General Debate 9 February 2019

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Chuck Bird

Most corrupt government ever.
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February 9, 2019 8:04am
- secondcumming
  
  THE *2 TICKS RED* BRIGADE…..sound familiar? 😎
  
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DytDYYCWsAADpPt.jpg
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:10am
  - Tall Man
    
    First marriage ;(
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:28am
    - Muttonbird
      
      She dodged a bullet.
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:31pm
      - Tall Man
        
        Better to be a single miserable tosser like you eh?
        
        Just for the record, dodging the bullet would be to never do it but then a thicko loke yourself couldn’t figure that out.
        
        That’s why you think ardern the liar is just so …”awesome”…
        
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        February 10, 2019 9:40am
- Rich Prick
  
  Shane Jones, Northland. All of our money for a few more votes.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:21am
- stigie
  
  Can’t wait for Tuesday when the Prime Minister will till NZ in her statement how good the COL are doing and how they will deliver this year……
  National are going to have a field day with the lies of delivery and obfuscation from all quarters from this rabble !~
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:24am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Mallard has new batteries in his warehouse hearing aid and will be ready to run interference for a second trimester with more impartiality
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:30am
    - Gandolfo
      
      you mean “more partiality”?
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:55am
      - Salacious Crumb
        
        Cos nothing says impartial like a Speaker who sits in on an government caucus meeting.
        Corrupt old wanker.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:21am
    - Tall Man
      
      Probably why the “silly little girl” statement was echoing in his head.
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:30am
    - madamezucchininz
      
      ….if I were part of the opposition….. I would be calling for a vote of no confidence in the Speaker Mallard……due to many conflicts of interest……he should not have been at the Liarbor caucus retreat…..totally impartial….
      
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      February 9, 2019 12:47pm
  - Happychappy
    
    stigie I can’t wait for Lees- Galloway to change his mind again and give the Chec drug smuggler residency now they have issued him with a passport in his his actual name.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:33am
    - Inandout
      
      Happy, it is all those names in the note book you see, bloody diabolical liberty.
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:05am
    - artemisia
      
      Wouldn’t that passport be from his home country?
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:02am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Unemployment down she says, but the other day here DPF had a post that said unemployment was up 10000. I think SLG told another lie
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:48am
    - DigNap15
      
      Yes Sepuloni herself said that there are 10,000 more people of the job seeker allowance.
      Due mainly to removing the youth rate pay rate, and the sanctions on benefits.
      
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      February 10, 2019 4:13pm
  - Dave Mann
    
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    National are going to have a field day with the lies of delivery and obfuscation
    
    Correction. A real opposition party would have a field day. But National isn’t really an effective opposition is it? No fire. No passion. No leader.
    
    National is just sitting it out hoping like hell that by some miracle they might find themselves accidentally in government one day and then they might… umm… well… they’ll think about that when the time comes. Probably.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:39am
    - Dave Mann
      
      BTW I have to laugh when some of you guys say that National are cleverly biding their time, just watching the COL making fools of themselves. Priceless stuff.
      
      Have I mentioned before that what we desperately need is a party which actually recognises the rot that has set into New Zealand and has a plan to fix it?
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:37am
      - Tall Man
        
        We do, you’re just too dumb to see it.
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:16pm
    - Tall Man
      
      Just trolling again dave to see how many people bite?
      
      Simon Bridges may not be your cup of tea, although god knows who would be, but he is head and shoulders above any of the three so called “leaders” within the coalition.
      
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      February 9, 2019 12:18pm
- DifferentPerspective
  
  Indeed they are. The new socialism is all about giving effect to Goebbel’s advice “Accuse the enemy of that which you are guilty of” and “Make the lie so big that no one can believe you have the audacity to tell it”.
  
  You inspect everything from the COL and it fits one of these two golden rules.
  
  BTW – wasn’t the SOTU great. Those airheads in white!!! Can you imagine their conversation beforehand.
  
  Dumb Democrat Bitch1: “How can we stick it to Trump?”
  
  DDB2: “I know! Let’s all dress up like Hilary when she looked like a moron at the convention with her mouth wide open – white pant suit – that’ll intimidate Donald”
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:33am
  - vincent van gogh
    
    I was asked recently what it meant to me on Waitangi Day. I replied it made me think about my father who served in the Royal New Zealand Navy during WWII, my grandfather who fought in Samoa and the Western Front during WWI and my great uncle who was killed on the Somme in September 1916. Their service was not just about doing their duty to our Sovereign, it was about standing up and proving ourselves as a nation in our own right. When asked what the Treaty of Waitangi meant to me, my answer was “nothing”. The Treaty was for the benefit of Maori.. it gave them Sovereignty, property rights and citisenship.. things many in the world are desperate for today and I already had then. The Treaty was not for the benefit of Europeans, most of whom had escaped their own killing fields horror.. in my families case as Lowlanders in Scotland suffering the slaughter of our families by the invading English.
    Our ancestors like most escaped and moved to a better place to establish a new identity, something my parents and grandparents were prepared to sacrifice their lives for.
    It seems to me the current grievance climate seems to ignore that most if not all of our families have suffered. We are trying to build a successful community and country but because of the luxury of democracy and free speech, every grievance and societal winge group has hijacked policy and social debate.
    History suggests the grievance and social warrior groups will fail but they may do some damage before their demise.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:22pm
    - vincent van gogh
      
      As an addendum to my post to explain “damage”.. it’s a well documented fact that global societies have gravitated betweeen capitalist and socialist/communist/fascist poles. Capitalism is not perfect but in the words of Winston Churchill it’s the best of a short list, of words to that effect.
      Capitalism allows the creation of wealth but for those who can’t/don’t produce it, it creates an equality grievance. Eventually the imbalance becomes so great we have a change as the political axis swings left. This is where we are now. This phase can last many years until bankruptcy or war eventuates.
      The problem with socialism/nationalism/command economies is they don’t allow competition, dissection, freedom of thought. Without natural competition and incentives (pay offs) to think outside the square, there is no innovation. Without innovation, there is no productive growth. This is why some prefer to steal others ideas/technology or blatantly lie Gain economic and political advantage..
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:50pm
- thedavincimode
  
  You voted for it chuckie.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:59am
- JimBobJoe
  
  and it is brought to you by NZ First voters….”Keeping National honest” I seem to recall was their rallying call as the flocked to Winston’s cult of personality …..
  
  Buyers regret much, there Chuck?
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:27pm
Longknives

Remember during the last Election when Labour and the Greens blamed every suicide in New Zealand on those Evil Nats?
Jacinda ‘absoludely pwomised’ she was going to get the suicide rate down to zero.
What has she actually done? This issue certainly seems to have slipped off her radar…(Protecting Czech Drug Dealers is clearly way,way more important..)

*An old friend from University took his life during the week- Talking about it with friends reminded me of how heavily Labour politicised this dreadful issue during the Election, and how it has been pretty much forgotten again now…
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February 9, 2019 8:08am
- waikatogirl
  
  Sorry to hear that Lk. Dreadful for all his family and close friends. Condolences.
  Cindy was very cavalier with her promise to get the suicide rate to zero. Think what mental health services could have done with that $100m she squandered on maori land last week.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:12am
  - BushBaby
    
    2019 will be the year of recalibration.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:42am
  - RF
    
    Yes it is sad as it’s very tough on those left behind to pick up the pieces.
    
    It’s bloody insulting for Ardern to talk of zero suicides just like its so bloody stupid for that green pond scum JAG to promise a zero road toll target.
    
    Talk is so cheap.
    
    I know the left follow Kiwiblog so it must hurt them to read that they are detested.
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:15am
- Psycho Milt
  
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  Jacinda ‘absoludely pwomised’ she was going to get the suicide rate down to zero.
  
  When you make a claim that a politician promised the impossible, include a link to the promise or you’re just spouting shit. Especially if you use quotation marks in your claim.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:14am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    The point though Psycho is that this lot made such a big thing about mental health at election time. My local red list MP told me the two biggest election issues were housing and mental health. What have they done so far?
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:19am
    - howitis
      
      FUBAR
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:16am
    - Suze Wainwright
      
      You’re being a bit harsh on their mental health improvement record – aren’t you finding that laughter really is the best medicine…?
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:14am
  - fernglas
    
    It was a goal, not a promise, I think.
    
    “When it comes to suicide, Jacinda Ardern doesn’t believe in setting a target “that’s anything other than zero”.
    
    “Anything else suggests we have a tolerance for loss to suicide in New Zealand, and we shouldn’t have a tolerance for loss to suicide in New Zealand,” the Labour Party leader said at Parliament on Sunday”.
    
    Stuff 10/9/17. Sorry, can’t do links
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:21am
    - Pascal
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96692936/labour-leader-jacinda-ardern-tells-families-of-those-lost-to-suicide-you-will-be-heard
      
      There is the link. Ardern is a master at doublespeak. She skirts around actual commitments and always sounds as if she’s promising something, but she leaves herself outs and the means to deflect from it.
      
      A reasonable person would walk away from her speech thinking she was aiming for zero as a target. You’d know it was unachievable, but you’d also know from her speech that Labour was going to do everything for mental health they could. It was going to be a “focus”.
      
      And hey, it has been a focus. Until the election. Then it was lost amongst the bribes for more votes for next election.
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:18am
    - howitis
      
      Nope.
      This stuff is ‘aspirational’
      It is lofty goals made by dreamers like a stoner flopped out on a couch saying “I was going to do the Coast-To-Coast this weekend but I never got a roundtuit. Next year, then”
      
      The COL statements are about as useful as a junky telling you they will clean up ‘next week’.
      
      When you look at the raw materials that make up the Ministers of the Crown (hard to get that one out) you will see a bunch of long term students, grifters, and 35 year old teenage maturity political junkies with no practical work experience and a complete antipathy on all levels to work in the private sector.
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:28am
      - auckwood
        
        Just to confirm Howitis’s statement on the experience of the retards “leading” this country…
        
        Make-up of Labour-led Coalition Cabinet:
        Jacinda Ardern, 38 (born in Auckland); University; Government/Policy advisor.
        Winston Peters, 73 (Whangarei); University; Teacher, lawyer, blast-furnace worker, tunneller.
        Kelvin Davis, 51 (Kawakawa); University; Teacher, principal.
        Grant Robertson, 46 (Palmerston North); University; Govt, ministerial advisor.
        Phil Twyford, 55 (Auckland); University; Union organiser, Oxfam NZ director.
        Megan Woods, 44 (Wigram); University; Business manager.
        Chris Hipkins, 40 (Wellington); University; Policy advisor.
        Andrew Little, 53 (New Plymouth); University; Union lawyer.
        Carmel Sepuloni, 41 (Waitara): University; Teacher, equity manager.
        David Clark, 45 (Auckland); University; Treasury analyst, warden Selwyn College.
        David Parker, 58 (Roxburgh); University; Lawyer, manager.
        Nanaia Mahuta, 48 (Huntly); University; Politics.
        Stuart Nash, 51 (Napier); University; Management.
        Iain Lees-Galloway, 40 (Auckland); University; Nursing union.
        Jenny Salesa, 50 (Tonga); University; Policy analyst/advisor.
        Damien O’Connor, 60 (Westport); no uni; Sharemilker, fencer, business owner.
        Ron Mark, 64 (Carterton); No uni; Army, local body politics
        Tracey Martin, 53 (Levin); No uni; Homemaker, credit controller.
        Shane Jones, 59 (Awanui); University; Business, management.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:46am
  - Longknives
    
    “you’re just spouting shit”
    
    Thanks for those touching words Milt.
    Pretty much confirms what I thought about those on the Political Left..(My friend was a White Male as well- So that ought to have you crowing with delight)
    Oh and as other have alluded to- Suicide WAS heavily politicised by Labour during the Election.
    And since then they have done absolutely nothing.
    Not a fucking thing.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:25am
    - waikatogirl
      
      Sad frowny face from Cindy, and maybe even a few tears when she looked at all the shoes all laid out representing those who had committed suicide. Serious moment of virtue signalling from Cindy on how sad and unnecessary the loss of so many NZ’er is.
      
      So instead the priority when distributing $100m of taxpayers money was instead to give it to maori for scrubby land use?
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:34am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        And to build houses for DINKYs to profit from.
        And to pay off a Technology advisor mate
        And to commute to Nauru
        And for political tourism at Davos
        And for sprinkling all over the Pacific Islands
        And for turning pine seedlings into mulch
        And for the Pike River fiasco
        And for …
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:01am
      - slightlyrighty
        
        It’s not enough to talk about people killing themselves. You have to give them something to live for.
        
        One wonders about the stress of anyone employed in the Oil and Gas exploration industry.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:14am
      - kowtow
        
        slightlyrightly
        
        ‘ It’s not enough to talk about people killing themselves. You have to give them something to live for.’
        
        Not the gubmint’s job.
        
        You are responsible for your own happiness.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:16am
      - sooty
        
        We all know how they all entertain them selves.
        Don’t we!
        Every party needs a good supply of lawnmowers!
        Too do that you need a good lawnmower salesman!
        It’s a bugger when he gets put in prison for the importation of lawnmowers!
        Just reading between the lines!
        But you wood’n know it!
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:03pm
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      If you’re saying that you made a baseless claim about a politician you dislike because you were grieving for a friend, then sure – grief affects people in odd ways, and I apologise for intruding on yours. Otherwise, your friend’s death is irrelevant to the discussion.
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:34am
      - Rich Prick
        
        ^^^
        The caring left.
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:40am
      - Brian Marshall
        
        Fuck you have your retard setting on max. Fernglas gave you the details. I used his details and searched in google. You should try it sometimes. It’s very easy to do.
        This was my first link which fernglas was quoting from.
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96692936/labour-leader-jacinda-ardern-tells-families-of-those-lost-to-suicide-you-will-be-heard
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:45am
      - Longknives
        
        They are all class aren’t they Rich Prick?
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:45am
      - JibberJabber
        
        Heh, Psycho got an early txt to get the fuck on to KB pronto, that`s why it`s in a shitty mood.
        It`s a hard road denying reality and having to push the lefty fuckwittery this early in the morning.
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:45am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        This was my first link which fernglas was quoting from.
        
        OK, now please point out the bit where “Jacinda ‘absoludely pwomised’ she was going to get the suicide rate down to zero.”
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:53am
      - Pascal
        
        Never heard of hyperbole, have you? Read her statements without bias. Then come back here and try to politicise suicide like Ardern did.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:20am
      - septic skeptic
        
        You can’t take ANYTHING Ardern says at face value. She has clearly been trained during her Comms degree to avoid telling outright provable lies for the most part. But whenever you hear her waffling and obfuscating, you can be pretty sure the impression she just gave you is incorrect. Some might call it misdirection but most laymen would call it lying.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:27am
    - Steve (North Shore)
      
      Ignore him LK. He is just a troll
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:52am
  - kevn
    
    @PM… Goes along the ‘zero road toll’ from jag.
    Full of sh*t.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:28am
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      It certainly does. That’s another one that right-wingers regularly falsely claim to have been a promise, and one that had to be kept in their first year of office.
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:35am
      - Rachael Membery
        
        More, don’t promise what you can’t deliver and don’t politicize suicide. Are Labour going to take responsibility if their policies have caused the victim undue stress, that led to his mental state? No?
        
        Then don’t in turn put the blame on other parties when there are suicides during their tenure.
        
        Something like holding themselves to the same standard that they expect others to abide by.
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:58am
      - Brian Marshall
        
        Like shooting fish in a barrel.
        
        https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/102941775/government-looks-at-targeting-zero-road-deaths-and-serious-injuries-from-2020
        
        FFS. Lay off the meth at this time of the morning Psycho.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:02am
      - pentwig
        
        psycho one
        you need a dose of reality pills urgently
        slow day on your blog today or nothing positive to write about?
        the stranded dont like your trolling?
        boo hoo!
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:41am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        Like shooting fish in a barrel.
        
        OK, now use that awesome fish-shooting gun you apparently own to point out the bit where Genter promises to reduce the road toll to zero.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:37am
      - auckwood
        
        The very first 2 sentences from that article state:
        “The Government will look at introducing a zero road death policy by 2020 as it strives to curb the country’s “unacceptable” road toll.
        
        Associate Transport Minister Julie Anne Genter made the announcement at the local government road safety summit in Wellington on Monday, telling guests local and central government needed to work together to make the ambition a reality.”
        
        But I hate to admit this, Psycho is kinda right in a way… like every other dog shit they roll in glitter, no promise is ever actually made. Just ‘looking at introducing” a zero road death/10000 houses a year/a billion trees planted by nephews/making changes to immagration to make it easier for personal drug dealers to be deported/wellbeing budget etc etc….
        
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        February 9, 2019 11:05am
      - Lance
        
        Psycho is a mindless troll, facts are irrelevant to such a lefty
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:02pm
  - Happychappy
    
    Your selective memory in play again Psycho Milt instead of getting other to supply links for you try yourself, but that’s right the left are Lazy and want everybody else to do their work.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:42am
    - Psycho Milt
      
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      Try googling “burden of proof,” it’ll help you look less ignorant.
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:49am
      - sooty
        
        Are you todays rostered troll?
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:58am
      - Rich Prick
        
        Beyond reasonable doubt, or just on the balance of probabilities? You must be more exacting if you demand the discharge of the burden of proof. Oh hang on, this is just a blog.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:12am
      - Happychappy
        
        I gave you proof several days ago about Andrew Little but you choose to ignore it and continued with your spiel of false statements and lies.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:16am
      - Psycho Milt
        
        Oh hang on, this is just a blog.
        
        Yes, it is. Which means a range of opinionated people claims about various subjects, in public and in writing. It’s up to the people making claims to offer proof, not the people who doubt their claims.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:19am
      - Psycho Milt
        
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        I gave you proof several days ago about Andrew Little…
        
        Well, yes, that’s how this works. Someone (can’t remember if it was you) made a claim about Little with no link provided (from memory, that as Leader of the Opposition he’d expressed opinions on what Pharmac should subsidise or not subsidise, as Key had done in 2008 over Herceptin). I said I didn’t recall that, and you provided a link. That’s it, all sorted, everything working like it’s supposed to.
        
        And, seeing as I made a claim about Key doing the same thing as Little in 2008, here’s a link to it: https://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/heroines-welcome-herceptin-funding-2008121017. It’s not rocket science.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:31am
      - JimBobJoe
        
        hahahahahahhaha…
        
        You go Psycho!!!
        
        Defend the COL ‘almost’ promises by pointing out they never commit to anything like zero suicides or zero road toll….they just virtue signal in the direction of the issues, play with peoples emotions about the issues and then they scurry away having committed to nothing and done nothing…. sorrrrrrry they do do something – they form working groups and throw taxpayers money at unmeasurable initiatives and then scurry away….because spending other peoples money IS caring (achieving shit is for nasty righties after all, its spending other peoples money and sticking it to Rich pricks that really counts)
        
        Or even better they commit to a target – e.g. Kiwibuild – but ‘re-calibrate’ the target to be ‘aspirational’ when interim milestone measures on the way to the ultimate goal get inconveniently talked about as the those interim milestone measures are missed…
        
        Your choice of Governing Parties are pretty rubbish Milt…..and they have declining credibility when it comes to measurable success.
        
        Now as you are so good at this debate game – discuss how many Angels can fit on the head of a Pin. For a solid Maoist/Marxist/Leninist/Trotskyist/Rabid Bat shit Crazy Green (you choose which you truly self Identify with) should be a quick discussion…
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:46pm
  - Woz
    
    Ignore the psycho. He doesn’t understand the difference between a paraphrase and a quote.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:21am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Hey Psycho @ 8:34
    Show me the quotation marks used in Longknives’ post.
    
    “Especially if you use quotation marks in your claim.”
    
    Fool.
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:22am
    - Psycho Milt
      
      Show me the quotation marks used in Longknives’ post.
      
      ‘absoludely pwomised’
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:34am
      - Shaun the Sheep
        
        “ “ these are quotation marks
        ‘ ‘ these are not.
        
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        February 9, 2019 8:06pm
  - Salacious Crumb
    
    Well Thicky needs to start with her own. Cracks are appearing and if she found being an opposition nobody stressful; how about Accidental PM + Unplanned Pregnancy + Unintended Relationship.
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:25am
- JibberJabber
  
  What she has actually done is, she`s got her mates in the lickspittle media to stop reporting on all her promises, so now Homelessness/ suicides et al have been fixed, no longer the wall to wall coverage as per pre-election.
  History is not going to be kind to this cabal of Lazy inept useless wasters.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:28am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    I sorta miss Crumble and those fridge porn pieces to camera, the solitary apple in a sparking clean fridge
    
    Made me ashamed, my fridge was never as clean aside from the day it was delivered; I don’t have any apples in my fridge, a steak and a beer or two but nary an apple
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:34am
  - Psycho Milt
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    What she has actually done is, she`s got her mates in the lickspittle media to stop reporting on all her promises…
    
    I hear Bill English flew to Mecca on a winged horse, too.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:37am
    - sooty
      
      Come on you can be nastier than that.
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:59am
    - JibberJabber
      
      So you`re not denying that Jacinduh and her Garden Gnome Caucus aren`t a cabal of Lazy inept useless wasters then?
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:10am
    - madamezucchininz
      
      geez Milt ….your’e an idiot….
      
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      February 9, 2019 11:10am
  - tf78
    
    Unfortunately Jibber it depends on who writes the history – these days it’s all being re-written.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:18am
- Chris R
  
  Knives: You’re right.Didn’t Jacinda especially focus on youth suicides rather than look at the statistics which reveal middle-aged farmers are vulnerable to suicide too. Perhaps middle-aged farmers are simply evil capitalists and therefore their stresses are irrelevant?
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:43am
- Harkman
  
  I saw a Facebook link to Cindy’s business nz speech yesterday and underneath in the chat room they were all ridiculing her. Her pixie dust appears to be only working on One News, Herald and Stuff reporters. Expect gigantic handouts offered next year and widespread breaking of election rules to get back in.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:28am
  - Paulus
    
    Why did we not hear from our real Princess that it was once indicated that Little and Peters would enter the Mine Portal this coming week remember – 11th February if I remember correctly ?
    Assume they are in training ?
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:27pm
- Tall Man
  
  Sorry to hear that.
  
  I heard there is a new book out called “Knowing”.
  
  I believe it is geared towards young people with anxiety and is recommended reading for them when the symtoms appear. Unfortunately those “symptoms” are often well hidden.
  
  http://askdoctorknow.com/
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:22pm
  - Tall Man
    
    Would love to see a comment from the coardly downticker…
    
    Probably a total loser like muttonbird or steffy but there are few here lately.
    
    You have to wonder why, do they just get a buzz from the comments pointing out how dumb they are…
    
    Just shows me that they have serious issues in their own lives and need to attack others to make themselves feel worthwhile.
    
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    February 10, 2019 9:43am
timmydevo

If you want the LGBT+ movement embraced by all, then don’t make its headline promoting act of “unity” a circus parade. Then you’ll find that people won’t view your relationship as a circus act either.

The demise of the pride parade will do more to raise the profile of the LGBT movement in the long run.
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February 9, 2019 8:10am
- KevOB
  
  That profile is already too high.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:20am
- Rich Prick
  
  I think the Auckland Council support of KiwiFist was a bridge too far for most. The rest of the failure is down to the identity freaks eating their own.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:36am
  - sooty
    
    But then Phool Goof, tried to bring down the age of consent while in parliament. Just remind us why that was?
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:02am
  - dubya
    
    A bridge too far, or an elbow?
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:52am
- tf78
  
  It’s a shame they don’t take a lesson from Georgina Beyer – she really is a great example of a gracious, unassuming, trans-gender person.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:22am
Monique Watson

Bridges is an excellent strategist in my opinion. As well as having the ear and confidence of the Board.
If he goes with ruling out dealing with Peters and campaigns on the shitty innings Ardern and her rag tag bunch of sissies have had then the NZ First vote will swing back to National.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/02/national-discusses-sinking-winston-peters-vote-at-caucus-retreat.html
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February 9, 2019 8:14am
- Happychappy
  
  Sorry Monique but yours wasn’t up when I posted mine.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:23am
- Chuck Bird
  
  Monique, I think Bridges and other senior National MPs and the board are pretty smart and will make a decision on Peters and/or NZF at a time of their choosing. The could decide to rule Peters out but not NZF.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:01am
  - septic skeptic
    
    They will not regain my vote if they do. Winston is not the worst NZF MP, that honour belongs to his good self, the bombastic blowhard and self proclaimed champion of the regions. Tracey Martin second. Winston runs third in my book.
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:34am
    - Lance
      
      That’s like ranking testicular cancer, ebola and cirrhosis in order of unpleasantness
      
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      February 9, 2019 12:07pm
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Socialism is right up there as well, it is a disease after all.
        
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        February 9, 2019 1:59pm
- madamezucchininz
  
  ….I agree entirely Monique…..I have gone from Simon Bridges….who?…..to really rating him and his long game……he is brilliant with facts…..he can run absolute rings around Ms Ed…..and I get the feeling she is running scared…..
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:55pm
Humble Capitalist

‘Fairer’ tax system. Fairer for who? Will it be fairer for middle NZ that slog their guts out to pay the mortgage and provide for the kids? Or fairer for those that have no incentive to contribute to society and just want more free stuff?
Define ‘fairer’ please for those of us that work our arses off and pay an exorbitant amount of tax already only to live a very humble lifestyle.
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February 9, 2019 8:15am
- peterwn
  
  Robin Hood pioneered ‘fairness’ in Nottinghamshire. He took from the rich to give to the poor.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:20am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    In NZ it will be from the battling middle class to the poor
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:26am
  - Paulus
    
    Robin Hood was also a myth !~
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:34am
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Big statue in Nottingham does not lie
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:40am
      - kowtow
        
        Ha , the Sheriffs’ relatives and other descendants of Norman victims of his crimes should start a “Hood Must Fall ” campaign.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:24am
      - Paulus
        
        Rubbish – just a Council feel good scene.
        
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        February 9, 2019 1:29pm
    - stigie
      
      But SLAG and JAG aren’t myths !~
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:51am
      - sooty
        
        More like evil witches!
        Some more of the coven!
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:04am
      - peterwn
        
        Sooty – Leave Macbeth out of it. Anyway Lady Macbeth was just another witch.
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:57am
  - Brian Marshall
    
    Well it’s more likely Robin was a hood, who returned from France as a soldier and turned (or continued) brigandage.
    He was probably a 12th century version of El Chapo, who giving to the poor, was actually paying them off for their silence and compliance.
    Whether he was a myth or not, the legend will have some historical basis.
    
    Today, we have our own version of Robin Hood/El Chapo. She’s robbing from the productive and giving to her peasants to keep their silence and compliance. I think I’ll call her “Robbing Resting Bitch Face”.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:13am
    - Lizziep
      
      Aww perfect name, thanks Brian
      
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      February 9, 2019 11:03am
- KevOB
  
  Perhaps we need a National Thank You Day for the Bennies to express their gratitude to the actual taxpayers.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:22am
  - waikatogirl
    
    A parade to thank the taxpayer! Oh no, we’d have to pay for that too! ?
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:39am
  - Swifty
    
    Breakfast in bed would be a good start.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:41am
    - kowtow
      
      They have to get off their couch first …….
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:21am
    - Lance
      
      You’ll lose your knighthood for saying that
      
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      February 9, 2019 12:08pm
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    February 30th is penciled in . . . .
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:41am
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Get Mike onto that. He is the “Today is international ……. day” person
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:58am
- Chris R
  
  “Fairer” for the workers and the rest of us “deplorables” would be zero income tax with only a form of consumption tax remaining. “Unfairer” could be defined as anything to do with the hate-ridden mind of Cullen.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:45am
- freethinker
  
  Here is a post from Ultra Left Stuff on CGT –
  if a man proposes to redistribute wealth, he means explicitly and necessarily that the wealth is his to distribute. If he proposes it in the name of the government, then the wealth belongs to the government; if in the name of society, then it belongs to society. No one, to my knowledge, did or could define a difference between that proposal and the basic principle of communism.
  
  Observe that any social movement which begins by “redistributing” income, ends up by distributing sacrifices.
  
  Whoever claims the “right” to “redistribute” the wealth produced by others is claiming the “right” to treat human beings as chattels.
  
  So Effectively Cullen is emulating a dictator and should Jacinda and the COLL enact legislation of this type NZ will have proof they are really COMMUNISTS.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:11am
- artemisia
  
  To be ‘fair’, all those households not currently paying net tax need to start contributing to the country.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:10am
  - marcw
    
    And to be fairer, most of those households pay 15% tax on spending nearly all of their nett income – whether it be from benefits, wages, or interest.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:16pm
Happychappy

It seems TV Three and Jennifer Lynch are still not happy with their shit stirring and lies over JLR and now have gone back to create rumours that at Nationals retreat a discussion was held to create a plan to crash Winston First vote. They say a insider from the retreat has given the information and that Bridges said that he could not trust Winston or likely work with him, so is this another of Three’s tactics to bring down Bridges or is it just to create animosity between the Leader who do not like each other.
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February 9, 2019 8:18am
- fernglas
  
  HC, I would be astonished if National hadn’t considered this possibility. I get the feeling that we don’t need journo’s to create animosity between Peters and Bridges, Ardern, and almost anyone other than the Russian Ambassador.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:29am
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    Fernglas, it is unkind of you to portray Peters as a one friend kind of guy.
    He also has lots of friends that own pretty horses, and a few that like fishing and boats.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:09am
- Jules99
  
  Bridges’ is not stupid. Either it’s a deliberate leak, or he now knows who the backstabbers are.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:32am
- Paulus
  
  Thought TV 3 left that to Tova O’Brien – after all she is very close to Ross.
  And she knows it all.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:36am
  - stigie
    
    We were told that JLR was rooting someone from the press gallery ?
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:47am
    - Inandout
      
      Not Soper surely?
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:11am
  - howitis
    
    Jami Lee Ross’s baby batter got everywhere.
    What a sticky mess 🙂
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:39am
- Prince
  
  I doubt it is a secret. Who believes you can trust Peters ?
  Hardly a scoop !
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:21am
- septic skeptic
  
  Bridges and National will go up in the estimations of most kiwis when they commit publicly to trying to flush NZF out of parliament.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:48am
- Lance
  
  And the next breathless breaking news item will be the evil National party (dirty politics) planning to get more votes than the CoL at the next election ………………………………. bastards
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:14pm
Maggie Pie

I heard him on the wireless with Larry Williams and it got me wondering –

Will Vernon Tava’s new party be the real teal?
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February 9, 2019 8:18am
- Morrissey
  
  No.
  
  Tava and Williams would be two of the less convincing characters in New Zealand. Williams is lower than pond scum….
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/01/larry-williams-attack-on-dunne-powell.html
  
  https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2018/12/irony-free-newstalkzb-do-you-see-this.html
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:11pm
Yvette

Matthew Hooton says: Divorce looms for Labour and NZ First
NZ First’s true power lies in coalition negotiations after an election – Matthew Hooton

So Winston needs to detach and disassociate himself from Labour policy – from the failed Kiwibuild: cited in the New York Times for only managing to build 47 houses – and the NYT wasn’t aware of the 60 empty houses due to be bulldozed for new roads or state housing redevelopment in Pakuranga and Mount Roskill.
Winston will need to pretend he didn’t sign the UN Compact on Migration (Oops! sorry, core NZ First voters!), nor have anything to do with the incoming capital gains tax, which Labour wants while Peters is vehemently opposed to, although such a tax is already damned by experts as not allowing sufficient time to even be properly designed.
Or the biggie: that Winston, to get his paranoid waka-jumping bill passed, horse-traded off future natural gas exploration to the hated Greens without consulting Cabinet or really … anyone else.

Winston can’t actually divorce himself from Shane’s mis-calculations with trees, because it is Shane’s pork barrel regional fund that might buy a Northland Electorate seat for New Zealand First – if Shane can get the cuzzies off their couches to vote, but Winston will soon need a pretence again of neutrality –
Winston requires both Labour and National to at least perceive that [he] is open to the best offer from either side. says Hooton.
Really, Matthew? Surely all politicians recognise policy doesn’t matter to Winston, but power and appearance do.

What is vital though is that Winston needs to convince enough voters that he can again be the impartial “king-maker” dedicated to making the best deal in the interests of New Zealand first – and forgetting the fucking failure this current coalition, chosen by him, actually is.

It was just before the last Election that juvenile Jacinda realised she was proposing a farm water tax without saying whether it would be one cent or two cents a cubic metre.
Jacinda suddenly realised she couldn’t ask people to vote for anything unknown and hastily pushed everything sideways into the working tax committee that is about to deliver a capital gains tax, bless them.
That left those people bold enough to vote for the greater unknown, to vote for Winston.
That’s those voters who gave Winston their vote, for him to decide what should be done with it.
Now that they have seen what he did with their vote, hopefully it will harder for him to pull the same stunt off again, however much he manages to divorce himself from Labour … and the Greens.

Hopefully National will stymie this dishonest divorce
Simon Bridges should tell Winston that Winston’s track record damns him
Having made his vows with Labour, Winston’s behaviour is inappropriate for a married Member of Parliament, and National will not be a future coalition partner.

Simon should burn Winston’s bridges for him.

For just one simple example of working with Winston, consider Winston’s compassion as he gloated in pointing out National could not find the mentally un-well National Member sitting opposite him.

Winston Peters – You know what? Twenty-two days later, we are still no wiser, with these major New Zealand companies [“PricewaterhouseCoopers—they’re pretty big, but it doesn’t stop there, oh no—and Simpson Grierson”] in full pursuit, and yet we formed the coalition Government in half that time—11 days—after we knew what the special votes meant. Eleven days to form a coalition; 22 days to try and find out what other people know: namely, who leaked on Mr Bridges. There are members over there that should be very nervous. I won’t look at them, or look where they should be, because if I do, then the suspicion will be cast on them without us getting the reward for disclosure. We are famous for disclosure, especially when it comes to the National Party’s sins.
… The member—that’s Mr Bridges—needs to reveal to the public who the leaker is, or I will – Hansard, 19 September 2018 – Volume 733
What an arse.

22 days later? – how long has it been since Winston’s superannuation “details” leak?
About 531 days and counting.
Suing for damages? – damages, if any, were all self-inflicted by Winston.
Filing legal actions against National on the eve of Election Day?
And Hooton thinks Winston can attain the “integrity” of impartial “king-maker” again?

Breaking news: National are discussing right now whether to dump any prospect of working with Winston, before he drops them. Would that not leave Winston for the rest of his term displaying his real colours?
Again, Simon should burn Winston’s bridges for him.
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February 9, 2019 8:18am
- KevOB
  
  Winston should retire, but he wont. His self view does not allow that. His health or electors will eventually determine his dropout.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:29am
  - Inandout
    
    Kev, Simon knows Winston’s health won’t allow another election, so that leaves Shane or Ron Mark. Though given the monstrous about turns by NZF I doubt they will feature in the next MMP election lineup.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:16am
    - MCos
      
      People have been saying stuff like that about Winston for years.
      He’s still there and Muldoon, McLay, English, Brash, Key, Clark, Goff, the two Davids plus heaps of other minor party leaders including Colin Craig ain’t.
      He’s had some right drongos in his party and nobody can quite pin him down and just when you think he’s cornered he pops up over there going in a different direction.
      One thing’s for sure. If after the next election Winston had the ability to make the Nats the government, Simon would be knocking on his door.
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:06am
      - Lance
        
        And Winston has never been voted out of parliament.. no… wait
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:16pm
- peterwn
  
  Simon should not burn bridges now since it leaves Winston in an uncertain position. He should leave this until within a few weeks of next election so that Winston and Jacinda (if still around) have to campaign on the basis that either eventuality could occur.
  As I have said previously – the overarching objective of a political party is to get into power and if in power to stay in power. So it is no surprise that National’s recent all day caucus would have this high on the agenda.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:51am
  - septic skeptic
    
    And some people wonder why there is so little trust for politicians…
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:55am
- Rachael Membery
  
  The msm can say what they like about National, if national deny it, it will be too much, if they confirm as msm guess, that will be skewed too. Tell them nothing.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:21pm
Stars And Stripes

Noticed recently how more and more government funding and participation initiatives aimed towards Maori also seems to have Pasifika people attached as though they also hold some “special” status in New Zealand which we must cater too.
Given they only arrived as immigrants in the last 40 years or so giving them special recognition over other residents of NZ seems completely wrong.
Being so called disadvantaged because you are poor and uneducated does not justify preferential treatment over others.
One might be tempted to label it racist.
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February 9, 2019 8:23am
- Rich Prick
  
  I suppose they vote Labour, that’s why they get “special” status with the funding that comes attached. It’s all about pumping in our money for votes with Labour and NZ First (they need to change their name). Most corrupt government ever.
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:32am
- Swifty
  
  They’ve even got a Minister.
  
  Don’t see a Minister for Scottish People nor Minister for Filipinos.
  
  Just why do they have their own Minister?
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:37am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  One needs to find out the reasons why a particular group is “poor and uneducated” in the first place.
  
  – They are “oppressed” by some other group
  – They are “oppressed” by members of their own group (due to their culture)
  – They are “self-oppressed” due to their culture
  – They are “opressed” by some genetic trait that renders them less competitive (on average)
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:53am
- kowtow
  
  Who let them in . Who continues to let them in.
  
  If the gubmint ( blue or red ) sees the need to spend extra money on them , then they are a burden on the taxpayer and should not be given visas.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:19am
- tf78
  
  I remember Lange’s speech when he said “bring them all in” – he did have PI blood.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:33am
The Virgin

Common National and do the right thing; kick Peters to touch and tell him to get fucked now.
47% is easily achievable, especially with the incompetent leftards currently holding the treasury benches.
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February 9, 2019 8:24am
- Longknives
  
  Winston has dropped so many steaming turds in the mouths of his voters that the Nats should easily pick up another 2-3%…
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:29am
  - Yvette
    
    If, for example, Winston will now agree with National that it was utterly bizarre to ban gas exploration without a shred of research or consultation – if he can make a judgement mistake as large as that – why would National work with such a fool?
    
    Likewise the UN Compact on Migration – getting a legal opinion so he can claim he signed something that doesn’t really mean what it says, so really isn’t totally opposite the NZ First policy people voted for.
    
    The number of Winston’s current policies that National need to reverse proves how inappropriate it would be to work with him.
    That is quite apart from the slight friction one can observe between Winston and Simon, Paula and anyone else in National.
    
    Leave Winston to lie :o) with whom he has chosen.
    Save Winston from jilting Jacinda
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:02am
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      If Winston jilts SLG where will he get his baubles?
      He has nowhere to go.
      There will not be a dissolution of the CoL before the next election.
      In the meantime National are banking campaign point after campaign point gifted by this clusterfuck coven of fools.
      
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      February 9, 2019 9:25am
      - rockape
        
        National could promise him an embassy and Knighthood if he retires soon.
        
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        February 9, 2019 12:41pm
      - david
        
        Rock ape, no-one in their right mind would promise WP anything. He could not be trusted to keep any conversation to himself and would just as likely turn it into a publis point of criticism making the offer or into a total mug.
        
        IMHO, the only way to communicate with him would be through public statements which he can,t misrepresent.
        
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        February 10, 2019 9:05am
burt

Interesting

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110470725/possible-new-bid-for-residency-as-czech-drug-smuggler-karel-sroubek-obtains-passport-in-real-identity
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February 9, 2019 8:29am
- Longknives
  
  This guy ain’t going anywhere!
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:30am
- Rich Prick
  
  Issued a passport?? Is the drug dealing, wife beating gang associate confirmed as one of us now? Good one Cindy and Iain, yet another vote secured.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:07am
  - fernglas
    
    Czech passport, or papers.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:50am
- Sofia
  
  The Czech Republic explained earlier they had not moved to extradite Sroubek because they expected New Zealand authorities to have already deported him (and seemed very surprised we hadn’t)
  
  While New Zealand Immigration is refusing to answer any questions now on grounds of legal reviews, appeals and anything else that can deflect attention – having not read reports, involved Ardern, and “inexplicably” politicised the whole mess – has the Czech Republic moved to now request extradition?
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:54am
  - Paulus
    
    Sroubek is here for years after he gets out of prison.
    He will legal aided take on everybody like the Fat German still here – years of litigation paid for by the Taxpayer.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:35pm
secondcumming

*The NZH reports*…..

‘Lizzie Marvelly and her partner were recently taunted while standing hand in hand at an intersection’

All I did was drive past and yell, “I’d pay to watch!”

Bloody snowflakes 😎

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12201606
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February 9, 2019 8:35am
- Longknives
  
  Lizzie is full of shit.
  More holes in her (rather conveniently timed) story than Swiss Cheese….
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:51am
  - secondcumming
    
    Yeah, I think you’re right there Knives….it wasn’t as though I knew who they were or anything! Just doing what we all do when you see a couple of horny looking chicks holding hands.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:15am
    - Paulus
      
      Were they not kissing with their tongues down each others throats – at a street crossing – weird ?
      Another spoof story.
      
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      February 9, 2019 1:37pm
  - lifesgood
    
    Hilarious! Well deserved for all the crap from her we have to put up with.
    
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    February 9, 2019 3:35pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Those fucking TERF’s, they ruin everything, you can’t take them anywhere.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:01am
- G152
  
  Trying to stop him running away
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:45am
- Monique Watson
  
  Lizzie Marvelley. “Our love was turned into a circus”. What a joke. Wait until you have kids.
  And instead of bitching she should try going to New Orleans for Mardi Gras or even better, Southern Decadence. I love flying over the Mississippi into Nola.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:06am
  - JibberJabber
    
    Marvelous Lizzie,
    
    ‘I’m a very private person when it comes to my personal life
    
    Except when she needs to fill some column inches with Bullshit.
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:21am
Keeping Stock

Greenpeace on Twitter yesterday:

Greenpeace NZ
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Verified account

@GreenpeaceNZ
Follow Follow @GreenpeaceNZ
More
The Tasman fire is just the beginning if we don’t slash emissions.

NZ must end fossil fuel industry subsidies, ban new thermal power, stop petrol & diesel vehicle imports, invest in clean energy:

https://www.greenpeace.org/new-zealand/press-release/nelson-fires-tip-of-the-ice-sheet-without-immediate-emissions-slash/ …

#nelsonfire #makeoilhistory #solarisenz #climatechange

https://twitter.com/GreenpeaceNZ/status/1093587171162746880

As shameful as the tweet was, it’s worth following the link to see the absolute kicking Greenpeace is getting from respondents for their blatant politicisation of the Nelson fires.

Greenpeace needs to understand that it’s February, traditionally our hottest and driest month, and a month in which fires have been a feature ever since I was a child sixty years ago. They do their cause no good whatsoever with cheap stunts like this, when people right now are in significant hardship and worry about their properties and livelihoods.
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February 9, 2019 8:55am
- kowtow
  
  I was wondering when climate change would get the blame for this , likewise with the current Queensland floods.
  
  The problem as pointed out is Nelson gets very dry in summer , if you want to avoid forest fires then don’t plant forests , or at least not near where anyone lives.or vice versa don’t have houses in said areas.
  
  Same issue in California. They ‘ve had those bush fires forever , some really huge ones in the past .But they really become a problem when humans decide to build in areas prone to bush fires. Same in Oz.
  
  But everyone wants to live in the bush , away from it all , surrounded by bird song etc
  
  Fair enough , but there are consequences and it has nothing to do with global warming.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:14am
  - Viking2
    
    Australia the same. Bay of Plenty the same. A fire up one of the roads here would go for miles at the moment. Mostly because it is grass and is very dry.
    
    And I imagine monsoon buckets are hard top find today.
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:07am
    - Rachael Membery
      
      And I think I read only hold a thousand litres?
      
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      February 9, 2019 2:34pm
- Woz
  
  Sounds lile they had just read Occasional Cortex’s New Green Deal.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:25am
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  Did fuckwits unlimited notice that the fire is causing omissions?
  We’ll need a ban, or a tax, or a ban and a tax, or a ban a tax and another cycleway.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:32am
  - Woz
    
    One half-decent volcano is enough to make fun of all our efforts at emissions reduction.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:40am
- Salacious Crumb
  
  Haha what a kicking. That made my weekend.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:36am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Greenpeace folks should learn something of NZ’s forest and fire history and perhaps contemplate the history of Fire legislation in NZ since the 1880s.
  
  Devastating Fires in man-made forests/rural landscapes have been a feature of NZ since the 1880s.
  A history of fire in the forest and rural landscape in New Zealand – Part 2, post 1830
  influences, and implications for future fire
  management
  http://nzjf.org.nz/free_issues/NZJF54_4_2010/7A80D07C-CDED-4260-AD7A-11151FCCF7D0.pdf
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:05pm
  - rockape
    
    I seem to remember the green party advocating that windfall trees should be left in the West coast to rot. Seems to me that the current fire near me was mostly caused by what was on the ground ,not living trees. Nice land, well irrigated instead of Native bush would reduce the fore hazard as would lots of dams so dry land could be irrigated!
    
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    February 9, 2019 12:37pm
    - RF
      
      Remember the fires in Aussie where the greens would not allow home owners to cut back trees around their dwellings.
      
      After the fires the greens went to ground… cowards.
      
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      February 9, 2019 2:54pm
  - namron
    
    Thanks Maggy.
    A very informative read.
    
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    February 9, 2019 2:29pm
  - stephieboy
    
    MW, their conclusions are interesting,
    
    Conclusion
    From the perspective of a twenty-first century Kiwi, what lessons emerge from our past with respect to forest and rural fires? The truisms which can be seen are:
    1. Uncontrolled forest and rural fires can, and usually do cause financial loss from the unsalvageable timber contained within burnt forests, and from the loss of the growing “capital” (live trees and other vegetation) in a burnt forest or other rural environment. These losses are quantifiable, and can be significant. Examples: Puhi Puhi Forest fire of 1880’s; Balmoral Forest fire of 1950’s
    2. Forest fires can result in significant loss of sequestered carbon, and unwanted addition to atmospheric carbon (in the form of CO2) which is a “greenhouse” gas. These losses are becoming quantifiable as methods for measuring carbon stored in plant material are developed for the government’s climate change initiative.
    
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    February 9, 2019 6:56pm
- Gravelroad
  
  My mother was born in Nelson in 1914 and she lived there most of her life. Her forebears arrived in 1853.
  All that time it was hot in summer and cold in winter.
  Sometimes there was torrential rain, sometimes droughts.
  There were/are unseasonal frosts in summer and warmth in winter.
  There were fires occasionally in town and in country. Rivers and seas caused floods from time to to time.
  The end.
  
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  February 9, 2019 6:44pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    I understand my forebears arrived in Nelson in 1842 on the Mary Ann.
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:23pm
Komata

And who is the head in GP in NZ?

A certain Norman R!

An avowed Communist, flag loser AND an Australian.

On those basis’ alone, should we be surprised at the tweet?

Noticeably, they (GP) have made no offer or effort to help the fire victims out and instead have chosen to USE them!

Says it all doesn’t it? REALLY caring!
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February 9, 2019 9:03am
- Woz
  
  An avowed Communist, loser AND an Australian.
  
  There, fixed it for you.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:41am
kowtow

I wonder if any of our “unruly” tourists were involved? Once again that good ole diversity dividend paying off.

‘An office block in a posh Regency town may be demolished after dozens of travellers broke in and stripped the entire building of metal.

More than 20 caravans were said to have moved onto the grounds of Sovereign House, in Royal Leamington Spa, Warks., last weekend.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6683027/Office-block-Royal-Leamington-Spa-faces-demolition-dozens-travellers-broke-in.html
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February 9, 2019 9:08am
- sooty
  
  Just chain the gate shut!
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:23am
  - kowtow
    
    Heavy duty bolt cutters would be standard for this lot.
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:28am
holysheet

Two Irishman are at the job centre looking for work. “So what are you trained in?” Asks the job centre rep “Well I make women’s knickers on a sewing machine and paddy here is a diesel fitter” replies Murphy “Ok” says the job centre rep “I can get work for you at £7 an hour and work for paddy at £12 an hour” “How come he earns more than me?!” asks Murphy “Because a diesel fitter is a skilled job where as a sewing machine operator isn’t” replies the rep
“What the feck are you talking about” replies Murphy “its me that does all the hard, skilled work making the knickers. He just sits there when I’m done, hold them up and says ‘yep, diesel fitter’”
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February 9, 2019 9:12am
- Morrissey
  
  Whale oil beef hooked. That was a good one.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:09am
  - Morrissey
    
    Five knuckledraggers in the house, I see.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:35pm
    - Paulus Gnome
      
      Just the one . . . .
      
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      February 9, 2019 2:14pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Actually, it’s ten, Paulus.
        
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        February 9, 2019 3:13pm
- Nermal
  
  Soon afterwards the same two Irishmen saw an advert that said “Tree Fellers, no experience required” Paddy says, “that’ll suit us”. Murphy replies “ Yeah, shame there’s only the two of us”
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:48pm
lastmanstanding

Happy 45th wedding anniversary to Mrs LMS. And she is just as bootiful as that day way back in 1974.

On another note a random question.

Why shouldn’t candidates who offer themselves for local body or general elections not be required to undertake a psyc test with the results forming part of their CV for electors to determine whether they are worthy candidates.
After all its standard practise in senior employment.

Every time Ive employed a senior manager they have required to undergo such tests to check their capability.
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February 9, 2019 9:14am
- Chuck Bird
  
  How about an IQ test? If we had that we would not have a SLG as PM.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:48am
  - thedavincimode
    
    The current PM is there in part because of morons who thought it necessary to vote for someone known at the time to be the dodgiest politician in the last 30 years just to “teach National a lesson”. If anything, there should be an IQ test for voters because only someone who was terminally thick would have voted for peters.
    
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    February 9, 2019 12:04pm
- Biscuit
  
  Best wishes to your both, LMS and Mrs LMS.
  
  Me and my better half are not far short of that anniversary together, too … except that, being rebels, we never wed.
  
  I cast a furtive eye over the latest Dollybirds in her women’s magazines and murmur ‘I’d not switch you for any of them’.
  
  I’m not ENTIRELY sure she’s not kidding when she murmurs back ‘You wouldn’t suffer too much from the steak knives I’d insert in your chest if you even TRIED that’, ha.
  
  Pray give Mrs LMS one (1) peck on the cheek from me.
  
  Just the one, mind.
  
  And, no, not THOSE cheeks…
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:51am
- Brian Marshall
  
  Congratulations to you and Mrs LMS. That’s an impressive innings.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:05am
- Keeping Stock
  
  Happy anniversary Mr and Mrs LMS. 45 years together these days is a fantastic achievement. She must have the patience of a saint 😀
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:02pm
waikatogirl

Congrats to you and Mrs LMS on 45 years. May you have many more years of happiness. Well done! ?

Interesting thought on the testing of MP’s. There is a teeny flaw in that most would not pass muster… ?
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February 9, 2019 9:19am
- lastmanstanding
  
  Thanks WG. Mind you we were very young she was 19 and I was 22 and in love. Its been a great life though growing up and growing old together. I tell the young ones provided you can find the right partner at an early age its well worth taking the plunge.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:42am
  - Viking2
    
    Not old yet. Just around the time the Golden Cheque book arrives and makes you a benny!:lol:
    Nice to have though.
    
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    February 9, 2019 10:12am
  - Monique Watson
    
    Excellent advice. Mr Watson and I met when we were twenty. Love at first sight. And it’s not that it’s not hard, it’s that despite how hard it is that we relish the thought of growing old and stubborn together.
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:28pm
Harkman

Those bloody foreign scam callers called this morning at 4:45AM on the landline. I’m so bloody tired now, and nobody’s happy with me because years ago I signed up to one of those CMC-type trading sites. Zombie day today.
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February 9, 2019 9:33am
- waikatogirl
  
  Go ‘Naked’ Harkman with cellphone only. No landline, no nuisance calls.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:52pm
  - Harkman
    
    But I need the net to chat with the likes of you ? and it only costs like $5 more for a landline.
    
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    February 9, 2019 4:20pm
fernglas

Am I the only one who thinks it is madness to spend $6,000,000,000 on Auckland light rail when driverless technology must be around the corner?
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February 9, 2019 9:39am
- Fletch
  
  Maybe one day we’ll have a MP-less Parliament….
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:27am
- auckwood
  
  regardless of whether or no driverless technology is coming or not, $6b on light rail (especially down dominion rd) is complete madness and the only thing it will do for transport of any kind in Auckland, is completely fuck it.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:27am
- marcw
  
  Even more likely and imminent is ‘rail-less’ light rail. In fact, it already exists in China. Anyone who is retarded enough to start laying rail own Dominion Road at this time, would have to be an ACC mayor or councillor, or a member of the COL.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:33pm
Dave Mann

On a point of nomenclature, I object to the term SLG as it’s not specific enough. The world has many SLGs, but only one SLAG. Silly Little Ardern Girl.
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February 9, 2019 10:06am
- Tall Man
  
  ardern is a liar.
  
  Incorporate that.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:25pm
Than

From an article on Stuff;

Labour wanted to be able to say, in effect, “it’s what the experts recommend”.

Oh, please. It’s not exactly hard to find people willing to take money to tell you what you want to hear.

Labour picked the “experts” it wanted for the Tax Working Group, and the group will give exactly the right answer they were paid to give.
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February 9, 2019 10:08am
EAD_THREE

LOL.

“Dear fellow white people”

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheEuropeanMan1/status/1093843061975797761
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February 9, 2019 10:14am
Fletch

Looks like NZ is missing from the maps IKEA sell….lol

http://fortune.com/2019/02/08/ikea-map-omits-new-zealand/
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February 9, 2019 10:15am
- kowtow
  
  The Indian illegal immigrants will find it harder to get here.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:28am
- Dave Mann
  
  Obviously there’s no ‘New Zealand’ on Ikea’s map because there isn’t actually a country called ‘New Zealand’ anymore. There’s a country called Aotearoa somewhere, but the location is a little hard to place exactly, so it’s better to play it safe and just ignore it for the time being.
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:49am
  - greybeard
    
    I notice the NZ womens’ cricket team had “ANZ Aotearoa” on their uniforms but no mention of “NZ” or “New Zealand”.
    What the hell is going on ?
    
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    February 9, 2019 12:52pm
    - Paulus
      
      Wake Up – the media will tell you what is going on !
      We are being emancipated by them to realise that 15% of the population get everything they want so sod off the rest of you.
      
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      February 9, 2019 1:43pm
    - RF
      
      Must be confusing for tourists looking for a cop.
      
      Pirihimana on the side of a colourful car with lights means nothing to them.
      
      Stupid move by the Commissioner pandering to Maori. Is this the first step to having a separate Tribal Police.
      
      Did he consult Ardern about this or has he gone rogue again.
      
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      February 9, 2019 3:10pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And you continually pour scorn on the only currenalternative to the madness we have.
    
    I just don’t get it.
    
    You can’t spend your life sitting on the fence spitting on both sides.
    
    Get off your arse and get behind Simon, until he is replaced or elected.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:24pm
kowtow

You have to wonder about who really runs the country when contempt for the law and normal decent behaviour is so pervasive , paraded even.

‘Police have slammed the actions of a group of patched gang members who rode their motorcycles the wrong way up a one-way street in Dunedin on Thursday evening.’

And it wasn’t any old street , it’s State Highway One . And ‘slamming’ isn’t good enough , action speaks louder than words.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/gang-members%E2%80%99-motorcycle-antics-slammed

Meanwhile in the big house , who rules the roost?

‘Prisoners and guards are living in fear of gang violence and random attacks at Otago’s prison, and it is only a matter of time before someone is seriously injured or killed, says a man who works at the facility.’

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/many-fear-milburn-prison
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February 9, 2019 10:26am
- Viking2
  
  Past time for ankle chains and hand cuffs. Standard equipment oversea’s.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:19am
Morrissey

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
GROPERS
No. 70: Bryan Singer

The British Academy of Film and Television Arts has removed Bryan Singer’s name from Bohemian Rhapsody‘s outstanding British film nomination. BAFTA cited “recent very serious allegations” of sexual misconduct against the director as the reason for his removal. ….”BAFTA considers the alleged behaviour completely unacceptable and incompatible with its values,” the academy wrote in a statement Wednesday, four days before its award ceremony.
BAFTA’s decision comes almost two weeks after GLAAD deemed the Queen biopic ineligible for its outstanding film category in response to the allegations against Singer that were published last month by The Atlantic.

The roughly 9,000-word article detailed graphic accounts of four people who said Singer sexually assaulted them when they were underage. Singer denied the allegations and responded at the time with a statement that called the article a “homophobic smear piece,” an assertion the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation called out in announcing the film’s ineligibility. …

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/110428082/bohemian-rhapsody-bafta-drops-bryan-singer-nomination-amid-misconduct-allegation

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/feb/07/bafta-removes-bryan-singer-from-awards-citation-bohemian-rhapsody

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

69* more Gropers HERE…

https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/02/gropers-no-70-bryan-singer-feb-9-2019.html

* Settle down, Cap’n.
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February 9, 2019 10:27am
- pentwig
  
  moronic
  do you have stoopidthing listed in your pathetic list?
  if not why not?
  it is self confessed
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:43am
  - Morrissey
    
    You mean this bloke?
    
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COyv96HWsAAxx5z.jpg
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:07am
    - pentwig
      
      yep!
      
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      February 9, 2019 11:40am
    - All_on_Red
      
      PERVWATCH
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      Today we look at one of Kiwiblogs Biggest Creeps.
      Yes, it’s STEPHIEBOY
      This sleezy creep has had Strikes for linking to porn sites on KB.
      ‘19,565 COMMENTS
      stephieboy
      Yesterday I was at the Robert Harris cafe St Lukes Megacentre , Mt Albert enjoying a cappuccino. I noticed next door three Muslim women enjoying their lattes with their children . Two of these honeypots .were wearing their Nijabs with stylish jeans and blouses . The other in more typical kiwi informal attire?
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      ‘Honeypots’!!!
      And this;
      Jack 5, recently i was at St Luke’s shopping mall and I saw a Muslim lady dressed in traditional apparel accompanied by her two beautiful young daughters dressed in modern western tight jeans and blouses , revealing lovely supple body proportions , including small but ample breasts .
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      PERVWATCH is brought to you as a public service to out the creeps amongst us.
      Stephieboy is Perv #1
      
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      February 9, 2019 1:27pm
      - Morrissey
        
        Oh hey, now that’s top quality work right there, Red! You’re hired.
        
        Sincerely,
        
        J.A. Napes
        C.E.O., Daisycutter Sports Inc.
        
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        February 10, 2019 8:16pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Turdcutter old boy, you`ve just gotta stop posting your Grindr date wish list.
  It`s all getting a tad tedious, maybe your chums over at the Strandard like to thrashwank over it, here we like to keep our Peccadilloes to ourselves.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:29am
  - Morrissey
    
    Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
    …here we like to keep our Peccadilloes to ourselves.
    
    I’ll believe you, JobberJubber, when I see that the daily hate fest about Clarke Gayford’s imaginary crimes has ceased on this site.
    
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    February 9, 2019 11:46am
    - graham
      
      “Clarke Gayford’s imaginary crimes”
      
      Oh, would they be the same as Bryan Singer’s alleged crimes?
      
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      February 9, 2019 3:41pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No, they’re more like Julian Assange’s imaginary crimes. In other words, they don’t exist at all.
        
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        February 10, 2019 8:17pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Daisycutter Sports Inc. is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Breen Enterprises Ltd., purveyors of fuckwittery to the world.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:48am
auckwood

proof it doesn’t matter where you are, all councils are retarded…..

“Marlborough Roads journey manager Steve Murrin said the council agreed to trial the speed bump to help bring cyclists and motorists to the same speed.

The council found a recent switch in priorities, made in September, was tempting motorists to exceed the 30kmh speed limit along Beaver Rd, putting cyclists at risk.”

I know common sense is a tree that doesn’t grow in every garden, but seriously… Most urban roads have a speed limit (or target, as the max speed determined safe to travel at) of 50-60km/h, why should motorists be forced to slow down to a crawl to match cyclists speeds? (especially now they have their own fancy schmancy cycleway separated from the actual road…?!?)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/110386370/cars-bounce-clean-off-new-hardtosee-speed-bump
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February 9, 2019 10:33am
- Gravelroad
  
  Actually Marlborough Roads is a fairly robust and efficient outfit.
  Only problem is (in common with most other local body councils) it is in the thrall of the cycling lobby.
  One must dare not upset the cyclists. They must be listened to and preferably worshipped as the enlightened ones.
  Ordinary rate paying citizens who want to drive round the streets and maybe park their cars outside their houses or businesses are living in the dark ages.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:23pm
Fletch

National Review getting to the nub of the green ideology –

The Left really has only one idea: control. At the end of the Cold War, when socialism stood discredited and the memory of its atrocities and repression were fresh in the minds of people who had just watched the dismantling of the Berlin Wall and much of what it stood for, the partisans of central planning found themselves in need of a new host, and what they found was the environmental movement — another vehicle for supplanting liberalism and free markets with five-year plans and political discipline. Hence the joke about “watermelons,” the new lefty activists who were green on the outside but red on the inside. The metaphor may occasion some eye-rolling and is prone to abuse, but it speaks to an undeniable truth: Environmentalism has been since the fall of the Soviet Union the world’s most important vessel for anti-liberal and anti-market forces.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/green-new-deal-left-has-only-one-idea-control/
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February 9, 2019 10:36am
Happychappy

JLR has opened up his new year with a shot at Simon Bridges that whale blubber has called a burn that Simon won’t be able to reply to as he is and has said the best way forward is to ignore JLR. The message to Simon was after he had criticized a announcement of Health Minister David Clark.
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February 9, 2019 11:15am
- Happychappy
  
  JLR’s message read are you sure your the right person to be criticizing others on the topic of Mental Health.
  
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  February 9, 2019 11:23am
  - Tall Man
    
    Se dumb and mentally ill.
    
    That’s a surprise…….
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:19pm
- Keeping Stock
  
  This comment exchange on the WO post gets right to the nub of the issue:
  
  MacDoctor • 2 hours ago
  Ross should just butt out. He is not helping anyone, including himself. Every time he opens his mouth or tweets like this, he reminds the world he has mental health issues and why Bridges was right to turf him.
  
  Souvlaki – MacDoctor • 2 hours ago
  Yes . As you well know from your occupation, Personalty disorders are essentially “incurable”. Whatever happens, his Narcissism will remain .
  
  MacDoctor – Souvlaki • an hour ago
  Pretty much all mental health issues are “incurable”. You just have to manage them as best as able. Personality disorders, in particular, require the person to gain insight into their problems in order to manage them. They are not amenable to drug therapy and very resistant to psychotherapy.
  
  Souvlaki – MacDoctor • an hour ago
  Indeed, and “insight” is not something that JLR or his “advisors” demonstrably possess !
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:13pm
- MrTips
  
  Judging by the sequence here, it looks like Cam Slater knew JLR was going to tweet and jumped right in: https://mobile.twitter.com/jamileeross/status/1093989265438982145
  
  JLR is nothing but a deluded puppet in this for schoolyard mentality “advisors”.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:20pm
  - Sofia
    
    About three weeks ago on his own Facebook page, Jami-Lee Ross posted a rather lengthy explanation headlined: Leaving bitterness and hatred behind
    
    But Ross appears not yet capable of abandoning his bitterness and hate, which may mean his supposed mental-health recovery is a little shallow, pre-mature and still mis-directed.
    
    After the National leader called the Government’s mental health inquiry response plans a “shameful farce”, the Botany MP lashed out with a brutal takedown (Newshub’s enthusiastic description) – “Are you sure you’re the right person to be criticising others on the topic of mental health?”
    
    Jami-Lee Ross could do better to still keep his mouth shout for a while, and Newshub could be better employed informing the public of the convolutions between Jami-Lee Ross, Simon Lusk, Cameron Slater, New Zealand First and Winston Peters
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:33pm
    - Gravelroad
      
      Jami Lee Ross is a very dangerous man.
      Now that he is using mental health issues to enhance his political career shows he has no integrity.
      
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      February 9, 2019 2:10pm
    - JibberJabber
      
      Both Ross and Slater have weaponised their “alleged” mental health issues.
      So yeah, fuck them.
      
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      February 9, 2019 2:19pm
      - lifesgood
        
        The concerning thing about that twitter feed is the number of people backing JLR. Are they as insane as he is? This country must be riddled with insane narcissists!
        
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        February 9, 2019 3:47pm
  - Paulus
    
    You should go one of his top adviser’s from the Press Gallery.
    She knows where everything is kept.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:47pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Cam Slater? I thought he was MIA?
    
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    February 9, 2019 3:37pm
    - lifesgood
      
      Yes, massive stroke and addled thought processes. So quite possible that it was him.
      
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      February 9, 2019 3:48pm
    - MrTips
      
      He’s recovering, not incapacitated, I assume
      
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      February 9, 2019 4:22pm
- brett68
  
  Surprised Bridges or any National Mp hasn’t blocked him on facebook and twitter.
  
  If you’re not going to waka jump him at least remove any sort of platform he can use to attack National.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:32pm
- MCos
  
  Judging by these comments Jamie-Lee Ross knows how to get under people’s skin still.
  Not bad for a bloke who should have been dead and buried, politically, months ago.
  Party discipline and firm conservative management has always been a hallmark of the Nats, unlike the constant Labour Party train wrecks, but the JLR saga hasn’t quite run out of steam yet.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:35pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    Saga? Yeah nah, this kind of infantile social media wank only gets the simpleton lefties like you all atwitter, adults just ignore the attention whores.
    
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    February 9, 2019 2:54pm
- RiP NZ
  
  JLR is a lying piece of sht. He fked his career so badly he played the mental health card.
  Recovering from a serious MH episode you are reflective, quiet, observant. Its a re-build and a re-examination of your life and direction. Introspective and humble, not the carry on from this cnt.
  Deserves to be out of politics.
  
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  February 9, 2019 6:11pm
Northward

Swiss balderdash
If there was anything positive for me last week, it’s that I managed to miss the World Economic Forum completely.

In Davos, Switzerland — coincidentally just around the corner from where my grandfather lived in Geneva — the world’s elite came together to clink glasses and eat fondue…under the pretense of bringing the world’s most pressing issues to light.

This year, the topic was ‘Globalization 4.0: Shaping a New Architecture in the Age of the Fourth Industrial Revolution’

In attendance were about 2,500 well-established academics, wealthy businesspeople, powerful politicians, and famous celebrities.

Nassim Taleb, the guy who came up with the black-swan idea, nailed it when he told Bloomberg that World Economic Forum is really ‘chasing successful people who want to be seen with other successful people. That’s the game.’

Fun fact: each attendee pays over US$600,000 to attend.

Worth the money?

Not a chance.

You see, the idea behind the forum is something you can probably get behind — gather all the world’s big decision-makers together to make positive changes for humankind.

But, unfortunately, there’s lots of talking about big changes…and not so much implementing those big changes. Rather, as Taleb described, it’s more of a pissing contest for the rich and powerful.
We need to know more about the costs of this piss up to NZ Tax payers.
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February 9, 2019 11:35am
- Paulus
  
  Davos love the mugs money every year.
  Clever Swiss.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:48pm
  - Rachael Membery
    
    Did we get a souvenir mug?
    
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    February 9, 2019 3:45pm
    - Shaun the Sheep
      
      Yes, she flew back to NZ right after.
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:48pm
Manolo

Everything indicates Labour is about to campaign in 2020 on a new capital gains tax (CGT) that could potentially hit most of productive NZ.

It would be crazy to give the incompetent and greedy socialists a second term in office, wouldn’t it?
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February 9, 2019 11:38am
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Not only would it be crazy but it would be totally irresponsible and verging on treasonous.
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:34pm
  - Tall Man
    
    The gump’s and marquesses of this world see an advantage for themselves..they are wrong.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:14pm
  - Morrissey
    
    “Treasonous”?
    
    Big word, Cap’n. Don’t think you know what it means.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:17pm
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      I most certainly do, you idiot.
      
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      February 9, 2019 5:17pm
      - Morrissey
        
        No, Cap’n, you don’t.
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:59pm
- Tall Man
  
  Ask psycho and gump. They seem keen to have a bit of our wealth diverted their way.
  
  Shows their lack of intelligence. They will receive a pittance and the bureaucracy will swallow the rest as another round of labour voter creation begins.
  
  We need less tax, less interference in our lives and businesses, not more.
  
  We need a refocus on education and health, not welfare.
  
  Not going to happen until we have a leader with full focus on NZ, not a future esewhere.
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:06pm
  - stephieboy
    
    Tall Man,
    
    “We need less tax, less interference in our lives and businesses, not more.”
    
    Your other drivel aside the practical political means of bringing this about?
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:16pm
    - stigie
      
      “We need less tax, less interference in our lives and businesses, not more.”
      
      You find something wrong with this Stiffy or are you pissed off your goat didn’t put out this morning..?
      
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      February 9, 2019 1:27pm
      - Johnboy
        
        He’s just not attractive enough stigie. I’ve never had a blond refuse me after a decent feed of fresh grass! 🙂
        
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        February 9, 2019 2:58pm
    - Tall Man
      
      “bringing this about”
      
      Two ticks “Blue” fuckwit.
      
      Thanks for the opportunity to respond..
      
      ardern is a liar
      
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      February 10, 2019 9:45am
- Wired-one
  
  Labour will be pushing this cannabis referendum as much as possible to divert attention away from the CGT. Not only that but because of this idiotic referendum, Labours turnout should be higher than normal.
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:57pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/khamenei-death-america-aimed-leaders-population-190208141721318.html

More like death to all non-Muslims.
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February 9, 2019 11:57am
- Inandout
  
  Like that creature AOC.
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:12pm
  - MCos
    
    She seems to have a few people rattled.
    
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    February 9, 2019 2:41pm
Inandout

I paid $3.80 for Labour Party manifesto DomPost with front page about ‘climate change’ and glaciers ‘calving’. They are obliged to print this bullshit of course. Scott’s cartoon amazingly wasn’t on Trump but instead on Brian Tamaki. I buy Saturday’s edition solely for the crossword because it is on the back page. The paper is useful for packing and lighting fires.
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February 9, 2019 12:10pm
- MCos
  
  “I buy Saturday’s edition solely for the crossword”
  
  Across
  1. One thing only.
  
  Answer: Solely
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:41pm
  - Inandout
    
    Down
    3. A tree dwelling nut case.
    
    Answer: MCos.
    
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    February 9, 2019 5:56pm
rockape

Hasn’t Pike river gone quiet, I thought Little would have it in the news as all must be going so well or do I have that wrong?
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February 9, 2019 12:31pm
- kowtow
  
  Hoping you’re OK with that fire ?
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:46pm
- Paulus
  
  Going in this week to the drift if I remember the dates set – the 11th February 2019
  Little and Peters are in training !
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:51pm
- KevOB
  
  You have it right: the Police have chickened out, others will be concerned too as to what their fate might be.
  
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  February 9, 2019 4:00pm
Chuck Bird

I just answered a political survey. I do not know who it is for.

I was asked who I voted for to which I said NZF. I was then asked who I would vote for if an election was held tomorrow to which I answered National. If this was done for NZF or Labour they will be worried. I suspect it was for Labour as they just asked my view of Bridges and Ardern.

I was asked why I did not like Ardern and my first response was that she is a communist. I then added she has personal friends that are criminals. I named Sweeny the convicted fraudster and Richie Hardcore. Maybe I should not have mentioned Hardcore as he has not been convicted of anything.

I missed out saying she is a pathological liar.

I am sure there will be more like me and NZF will be around 3% in early 2020.
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February 9, 2019 12:43pm
- thedavincimode
  
  Good for you chuckie. Does this mean that National has learned its lesson?
  
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  February 9, 2019 12:59pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Would you have prefered Winston when with National? There no way National could have got enough votes with just ACT. If somehow they did manage then 4 terms would be the limit. They could govern now for another 3.
    
    Like National MPs and party members I speak to they know to make progress one has to look forward not behind. What are you doing to get National elected?
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:15pm
    - Classic Liberal
      
      “What are you doing to get National elected?”
      
      Telling older people to inform their kids/grandkids what cgt will mean as an inheritance tax.
      
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      February 9, 2019 3:20pm
- oob
  
  Was the call to your landline or your cellphone, chap?
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:19pm
  - Chuck Bird
    
    To my mobile.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:27pm
  - MCos
    
    Neither.
    It was a couple of blokes with English accents who knocked on the door & are now painting his roof for five grand.
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:30pm
    - MrTips
      
      Who voted that down? It was bloody funny and current.
      
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      February 9, 2019 4:23pm
- toby1845
  
  Well done Chuck – and no harm in mentioning Richie Hardcore. After all, it would have been a confidential survey, right? Any company that passed your comments on to Richie Hardcore or anyone else would soon find themselves losing clients.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:47pm
- Longknives
  
  ” I named Sweeny the convicted fraudster and Richie Hardcore. Maybe I should not have mentioned Hardcore as he has not been convicted of anything.”
  
  You know that how?
  
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  February 9, 2019 6:05pm
secondcumming

HOLY MOTHER!!
The one standing next to Simon is a bit of a *COUGAR* 😎

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dy021fyU8AA6Zcb.jpg
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February 9, 2019 1:05pm
- stephieboy
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Are Grandmas the kind of thing that turns you on?
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:18pm
  - secondcumming
    
    As you know steph, some people say the same thing about *old fiddles*
    as they say about old goats 😎
    
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    February 9, 2019 1:31pm
  - JibberJabber
    
    Heh, don`t hate them cos` they don`t have hooves, Stiffy
    
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    February 9, 2019 2:09pm
- stigie
  
  She’s not that bad at all sc, at least she’s not a boiler !~
  
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  February 9, 2019 1:32pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Jeepers, we`ve got our own Paulinha, almost…
  repost ?
  https://www.rt.com/news/450799-paulinha-outfit-brazil-controversy/
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:06pm
- waikatogirl
  
  Julie Bishop with Simon and Paula. She doesn’t rate Cindy. ?
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:39pm
- Classic Liberal
  
  I appreciate people who make an effort to keep their figures and their looks. Good on her.
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:22pm
- lifesgood
  
  Paula Bennett looks stunning!
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:51pm
Wired-one

I see JLR is again criticizing Bridges, this time it’s about a tweet Bridges sent to David Clark about the mental health fiasco. JLR needs to go, this guy is a noose around Nationals neck and frankly a traitor to the greater cause.
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February 9, 2019 2:20pm
- brett68
  
  He’s such a mental cot case narcissist he’s convinced himself that he’s the victim.
  
  There’s no dealing with guy.
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:28pm
Morrissey

Hopeless.

What sort of political party harbours such incompetents as Barbara Kuriger?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/72120447/null
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February 9, 2019 2:40pm
- Johnboy
  
  Morris old chap. What sort of political party harbours such incompetents as Phil (The Builder) Twyford? 🙂 🙂
  
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  February 9, 2019 2:50pm
- JibberJabber
  
  LoL, is David” I want to be a Woman” Cuntliffe trying to be relevant again?
  
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  February 9, 2019 3:18pm
  - Keeping Stock
    
    The story is from 2015. As usual, Morrissey is years behind everyone else, but that won’t stop him flinging shit around in the hope that some sticks.
    
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    February 9, 2019 6:20pm
Johnboy

Oh look at this:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/110465669/invercargill-licensing-trust-is-two-bars-down-but-boss-says-no-financial-hit-instore
Makes you realise why the Inverbreeds think Shadders is the bestest little Mayor who doesn’t care where! 🙂
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February 9, 2019 2:47pm
Viking2

Six Wanaka KiwiBuild houses on open market.

KiwiBuild homes that did not sell in the ballot in Wanaka are now being offered to the public.

It was reported in November that three of the 10 offered for sale in the Northlake development had gone to buyers drawn from the KiwiBuild ballot.

But now six finished properties are listed for sale. Although buyers will not have to go through a ballot to purchase them, they still must meet KiwiBuild purchase criteria.

The four three-bedroom homes are priced at $635,000 to $645,000 and two two-bedroom homes are selling for between $565,000 and $575,000.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110468062/six-wanaka-kiwibuild-houses-on-open-market?cid=facebook.post.110468062&fbclid=IwAR3iD6Ok9TTijgJ76E-GwW9Sm_PH3-pxNduwFeRk5DtfawlDeO9Hj_Qpc94

Desperate to fail.
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February 9, 2019 4:09pm
Steve (North Shore)

So I’m at the Chinese Korean New Year Festival today at Northcote Town Center. Wearing a MAGA hat and a Trump 2020 tee shirt. Dan Bidois spys me and comes over for a chat. He wants a photo of me with a friend of his (who is a Nat but hates Trump) We do it. Later another guy asks me if he can borrow my MAGA hat and put it on this mate who is the same Trump disliker. Well this guy was having no MAGA hat. I get my hat back and the guy is pissing himself laughing. I said just stand back with the phone and I will stand next to him. He did get some snaps. Funny as fuck
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February 9, 2019 4:20pm
- stephieboy
  
  “Funny as fuck”
  
  Really?
  
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  February 9, 2019 7:00pm
  - pentwig
    
    stoopidthing
    yep really!
    but you alt lefties have no sense humour
    the only comical thing for you to laugh at is the silly little girl. obviously that is wearing thin
    have you found a funny goat?
    
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    February 9, 2019 7:22pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      There’s no such thing as the alt-left.
      
      The alt-right is a thing however; consisting of angry white wrinklies, hood wearing racists, dangerous gun nuts, and pimply unlovable disciples of Joran Peterson.
      
      In short, the average Kiwiblog commenter.?
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:07pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Must be hard trying to stick to your side when every day the glitter just falls off the turd this Govt and Ardern is and the joke is exposed as being utterly useless
        Poor Meathead
        Funny for the rest of us though!
        Hahahahaha
        
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        February 9, 2019 10:13pm
Prince

Big news on the NZ Mental Health front today.
JLR has a spiteful tweet about Simon Bridges.
Twitter is running hot, as is Stuff.

…Oh yes, and the working group the COL set up splits into nine more groups. Troughs for all. Results for none.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/382083/mental-health-working-group-replacement-criticised
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February 9, 2019 4:22pm
- Monique Watson
  
  Oh fuck. One working group replaced by nine. Way to dine out on the Taxpayer’s, troughers.
  
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  February 9, 2019 4:42pm
  - Steve (North Shore)
    
    Create 9 Leaders who will create Leaders who will create new Leaders. Now I got it
    
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    February 9, 2019 6:19pm
Monique Watson

JLR is a obviously taking time from raking his desktop zen garden to deflect the MSM from asking him if his wife will trust him to keep his hands to himself in Parliament with his latest comments around mental health.
Oh the ignominy of having to cool your heels in Bowen House while waiting out the remainder of his teeny tiny little Parliamentary Career.
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February 9, 2019 4:34pm
sbk

Gee,i hope so.Even Labour voters(those that work,invest and save….and there are quite a few) feel nervous about this.I predict they will stay at home en masse or vote National come election day,if Labour does campaign on this issue.
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February 9, 2019 4:44pm
KH

Jamie Lee Ross should stop playing the mental health card. He’s giving mentally ill folk a bad name.
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February 9, 2019 4:51pm
- Happychappy
  
  Not a word from Tova after accusing Simon of these, same sort of comments, and the media have showed their ignorance again by publishing the story slamming Simon.
  
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  February 9, 2019 5:34pm
- Nookin
  
  Do you think? I am inclined to the view that he is giving devious, manipulative, narcissistic but otherwise quite sane people a bad name.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:35pm
sbk

oops,sorry …not sure what happened, but i thought i was replying to a comment from Manolo @ 11..38am
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February 9, 2019 4:57pm
Viking2

A refugee-led NGO is unhappy the government chose not to consult them on the new resettlement areas, which they say could be detrimental to refugees settling into life in New Zealand.

The ChangeMakers Resettlement Forum believes Whanganui, Timaru, Blenheim, Masterton, Levin and Christchurch might not have the support network or relevant jobs for the refugees who arrive in New Zealand.

The ChangeMakers Resettlement Forum general manager Lexy Seedhouse said many refugees who come into the country are highly qualified.

https://www.newsie.co.nz/news/140620-refugee-group-unhappy-new-settlement-location.html?fbclid=IwAR0W-ejvQaB-h-UBcUeuwbs0wxxvCSf5XYOSR6eIEtGwuw4PhYHDzDL_AR4

Apparently they think they should tell us where they want to settle.
Go away is the nice way of putting ans answer.
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February 9, 2019 5:41pm
- nasska
  
  …..”many refugees who come into the country are highly qualified”…..
  
  The qualifications needed to recite the Quran, chapter & verse from memory, are not necessarily a positive feature of a CV in a refugee’s new country.
  
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  February 9, 2019 6:09pm
- simpleton1
  
  ChangeMakers Resettlement Forum, a Non Government Organisation NGO.
  Well it seeks donations.
  Agrees with UNHCR.
  Seems like communities are supposed to be their own communities.
  
  Some sponsors.
  Todd Foundation logo
  MBIE logo
  Immigration NZ logo
  Good Shepherd logo
  Lottery Grants Board logo
  WCC logo
  COGs logo
  https://crf.org.nz/our-supporters-0
  
  Is there a surveyor, electrician, carpenter, plumber, painter, tiler, plasterer, etc.. then kiwibuild might get a few more house built. 🙂
  
  For the unskilled, then Shane Jones needs help with clearing ground then planting trees. 🙂
  Right now some fruit picking is available. 🙂
  
  Group work on these jobs should be good. 🙂
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:50pm
Hugh Pavletich

Six Wanaka KiwiBuild houses on open market | Stuff.co.nz

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110468062/six-wanaka-kiwibuild-houses-on-open-market

KiwiBuild homes that did not sell in the ballot in Wanaka are now being offered to the public. … read more via hyperlink above …
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New Zealand Vowed 100,000 New Homes to Ease Crunch. So Far It Has Built 47. – The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/world/asia/new-zealand-housing-prices.html
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… Why is the New Zealand government repeating the mistakes of history … essential viewing …

Inquiry. The Great British Housing Disaster (Adam Curtis, 1984) BBC – YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch5VorymiL4

… Just ALLOW affordable new housing to be built … with land supply and proper debt financing of infrastructure … and spare us the infantile bureaucratic rubbish …
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February 9, 2019 6:42pm
- Muttonbird
  
  Read the article again Hugh of the New York Times.
  
  Those recently completed houses are not on the open market. Kiwibuild eligibility criteria still applies.
  
  I’m surprised a housing commenter as erudite as yourself would fall for a sub-ed headline such as that.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:27pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    … The New Zealand Listener … latest Editorial …
    
    The KiwiBuild failure should galvanise urgent action on NZ’s housing disaster – EDITORIAL – The Listener
    
    https://www.noted.co.nz/currently/politics/kiwibuild-failure-galvanise-action-nz-housing-disaster/
    
    When a nation’s flagship housing policy is such a spectacular failure that it makes the New York Times, the minister in charge cannot avoid the international embarrassment. …
    
    … Many of the obstacles New Zealanders have faced in trying to build their own homes – in particular, the cost of land, labour and materials – are largely outside the control of developers, regardless of ownership, and even of scale….
    
    … concluding …
    
    … The recent Demographia International Report, which compares median house prices in seven wealthy countries plus Hong Kong, reports that in Australia housing has become more affordable over the past year as prices fell due to tightening credit. Yet, alarmingly, New Zealand housing has simply become more unaffordable since this Government took office. Property here is now further out of reach than in the US, Australia and the UK. This is beyond embarrassment. This is a national disaster.
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    Demographia In The News
    
    https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=demographia&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjmsMHFuqjgAhVFVH0KHb2QDy8Q_AUIDigB&biw=850&bih=421
    
    Hugh Pavletich In The News
    
    https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=hugh+pavletich&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXoKP8uqjgAhUXbysKHbMaBKcQ_AUIDigB&biw=542&bih=482
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:59pm
    - Muttonbird
      
      Hugh. Thank you for the self promotion pieces, but you haven’t apologised for and retraced the statement you made that the Wanaka houses were now on the open market.
      
      They are not on the open market and I would have thought you, as a respected commentator on housing, might take the time to acknowledge your mistake.
      
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      February 9, 2019 11:18pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Muttonbird … I suspect you are the builder / developer of this. Read the article again.
        
        Please comment under your real name.
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        … New Zealand: A government in crisis …
        
        After Davos, a reality check for Jacinda Ardern | Tracy Watkins – OPINION | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/110316253/after-davos-a-reality-check-for-jacinda-ardern
        
        … extract …
        
        … Fixing KiwiBuild, meanwhile, is going to require more than tweaking. It should have been obvious to all that the policy is too big to fail – yet on the evidence so far, that is the road it is headed down.
        
        There are now serious questions within her Government over whether the policy is still fit for purpose. There are even more serious questions about whether Housing Minister Phil Twyford is the person who can fix it.
        
        Some immediate tweaks will help. It seems that only now are the scheme’s architects planning on surveying the tens of thousands of people who registered for KiwiBuild to find out what they want. The big question is why that never happened in the first place.
        
        But more fundamental changes, like tossing more sweeteners at developers, are fraught. The Labour grassroots are already antsy that the programme delivers to middle New Zealand, and not the poorest Kiwis. Lining the pockets of property developers will hardly mollify them.
        
        Twyford, like some of Ardern’s other underperforming ministers, is on notice. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Stacey Kirk: KiwiBuild noose tightens; Labour’s flagship policy is a dead duck | Opinion | | Stuff.co.nz
        
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110100092/stacey-kirk-kiwibuild-noose-tightens-labours-flagship-policy-is-a-dead-duck
        
        OPINION: When project deadlines start blowing out, its only ever downhill from there.
        
        Longer delays, greater costs, more corners being cut to try and get it back on track.
        
        KiwiBuild was never going to be able to reach the milestones the Government had set – not without significant reform of the Resource Management Act. And yet, it could prove to be the most unforgiving policy to get wrong. … read more via hyperlink above …
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        Kiwibuild makes the NY Times – Kiwiblog
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2019/02/kiwibuild_makes_the_ny_times.html
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        I’m in Awe of How Fast the Housing Markets in Sydney & Melbourne Come Unglued | Wolf Street
        
        https://wolfstreet.com/2019/02/01/im-in-awe-of-how-fast-the-housing-markets-in-sydney-melbourne-come-unglued/
        
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        February 10, 2019 7:40am
Kiwi_in_Paris

Pooing 1984 style:

https://www.abacusnews.com/digital-life/chinas-public-toilets-have-facial-recognition-now-thanks-xi-jinping/article/3000331
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February 9, 2019 6:53pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Coming soon to NZ, courtesy of our political parties in hock to the Chinese communist party.
  
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  February 9, 2019 7:18pm
  - nasska
    
    If they bring arse recognition spyware to our public toilets my haemorrhoids will set the revolution back a hundred years! 🙂
    
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    February 9, 2019 7:35pm
    - Nostradamus
      
      Nasska:
      
      It’s one step from face recognition to arse recognition. Hopefully we won’t ever see livefeed from a spycam in the Hagley Park toilets!
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:16pm
    - stephieboy
      
      nasska, tip. Be careful and hide your KY Jelly!
      
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      February 9, 2019 8:26pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        You’re not getting any are you Stephie
        Hardly a surprise.
        We’ve seen your photo on your Facebook page!(which you left open dumbass- lol)
        
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        February 9, 2019 9:30pm
nasska

You could be right Nostra. I feel that D4J’s efforts to emulate Goatse Man would prove to be less than aesthetic! 🙂
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February 9, 2019 8:22pm
Nostradamus

Winston Peters pushes strongly against Australian deportation of NZers

Australia deporting people to New Zealand with little or no connection to this country is illogical, unfair, and in some cases indefensible, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says. And he says that Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne, with whom he just had a bilateral meeting, will raise the issue with the highest levels of power in Australia, including Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

Australia has a federal election coming up. This is hardly going to be an issue at the forefront of Scott Morrison’s mind.

The issue is likely to be revisited when Morrison meets Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who has also raised this matter, later this month.

I guess Jacinda will repeat her request – more forcefully than last time – for Scott to let us take some of the Manus Island refugees.
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February 9, 2019 8:33pm
- vincent van gogh
  
  What would be more useful is if he explicitly told the refugee representative group that they don’t make the rules on where their members settle or what tax payer funded remuneration they get. If they don’t like Timaru, or Whanganui, or Palmerston North or Invercargill etc they had better have a pretty good reason to tell the locals of those cities why they are not good enough for desperate refugees.. FFS! And we provide airspace and media slots to these oxygen thief’s!
  
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  February 9, 2019 10:20pm
Nostradamus

Rt Hon Helen Clark Announced As ZEALANDIA’s New Patron

Wellington ecosanctuary ZEALANDIA today announced the appointment of its new Patron – former Prime Minister and Minister of Conservation, Rt Hon Helen Clark.

“I am delighted to become Patron of ZEALANDIA,” Helen Clark said. “I’ve long been impressed by its dedication to providing an urban ecosanctuary and restoring its corner of Wellington.”

“We could not be more thrilled,” said ZEALANDIA Chief Executive, Paul Atkins. “Helen has been a life-long conservationist, both in her professional and private lives, and we are absolutely honoured to have her as our new Patron.”

I guess the billboard will be mounted at the entrance to Zealandia to celebrate the glorious occasion!
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February 9, 2019 8:44pm
- nasska
  
  If that doesn’t fuck ticket sales then nothing will!
  
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  February 9, 2019 8:47pm
  - niggly
    
    Nevermind people, even possums and other predators will be scared off!
    
    (Clearly the people at Zealandia came up with a cunning plan)!
    
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    February 9, 2019 8:51pm
- Viking2
  
  She might not have destroyed the birds but gave it a good shot with Kiwi’s.
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:22pm
nasska

It is only when you see a mosquito land on your testicles that you find another way to solve problems without violence.
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February 9, 2019 8:59pm
Jack5

A good analysis of Jacinderella’s economic speech on Friday, by Michael Reddell at Croaking Cassandra.

https://croakingcassandra.com/
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February 9, 2019 9:02pm
- Longknives
  
  Let me guess-
  
  ‘Absoludely!’
  ‘Posidively!’
  ‘Look at my little wee Baybeeee!’
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:27pm
Nostradamus

Jack5:

I read Jacinda’s speech earlier today and have been reflecting on these comments:

Yes, we have received the report of the Tax Working Group and, as we have shared publicly, it will be released on Thursday 21 February. That report is now being pored over by officials, and discussed with Coalition and Confidence and Supply partners. Our plan is for the Finance and Revenue ministers to release the Coalition Government’s full response to the report in April.

Importantly though, the Working Group’s report will be shared with the public. There will be time for everyone to see that work, to debate what they have said and to share views. Anything we subsequently decide will also go through a consultation process before legislation and ultimately will be put to voters at the next election before it comes into force.

My question: why can’t the report be published now? I can think of one or two cases where a government minister received a report, it was published immediately, and then the government provided a formal response within a few weeks or months. It seems to me that there’s no reason why the report can’t be published now, on the understanding that the government and its coalition partners are given time to digest the report and decide which parts (if any) they’ll support.
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February 9, 2019 9:11pm
- Longknives
  
  Mate I don’t want to sound too much like a Cynic- But the Government will support ALL the Tax Working Group’s ‘recommendations’!
  Because the fucking Government told them what these ‘recommendations’ were to be….
  *You think they would be paid that damn well and left to their own devices??
  
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  February 9, 2019 9:26pm
  - Nostradamus
    
    Which “Tax Working Group” report will be published?
    
    Jim Hacker: “Suppose he [Professor Henderson] produces one of these cautious wait-and-see reports?”
    Sir Humphrey: “Well in that case we don’t publish it, we use the American report instead.”
    Jim Hacker: “Oh fine. You mean we suppress it?”
    Sir Humphrey: “Certainly not, we just don’t publish it.”
    Jim Hacker: “What’s the difference?”
    Sir Humphrey: “Oh Minister, all the difference in the world. Suppression is the instrument of totalitarian dictatorship, we don’t talk of that sort of thing in a free country. We simply take a democratic decision not to publish it.”
    
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    February 9, 2019 9:59pm
    - stigie
      
      Fucking classic Nostra !~
      
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      February 9, 2019 10:32pm
simpleton1

Hat-tip Ruahine. & tf78
https://www.worldgovernmentsummit.org/
“Global dialogue for happiness and well-being” hmmm, just one such topic.
A sublime run of the OIC as Helen Clark in attendance.
Checking jobs? and for whom?
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February 9, 2019 11:15pm
Viking2

In a major step forward for kids’ health, the Government has announced it will ban smoking in cars with children – and police could fine those who don’t obey.

Under the law change, announced on Sunday, police will be able to require people to stop smoking in their cars if children (under 18) are present. Police will also be able to give warnings, refer people to stop-smoking support services, or issue an infringement fee of $50.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/02/government-bans-smoking-in-cars-with-children.html?fbclid=IwAR1NZG2Zgez1r9gUT9wL5jnWl4CR3CmiXMtisVZRWYdjC1p0vN2KJW7CXtc
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February 10, 2019 11:49am
- Prince
  
  I wonder what the criteria will be for a fine ?
  
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  February 10, 2019 1:19pm
- Rachael Membery
  
  A whole pouch or just over a packet of cigarettes.
  
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  February 10, 2019 5:22pm
  - sooty
    
    Will they be checking the ashtray, when they pull you up?
    
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    February 10, 2019 5:26pm
Fletch

A guy who tried the ideology of transgenderism and found it a load of rubbish.

Jamie Shupe, the first person in the US to be legally recognised as non-binary (in 2016), has now publicly returned to his male birth sex and stated that he believes gender identity to be a ‘fraud’.

“In my thirty plus year marriage, I am the husband. To my daughter, I am her Father. I no longer identity as a transgender or non-binary person and renounce all ties to transgenderism… I will not be a party to advancing harmful gender ideologies that are ruining lives, causing deaths and contributing to the sterilization and mutilation of gender-confused children.”

https://www.christiantoday.com/article/first-legally-non-binary-person-in-the-us-reverts-back-to-being-man/131687.htm
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February 10, 2019 2:07pm
- wiseowl
  
  Pity no GD today.
  Why can’t homosexuals accept that they cannot procreate.?
  The gay coffey is going to have a kid.
  It is totally unacceptable that this can occur.They want their cake and eat it too and in the future this will lead to huge psychological problems.
  
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  February 10, 2019 5:13pm
  - sooty
    
    I wonder if they get all the extras that JacinDUH and JAG get?
    Working for families?
    Parental leave?
    Which one is going to be the mummy, or is a nanny supplied?
    
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    February 10, 2019 5:24pm
Fletch

A Florida Republican has introduced a bill that is supposed to hold Democrats AND Republicans accountable for lying to Congress or the FBI.

So far, only Republicans have been held to account. We’ve had instances of Dems lying (Hillary Clinton, James Clapper, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lois Lerner, Eric Holder, John Brennan etc) and they’ve got off with no punishment whatsoever.

The bill aims to change that – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdWnivDn9NU

I don’t see the Dems voting for it though….
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February 10, 2019 2:12pm
sooty

What’s up with the All Blacks, wearing training bras?
Bit gay!
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February 10, 2019 7:13pm
CharlieBrown

The british thought police arrested a lady for “misgendering” a trans person on twitter: It is illegal to use the wrong pronoun in the UK. How freaking asinine is that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html

This was done under the equivalent of their cyberbullying law. You idiot national supporters allowed such a law to come to NZ. Thats what happens when you don’t hold your party to account and support them regardless of how fucking leftwing looney they go. Blogs like this will be targeted one day and to be honest it will kind of be karma if a few national supporters got done in by the stupid law they allowed to happen.
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February 11, 2019 7:42am