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artemisia

With two months to go before the recalibrated target 300 Kiwibuild homes to be delivered by end June, the official Kiwibuild site has been updated. The Kiwibuild Unit is going to be very busy next few weeks. Alternatively ‘recalibrated; will become ‘aspirational’.

Completed – 80 (April – 74)
Sold – 71 (April – 64)
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May 2, 2019 8:04am
Scott

Those of us concerned about the gravy train known as the Treaty of Waitangi could do no better than to read “One treaty, One nation” by Don Brash, Hugh Barr etc.

It notes that in 1984 the decision was made at a Hui in Ngaruawahia to investigate Treaty claims going back to 1840.

Deputy PM Geoffrey Palmer said with an astonishing lack of foresight that he “did some research on the outstanding greviances and it did not appear that looking into them would open a can of worms and the claims may take a decade to deal with, that it would cause some anguish but would be worth it in the end.”

Since then we have had transfer payments of over $3B to Maori interests including top up payments to Ngai Tahu and Tainui of over $400M. There is no end in sight with claims continuing to pile up including Maori claims to the new 5G network! Ngapuhi have not yet settled, which will probably be the biggest claim.

How long will you the NZ taxpayer put up with this? We have been one nation and one people for the best part of 200 years. When are we going to cry out enough?

Because here’s the thing. Unless we stop this, it will go on forever. Maori interests will have every incentive to go back to the Waitangi tribunal in perpetuity. This should be an election issue IMHO.
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May 2, 2019 8:09am
- G152
  
  Some-one has popped up claiming Brash and co to be racist..
  For wanting equality for all ?????????????????
  How long did it take the fake news to dig that one up and what bad news for the left are they trying to deflect?
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:30am
  - Prince
    
    No need to worry.
    The Maori Council has complained to the Human Rights Commission that Brash and co are inciting ‘hatred and violence’.
    But we can be assured the Commissioner will treat them fairly. After all the Commissioner will be steeped in NZ tradition and history and be prepared to accept different views, uh oh….
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/112368993/securing-a-highly-influential-public-position-doesnt-make-human-rights-boss-one-of-us
    
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    May 2, 2019 8:55am
    - niggly
      
      Good news!?!? Old White Men are “ok” and can be in positions of power … as long as they are NZ Labour Party sycophants! Oh wait … //
      
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      May 2, 2019 9:11am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Constant deflection is required to hide the COL’s daily disasters. NZ is now laughing stock of the world for censorship.
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:21am
- BobbyS
  
  Thanks Scott
  
  As a 1st generation NZer, with 2nd generation NZer kids, we are becoming more and more segregated within our own country.
  Only last week a survey compiled by Massey Uni for secondary schools, as the first question, asked about my kids Ethnicity
  1. Maori
  2. NZ European / Pakeha
  3. Pacifica
  etc
  etc
  
  When there is no option to choose New Zealander you know the separatism, discrimination, racism and eventual segregation is well entrenched
  
  I have had enough & I push back now – every time
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:44am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Answers 1, 2, and 3 are all ‘New Zealanders’, which is not an ethnicity.
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:21am
    - Tall Man
      
      Only in your limited mind.
      
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      May 2, 2019 12:16pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Those classifications have been used by govt for many years. My people have been in NZ and contributed for over 150 years. Which slot do my family fit in? I’m actually pale skin by virtue of my lineage–the midwife didn’t do a repaint job on my arrival.
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:27am
- David Garrett
  
  Scott: Quite so…Palmer is without question the biggest goose in the law in New Zealand – just as he was the biggest goose in parliament.
  
  Here are just two of his fuckups: 1) Section 9 of the SOE’s Act which says that “Nothing in this Act shall be inconsistent with the principles of the Treaty…” He told the Labour cabinet of the day that that section was “meaningless window dressing” and wouldn’t change anything. Instead it set off a train of litigation by Maori interests which shows no sign of ending; 2) He recommended release of the French “Rainbow Warrior” saboteurs to Hao Atoll to serve out the remainder of their 10 year sentences, saying he was confident the French would honour their undertakings to hold them there. The pricks were back in France within 18 months.
  
  The man is a clown.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:46am
  - Prince
    
    As big a clown as Andrew Litttle ?
    
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    May 2, 2019 8:56am
    - David Garrett
      
      Prince: Believe or not, I think Palmer is even worse…despite a history of horrendous fuckups – of which I have identified but two – he inexplicably remains quite influential in legal circles. Little is just another politician…when Labour gets voted out, his influence will disappear.
      
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      May 2, 2019 9:54am
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
        One day, perhaps, Garrett will spend some time reflecting on the reasons why he has no influence in this country.
        
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        May 2, 2019 10:22am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Garrett’s Three Strikes legislation is still on our Statute books mikenmild; can you claim any influence equal to that? I’m sure I can’t.
        
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        May 2, 2019 10:33am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        @mma
        The fact that you have bothered to post a response to DG’s comment indicates that he has had an influence on you (at least).
        
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        May 2, 2019 10:38am
      - Tall Man
        
        mikey… posting daily reminders of his own irrelevance…….
        
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        May 2, 2019 12:19pm
      - calendar girl
        
        That’s Mr Garrett to you, mm.
        
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        May 2, 2019 8:55pm
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Palmer has always been about as much use as the Easter Island statue which he resembles.
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:24am
  - Micky
    
    He also wants to write the Treaty into a New Zealand constitution –
    https://constitutionaotearoa.org.nz/
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:18am
  - Morrissey
    
    Geoffrey Palmer is a coward, a fool, a tool of dictators.
    
    https://www.democracynow.org/2011/9/2/as_turkey_freezes_israel_ties_critics
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:06pm
- septic skeptic
  
  Hasn’t Winston already been there and done that?
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:10am
- Micky
  
  History has shown – you won’t stop this by voting for Labour, Greens, NZ First or National (and definitely not TOP).
  
  The Waitangi tribunal has absolutely no incentive to bring the claims to an end. Too much money for the Judges and Lawyers who have probably been paid more than the 3B over the nearly 40 years.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:32am
- tf78
  
  Scott – it’s worse than that log into Muriel Newman’s NZCPR website and read her latest newsletter, it covers Iwi and Human Wrongs Commissar Paul Hunt. . That will make you lose sleep.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:49am
- Jack5
  
  It’s to be expected that Maori would get a share of the 5G spectrum after earlier governments allocated them part of the wireless spectrum.
  
  That was right and fair, because Maori invented radio. Right now Maori academics and sympathetic white anthropologists are scouring oral history for more proof of this, ready for a 5G heist.
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:49pm
Nukuleka

Interesting that none other than Hone Harawira displays a rather more mature approach to Brian Tamaki’s Man-Up prison rehabilitation programme than others who simply resort to personal invective and tell Tamaki to ‘eff off’ or ‘eff up’! Harawira says that he has seen first hand that the Man Up programme can reduce violence in repeat prison offenders and calls for a study to analyse its effectiveness.

As someone who generally has no time for Harawira I admire the fact that in this case he hasn’t simply delivered a knee- jerk response, as others have done, but is prepared to give the programme a chance. Don’t shoot the message just because you dislike the messenger.

Good on Harawira, for once.
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May 2, 2019 8:11am
- harvey wilson
  
  Sometimes I think Harawira actually has something to offer and then I see him whinge about the cops coming for gangs guns or continuing the lies about Covington and it’s obvious the Apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:45am
- ducklin71
  
  Yes it’s rare to hear anything sensible coming from Hone, but stranger things have happened.
  
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  May 2, 2019 11:23am
- MCos
  
  Just because Hone Harawira says something is OK doesn’t necessarily mean it is.
  Personally I’m not sure that the real purpose of this programme isn’t recruitment for the church.
  
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  May 2, 2019 12:21pm
  - Nukuleka
    
    As opposed to recruitment for anti-social gangs, which is what prison currently does?
    
    Another closed mind Christophobic post from MCos. I have not endorsed either Harawira nor Tamaki- just suggested that the Man Up programme at least be analysed to determine its effectiveness.
    
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    May 2, 2019 12:33pm
- Tall Man
  
  I also thought he made a well reasoned argument but I cannot understand why tamaki is wanting funding from the government to fund his programmes. Surely he should be talking to the well heeled iwi group after all, he is working to improve maori outcomes and aren’t the cash settlements given to maori also meant to improve maori outcomes?
  
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  May 2, 2019 12:25pm
Lee C

Posted yesterday – deserves scrutiny: File under ‘Socialism for the rich’… https://www.facebook.com/569518763736818/photos/a.569556677066360/603094280379266/?type=3&theater
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May 2, 2019 8:14am
- peterwn
  
  No wonder Phil Twyford does not want local MP’s chatting with TANZ people.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:20am
- kevn
  
  @Lee… Funny how a parking consultant ends up yapping about NZ road toll = ‘Zero tolerance’.
  Bring on the rumble strips…
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:45am
- BobbyS
  
  Corruption – until proven otherwise however our MSM are too busy either providing puff pieces for the PM OR trying to take out the Leader of the Opposition party
  
  It always makes me laugh when people say to me NZ is corrupt free
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:14am
- Tall Man
  
  Nepotism?
  
  Surely not……..
  
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  May 2, 2019 12:27pm
Happychappy

If it is true that Nationals internal polls say Winston and his party are on 1% according to Simon Bridges yesterday in Parliament while attacking the laziness of the NZ First Leader, could that be the reason Winston has agreed a deal with the Greens on climate change and dairy stock methane emissions. Does Winston believe he can take votes off Labour and the Greens to remain in Parliament or is this his last chance to create get revenge on National voters and farmers.
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May 2, 2019 8:16am
- niggly
  
  I’m glad you said this because it reminded me of your post yesterday and the link to the Stuff article:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112353042/methane-emissions-deal-kick-starts-climate-change-legislation
  
  From the article:
  
  It comes as Shaw took delivery on Tuesday of two reports – on agriculture and on transitioning to 100 per cent renewable electricity by 2035 – from the Interim Climate Change Committee (ICCC).
  
  This is scary stuff, the Greens & James Shaw, as well as the farming issue they want “100% renewable energy by 2035” which as we know according to the Australian experience will see power blackouts (diminished energy security) and people’s energy costs rising.
  
  And again the poorer people will be paying for James Shaw, the Greens, Jacinda and Labour’s “comfortable urban middle class” folly.
  
  As no doubt Jacinda will support this, but will Winston and the NZ First traitors support this?
  
  The answer to the question will undoubtedly be, “what’s in it for Winston”?
  
  What will he be wanting in order to secure support for the Greens and Jacinda f’ing Kiwi’s over? No doubt with Jacinda’s full support, and the traitor Winston & his NZ First MP’s …
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:42am
  - niggly
    
    Oops ignore last sentence it was a cut and paste double-up!
    
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    May 2, 2019 8:57am
  - hullkiwi
    
    The report from the ICCC on changing NZ to a 100% renewable energy supply will either have been reviewed/revised from what was published early last month or it will never see the light of day without very precise OI Requests. This is because the draft findings last month were telling Shaw that a 100% renewable energy supply for NZ by 2035 is unaffordable and will require significant price hikes in the cost of power to consumers and industry. Something that would be political suicide. So is James brave enough and going to be honest with New Zealanders?
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:02am
    - niggly
      
      Surely Green zealotry wins, as in Shaw, Greens and Labour (oh and WinstonFirst) will press on, “tax the rich” (and cut Defence etc) and “subsidise” their support base so when power costs go through the roof they can all smuggly pat themselves on the backs and say they have “looked after the environment and struggling NZers’)?!!!
      
      As for power cuts, “comrades, what is a little sacrifice for the greater good”?!!!
      
      Ahem of course the governing elite won’t be affected … something to do with “Four legs good, two legs better! Four legs good, two legs better! Four legs good, two legs better!” … although I left after 5 minutes of that so no idea what was said afterwards if at all! 😉
      
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      May 2, 2019 9:20am
      - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
        
        surely old, sick and poor people dying of cold is a positive – think of the pressure reduced on the planet.
        
        Power prices are already 40% up on a decade ago because of hugely expensive and inefficient “renewables”.
        
        Enjoy the cold, never mind, your subsidy will be in the mail….
        
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        May 2, 2019 10:12am
      - MickMac
        
        Hulkiwi
        Remember Winston peters gave us this….
        and those of us who voted for him of course.
        
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        May 2, 2019 3:59pm
    - Colville
      
      100% renewable is easy.
      
      Build some bloody big dams!
      
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      May 2, 2019 9:44am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Do you remember the Cromwell High Dam saga. Back in the early 1980s, NZ was told this would be the last high dam for a generation….whoops, 40 years has nearly gone past….
        
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        May 2, 2019 11:32am
      - Jack5
        
        Hydro dams aren’t for ever. They silt up over time.
        
        The Clyde dam mistakes included overlooking it is on a fault line that made it susceptible to an earthquake collapsing river banks up-river and sending down a big wave that could sweep over the dam and perhaps wash away the power house below. This has been partly remedied by expensive work on the river banks.
        
        Another error was the dam’s lack of water storage. It’s mostly run of the river. Poor water storage is a feature of most of NZ’s hydro electric dams. The big, deep valleys that are a feature of a hyro-power country like Norway are scarce at suitable NZ dam sites. That’s why we need gas or coal-fired stations as back-up for our hydro storage (as well as to manage peak demands).
        
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        May 2, 2019 5:21pm
  - tf78
    
    There was a young (about 16) girl on Mike’s ZB morning show saying she wasn’t going to university as she only had 11 years left to live because of climate change. (she will probably spend the next 11 years protesting). What on earth is all this propaganda doing to the minds of these kids. How many will end up committing suicide – it is nothing but child abuse. Someone’s got to stop this shit like NOW.
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:58am
    - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
      
      One less subsidy wasted. If she is stupid enough to believe this, then she is too stupid even for a NZ university….
      
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      May 2, 2019 10:12am
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Greens are ill-informed nut-jobs, but as an expert on energy matters I am sure now that we are going to see vast uptake of PV/battery systems and electric vehicles for reasons of pure (lowest cost) economics over next 10-20 years.
    
    PV is already cheap enough, In US it is being sold at USD$0.03/kWh for new utility scale plants undercutting NZ’s wholesale electricity rate of ~$0.08/kWh.
    
    The last hurdle was batteries, but they have now hit $US100/kWh and will continue to drop (due to manufacturing learning curves), with industry leaders predicting $50/kWh by 2025. It will soon be cheaper to go off grid, and specialist finance/installation companies will rise to enable this. Also electric vehicles will become (for almost all users) cheaper than petrol within 6-7 years.
    
    So ignore enviro-nazis, and just let the market do its thing and we will end up almost entirely renewable in 20-30 years anyway.
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:30am
    - Tall Man
      
      Possibly correct but the downside of this is that as the number of “self generating” systems grows the “base” charges for the network increase per capita as fewer have to “support” the network.
      
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      May 2, 2019 12:41pm
      - UrbanNeocolonialist
        
        True. Or maybe the monopoly that is Vector/transpower magically discovers that it is possible to be more efficient and competitive, once they have competition.
        
        About 2/3 of household electricity price is distribution, and I suspect that batteries charged at substations and driven out to households (autonomous electric vehicles) will ultimately undercut the cost of that, making last-mile grid uneconomic. We might even end up trading between households (cheaper in $/kW to cover your whole roof in PV than just part of it)
        
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        May 2, 2019 3:33pm
- alien
  
  i dont believe winston is at 1 percent, and I believe it is silly if bridges or anyone write him off. However he did take votes off national last election, hopefully those people realise now he would never go with national and wont vote him again
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:47am
  - MickMac
    
    I have.
    But Simon had better up his game or it’s ACT I’ll give my party vote too.
    
    Guns process and Free Speach Simon is AWOL.
    Same for Collins and the rest.
    
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    May 2, 2019 4:01pm
Inandout

Netflix have added this doco to their lineup:

‘Go behind the scenes as four determined women — including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez — challenge big-money politicians in the 2018 race for Congress’.

Might give it a miss.
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May 2, 2019 8:17am
- tf78
  
  I watched a video of AOC last night – I reckon she’s on some powerful drugs, her eyes almost popped out.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:00am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Lawnmowing” in the US…nah..impossible.
    
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    May 2, 2019 12:42pm
Maggie Pie

My partners been staying down at his parents Waikato farmhouse in readiness for Opening Day. He called about an hour ago to say “the omens were really looking good”. When he got up earlier and pulled back the curtains he couldnt beleive his luck – there were 2 Parrys sitting on the swiming pool. Quietly grabbed his gun and gave them both barrels out the window. Only problem is theyre going to have to replace 2 or 3 of the terracotta coping stones.
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May 2, 2019 8:21am
- kowtow
  
  When my swimming pool was damaged last year it was easy to fix , just got another 10 litre bucket from the 2 $ shop.
  
  ps good to see your partner has an old fashioned shotty , not one of them illegal ones , made so by hasty ill considered rushed legislation.
  
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/112375744/duck-hunting-season-new-gun-laws-in-place-in-wake-of-christchurch-shooting
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:36am
Stuart

From the Dom post… Wellington man Thomas Morgan saw a numberplate with the letters GUN on it and found it upsetting so now NZTA is offering to replace these for free…
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May 2, 2019 8:27am
- niggly
  
  OMG please tell me this is satire …
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:48am
- sooty
  
  That woke was Thomas Morgan!
  They are offering to give you another for free.
  Why because the resale value just went up!
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:54am
- niggly
  
  I wonder what other car number plates the woke left want banned? Surely they must be working on:
  
  MAN? (Obviously)!
  
  KEY? (as in Sir John)!
  
  NZ? (Well if they can’t have 7 lettered number plates like AOTEAROA then harumph we can’t have “NZ”, wah wah)!
  
  WHT, WH, WT, or even W? (because it could be interpreted as “white”)?
  
  Any others peeps? 😉
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:05am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    My partner checked last week to see if KOONT was still available.
    Apparently it is so hes thinking about getting it for his Bronco.
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:46am
    - Rich Prick
      
      SEEUNT is available too.
      
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      May 2, 2019 10:17am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        That was one of my dads fave TV shows when he was a boy 🙂
        
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        May 2, 2019 10:35am
  - Fletch
    
    I was in South Auckland in the early 2000’s and some car had the license plate ‘MMPSUX’. I had to nod in agreement. It probably sux even more now than it did then.
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:45am
  - Morrissey
    
    These plates are still on sale…
    
    DIPPA (nice gift for Bill English)
    
    RORTA (ditto)
    
    DIKWAD
    
    DOOMED (nice present for Simon Bridges)
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:14pm
- Rich Prick
  
  In other woke news the scaredy-cat snowflakes are seeing white supremacy everywhere, just everywhere.
  
  One of the stories that came up in there was someone was saying ‘is it going to take for me to be shot for this to be taken seriously?’
  
  I’d rather have facts and evidence (note how these are always absent from these stories) than anecdotal snowflake stories, thank you very much.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:21am
- the deity formerly known as nigel6888
  
  Its almost like its local government election time isn’t it?
  
  Mr Morgan is an “unemployed politician” (ahem, oxymoron) so is clearly just looking to build name recognition…
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:22am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Is NZTA going to pull the 9999 licence plates with the prefix GUN? Somehow, I doubt it.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:24am
  - simpleton1
    
    Do not panic 🙂
    Just 999
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:40am
  - Rich Prick
    
    Spare a thought for Jason. What ever to do about him and his name?
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:35am
- alien
  
  wonder what will happen to Jason Gunn
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:29pm
- MickMac
  
  Who is he?
  A lefty?
  another wet like James Shaw?
  or an activist looking for a moment?
  
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  May 2, 2019 4:03pm
Paulus

I am interested to her the distress brought on people who are being asked to pay more Insurance Premiums.
Over 40 years ago household insurances charged what is called risk base where every house was rated and charged on a number of factors based upon what was know a tariff book – where every known factor was determined and a premium was built up.
Competition knocked this on the head. In 1980 there were 32 Fire & General Insurance providers trading in New Zealand. Open policies covering all sorts of add on risks were thrown into the mix to get market shares.
Following the tragic earthquakes those Insurers who were left found that their liabilities were far in excess of what they thought – eg AMI. Their wholesalers – Reinsurers, were astounded at the volume of collective claims they received far in excess of what they were advised. So back to risk assessment charging – ie those with the highest risk will have to either pay more or retain more of the risk – like San Francisco where earthquake cover is often not attainable or a high excess – 20% say.
But in recent years the threat of Global Warming has been thrust right into the front line – so an additional risk factor is now highlighted and has to be taken into more serious consideration.
Previously this was not really considered relevant.
Government taxes (GST, EQ Commission -no more Contents cover, and increasing Fire Service Levies) are also an important cost factor further adding to increase premiums.
So higher International wholesale costs for the world market -not just New Zealand, and the to diminishing local market which is now very small will unfortunately put up costs of cover.
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May 2, 2019 8:29am
- Inandout
  
  Paulus, have a relative who chortled they saved $100 a year from what their broker’s insurer was charging, by going to the local AMI office. They live in an earthquake area and are probably unaware AMI is now under the IAG umbrella.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:55am
- peterwn
  
  I do not know what Wellington’s left wing mayor is hoping to achieve with an insurance ‘forum’. There are suggestions all the time that the government should intervene in insurance to stop ‘discriminatory’ behaviour when setting premiums. The problem here is people who would pay lower premiums but for government intervention would simply insure offshore and no doubt companies and brokers would facilitate this.
  Seems the only other option is for the government to do a ‘Kiwibank’ (which replaced the former POSB) and set up ‘Kiwicover’ (in place of ‘Government Life’ and ‘State’ which were sold off). The government would need to decide whether to off-load the risk on to Swiss re-insurance gnomes or to carry the re-insurance risk itself. And then the problem with any government insurer intent on premium ‘equality’ is other companies will ‘cherry pick’ customers. This happened with Southern Cross Health Insurance where the young effectively subsidised the old in its initial years of operation, then competitors entering the business cherry-picked their young customers, forcing Southern Cross to increase premiums for its older customers resulting in much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:11am
  - the deity formerly known as nigel6888
    
    As before, its election year, this is going to be a hurty issue. He is trying to be seen to do something, and make it all someone else’s problem, while not doing anything at all.
    
    Must be a Labour thing?
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:14am
  - Poppa
    
    Is it not ironic that Lester has been a huge campaigner about climate change & rising seas flooding parts of Wellington. Now he seems to be saying that insurers shouldn’t charge extra in Wellington.
    
    What a twat
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:50am
    - MickMac
      
      poppa
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      May 2, 2019 4:05pm
  - Paulus
    
    The formation of what you call “Kiwicover” will require a capital structure of several Billion dollars first – Taxpayers money to obtain a properly recognised solvency margin as determined by the Reserve Bank regulations for Insurance Companies – and accepted internationally for Reinsurance purposes.
    There is nothing new in your suggestion as aspects have been tried and failed in the past.
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:09pm
Simon

Leftist turds and their climate change extinction / emergency fantasies. You can see from post yesterday about 1 May socialist day about real man made extinction.

Socialist have re-branded themselves as environmentalists caring about the people and planet. But the only extinction level threat is if their policies are once again enacted.
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May 2, 2019 8:33am
- Than
  
  Absolutely.
  
  I completely accept climate change is real and human-caused, and think we should be taking all the practical steps we can to reduce our emissions. But some of the hyperbole and hysteria I see in news articles and social media posts on this topic is downright alarming. For some people it’s taking on a status not far short of being a doomsday cult.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:11am
  - kowtow
    
    So what ended the last ice age 10 -15000 years ago. We only enjoy the environment we currently live in cos of warming back then …….
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:35am
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Milankovitch cycles. Due to orbital precession the solar flux on northern latitudes increased above necessary threshold and led to melting of icesheets, same as for previous 20-30 cycles of glaciation.
      
      More interesting (and unknown) is what caused the temperature spikes of the Minoan, Roman, Medieval and now Modern Warm periods at ~1050 year intervals. Some large Natural cycle at play that is likely responsible for much of current warming.
      
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      May 2, 2019 10:37am
    - ducklin71
      
      The cavemen blamed Bigfoot and his capitalist mates for the ice age coming to an end. That is how STUPID the left truly is.
      
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      May 2, 2019 11:31am
    - Rob2
      
      Here is the answer. Science wins.
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDOgWeTAas0
      
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      May 2, 2019 7:53pm
  - David Garrett
    
    Than: What do you mean it’s “not far short of a doomsday cult”?? that is exactly what the new religion based around climate change – formerly global warming – already is. Complete with increasingly shrill denunciations of “deniers”, and a rigid set of beliefs which the faithful must sign up to, and practices which they are exhorted to follow.
    
    Shit, that reminds me of another religion/way of life …
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:02am
  - rightoverlabour
    
    Watch Patrick Moore to dispell the fantasy that climate change is Human -caused.
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWahKIG4BE4
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:36am
  - Ford Prefect
    
    As you have obviously looked into climate change I was hoping you could help me with some answers
    
    What is the correct temperature for the earth?
    And therefore what is the correct amount of CO2 that is needed to maintain that temperature?
    Over the last 100 odd years of recorded temperatures, when was earth the correct temperature?
    Before the Industrial Revolution, was the temperature of the earth lower or higher than your correct temperature?
    
    Thanks
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:49pm
    - UrbanNeocolonialist
      
      Easy: Change bad, Man bad, Technology bad, Farming Bad, Business bad, Live in tree good, Convenience bad, my convenience good. Animal good, Cow bad, Bird Good, Seagull and Magpie bad, Insect Good, Cockroach Bad. Tree good, Pine tree bad, Vegetable good, Wheat Bad, Islam good, misogyny and homophobia bad. My expensive house and porsche in leafy green suburb good, communism good, high tax and redistribution good. Poor, welfare dependent and immigrants good, not afford to live near me very good. Use fuel bad, me fly holiday good. Free speech good, you speech bad. White man bad, Brown man good, Racism bad. Women good, Man bad, Sexism bad. Young good, Old bad, Ageism bad. Equal opportunity good, private school for my kids good.
      
      Women on TV tell me what think. Me very very very confuse.
      
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      May 2, 2019 4:02pm
  - MickMac
    
    Than
    I don’t.
    
    When they started the whole shebang in the 70-80’s they wanted to add redistribution of wealth from rich to poor countries.
    That wasn’t science but politics.
    err……
    
    Then in 2007 I read Unstoppable Global Warming every 1500yrs by Prof Fred Singer.
    
    It confirmed for me the science is cherry picked for financial gain and status in academia.
    additionally Billions of $ have been wasted of Taxpayers monies all over the world.
    
    Instead of being put into technologies and changes to systems to ameliorate Global warming/Climate change.
    
    Climate change is a natural process, that we in our egos think we affect/control.
    Bollocks.
    
    We are nothing alongside the Sun and other processes.
    
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    May 2, 2019 4:11pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Socialist have re-branded themselves as environmentalists
  
  Yep, that’s where the money tree grows these days.
  
  Even Amnesty International has abandoned Human Rights in favour of Klimate Kontrol.
  
  https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/amnesty-international-expands-remit-to-include-climate-change-w9zs38mmn
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:35am
Tony Stuart

If evidence was needed of the bias of Newshub/Tova O’Brien against Simon Bridges and National, here goes.

On Tuesday, O’Brien reported that “Newshub understands former Prime Minister Sir John Key has shown some support behind the scenes for Judith Collins to be National leader. ”

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/04/newshub-understands-sir-john-key-has-shown-support-for-judith-collins.html

Yesterday, Sir John categorically denied the allegation made against him. Where is Newshub’s story about that? And why is the “fake news” Newshub story still featuring prominently on Newshub’s website?

Ms O’Brien’s lack of objectivity with regard to Bridges is well known. Why do Newshub’s senior staff continue to give her a platform, when she publishes rumours and scuttlebutt dressed up as fact?
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May 2, 2019 8:39am
- All_on_Red
  
  Exactly
  Where’s the correction and retraction.
  ‘Dirty dirty smear merchants!’
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:48am
  - Happychappy
    
    Look who Tova is supporting and Parliamentary services pay for this mongrel to help him try and save his career.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12226985
    
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    May 2, 2019 10:07am
- niggly
  
  Regarding Ms O’Brien’s lack of objectivity … as it makes no sense I can only conclude that JLR “setup” Bridges in one of his secret recordings in which JLR said something about her (be it derogatory or sexist) and Bridges possibly didn’t give a “PC” response.
  
  I mean how would I know, I don’t know of course, but it’s the only thing that makes a little bit of sense because as we know as facts JLR was making secret recordings of Bridges and was passing them on to Tova O’Brien. From that point on the normally objective O’Brien has become incredibly partisan and personal in her attacks on Simon Bridges. Mind you perhaps either that or someone else in National is still feeding her anti-Bridges stories, which is also a possibility.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:54am
- alien
  
  havent seen that story, can you provide a link where Key denied it.
  
  The only thing I have seen Key say is
  
  “I don’t comment on leadership issues”
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:38am
- Tricati
  
  O’Brian is a bloody shocker, as is Gower with his hit piece on National on the AM show this morning in regard to Pike River – I note their survey showed majority not in support of re-entry
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:01am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Aw, Tova’s got the blarney of the Irish–she’s likely a rellie, and I can string a story 500km long. Who needs truth in this modern world: interviewing keyboards is much more efficient.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:15am
- Paulus
  
  Tony Stuart
  Ask JLR !
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:12pm
alloytoo

Newhub understands = Tova would have you believe….
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May 2, 2019 8:43am
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone know if NZ’s political parties are doing email tracking?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2019-05-02/email-tracking-parties-interest-groups-australian-election/11056186
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May 2, 2019 8:44am
- Inandout
  
  Maggy, another reason why general elections must never go to online voting.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:58am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Doesn’t bother me one bit, but it will sure upset my Greenie mates when I tell them that they are being tracked each time they download their Green Party emails.
    
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    May 2, 2019 9:49am
- alien
  
  it’s common, i have a friend whose newletters do this
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:05pm
All_on_Red

Ah, Paris in the Spring
https://mobile.twitter.com/simplybeautific/status/1123614837035151360
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May 2, 2019 8:46am
Happychappy

Has Jacinda and Labour with the help of
David Clark the Health Minister and Stuart Nash the Police Minister believe that classing drug use and distribution as a health problem instead of a crime will save lives
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=12226889
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May 2, 2019 9:13am
- Fletch
  
  I guess if the masses are drugged to the eyeballs then it is easier to implement liberal policies. Keeps them pliable and docile, like the Soma drug in Huxley’s Brave New World.
  
  “I don’t understand anything,” she said with decision, determined to preserve her incomprehension intact. “Nothing. Least of all,” she continued in another tone “why you don’t take soma when you have these dreadful ideas of yours. You’d forget all about them. And instead of feeling miserable, you’d be jolly. So jolly,”
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:52am
- mark15
  
  Hc
  I have yet to ask Mr Nash of those drug users how many are already under the care of mental health services.Will be an interesting answer.
  
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  May 2, 2019 11:41am
- Happychappy
  
  Obviously the Government are not listening and the Police Association are not happy.
  https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/388222/drug-law-change-goes-too-far-police-association
  Why have a Police force if you are going to let people break the law on class A drugs.
  
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  May 2, 2019 12:33pm
MrLovebucket

This is an interesting chart on NZ GDP to follow. There is a distinct downward trend forming since the change of Govt. Not sure when the next block of data is due, but should hopefully provide yet more ammo against the muppets.

https://www.stats.govt.nz/topics/gross-domestic-product
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May 2, 2019 9:16am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Bit of a problem for Robinson’s Fiscal Hole when all labour’s (ludicrous) election promises required GDP growth of 4-5%, and now looking like they will struggle to achieve half of that (last half year is only 1.8% annual growth). House prices now firmly dropping in Auckland region.
  
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  May 2, 2019 9:33am
  - Happychappy
    
    Jacinda telling those that would listen in Nelson today that we have strong GDP Growth and very low unemployment.
    
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/112408103/prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-announces-plan-to-increase-skills-and-trade-training
    I wouldn’t think going on the the last half year figure will lead to the strong growth they are talking about.
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:36pm
Happychappy

Wow Barcelona 3 Liverpool 0 it looks like Liverpool’s season is about to fall apart.
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May 2, 2019 9:22am
the deity formerly known as nigel6888

Have you seen the “pre-trial” agreement that NZs so called media has signed up to?

Wow!

Talk about’responsible journalism’ ™ we faithfully promise not to say anything or report anything that might upset the government’s narrative.

lapdogs.
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May 2, 2019 9:27am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It has made the world news too:
  https://www.rt.com/op-ed/458067-christchurch-shooter-trial-nz-media-protocol/
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:18am
  - sooty
    
    I hope that the overseas media are going to cover it. Other wise we will hear bugger all.
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:20am
  - Tall Man
    
    “Within this febrile climate, does the media want to become a willing tool of the establishment, or does at least one outlet want to break away and do its job? Particularly in an era where journalistic homogeneity and groupthink is already an issue, even in countries much bigger and more diverse than New Zealand. And in which both, free speech and factual reporting are increasingly secondary to political imperatives.”
    
    Even the Russians are concerned about the motives here.
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:18pm
the deity formerly known as nigel6888

So maybe “somebody did something” followed by “sad face” will be the standard of reporting.

Seems to be the standard of leadership we are seeing too.
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May 2, 2019 9:28am
Maggie Pie

We were discussing this last night at work.
Well sorry – but 46 weeks ?!!

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1123691191076302848

[some of the replys are hilarious – some a bit nasty]
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May 2, 2019 9:34am
- Tall Man
  
  I’m with this guy…
  
  https://tenor.com/view/no-one-cares-noonecares-dontcare-gif-8737514
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:19pm
MrTips

This guy got FOUR wives? Looks like he got them all to cook for him at the same time….
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May 2, 2019 9:43am
- sooty
  
  He’s also got four motherinlaws!
  
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  May 2, 2019 11:21am
kevn

What is a good locally based news site? Thanks folks..
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May 2, 2019 9:48am
- rightoverlabour
  
  Fox News, or Al Jazeera, or any of the UK sites. Stuff and the Herald just copy and paste anyway. If its not on an overseas news site, its probably not news worthy.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:33am
  - howitis
    
    Al Jazeera are currently interfering in the Australian election campaign.
    
    Al Jazeera is from a completely dictatorial place that has no place for democracy.
    They should be banned in Western countries.
    They spray anti-western propaganda and use many $$Billions to interfere in other country politics and internal affairs both in their region and around the world.
    Qatar has huge oil/gas wealth to do this.
    
    Will All Jizz report on the hundreds of deaths (estimated to be in excess of 2000 by the end) in building the stadiums for the 2022 Football World cup where they paid massive bribes to grubby corrupt European based FIFA?
    There will be more dead bodies from building the stadiums than actual football players playing in this tournament by more than 2:1
    Qatar. There is no separation of church, state, or media there.
    
    The only thing of value on al Jaz error is live feed e.g. from the UK House of Reps, because the minute they put their grubby claws on it the story is distorted.
    Ok, similar to Herald, WaPo, NYT, Clinton News Network etc.
    Their bobbly heads/teleprompter readers are recruited from those too far left for even the BBC.
    
    Al Jizz error (representing the anti democracy Qatar Govt) have paid for more than 2 years to secretly document the legitimate One Nation Party of Australia in order to discredit them.
    Nine Network Australia has used this distorted footage to attack the Party.
    One Nation has a flagship policy (out in the open) of significantly reducing immigration.
    Qatar wants to export Islam into western countries and has lots of wealth to do it with.
    Do you see how the Qatar Govt treats guest workers in their country?
    Do some homework.
    
    The Qatar Govt is so grubby even the following neighbours find them abhorrent: UAE, Bahrain, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
    Qatar (in part, using Al Jaz_error for propaganda ) was interfering in these countries and naturally they did not like it.
    Qatar was involved in undermining Regional Govts of the middle East and North Africa in the ‘Arab Spring’ from 2011.
    Quote:
    
    Qatar invests billions of dollars in the U.S. and Europe and then recycles the profits to support Iranian-aligned Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood and groups linked to al Qaeda.
    
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    May 2, 2019 12:03pm
- Tall Man
  
  These guys…
  
  ” ”
  
  and best of all, they’re free and you get exactly what you pay for.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:22pm
Micky

The Herald sucks ass now (unless you are willing to pay).
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May 2, 2019 9:53am
- kevn
  
  @Micky… Herald kicked to touch now. Even the satire/Sideswipe is classed as Premium. Joke.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:31am
- Tall Man
  
  Even if you pay they suck….
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:22pm
  - Micky
    
    haha, classic!
    
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    May 2, 2019 2:05pm
KevO'Brien

Have a little CO2–some facts for the anxious:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/01/a-story-of-co2-data-manipulation/

When is the fraud on the people going to be stopped?
Fear is wrecking childrens lives too–the socialists ask too much.
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May 2, 2019 9:54am
- Kabull
  
  Some clips that should be watched by those who, even if they support the climate change hysteria, are prepared to be a little skeptical.
  
  The first, on the situation in the Maldives (8 mins), which is topical given the persistent squeals about how Wellington is going to drawn
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p51t2MHcms&t=301s
  
  The second is a longer video of Christopher Monckton’s take on the lies we are being fed:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDNcWxvy4ds&t=392s
  
  The third is a summary of how sea level rise warnings have not produced the effect the alarmists wanted:
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82smfcypUc
  
  This whole climate change matter is a serious abuse of media and political power but I have no idea how it can be stopped.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:08pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The lack of sunspots may put an end to it: the earth doesn’t exist on its own . Some scientists believe an extended cooling period has begun,
    
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    May 2, 2019 4:26pm
- All_on_Red
  
  With youth suicide a problem, then perhaps constantly telling our children the world is going to end isn’t very helpful…
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:42pm
Morrissey

Fascists

http://normanfinkelstein.com/2019/05/01/the-world-according-to-israel/
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May 2, 2019 10:10am
- Swifty
  
  Norman Finkelstein is a proven liar, a failed academic and a conspiracy theorist.
  
  Even those on the left have no time for him.
  
  You do your cause no good at all by repeatedly linking to him. In fact, it makes you look like a fellow crank.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:58am
  - Morrissey
    
    Possibly that is the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever posted.
    
    Quite an achievement.
    
    The article is by Tamar Pileggi, and it’s in the Times of Israel. Not that you would have the wit to discern that.
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:07am
    - Swifty
      
      Pathetic.
      
      I clearly referenced you linking to Finklestein’s blog – which you did.
      
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      May 2, 2019 12:58pm
- mandk
  
  The world according to Morrisey: “Hamas are good guys and Islam is the religion of peace”.
  
  No, really.
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:32pm
  - Morrissey
    
    ????
    
    You are either clueless or simply dishonest.
    
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    May 2, 2019 4:16pm
secondcumming

BBC are reporting that Teressa May has sacked her Defense Minister over the *Huawei leak*.

Sources have been forced to say, “That any role by Huawei in building part of the 5G network will be ‘strictly limited’ …..because of concerns it could be used as a vehicle for Chinese spying”

*Huawei have categorically denied this*.
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May 2, 2019 10:10am
- Tall Man
  
  How can that be? A PM sacking a minister…. can they do that?
  
  Obviously not here though…..
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:27pm
Hugh Pavletich

Posted at … https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/links-2-may-2019/#comment-3339403

New Zealand: The bursting housing bubble …

Latest Realestate.co.nz figures show asking prices and new listings are easing while the total number of homes for sale is on the rise … Greg Ninness … Interest Co NZ

https://www.interest.co.nz/property/99445/latest-realestateconz-figures-show-asking-prices-and-new-listings-are-easing-while

People selling their homes in Auckland appear to be dropping their asking prices to meet the softer market conditions, according to the latest data from property website Realestate.co.nz.

The average asking price (non-seasonally adjusted) for Auckland properties that were newly listed on Realestate.co.nz in April was $904,479.

That means the average asking price has declined by $48,270 (-5.1%) since March and is down by a whopping $91,822 (-9.2%) since February. … read more via hyperlink above …
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The Kiwi dream: City-weary New Zealanders flock to the regions | Eleanor Ainge Roy| Cities | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/apr/24/the-kiwi-dream-city-weary-new-zealanders-flock-to-the-regions
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… The political direction is clear … essential reading …

New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat late March … New Zealand Government / Beehive

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat
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May 2, 2019 10:22am
- Happychappy
  
  About the tenth time you have pushed Twyfords speech , funny nothing on no paperwork when dealing developers over what they are passing off to the Government when it isn’t selling.
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:46am
  - artemisia
    
    Dr Hartwich of the NZ Initiative certainly praises Mr Twyford’s speech, as referred to by Mr Pavletich. Or was it his speechwriter, with Mr Twyford not exactly covering himself in glory — we assume —- when challenged by smart and experienced attendees. The final sentences from Dr Hartwich’s review —
    
    I would also like to report that the Minister was just as convincing and ambitious in the Q&A session as he was in his now released speech.
    Unfortunately, I am bound by Chatham House rules.
    
    nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/opinion/chatham-housing/
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:11am
    - Hugh Pavletich
      
      Artemesia … Many thanks …
      
      Don Brash praises Phil Twyford’s housing speech | Newshub
      
      https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2019/03/don-brash-praises-phil-twyford-s-housing-speech.html
      
      Oliver Hartwich says the rest of Phil Twyford’s housing policy is sufficiently ambitious and radical to solve NZ’s housing problems without recourse to KiwiBuild | interest.co.nz
      
      https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/98884/oliver-hartwich-says-rest-phil-twyfords-housing-policy-sufficiently-ambitious-and
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      … New Zealand Governments recent renewed focus on key structural issues to solve housing crisis … Housing Minister Phil Twyford explains …
      
      … The political direction is clear …
      
      New Zealaned Housing Minister Phil Twyfords speech to the New Zealand Initiative Members Retreat … New Zealand Government / Beehive
      
      https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/speech-nz-initiative-members%E2%80%99-retreat
      
      … extract …
      
      … In our view there are three big challenges that have to be addressed:
      
      1. A broken system for financing infrastructure
      
      2. A planning system based on urban containment
      
      3. The failure of governments until now, both local and central, to actively work with the private sector to enable urban growth and expansion.
      
      … concluding …
      
      … I talked about the land banking and speculative economy, and the pressure cooker that has given us some of the most obscenely expensive housing in the world.
      
      These moves are designed to change that. …
      
      … If we do these things we can truly flood the market with development opportunities. We can break the land banking economy, and drive down the cost of urban land.
      
      We can achieve more competitive urban land markets. And industry that is more focused on development and building places of enduring value instead of land banking and speculation.
      
      That is the pathway to more affordable housing, and a systemic fix of the crisis that has caused so much hardship, and sucked so much of our national wealth into residential property instead of the productive economy. … read more via hyperlink above …
      
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      May 2, 2019 1:26pm
  - Hugh Pavletich
    
    The February Update and the new 2019 sections at my archival website Performance Urban Planning http://www.PerformanceUrbanPlanning.org need to be read closely.
    
    The bubble days are well and truly over.
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:45am
    - Tall Man
      
      “Wolf…wolf…wolf”.
      
      Right, got it now fuck off FFS
      
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      May 2, 2019 1:29pm
      - Hugh Pavletich
        
        Tall Man … It appears the foreign buyers have been listening to you …
        
        Stats NZ says number of residential properties sold to overseas buyers plummeted in the March quarter after the foreign buyer ban came fully into place … David Hargreaves … Interest Co NZ
        
        https://www.interest.co.nz/property/99475/stats-nz-says-number-residential-properties-sold-overseas-buyers-plummeted-march
        .
        .
        Foreigners desert NZ housing market … Leith van Onselen … MacroBusiness Au (behind paywall)
        
        https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/foreigners-desert-nz-housing-market/
        
        By Leith van Onselen
        
        Statistics New Zealand has released new data on non-resident purchases of New Zealand homes, which reveals that demand has collapsed … read more via hyperlink above …
        .
        
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        May 2, 2019 3:14pm
rightoverlabour

Really good news!

“After conducting a safety review of the weed killer, the Environmental Protection Agency said in a statement Tuesday that “EPA continues to find that there are no risks to public health when glyphosate is used in accordance with its current label and that glyphosate is not a carcinogen.”

Whole bunch of weeds going to die this weekend….
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May 2, 2019 10:29am
- rangitoto
  
  Glysophate is so so. I find a mix of 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid and 2,4,5-trichlorophenoxyacetic acid is more effective.
  
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  May 2, 2019 11:56am
Maggy Wassilieff

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6101546/far-right-leader-who-tried-to-recruit-christchurch-shooter-warns-of-violence/?cs=14231
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May 2, 2019 10:29am
JibberJabber

Jeepers, I find myself in agreement with Martin/Martyn,
https://twitter.com/CitizenBomber/status/1123695454821277697

Maybe the world IS coming to an end……
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May 2, 2019 10:35am
- Tall Man
  
  Scary but possibly true.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:31pm
Maggie Pie

Todays Court ruling on Caster Semenya doesnt bode well for our very own gold medal prospect Laurel Hubbard.
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May 2, 2019 11:00am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I think Laurel Hubbard is stuffed.
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/112334560/transgender-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-fails-to-make-a-lift-at-arafura-games
  
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  May 2, 2019 11:21am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Goodness – I dont know what brand of makeup she uses but it certainly does nothing for her.
    
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    May 2, 2019 11:41am
  - Fletch
    
    So the guy can’t even beat women – oh dear. Best find a new profession.
    
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    May 2, 2019 12:11pm
  - howitis
    
    You might want to be careful how you use the word ‘stuffed’.
    Poor Gavin could not get the snatch right!
    
    Gavin simply looks like a balding middle aged man now.
    I wonder why that is?
    
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    May 2, 2019 12:13pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      You might want to be careful how you use the word ‘stuffed’.
      
      I am very careful..
      You will see that I have used it as a past participial adjective…standard colloquial use in NZ (often in sporting use).
      see Orsman, H. 1997: Dictionary of NZ English, p.790-791
      or McGill, D. 1988: A Dictionary of NZ Slang, p. 109.
      
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      May 2, 2019 3:34pm
- alien
  
  there are benefits to changing your gender
  
  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/change-gender-identification-insurance-alberta-1.4754416
  
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  May 2, 2019 12:14pm
- mandk
  
  To avoid confusion, I suggest that Hubbard’s name should be shown as Laurel Hubbard (XY).
  
  It would avoid questions over whether a “transsexual woman” is a man identifying as a woman, or a woman identifying as a man.
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:26pm
ducklin71

Can’t tell if that’s a he-she or a she-he. Never understood the whole “transtesticle” thing.
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May 2, 2019 11:34am
alloytoo

NZ Treasury boss Gabriel Makhlouf appointed to head Ireland’s central bank.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/news/nz-treasury-boss-gabriel-makhlouf-appointed-to-head-irelands-central-bank/ar-AAAM7Q1?ocid=spartanntp
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May 2, 2019 11:58am
- Tall Man
  
  He’s the guy we should have appointed instead of labour wannabe orr.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:35pm
  - JeffW
    
    Read croaking Cassandra to learn about this guys influence on the loss of economics skills within Treasury
    
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    May 2, 2019 2:50pm
Wired-one

Pike River re-entry has been delayed because of safety concerns. Risking lives to potentially collect bones is frankly unbelievable.
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May 2, 2019 1:00pm
- rangitoto
  
  Actually the plan doesn’t even go as far as entering the actual workings. Only the drift up to the rock fall.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:34pm
- Surely Knott
  
  Pike River re-entry delayed. Lol! You could not make this stuff up. Delayed is just like the working groups, it’s just a tactic to postpone bad news.
  FLIP FLOP UPDATE
  CGT for a fairer NZ – scrapped.
  TPPA No Way – signed.
  Pike River I’m going in first – not happening (I mean delayed ).
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:47pm
  - rangitoto
    
    The year of delivery.
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:59pm
- Overworked
  
  I can’t get rid of an uncomfortable feeling that the families have been cynically manipulated for political gain. I could be wrong, apologise if so, but if a political show wasn’t at the back of some Labour minds when the election circus was in full swing, I’ll be surprised.
  
  I don’t include the PM in this suspicion. She’s well intentioned, and just doesn’t have the required wattage.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:51pm
  - cmm
    
    No doubt more money will be found to pay another koha to them.
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:57pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    I can’t get rid of an uncomfortable feeling that the families have been cynically manipulated for political gain.
    
    Nuts.
    A few families have been involved with politicising this tragedy.
    
    Any mining family associated with Pike River would have been well aware of the risks and short-comings of the Project from Day 1.
    
    It was always a disaster waiting to happen.
    
    Labour have made capital from this tragedy for years… corpse-sucking ghouls.
    
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    May 2, 2019 2:09pm
    - Overworked
      
      I actually believe that if the families hadn’t been encouraged by people who stood to benefit politically, they would eventually have accepted the inevitable and by this stage be much more at peace.
      
      Cynical torture of vulnerable people.
      
      And Angry Andy has a hell of a brass neck, having been head of the union representing miners at the time. Why did the union not spot an inherently unsafe mine and move to protect their members? Not a peep that I recall seeing in the media (again, if wrong, apologise). The Clark govt was in power at the time.
      
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      May 2, 2019 3:30pm
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        No need to apologise.
        
        Andrew Little as Head of the EPMU was donkey-deep in this debacle from the beginning.
        
        https://nzagainstthecurrent.blogspot.com/2014/12/how-andrew-little-failed-pike-river.html
        
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        May 2, 2019 5:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

The Pike re-entry, scheduled for tomorrow, has been postponed and they don’t know for how long. Minister Little says it’s ‘not safe’.
Wind the clock back about three years and this is exactly the same conclusion National came to.
What has been achieved in the meantime other then the wasting of millions of dollars and the skewering of National by the media?
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May 2, 2019 1:05pm
- alien
  
  Article
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12227232
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:17pm
- cmm
  
  What has Winston “hold my beer” Peters got to say about this?
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:40pm
  - alien
    
    leave him alone, he’s sleeping
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:44pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  This was always going to be the likely outcome. Pike River mine is obviously still volatile and unstable, and God help the government if any person was injured or worse in a body recovery effort.
  
  The budget for the Pike River Re-entry Agency is around $35m; I guess today’s news will silence those who still bang on about John Key wasting $26m on the flag referendum, which incidentally, was also Labour Party policy in 2014.
  
  I suspect the delay will be lengthy now, and I predict there will come a time when Labour too accepts that Pike River will never be safe enough for human re-entry. Having raised the families’ expectations, Labour and NZF have made a rod for their own backs.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:43pm
  - Poppa
    
    In my opinion they never intended to go in, it is all a charade at one or two families expense.
    
    It was used for political purposes only & I hope the whole thing gets put in same pile as all the other crap they spouted during the election
    
    Remind me again how many houses have been built?
    
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    May 2, 2019 2:20pm
- stinkypete
  
  so they broke the seal and oxygen starts appearing in the drift leading to risk of combustion
  i dont see how they are going to remove this risk and have access without some sort of air lock
  paddy gower must be deflating like a old balloon he was all set for his golden look at me moment on TV3
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:01pm
- Micky
  
  Andrew Little: “here I sit broken hearted, paid 60 million and only farted”
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:59pm
Maggie Pie

“Say Cheese” 🙂

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1123743934029672448
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May 2, 2019 1:20pm
- Tall Man
  
  Name and shame.
  
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  May 2, 2019 1:37pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    If you clik on the twitter link it names him as:
    John Andrew Parahi, 56, electrician, from Rotovegas.
    
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    May 2, 2019 1:50pm
rightoverlabour

Bugger, I was going to supply Cigars…

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/112409587/pike-river-reentry-delayed-after-andrew-little-raises-safety-concerns
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May 2, 2019 1:35pm
ex-golfer

“The families of the 29 men who died at Pike River mine say they’re disappointed by a delay to the re-entry operation but accept safety must come first.”

Weird – they didn’t say this when the previous Government delayed re-entry due to safety concerns.

This is what happens when a disaster is politicized.

Sorry – but I am over these families. I have zero sympathy for them anymore. They have sucked this for everything and continue to do so. They are all now very wealthy people – they can pay for their own re-entry.
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May 2, 2019 2:17pm
- Wired-one
  
  In fairness it’s not all the families, many of them wanted their men left where they are.
  
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  May 2, 2019 2:59pm
- Prince
  
  Andrew Little is milking this for all its worth.
  Using the families (those gullible enough to follow him) for regular photo ops and ‘look at me, I’m a hero’ headlines.
  The MSM is still in thrall but at some stage, probably after they advance a few metres then return empty-handed, they might start to consider exactly how Labour have used this tragedy, and the families, to win a few extra votes.
  
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  May 2, 2019 8:18pm
stoptheboats

a mine that has blown up twice already, what a surprise – not.

could/should have been open cast and saved 29 lives but wasnt thanks to greenies
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May 2, 2019 2:21pm
softail 1450

Between bookings and watching the farce that is quetion time,if anybody wants to know what a total joke our parliament is just look at how the subtitles describe that POS Willie Jackson,”the honourable Willie Jackson” right there is how fucked up that place is ,that bludging arsewipe has been a racebaiting prick since he got booted out of school.
He’s so far in the trough all that can be seen are the laces on his $400.00 Nikes,and the people of Auckland will consider voting his equally bludging
mate Tamihere into running that place,,god help NZ….
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May 2, 2019 2:55pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  And did you notice during Qustion Time today softail, the rather fetching ‘bright pink’ number Paula was wearing when she stood to ask question number 8 in the house ? She must be feeling sooo proud of herself, it really showed off her perky new breasts – shes looking just fab.
  
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  May 2, 2019 3:35pm
softail 1450

LOL,Has anybody else noticed that MMA is slowly but surely working himself into taking over the hefty boots of Septicboy and Trev,his posts used to be quite well thought out and occasionally humorous but are becoming increasingly shrill and nonsensical.
I have just read some of his earlier posts and he reminds me somewhat of Juan Williams a leftie commentator on Fox news that has to come up with a way of countering good news from Trumps economy no matter what…..poor MMA…
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May 2, 2019 3:09pm
Rachael Membery

Respect Judith!!!
https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/388254/national-s-judith-collins-on-leader-simon-bridges-i-think-he-s-doing-well
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May 2, 2019 4:00pm
- All_on_Red
  
  She probably deserves to be Deputy PM though
  
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  May 2, 2019 5:00pm
  - UrbanNeocolonialist
    
    Absolutely, she’s a scathing and scrappy pit bull, which is useful and necessary to keep their opposition in check, but not best for the leader. Prebble was similar, Cullen too.
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:30pm
Morrissey

GROPERS
No. 71: Steve Dickson

Footage of Queensland One Nation leader Steve Dickson during an alcohol-fuelled strip club romp, in which he groped a stripper and made offensive comments, has shocked Pauline Hanson. The One Nation boss told voters they deserve better after the video of Mr Dickson cavorting with dancers at a Washington DC strip club last year was aired by Nine Network. During the dark and grainy recording, Mr Dickson is heard saying “now that young lady has got a wonderful set of cahoonas”, “I’ve done more Asian than I know what to do with”, and “white women f… a whole lot better, they know what they are doing”.

Mr Dickson, who was also a Senate candidate, resigned as soon as footage of his x-rated antics was broadcast on Monday night.

Senator Hanson said Mr Dickson’s language and behaviour had failed to live up to her expectations and those of voters. “I am both shocked and disappointed at the vision I forced myself to watch,” she told reporters yesterday.

In a statement issued on Tuesday, Dickson said he was drunk that night and “deeply remorseful” for his actions. “I would like to sincerely apologise for my behaviour that was aired on television last night as a result of the Al Jazeera covert operation filmed in the United States in September 2018,” he said. “The footage shown does not reflect the person I am. It shows a person who was drunk and not in control of his actions and I take full responsibility for allowing that to happen.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/112364283/one-nations-pauline-hanson-breaks-down-on-australian-radio-over-strip-club-betrayal
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/pauline-hanson-absolutely-devastated-following-us-strip-club-scandal

“GROPERS” is presented by GroperWatch®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.

Seventy more Gropers HERE….
https://morrisseybreen.blogspot.com/2019/05/gropers-no-71-steve-dickson-may-2-2019.html
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May 2, 2019 4:35pm
- Batman
  
  So you’re basically wanting free advertising for your weird blog?
  
  Whatever mate.
  
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  May 2, 2019 4:49pm
  - Morrissey
    
    You’re a Steve Dickson supporter then, Batts?
    
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    May 2, 2019 4:59pm
    - Batman
      
      More a supporter of people paying to advertise their blog rather than leeching off others’ blogs.
      
      It’s a capitalist thing, you see.
      
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      May 2, 2019 5:21pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Bad manners too
        You shouldn’t really bludge off the host
        
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        May 2, 2019 6:16pm
Morrissey

Message to a Criminal from the People of Venezuela

https://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Trump-not-today.jpg
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May 2, 2019 4:52pm
- Batman
  
  I doubt that any of the people scavenging for food, or lying in pain in a hospital with no power or medicine, or holding their sick and dying child in their arms who can’t be saved, really give a shit about Trump conspiracy theories.
  
  I doubt this well-fed looking party loyalist from the nice parts of town (because that’s what she will be) is really in a position to be defending a regime that literally ran down protestors with an armoured personnel carrier yesterday.
  
  Get out of here you despicable person, Morrissey Breen.
  
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  May 2, 2019 5:18pm
  - Morrissey
    
    ….scavenging for food, or lying in pain in a hospital with no power or medicine….
    
    Thanks to illegal U.S. “sanctions.”
    
    https://www.democracynow.org/2019/5/1/economist_jeffrey_sachs_us_sanctions_have
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:20pm
    - Batman
      
      You guys love that excuse, and not the crippling internal price controls and restrictions which mean the economy has ground to a halt.
      
      I also notice that your mate Maduro the murderer wouldn’t allow in food and medicine aid. I thought you leftist socialists were supposed to care about people??
      
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      May 2, 2019 5:25pm
  - Morrissey
    
    She, unlike you, is aware of what the U.S. does to other countries….
    
    https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/25/navy_seals_tried_for_months_to
    
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    May 2, 2019 5:25pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      Heh, supports Maduro but then links to a website called ‘Democracy now’
      
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      May 2, 2019 6:13pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Surely you are going to refute the alleged facts of the SEAL case. So far as I can tell, you never read of an american or English war crime that you couldn’t explain away.
        
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        May 2, 2019 8:18pm
    - nasska
      
      Please accept your participation trophy & go home. 🙂
      
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      May 2, 2019 6:20pm
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        Shit that Breen is a head case is he not?
        Why does he choose to live in a country that embraces individual rights and free speech (at the moment)?
        
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        May 2, 2019 8:10pm
unaha-closp

In Winston Peters related news, NZ now has the highest rate of immigration ever.
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May 2, 2019 5:13pm
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Wow, over 9400 in one month, 8800 the month before. In 2 months massively exceeding the yearly NZF election promise “10000”, and Labour election promise “20-30000”) in just 3-4 months. Really are useless aren’t they?
  https://www.stats.govt.nz/topics/migration
  
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  May 2, 2019 10:42pm
rightoverlabour

Is the one they want to deport in the picture?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics
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May 2, 2019 7:02pm
dcrown

Rep. Ilhan Omar is an absolute disgrace. She is now proudly anti-American as well as anti-Semitic. Blaming the USA for unelected ‘President’ Maduro killing his own people is disgusting and a new low even for her. She has no right serving in congress. If she hates America so much give her a one-way ticket to Venezuela, no one is forcing her to stay in a country she hates. Better yet, deport her, simple.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/01/rep-ilhan-omar-united-states-bullying-led-to-collapse-of-socialist-venezuela/
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