our ‘recyclable’ waste is contaminated with ~3% other materials. The level of contamination must be below 0.5% for China to accept it. As far as I know South Australia is the only region in our vicinity that is still meeting the standard.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:59pm
srylands

Just listening to the story on RNZ on compensation for people who had to leave their state houses due to trace levels of methamphetamine contamination. If non drug users were thrown out needlessly I don’t have any issue with them being compensated. I do have an issue with meth users being compensated. It is an evil drug. They should have been thrown out.

How is HNZ going to tell the difference? Or is it just compensation for everyone, even if you caused the contamination?
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December 3, 2018 8:41am
- Rich Prick
  
  At $1,000 a gram (so I’m told) those feckless sponges are going to need all the koha they can get their hands on. Just remember that as you spend today at work so you get to share the joy of finding it all.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:58am
  - MCos
    
    Just remember if you’re at work you shouldn’t be wasting your time on social media.
    That gradually became a curse among the people in the offices where I worked when smartphones took over some peoples’ lives.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:11am
    - Rich Prick
      
      I’m the boss and I can do whatever the fuck I like, thank you very much. 🙂
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:13am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Unless your wife finds out…
        
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        December 3, 2018 9:49am
- Paulus
  
  What happened at the time was in accordance with the legislation at the time.
  Another Labour photo scam I expect.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:56am
- Surely Knott
  
  Green leftists are claiming the National Govt was negligent because it tried to have a zero tolerance to meth in state houses. Now they say a bit of meth never hurt anyone science says so, and we must compensate. Yet a lot of the same people complaining are the ones that buy organic fruit and veg , advocate for flouride free water etc, and don’t vaccinate, despite the spray on normal vegetables being within the legally acceptable limits. If the Nats had left meth in the houses and said it’s close enough they would have been screaming that we don’t care.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:39am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Make trouble…not sense.”
    
    coalition mantra
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:24pm
Morrissey

GROPERS
No. 56: Neil deGrasse Tyson

“Curious that a bulletproof vest does not protect the neck, head, or groin. I consider these body parts important.”—Neil deGrasse Tyson

…In the report, Bucknell University astronomer Katelyn Allers said that Tyson grabbed her arm and reached into her dress while looking at a tattoo. Ashley Watson, a former assistant to Tyson who worked on his latest “Cosmos” series, said she quit her job after Tyson made repeated inappropriate sexual advances.

Patheos has previously reported allegations by musician Tchiya Amet, who said Tyson raped her when they were graduate students at the University of Texas at Austin.

In a statement, “Cosmos” producers told The Post that they are “committed to a thorough investigation of this matter and to act accordingly as soon as it is concluded. … The credo at the heart of COSMOS is to follow the evidence wherever it leads.”

Fox Entertainment and National Geographic, which air the show, said they had just become aware of the allegations and are reviewing the reports. 21st Century Fox jointly owns the National Geographic channel with the National Geographic Society.

Tyson has not commented publicly, and requests for comment emailed to him and his representatives were not immediately returned.
In an email to The Post, Allers confirmed the details of her experience as reported by Patheos but declined to comment further. She told Patheos that she did not report the incident, which she says occurred at a social event after a 2009 meeting of the American Astronomical Society (AAS), because she didn’t think the society had a mechanism for reporting sexual harassment.

Kevin Marvel, executive officer of the AAS, said the society has not received any complaints involving Tyson since its code of conduct was implemented in 2008. He added that the society does not conduct investigations unless it has received a complaint. Tyson is an elected member of AAS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2018/12/01/neil-degrasse-tyson-under-investigation-after-accusations-sexual-misconduct/?utm_term=.d916b7b00987

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/11/exclusive-neil-degrasse-tysons-rape-accuser-gives-first-public-interview/

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.
1 George Herbert Walker Bush; 2 Bill O’Reilly; 3 Al Franken; 4 Robin Brooke; 5 Lester Beck; No. 6 Arnold Schwarzenegger; 7 Joe Biden; 8 Rolf Harris; 9 Harold Bloom; 10 Sir Jimmy Savile; 11 Dr Morgan Fahey; 12 Prince Harry; 13 Bill Clinton; 14 Judge Roy Moore; 15 Matt Lauer; 16 Richard Branson; 17 Warren Moon; 18 Donald John Trump; 19 Damian Green; 20 Gene Simmons; 21 Sylvester Stallone; 22 Louise’s husband Charlie; 23 Father O’Hagan (AKA “Father Gropius”); 24 David Lloyd George; 25 James Franco; 26 Joel Kramer; 27 Rene Naufahu; 28 Steve Wynn; 29 Vince McMahon; 30 Rob Porter; 31 The old buffers at Russell McVeagh; 32 Otago law students; 33 Tom Brokaw; 34 David Scott; 35 Justin Trudeau; 36 Morgan Freeman; 37 Hugh Hefner’s guests; 38 Brock Turner; 39 Les Moonves; 40 Asia Argento; 41 [name withheld]; 42 NY subway groper; 43 His Dishonor Brett Kavanaugh; 44 Corey Lewandowski; 45 Brooke Howard-Smith; 46 Dr. Filth McGraw; 47 Dominique Strauss-Kahn; 48 Roger Ailes; 49 Louis C.K.; 50 Geoffrey Rush; 51 Michael Douglas; 52 Bill Cosby; 53 Andy Rubin; 54 Marcelo Vanzuita; 55 Al Gore
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December 3, 2018 8:43am
- Harkman
  
  Morons:
  #1 Morrissey
  #2 Guy Williams
  #3 Minto
  #4 Kelvin Davis
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:47am
  - Morrissey
    
    Oh, now, THAT was funny.
    
    Ha ha ha ha ha!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTujoL2Fgf4
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:50am
- skyblue
  
  Where is Woods?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:50am
  - Morrissey
    
    The old fornicator is lining up a putt on the practice green as we speak, skybo.
    
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    December 3, 2018 8:51am
    - skyblue
      
      Wrong Woods.
      
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      December 3, 2018 8:59am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  You are out of date with your information.
  
  As I mentioned in yesterday’s KB, deGrasseTyson has released a public statement.
  
  https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/02/neil-degrasse-tyson-answers-allegations-sexual-misconduct
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:54am
- harvey wilson
  
  Morrisey you seem a bit obsessed with these creeps, why do you devote so much time to researching the disgusting behaviour of people in the public eye? Also Julian Assange is notable in his absence on your list.
  Any reason why?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:54am
  - Morrissey
    
    The charges against Assange were fantastical, entirely fabricated. They were concocted by the British and U.S. regimes. Unfortunately for them, the two women they tried to manipulate eventually refused to cooperate.
    
    The charges had zero merit and were soon withdrawn.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:16am
sooty

Labour are in real trouble, there is a article in stuffed this morning. Jethro has rising from the dead to inject life into Cindys faillings. He has been interviewed complete with baby photos with no face shots!
Comrade Cindy, he is one of the stinking albertrosses around your neck, the other is Slease Gallopaway, both connected at the hip!
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December 3, 2018 8:43am
- Morrissey
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  How did Bridges do? Is he still on —gasp!—seven per cent?
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:48am
  - DigNap15
    
    If National win the next election Simon will be the PM even if he is on 4%!
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:15am
    - lifesgood
      
      An intellectual PM frightens the hell out of the left wing….they’re not used to it, and don’t mention that phoney”intellectual” Clarke. She was simply a commie….anyone change their shower head?
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:00am
  - Nigel Kearney
    
    Only a couple of points higher than Helen Clark at a similar stage of her leadership of Labour.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:18am
  - harvey wilson
    
    Morrisey any reason you haven’t included Julian Assange in your list of creeps?
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:23am
    - Morrissey
      
      The charges against Assange were fantastical, entirely fabricated. They were concocted by the British and U.S. regimes. Unfortunately for them, the two women they tried to manipulate eventually refused to cooperate.
      
      The charges had zero merit and were soon withdrawn.
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:47am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Believe women.
        
        Except Juanita Broddrick and Assanges victims who were bullied into silence.
        
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        December 3, 2018 9:51am
      - harvey wilson
        
        In case anyone is foolish enough to believe Morrisey about Assange the charges were not soon withdrawn. They were withdrawn seven years later against the wishes of his victim.
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/julian-assange-rape-victim-elisabeth-fritz-sweden-drop-investigation-wikileaks-stockholm-british-a7744741.html%3famp
        
        When you lie like that to protect your hero Morrisey you diminish what little credibility you have here. It’s not all that surprising that in the Metoo era the left still feel the need to lie to protect this creep, they were the same about Clinton and Broddrick to their eternal shame .
        
        Morrisey I will remind you of your disgusting post from time to time when you try and claim someone is lying .
        
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        December 3, 2018 10:12am
      - Morrissey
        
        The women did not press those fantastical claims in the first place. They were concocted by the U.S. and U.K., pathetically assisted by a foolish and malleable Swedish prosecutor called Marianne Ny (rhymes with “lie”). They kept the fantasy going for seven years, true enough, but it was a state lie as blatant and discredited as the Tonkin “incident” in 1964, or Blair’s infamous “dodgy dossier”, or Colin Powell’s ridiculous speech to the U.N. in 2003.
        
        Unlike the barrage of fantasy aimed at Assange, there ARE credible claims against Bill Clinton. I have never defended him.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:41am
      - harvey wilson
        
        Evidence if your fantastical claims please Morrisey .
        
        You have no issue making claims on your blog about creeps who haven’t been convicted of anything but when it’s one of your heroes the victim is apparently a liar.
        
        Let’s start with your allegation the charges weee soon withdrawn and take it from there. Seven years is not soon.
        
        Morrisey ? Can you back up your smears?
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:58am
      - V
        
        Hang on a sec – there were never any charges.
        
        The whole thing was initally dismissed before another prosecutor (with political motivation) took up the case. He was required to be interviewed by Swedish authorities but took up asylum in the embassy.
        Even the Swedish court recognised there was no reason they couldn’t question him in the embassy.
        Hence the 7 yr standoff.
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:10pm
    - Garbageman
      
      Nice work there harvey you skewered that sewer rat without even breaking into a sweat, morons such as Moronicissey dont like facts up them do they although it was cute of you to suggest Morrissey has even a shred of credibility here
      
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      December 3, 2018 12:54pm
      - harvey wilson
        
        Cheers. He has a section on his blog devoted to “ gropers” most of whom have never seen the inside of a court to defend themselves yet has created a contorted web of lies to protect Assange who has been holed up trying to outlast the statue of limitations on his most recent rapes.
        
        Assange is a creep , his victims will never see justice and Morrisey is a hypocrite , a liar and a creep for defending him .
        
        https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.wired.com/2010/12/assange-sweden/amp
        
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        December 3, 2018 1:10pm
- MCos
  
  There’s always a certain percentage of the population who think this side or the other is permanently in real trouble.
  To prove their point they refer to them as communists or nazis or whatever’s the meanest thing they can think of; and the knockout blow is the kids whether it be Neve or Max. Don’t know Simon’s kids names.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:21am
  - Happychappy
    
    And so you shouldn’t if that’s the view he wants. The difference between him and Jacinda is one needs the attention and will stop at nothing to get it, the other just wants to do the job the best way he see’s it.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:29am
    - SGA
      
      There may be individuals who campaign to lead a political party and, they hope, a country for purely selfless reasons, but I think they are rare. The vast majority would, in my opinion, have some ego involvement. Meant as a non-partisan comment.
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:40am
      - Happychappy
        
        Fair comment SGA the point that I was making is a lot of people with very young children like Simon has do not want their children involved a such a early age.
        
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        December 3, 2018 10:18am
  - Tall Man
    
    You don’t know their names because he isn’t a media whore, ardern the liar is.
    
    Did you know Sir William English’s children’s names.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:29pm
Colinxy

Joel Maxwell admits he’s a crook:

“Maybe all the uncharged law breakers (less heinous than sexual violence) should hold up their hands and tap out from the electoral process too. After all, criminals can’t be trusted, and I’m talking here about the everyday crooks – you and me.

…

I’d wager that if all the uncharged crooks didn’t vote, then the next election would be decided by exactly three people: Dame Susan Devoy, the Briscoes Lady and Marj from Shortland Street, and I’m not even sure all three are still alive.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/108994474/voting-ban-on-prisoners-hits-disenfranchised-mori-hardest

I’ve also long since come to the conclusion that the authoritarian left do a lot of self-projection of themselves onto the general public. For example, it appears that Joel “I’m a crook” Maxwell is projecting his (uncharged) criminal activity onto the general population as admitted in this article.

(We see that many self-described male feminists go on about a ‘rape culture’ and are invariably outed as sexual predators, like Harvey Weinstein).
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December 3, 2018 8:49am
- harvey wilson
  
  Male feminists are the catholic priests of the 21st century
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:02am
  - Colinxy
    
    I found it interesting that since Maxwell is a self-admitted crook, he projects this onto the rest of the population.
    
    It’s another data point in helping to explain same of the daft feminist and other authoritarian leftist positions: where they believe they’re cultural norms are societal norms.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:30am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Pfft. Total hypocrites. I know a ‘Greenie’ who drives a guzzling car huge distances and flies overseas every year. Also considers themselves pro Labour, while not paying taxes on cash earned.
      
      But still considers themselves utterly virtuous for … I don’t know what!
      
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      December 3, 2018 2:36pm
- Longknives
  
  I see Mr Maxwell equates Diary Farming with Rape and Murder!
  What an Asshole…
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:20am
SGA

@sooty

he is one of the stinking albertrosses around your neck

Is Albert Ross a relation of Jamie Lee? 🙂 🙂 🙂
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December 3, 2018 8:50am
- Albert_Ross
  
  I am not. Neither am I a stinking Albert Ross. Also, like Lorde, I’ll never be Royal Albert Ross. However with my advancing years I’m increasingly becoming a Wandering Albert Ross. Where was I?
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:12pm
  - SGA
    
    🙂 I was laughing out loud at that. Thanks
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:41pm
oldpark

Was reading that a guy called Twyford was handing out thousands of dollars to State house tenants who had hurty feelings on being ejected out of suspected Meth infested taxpayer owned State Houses. Was all a mistake said the wanker called Twyford.So here is Eight Thousand Dollars for you’re hurty feelings.
Wonder is he the same ratbag who used to run the charity known as Oxfam. He was so used to handing out other people goods and money,he has become completely affected by doing that.
Yes seems he is the same clown who has fughed up Kiwibuild as well. Could he be now classed as a three time loser.
Interesting Lie-bour taxpayer funded blood suckers can hand out our money for so called hurty feelings for potential druggies,yet cant find any reason to pay out our long suffering Secondary and Primary School Teachers,what they are entitled to .Par for the course for a selected PM Ardern known as a small town twerp, and her amateurs completely out of their depth.
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December 3, 2018 8:53am
- KevOB
  
  What vote item is the meths compo being charged against?
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:09am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Between the lines”….
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:32pm
Happychappy

Just a thought to the Simon Bridges haters out there. Did Andrew Little have his Travel expenses continually published and criticised in his first year for Labour including his trip to the UK to converse with their Labour Leader Jeromy Corbin (not sure I have spelling right) and also the scandal over JLR with his accusations of corruption. I think the Media gave him a pretty easy ride first off even with his trout mouth politics thrown at John Key. Just for the record I was a Bill English fan and I saw what people threw at him before the Election creating animosity and doubt for National voters and will I support Simon Bridges it is not because he is a great Politician like those before him it is because National need stability and with the vote as high as it is gives us that the preferred PM figures are not as you need to know the questions being asked before you make that judgement.
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December 3, 2018 8:58am
- MCos
  
  I think it’s ‘Corbyn’
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:23am
- brett68
  
  I don’t hate Simon Bridges, never met the man but does strike me as a nice guy.
  
  Doesn’t strike me as a great leader though, probably a good manager which is why he has caucus support.
  
  Problem is, a manager isn’t a leader they’re different roles.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:26am
  - Happychappy
    
    Look the blubber clone has arrived.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:35am
  - Colville
    
    But a “nice bloke” will get votes from middle NZ where a “hard bitch” like JC will not.
    
    The likes of you and I are going to vote for policies to the right of Attila the Hun irregardless of who is at the helm! 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:40am
    - brett68
      
      Is Labour middle NZ?
      
      They’re pretty much neck and neck with National yet are pushing a hard left agenda.
      
      Do middle NZ like hard left policies? should National just copy Labour? Labour sets the direction and National follows and entrenches it?
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:54am
    - septic skeptic
      
      Yep, you will vote for those. But you will get centre left wrapped in pretty blue paper.
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:59am
  - KevOB
    
    Where’s the Manager for the COLL?
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:10am
    - brett68
      
      They don’t have one, but they do have a Leader.
      Which is Ardern.
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:18am
      - Tall Man
        
        ardern the liar?
        
        Not much of a leader really is she?
        
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        December 3, 2018 1:35pm
      - brett68
        
        To a lot of people she is.
        Why do you think Labour support is at 43%?
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:11pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        Two different roles again. She is not much of a ‘leader’ if we mean a ‘competent person who can safely guide the country’.
        
        But if ‘leader’ means ‘recognisable figurehead people for some reason like’, yes, she’s a leader.
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:44pm
Southern Raider

Nelson what are you doing!!!
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December 3, 2018 8:59am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Driving the PC shaft hard into everything, including the Santa Parade.
  
  Note: I don’t care about skin colour and a more comfortable costume, I object to this huge politicization of every bloody thing!
  
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  December 3, 2018 2:46pm
DigNap15

As regards re-cycling its too hard.

here in Tga we have some nice new shiny blue plastic containers given out free for glass bottles only

But people put them out over full, and with plastic and cardboard in them.

Can’t they read, or are they just too lazy and feral.
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December 3, 2018 9:02am
- Happychappy
  
  Why do you pays for surely not to do everything yourself.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:20am
- MCos
  
  Not so bright in Tga, or Tauranga as those of us with School Cert would say.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:26am
secondcumming

*People that can ‘F – OFF’ this week*…..

Community Service Card holders

People who call ZB’s ‘Buy, Sell & Exchange’ ….[just put your old shit in the bin]

Transgender females trying on women’s bathing suits at Rebel Sports 🙁

Cyclists who wax

People on Mobility Scooters who come up behind you and toot….[maybe they’d rather be in a fucking wheelchair?]

Koonts that say T.G.I.F….[and have done SFA for the last 4 days]

People that keep goldfish

Life Coaches

[NB: In the spirit of Xmas & Goodwill to all cyclists, this will be the final *PTCFOTW* for 2018. I will however be keeping copious diary notes thruout the holiday period of specific events or individuals who deserve to have opprobrium heaped upon them during 2019]
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December 3, 2018 9:07am
- SGA
  
  Cyclists who wax
  
  I can’t say I’ve ever discriminated which cyclists wax, which shave, and which are au naturel. Does one pull up alongside and run a hand over their legs as one goes by? Enquiring minds want to know.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:52am
  - GazzaW
    
    They all smell the same when they arrive at your local cafe en masse on a Saturday morning reeking of BO and plonking their sweaty arses on the seating.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:17am
    - Komata
      
      Gazz
      
      We won’t even ask how you know…
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:47am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        His dog reports back?
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:49pm
- MCos
  
  I’d like to counterbalance your stream of negativity with a couple of people who I admired.
  One day my wife was in the supermarket, but when she reach the checkout she realized she’d left her atm card at home. She looked in her handbag for cash, but came up a few bucks short whereupon a Māori guy behind her offered to make up the difference.
  I was helping with a rebuild of my daughter’s house. A couple of guys turned up one day with a stack of new windows. One of the guys was a Syrian refugee. He told me that he had a successful business back home, but one day it was destroyed and he had to get out of the country. Eventually he made it here where he was starting again at the bottom. He said Syria used to be a beautiful country and he didn’t want to have to come here because it’s not his home, but he was grateful that we have given him a second chance.
  Yesterday I went to a SE Asian festival. First item was a superb rendition of our National Anthem by about twenty Malaysian singers. We also go to a lot of Thai events at the temple in Kelston. I sometimes think these immigrants are more patriotic than Kiwis born here.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:53am
  - secondcumming
    
    Sounds to me you need to get out more.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:01am
    - MCos
      
      About half an hour ago
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:08am
Woz

Classic diversion by the Labour Party and its colluders at Stuff this morning, I see. A sobering poll result = run a story featuring the First Stoner and the Baby.
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- brett68
  
  Stuff is a left wing site, it’s what you’d expect, yesterday’s poll result didn’t even get a mention.
  
  Big reason why I no longer go there for “news”.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:31am
  - DigNap15
    
    Yes, but where can we go for unbiased news in NZ?
    
    Its not like we have a Fox news to balance the left wing MSM.
    
    Their continue brain wishing does have an effect on people.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:43am
    - brett68
      
      As sad as this is, The herald is about as unbiased as it gets in NZ.
      Newsroom does some pretty good stories.
      
      Apart from that everything else is varying degrees of left.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:05am
      - Classic Liberal
        
        I go to Stuff for the comments. Generally far more centre/right than the article’s bias.
        
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        December 3, 2018 2:51pm
    - KevOB
      
      ODT seems least affected.
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:13am
      - sooty
        
        Which is strange for feral inbreed labour voters that infest that area. Maybe they go out of there way to show the oppersite opinion.
        
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        December 3, 2018 11:44am
lastmanstanding

My bet is the COL will put up and pass legislation to lower the threshold to 4% or even 3%.

They have the numbers to do it. And if they did and it resulted in them winning in 2020 whats the downside.
Their current supporters wont care in fact they would appauld such a move.
Sure they might risk a backlash but if they kept the Treasury Benches from 2020 to 2023 by that time the sheeple will have forgotten about the lowered threshold and unless the Right can get up a Party to counter Greens/NZF it wont matter to them.
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December 3, 2018 9:15am
- fluffykiwi
  
  Is this a Revolution all over again, the knitters at the guillotine will be a gathering.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:34pm
Rodney Randall

Firefighters have turned their backs. Now the police remove have their helmets to show solidarity with the French people against Macron.
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December 3, 2018 9:17am
- Philview
  
  I read over the weekend that Germany has asked Macron to give up France’s permanent seat on the UN Security Council so that the EU can have it. That will be a dilemma for Macron who has been shouting from the roof tops about wanting a full blown Federalist European Government but removing that UN seat would surely be a very unpopular move in France if he took that step.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:40am
  - Manolo
    
    Yes, the coward Frog will surrender (again).
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:08am
- DigNap15
  
  But he was such a nice young man
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:41am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    He is a sexual abuse survivor.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:06am
Than

Riots in Paris over fuel taxes. This provides a very graphic demonstration of the difficulties faced in reducing carbon emissions.

The theory of fuel taxes is that by pushing up the price of gas it encourages people to drive less. But in practice that just doesn’t happen. For better or worse our society is dependent on cars, and the alternatives like public transport or cycling are vastly inferior. People can’t just stop going to work, taking the kids to school, buying groceries etc. so there is little they can do to reduce their fuel use.

When the price of gas goes up people just pay it, and resent having less money for other things. Any fuel tax sufficient to significantly change behaviour would be utter political suicide, and is never going to happen.
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December 3, 2018 9:17am
- DigNap15
  
  But Genter says we must stop using cars and our cities will be marvelous pedestrian only areas.
  And our roads will be safer as there will be no cars on them, just buses and cyclists
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:45am
- Philview
  
  I saw on the news the other night that a massive
  shipment of black market cigarettes was discovered. Maybe we will have petrol tankers off the coast and get cheap fuel that way. Socialist Governments seem to have a knack of creating black markets.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:45am
secondcumming

I refused to believe I was gay and dyslexic….

Until I realised I was in Daniel.
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December 3, 2018 9:22am
Hugh Pavletich

… AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND: How degraded is mortgage lending ? …

Chris Joye climbs aboard the Big Australian Short – MacroBusiness Australia
… behind paywall …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/chris-joye-climbs-aboard-big-australian-short/

… extract …

… In our due diligence, we told mortgage brokers and bank managers that we required a 95% loan-to-value mortgage at 10x our gross household income to buy our dream house, and we were consistently told it was not a problem at all. All we needed were two payslips and mortgage insurance. We asked if the bank would call our employer, and both reputable and disreputable brokers said banks rarely verified payslips. Also, “most of the people checking documents are in Indian call centres.” Furthermore, we were told that as long as the payslips had the right Australian Business Number (ABN) and the business checked out, that was enough. …

… concluding …

… It should come as no surprise that lending standards have fallen as third-party origination of mortgages has risen. This was typical of standards in the US in 2005-07. Today, almost half of new housing loans are originated by third parties.

But our biggest surprise came when we visited a building society (a thrift). The bank manager told us her lending standards were conservative compared to the big banks. She would check our income more thoroughly. She then encouraged us to take a 95% loan to value ratio at 10x our gross income because, “It isn’t worth saving another 5% when house prices will rise more than 5%. By the time you save the 5%, prices will rise exponentially.” Those were her words, not ours.

Needless to say, John Hempton of Bronte Capital and your dumbfounded analyst from Variant Perception wandered around Sydney in shock and amusement after every meeting.

Melbourne will follow in due course.
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Unnatural Acts From New Zealand’s Reserve Bank … Martin North with Joe Wilkes … Digital Finance Analytics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnCARscvgE
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… Of necessity … lending must mirror the Median Multiples of specific housing markets.

Finance in all its forms (equity; bubble equity; mortgage debt) is simply the ‘fuel’. Artificial scarcity with strangled land supply and inappropriate infrastructure financing is the ‘bubble trigger’.

To degrade the finance sector, it is essential to degrade the property market first … with poor quality regulatory governance and administration…

The housing market is in the process of being degraded if house prices exceed 3.0 times gross annual household incomes (Median Multiples) …

Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: All Editions

http://www.demographia.com/db-dhi-index.htm
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December 3, 2018 9:23am
Maggy Wassilieff

Morrissey’s latest expose didn’t last long.
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December 3, 2018 9:25am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  There is a God.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:41am
- graham
  
  I missed seeing it – oh dear, how sad, never mind.
  
  Actually, help me out here folks. I’ve been trying to work out what Morrissey is all about. I can’t work out if he’s just a self-important little man, trying to feel important by denigrating everybody around him; or whether he’s just bored and trying to wind people up.
  
  What’s the consensus?
  
  And what on earth is this “Daisycutter Sports” thing all about? About all I can find out about “daisycutter” is that it’s:
  
  (a) the name of a UK self-proclaimed “fake football newspaper”
  (b) a type of bomb used in Vietnam
  (c) a fuse for an aerial bomb
  (d) a sharply struck ground ball in baseball
  
  None of which really seem to fit with the rather bitter diatribes that Morrissey posts here.
  
  Anybody know any more? These are things that keep me awake at night …
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:29am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    If I can be of some help to you graham, Morrissey Breen is an evil lefty bastard with a giant chip on both shoulders. He lives in a world of his own in which anyone even slightly to the right of him is worthy of vicious derision and ridicule.
    You can find out more about him by googling his name. He has a history.
    And Daisycutter Sports Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Breen Enterprises Ltd., purveyors of fuckwittery to the world.
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:47am
    - sooty
      
      I allways thought it was something to do with his been a deviant bastard.
      
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      December 3, 2018 11:49am
    - Morrissey
      
      He has a history.
      
      And a web log….
      
      https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/national-party-emergency-caucus-meeting.html
      
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      December 3, 2018 3:34pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Containing nasty, vindictive stuff from 13 years ago for the benefit of anyone who gives a f**k.
        
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        December 3, 2018 4:08pm
      - Morrissey
        
        …nasty, vindictive stuff from 13 years ago…
        
        You can fire those opprobrious epithets at it all you want, Cap’n—but you can’t dispute the accuracy of those Dramatis Personae descriptions. At the risk of “buttering my own trumpet”, I’d say that they’ve held up rather well…..
        
        DOCTOR DON “BRETHREN CASH” BRASH. Aging, decrepit, discredited liar who also happens to be leader of the National Party.
        
        MICHELLE BOAG. Complete bitch. Formidably well organised, well read and merciless political backroom operator. Former chairperson of the National Party, given the boot after guiding it to record defeat in 2002.
        
        MURRAY McCULLY. Fomer lover of Michelle Boag. National Party campaign
        “strategist”, therefore currently the most discredited and disrespected person in the southern hemisphere.
        
        JUDITH (“Rosa”) COLLINS. A brutal, intimidating woman with the looks and personality of the James Bond villain, Rosa Klebs. Collins has replaced the lovely K****rine R*ch as the National Party’s “social welfare” spokeswoman. To many observers, this position sits oddly against her former role as a corporate lawyer for the casino industry.
        
        K*****INE R*CH. The polar opposite to Collins. Blonde, curvy and gorgeous. Ignominiously tossed off National front bench because she was too “wet.”
        
        SIMON POWER. Former National defence spokesman. Removed from position due to gross incompetence.
        
        GEORGINA TE HEU HEU. Tall, aristocratic, a genuine example of Maori royalty. Ignominiously tossed off national front bench because she is Maori.
        
        GERRY BROWNLEE. Enormously fat former woodwork teacher who somehow has ended up as deputy leader of the National Party. A walking, talking disaster, funny for about two minutes, painful and tiresome thereafter.
        
        DOCTOR LOCKWOOD SMITH. Notorious for his oft-stated willingness to act as an unquestioning lackey of the United States government. Former host of Australian children’s TV show Here’s Humphrey. Smith played the role of Humphrey. Later went on to front children’s quiz show W-Three in NZ, where he haughtily insisted the intermediate school contestants call him “Sir”.
        
        BILL ENGLISH, Dr NICK SMITH, TONY RYALL. Sworn enemies of the current National Party leadership. A slyly subversive, potentially destabilizing trio of troublemakers.
        
        M________ BR**N. Political pollster.
        
        https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2017/12/national-party-emergency-caucus-meeting.html
        
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        December 3, 2018 5:43pm
      - realityczech
        
        Morrie, I see your attack on a religious minority. Seems you are okay with that after all, in spite of your pretending not to be just yesterday.
        
        The Bretheren can give their money to whom ever they fucking please.
        
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        December 3, 2018 5:47pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Yet another unfortunate brain explosion from Mr. czech….
        
        Morrie, I see your attack on a religious minority.
        
        ??????
        
        No you don’t.
        
        Seems you are okay with that after all, in spite of your pretending not to be just yesterday.
        
        What?
        
        The Bretheren [sic] can give their money to whom ever they fucking please.
        
        Not when it’s done secretly and illegally like they did in 2005. Read The Hollow Men by NICKY HAGER.
        
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        December 3, 2018 5:56pm
      - realityczech
        
        Morrie, overlooking your hate speech against a religious minority, the Bretheren did nothing illegal. Unlike Clark.
        
        I like the Breen Report though. Voting away your posts is not on and I find your contributions almost as funny as the hysterical comments in reply 🙂
        
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        December 3, 2018 6:05pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Cheers, Mr. czech. Love you too, man.
        
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um4fcwTmJSM
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:13am
- Keeping Stock
  
  I try to see the good in most people. But Morrissey’s republishing of his “Gropers” list on Saturday shortly after the announcement of George H W Bush’s sad passing is about as gutless as it gets.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:54am
  - Morrissey
    
    This ain’t North Korea. We’re allowed to criticize politicians.
    
    What do YOU do, sir?
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:44pm
    - Keeping Stock
      
      Not when they are so recently dead as to still be warm Morrissey. All you did was prove how low your standards are.
      
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      December 3, 2018 6:08pm
      - realityczech
        
        So how cold do they have to be before your morals return KS?
        
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        December 3, 2018 6:10pm
      - Morrissey
        
        That old mass murderer was no less repulsive straight after he croaked than he was when he was alive.
        
        What’s your statute of limitations for truth-telling? Is it compulsory bullshit and encomia from the likes of Bill Clinton for three days? Five days?
        
        Forever?
        
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        December 4, 2018 9:10am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Christ this Morris Dancer is a seriously disturbed individual is he not?
    Did his mother drop him on his head when he was a baby?
    
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    December 3, 2018 6:06pm
- Komata
  
  Maggy
  
  Was there one; I seem to have missed it…?
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep.
    
    He posted up a Groper on Neil deGrasse Tyson…
    but already it was out of date.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:50am
- Morrissey
  
  Here ya go, Maggy….
  
  http://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/12/gropers-no-56-neil-degrasse-tyson-dec-3.html
  
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  December 3, 2018 3:18pm
  - realityczech
    
    A bit redundant really. We assumed as a climate alarmist and Trump hater that he was a predatory sex pervert.
    
    All the signs were there Morrie.
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:52pm
    - Morrissey
      
      climate alarmist
      
      You mean he’s a scientist.
      
      … and Trump hater…
      
      “Hate” is a very strong word, and no doubt you have used it inappropriately here. Tyson, like every American with a detectable I.Q. and a conscience, is extremely concerned about the Trump gang’s wholesale assault on America’s institutions and indeed on democracy. That’s not
      hate, it’s simply being a concerned citizen.
      
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      December 3, 2018 6:00pm
      - realityczech
        
        Ummm what attacks on democracy?
        
        Obama bought in the most undemocratic laws in US history. Prosecuted, imprisoned and persecuted more journalists and whistle blowers than any president in the history of the USA.
        
        He was a deeply ignorant warmongering beast.
        
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        December 3, 2018 6:08pm
stephieboy

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
A remarkable and valuable resource on climate change.

( All conspiracy and quack free )

The signs of global warming are everywhere

“Climate change is not just about changing temperatures”

Dr Rob Murdoch, General Manager – Research

The latest climate change facts you need to know

A new pattern of more extreme weather events

Increase in extreme heat and precipitation

Hurricanes and other storms likely to become stronger

F;;odd and droughts become more stronger

In NZ ~ 5% increase in extreme rainfall
10% i + for increase in thunderstorms

As the planet warms sea levels rise ……etc

https://www.niwa.co.nz/climate-change
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- Captain Mainwaring
  
  “F;;odd and droughts become more stronger.”
  Yes steph, you are f***ing odd. And your idiocy is becoming more stronger.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:44am
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    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    Oh to be perfect like you! Is it God or what?
    
    LOL
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:46am
- WaveyDavey
  
  Yeah? Still don’t give a flying fuck.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:46am
  - Doctor Who
    
    You’re in the right place here.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:57am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      I’ve already pre-paid my climate-change religious penance thanks.
      
      In the 100 years that NIWA says might lead to up to a 1m rise in sea level (good hedging of bets there chaps) I won’t be responsible for 126 more humans (child-free and wealthy because of it). So, just in exhaled CO2 alone (just their breathing, nothing else) I’m already 4,000 tonnes in credit. Add in another (conservative) 96,000 tonnes for the rest of their CO2 emissions and I’m 100k up.
      
      So yeah, I’ll keep flying (business natch), driving my petrol car, eating meat & dairy, using plastic products, staying in my beach house – in fact generally having the nice, civilised & comfortable life that previous generations could only dream of.
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:07am
      - Tall Man
        
        Ain’t life good?
        
        Even ardern the liar will have little impact in the long run and will be consigned to history as the biggest twit ever selected by the oldest prick in the house.
        
        Seems a little incongruous to me, a commie lefty feminist selected by the misogynist arsehole in the house.
        
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        December 3, 2018 1:46pm
- Poppa
  
  Thank you Steph, you are such a fountain of knowledge
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:58am
- flipper
  
  C R A P.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:11am
- krazykiwi
  
  Niwa, quack free? They are hip-deep in the catastrophic anthropogenic climate change scam. For example their now routine adjustment of historical data which always accentuates climatic warming.
  
  stephie, you are uninformed on most topics, but on this one you distinguish yourself.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:57am
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    It’s also worth noting that commenter here Wayne Mapp was the Minister in charge of NIWA while NIWA had their finger on the scale. There’s a chronological summary here.
    
    The NZ Climate Science Coalition asked for a judicial review of New Zealand’s official temperature record, and put together legal claims in July 2010. NIWA’s response then in defending it’s high quality expert analysis was to take the highly unusual step of declaring that its work was not meant to be taken as being important, official, or anything more than just labnotes for the boys basically. They said: “There is no “official” or “formal New Zealand Temperature Record” and “the NZTR is not a record and is not a public record for the purposes of the PRA”.
    :::
    NIWA couldn’t justify the upward adjustments to the thermometer data, and promised to redo the lot and get their Australian counterparts to “peer review” it.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:07am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Here’s a copy of the letter from BOM to NIWA.
      It wasn’t an in depth Peer review by any means
      http://www.warwickhughes.com/agri/bom%20letter%20niwa%2014%20dec%202010.pdf
      
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      December 3, 2018 3:37pm
Jack5

The victim industry …

In the Hooerald today there is a One-Roof feature headlined when “single women and Maori were locked out of the housing market.”

It includes this:

Being Maori could also be an impediment to getting a mortgage in the days when bank managers made value judgements. Even now the more Maori you look the harder it is to get a mortgage, says University of Auckland social psychologist Carla Houkamau.

Houkamau and colleagues’ 2015 study examined differences in the rates of home ownership between Maori who looked Maori and those who didn’t. The results found that Maori who looked more Maori were stereotyped and had more difficulty accessing finance.

‘The results found”? No possibility that they might have been parallel without any cause and effect relationship.

No mention is made that one of the main reasons Maori have found it hard to get mortgages is that the mortgage system round the world relies on land for security. That is clear-title land that can be seized in the event of the borrower not meeting payments.

Much, probably most, Maori land is community owned, is inalienable (unable to be sold), and thus is useless as security for mortgages.

With all due respect, “the more Maori you look” often is an indication of whether you live in the city or in the backblocks, where there has been less infusion of white genes and thus skin colour may be darker.

And if you are from the backblocks your land assets are more likely to be tribal and communal, and useless for borrowing, compared with the assets of urban Maori.

There are heaps of whites who can’t get mortgages. Lenders are interested in being repaid, and that is largely linked to the assets they can grab if necessary. Maori tribal elite buying into leafy suburbs will have less trouble getting mortgages than poor white folk do.

Single women in the past found it harder to get mortgages because their wages and salaries then tended to be well under men’s wages and mortgages are all about the ability to repay. Women’s wages might not be equal now, but the gap is much narrrower.
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December 3, 2018 10:02am
- DigNap15
  
  The article also failed to mention that in the 60’s and 70’s banks did not offer mortgages.
  People got mortgages from Building Societies or Insurance Companies.
  
  So if you did not have any building society shares or a big insurance policy you could not get a mortgage.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:24am
  - lifesgood
    
    We got our mortgage mid 60s from a bank. Our friends all got theirs from banks in the 60s too.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:36pm
- Komata
  
  Jack5
  
  Concerng Maori and mortgages.
  
  My wife is Maori (and a landowner), and many years ago, when looking to purchase our current home we explored the whole Maori mortgage area.
  
  Money WAS available through Maori and Island Affairs (MAI), (and yes, it is that long ago), BUT the interest rate was well-above prevailing bank rates and also well above what was available through State Advances / Housing Corp.
  
  After doing the research, we got the very distinct impression that MAI were just going through the motions in respect of loans, that it was all for show, and that (metaphorically), a Limpet would be easier to remove from its rock!
  
  When the high MAI interest rate was queried the response was to the effect that it was set to cover the EXPECTED (OUR expected) loan default! Apparently such an occurance was not unknown!
  
  We went to the bank and Housing Corp (as it had by now become).
  
  Skin colour has nothing to do with it, ‘inside ‘ knowledge about Maori and money is all…
  
  The good doctor (if that is what she is) will, of course, deny such things.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:23am
- Classic Liberal
  
  I know a very dark-skinned Indian bank manager. Would most probably not consider melanin levels any issue when applying for a mortgage, but look pretty hard at likelihood of repayment.
  
  The article should add the biggest hindrance: age. Try getting a mortgage in your 50s even if you’re on a reasonable income. Just try. You basically get told ‘sorry, you’re too likely to clag before you repay us’.
  
  How discriminatory, sniffle… But banks are a business and not a charity. Most of these things that Red Radio and articles like this whine about should be sorted out by charities if people care that much, not by laws and taxes.
  
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  December 3, 2018 3:06pm
starboard

Courtesy of Hobsons Pledge.

“Enough is enough
Since the row over Don Brash being banned then un-banned from speaking at Massey University, race-based issues have appeared to have been sidelined. The issues remain, prompting Don to write in his regular column for South Auckland newspaper Elocal that “enough is enough”. Here is the article:

Maori seats entrenchment bill ‘nuts’
We now have a Bill before Parliament which would “entrench” the separate Maori electorates, meaning that, if passed, it would require a 75% majority of all Members of Parliament to scrap those electorates, almost certainly guaranteeing their continued existence for all time.

This is nuts. The Maori electorates were originally established for just five years in 1867 and gave all Maori men the vote, even if they owned no property. They should have been scrapped in 1879 when all men got the vote, or in 1893 when all adults got the vote. The Royal Commission on the Electoral System recommended in 1986 that they should be scrapped if New Zealand adopted MMP, and of course we’ve now had MMP for more than 20 years. A quarter of all Members of Parliament now have Maori ancestry, proving beyond a shadow of doubt that Maori are as capable of being elected to Parliament as anybody else. To suggest otherwise is patronising nonsense.

No Treaty basis for Ngai Tahu Representation Bill
There is another Bill in the works, sponsored by the Canterbury Regional Council, which would provide that there could be two appointed members of the Council from the local tribe, Ngai Tahu. That would mean appointed – not elected – tribal members making up some 14% of the Council, even though the 2013 census suggested that all Maori made up only 8% of Canterbury’s population, and one must assume that some of that 8% would not be Ngai Tahu. But why should there be any entitlement for tribal appointees on the Council? No other ethnic group has such an entitlement, and there is absolutely no suggestion in the Treaty that those who chance to have a Maori ancestor (always with ancestors of many other ethnicities also of course) should have an entitlement to local government representation in perpetuity.

Treatment of coastal claims unfair
There are some 600 claims by tribal groups for rights over the coastline, covering literally the entire coastline. Indeed, two of the claims are themselves for the entire coastline. The National Government assured the public, when the Marine and Coastal Area Act was passed in 2011, that it would be extremely rare for any claims to succeed because claimants would have to establish that they had had continuous and largely exclusive use of the relevant piece of coastline since 1840. And then they offered hundreds of thousands of dollars to each claimant to help them mount their claim. No financial assistance is offered to those who want to object to those claims and we have already seen instances of some very aggressive behaviour against those who “trespass” anywhere near coastal areas claimed by some Maori, even before claims have been settled.

Treaty indoctrination of imported teachers also ‘nuts’
The Government has made a big effort to recruit more teachers overseas to fill vacancies in our schools, only to have the teachers’ union argue that overseas teachers will need to undertake a year-long course in cultural competence to prepare them for teaching in New Zealand – which means, they will require indoctrination in Treaty mythology before they can be trusted in front of our children to teach maths or English or science. This again is nuts.

No partnership in Treaty
Recently, I came across a document issued by the Ministry of Justice entitled “Crown/Maori Relations: Summary of Submissions”. It summarised the reactions which Kelvin Davis, the Minister with responsibility for Crown/Maori relations, had got in touring the country to get views on how people saw the Crown/Maori relationship. But as Mr Davis made clear in the Foreword to the document he hadn’t really made any attempt at all to get the views of those without a Maori ancestor on this issue. He had, he said, had “20 hui in centres across the country and held 12 smaller focus group hui, engaging with around 1600 people kanohi ki te kanohi” (whatever that means).

He then claimed that the overwhelming feedback from “New Zealanders” was that they “do value the Crown/Maori relationship”. He expressed the hope that the relationship between Maori and the Crown could move from one focused on historical grievance to one focused on “true partnership”.

In the summary of the submissions it was noted that the “key theme of feedback was that the Crown/Maori relationship is underpinned and guided by the Treaty of Waitangi, which set up a partnership of equals”. This is, of course, unmitigated garbage, though no doubt certain Maori radicals and their Pakeha allies wish it were not.

There is absolutely nothing in the Treaty of Waitangi – in any version of it – suggesting that a relationship in the nature of a partnership of equals was envisaged by any of those who signed the document in 1840, and politicians as different as David Lange, Bill English and Winston Peters have made that point repeatedly. The idea that Queen Victoria saw herself entering into partnership with a group of mainly illiterate tribal chiefs, almost none of whom she had ever met, is quite literally absurd.

The obligatory few sentences in Maori ‘rude’
Though I hesitate to mention the Maori language again after all the trouble I got into earlier in the year when I complained about the increasing use of Maori on Radio New Zealand, I find it irksome – no, actually I find it rude – that at almost every occasion these days hosts feel obliged to invite some Maori man (always a man) to say a few sentences in Maori at the beginning of the affair, even though often there is not a single person in the audience who understands what is being said. I am trying to pluck up courage to call out: “Excuse me Mr Chairman, could we have a translation please?”
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December 3, 2018 10:11am
- Jack5
  
  Ngai Tahu make us less than half of Maori in Canterbury, adding to the unfairness of the Ngai Tahu Representation Bill.
  
  It would allow Ngai Tahu’s 4 per cent of the population a guaranteed, unvoted for, 14 per cent stake in the council.
  
  Add this to Ngai Tahu businesses’ exemption from company tax, and you get an idea of the tribe’s privileges. Another is Ngai Tahu’s role in vetting research projects at the University of Otago.
  
  Nuk Korako, National list MP and the party spokesman on Maori development, is a director of Ngai Tahu Holdings.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:53am
- KevOB
  
  Such a Maori intro may be offensive to Christians invoking Maori pantheistic spirituality.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:24am
DigNap15

Newstalk ZB in their pre-news bubble say
Soper, Williams and Smith people you trust.

Well I don’t trust Soper he is biased, its not funny.
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December 3, 2018 10:27am
Rodney Randall

Salvini’s Security and Immigration Bill has passed into law.

This Bill suspends the asylum processes for those who are “socially dangerous” or convicted of a crime.

It also removes the ‘humanitarian’ protection these animal’s lawyers hide behind so easier deportations too!

What a leader!
The chamber erupted ito applause as it was passed.

Bridges isn’t the stench of a leader’s areshole.

Still waiting for Simon to publicly and vociferously oppose the 2018 UN Migration Compact and the 2018 Refugee Compact…

Of course he will issue a one liner of FAKE consternation: “Look, to be quite frank, I do not support it.”
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December 3, 2018 10:30am
- brett68
  
  National supports it, that’s obvious.
  Haven’t heard a squeak out of anyone from National.
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:59am
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Brett: May I draw your attention to the “Submission in Relation to the Twenty Second Periodic Review of New Zealand under the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Racial Discrimination” July 2017.
    
    This ‘submission’ was conducted and approved by the National Government.
    
    In this submission, the idea of creating Disharmonious Speech laws were canvassed with respect to ‘minority’ ‘religions.’ ISLAM was specified i.e. The National Govt were seeking/exploring the possibility of expansions to Section 61. National and FIANZ and the NZ Police are actively looking to create hate speech laws protecting any criticism of Islam.
    
    The National Government in accordance with the edicts of the UN Migration Compact were doing EXACTLY as their puppet masters instructed them to do in accordance with the provisions set out in the Migration Compact.
    
    The chilling silence from the MSM is another sure sign that the UN have this country wrapped around its little finger on both sides of the house.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:27am
cmm

Big whoopie in Stuff about Clarke the stay at home parent.

Two problems:

1) If they also have a nanny while he’s off doing fishing shows then he’s hardly a stay at home parent.

2) Pulling the “doing it hard” card when they have a nanny etc is going to get very old with real parents who manage without nannies etc and this will backfire on them.
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December 3, 2018 10:31am
- Longknives
  
  He last what? A couple of months??
  With a nanny AND his Mother in Law there??
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:35am
  - Longknives
    
    Oh Dear God I just read the article.
    Gayford is claiming ‘The World was watching him’!
    
    God this guy really is a complete and utter wanker isn’t he?..
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:41am
    - Keeping Stock
      
      You may well think that Longknives, but I couldn’t possibly comment 😀
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:56am
    - Poppa
      
      I thought he had been out of the news for too long
      
      He just loves himself & his new found “fame”
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:56am
      - sooty
        
        Just when Comrade Cindy is getting flake over SLG, up pops the media whore in a touchy, feely, interview!
        
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        December 3, 2018 12:19pm
    - Woz
      
      He’s an insufferable twat.
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:51pm
  - calendar girl
    
    Longknives, with respect Mrs Ardern (Jacinda Ardern’s mother) is not Gayford’s ‘Mother in Law’; he and Jacinda Ardern are not married. (Hint: the clue is in the words ‘in Law’; i.e representing a legally-recognised marriage, which the PM and her partner don’t have.)
    
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    December 3, 2018 10:37pm
- stigie
  
  Are they using single use nappies that do more damage to the environment than the triple use supermarket plastic bags..?
  
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  December 3, 2018 10:56am
  - graham
    
    Spot on. If he was staying at home the whole time, he should have been able to use cloth nappies the majority of the time. We did (admittedly this was 20 years ago), and only used the plastic ones when we were going out somewhere.
    
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    December 3, 2018 11:34am
Manolo

Natives gone mad:
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/don-brash-not-a-fan-of-nelsons-m%C4%81ori-santa/ar-BBQnVJb

Images from the parade show a man without the customary red suit, red hat, white hair or white beard. Instead, a bare-faced Santa wore a short-sleeved shirt, a red korowai and carried a large fish-hook sceptre.
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December 3, 2018 11:02am
- Longknives
  
  That smirking dickhead with his ‘Jesus was a black man’ rant.
  What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? (It’s not quite true either)
  
  Santa Claus is for the kids! Not some staunch Activist bloke trying to make a point…
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:45am
  - fluffykiwi
    
    As long as Santa looks vaguely like Santa should i.e. beard and red suit colour or gender does not matter, it is actually whether they throw any lollies or hand them out from their sack, that is what the kids want regardless of the sugar police.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:30pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Jesus most certainly was not a black man, he was middle eastern and Jewish. He most likely had olive skin and brown eyes. The sickly blonde, blue eyed depictions of him are wrong too. You can’t change historical facts by wishing things were so.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:32pm
    - Tall Man
      
      ardern the liar can….
      
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      December 3, 2018 1:55pm
secondcumming

Turns out the Canary Islands do not have canaries.

Same for the Virgin Islands. No canaries.
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December 3, 2018 11:05am
- fernglas
  
  The Scilly Isles, on the other hand, are off with the birds.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:25am
  - DigNap15
    
    And in Hungary the people are not.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:29pm
  - cmm
    
    The Scilly Isles doesn’t live up to its name either. We’re the ones with the Scilly Little Girl.
    
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    December 3, 2018 12:38pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      And Turkey has lots of turkeys. As well as Turks.
      
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      December 3, 2018 3:36pm
Chuck Bird

This is going to cost the left whether it passes or not. I wonder if NZF will call for a binding referendum.

Doctors to fight new abortion law

The Process

1. Cabinet decides on a process – before Christmas

2. Justice Minister Andrew Little puts up legislation – early 2019

3. MPs get a conscience vote on it soon after. If it passes first reading, goes to select committee for public submissions and any changes. That will likely be a dedicated select committee.

4. If sufficient support, passes by end of 2019.
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December 3, 2018 11:14am
- MrTips
  
  This law is Socialist Cindy’s real and only goal. She’s a hard core abortion supporter and it was the first “captains call” she made to get Little to call it.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:24pm
  - fluffykiwi
    
    For a sheila who had difficulty conceiving she sure has no brains.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:28pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Not sure if she had any problem in that direction.
      
      It was Julie Getner that had difficulty in conceiving and carrying a pregnancy until full term.
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/green-mp-julie-anne-genter-excited-surprise-pregnancy-after-suffering-two-miscarriages
      
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      December 3, 2018 6:27pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Nah, it really isn’t her only goal. If only that were so!!
    
    Anyway, who’s most likely to have abortions: future Labour voters.
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:29pm
bouden

Regarding “Giant cow sparks outrage” … I do get annoyed at the insistence that these extra-large cattle beasts in the news of late are cows. They are not. The Belgian Blue depicted is quite obviously a bull, and others in the news are steers (castrated bulls). Cows are female. Is this all part of the drive for gender reassignment?
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December 3, 2018 11:15am
- rangitoto
  
  Yeah but the bull might identify as a cow. No bull.
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:19am
- cmm
  
  They couldn’t get is into an abattoir… what about home kill then?
  
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  December 3, 2018 12:40pm
stigie

Fuck me, why can’t they for just once a year stick to the tradition of having Santa dressed in a red outfit along with a grey beard and white gloves so the kids can enjoy this great tradition ?
Leave the multi cultural shit out of the arena for just one day so kids know who he really is.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12170284
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December 3, 2018 11:36am
- Longknives
  
  All these SJW Lefties are forgetting that Santa is for the kids!
  Nobody cares what skin colour he is- But he should be a jolly bearded fat man in a Red Suit!
  NOT a dickhead dressed as a Maori Warrior trying to ‘staunch’ everyone out…
  
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  December 3, 2018 11:44am
  - lifesgood
    
    Oh but those bloody maoris scream blue murder about anyone appropriating their culture. Santa is our culture so for goodness sake leave him alone. Ponsonby Central food hall is also in on the act with a disgusting statue of Santa with his clothes open and a suspender belt and stockings on. I suppose what more can you expect from Ponsonby. Isn’t it a shame that kids are not allowed to enjoy Christmas anymore without idiots high jacking it for their own selfish agendas.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:28pm
KeaRea

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scott-stearney-us-navy-admiral-found-dead-apparent-suicide-2018-12-01/

Vice admiral for the Middle East US Navy found dead of ‘suicide’. There has been a lot of these recently. Vice admirals don’t typically kill themselves. I wonder which it was. Did the ‘best ally’ disapprove of his stance on not appreciating Iran false flags? Or, did he receive a notice from the least worst guys some clandestine activities were observed and given an opportunity to avoid accountability? Probably the former. Either way, it’s unusual for all these rankimg guys to keep dying or being relieved of positions. Almost like there is some kind of conflict underway.
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December 3, 2018 11:57am
dcrown

America’s deficit is unsustainable. They must slash all entitlements, Medicare, Medicade and Social Security before it’s too late.
The whole thing is a ponzi scheme waiting to implode …

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/419161-our-deficits-may-finally-be-coming-home-to-roost
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December 3, 2018 12:11pm
- KevOB
  
  They may just have to give up foreign wars and bases. The USA is looking much like the Roman Empire before its collapse: too much external emphasis and lack of attention at home.
  
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  December 3, 2018 12:17pm
  - dcrown
    
    Or even modern day Greece.
    
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    December 3, 2018 1:01pm
Manolo

Pinko Turnbull is hellbent on revenge:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/reevenge-turnbull-smashes-morrison-kelly-liberals/news-story/72994762bc87bd4eefeda6afdc434852

Malcolm Turnbull is madly desperate to destroy the Liberals to show they were wrong to sack him.
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December 3, 2018 12:18pm
realityczech

I said yesterday that the media will be taking immediate action over Labour’s drop in the polls and I predicted a baybeeeee story.

First thing this morning it began.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/108949183/clarke-gayford-on-the-pressures-of-being-a-stayathome-dad-to-neve-te-aroha
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December 3, 2018 12:24pm
- fernglas
  
  I see that he says he might post the odd picture of a cute outfit on social media. I bet he gets paid for that.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:30pm
- oldgolfer
  
  You are right, realityczech, but from what I hear, Joe Public is heartily sick of Silly Cindy, Gayford in his cardy and the bloody baby.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:47pm
  - realityczech
    
    Someone yesterday suggested a Golden Retriever with a sore paw might be a better leader for National.
    
    Given the behaviour of many voters I reckon they were onto something.
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:23pm
starboard

Calling Don Brash, come in Don!

Don Brash for PM.
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December 3, 2018 12:34pm
starboard

Liarbor..fuck off

Nats..get fucked

Peters…you %#*& %@#! of a human being..fuck off

Green scum…same as Liarbor, as above.
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December 3, 2018 12:36pm
- stigie
  
  The choices we have starboard ole chap !~
  
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  December 3, 2018 12:44pm
  - Happychappy
    
    stigie : Thats what happens to people like starboard they vote for Winston First and then get withdrawal symptoms when it all turns to shit and then blame everyone else for their own stupidity.
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:00pm
    - starboard
      
      Didn’t vote for the weasel. Thought about it, but wasted my votes on 2 ticks blue.
      Unfortunately its a case of tweedle dumb and tweedle dee.
      
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      December 3, 2018 4:01pm
- Tall Man
  
  FFS, go back to bed and get out the other side.
  
  The world will look different then, I hope 🙂
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:59pm
krazykiwi

UK Labour MP Kate Osamor has quit the shadow front bench after reportedly attacking a journalist who asked questions about her son’s conviction for having £2,500-worth of drugs with the intent to supply.

The [resignation] came just hours after The Times alleged Osamor had threatened a reporter who approached her for comment on whether she had misled the public over how much she knew about the drugs conviction of her son, Ishmael, whom she employs in her Commons office on a substantial salary.

She reportedly told the journalist to “f*** off” and threw a bucket of water at him, proclaiming that she “should have come down here with a bat and smashed your face in”.

Labour: Give it a red rosette and call it a petri dish for violence, corruption and nepotism.
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December 3, 2018 12:47pm
BananaLlama

So the government coalition is down 5 points across the board and they are about to put through a capital gains tax and sign the UN Migration pact. Don’t think 4% is enough to kill off NZF, Peters is a renown shit stirrer so i would like to see them on 3% before i could say they have been written off. The Greens being on 5% are in more danger imo as they tend to fall short on election day.
Hopefully Bridges hammers home taxes, immigration and law and order. I think that will win him the next election. Labour are doing a great job at blowing themselves up over Social issues.
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December 3, 2018 12:48pm
- Poppa
  
  I won’t be happy until Peters has sunk without trace taking that melonhead Jones with him
  
  The trouble is that the Greens have a core nutcase base so will probably always get about 5%
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:09pm
- DigNap15
  
  Yes, but was it not National that let in all the Indian students.
  
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  December 3, 2018 1:24pm
  - BananaLlama
    
    Yeah but they can say they want a points based blah blah while Jacinda wants beneficiaries from the U.N who don’t contribute.
    
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    December 3, 2018 2:31pm
cmm

Stuff: ”
OPINION: We’re the third-fattest in the world.
”

Liar liar pants on fire!

According to the WHO data on obesity on Wikipedia we’re 22nd, after most of the Pacific nations, USA and most of the Middle East.
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December 3, 2018 1:16pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  Maybe they were just looking around their Stuffy office?
  
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  December 3, 2018 3:40pm
lifesgood

Unfortunately the Greens pick up heaps of votes from doped up kids overseas on their big OEs/gap years who want to think of NZ as an idyllic paradise they will return to one day. Many never return and they should not be allowed to vote. How dare they make decisions we have to live with and they don’t.
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December 3, 2018 1:24pm
Poppa

I think I need to build an ark!

Getting absolutely smashed by rain at the moment. With thunder & lightning very intense
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December 3, 2018 1:26pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Where are you Poppa? Yet another calm sunny day here in the Hutt Valley, 26C.
  
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  December 3, 2018 2:35pm
  - Longknives
    
    The sun always shines on the Hutt Valley Capt!
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:35pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Update.
    Up to 29C now.
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:50pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Now it’s bloody 30. At 5.30pm!
      
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      December 3, 2018 5:28pm
- burt
  
  Thunderbolt and lightening – very very frightening!
  
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  December 3, 2018 4:02pm
Philview

I was watching the TVNZ news last about 2 “assaults” at Hillmorton Hospital in Christchurch. It had already been circulated online that a nurse was stabbed there yesterday and a few days ago a nurse received severe burns when she had boiling water poured over her. It seemed to me that the Government through their media support at TVNZ were downplaying the seriousness of those incidents. I wonder why that is?
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December 3, 2018 1:47pm
- burt
  
  They might have though it was an outbreak of a deadly disease and though they needed to keep it covered up as long as possible.
  
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  December 3, 2018 4:01pm
Ross12

Discontent in Europe is spreading. Beginning of the end ?

https://www.coolinfo24.com/2018/12/01/civil-war-erupts-in-sweden-as-irate-swedes-burn-nine-muslim-refugee-centers-to-the-ground/
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December 3, 2018 1:52pm
- stephieboy
  
  Ross 12 , another alt right rag where they ( amongst many things ) cheer for Ted Nugent who pees in the pockets of the NRA,
  
  https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion/guest-commentary/article207953804.html
  
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  December 3, 2018 2:26pm
  - starboard
    
    “FAP FAP FAP FAPPPPPPPPPPPPP”!! goes the Starbucks shariabird…
    
    LOL !
    
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    December 3, 2018 2:32pm
  - Ross12
    
    So if the photos were in the NYT it would be different somehow stephieboy ?
    
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    December 3, 2018 2:46pm
  - Longknives
    
    Just for you Stephie!
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_i1YSa9xww
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:34pm
  - realityczech
    
    Stuuupidboy, Ted Nugent is a top bloke. Not a brainless celebrity who fame whores for profit. He has principles.
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:37pm
- DigNap15
  
  I’d like to think so.
  Need to burn a whole lot more and to give them all a free flight home to any desert they desire.
  
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  December 3, 2018 3:40pm
dcrown

Occasional Cortex is a stupid persons version of Sarah Palin.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/419349-ocasio-cortez-says-death-panels-now-exist-in-health-care
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December 3, 2018 1:56pm
- stephieboy
  
  Now, who gave the lie about Obamacare death panels?
  
  https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/10/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-barack-obama-death-panel/
  
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  December 3, 2018 2:27pm
  - dcrown
    
    Lie of the Year: ‘If you like your health care plan, you can keep it’
    
    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/
    
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    December 3, 2018 4:58pm
Captain Mainwaring

That part of Petone is SUCH a nice place.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109042351/head-thrown-from-petone-apartment-after-decapitation-says-witness

The Nats got rid of half the state houses there. Can’t see the CoL finishing the job.
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December 3, 2018 2:33pm
- DigNap15
  
  Geez, what was a 71 year old guy doing?
  And the gangs seem out of control.
  
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  December 3, 2018 3:38pm
  - burt
    
    He’s lost his head – he knows not what he’s doing!
    
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    December 3, 2018 3:58pm
  - bouden
    
    Just trying to meet rent, man.
    
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    December 3, 2018 4:34pm
- DigNap15
  
  He was “decapitated in the old school way”
  Is there a newer way of doing it?
  And someone threw it back.
  Nice.
  
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  December 3, 2018 4:14pm
tedbear

like this KrazyKiwi?
I’ve seen some blogs have an emoticons/text options built in the comment box.
Thank you
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December 3, 2018 3:15pm
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  And have a look here for how to insert symbols, emoticons etc.
  
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  December 3, 2018 5:43pm
rightoverlabour

some good news

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46422036

Great Map in the article, but why would they use shades of Green to show percentages?

Any ideas of what good Nationalist Colours are?

Like the Good Old Confederate Battle Flag
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December 3, 2018 3:25pm
Jack5

More violence in Melbourne involving young criminals.

But you won’t see the word “Africans” or “refugees” until this, the 12th or 13th paragraph in the report (police superintendent speaking):

“From what we’ve seen, by and large, there were smaller groups of African-Australians there but by 11pm they became a larger group and started fighting amongst themselves. That’s when we moved in.”

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/not-a-contributing-factor-police-say-drinking-wasn-t-behind-st-kilda-mayhem-20181203-p50jsd.html
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December 3, 2018 4:12pm
- DigNap15
  
  I can’t believe how the Aussie let these scum in.
  What possible use will they ever be?
  
  And they were “African- Australian”!!
  
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  December 3, 2018 4:16pm
Hugh Pavletich

Australian house prices falling at fastest pace since the GFC … Sydney Morning Herald

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/house-prices-falling-at-fastest-pace-since-the-gfc-20181203-p50jtf.html

Google New Search ‘Sydney Housing’

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=sydney+housing&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7zrf71oLfAhWZV30KHQ_nC50Q_AUIDygC&biw=946&bih=416

CoreLogic Australia News

https://www.corelogic.com.au/news
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Access earlier post …

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/12/links-3-december-2018/#comment-3239898

… AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND: How degraded is mortgage lending ? …
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December 3, 2018 4:44pm
- starboard
  
  ” NURSE”
  
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  December 3, 2018 5:28pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    REVEALED: How Australia’s property crash is on track to be the worst EVER with Sydney house prices set to plunge by as much as $200,000 … UK Daily Mail
    
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6453223/Sydney-housing-plunge-tipped-worst-dire-1990s-recession-CoreLogic-says.html
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    Sydney housing downturn to eclipse 1989 recession … News Com Au
    
    It’s the worst possible news for homeowners. New data shows a dramatic plunge in house prices amid warnings of a $200,000 wipe-out.
    
    https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/sydney-housing-downturn-to-eclipse-1989-recession/news-story/b2c328d3c1da8db297ea806b82b15f5e
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:40pm
Nostradamus

I see Stephieboy is fluttering about the thread.

Some Kiwiblog readers may have missed this exchange on Friday:

Secondcumming: A Roman walks into a pub, raises two fingers in the air and says, “Five beers please”

Stephieboy: ???

I showed the joke to my 10-year-old daughter. She understood it instantly. She also laughed at Stephieboy’s “???” and the other responses to him.

If a young child thinks that, then it definitely reinforces to me that Stephieboy is Kiwiblog’s dumbest commentator!
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December 3, 2018 5:08pm
- rangitoto
  
  SB does seem to display an extreme case of the Dunning–Kruger effect.
  
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  December 3, 2018 5:15pm
- Swifty
  
  Of that there is no doubt.
  
  And one of the most ill-meaning too, I have recently concluded.
  
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  December 3, 2018 5:17pm
  - rangitoto
    
    I would feel some pity for SB but not with the nasty attacks on Maggie and others.
    
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    December 3, 2018 5:21pm
    - Swifty
      
      Agreed – he’s a nasty, smarmy little fucker who purposely comes on here to abuse other posters daily thinking he’s some kind of white knight – and, I’ve recently decided, he deserves all he gets.
      
      BTW – he converts nobody to his view and that says a lot about him and his approach.
      
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      December 3, 2018 5:30pm
Rodney Randall

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109049566/home-invader-sentenced-to-community-work-three-years-on

Community work for home invasion+assault because fucked in the head so off to the Marae you go “because you have worked there before” Judge Jane Farish brain farts again.

Golf lessons and bbqs for would be Muslim terrorist who.failed at ISIS attack in Chch, despite a few ‘setbacks’. Judge Driscoll Brain Farts.

Judge Driscoll and Judge Farish need to be removed from the bench immediately and put out to pasture.

They are deliberately putting the lives of Chch citizens at risk.
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December 3, 2018 5:44pm
- realityczech
  
  Severe sentences compared to what white collar crims get for robbing people of millions while in a position of trust.
  
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  December 3, 2018 6:36pm
  - DigNap15
    
    That is the old straw mans argument used by thugs to justify what they do.
    
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    December 3, 2018 6:46pm
    - realityczech
      
      It is a fact. Hit a nerve did I?
      
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      December 3, 2018 6:56pm
      - DigNap15
        
        Obviously both crimes are bad. But I’d rather have my savings stolen than by head bashed in.
        
        But community service for home ivasion is patently a very weak sentence in actual fact its a joke and a scandal.
        
        Just as that guy I forget his name with the flash house in a trust fund and a flash car managed to keep it all when he got out. (He and his wife should have lost every penny)
        
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        December 3, 2018 7:22pm
  - nasska
    
    While it’s true that white collar criminals get a fairly easy ride in NZ they don’t make an easy fit with the reasons for imprisonment, ie. retribution, deterrence, rehabilitation & incapacitation. The victims scream for retribution but the other factors are not predominant.
    
    Mind you, it is interesting to note that English law was originally set up to protect property rather than people.
    
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    December 3, 2018 6:57pm
- DigNap15
  
  We should change Andrew Little jobs title to the Minister of Lack of Justice.
  
  And yes those judges should be named and shamed and sacked and made to repay their last 2 years salary.
  
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  December 3, 2018 6:49pm
Swifty

Heh heh.

O’Connor rubbing Cindy up the wrong way again….

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12170542
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December 3, 2018 6:59pm
- Tall Man
  
  Typical ardern the liar response.
  
  He makes an intelligent comment which shows her up as the idiot she is.
  
  She is a liar and an incompetent one at that.
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:03pm
nasska

We, in NZ, need the right of recall over hopeless judges or an elected judiciary.

Sentencing is becoming a joke.
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December 3, 2018 7:01pm
- realityczech
  
  An elected judiciary will ensure people with money and power get an even softer deal, as they will promote the corrupt judges.
  
  Has stupidboy hacked your account?
  
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  December 3, 2018 7:07pm
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    People with “money & power” are not Muslims plotting carnage nor are they violent Maori home invaders.
    
    In any case we’d probably be better served by corrupt judges than bleeding heart SJWs who were too hopeless to make a decent living as lawyers.
    
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    December 3, 2018 7:13pm
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      Good example regarding radical Muslims. The biggest promoter of global terrorism is the filthy rich US ally Saudi Arabia. There is not even a close second.
      
      They spend billions building radical mosques all over the world with impunity. They are the number one source is radical Islam and get away with it because they are rich.
      
      A maori nicking your car is unfortunate, but nothing compared to the billions stolen by white collar crims every year.
      
      You are out of your mind if you think white collar crims get equal treatment.
      
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      December 3, 2018 7:25pm
Rodney Randall

https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/12/signing-the-un-migration-pact-presents-a-serious-risk-to-nz-citizens/

Have a read of the comments section.
National MPs ignoring voters emails detailing concern over this evil UN Migration Compact.

Do so at your own peril National!

Vichy National DEADLY silent.
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December 3, 2018 7:06pm
- Tall Man
  
  Off you go labour lad.
  
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  December 3, 2018 8:59pm
  - Rodney Randall
    
    Tall Man
    
    I’ve never voted Labour in my life nor will I ever.
    
    I despise the communists with a passion.
    
    I also despise your tribal loyalty to Labour-lite aka VICHY NATIONAL and eagerly await a RIGHT WING party who reclaim the original principles of the ‘National’ Party.
    
    Please tell me how Nationals NZHRC ‘submission’ (dated July 2017) to the UNHRC is going?
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:09pm
  - itstricky
    
    Off you go labour lad.
    
    Ah, the one eyedness of someone who is so deeply entrenched in their own hole they can’t see anything but the sides.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:30pm
    - Rodney Randall
      
      Precisely
      
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      December 3, 2018 10:34pm
nasska

A guide to Jacinda-speak:

Believe me. (I’m lying)

Well, I mean….. (I’m lying & stalling for time while I recall the reason as to why I’m lying)

To the best of my recollection. (I can’t remember what my last lie about the subject was)

Let me be absolutely clear. (I couldn’t lie straight in bed but the arse-lickers in the MSM won’t tell)
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December 3, 2018 8:01pm
- itstricky
  
  Did they mean the same thing when Key uttered them?
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:28pm
  - nasska
    
    Key was a man of probity & truth by comparison.
    
    Look…..I’m the first to admit that a little dishonesty is expected from politicians but Cindy baby has made an art form out of prevarication & blatant deceit.
    
    It’s got to the stage that not even a disinterested observer would construe her utterances as other than the mirror image of truth.
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:37pm
Kabull

I’ve just finished watching Mark Levin (Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox) interviewing Heather Mac Donald. Her views on migration, racial and sexual hysteria, and the rapid destruction of the American and Western societies is compulsory watching. She opines that America is now entering a real civil war. Its 40 minutes but it is a thought-provoking watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QKht_OP-p8
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December 3, 2018 8:10pm
Maggy Wassilieff

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/377404/retirement-commissoner-put-on-leave-investigation-into-alleged-bullying-launched
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December 3, 2018 8:58pm
- Nostradamus
  
  Maggy:
  
  A newspaper editor could have a fun with a headline like “Retirement Commisioner takes early retirement”!
  
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  December 3, 2018 9:16pm
  - nasska
    
    Quite right Nostra. As a poor old pensioner I just wouldn’t feel right about having a bully giving me unwanted, condescending, patronising help that none of us this side of a dementia ward need.
    
    The announcement that”Mr Faafoi has signalled he plans to consider other applicants for the role” lifts my spirits immensely. 🙂
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:27pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      Here’s where your taxpayer goes:
      
      Diane Maxwell, the Retirement Commissioner
      
      “Hi, I often say that I have the worst title for the best job. I get to help all New Zealanders on their journey towards retirement. ”
      
      The “Hi” seems rather patronising.
      
      And the leadership team isn’t much better:
      
      GM Community: “I’m responsible for leading the work focused on improving the wellbeing of New Zealanders most at risk of arriving at retirement in poor financial health. ”
      
      Director of Learning: “I’m responsible for leading the learning, behaviour change programmes and educational experiences that CFFC provides for New Zealanders to increase their financial capability.”
      
      Government Relations Manager: “I manage CFFC’s relationships across government including key stakeholders and the strategic direction for the delivery of the Sorted in Schools programme.”
      
      Head of Content: “I’m the Head of Content at CFFC and lead a team of marketers and content creators to inspire, inform and educate New Zealanders with relevant storytelling and tools across multiple communications channels, including the Sorted website, social media and news outlets.”
      
      Shut it down now!
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:41pm
  - Awww C-mon
    
    Seems she was not shy nor retiring
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:27pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Can’t see why Jacinda has stuck her oar into this affair
    
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern told reporters SSC was the “appropriate vehicle” to look into both the allegations and the organisation’s governance.
    
    Is Jacinda trying to paint herself as a decisive leader?
    
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    December 3, 2018 9:30pm
    - sooty
      
      Nah. The shits hitting the fan and she stinks to high heaven!
      
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      December 3, 2018 9:59pm
Suze Wainwright

Has Willie Jackson found his charges any ‘meaningful’ employment under his tenure yet?
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December 3, 2018 9:20pm
Rich Prick

A beheading in a Housing NZ estate full of Somalis, gee, our second Allah Akbar moment? Some kids apparently threw the head back up, what breed of children play basketball with a severed head? The “news” is pretty quiet about it though.
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