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CJames

JC has really shown the CoL up as useless do-nothings, hasn’t she. Labour’s latest brainstorm for infrastructure development to counter this isn’t anything useful like roads or hospitals. It is getting rid of thermal power stations!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300066128/government-wants-100-per-cent-green-electricity-by-adding-battery-power-to-hydro-power
Note how they are not going to actually build it. They are only going to waste $30M of your money doing an investigation – yet another committee. No doubt the committee will be superannuated Labour hacks and a few academics, along with a token woman and Maori. There will be no-one who actually knows how things work.
Pumped Storage plants don’t make power. They only store power generated earlier and re-generate it when needed with a 20% loss. Look up Dinorwig on the interweb to know what they are like. They were developed to make use of the baseload power nukes and large coal stations generated at night by using it during the daiy peaks. Buy cheap, sell dear.
In NZ, thermal stations currently generate about 8000GWh a year, up to 1500MW during the peaks. This generation is mostly in the winter. (As a comparison, the “giant” Tesla battery in Australia is only 120MWh and that cost $200M). There will need to be 10,000GWh p.a. of windfarm generation to replace it. That is about 25 farms the size of the one being built at Waverley. So how much will that cost? The farms will be unprofitable selling cheap night-time power so will need more subsidies to generate.
They will also need to build a new double circuit 400kV transmission line, the size of the Whakamaru to Auckland one, all the way from Roxburgh to Huntly with an extra Cook Strait cable sytem. This is in addition to a smaller one from Manapouri to Auckland so that power can be used. There will also be all the transmission lines to hook up the windfarms.
As windfarms can’t ever be relied on to generate (often all the farms currently in the country produce no power on frosty nights like this morning when the power is most needed) so the plant will need to be 1500MW size. They will dewater Lake Roxburgh when pumping, so the Clutha will run dry, then flood the river at full load. The weight of water in the new lake will probably cause landslips into it, as well as reactivate underlying faults. The height of water in the lake will vary so much it can’t be used for recreation.
And all of the above infrastructure costs will need to be paid for by the power user. It is why industry is deserting places with high costs. And why energy poverty is a real issue in Europe and South Australia.
Now I have shown it is a stupid idea, can I put in a claim for $29M? – I will give a discount
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July 27, 2020 8:00am
- RW Capitalist
  
  Yup, saw Megan Woods promoting their “pumped storage” idea.
  $30mill to investigate an idea that any 15 year old physics student could tell you (inside 10 minutes) will be an expensive white elephant.
  We still teach kids that perpetual motion machines don’t work, don’t we?
  Massively expensive to build this loss (in electrical potential and money) making fairy tale.
  The other thing Megan…since you estimated the cost in billions….how many $100’s of millions to run and maintain it?
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:11am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    With a generating capacity of 540 megawatts (720,000 hp), Benmore Power Station is the second largest [1] hydro station in New Zealand behind Manapouri, and the largest dam in the country.
    From 2008 to 2010 the six turbines are being refurbished at a cost of $67 million. This will enable a 6% reduction in water use for the same generation capacity, increasing annual generation by 70 GWh (250 TJ). New switchboards and an upgrade to the switchyard are also planned.[2]
    
    This was:
    1. 10 yrs ago (inflation till completion date in 2028?)
    2. Only 6 turbines
    3. Only water flow in one direction.
    Add in pumps etc to raise the water to the higher lake, will at least double this part of the maintenance cost.
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:32am
  - mandk
    
    It could work if we had nuclear powered base load.
    The Greens would love it, wouldn’t they? No CO2.
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:43am
  - Paulus
    
    Don’t knock the next Labour Deputy and potential Leader when the other one goes next year.
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:37am
  - The Proper Ghandi
    
    RW Capitalist
    “It’ll work this time!”
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:20am
    - RW Capitalist
      
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQBzjE-kvI
      Just “swish and flick”.
      
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      July 27, 2020 11:52am
- krazykiwi
  
  We truly live in a post-science world, one where not one jot of your sensible analysis counts for anything.
  
  This CoL brain-fart is nothing more than a vote appeasement lunge, dutifully distributed without question by their paid messengers, the New Zealand media.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:12am
- Chris R
  
  Thank you. A very worthwhile post to read.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:15am
- kowtow
  
  It’s a long way from where it’s needed and a lot of power will be lost sending it to Auckland.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:21am
- Yvette
  
  James: a smaller one [transmission line] from Manapouri to Auckland so that power can be used
  
  Would it not be smarter to use Manapouri to pump the off-peak water back into one of the three big South Island damns – Aviemore, Clyde, Benmore, Ahau A or B.
  
  See there is an alternative already, and Phil Twyford only needs one more opposing idea and he won’t have a fucking clue what to do and another Labour starship policy will hit the stardust, or in this case, be blown out of the water.
  
  Houses, trees, light rail, roads, ports, why not damns
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:27am
  - RW Capitalist
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucmwC08H9M
    Because damn.
    Maybe Megan has used a “standard issue Nuerolizer” and thinks she has wiped everyone’s knoledge of basic physics?
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:36am
- peterwn
  
  You beat me to it! I will add:
  1. The existing hydro stations already perform a ‘battery’ function both with respect to absorbing peak loads and counteracting the up’s and down’s of wind power etc. They were designed assuming a ‘load factor’ of about 55%, to allow for peak loads, maintenance shutdowns etc. While there will be a point where hydro stations can no longer absorb wind power variations, the time has yet to come. Building a pumped storage scheme earlier than actually needed means the asset is effectively idle for the time being, but someone needs to pay the cost.
  2. Pumped storage has been considered in the past, but it was considered more effective to simply build a new hydro station which effectively has the desired storage capacity. That is you virtually get two projects for the price of one.
  3. Otago seems a dumb place to build a pumped storage scheme since it is sitting near the source of surplus power when the smelter is closed and will not benefit the transmission network. A North Island location would seem far better since it would enable best use to be made of existing transmission between Manapouri and North Island (existing 220kV with some reinforcement Manapouri to Benmore and HVDC Benmore to Haywards, Hutt Valley).
  3. Consenting the scheme would be well nigh impossible unless the Government is prepared to ram through special legislation. However the latest Colmar Brunton poll (if accurate) shows Labour would have the numbers without the pesky Greens or NZF to pass such legislation.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:32am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “…but someone needs to pay the cost.”
    
    Precisely that. Spending billions to create “cheaper electricity” demonstrates not only their complete lack of understanding about physics, but about economics too.
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:24am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      It is all being driven by the stupid obsession with zero carbon. New Zealanders will end up like the Greeks. They thought everything was fine until they got up one day in 2008 and discovered the banks were shut and the ATMs were not working.
      
      Could that happen here? Of course. Indeed it will unless we get a half decent government.
      
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      July 27, 2020 12:16pm
    - RJL
      
      But the “billions” aren’t set on fire. They are pumped into the local economy.
      
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      July 27, 2020 12:56pm
      - peterwn
        
        This is similar to what Hugh Watt – Labour Minister of Works and his Ministry did in 1957. They wanted a nice big juicy ‘works’ to keep people employed etc, etc. So he pushed back the Cook Strait cable scheme (he liked to believe it was not going to work and hired external consultants to confirm that – which they did not) and promoted Maraetai 2 Power Station which was at that time of limited use since it would not actually produce any extra electricity (it was more about improved operating flexibility). It was such a turkey at the time that when Labour were kicked out in 1960 the project was mothballed for some years and the Cook Strait Cable Scheme re-started.
        So we are getting the same again – a turkey project being promoted as it would create jobs, etc, etc.
        
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        July 27, 2020 2:36pm
  - rangitoto
    
    Raise lake Taupo by 20 meters.
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:52am
    - kowtow
      
      The caldera blowing would evaporate it .
      
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      July 27, 2020 1:33pm
    - peterwn
      
      Raising Manapouri (as originally intended) would be less environmentally damaging than raising Lake Taupo.
      
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      July 27, 2020 2:38pm
  - alloytoo
    
    I’m getting increasing frustrated with having to explain to people that Hydro dams are bloody batteries, and that they can run flat.
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:38am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Here’s Prof Bardsley’s version of the scheme
  https://medium.com/land-buildings-identity-and-values/pumped-hydro-update-ec4538cbdb87
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:47am
  - rockape
    
    Seems to be a lack of costings in that paper. Anything is achievable if you don’t need to consider costs!
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:59am
- Antoine
  
  How can a feasibility study cost $30m???
  
  A.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:50am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    Iwi liaison.
    
    Do you have another question?
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:02am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Who knows?
    
    Here’s a recent PhD on the proposed project….
    “Evaluating the potential for a multi-use seasonal pumped storage scheme in New Zealand’s South Island”
    https://researchcommons.waikato.ac.nz/handle/10289/12423
    
    I seriously doubt that even $30,000 came the way of the researcher…
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:06am
    - CJames
      
      Notice who the supervisor for the PhD was. The person who came up with the original idea. Not much independence there.
      
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      July 27, 2020 4:42pm
  - RJL
    
    Because it will encompass a significant amount of design work. Need to pay the salaries of the design engineers.
    
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    July 27, 2020 12:15pm
    - Antoine
      
      Cant we start with a 30k desktop study to see whether the project is _economically_ feasible?
      
      A.
      
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      July 27, 2020 2:35pm
      - RJL
        
        Need to design it to know how much it will cost.
        
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        July 28, 2020 11:00am
- DeepBlue
  
  Oh, we forgot all about Wood’s wind farm production… What was that promise again? 2 or 4 per year.
  
  So much material for National, but it seems (for now until 20 September) the only story is ‘save us from Covid’ and not the economy.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:34am
- Australis
  
  With water storage available only from Lakes Hawea and Tekapo, we have been vulnerable to brown-outs in dry years for the last 60 years.
  
  But there is huge storage in Manapouri-Te Anau. So the ICCC argument for Lake Onslow was blown away once the Tiwai Point smelter announced its closure.
  
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  July 27, 2020 7:03pm
  - CJames
    
    No Australis, the main water storage is Pukaki (about half NZs total). Te Anau and Manapouri combined have less GWh storage as Taupo and only a bit more than Hawea.
    The problem is that all the lakes fill in similar direction wind driven rainstorms. So they all dry out together if those winds don’t come.
    
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    July 27, 2020 7:45pm
The Boss

Did Tova have an orgasm on live TV last night?
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July 27, 2020 8:02am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Someone got lucky when she got home last night, or all those videos of pizza delivery boys are true . . .
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:22am
  - Inandout
    
    PG, have you ever seen a female pizza delivery person, just wondering why?
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:29am
- Maggie Pie
  
  Did Megan Woods perform an impromptu poll dance?
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:41am
Classic Liberal

Green Shane on red radio this morning explaining why ‘tax is love’. He admires the tax rates of 60c+ in Denmark.

Will Labour take on the greens’ wealth tax and higher top rates? Anyone who has bothered to work, save and invest will be stuffed.
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July 27, 2020 8:04am
- Surely Knott
  
  Denmark is not great because of tax. Denmark is rich because of oil and nor are they the great green country – their ecological footprint per capita is worse than the US, they burn lots of coal, drive lots, have the worlds largest shipping company, and the regions largest airhub. They are quite socialist but have the regions worst rates of cancer, violence against women, and education record according to washington post.
  
  “And there is broad consensus that the economic model of a public sector and welfare state on this scale is unsustainable. The Danes’ dirty secret is that its public sector has been propped up by — now dwindling — oil revenues.”
  
  “https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/03/why-denmark-isnt-the-utopian-fantasy-bernie-sanders-describes/
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:36am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Love your taxpayers, they are all we have to pay for the rest of is. Encourage them to produce.
  
  Envy taxes (45%+) don’t work they just encourage avoidance. Tell someone that you wan’t controls over anything to do with their money and they will fret and scheme to avoid them–NZF Foundation?
  NZ’s present tax regime is reasonable by world standards.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:48am
- tf78
  
  “tax is love” was uttered by none other than Alexandria Ortasia Cortez.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:35am
Simon

National party eh? They couldn’t handle 1% of the 24/7 shit thrown at Trump.

Smug National party types smearing Trump their party got dismantled inside of 10 minutes by the woke left, Ardern, and her MSM.

Fight back for fucks sake. You are supposed to be the party in opposition. The [Deleted – Mod] Ardern has cratered NZ. Suck it up and learn something from Trump.
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July 27, 2020 8:17am
- Classic Liberal
  
  I’ve met virtually no one in NZ who is prepared to even compare Trump’s actual words to the msm misquotes. All my friends assume everyone is automatically against Trump. I’ve lost friends for defending him and pointing out that the msm lies.
  
  So fighting back needs to be subtle and never attack St Jacinda. So far I think Collins and Brownlee are taking the right line: calm, positive, businesslike.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:29am
  - fernglas
    
    I think a lot of the problems come from his words having to be translated into english before they are published in the MSM.
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:14am
    - IC5000
      
      Even then I have problems. I think it’s a matter of determining their intent.
      
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      July 27, 2020 6:32pm
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Cratered? Created perhaps?
  
  No more than being 40+ is ‘yoff adjacent’ or 300 is anywhere near 100,000, a billion is 1 and nine 0’s while the nephs remain on the settee, child poverde has been reduced.
  
  One thing that will need to be catered for, is the 1,700,000 out of the 2,400,000 New Zealanders in the workforce who will loose their wage support on Sept 01st.
  
  No to early voting!
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:29am
- peterwn
  
  Trump seems to be on the way out. It needs to be remembered that Labour has had two extraordinary pieces of good luck. Without that, Jacinda would be really struggling.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:34am
G152

Latest poll is a con.
Fake news.
The media have been ‘massaging’ data from polls since they started polling
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July 27, 2020 8:21am
- MT_Tinman
  
  Latest poll is a con.
  
  I wouldn’t say that – although I do find it encouraging that approx 25% of Labour Party members say would vote for National.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:27am
  - Paulus
    
    Cannot understand how at last election over 45% of the voters voted National and that 20% have now defected to Labour.
    Doesn’t make sense.
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:41am
    - Isobar
      
      Look at the leadership spills, lack of policies (other than roads) and loss of talent then look again.
      
      Makes perfect sense to me.
      
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      July 27, 2020 10:58am
      - Benedict Yu
        
        There is no point in having “policies” if they are all crazy and wealth destroying. I am unaware of a single policy of this government that is not either wealth destroying or a vile waste of money or both. Happy for you to cite an example.
        
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        July 27, 2020 12:57pm
- kowtow
  
  Sadly I suspect not .
  
  Ardern always enjoyed a poll jump when she was cast by the Media Pardy after certain events as sympathetic etc
  
  But National tended to come back to that base 40 % which they achieved at the last GE .
  
  That all changed with Wuflu .
  
  The International Media Pardy have waged a relentless fear campaign that has literally scared an awful lot of people witless. St Jacinda of the Plague has been the Icon of this movement and now her party benefits.
  
  The disarray in National has fed this . It was a mistake by the Nats to panic and roll Bridges and Co. That made a bad situation worse.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:43am
- MCos
  
  I presume you are a National supporter.
  Don’t whine about the polls, which may well have the numbers wrong, but clearly not the sentiment.
  Demand that your leaders do better.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:52am
  - IC5000
    
    > Demand that your leaders do better.
    
    Who is up next?
    
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    July 27, 2020 6:33pm
- SGA
  
  @G152
  
  Latest poll is a con.
  Fake news.
  
  “con”, “fake” – probably not – more likely just one of those things that happens in polling sometimes. That said, even if that poll is more extreme than it should be, it’s likely that Labour is well in front. DPF made the following comment yesterday –
  
  I’m just sad political betting is illegal in NZ as I’d love to bet against Labour getting over 50% at the election, and make lots of money.
  
  and the “getting over 50%” seems to indicate that he thinks they are sitting comfortably.
  
  Of course, Labour doesn’t need to get over 50% on election night to get over 50% of the seats. If 10%-12% (say) of people vote Greens, NZF, Maori Party, and all other bits and pieces, and most or none of those cross the threshold (so get removed from the equation), then even mid to high 40’s on election night could lead to a majority of seats (pretty sure it works that way – someone correct me if I am wrong).
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:15am
  - Scooter
    
    Might be Labour’s undoing, people may not bother to vote if people think Labour is a shoo-in.
    
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    July 27, 2020 8:21pm
- sharont
  
  I am amazed at the panic among some National supporters. In recent years polls have been wrong – think Hillary Clinton, think Brexit, think Scott Morrison, think Boris Johnson. Everything is controlled by the left. We know their aim is to suppress voting. Taking the opposite view of every poll I have been correct in every instance but I must say that Boris Johnson’s landslide was better than I thought it would be. Don’t panic peeps.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:55am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Good on you. If Collins and Brownlee can continue calmly and sensibly talking about policies for rebuilding, insisting that the msm quote them correctly (both have stood up against pushy, lying interviewers), they still have a chance.
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:17am
Monique Watson

Happy Monday. I don’t have Covid. In the last week I went for both tests. The antiral RNA Test Shipped to Arizona took 7 days. The Abbot test took 15 minutes. Happy with the current testing rate here in the US. Despite Woke media reports.
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July 27, 2020 8:28am
- fernglas
  
  Bolsonaro has tested negative now. He’s still alive and kicking. He was right.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:34am
JibberJabber

Newshrub proving only exceptionally slow learners are accepted into Journalism “school” here in NZ and it’s only the slowest of the slow that get the sought after Diploma.
They give fake news a bad name.
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July 27, 2020 8:33am
Happychappy

Remember last Election when Paddy Gower had Labour leading National in one his polls and One news Colmar having Labour winning.in one or two of their polls, well how can you count on either of these polls being correct, I think DPF has correct in saying for one or two more polls before you write off National.
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July 27, 2020 8:36am
- KevO'Brien
  
  In the present bitchy climate no one is going to admit to a pollster that they will vote against Queen Ardern.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:41am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    Could become hate speech next year…
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:18am
- Nickc2
  
  As some know everything about nothing radio shock jock said this morning, “polls are just there to give MSM journalists something to write about”. In other words, they don’t indicate jack-shit. Remember, polls said Hillary would win hands down in the US and Bill Shorten would shit in during the last Australian election. If my memory serves me correctly, polls also indicated Borris Johnson wouldn’t win. Well, surprise surprise, polls and MSM journalists were all aghast when things didn’t go according to the polls, their scribblings and verbal diarrhoea rantings. Tova, Jessica, Katty, John Campbell, Jack Tame and others, take note. Your self-indulgent opinion pieces are not worth squat.
  
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  July 27, 2020 2:40pm
Maggie Pie

Heard Green Party co-leader James Shaw on ZB yesterday farewelling Gareth Hughes. Waxed lyrical about some of Gareth’s achievements while an MP.
As well as holding a degree in religious studies, Hughsie supported the move for NZ to become a Republic, voted in favor of same sex marriage, and chained himself to the gates of McD’s dressed as clown Ronald McDonald, to protest the use of GM chicken feed.
Following his retirement from Parliament, Shaw said Gareth will take up the role as manager of St Martin’s lodge on ‘Quarantine Island’, in Otago Harbour. Described as providing visitor accommodation which is ‘,,,,basic but comfortable’ the lodge also boasts compostable toilets. Now that may well be okay for Gareth, he’s Vegan. But I doubt me and my partner would be welcome as guests 😀

https://quarantineisland.org.nz/index.php/about-us/st-martin-lodge/
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July 27, 2020 8:37am
- pdm
  
  Why chain himself to McDonalds to protest GM Chicken Feed. Wouldn’t it mak more sense to chain himself to KFC.
  
  That is the Greens for you.
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:50am
  - Tauhei Notts
    
    You obviously do not know what the abbreviation KFC stands for. If you want the Maori vote you must not hold a protest outside a Kai For Cuzzies shop.
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:19am
  - SGA
    
    He cuts a more dashing Ronald McDonald than Colonel Sanders, perhaps? 🙂
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:22am
    - sooty
      
      He’s too young to be a Colonel, plus he’s stuupid!
      
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      July 27, 2020 11:10am
Simon

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$31 billion extra spend to fix John Key’s / National’s open doors immigration fuck up went down like a cup of cold sick.
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July 27, 2020 8:38am
- Classic Liberal
  
  National under Key needed to keep emphasising the difference between kiwis returning when our economy was humming nicely, and a strict and limited immigration policy.
  
  That didn’t happen and the msm jumped on the opportunity to bash National endlessly with homelessness.
  
  I hope Judith comes up with a very strong policy for limiting immigration to only the people we really need and keeping our population small.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:01am
  - IC5000
    
    > I hope Judith comes up with a very strong policy for limiting immigration to only the people we really need and keeping our population small.
    
    Have you been sleeping under a rock for the past 10 years? This is the trick that governments of all persuasions have been playing on you. Dial up immigration which leads to increases in GDP (yay rockstar economy) while kiwis income per capita remains stagnant Which leads to lower wages because of the greater supply of labour (because most kiwis are lazy of course) and overused infrastructure. Why the hell would Collins with her neoliberal baggage offer anything other than this stab in the back policy?
    
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    July 27, 2020 9:48pm
Durden

The Behrouz Boochani case. Still want to claim NZ is not elitist and corrupt ?

The enablers of this shameless refugee queue-jumping by a fake, hyped up scribbler is a kick in the teeth for normal NZers (who genuinely favour refugee re-settlement) and all those other genuine refugees who are still waiting in the queue.

The wet-panty luvvies from the Canterbury University, the Labour Mayor of Christchurch (and no doubt others of similar ilk), Amnesty International, the organiser of the Christchurch Literary Festival, activist Donna “big bomb” MOAB , Golriz G etc love their “one rule for ours and different for the others” stance.

The Canterbury university’s Te Maire Tau enabled her own academic and job-seeker queue jump by promising and then giving him a job.

Boochani, and his enablers lied about his intentions when he applied for the visa. Grounds for repatriation – plain and simple.

Ardern’s statement defending the corruption involved in this with “I’m not going to act outside of the law,” she said. “But I will call out a statement which I think questions the integrity of our immigration system, which is very robust in New Zealand, and indeed the integrity of parliamentarians, as wrong.” conveniently provides zero justification for the decision.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/new-zealand-denies-behrouz-boochani-benefited-from-politicised-process-in-asylum-bid

And then of course this show pony queue jumper says the fellation he receives is kindness and any objections are “hate speech”.

Wonder what Winston Peters’ excuse is this time?

Which part of this story is not elitist and not corrupt ? These enablers spit in the face of the common NZ public.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/15/behrouz-boochani-calls-christchurch-welcome-a-reminder-of-kindness
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July 27, 2020 8:40am
- lifesgood
  
  They keep saying he is “an award winning writer” Well, as a voracious reader I have read many award winning books and to be absolutely candid they are usually pretentious crap.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:28am
  - hullkiwi
    
    He wrote hos “award” winning book on a mobile phone, while in detention in PNG received 2 awards in Australia.
    
    Given his situation in a detention camp in PNG, you have to question his access to a phone and ability to forward copy to an editor. If you know PNG, this was a “remarkable” almost “unbelievable” effort in itself.
    
    Once again the truth will not equate with the narrative!
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:30am
    - sooty
      
      He’s bloody lucky that labour gave him a free pass in the dying days of this government!
      
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      July 27, 2020 11:12am
- Frank Thomas
  
  St Jacinda of the Pestilence obviously got ILG to do her dirty work for her by granting him a visitor visa. Immigration officials would have passed it up to him to get the OK. This hopefully will be another scandle to blow up in the CoL’s collective faces…… watch this space people……
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:36am
Don Beckett

Aren’t the Americans in Democrat run states and cities lucky – Tony Heller tells us of all the ‘fun’ passtimes they can indulge in while the sham lockdowns and cancel culture dominate.

[Edited by Mod to remove personal link]
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July 27, 2020 8:43am
- Don Beckett
  
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  July 27, 2020 8:48am
hullkiwi

The narrative is everything and the truth is an inconvenience….
1. There is no community transmission in NZ, and all identified cases of Covid19 in NZ are in managed isolation, or are they? South Korea reports an arriving passenger from NZ on Friday tested positive for Covid19. NZ Health Authorities are wanting details.

2. During the weekend 5 members of the same family absconded from a managed facility in Hamilton, why to see a dead relative. Some in the media tried to suggest these people were heroes and the family themselves claimed they were healthy because their day 3 test was negative. Well let’s see, they came from Audtralia they haven’t done a day 12 test and we all know the problems that occured last month with the 2 sisters.
Despite no “public community” cases of Covid, NZ is doing it tough. Saying these people are heroes is offensive to those of us who lost loved ones during Level4 (I will not go in to detail suffice to say my father died on 28/03 – not covid related).
3. Then we get the rogue poll, even Jacinda on RNZ this morning distanced herself from claiming the result was accurate.

All 3 stories show we are bombarded daily with stories that have an element of truth, but the real truth is inconvenience to the narrative, we the sheeple are fed!
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July 27, 2020 8:45am
- Paulus
  
  They were under the Taniwha Protection of the Maori Wardens so it’s all right Judge.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:46am
Don Beckett

Aren’t the Americans in Democrat run states and cities lucky – Tony Heller tells us of all the ‘fun’ passtimes they can indulge in while the sham lockdowns and cancel culture dominate.

https://realclimatescience.com/2020/07/new-video-things-to-do-this-weekend/
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July 27, 2020 8:46am
Fletch

Hosking on NewsTalkZB this morning,

“It’s what I’ve always said about the Greens. The Greens would actually do well if they stopped being Communists and started being conservationists”

So true ?
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July 27, 2020 8:48am
- JackRabbit
  
  If the Greens stopped being Communists there would be no Greens party.
  
  The Greens have never put forward any positive viable conservation ideas or carried out any positive conservation activities that was not already in place or put forward by ‘non-conservationists’.
  
  James Shaw has not yet figured out that:
  a) Hydro Electricity still remains an endless supply of power and is a renewable resource. Trying to add water pumps or Death Star sized battery banks is ludicrous. James Shaw is trying to re-invent the (water) wheel.
  
  b) Getting rid of fossil based fuels will not happen until someone discovers a source of renewable universal energy. That will happen through invention, innovation, and bringing a viable solution to market. Not through conservation.
  
  The only way you innovate and effect change is to be in that industry and fund your inventive and innovative ideas. No-one in history has ever invented anything by demonstrating in the street with placards. No-one has ever built a better mousetrap by being a continual broken record.
  
  The answer to powering electric cars is never going to occur by banning fossil fuels, which in any case are required to keep society going while solutions are found.
  
  James Shaw and Co want to be leaders in renewable energy. My advice is for them to quit politics and live in the real world. Put their ideas to the test, with self funding or funding from venture capitalists who see merit in the idea. Don’t try and re-invent the wheel with a taxpayer funded spend fest.
  
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  July 27, 2020 1:42pm
Maggie Pie

Is Countdown’s Kiri Hannifin a plastic Obsessive-Compulsive?

Asking for a friend.
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July 27, 2020 8:53am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, our local Coutdown has acres of plastic wrapping and containers. Go to an independent butcher and your meat will be wrapped in brown paper, or a baker’s bread in paper.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:05am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Meat wrapping in plastic may be a trade hygiene matter. Those filmy plastic covering can be supplied to the packers pre-treated with oregano oil to counter product spoilage.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:47am
- Durden
  
  Why is Kiri Hannifin a darling for the media ? Just like the other “independent” spokesperson Labour used — Dr Ayesha Verral, this one is a social justice warrior and advisor to the 5th Labour Government. A friendly face and voice always available is quickdial that hides deep Labour contacts.
  
  And also a long term trougher with various NGOs. Oops… I mean is part of a “Public Affairs and Campaign company” as considered important enough to be noted by our own DPF.
  
  https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2015/02/hannifin_de_joux_partners_with_crosby_textor.html
  
  On a side note National’s elections chief of staff for the last election they lost — Jo de Joux, seems to be organised to have her bread buttered both sides.
  
  Here is Kiri is taking a potshot at John Key and the National government.
  https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/09/03/guest-blog-kiri-hannifin-make-domestic-violence-an-election-issue/
  
  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kiri-hannifin-b898365a/?originalSubdomain=nz
  
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  July 27, 2020 12:21pm
Tony Stuart

It’s interesting that of the 1000 people “polled” by Newshub for last night’s result, 300 were members of a self-selecting internet panel. Perhaps DPF could comment over whether this is likely to skew the Reid Research/Newshub poll in any particular direction.
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July 27, 2020 9:00am
- bruceavon
  
  Yes. I would be interested to know how it has changed. Historically the TV3 Reid poll has been the most accurate, in the last two elections. They almost got the result the last time exactly right. But Colmar changed their methods a lot about a year ago and Reid changed theirs a bit too.
  Using land lines must be a complete joke these days. The chance you will talk to someone under 60 very remote. I generally think blaming polls you don’t like the results of, is denial. But this seems wildly out to me. Mind you it was during the whole Falloon debacle. Hard to know what National can do.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:40am
  - sooty
    
    300 member internet panel, read party members.
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:15am
- Bullion
  
  It’s not self selecting – the respondents are randomly polled.
  
  There will also be quotas (age, sex, location, etc.) limiting responses so sample is roughly nationally representative.
  
  Though there are potentially some biases being on a panel – having the time, any incentive from being on the panel etc. might skew who joins the panel and participates in its surveys. There will be other questions to test the make up of the respondents, household income, employment, number of people in the house etc. which pollsters can look at to further make the sample more representative.
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:24am
Inandout

After Boocher’s success at staying here, will the Tarrant Trial Tourists entry to NZ be a breeze?
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July 27, 2020 9:01am
- RJ
  
  Why would it, some of these people coming over are people who were injured here and went home to their own country, not remaining in New Zealand.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:59am
Happychappy

Former Labour Party President Mike William’s describes the SFO as trigger happy after they have started a investigation into Labour donations in 2017.
This from a ex President of Labour who like Michelle Boag has to much to say on NZ Politics especially being one of the first caught out in dirty politics when he and Pete Hodgson made a special trip to Australia in the early 2000 to dig dirt on John Key.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/122149694/the-serious-fraud-office-trigger-happy-or-a-straight-shooter
It is time for our biased , politically corrupt media to source comment from people that have no party ties and interested in the truth and facts instead of past their due date and out of there depth hacks like Michelle Boag and Mike fatboy William’s.
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July 27, 2020 9:18am
Wired-one

Labour were polling over 50% before the last election and received 37% of the vote on the night. Let’s stop the pessimism people and all get out and vote. Anything can happen on the night.
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July 27, 2020 9:19am
- RJ
  
  Exactly. People have become stupid, worrying at the drop of the hat instead of having confidence in national.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:57am
- Bullion
  
  Not one poll between 2014 and the election in 2017 had Labour over 50%:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2017_New_Zealand_general_election#Individual_polls
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:27am
Maggie Pie

Anyone else notice how ‘bolshie’ female staff working at the local Chinese Takeaway have become lately?
Now we only ever get it a couple times of year at the most. And its always been the same thing…..2 Spring Rolls, 6 Curried Chicken Wings, Mushroom Egg Foo Yong, SS Pork, $1.50 Chips, and 2 Pineapple Fritters.
Anyway,last night just for a change, thort we might try something different. Pressed speed dial and said i wanted to place an order. Nek minit, there’s this Asian woman screaming into the phone that she can’t understand ME….and then hangs up in my ear!
What’s that all about? All I did was ask if she could read out the menu and the prices.
Commie bitch.
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July 27, 2020 9:24am
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, you are lucky your takeaway actually answers the phone. Our local Thai shop is so busy they rarely pick up the phone I have observed…..Chinese…nah sorry, too tasteless.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:29am
- Libertarians are right
  
  Most Chinese takeaways here have a token white girl to answer the phones so they don’t have that issue. Probably saves them a lot of lost customers.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:54am
  - plc
    
    And one day she can be Prime Minister
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:26am
lastmanstanding

The reason Labour havent released any policy is because they are struggling to come up with anything thats credible.

They have failed to execute any of their key 2017 policies and even their most devoted supporters know that.

After following politics for 50 years I cant think of a government thats failed so completely on getting even one key policy across the line.

Any policy they come up with should be ridiculed and laughed it. They deserve nothing less.
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July 27, 2020 9:25am
- Inandout
  
  lastman, if as a government you don’t actually do anything past ‘planning’ then you can’t be criticised. I have worked for bosses who are ‘gunna’, all talk, no do.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:32am
- Tricati
  
  All those expensive working groups and consultants have proven to be bloody useless, so maybe us tax payers should ask for our money back.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:44am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Tricati, the problem is (as I’ve commented previously) is a lack of strategic thinking among the country’s
    – politicians;
    – bureaucrats;
    – business leaders.
    
    It is truly surprising how fe know:
    – where we as a country are;
    – where we want to get to;
    – what will be achieved;
    – how it will be achieved; and
    – what it will cost.
    
    With that level of knowledge, you’ll get the likes of Woods’ promotong initiatives to investigate pumping water uphill using solar power to generate hydro electricity. Yesterday, she sounded like someone who was going to do a deal with the Harbour Bridge Salesman she met at the Duck and Cover pub just off Sentinel Island.
    
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    July 27, 2020 2:09pm
rockape

We can bleat all we like about the poll just done,however it’s probably not that far out AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME! But what are National going to do about it. Where is the vision for NZ ? Without that being made clear to voters this will see a Labour Government. Collins
Collins needs to man up and start some straight talking to KIWIs. I for one am not interested in more OPPOSITION, It’s time to look like a Government in waiting.
Remember hen we laughed about Labour having so many leaders in 9 years ! Maybe it’s time to do some soul searching.
For me I am a died in the wool FPP supporter, we will never get that back ,however, having 70 good candidates who want to work for their electorates not their political advancement would be a great starting place.
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July 27, 2020 9:25am
- RJ
  
  The campaign has barely begun, if them time, no one rolls out all their policy in one big hit, or people like you come back in a few weeks and ask where the policy is. Collins doesn’t need to man up and straight talk, she just needs to do what she does without people like you telling her what she needs to do. No need to do soul searching, more a need for people like you to zip it sweetie and let them do what they do best, and stop hitting the panic button.
  
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  July 27, 2020 9:54am
  - rockape
    
    If you think the election will be won in the next 7 weeks your kidding yourself. National made the mistake of getting rid of Bridges when a few polls during Covid went down and the party picnicked then. I was no Bridges fan but that close to an election they should have run with him and had they not won changed leader to Collins post election.
    I am in a position where I will be able to say what I think to her face. A year ago I wrote to all MPs and most wrote back saying I was right! I wrote about leadership and vision. No one disagreed with what I said!
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:26am
    - RJ
      
      Big hint for you, national have changed leader, not policy, and if you have been following their website and social media for the past year or so you would have a fairly good idea in the direction their policy is. No party releases their policy in one big lump. And yes there are actually the sway voters who will decide who they will vote for the day they walk in to vote.
      
      The campaign has barely started, give it a chance to actually follow its path.
      
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      July 27, 2020 12:56pm
      - rockape
        
        Diod I say they changed policy what they need to do as I said is make sure they have a vision for NZ and they clearly show that. I dont see it and as I have been a deputy electorate chair and former Electorate campaign manager be assured I have Nationals best interests at heart. However that doesnt mean I will deny reality!
        
        Where did I mention POLICY, policy and vision are not the same thing.
        
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        July 27, 2020 2:14pm
Boxing junkie

Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
On the poll:
1. National’s spin doctoring will only go so far. If the next poll also shows Labour 30 points ahead then cries of fake news will ring hollow.

2. Winston’s removal is great news for Labour. He would be the most troublesome opposition party by a wide margin, leveraging his ‘insider knowledge of the Labour cabinet.

3. Judith Collins is clearly popular with the party faithful, and no one else. Very similar to David Cunliffe’s short tenure as Labour leader in 2014. She gets rolled post election.
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July 27, 2020 9:37am
Philview

Now headlines criticising National for not accepting the latest poll result.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/nats-pr-machine-fires-after-rogue-poll
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July 27, 2020 9:47am
- Batman
  
  Ahh yes, the Socialist Review aka the ODT.
  
  Meh, don’t care.
  
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  July 27, 2020 4:55pm
Antoine

How can a feasibility study cost $30m???

A.
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July 27, 2020 9:51am
- Tall Man
  
  Friends with benefits 😉
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:16am
Fletch

A birthday photo of Jacinda from yesterday. [Deleted – mod]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12351002

[Mod – lay off the criticism of people’s appearance]
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July 27, 2020 9:53am
- Tall Man
  
  However, if people can’t see there is a very serious issue here then they are being politically blind.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:15am
  - fernglas
    
    Yes, in the old country a finance minister who was that well fed would be shot.
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:43am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Hey there – why do people who describe some of us as stale pale males get a pass on criticism of people’s appearance…? Not that I care, I do however find the hypocrisy amusing 🙂
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:38am
  - Batman
    
    Probably because it’s a generic term, like ‘Karens’ or Boomers, or avocado eating millenials.
    
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    July 27, 2020 4:56pm
Maggie Pie

This is very very concerning.
One of my twitter besties tweets…….

https://twitter.com/Lauren_Southern/status/1286908788864237569
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July 27, 2020 9:54am
- Classic Liberal
  
  IMHO Kiwibloggers need to pay more attention to these US BLM extremist riots, because this is how some people want NZ to go.
  
  The point of this link is: chief of police won’t endanger her officers by sending them into dangerous crowds of rioters.
  
  The crowds of rioters the Seattle mayor and woke have been supporting so far!
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:36am
  - Batman
    
    It’s well beyond the few usual violent idiots at this point.
    
    You’ve got grannies, veterans, mum’s, dad’s with leaf blowers (so the suburbs have decided they’ve had enough), nude naturist hipsters, even a glamour model from my Instagram follows.
    
    If Trump repeats this incitement to violence in others cities, as he seems likely to do, he will only make it worse for himself. All because of a feedback loop between the right wing media and their audience of one.
    
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    July 27, 2020 5:00pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

https://twitter.com/pulpyfictorious/status/1287470396422447107
It’s been confirmed 300 respondents to Newshub’s poll last night was a self selected internet panel. “Self selected internet panel” Not a random sample. The poll is utter bullshit.
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July 27, 2020 9:54am
- rangitoto
  
  Do they break out the result for just the 300?
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:19am
guardianista

Do you remember how the media used to write gushing articles about john key on his birthday each year? No, neither do I.
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July 27, 2020 10:04am
- SGA
  
  Here’s one for Paula Bennett turning 50.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12220794
  
  And John Key’s 50th
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10743885
  and another
  https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/key-turns-50-old-banker-young-pm
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:40am
  - All_on_Red
    
    True
    But I think it’s accepted that 50 is a more traditional milestone than just 40- which is nothing really.
    I think it’s pretty clear Ardern does have quite the Fan club in our Media
    And this is an example of it.
    
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    July 27, 2020 12:03pm
    - SGA
      
      40- which is nothing really.
      
      50th in particular, perhaps, but 30th, 40ths, etc usually create a little more attention that the numbers in between.
      But really this seems pretty trivial to be getting one’s knickers in a knot about.
      
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      July 27, 2020 1:02pm
- lifesgood
  
  [ Mod: Pollies families are off limits. We are supposed to ban but I’ll leave yours as a warning ]
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:45am
  - lifesgood
    
    I am a little bemused but your call, so fair enough.
    
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    July 27, 2020 1:34pm
- Inandout
  
  guardian, the iniquitous media support package was not in play back then. How anyone can accept Media Party opinion as fact is beyond me, it is a bloody disgrace that taxpayers should prop up this business.
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:53am
Tall Man

This election is going to be the most unpleasant we have ever seen.

ardern has seized the covid con as she has every other “disaster” we have faced and made it about her rather than what she can do for NZ.

She is riding high in the polls yet no one has a clue what her government will do to help NZ past this issue other than take money from one sector and give it to another with a serious clip of the ticket as it passes by.

We have seen a zero success rate in labour’s 2017 promises yet that doesn’t faze her supporters a jot. This crass stupidity has been aided an abetted by a corrupt media for no other reason than hatred of “rich bastards”, landords and white people, mainly men.

I for one have the ability to mitigate the worst excesses of what ardern’s future plans may be as do many others on here but my concern is for the acrtual economic health and wellbeing of my country.

The road ardern wants to take us on is a very very hard road to get off and remedy the negative effects.

I truly hope for the sake of NZ that common sense prevails and whatever government we have after 19 September is able to restart our economy.
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July 27, 2020 10:28am
- RJ
  
  The problem is the media, we have no real independent non biased media in New Zealand. Imagine if National were going into an election with the huge failures labour have had, that would be daily news. The media would be hounding them about the increased child poverty, increased homelessness, increased wait for a state house. Failed policy would be constantly brought up. But the media won’t do this with her, and sooner or later that will bite them on the ass.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:39am
  - lifesgood
    
    If only we had Sky News here. Australia is well served by them.
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:46am
  - Classic Liberal
    
    I agree that the lack of fair and balanced media is a huge problem for NZ, but how will this happen: “the media won’t do this with her, and sooner or later that will bite them on the ass.” ?
    
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    July 27, 2020 10:51am
    - RJ
      
      More and more people are turning away from the media. Not buying their papers, turning off the news. Their inability to be anything other than a mouth piece is collapsing their businesses
      
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      July 27, 2020 11:13am
      - septic skeptic
        
        Yes, but they are angling for state funding as an essential service. They don’t need much by way of viewers and readership so long as the government chips in money to ensure we have trusted and reliable news sources.
        
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        July 27, 2020 11:48am
  - Philview
    
    The media role has now switched to holding the opposition to account with much critical analysis of any National Party policy proposals but barely a word on the Government’s actual policy. I have read commentary in several articles calling for the National Party to be dismantled. It feels like we are turning a little bit into Zimbabwe. Should we be concerned or will things swing back in future?
    
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    July 27, 2020 2:25pm
- Captain Mainwaring
  
  Cindy is nothing but an Eva Peron style figurehead for deluded lefties looking for a Pied Piper. The government she ‘leads’ is incompetent and if they win we will be thrown into uncharted territory.
  What would Labour be polling if Angry Andy was still in charge?
  I suspect it would be National that’s on 60%.
  
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  July 27, 2020 10:41am
- Ian Boag
  
  I was at a wine lovers’ function the other week. Talking to a loyal long-time Nat worker – his take was “who would want to be in government right now?” Go figure.
  
  no one has a clue what her government will do to help NZ past this issue
  
  So far Judith has promised umpty-ump k’s of roads to be delivered over the next decade or two. Which Labour will no doubt more or less match. All a bit underwhelming in terms of jobs this year or next year.
  
  Doubtless more will come from National along the lines of “restart the economy”. Somehow. Tax cuts will probably figure in there someplace.
  
  The only way I can see for a restart in a reasonable time frame is to restart tourism/foreign students, Leaving the border closed will leave these sectors dead, opening the border might get some of the business back and will give us more covid cases.
  
  Your views on covid have been expressed here enough times to be well understood. It’s a bit pointless trying to “debate” them, but the Victoria situation will not be helping acceptance of your opinions ….
  
  So do you have any specific ideas on what might be done to reboot the economy? FWIW I don’t …
  
  And it’s good to know that you’re all right Jack.
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:27am
  - SGA
    
    The only way I can see for a restart in a reasonable time frame is to restart tourism/foreign students,
    
    Foreign students is probably a lot easier than tourism in the short term, although overall far less profitable. They are here long enough to make 14-days quarantine worthwhile, you can make them pay for it as part of their student visas, and NZ is likely to look relatively attractive from a global perspective.
    
    Looking at the big picture – I really don’t see what a National government would hvae done in the last 6 months that would look terribly different from the situation now. We still would have done something very similar to our current situation (perhaps a bit more Australian). I can’t see a National government taking a bold Swedish move, for example.
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:43am
  - Jack5
    
    It’s good to know you’re all right, too, Ian.
    
    It’s easier to pick holes in economic plans than to come up with new ones.
    
    Renewed student entry would help, but this time without the bonus of being put on a road to permanent entry and citizenship. With tens of thousands of unemployed, it will need that proviso to be politically acceptable. Besides, economically, the strategy of super-fast population growth has been a disaster.
    
    For a start, and to put the country on an export-led recovery course, lowering the exchange rate would put nitro in our economic tank. That requires wiping from of foreign investors and punters’ minds the Shangri La mirage of New Zealand.
    
    We could acknowledge that, for decades, New Zealanders haven’t exported enough to cover our foreign outgoings.
    
    Then we could deride the hypsters who put out nonsense of the type that New Zealand has a “rock-star economy”.
    
    At home, highlighting falling relative national wealth, as measured by GDP per capita, might steel NZ folk for economic medicine we’ll all have to swallow.
    
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    July 27, 2020 12:20pm
    - Tall Man
      
      I actually think roading is a great kick starter. Generally it employs a heap of lower skilled workers putting money into communities without the welfare tag.
      
      We are also desperately short of roading in NZ in all areas so it’s a win win.
      
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      July 27, 2020 2:11pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      For a start, and to put the country on an export-led recovery course, lowering the exchange rate would put nitro in our economic tank.
      
      A good idea, but ….. the NZD floats. The days of devaluation by fiat are long gone. Our internal interest rates (the sort of thing that makes foreigners want to buy NZD’s) are close to zero.
      
      So I am not quite sure how this would be done ….
      
      And it would generate internal inflation – great for property owners – fantastic for farmers – pretty stink for anyone else.
      
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      July 27, 2020 2:13pm
      - Jack5
        
        The kiwi dollar’s been floating on hot air for a long time – loans and capital that seems largely to have gone into land and housing.
        
        You need deep pockets to back fixed exchange rates – for example when Beijing backed the Hong Kong dollar, which operates in a fixed band. The Hong Kong Monetary Authority then beat a Soros-led raid. Beijing also manages its own currency.
        
        A floating rate is supposed to fix disequilibrium in balance of payments. That hasn’t happened in New Zealand.
        
        I doubt New Zealand’s leadership has, or ever has had, the intelligence, skill, or will to manage a currency the way Singapore has so successfully. To be fair, we would have to give up a bit of our freedom to have a State powerful enough to manage its currency as well as Singapore.
        
        That leaves us with how we could influence a free floating currency that doesn’t adjust with balance of payments balances.
        
        Perhaps our leaders don’t want it to adjust: they are on a high of borrow, flog off assets (land, etc), and hope that in the long run hype wins.
        
        The Singapore model has contributed to the republic’s rise from colonial cot case to having the seventh highest GDP per capita in the world (NZ is ranked 48th). Here it is:
        
        https://www.mas.gov.sg/-/media/MAS/manual-migration/Monographs/exchangePolicy.pdf
        
        And
        
        https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2004/wp0410.pdf
        
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        July 27, 2020 2:49pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Jack5
        
        AFAICT from the links you quoted, Singapore has a “managed” exchange rate. We don’t. I understand managing the exchange rate involves the central bank buying/selling the currency and manipulating interest rates to keep things in the desired band. The interest rate thing has pretty much run out of puff so it would presumable be done by market intervention.
        
        You mentioned “deep pockets” being needed to do this ….
        
        So – to return to my (honest) question – how would you do this if you were Minister of Finance or Reserve Bank governor or whoever else you would want to be …..
        
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        July 27, 2020 3:17pm
      - Jack5
        
        I’m an armchair enthusiast, Ian.But in my dream, I would run a black campaign to bring the kiwi dollar’s exchange rate down.
        
        – Let overseas investors and commentators know the balance of payments position and its worse outlook.
        
        – Make sure they know there is no chance now of an inshore or offshore oil or gas bonanza to save us.
        
        – Let them know the investment risks of a country on the edge of a tectonic plate and with its biggest city sitting on a field of volcanoes.
        
        – Explain how socialist New Zealand is. How much State participation we have, and our armies of civil servants.
        
        – Tell them about Maori nationalism and claims on assets.
        
        – Warn them about the serious infestation of the country by socialists, and worse, Greens.
        
        – Describe how the education system has gone off on a reckless tangent of feel-goodism, green mania, and indigenous “knowledge”.
        
        – Point out Beijing, with a share of trade and business almost equivalent to that of neighbouring Australia now has the country by the economic balls.
        
        – Elaborate how Australia, even more important to New Zealand economically than China, is being alienated by our refugees policy, for example by giving residency to Behrouz Boochani, who tried to gain entrance to Australia.
        
        – Show them how our biggest foreign currency earner, tourism, is kaput.
        
        – Explain how the present exchange rate, set by our floating dollar does not move directly with the balance of payments. The direction and momentum of the kiwi dollar is anyone’s guess. It may even be random.
        
        – If they’re thinking of land investment, warn them if Labour wins power in the next few months there will be a capital gains tax.
        
        – Reveal that we are moving towards changing to Maori the country’s everyday language – even the country’s name.
        
        If the this didn’t scare them out of kiwi dollars, I’d open up about Winston Peters. ?
        
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        July 27, 2020 4:10pm
      - Ian Boag
        
        @Jack5
        
        Bit hard to respond to a shotgun blast, but I’ll give it a whirl
        
        Let overseas investors and commentators know the balance of payments position and its worse outlook.
        
        They already do
        
        – Make sure they know there is no chance now of an inshore or offshore oil or gas bonanza to save us.
        
        as above
        
        – Let them know the investment risks of a country on the edge of a tectonic plate and with its biggest city sitting on a field of volcanoes.
        
        as above
        
        – Explain how socialist New Zealand is. How much State participation we have, and our armies of civil servants.
        
        OK
        
        – Tell them about Maori nationalism and claims on assets.
        
        OK – like Canada and Oz
        
        – Warn them about the serious infestation of the country by socialists, and worse, Greens.
        
        OK
        
        – Describe how the education system has gone off on a reckless tangent of feel-goodism, green mania, and indigenous “knowledge”.
        
        Every man is entitled to an opinion
        
        – Point out Beijing, with a share of trade and business almost equivalent to that of neighbouring Australia now has the country by the economic balls.
        
        So what
        
        – Elaborate how Australia, even more important to New Zealand economically than China, is being alienated by our refugees policy, for example by giving residency to Behrouz Boochani, who tried to gain entrance to Australia.
        
        You really think the Australian give a shit about one reffo who made it out of the cordon …
        
        – Show them how our biggest foreign currency earner, tourism, is kaput.
        
        Public information – they already know
        
        – Explain how the present exchange rate, set by our floating dollar does not move directly with the balance of payments. The direction and momentum of the kiwi dollar is anyone’s guess. It may even be random.
        
        Welcome to the world of the currency trader. Ask JK for advice maybe.
        
        – If they’re thinking of land investment, warn them if Labour wins power in the next few months there will be a capital gains tax.
        
        Like most other countries
        
        – Reveal that we are moving towards changing to Maori the country’s everyday language – even the country’s name.
        
        Oh wow ….
        
        If this didn’t scare them out of kiwi dollars, I’d open up about Winston Peters. ?
        
        Public info again
        
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        July 27, 2020 5:35pm
      - Jack5
        
        Sales folk visiting Japan pushing investment funds don’t discuss things like chronic balance of payments deficits or geological risk to the Japanese mums, who with Belgian dentists, are the fabled savers targeted.
        
        It’s not a lot different to buying a car. Do you listen only to the salesman, or do you need independent information?
        
        At times, we’ve even had some of our Polyanna bank economists in Japan pushing the benefits of investing cash in NZ.
        
        On indigenous aspect: Australian Aboriginals less than 0.5 per cent of population; Maori about 16 per cent of NZ population.
        
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        July 27, 2020 5:57pm
    - Ian Boag
      
      It’s easier to pick holes in economic plans than to come up with new ones.
      
      True.
      
      Neither party has so far come up with what I would call “an economic plan” so there’s nothing to pick holes in. Roads are a Good Thing, but they take ages to start and forever to build.
      
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      July 27, 2020 2:24pm
      - Jack5
        
        And roads now are built with heavy machinery, compared with more pick and shovel, labour-heavy methods of the Great Depression.
        
        Will public works like roads and bridges pump up the economy as they did in the 1930s?
        
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        July 27, 2020 3:07pm
      - SGA
        
        Thanks Jack5 – glad to know I’m not alone wondering about that.
        
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        July 27, 2020 7:10pm
  - rangitoto
    
    There’s lots of foreign students still here.
    
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    July 27, 2020 2:12pm
DeepBlue

Newshub again….”A new UMR poll shows 47 percent of those surveyed support individuals accessing income support payments, regardless of their relationship status.”

I predict 47% is the actual Labour Green vote on 19 September. The big question will be if the Greens are above or below 5%.
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July 27, 2020 10:35am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Many of those 47 percent aren’t benefit dependent though. If national shows them how much more will come out if their wallets to pay the dole to ‘unemployed person with well-off, employed spouse’, will they keep supporting the idea? Could be every spouse who chooses to stay home with children , ffs!
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:00am
Flossie

As I watched my partner drive off to work (as a delivery driver) at 6.30 this morning – in the frost – I watched some of the AM show on TV3. AGAIN we get blah blah blah about “working from home”. I am so over all that! Thinking through our circle of family, friends and neighbours we have some that work in hospitals, emergency services, construction, retail, hospitality… can’t think of them all. Basically, none who could work from home. So please, why are we subjected to so much media time spent on how helpful or otherwise this is to the individuals fortunate enough to have the choice?
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July 27, 2020 10:45am
- Jules99
  
  Someone’s going to work because the roads are as busy as ever at peak hour.
  
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  July 27, 2020 3:32pm
  - Flossie
    
    Exactly my point
    Most people do not have the option not to actually go in.
    
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    July 27, 2020 4:21pm
Maggie Pie

Randim impertinent question…

Should callers to late-nite Talkback actually be allowed to vote?
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July 27, 2020 10:48am
- SGA
  
  We should probably have similar concerns about listeners to late-nite talkback 🙂 🙂
  
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  July 27, 2020 11:06am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    😀
    
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    July 27, 2020 11:20am
- Jack5
  
  Late night Talkback callers should be allowed to vote only if they’ve sobered up enough to walk a straight line to the ballot box.
  
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  July 27, 2020 4:21pm
RJ

Not only was this que jumping but it was also against our system as he had already been accepted into the USA

National’s immigration spokesperson, Stuart Smith, has criticised him as jumping the queue for entry to New Zealand and suggested he “played the immigration system like a violin”.

But those criticisms are frustrating to Mr Boochani, who says it reduces the Manus Island refugees’ plight to a personal story rather than a wider issue.
“In Manus Island, I was trying and I was fighting for human rights,” he told TVNZ1’s Breakfast this morning.

One news
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July 27, 2020 11:22am
- Philview
  
  He has now accused the National Party of spreading “Hate Speech”. I think that comment tells us a lot about our future as a country. Criticisms of left wing policy will be deemed “Hate”.
  
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  July 27, 2020 2:00pm
- hilaryt
  
  Mr Smith is on the button. Is this wet dude not the luckiest asylum seeker this side of the black stump? With more very, very , very good friends than just mountains nowadays? May he be vewy, vewy fusdraded, though I guess the good friends will take care of that too.
  
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  July 27, 2020 5:23pm
Jack5

Michael Reddell keeps the heat on the Reserve Bank Governor, Adrian Orr:

https://croakingcassandra.com/2020/07/27/empty-vessels/
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July 27, 2020 1:03pm
- Philview
  
  Robertson is clearly calling the shots and Adrian Orr has completely caved despite the so called independence.
  
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  July 27, 2020 2:18pm
kowtow

Kbers don’t need proof of the Media Party’s anti conservative and pro left bias when a story run by the ODT but taken from the NZ Herald starts like this :

‘National’s public relations machine was spinning less than a minute after revelations the party had fallen to a dismal 25 percent in the latest political poll – while Labour soared at 60 percent.’

But no where in the story is there any reference or evidence of a pr machine , none.

Also missing is a vital piece of info about the poll methodology , which now appears to include 300 self selected wallahs .

Pity the same Media Party didn’t question the Facebook hit on Bridges’ alleged confrontational style which seemed to be the catalyst for the disastrous Muller coup.

We are being played bigly .

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/nats-pr-machine-fires-after-rogue-poll

I wouldn’t call it a rogue poll , it’s more rouge , like Khmer Rouge.
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July 27, 2020 1:09pm
Maggie Pie

Is John Campbell the nearest thing you’ll see on TV to a Dick-Pic?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12351245
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July 27, 2020 1:21pm
- graham
  
  John Campbell tells somebody off for a “misogynistic comment” and states “I think it’s important to clarify what we stand for on Breakfast, and that is we don’t punch down. Our targets are never soft. And I think that’s something we’re really proud of on this programme – it’s a safe place, and we like to speak truth to power.”
  
  I’ll be honest, I don’t even understand what half of that means, but I guess it must not include that time when John Campbell teased the weather presenter ‘Matty’ McLean over his tight pants, comparing him to Elvis (referring to Presley’s weight gain as he got older), along with Melissa Stokes and Jenny-May Claekson.
  
  Hypocrites.
  
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  July 27, 2020 1:42pm
  - Classic Liberal
    
    His assumption that debating something with a woman is ‘punching down’ is misogynistic. A tough, experienced woman is any man’s equal and doesn’t need Campbell’s ‘protection’.
    
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    July 27, 2020 2:18pm
    - sooty
      
      Go that man! To get a gumming by campbell, you should wear it with pride!
      
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      July 27, 2020 5:50pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  What Campbell says or thinks you can take with a container load of salt. Just a Jacinda sycophant loudmouth. This is why I call it ‘play school TV1 breakfast’
  
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  July 27, 2020 5:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

The mess that ILG has created for immigration..

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/a-useless-handbrake-is-released

Will Judith be able to figure out why special people got special treatment from Immigration?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/07/judith-collins-plans-to-grill-jacinda-ardern-on-behrouz-boochani-s-refugee-status.html
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July 27, 2020 2:22pm
- DeepBlue
  
  Reading the Facebook comments on this it is very clear that either 95% of people are voting Jacinda this election, or National supporters have been driven underground as the silent voter.
  
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  July 27, 2020 2:42pm
  - RJ
    
    I refuse to comment on politics on social media, you get abused to hell in your inbox and some of the scum even try to track you down offline.
    
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    July 27, 2020 3:49pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Same pricks knock down National election signs
      
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      July 27, 2020 5:10pm
- Jack5
  
  Deepa’s got it upside down: he thinks the developed world is desperate for the billions of people from the Third World.
  
  The imminent economic crash will show how wrong he is.
  
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  July 27, 2020 5:30pm
Okahu

Who else is looking forward to the attack The Taxpayer Union is going to make on the troughing parliamentarians? Particularly those that keep collecting exorbitant salaries, after revealing themselves too lazy, ignorant and/or morally, ethically and legally compromised to be reselected by their own party.
Speaking of which. When ought we expect the release of the Heron report?
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July 27, 2020 4:20pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

MSM very quiet, even in NZ. Insulin and Epipens.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?474183-1/president-trump-signs-executive-order-lowering-drug-prices
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July 27, 2020 5:24pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Liberals.
https://www.facebook.com/prntly/photos/a.1565276627046009/2661333437440317/?type=3&theater
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July 27, 2020 6:05pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Oohh a downticker. Does your Mum know you are on the internet?
  Best turn the phone off and go beddie byes.
  No wonder she is so tired, changing your dirty wet nappies all fucking day
  
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  July 27, 2020 6:42pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Sir Bob actually ‘outed’ a downticker once.
    Turns out he was a real loser. Born with one leg shorter than the other and wore special Limb Length Discrepancy Footwear.
    
    Bet it’s the same guy. LOL!!
    
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    July 27, 2020 7:59pm
Brian McDonald

Looking at another rogue poll? Seem’s Judith is not greatly trusted. She’s walking into her own punches now. If the idea was to pull the grass roots of National back together and hold together for the election, it’s not working.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/newshub-reid-research-poll-voters-trust-ardern-far-more-than-collins/ar-BB17e3KP?ocid=msedgdhp
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July 27, 2020 9:17pm
graham

Further to my earlier comment about the hypocrisy of John Campbell scolding a reporter who had a momentary brain-fart and apparently made a “misogynistic comment”, it appears others have been quick to scold John Campbell.

Viewers slam John Campbell’s reaction to colleague’s comment

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12351402

“How about counselling a junior colleague off air instead of publicly flogging him and hanging him out to dry for his mistake – Hardly a safe space for him,” Newstalk ZB host Tim Beveridge wrote on Twitter.

“That wouldn’t allow for maximum virtue signalling though Tim,” one person replied.

“I agree. Campbell’s response was atrocious,” another Twitter user said.

“Yes, he did wrong and there’s a time and place for counselling. They bullied him into apologising. Sad,” someone else commented.

Others believed Campbell’s exchange with Longhurst was “bullying”.

“@JohnJCampbell Workplace bullying is ugly and a problem in NZ workplaces. Sadly, you have given us a real live example of how to humiliate younger member of the team – with an audience. Shame on you,” one person wrote. “@WorkSafeNZ please investigate this bully. @TVNZ this is not acceptable. #bully”

Ouch. One suspects that John Campbell will not take kindly to being called out as a bully.
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July 27, 2020 9:27pm
Brian McDonald

Now Goldie’s copping it. Goldie was part of the hit team on Bloomfield, a Maori boy from down the line somewhere but he didn’t know it.
I guess not enough people are reading KB. When punters were asked about the situation in the National party on TV last week and said it was a mess, that is reflective.
National does not have a good scrapper in their ranks. Even the leaders throw hospital passers – to themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/kiwis-trust-labour-more-than-national-to-run-the-economy-poll/ar-BB17ekji?ocid=msedgdhp
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