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Sigmund Freud

It’s all John Keys [sic] fault.

Let’s keep moving!
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September 14, 2020 8:00am
- RW Capitalist
  
  When you are falling into a deep abyss, it is difficult to not keep moving……down.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:23am
MT_Tinman

Last night, while watching television I was suddenly, until I could reach for and activate the remote, subjected to a god-awful ugly talking head telling blatant lies by advising me it had gone hard, quickly.

Now that may describe the actions of a certain Labour party youth camp attendee but nothing else -the country’s borders are still f@#king open to all except, of course, those who could benefit New Zealand.

It did, however, get me thinking – no easy feat at any time 😉

After noting both main parties opening forays the one thing that stands out is that all of them have completely forgotten that politicians are elected to serve the people. To work for the the populace, not to get some of the populace, the net tax payers, to work for them.

Maybe it’s time to follow the advice given to me years ago by my elderly neighbour, fire the lot of them and put a married couple in to run the joint.
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September 14, 2020 8:00am
- Nickc2
  
  In this instance, we have an unelected PM. Next month though we can get rid of her.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:36am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    In your dreams NickC2. I will be very very happy, if sheeple are able to get rid of her in 2026….
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:26am
    - Nickc2
      
      It’s good to see you have taken over the role of comedian on thid blog Sir!
      
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      September 14, 2020 10:48am
    - DenisPurdy
      
      What is the point of your endless negativity. Are we just supposed to give up, and let the catastrophe of a Labour/Greens government engulf us (with emphasis on the Greens part). The only thing that saved us from a disaster this time was the New Zealand First handbrake; the current government was therefore only mostly useless and somewhat regressive. BTW, it is swallowing a huge dead rat for me to say something nice about NZF as I have despised Winston Peters for over 30 years.
      
      Some of us are going to keep fighting and arguing for rational, economically and morally sound government which will only come from a National/ACT coalition government.
      
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      September 14, 2020 11:42am
      - Flossie
        
        I do agree with some though who think National could be a tad more aggressive with their message. They are better than the current lot and shouldn’t be too shy to shout about it.
        
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        September 14, 2020 11:55am
      - MT_Tinman
        
        DenisPurdy, what NZ needs is an ACT/National coalition government.
        
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        September 14, 2020 11:56am
  - JSelway
    
    How doo we have an “un-elected PM”?
    
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    September 14, 2020 1:19pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Ask Winston Peters…
      
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      September 14, 2020 1:20pm
      - JSelway
        
        So did you also complain about John Key being un-elected?
        
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        September 14, 2020 1:47pm
      - hullkiwi
        
        JSelway, what part of winning more votes and seats than Labour make Key unelected. As opposed to Jacinda being appointed PM by Peters.
        
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        September 14, 2020 3:53pm
    - Nickc2
      
      She was appointed, not elected. No matter how much spin lefties want to put on this, the fact’s can’t be denied. Her mob received fewer votes than National but when she teamed up with other like-minded idiots, she was appointed PM by Winston 1st. He wasn’t called the King Maker for nothing.
      
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      September 14, 2020 1:52pm
      - Bullion
        
        No party in the history of MMP has been able to govern alone and have required the forming of coalitions to gain a majority of seats in Government.
        
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        September 14, 2020 2:31pm
      - Nickc2
        
        Bullion @2:31PM
        English Proverb: There are none so blind as those who will not see (John Heywood 1546).
        
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        September 14, 2020 8:13pm
  - Bullion
    
    How do we have an unelected PM. Did the 2017 election not take place? Is Jacinda Ardern not head of the coalition that has a majority of seats in Government?
    
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    September 14, 2020 2:28pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      In Germany (upon which our version of MMP is modelled), Jacinda would not have had the option to form a government and Peters wouldn’t have been the self styled King maker.
      
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      September 14, 2020 3:56pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

A couple of very interesting videos.

The first is an ex-UK Supreme Court Judge recently commenting that Boris’s UK lock down is illegal, and secondly a very poignant question asked of Carl Jung about technocrats wanting a communal brain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ibHtut9zA&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz5zy7qfs6E
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September 14, 2020 8:01am
greybeard

This morning I learned that the maori word for “week” is “te wiki”.
I will have to think about that while I drive “te ka” up
“te motowei”.
To watch “te futi”.
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September 14, 2020 8:05am
- wimpston peeeders
  
  congrats on learning a sham language and made up words.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:07am
  - namron
    
    Really, learning maori is just the same as learning mis-spelt English.
    flu – whuru, ukulele – ukurere, coffee – kawhe,
    aeroplane – aropereina, scissors – kutikuti,
    shoes – hu, cow – kau, pen – pene,
    piano – piana, supermarket – hokomaha,
    There are no maori words for quite a few common English words eg cheque book, bare feet, footpath, traffic lights
    So ignoring the maori language and just treating it as the stoneage relic it is, is the sensible thing to do.
    
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    September 14, 2020 2:56pm
- pdm
  
  Have you got an amphibian car gb?
  
  You will need one if you want to watch `te footi’ – it is all in Aussie.
  
  Thanks for that Jacinda – you lot are hopeless.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:09am
- Gravelroad
  
  Billy T.James had a really good one: “ Ahi Creemi”.
  But I’m not saying it because that would be raaaaacisssssssst.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:10am
  - mark15
    
    Ko tanga
    Car aerial.
    
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    September 14, 2020 8:43am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Waia ko tanga
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:33am
    - hullkiwi
      
      Commodoors come off Commer vans.
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:35am
    - Catgurl13
      
      It’s like leaving your car keys on the outside of the car bro!
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:57am
  - Jack5
    
    Now! Now! Don’t forget we’ve all got to post in Maori at noon.
    
    Aren’t they??? ?
    
    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/425960/morena-aotearoa-ko-te-wiki-o-te-reo-maori
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:35am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Kia ora, Jack. Kei te pehea koe?
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:02pm
      - marcw
        
        Mike reaches the peak of his intellectual engagement after many years on KB. Finally something that is not demonstrably wrong, just absurd.
        
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        September 14, 2020 12:11pm
- G152
  
  So ‘Wiki leaks’ isn’t what was claimed then ?????
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:11am
- Swifty
  
  Heh heh.
  
  A good start to the week greybeard.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:22am
- Unity
  
  It’s a made-up language greybeard. Such a thing as a week wouldn’t have existed in the Stone Age so they are having to invent words left, right and centre.
  
  I’m also getting very tired of the Maori language being dotted in amongst English especially on TV. Our children are going to be speaking pidgin English instead of our beautiful language. And I’m starting to dislike ‘Aotearoa’ very much as it is used everywhere and we all know what they are trying to do – get us so used to it that when they decide to rename our country all the people who hear it everywhere will agree. Except me of course. Hopefully I’m long gone when that happens because it will, mark my words.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:50am
  - SGA
    
    It’s a made-up language greybeard.
    
    All languages “make up” and borrow words, Unity. There weren’t words for a lot of things around you 100-200 years ago. English is no exception (in fact, its love of adopting and combining words from other languages, existing and ancient, are what helps give it such a rich vocabulary – need a new word, chuck together a couple from classical Latin, or even Greek – “tele” “vision” – seeing from afar – yeah that sounds good).
    It’s what languages do.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:33am
    - oldfella
      
      “Tele-vision” = seeing from afar. Like we have to do with the rugby Championship which Cindy has gifted to the Aussies.
      
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      September 14, 2020 11:11am
    - Unity
      
      I know language evolves and we all obtain words from elsewhere but when you think back to 1840 and what little Maori had, most of their language has had to be ‘made up’. They were Stone Age people so whereas English takes in new words all the time, Maori has had to be basically ‘made up’ because their lives and what they had were so simple when the colonists came. Also, because the tribes came from many different places, and were not a cohesive race of people, they have had to also take the differences into account. They have even now changed the way words are pronounced to how they were said way back in the times.
      
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      September 14, 2020 11:51am
      - SGA
        
        I know language evolves and we all obtain words from elsewhere
        
        Well, that hasn’t been transparent.
        Anyway, you seem to running an odd double standard. When English needs new words because of meeting new cultures, environments or technology, it does so by borrowing words (e.g., verandah, pyjamas, cot, dinghy), combining words in new ways (e.g., floppy disk, software), or combining words from old languages (e.g., television). That you call “takes in new words”.
        When Maori does exactly the same thing, it is “made up”.
        All languages do this sort of thing, there is nothing odd about it (from memory, the French actually have some sort of government agency to try to minimise this pervasive effect).
        
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        September 14, 2020 1:08pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Made all the worse because much of what passes as TeReo and Maori culture/folklore is not consistent across the iwi/tribes from North to South in NZ.
    
    It is composite to suit a narrative.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:39am
    - SGA
      
      Made all the worse because much of what passes as TeReo and Maori culture/folklore is not consistent across the iwi/tribes from North to South in NZ.
      
      You could as easily say “Made all the worse because much of what passes as English is not consistent from North to South in the UK.” Familiar with “Pygmalion” or “My Fair Lady”?
      Why are you insisting on a linguistic purity in Maori while you happily accept the diversity in accent, pronunciation, vocabulary, and even grammar I suspect, that forms what we happily call English throughout the world?
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:52am
      - hullkiwi
        
        Are you familiar with the legend of Maui fishing up the North Island. It never was a Maori legend.
        
        It is not linguistic purity of Maori. It is the falsehood that there is a homogenous Maori language, culture and folklore. There never was and there never will be.
        
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        September 14, 2020 11:43am
      - SGA
        
        It is the falsehood that there is a homogenous Maori language, culture and folklore.
        
        And there is regional diversity in England’s language, culture and folklore (and if we want to include the rest of the UK it gets even worse). So what? That doesn’t mean there aren’t important commonalities as well.
        Why do you demand a strict homogeneity of Maori custom and language while you readily accept such variation in other cultures?
        
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        September 14, 2020 12:00pm
    - Unity
      
      I see I’m right about changing the name of our country. After my post it came through the media that the Maori Party will be campaigning on changing the name of our country. I do hope many of you will stand by the name we all love and respect – e.g. New Zealand.
      
      Getting back to the Maori language, you can’t compare it with English or the many other languages because with the extreme simplicity of their lives back a couple of centuries ago, they needed such few words because they didn’t have anything much to name in the first place. So, you can’t compare it with the other languages which covered many words way back in those times – including the wheel.
      
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      September 14, 2020 4:06pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Judith could romp in here if she was to declare that under her government, only English will be used by talking heads on radio and TV spectrums leased from the NZ Government with the exception of those already transmitting as Maori Entities.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:47am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      I wish she’d romp in with ‘No more state funding for media. People can broadcast so easily online now that the state can keep out of it.’
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:17pm
- SGA
  
  To be fair, when my grandfather was a lad, the word “motorway”, if it existed at all in English, would have had a different meaning, and it’s constructed by putting two existing words together (“motor” + “way”) in much the way some modern Maori words are constructed. Actually, there’s more of that in English than we notice – waterfall, wheelbarrow, railway, bicycle (just means “two wheels”), and so on.
  
  As I think about it, I imagine an simple sentence such as “I drove my motorcycle to the mall to get a new cellphone” would have been pretty much incomprehensible in the 1800s.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:10am
  - Ed Snack
    
    True enough, but almost certainly incomprehensible because those entities didn’t exist, not that the words would not be understood. Mall certainly was, the place Pall Mall for example; and cycle was known (widely so in the late 1800’s) and a motor cycle could be comprehended but probably not imagined as engines then were steam powered and even the smallest essentially too large for a cycle. Though the first motorised cycle (3 wheeler) from Daimler was produced in 1885. Cellphone I’ll give you as the concept of remote communications was limited to telegraph and later “wireless” radio transmissions; “phone” even as shorthand for telephone was not until 1876 with Bell’s first conversation. Probably though a “cellphone” was a jailhouse communications device.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:44pm
    - SGA
      
      Mall certainly was
      
      As a large area, usually lined with shade trees and shrubbery, used as a public walk or promenade, not as a shopping precinct
      
      Let’s face it, Ed, for all your protestations that sentence would have been word salad to someone in 1850. Language evolves – we don’t rely on the vocabulary of 1840 now – everyday words today, like “escalator”, would mean something very different to most people then (if it had any meaning at all).
      
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      September 14, 2020 1:19pm
  - Unity
    
    I get it – language evolves over time but I’ll say it again – Maori lives were absolutely simple way back in the 18th and 19th centuries so their language would be miniscule especially compared to other languages around the World which would have had a vast number of words even at that time. So, since the colonists came with not only the wheel but many other things at that time, Maori language has had to be invented. They would never have understood our language which was vast even in the 19th century and they would have had no words for the many things the colonists had or would talk about. So, whether people like it or not, Maori today is a made-up language. They wouldn’t have even been able to put two or three words together, like we do, to make up a name for something new because there wouldn’t have been an original name for some part of it in the first place.
    
    This is sounding rather convoluted but hopefully it will make sense.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:49pm
    - SGA
      
      They wouldn’t have even been able to put two or three words together, like we do, to make up a name for something new
      
      Why not? I can imagine someone’s first exposure to a musket in action, say, might generate “fire stick” or “fire spear” – which sounds odd, but isn’t much different from the acceptable English word firearm.
      
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      September 14, 2020 1:31pm
- thirteenstars
  
  This week’s Countdown mailer is an eye-opener.
  
  Te miti.
  
  Who’d have guessed?
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:20am
  - lifesgood
    
    Right, New World it is then, unless they also go woke.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:34am
    - thirteenstars
      
      Countdown has been sprinkling Maori throughout their mailer for quite some time, mainly in headings beside the English words.
      
      New World seems to be Te Reo free for now.
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:48am
  - Sacha
    
    te miti
    what is the English translation?
    
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    September 14, 2020 2:07pm
- 70andstilllearning
  
  Absolutely hilarious! Today’s 1$tuffed’s main page section headers all in te reo only, but notice their contribution begging bleat still in bold English!!
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:26am
  - thirteenstars
    
    Oh, as always, follow the money.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:51am
  - Biscuit
    
    Brilliant, Mr 70and still learning!
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:11am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    mind you – google translate fixes the problem
    
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    September 14, 2020 11:32am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Ridiculous isn’t it, as my friends Anaru and Eruera said just the other day.
  
  Doesn’t even make sense, as they already (culturally) appropriated wiki for the first part of the (also culturally appropriated) name Wikitoria.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:37am
  - Jimmy White
    
    You find all this stuff in the wiki pedia
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:47am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Why don’t you think about “te cindy”?
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:27am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Yes, it’s actually sad. This is what I got told off for recently by Wayne Mapp: instead of Maori being chopped about and shaped to show how woke every government department is, I wish the language would keep its dignity.
  
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  September 14, 2020 12:11pm
- Nermal
  
  If you’re in Auckland you can drive over Te Kotanga.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:39pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Journalist complains about having to write “dumb” stories.
One senior New Zealand journalist says she felt her job was “impossible”. Journalists are often charged with rushing out emotionally draining, or in some cases morally questionable work, and that comes at a cost, she says.

“There’s this thing called a moral injury right? Where you do stories you don’t think are right. Whether that’s ringing up a victim or going to their house over and over, or just doing stories you think are dumb.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018763588/a-call-for-less-news

My heart bleeds….
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September 14, 2020 8:05am
- bruceavon
  
  The articles right about one thing. The need for the news cycle to change every hour rather than once a day means you need tons of filler stories like Chloe Swarbrick and her couch. and real stories about things that matter disappear from the front page in a couple of hours as well.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:35am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    The Swarbrick puff-pieces are anything but filler. They are there for a reason, to keep her name in the news for voter recognition purposes.
    
    Same with the not-so-subtle references to other things the left media loves, for example in the Stuff quiz they’ll ask questions such as: Labour has promised to make what day a public holiday if they are re-elected?
    
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    September 14, 2020 11:16am
- Jules99
  
  I considered a career in journalism, but realised I couldn’t bang on the door of grieving families and push for details for publication/broadcast. You have to shut a part of yourself of to feel ok about doing that.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:45am
- Unity
  
  Obviously totally unsuited to journalism.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:51am
  - sooty
    
    She would be better employed writing childrens books.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:42am
- Sacha
  
  My husband always used to complain that ‘ there is too much news’ – he felt that there was too much repetition of trivia in the media, and not enough intelligent discussion.
  And that was back in the ’80’s.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:45am
KevO'Brien

Well made China?
https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/chinese-virologist-says-she-has-proof-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/
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September 14, 2020 8:06am
- igm
  
  This is why I detest MSM. We are totally starved of these facts, not being in ther agenda-ridden narrative, and possibly not wanted by the current CoL, who are oblivious to any truthful reports that may harm their communist friends.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:12am
- krazykiwi
  
  Yes, almost certainly created there as part of that facility’s scientific program. Plenty of evidence of this. What there’s little evidence of to date is any deliberate release of the virus.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:28am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    This is not a new story and there is good reason to doubt the virus was lab-made.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12354215
    
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    September 14, 2020 8:56am
    - JackRabbit
      
      MnM,
      
      Unless you have an alternate theory that is even remotely plausible, the Wuhan lab leak is the best explanation that fits so far, and consistent with the fact that the Wuhan lab was setup for creating viruses.
      
      NZ Herald are not known for reporting the truth.
      
      Stick to things you actually know something about.
      
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      September 14, 2020 11:40am
    - Ed Snack
      
      Not lab made as such, but modified as part of an experimental program on enhanced function. This type of research does occur – scientists modify existing viruses to try to understand how they infect people (or other organisms).
      
      This used to be conducted in the USA but around 2016/17 that was ended over concerns of the risks of an accidental release. Much of the research was transferred to Chinese run labs including the Wuhan lab.
      
      I have seen earlier reports that the pattern of mutations in the original Covid virus was too unnatural and thus it was likely a modified in the lab creation. The key was comparing the early samples to the supposed precursor Rat-13G.
      
      Natural mutations should show certain statistical patterns – just as an example one in every 4 bases in the RNA has no affect on the amino acid coded for and so the mutation rate for these bases is different to those in the coding sections. The mutation rate in the Covid samples did not follow that pattern, and in addition one of the proteins made by the virus NOT related in infectivity showed almost no mutations at all, not even the inevitable random ones that accumulate at a certain rate in all viruses.
      
      Now, I haven’t seen further follow up to that paper so maybe the results are not solid, but maybe this is the same sort of evidence that this Chinese virologist is talking about. Hard to prove absolutely, but quite possible to infer as a reasonable conclusion from independent genetic data.
      
      Indeed be interesting to see what comes out. No doubt the Chinese have an extreme interest in suppressing or undermining any such evidence. Conversely some others have a stake in seeing Chinese malfeasance displayed; one can hope that we get to see the true origin revealed.
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:59pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        The mutation pattern is a key to this. Don’t have time to link but the earlier, expected mutations of SARS-CoV2 simply don’t exist. This is key.
        
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        September 14, 2020 7:40pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  This is not a new story and there is good reason to doubt the virus was lab-made.
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12354215
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:55am
  - Jimmy White
    
    Must be true Mike as you are an expert in making stuff up
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:49am
  - Nickc2
    
    Do people still believe what’s written in the NZ Herald? F_ng amazing.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:58am
  - Ed Snack
    
    That’s not a bad article, but very general. Also wrong about the precursor though of course the “consensus” may have changed.
    
    The Chinese claim that the closest relative to Covid is the Rat-13G virus, isolated in 2013 in 4 workers engaged in clearing bat guano from a mine in SW China. One problem is that no samples exist, only a genetic code recorded in files, which after all is just a sequence of letters which *could* have been created.
    
    Also, the Covid-19 virus has two quite distinct modifications in the spike protein, both of which are critical to its hugely enhanced infectivity, and both of which must have occurred more or less at the same time in a very short time frame. And those changes are both “known” sequences in other viruses where they promote infectivity.
    
    It is not impossible that the virus is natural, but neither is it improbable that the virus is in fact a lab modified virus created to study gain of function (so by no means nefarious in intention) which accidentally escaped from a lab known to be carrying out this exact sort of study on the exact sort of virus.
    
    And it is indeed useful to know what happened.
    
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    September 14, 2020 1:10pm
- RJ
  
  It will be interesting to see what she releases, until then people really cannot comment because they have no idea what she is going to release.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:57am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Fake news bro. Let’s keep movin.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:28am
- JackRabbit
  
  Not surprising since that is what the Wuhan lab was created for: Creating new bacteriophages (viruses) to deal with bacteria that have become resistant to anti-biotics. And it was part of a joint USA – Wuhan funding project put in place by Obama, and cancelled by Trump in April of this year. Who would have thought that a super virus identical to ones being created in a lab, would spontaneously “emerge” in a food market a few k’s away.
  
  If you see 7 million litres of contaminated water floating down a river not far from a chemical factory, and that causes health issues, you don’t blame the local food market for selling tofu, when you can stand and watch the chemicals foam their way down the river.
  
  Fort Detrick, in the USA, also involved in Virus creation, had their licence revoked and shut down in July last year for breach of contaminated waste disposal.
  
  Wuhan was shut down in October last year for breach of contaminated waste disposal.
  
  USA started observing a virus run rampant through Wuhan in November, less then a month after the containment breach.
  
  Creating and/or breeding viruses in order to create vaccines is a standard but unhealthy practise. It is also playing Russian Roulette. There is a polio virus sweeping a number of underdeveloped countries right now, caused by guess what? A polio vaccine. This one funded by the Bill Gates foundation.
  
  You loan your 18 year old son your old Toyota Starlet, and he keeps crashing it, often while speeding. You would be a real Dumb-ass if you gave him your Porsche 911 to use while the Toyota is at the panel beaters.
  
  If a Bill Gates funded Polio vaccine has created a Polio epidemic, you would be a real Dumb-ass if you let him anywhere near a Covid-19 vaccine.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:33am
fernglas

Apparently we mustn’t spread misinformation about Covid, or we might have the Police on our doorstep. What I need to know is what the misinformation is that I am not supposed to be spreading. Or is it just whatever happens to be deemed misinformation at any given time?
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September 14, 2020 8:06am
- JackRabbit
  
  I thought I heard a rumour that Stuff, Herald, and the PM’s offices were about raided for spreading dis-information. But the I awoke from the dream.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:44am
Maggie Pie

[Del. Why encourage these idiots – Mod.]
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September 14, 2020 8:09am
- Maggie Pie
  
  But see what you’ve done there Mod?
  Now everyone will be wondering what i posted.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:55am
Dairy Flat

Please don’t consider me impatient, but the SFO investigation into the NZ First Foundation seems to be taking a long time. Were we not assured it would be released prior to the original election date?
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September 14, 2020 8:12am
- KevO'Brien
  
  We were but Winston take umbrage readily and has probably threatened all involved.
  We really do need a mechanism to make the unfit in politics accountable.
  
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  September 14, 2020 12:26pm
MT_Tinman

I need a new television.

Can someone start a BLM march in Christchurch please?
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September 14, 2020 8:12am
- JackRabbit
  
  Muhammad Ali’s son says Muhammad would have hated the BLM agenda, as it’s racist.
  
  “It’s not just black lives matter, white lives matter, Chinese lives matter, all lives matter, everybody’s life matters. God loves everyone — he never singled anyone out. Killing is wrong no matter who it is,” Ali said during an hour-long interview with The Post.
  
  “They’re no different from Muslim terrorists. They should all get what they deserve. They’re f–king up businesses, beating up innocent people in the neighborhood, smashing up police stations and shops. They’re terrorists — they’re terrorizing the community. I agree with the peaceful protests, but the Antifa, they need to kill everyone in that thing.
  
  https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/muhammad-alis-son-says-he-wouldve-hated-black-lives-matters/
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:53am
emmess

Spot the difference

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-54139669

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54139312
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September 14, 2020 8:13am
- Critical Thinker
  
  “There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
  
  If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ”
  
  ― George Orwell, 1984
  
  https://twitter.com/sunrainmakerain/status/1305077561337102337
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:29am
  - oldfella
    
    FWIW, there’s a colourised movie version of ‘1984’ on YouTube.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl4kt4kUE88
    
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    September 14, 2020 11:21am
  - Critical Thinker
    
    The father of a mentally ill man who was stomped on the head by police while being arrested at Epping says his son is now in a coma as a result of the incident ?
    
    https://www.3aw.com.au/disgusting-furious-father-slams-victoria-police-over-violent-arrest/
    
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    September 14, 2020 3:25pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      I’ve seen several videos of this incident. First a Police car deliberately runs into the man, knocking him back several meters to the ground. Later four Police try to subdue the man, which is when an officer with his back to the camera stomps on the man’s head, with some degree of force. There’s also a suggestion that another of the officers kicks the man while he is lying on the ground. It’s sheer, unadulterated brutality, and an absolute disgrace.
      
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      September 14, 2020 3:43pm
oldpark

A statement of fact . Control Freak Ardern with her running mate her fear driven Coronavirus and Sycophants with their lack of common sense Management and Ineptitude as well as Intransigence made sure NZs Rugby Championship would be played in Australia.
Yet even though the dogs were were barking it . Silly wee girl Ardern put the boot into Sanzaar and said it was their fault,she figured that any type of lie is better than none . A sad day for the sport loving nation of NZs Five Million .And an indictment of someone out of their depth when a real common sense decision gets vetoed by Arderns “Narcissistic Personality Disorder”.
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September 14, 2020 8:24am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Nobody cares about Rugby and everybody cares about their dear life. They are in eternal gratitude towards Cindy for saving their dear lives.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:29am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Ardern hasn’t saved 1 single life. Her hubris is setting her up for an enormous fall, and it may just be next month.
    She has mocked God too–not smart.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:30pm
- Bykmad
  
  Our Prime Minister, “The Vapid Narcisist”.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:33am
Swifty

A great little debate and yarn about the ‘Decolonise Education’ movement in the UK and featuring, among others, Katharine Birpalsingh – a leading thinker and practician of returning some common sense to education and how we best prepare young people for their lives in the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXiCdWr4cw

An interesting tidbit – Katharine was born in New Zealand.
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September 14, 2020 8:26am
- Sacha
  
  Gosh that young student was bright! Polite and pretty as well.
  And Katherine is impressive.
  I rather liked the ambience of that discussion group.
  But it brought back the old saying – those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:15pm
  - Swifty
    
    Glad that you liked it Sacha.
    
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    September 14, 2020 3:25pm
Maggie Pie

We were listening to ZB Breakfast earlier.
They ran a ‘Watercare’ ad, suggesting a number innovative ways on how to save 20 litres a day.
Someone sounding spookily like CEO Raveen Jaduram was saying “…. when he showers, he catches the waste water in a bucket and uses it to wash his car”.

Like my partner said, “He would. That’s the beauty of having a company car”
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September 14, 2020 8:27am
- mark15
  
  How do you shower and catch the water in a bucket?
  Do you stand in it?Is the bucket 4 feet wide?
  I think he’s lying.
  
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  September 14, 2020 8:45am
- Catgurl13
  
  I know a watercare engineer who when I asked him about this fiasco said, the levels have dropped to very low levels in the dam because there was a miscalculation, and watercare let the water out of the dam at the wrong time. They dump the water at a certain as it gets too full …so it’s actually their own fault we are in a crisis.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:12am
  - tf78
    
    That’s exactly what they did in our last water crisis only that time it was for dam repairs. Why can’t they just sort their shit out and build another dam below the existing one.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:31am
    - Jimmy White
      
      Damn the dam cried the fantail,
      As he flew into the sky,
      To give power to the Council
      All this beauty has to die
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:54am
      - Komata
        
        Jimmy@0954
        
        Your age is showing Sir…
        
        (Just saying).
        
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        September 14, 2020 11:03am
  - Odakyu-sen
    
    I assume that Watercare would keep logs of when water is let out of the dams.
    It’s a shame this information is not in the public domain.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:41am
- tf78
  
  Maggie, I have come up with a plan so cunning that you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel – I am going to run the hose directly into the watering can and have a continual flow without directly using “the outdoor hose” for watering. Do you think it will work.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:29am
  - Jimmy White
    
    Take the hose, strip and shower in the flower bed.
    If you charge the neighbours to watch you could be on to a winner.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:57am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    And the other thing they suggest, is using a ‘Pool Cover’ to avoid evaporation. Lucky for us, my partner has a mate in the Fire Brigade.
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:14am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  and you Jaffas pay this clown 850,000 a year to do nothing! No wonder we are the Banana Republic of the South Pacific.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:31am
  - Nickc2
    
    He was hired by a Labour Mayor!
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:54am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Hes gone now, he fell on his sword with a seven figure payout.
    
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    September 14, 2020 2:58pm
Flossie

Must be extra grumpy this morning.
If I hear “talk us through…” again I will scream. This time it was something to do with Grand Designs host being interviewed.
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September 14, 2020 8:32am
Swifty

The Greens slap the faces of New Zealand food growers:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/country/425966/greens-warned-fertiliser-tax-will-create-pressure-on-farmers

Hard.
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September 14, 2020 8:35am
- JackRabbit
  
  That’s OK, just don’t allow the Greens to purchase anything grown on a farm, or for that matter anything created out of petroleum. So…
  
  Picture the Greens running around naked, trying to catch wild rabbits…
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:37pm
BAM

Next hit job coming up.
I see Presland over on the Standard has a post up about it

https://businessdesk.co.nz/article/services/national-candidates-questionable-exit-from-tech-firm
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September 14, 2020 8:44am
Fisiani2

When faced with a ballot paper what would make you tick National for the party vote? A belief that National will make New Zealand a better place to live. That should be obvious. Labour have already dropped the ball on housing, children, trees, and covid protection. Too big a risk. You cannot live in a slogan or eat a slogan. Smiles do not create jobs. Vote for a better future.
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September 14, 2020 8:47am
MT_Tinman

The headline: Criminal lawyer: Police should’ve taken tougher stance on anti-lockdown protestors

Shouldn’t they be talking to lawyers who aren’t criminals or are there none left?
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September 14, 2020 9:01am
- lifesgood
  
  Good one, Tinman, great to have a laugh in the morning.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:41am
Rusty

Thousands of people protesting on the streets of Melbourne during the weekend over the extreme lock down measures with over 70 people arrested.

But here in NZ our media aren’t interested on whats going over there — probably because its a lefty labour govt running Victoria?
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September 14, 2020 9:12am
- tf78
  
  I heard that Cahill policeman say to Mike Hosking that he’d been talking to his comrades in Melbourne over the weekend – Oh great, getting more ideas for here!
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:34am
  - Rusty
    
    On the Outsiders programme on Aust Sky news they referred to the chief of Victorian police as Chief Wiggum from the Simpsons.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:48am
Maggie Pie

I’m so pleased we decided to get a holiday home at Tindalls.
Honestly, that guy who’s Mayor of Queenstown is such a bloody moaner.
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September 14, 2020 9:13am
- Dougal10
  
  He’s just upset that lining his pockets with other peoples money has slowed down during covid cindys crisis
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:18am
DeepBlue

Time for National to bring back the boat adverts. This time with Jacinda trying to row by herself and all the Labour ministers who are in witness protection cowering below decks, supping at the captains table. Maybe H1 as the captain.
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September 14, 2020 9:14am
- tf78
  
  DeepBlue, I always liked the dancing Cossack’s, which would be most appropriate right now.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:36am
  - Tall Man
    
    https://youtu.be/IbevFguT6NE
    
    Difficult these days.
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:51am
  - sooty
    
    H1, as the captain?
    I don’t think so, she was competent and cindy has been a cluster, ever since she was elected!
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:52am
  - Swifty
    
    For young KB readers or those new to the country:
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbevFguT6NE
    
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    September 14, 2020 9:56am
    - Classic Liberal
      
      Thanks. I think we sometimes use so many references that new people won’t know what we’re on about 🙂
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:44pm
Catgurl13

I was quite disappointed in Judith’s campaign video. It seems like she was just reading lines with no expression,only a tiny bit at the end. Not very convincing really. I’m still.looking at voting Act.
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September 14, 2020 9:16am
- Tall Man
  
  cindy thanks you for your vote of confidence.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:44am
  - Catgurl13
    
    I would never vote for Cindy….2 ticks Act for me……. Cindy’s one is worse,she looks like a jabbering Barbie doll.
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:15am
    - Tall Man
      
      I realise that but unless you are in Epsom your electorate vote for Act denies a more likely National candidate a chance therefore gifts the seat to labour if enough cast their vote this way.
      
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      September 15, 2020 7:58am
- Flossie
  
  National would be on a hiding to nothing to dare suggest our PM is not competent. JC would just need to hint at it and she’d be toast with so many voters. playing nicely is possibly the best option – at this stage. Ramp it up closer to.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:18am
- bruceavon
  
  Yes. I know what you mean. I don’t know why they had to say “yes, we had to have historic debt”. It sounds like an endorsement of the government. It’s true, but don’t mention it. They should focus on how they would do a better job of borders as well as the recovery. We have a proven track record, a better team etc.
  Labour’s one pretty boring, to be fair. And I don’t know if these ads will make any difference these days. If they do they will be the ones that come later.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:32am
- tf78
  
  Catgurl – I had similar thoughts until Judith said this morning they had to make it before the latest lockdown as they didn’t know what Chairman Cindy was going to do, but there are a lot more fun ones coming.
  
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  September 14, 2020 12:22pm
I remember when

Published Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of USA:
Human forays into East Polynesia may have been because of drought and climate change.
The study contrasts with rapid migration theories, instead, authors propose an incremental process extending over multiple generations. It coincided with some of the driest weather in the last two millennia.
Biochemical analyses of plant fossils from Samoa, Vanuatu and areas west of the Southern Cook Islands identify 800-1000 AD as a period of exceptional aridity.
The DRIEST of the last 2000 years.
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September 14, 2020 9:17am
hullkiwi

Boy has Garner gone feral against Ardern. Once upon a time, many on here accused Garner of being a closet leftie, but his attacks on Ardern and Labour suggest he is anything but. The funny thing watching the AM Show in the morning, is Ruby Lips. She just doesn’t know what to say these days, being in between Garner and Richardson.

This morning Garner went full nuclear over the failure of the government to support NZ Rugby over the hosting of the Rugby Championship. Garner questioned where were the benefits of “the going hard, and going early”, if all we’ve got is a financial hole. He raised the question of where was the plan to get us out of it and Richardson added (unquestioned) that Ardern didn’t have a plan to get us out of the hole.

It does nothing else, it certainly makes better viewing than watching John Campbell.
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September 14, 2020 9:20am
- Ian Boag
  
  As soon as the borders closed there was a financial hole. Some people (many on KB) think they should have been closed earlier. The hole would have happened earlier. We are a bit short of ideas on how to fill it.
  
  What is so special about opening the borders for rugby fans?
  
  Jim Boult would quite reasonably make a case for Aussie skiers. Orchardists want RSEs. Arable farmers want harvester drivers. Dairy farmers want their work visa managers back. Unis want their foreign students. Campervan companies want someone to rent their fleet at a reasonable price.
  
  Perhaps we should just do what we can to shelter oldies and otherwise ignore covid and get on with life. “Just a flu” for the non-oldies. Don’t waste money on testing and contact tracing and stuff if we aren’t going to do anything with the info.
  
  Aside from locking up retirement villages I’n not sure what “sheltering the oldies” means. FWIW I am 75, reasonably healthy AFAIK and I live with my wife in the house in PN that we have occupied for the last 40 years.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:51am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Ian the financial hole began appearing before our borders were closed. Crayfish exports and forestry exports (and the communities supporting workers in these industries) were all suffering in February, if you recall. Or is that something we are meant to overlook.
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:05am
    - Ian Boag
      
      I guess I’ll get a downtick blizzard here …
      
      Financial hole from losing tourism int students was some tens of billions. GDP = a bit under $300bn and the hole was 15-20% of that. Call it $50bn I guess. About the same as what a foot and mouth outbreak would do to the dairy industry.
      
      Not to overlook forestry/crayfish ….
      
      Forestry – $6bn in the year to Feb 2020. 48% going to China. China turned all that off in Jan. Nobody’s fault really.
      
      The outbreak of coronavirus forced the shut-down of restaurants in China in the middle of Chinese New Year celebrations in late January. – I forget where I found this.
      
      And knocked crayfish exports to China on the head. Currently they have recovered to record levels. All external circumstances.
      
      Go figure ….
      
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      December 14, 2019 11:42am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        2 ticks but you did get slaughtered – not really surprising but not for what you thought .
        Personally agree generally with both posts. Aged care facilities are in effect under L4 conditions “mandated” by the industry ( not government) and given today’s decision will most likely remain so for quite a while. For the rest of us oldies it is simply personal responsibility as to how we avoid infection, something most on this site actually do understand I think, despite a “bit” of rhetoric to the contrary.
        
        Your latter post re F&M set off another train of thought for me however, mainly as I spent many years in that industry. How come NZ for it’s economic survival has successfully quarantined that virus “humanely” for animals entering this country for decades longer than I have lived, yet we cannot seem to do it for humans for a few months/maybe a year odd?
        To me the answer is fairly simple. The systems required are well established, proven and obviously effective. The difference is that for some reason our current government can’t distinguish that the difference between treating animals in isolation “humanely” and people in isolation “humanly” is too difficult and would cost some additional $s that for their political reasons they consider better placed elsewhere. So much for love and kindness.
        
        Finally FWIW while having disagreed with some of your logic arguments circa mid seventies AFAIK 🙂 on various matters, your premise re rugby has an incorrect base assumption so I’ll repeat my prior argumentative behavior. The issue here is not incoming risk from fans but the unwillingness of a government (and bureaucrats) to be pragmatic and recognize that no one size fits all in respect to quarantine group size. I hardly think that the corporate employers of the players are going to risk their investment by allowing breaches that destroy the return they expect to receive and the NRL in Aus already provides examples. We are not all rugby fans but the country as a whole loses out on an economic and “well being” level.
        Rest of your arguments spot on.
        
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        September 14, 2020 8:24pm
  - RW Capitalist
    
    “As soon as the borders closed there was a financial hole. Some people (many on KB) think they should have been closed earlier. The hole would have happened earlier. We are a bit short of ideas on how to fill it.”
    Utter BS
    Closed the boarders earlier…Covid19 does not get here.
    Tourism was headed to a hole regardless of what we did…other countries were already in lock down….ie no tourists to come.
    What it would have done.
    1. Kept the rest of the economy OPEN!!
    2. Kept the disease away for 4-6months, while we prepared for the inevitable arrival of returning NZers that we would have had to take.
    eg quarantine facilities in remote areas eg military
    bases
    stock pile of PPE
    Training of personnel
    etc
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:18am
- DeepBlue
  
  Garner’s opinion piece on the weekend was that he is good friends with quite a few of the Mt Roskill Fellowship. To sum up … they are good people, hard workers.
  
  With first hand knowledge of what is happening there, he will be one to watch re the pulse of South Auckland.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:58am
  - hullkiwi
    
    Yes, I heard Garner last week about this. He was in full attack mode against Adern and Goff over this matter.
    
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    September 14, 2020 3:01pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  There was a hole once Grant got his hands on the Reserve Bank. Helicopter money for nothing but the cost of the future.
  
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  September 14, 2020 12:35pm
RiP NZ

2 more police officers shot in cowards ambush,
It was mostly peaceful though…..
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September 14, 2020 9:21am
- Tall Man
  
  White cops?
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:40am
- Tony Stuart
  
  It was at least 93% peaceful. The only time there was any violence was when the perp shot the two Police Officers from close range.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:42am
- Raphael
  
  but we meant to be outraged at Trump because he described the feral animals who shot the cops as being animals…..
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:50am
- kowtow
  
  ‘A handful of protesters gathered outside the hospital where the injured deputies were being treated. The protesters tried to provoke deputies stationed outside and at one point were prevented from entering the emergency room, Bishop Juan Carlos Mendez with the Churches in Action group told the US TV station KABC.
  
  “Unacceptable behaviour. The hospital should be a sanctuary, we should leave hospitals alone,” he said. Mendez and members of his group gathered nearby in prayer for the wounded deputies.’
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:46am
I remember when

Don’t you just love being at the forefront of experimental technology by local Councils.
From a North Taranaki Midweek article.
Sonar survey to assess condition of failed $2 million South Taranaki artificial reef.
The project, which began in 2006, involved pumping sand into giant “geotextile” bags to create a wave-making reef at Opunake Beach.
Budget of $1.1m, blew out to $2m, with South Taranaki District Council losing $1.5m to the development.
TRC resource management director said “Council has so far spent $10,000 on divers to assess the reef’s current state.”
Bag fragments have been removed and a bag removal method successfully trialled.
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September 14, 2020 9:31am
- Paulus
  
  Did similar at Mt Maunganui a few years ago
  – did not work so fell apart boom boom !
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:39am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Yep,
  all the rave back in the early 2000s…
  https://www.nzgeo.com/stories/artificial-surf-reefs-coming-to-a-beach-near-you/
  
  The plans to install one at Lyall Bay never got off the ground.
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:07pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Time to repurpose our universities?

After 180 years of colonial arrogance and 40 years of neo-liberal ideologies that have entrenched inequality and devastated communities, institutions and landscapes across Aotearoa, the time has come to reconsider how universities are run and for whom,

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/anne-salmond-knowledge-is-a-blessing-on-your-mind
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September 14, 2020 9:35am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  “Aotearoa” is a woke indicator.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:43am
- Swifty
  
  Is it just me or was that a great load of waffle?
  
  Also, “…..and 40 years of neo-liberal ideologies that have entrenched inequality and devastated communities, institutions and landscapes across Aotearoa.”
  
  Put up alternatives, Dr Salmond, and we shall discuss them.
  
  Until then, I urge New Zealanders to stick with the greatest system of delivering the greatest prosperity and freedom to the most people that the world has ever known – when every other system ever tried has lead to famine, great slaughter, political concentration camps, oppression and misery for the population.
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:51am
- Jack5
  
  Salmond, a professor in the soft “science” of anthropology, has made a career of Maori studies, and this shows she’s also at least a sympathiser of the Woke/Cancellation/BLM movement.
  
  This gives her free, 24-hour pass to the State media: Radio NZ, TVNZ, and the State-subsidised print media.
  
  Wikipedia tells us Salmond’s Ph.D. thesis at the University of Pennsylvania was titled “Hui – a study of Maori ceremonial gatherings.”
  
  Of course, Salmond would want Maori studies pushed to the top of the university tree.
  
  Salmond’s diatribe is further evidence of pressure to Maorify our universities, which are institutions at the core of Western learning.
  
  The pressure for Otago Medical School to let preferential low-marks entry for Maori be uncapped is another indication of what’s happening.
  
  Because of physical limitations, uncapped low-marks entry must mean eventually such students must gradually swamp the school, and thus destroy its standards.
  
  Meanwhile, what of wananga? These three taxpayer-funded tertiary institutions were set up to provide for Maori knowledge, and approaches to learning.
  
  Isn’t Maorification of universities thus a strategy of what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is at least half mine?
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:57am
  - Jack5
    
    Many are subtly influencing people think the move to cap preferential entry to Otago Medical School is a cap on numbers of Maori and ethnic Pacific Islanders who can train for doctors. That’s a lie. The core of the issue is special low-marks entry.
    
    An example of the distortion is the headline on the NZ Herald web site:
    
    Otago University staffer claims
    senior leadership tried to push
    medical admissions caps
    
    The move would restrict the numbers of these ethnic groups who can gain preferential entry with lower marks than those required ofAsian or white or African students.
    
    Maori and Pacific Islands students could still gain entry by passing at or above the normal pass-mark cut-off.
    
    There are physical and financial limits on how many students can be trained. So eventually, uncapped low-marks entry must reduce standards by squeezing out brighter non-Maori, non-Pacific Islander candidates.
    
    Brighter Maori and Pacific Islander students who would have gained entry even without low-marks preference would then also suffer from lower standards at the Medical School.
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:22am
    - Odakyu-sen
      
      Isn’t it racist to assist or restrict entry to medical school due to race?
      Is the notion that “our people” must have doctors who are “our people” also racist?
      “Diversity” is rooted in the notion that races are not the same, which is why the admission levels must be tuned to match the race.
      
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      September 14, 2020 10:55am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      Jack5 has properly identified the issue. I know Kiwibloggers have trouble with the Maori and Pasifica admissions schemes but they are here to stay.
      The problem at Otago is that the advocates want no cap to the scheme. That is, the Medical School would admit every Maori or Pasifica student whose marks are below the normal cutoff. Effectively ahead of everyone else. It could result in virtually the entire entrant class having marks below the normal cutoff.
      Otago already has a very generous preferential Maori and Pasifica admission scheme. Already 20% of the intake are Maori and about 10% are Pasifica. Not all would have needed to use the scheme, but many will have.
      In my view the University has to resist the pressure from the advocates to uncap the scheme. Will they be able to do so?
      
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      September 14, 2020 11:23am
      - JackRabbit
        
        The only problem I have with the the Maori and Pasifica admissions schemes, is that they are racist, patronizing and condescending.
        
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        September 14, 2020 12:08pm
      - Classic Liberal
        
        “ uncapped low-marks entry must reduce standards by squeezing out brighter non-Maori, non-Pacific Islander candidates.”
        
        Actually, *any* low-marks entry must reduce standards by squeezing out brighter candidates.
        
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        September 14, 2020 1:00pm
      - GJM
        
        The reason why my doctor is a white European. Why settle for second best? Of course, the individual may have got here on their merits, but why chance it?
        
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        September 14, 2020 9:31pm
  - hilaryt
    
    Yes. What of wananga, indeed. I mean, hasn’t this lefty march through the institutions’ going on for years now achieved exactly what they hoped? Some of my cuzzies couldn’t afford to attend a tertiary institution cos no loans, no fees-free, little chance if parents didn’t live in a big smoke with one. This is nothing but hogwash from someone who knows better.
    
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    September 14, 2020 11:16am
lifesgood

I usually like Tim Wilson but last night on talk back, OMG. He has lost a lot of my admiration. He clearly adores Jacinda so I turned him off. That’s it, I’m not listening to him again or his (mostly) brain dead callers.
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September 14, 2020 9:39am
- Jimmy White
  
  Tim who?
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:02am
- hilaryt
  
  It’s odd that so many people with a public podium don’t regard a little mystery as a good thing when it comes to their politics…
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:38am
  - Swifty
    
    I listened to Geoff Robinson on Nat Rad since the 70s and you never got a hint of what his politics were.
    
    A man I greatly admire.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:17pm
    - Durden
      
      Add Peter Williams to that. He did his job at TVNZ exactly the same way. He is of course different on Magic Talk after his official retirement from TVNZ.
      
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      September 14, 2020 2:33pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Give Dan the boot
Melburnians don’t do teddy bears….

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190316253001
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September 14, 2020 9:39am
- Classic Liberal
  
  Looks like a good idea for people who do want to be careful of their health but still hold libertarian views that people should take voluntary actions re social distancing and masks.
  
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  September 14, 2020 1:05pm
lifesgood

Tweet of the day by RosieB ” Do people who still adore Ardern have any idea what normal people think of them?”
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September 14, 2020 9:48am
- Swifty
  
  Excellent.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:12am
Maggie Pie

A cop from Alabama tweets…..

“Hillbilly murders are the hardest to solve. They don’t have dental records and all their DNA is the same”
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September 14, 2020 9:50am
RJ

Interesting, got our first piece of political junk mail today from advance New Zealand. It went straight in the fire place. Just over a month to go, nothing from national, labour, greens, nz first or act.
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September 14, 2020 9:53am
- Tall Man
  
  We have received plenty here and we are rural.
  
  Maybe your “postie” is censoring your mail 🙂
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:08am
  - RJ
    
    Must complain then, he should of censored the jami lee bullshit junk mail.
    
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    September 14, 2020 10:20am
- Flossie
  
  We’ve had National stuff
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:21am
- ex-golfer
  
  My mailbox clearly says “no circulars”.
  Of course the people dropping their electoral crap off have no respect for peoples property, so I save up all of Labours junk and deliver them back to the foyer of Fraser House with a message “If you ignore my signs and litter my mailbox, I will return the favour”.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:58am
  - Swifty
    
    And real estate agents.
    
    I have rung a few of them and given them a burst.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:21pm
Okahu

That’s a bad business over there on the West Coast of the US. Thankfully their Dear Leader is heading out there to learn them on the art of appropriate forest raking. I hope he dampens the paper towels he hands out. Maybe Melania’s tears would do it? You can produce tears of joy from schadenfreude can’t you? Actually why waste the time visiting losers and suckers! Turn the plane around and get a hangar rally going somewhere the sneer fest at the coastal elite and Hollywood libruls can run riot. Sending thoughts and prayers baby. Thoughts and prayers.
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September 14, 2020 9:54am
Graham Sharpe

Re Chloe and her couch. She says it’s the most valuable thing she owns. Really? Does she not have a Kiwisaver account? Her MP salary is $160 000. So a minimum of 3% from her and the employer contribution of 2% (3% less FBT) is 5%. So at minimum after 3 years her balance would be about $24 000 plus IRD rebate plus earnings. Much more than the couch, and then she may be involved in the Green’s own super scheme. So saying the couch is the most expensive thing she owns could very well be untrue. There are only three reasons someone says something that is untrue. Malice, delusion or ignorance. I leave it to readers to decide which applies, but at the very least she displays a lack of financial comprehension that is alarming in an MP.
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September 14, 2020 10:11am
- RJ
  
  She doesn’t own her KiwiSaver, it is an investment, I doubt when most people think of what they own they think of KiwiSaver.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:19am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    Of course she owns her Kiwi Saver, like you say, its an investment like shares or money in the bank.
    Who owns your Kiwisaver?
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:24pm
    - RJ
      
      Let me know after this financial crisis from the virus hits full steam just how much of your kiwi saver you own.
      
      But as I said people don’t really see investments as something that they own. It’s not a physical something, it is just an investment.
      
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      September 14, 2020 2:15pm
      - Bobba Fret
        
        I still own 100% of my Kiwisaver just like every other person in KS. Your comment doesn’t make sense. Yes it has reduced in value but I still own it. And as such its an asset that would appear on a balance sheet…….to be an asset it doesn’t have to be something you have to be able to touch (or sit on). Not everyone’s most valuable thing they own is their house even, maybe they own more in shares or Royalties.
        
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        September 14, 2020 3:58pm
- graham
  
  Yep. According to the MPs Register of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests, Chloe Swarbrick is registered as having declared the following interests:
  
  Company directorships and controlling interests:
  “What’s Good Limited” (not trading) –internet publishing and broadcasting
  
  Superannuation schemes:
  ANZ KiwiSaver
  
  Investment schemes:
  One Answer Multi Asset Class Fund – ANZ
  
  I guess it depends on how one defines “things you own”.
  
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  September 14, 2020 10:53am
Swifty

Would any cockies on here care to mention their experiences of the slink market this season?
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September 14, 2020 10:30am
I remember when

As decision time approaches and we wait:
Of course, Shaun Hendry appears explaining the dangers of coming out of level early.
The Red Hair lady on twitter@davidfarrier – how fast social media pulls someone from a fairly neutral position to believing false information.
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September 14, 2020 10:42am
- ex-golfer
  
  Shaun Hendy – the guy that modelled 80,000 deaths in NZ without lockdowns or contract tracing:
  https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120604818/new-model-shows-coronavirus-could-kill-80000-kiwis-without-lockdown
  
  Of course Hendy’s modelling was based on the Imperial College modelling – who’s main author had to resign in disgrace at the poor assumptions he made:
  https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace/
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:14am
  - JackRabbit
    
    Modelling is what you use when you don’t have data or can’t be bothered getting actual data.
    
    Plan A: – Researcher. Objective Research Method.
    a) Test for Anti-bodies to establish infection rate.
    b) Establish baseline moralities, including co-morbidities, then objectively compare with new data.
    
    Plan B: – Arm Chair theorist. Lazy Man Method.
    a) Don’t leave your office or do any actual work. Apply for a handout to do your ‘research’.
    b) Create spreadsheet after spreadsheet all based on assumptions made without actual data. Usually copied from someone’s work.
    
    There is a reason why educational high school exams / projects/ tertiary science degrees used to insist on the following:
    
    a) Don’t assume. Carry out the research. Don’t just copy some else’s testing. Include copies of research and testing with your submission. Cheating results in a fail.
    b) Show your working out i.e. how you arrived at the conclusions. Having the right answer but no working out, results in a fail.
    
    I’m not sure what passes for educational science these days, but it is not scientific methodology.
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:25pm
I remember when

Is this the Election of information overload?
Are we being bombarded with a online social media blitz organised by Guerin Topham? A continuous presentation of items/stories the Media can run with.
The intention is obviously to make anti Jacinda/Labour facts doubtful, possible or actual false information.
Just keep saying the same things over and over until they become facts to the voter.
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September 14, 2020 10:53am
gump

Oh dear. Another National candidate has hit the skids:

“He wants to be New Zealand’s first tech minister, but National candidate Jake Bezzant had to leave his job at a technology firm after disagreements over multi-million dollar contracts and ‘fantasy’ projects, including a Texas development now mired in bankruptcy and fraud allegations.”

National candidate’s questionable exit from tech firm – businessdesk.co.nz
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September 14, 2020 10:54am
- Durden
  
  Seems like a sensible guy with principles. Not sure where you get “hit the skids” from. Fake news heading ?
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:35pm
- Prince
  
  Looking forward to the public revelations about David Parker’s history.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:39pm
ex-golfer

So the Maori Party are trying their hardest to consign themselves into permanent history with these sorts of stupid policies:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/m-ori-party-reveals-policy-change-nzs-name-aotearoa-make-history-core-part-school-curriculum
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September 14, 2020 11:02am
- graham
  
  Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
  
  But, someone’s having a laugh, surely? Please tell me we have a new April Fools Day in September and I’m the only numpty who hasn’t realised.
  
  Surely they can’t be serious with these policy points:
  
  – Change New Zealand’s name to Aotearoa by 2026.
  – Replace all Pākeha place names, cities and towns to their orignal Māori ingoa by 2026.
  – Invest $50 million into the establishment of a Māori standards authority; an independent statutory entity whose role will be to audit all public service departments against cultural competency standards, including the monitoring and auditing of language plans.
  – Establish Te Marama o te reo Māori.
  – Double Te Mātāwai funding ($28 million).
  – Remunerate primary and secondary schools and kaiako based on their competency of Te Reo Māori.
  – Ensure that Te Reo Māori and Māori history are core curriculum subjects up to year 10.
  – Invest $40 million for early childhood to secondary school kaiako to develop their reo.
  – Require all primary schools to incorpoate Te Reo Māori into 25 per cent of their curriculum by 2026 and 50 per cent by 2030.
  – Invest $20 million into the development of Te Reo Māori resources.
  – Require all state funded broadcasters (workforce) across all mediums to have a basic fluency level of Te Reo Māori.
  
  Change our country’s name, and ALL place names? Remunerate primary and secondary schools and kaiako (whatever the hell they are) based on their competency of Te Reo Māori?
  
  Require all primary schools to incorporate Te Reo Māori into 25 per cent of their curriculum by 2026 and 50 per cent by 2030. What the hell?! That’s nuts. This is just batsh!t crazy. Do they seriously expect maths, science and – ahem – English to be taught half in Maori? How stupid.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:34am
  - Swifty
    
    There was a report published recently (on Stuff or NZH, I’ll see if I can dig it out) that said 47% of NZ youngsters leave school with the reading and numeracy levels of 12 year olds or lower.
    
    That’s right. Nearly half of our kids leave school with reading and maths levels of 12 year olds, or worse!!!!!
    
    And this is the response of the Maori Party?
    
    These people aren’t just stupid, they are a menace. And that goes for the Greens too. They are just as reckless and foolhardy.
    
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/te-reo-maori/122740924/election-2020-greens-focus-on-free-te-reo-mori-education-to-help-fill-void-in-classrooms
    
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    September 14, 2020 11:50am
    - JackRabbit
      
      The falling education standards are a result of the drift away from the English language.
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:30pm
  - Loddenthinks
    
    “Remunerate primary and secondary schools and kaiako based on their competency of Te Reo Māori.”
    
    Oh dear, the unions don’t allow that sort of thing. Everyone’s equal don’t you know, and any differences are accidental and not to the credit (or detriment) of the teacher or teaching establishment. To do otherwise would be admitting that some teachers are better than others, and you know there’s no such thing.
    
    Having never heard of the term before, Google advises me that a kaiako is a teacher which is of course mildly interesting for someone who’s into that sort of thing to know, but I am not particularly into that sort of thing and would prefer to be able to understand what you mean by means of you using English words, or at least words in one language. If you choose that language to be other than English, I’ll understand it very well in French and passingly in Dutch, Spanish, German and Italian. So I’m into languages, albeit exclusively ones useful in the world.
    
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    September 14, 2020 2:27pm
- Cobolt24
  
  I respected them under Te Ururoa Flavell. This new bunch are a joke.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:43am
- Lance
  
  They used clever tactics and positioning when Pita Sharples and Turiana were at the helm.
  They achieved far more for Maori than their political ‘size’ should have allowed working with National.
  Alas the grown ups have gone and the screaming halfwits have taken over.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:47am
  - Nickc2
    
    At least these screeming halfwits are now Labour’s problem. On the plus side, Willy Jackson will now have someone he can communicate with on a level playing field should any of them gain a seat.
    
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    September 14, 2020 1:13pm
- Ruahine
  
  Labour is also going to change the country’s name to Aotearoa. This will be done next term. It is going to be done in stages like Mt Cook/Aoraki was which is now become Aoraki/Mt Cook. It will slowly be introduced internationally. Aotearoa will become the legal name internally. The name New Zealand will disappear almost immediately within the country. You will NOT be asked about this. The Maori Party is just being honest. Years of brainwashing in the schools will ensure that this is ‘all good’.
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:50am
  - Raphael
    
    and NZTA is now going by Waka Kotahi
    
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    September 14, 2020 1:14pm
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yeah I see that – I guarantee that 99 percent of Maori call it NZTA.
      
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      September 14, 2020 1:32pm
      - graham
        
        The same thing has happened with Housing New Zealand. It is now called Kainga Ora.
        
        My daughter was looking into the first home buyer’s grant – we Googled it and it took us to the Kainga Ora site. We had no idea what it was, or what it meant. We ended up Googling the name to find out if this was genuine.
        
        Whereas the name “Housing New Zealand” gives you a pretty good idea what its about.
        
        Madness.
        
        Oh, and if they’re hoping this will encourage people to use the Maori terms in everyday conversation, they can think again. We just continued to use the terms first home buyer’s grant or Housing New Zealand, because funnily enough, everybody knows what you’re talking about.
        
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        September 14, 2020 2:26pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  At least he’s a doer. Labour MP’s can’t even deliver houses or rugby.
  
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  September 14, 2020 12:41pm
- trout
  
  We are once again expected to feel guilty because Maori (according to Dover Samuels) were beaten for speaking te reo at school. I understood that it was common knowledge that Maori leaders demanded that Maori kids be forced to learn English so that they could make it in the real world. ‘Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose’
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:15pm
lifesgood

Every day for about the last week someone has been leaking the latest covid cases from government well ahead of the announcement. And Kag Night Shift has been announcing it on twitter. Today they have leaked there is one new case associated with the cluster, and no new border cases. Let’s see if they are right. They have been right every day so far. Someone in govt or MOH is leaking, they must be as brassed off as we all are, oh dear, how sad, never mind.
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September 14, 2020 11:04am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Yes that information’s spot on. Uncanny coincidence, in the absence of foul play.
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:08pm
fernglas

Great article in “Lockdown Sceptics” pointing out that the false positive rate for Covid testing, at about 2%, is roughly the same as the percentage of positive tests reported in the UK.

“The standard COVID-19 RT-PCR test results have a consistent positive rate of ≤ 2% which also appears to be the likely false positive rate (FPR), rendering the number of official ‘cases’ virtually meaningless. The likely low virus prevalence (~0.02%) is consistent with as few as 1% of the 6,100+ Brits now testing positive each week in the wider community (pillar 2) tests actually having the disease.”
https://lockdownsceptics.org/
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September 14, 2020 11:22am
- Okahu
  
  Good news. The Ferngas statistical method has discovered hardly anyone is actually dying of Covid. But bad news, there appears to be an epidemic of similar symptom, but now unidentified disease filling icu’s and morgues the world over. Oh bugga!
  
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  September 14, 2020 4:26pm
Inandout

I dipped my toes into Twitter this morning and my God what a toxic lot Jacinda’s soldier ants are; I mean really, really nasty. I return to the sanity of Kiwiblog.
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September 14, 2020 11:31am
- Swifty
  
  I hope you’ve learnt your lesson.
  
  🙂
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:54am
rockape

Shakespear said” A coward dies a thousand times before his death but the valiant taste death but once”
Seems Kiwis are dying those thousand deaths, fear is what is paralyzing this country and will do irreparable harm. Covid needs to be faced and we need to man up and take sensible precautions. Those mean looking after the elderly and frail and isolating those with Covid. Let the rest of us get on with life or we will be still hiding from Covid in 2022.
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September 14, 2020 11:36am
- ex-golfer
  
  +1000
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:47am
- Sigmund Freud
  
  Don’t you mean … Let the rest of us get on with life or we will be still hiding from Covid in 2122?
  
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  September 14, 2020 11:57am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Cindy will still be your PM!!
    
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    September 14, 2020 12:09pm
    - Inandout
      
      Sir, at least until she wins again, gets them over the line, and steps down. Job done because she is not up to handling the debt crisis coming.
      
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      September 14, 2020 12:29pm
- fightingtemeraire
  
  Julius Caesar
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:34pm
Belinda

Everyday I wake up and check our country is still called New Zealand.
Now that we have finally reached the point where most people in the worldrealise we arent part of Australia, why the hell would we change it now.
I saw a job advertised in maori, had no idea what the job was but on checking, everyone in the company had a maori title .
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September 14, 2020 12:10pm
- Jade Warrior
  
  I’ve made this point a few times in the past but it’s worth repeating because it’s perhaps the only way you can oppose the insidious attempt to change our nation’s name without being called racist … the word “Aotearoa” looks too similar to the word “Australia” (type them immediately above and below each other on a word document and you’ll see what I mean).
  
  Many of us fret about the fact that our national flags look too alike. How would we like to further confuse the issue by having a similar looking name too?
  
  And yes, I have no problems distinguishing between “Australia” and “Austria” either. But those two countries are far apart on a map of the world. Australia and New Zealand – not so much.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:35pm
Flossie

I am part Maori, but I’m also lots of part European (mainly Scottish and a bit English). I am proud of the efforts of all my ancestors in creating this wonderful country we live in…New Zealand!!
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September 14, 2020 12:43pm
Nickc2

Dissension in the ranks of the Victorian Police in Aust. Imagine the outcry if our Police behaved like this?
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/09/as-one-of-her-majestys-erstwhile-constables-of-police-in-victoria-id-resign-rather-than-do-this.html
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September 14, 2020 12:48pm
- Inandout
  
  Nick, and still they vote for Andrews. They are beyond help.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:22pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Yes, Andrews is a come lately of the corrupt Painters and Dockers Union. These people refused to load ships carrying supplies to Australian troops during WWII. Aussie patriots, NOT!
    
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    September 14, 2020 8:24pm
Suze Wainwright

Surely the current Govt isn’t panicking about losing its messaging to Billy Te Kahika and his Outliers…?

Enough for RNZ to run a serious story about them?

Heh, maybe JLR is actually onto something…
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September 14, 2020 12:52pm
I remember when

Don’t forget to get your copy of the Mike Weston and Otis Frizzell artwork they’ve called “Queen of Science”!!
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September 14, 2020 12:56pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Heh, isn’t the power of apolitical symbolism & imagery just magical…?
  
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  September 14, 2020 1:22pm
Wired-one

Staying at 2.5, still no cases in the South Island. What a bloody joke! Wake the hell up NZ!
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September 14, 2020 1:06pm
- Inandout
  
  Wired, they won’t wake up as Jacinda has a captive audience.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:19pm
RJ

Dear New Zealand. Sorry, but the incompetent useless head girl let Aucklanders leave Auckland too soon so we have to remain on level 2 because she didn’t have the brains to keep Auckland in lockdown but drop them to level 2 so that the rest of New Zealand could remain at level one. Useless head girl should be fired for her incompetence for the past few months
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September 14, 2020 1:09pm
Fletch

If you’re a home schooler – free access to over 200 Oxford University Press books until Sept 30th…

https://global.oup.com/education/support-learning-anywhere/key-resources-online/

Doesn’t seem to be any account needed. You just click on a book and read.
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September 14, 2020 1:14pm
Dougal10

My take on the jet park health worker catching the flue virus is that masks and other ppe are just window dressing .
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September 14, 2020 1:24pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  Depends how isolated this one case is. Given the number of staff and number of often infectious patients that have been through the place for over 5 months, if this is the only one I’d say the PPE has done a very good job.
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:02pm
Fletch

The rest of NZ moving to Level 1 on Monday if no cases outside of Auckland between now and then.

“Auckland’s position will also be reviewed that day, with an eye to increasing gathering limits”.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/nz-other-than-auckland-move-alert-level-1-monday
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September 14, 2020 1:26pm
Benedict Yu

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122756937/election-2020-mori-party-wants-new-zealand-to-be-officially-renamed-aotearoa-within-six-years

Yay 🙁
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September 14, 2020 1:30pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I’m confident that the Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand will culturally appropriate this policy…
  
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  September 14, 2020 1:51pm
Lance

So every time there is fuckup at the border, all of Auckland has to remain at lockdown 2.5 for something like 6 weeks!
Fuck no, the isolation centres need to move to remote locations. And if there isn’t enough berths, then people have to wait overseas until there is a place for them.
This govt is bloody pathetic
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September 14, 2020 1:39pm
- MCos
  
  There’s always going to be problems at the border. Anyone with half a brain can figure that out.
  From what I can figure out there has been two cases in the community of people picking up the bug via the border and one of them spreading it from there. The bloke who worked in the cool store.
  Unfortunately the bug found its way into the Evangelical church in Mt Roskill and those people thought God would sort it out.
  But he didn’t, which they finally figured out.
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:32pm
- Inandout
  
  Lance, it pays to have another house in level one areas from next week.
  
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  September 14, 2020 3:17pm
Maggie Pie

Just back home from lunch with a few of the girls from the Tennis Club.
Thanks goodness I’ve never needed to go to places like Les Mills.
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September 14, 2020 1:42pm
- Loddenthinks
  
  LOL!!
  
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  September 14, 2020 1:51pm
Loddenthinks

Well at least you know where these loons stand, thus limiting the number of votes they’re likely to get from thinking persons. “If they take power” at the 2020 election, the Maori Party will rename New Zealand (to guess what? The old name for the North Island) and require the following:

“The party, campaigning to return to Parliament after being ousted in 2017, has announced a Māori language policy which would rewrite the place names on New Zealand maps, audit the public service on its cultural competence, and require state broadcasters to have basic te reo Māori fluency.”

I wonder if anyone can explain to me what basic fluency means? An oxymoron uttered by one.
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September 14, 2020 1:58pm
- DeepBlue
  
  Basic fluency for broadcasters- Phonetic autocues
  
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  September 14, 2020 2:29pm
fightingtemeraire

From someone who knows the Americold victim had serious underlying health problems as does his brother now in an induced coma.
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September 14, 2020 2:36pm
curry4me

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/epic-massive-latinos-trump-caravan-underway-miami-400-vehicles-video/

Latinos For Trump Caravan.

It began in Miami, Florida, on Monday. There were up to 400 vehicles. I
Wonder if Kamala Harris saw it when she visited?
I guess this won’t make the Sux O’clock ‘News’.
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September 14, 2020 2:39pm
- fernglas
  
  Why should a bunch of swamp-dwelling Cubans driving their cars around to show support for the president of a foreign country be of any interest to us when we have Jacinda to fawn over?
  
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  September 14, 2020 5:06pm
  - curry4me
    
    fernglas: Well, reason #958 is you couldn’t pay me enough to fawn over socialist Cindy.
    
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    September 14, 2020 6:07pm
curry4me

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/bubba-wallace-quits-richard-petty-motorsports-noose-stunt-rocked-race-world/

He Won’t Be Missed.

The ‘noose’ found in Bubba Wallaces garage was a door fitting. Or it’d
been there long before the garage was assigned to him. That didn’t
stop the usual suspects screaming ‘racism’. Then came the
compulsory grovelling. Then the truth came out. One way to boost an
already flagging career, I suppose.
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September 14, 2020 2:40pm
Prince

I notice Ardern seized the opportunity of her 1pm ‘address the nation’ announcement to tell more lies about what this Govt has done for Dunedin.
Putting aside the lies that we now expect from her, are there no checks in NZ, when the PM seizes the airwaves to make an ‘important announcement’, to stop hr from blatant electioneering ? If Parties’ ads are regulated and monitored, shouldn’t this be extended to people misusing their power in this way ? Could the Broadcasters remind Ardern that this is an election period, and she is abusing her office ?
I’ve never seen a more corrupt PM, and a more impotent collection of ‘checks and balances’.
We are an embarrassment to democracy.
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September 14, 2020 3:28pm
- sooty
  
  Yep, Dunedin gave us David Benson Pope, the rev david clark. Thanks, very much!
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:26pm
Fletch

The TV 1 Breakfast show kicked off with a person (sexually ambiguous) singing a Maori language version of September by Earth, Wind, and Fire…. ?

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/breakfast-crew-gets-groove-m-ori-language-week-kicks-off-te-reo-remake-disco-classic

I couldn’t figure out if it was a man of a woman, but they refer to a “he” in the story…
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September 14, 2020 3:30pm
- Inandout
  
  Fletch, ‘they’ or ‘them’ is the woke handle.
  
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  September 14, 2020 4:33pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I think that sheila is a bloke
  
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  September 14, 2020 5:33pm
- Close Hen Counters
  
  My woke bullshit meter blew a gasket on Campbell let alone the he/she
  
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  September 14, 2020 5:58pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Campbell is the biggest cock in NZ – not physically
    
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    September 14, 2020 6:05pm
    - sooty
      
      It’s an it!
      
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      September 14, 2020 9:21pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

We live in a World where Nancy Pelosi’s hairdresser has better video surveillance than Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell
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September 14, 2020 4:07pm
mikenmildagain

President Man-Baby whining that he should be entitled to a third term:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1304971015647301632
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September 14, 2020 4:52pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He got ya Mike. Hook, line, sinker, and most of the arm
  
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  September 14, 2020 6:06pm
  - Harriet
    
    Exactly!
    
    Milky and co have harangued Trump so much in his first term that he is entitled to a third term to make up for the first term.
    
    The Presidents job is not to spend 6 months appeasing or trying to control rioters and shit hole advocates, or spending two years defending himself against false allegations.
    They can’t have it both ways.
    
    And as another example of Milky and co. not having it both ways:
    
    Trump is my favourite person of colour:
    
    Orange Man Great! 😎
    
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    September 14, 2020 6:39pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Even an idiot like Harriet should know that the president is restricted to two terms. Ironically, the 22nd Amendment was proposed by Republicans, long before the transformed themselves into the Trump-cult, as a reaction to Roosevelt’s four terms.
      
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      September 14, 2020 7:12pm
      - Harriet
        
        He was joking Milky, I watched it last night —- and he was implying exactly what I said.
        
        Can’t you take a joke two days running Milky! 😎
        
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        September 14, 2020 8:24pm
      - rangitoto
        
        MAGA 2024, 2028, 2032……
        
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        September 14, 2020 10:33pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

I like all of the pics and vids of the boat parades, and car parades in the US. Think of the money being spent on fuel – and that is good for the US economy.
How long before Greta blows a gasket?
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September 14, 2020 5:32pm
RW Capitalist

Don’t know about the rest of you but:…
I have not heard, even when in level 1, anyone mention when we don’t have to hear the following, in our vocabulary.
Covid19
lock down
level 1….4 and any partials of that
bubble (childish and annoying)
cluster
contact trace
summed up as FREEDOM
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September 14, 2020 5:46pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Next Monday, next Monday.
  Next Monday, Next Monday, Next Monday, Next Monday,
  Next Monday, Next Monday, Next Monday, Next Monday.
  We will make a decision then, depending on what the pink haired one, and Boomfield and the Govt says – and but you remember, it is all about what I SAY.
  Socialist in full control mode
  
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  September 14, 2020 6:12pm
  - Harriet
    
    You can’t catch morbidities at the supermarket! 😎
    
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    September 14, 2020 6:43pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Relying on the media to learn what Trump is really like, is like me asking your ex-wife if you were a good husband
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September 14, 2020 6:15pm
Harriet

Green for Abotearoa

Red for Austratearoa

It’s gonna be one or the other that you call NZ as everyone in NZ hates Aotearoa.

Labour doesn’t like it when you shove one up them, that’s why I’ve chosen two! 😎
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September 14, 2020 6:55pm
- RichardX
  
  Or red for being an imbecile…again
  
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  September 14, 2020 9:41pm
Suze Wainwright

Man, it is so easy to tell when Cindy’s frazzled when questioned – she flashes [del. mod.] teeth and defers the answer to some other entity…

(Bledisloe test answers are a perfect example)
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September 14, 2020 7:15pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  I mean you wouldn’t exactly be relying on her to win at poker for you!
  
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  September 14, 2020 7:24pm
Harriet

“…..American hater Kamala Harris made a surprise visit to Miami on Thursday as Joe Biden hid in his basement bunker.
Latinos for Trump lined the streets in South Florida to make clear they rejected Harris’s far left policies.
Joe Biden has a serious problem among Florida Hispanic voters.
Latinos from South America and Cuba who have suffered under Socialist and Communist regimes have come to the US for a better life and they know Biden and Harris will usher in Socialism which = suffering and death…..”

And that’s why Bernie was out yesterday announcing that “Biden needs to stop talking about Trump and talk instead about populism, policies about high paying jobs, free education and healthcare.”

Just bury Jabblin’ Joe even deeper hey Bernie! 😎
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