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Tony Stuart

New Zealand’s most open and transparent government ever strikes again; from Simeon Brown’s Facebook page (with my emphasis added):

Today I have been declined again the opportunity to visit Waikeria and receive a briefing from the Prison Director about the ongoing violent riot which is taking place at Waikeria Prison.

This decline was from Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis despite s161 of the Corrections Act allowing Members of Parliament to visit a prison at any time. I have requested the legal basis for my decline.

Here are some of the questions that I would be asking if I had the opportunity to visit:

– How many Corrections Officers are currently on site responding to the incident and is that an adequate level of support?
– What other support might be needed from other Govt departments?
– Was a tactical response made immediately as the riot began, and if not, is that standard operating procedure?
– How did the rioters get access from their unit to other parts of the prison to eventually control and destroy the entire prison?
– How did the rioters get access to matches or lighters given these are contraband within a prison? Our prisons are smoke free.
– It appears the rioters have access to cellphones and are freely communicating to those outside the prison. How did this happen given cellphones are also contraband?
– What is the plan to bring this riot to an end given it is now entering a sixth day and the rioters are showing no signs of giving up?
– What is the estimated cost of the damage to the Prison so far?

There are many other questions which need answering – and a full investigation will be required of the causes of the riot and the response to it.

Again my thoughts are with Corrections Officers across the country and those at Waikeria responding to this situation at this difficult time. My thoughts are also with their families.

Brown is handing this very well. He’s asking the questions that many New Zealanders want answers for, and the longer Davis and the PM deny him access to staff at Waikeria, the more it looks as though they have something to hide, and little will to resolve the riot. It also increases the likelihood that Corrections staff will start talking to Brown “off the record”, if in fact that has not already happened.

This is fact becoming a clustershambles of Labour’s own making. Oh dear; how sad; never mind.
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December 3, 2020 10:44am
- Humble Capitalist
  
  We sometimes get discoloured water and we are in a main city. No decent answer from the council when asked, I wonder how long they would let me and my mates go if we set fire to and destroyed council buildings as a protest
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:02am
- Mike
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Hi Tony. Why did you lie the other day about Brown’s statement not being reported by the media?
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:18am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Because at the time I posted, it hadn’t been.
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:38am
    - Mike
      
      Oh, yes it had. I checked at the time and it was on RNZ.
      It always amuses me when Kiwiblog folks trot out such predictable, easily disproved lies.
      
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      January 3, 2021 11:44am
      - Captain Mainwaring
        
        It always amuses me when Kiwiblog trolls can’t admit that sometimes the Left gets it wrong.
        
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        January 3, 2021 12:23pm
      - Mike
        
        Oh, I wouldn’t call Tony a troll, cap’n.
        
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        January 3, 2021 12:41pm
      - Humble Capitalist
        
        Tony obviously didnt realise at the time Mike, in the same way that Comrade Ardern didnt realise that several gropings had occurred at the youth party camp she attended and one of her Ministers was aware of
        
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        January 3, 2021 3:01pm
  - rouppe
    
    Executing the mission statement of diversion again I see
    
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    January 3, 2021 3:50pm
- Paulus
  
  It has been said earlier today on the RNZ that concern is being raised that other prisoners in the other prisons are looking at how to riot – sorry complain, and the authorities and the Prison staff are worried as the prisoners are looking at taking an advantage as they watch what is happening a Waikeria as they have nothing to lose either.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:51pm
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  any coincidence that the rioters gave up when it started raining ?
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:36pm
Captain Mainwaring

For what it’s worth, Mrs.Mainwaring (an ex-midwife) reckons Kane Williamson’s beard looks like a woman’s pubes.
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January 3, 2021 8:01am
- Biscuit
  
  What is the Kiwiblog Female consensus on beards on their menfolk.
  
  My long-term partner says she is willing to forgive 99.9% of my failings, ha, but that she will be out of the door in an instant if I ever gaze at her lovingly in bed with a ‘Fancy some…?’ bearded come-on expression.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:08am
- Wimpston peeders
  
  Captain, if it resembles any respectable well maintained woman there wouldnt be a hair on his face, or was it a plucked chicken look.
  She must be referring to a woman of the 70s-80s as not many folk under 40 have experienced female pubes.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:20am
  - pdm
    
    Or a Greens voter.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:26am
  - chukar
    
    Moderators! not allowed ,hate speech, but discussion of private parts fine?
    
    Must be old fashioned or something
    Yuk
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:32am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Yes you must be if you are outraged by a discussion about pubic hair.
      
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      January 3, 2021 11:56am
      - chukar
        
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        If you think likening NZ’s ( and the world’s) best batsman to a c%#t is ok ,I am sorry for you !
        
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        January 3, 2021 12:33pm
- MCos
  
  So now you know
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:28am
Maggy Wassilieff

Anyone taking bets on when Kelvin emerges?
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2021/01/waikeria-prison-standoff-amnesty-international-joins-calls-for-kelvin-davis-to-get-involved.html
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January 3, 2021 8:04am
- cmm
  
  Amnesty International luvvies involved?? Oes dears that’s going to be a black mark for #CinD4UN!
  
  This is already turning into Ihumatao: prison edition. If they’d acted decisively they wouldn’t be in this mess.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:27am
  - Captain Mainwaring
    
    Is Kelvinator still the Minister or has he been quietly disposed of?
    
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    January 3, 2021 8:37am
    - cmm
      
      How could you tell the difference?
      
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      January 3, 2021 8:45am
      - sooty
        
        Special K is still in the cupboard, but his wifes lingerie is neatly folded!
        
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        January 3, 2021 9:05am
    - pdm
      
      Put down do you mean Capt?
      
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      January 3, 2021 8:46am
  - peterwn
    
    There is no problem in other prisons, AI would be better looking at crappier prisons overseas (eg Kerobokan). The prisoners are not ‘caught’, they can surrender at any time knowing they will be treated humanely (they are not facing the cat as they would have a few centuries ago). So AI should just advise them to give themselves up.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:05am
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I spoke with a naughty man who did six weeks at Waikeria. He was involved in their milking shed. They supply Fonterra. He said that if the drinking water was used to clean the cowshed plant then Fonterra would have graded the milk and would eventually refuse collection of the milk. The cowshed was on a separate water supply and he used to take plastic bottles of drinking water from the cowshed to the cells after milking, as the water available in the cells was so terrible.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:27am
  - cmm
    
    Sorry, I don’t believe “he said” statements from crims any more than I believe the statements from gangster molls about Kane Wayman being such a nice guy.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:10am
    - Tauhei Notts
      
      My acquaintance got three months for failing to file GST returns. Reduced to six weeks for good behaviour. He was placed in the dairy unit as he was a sort of responsible person who, unlike his darker inmates, was least likely to vandalise the intricate milking machinery.
      Responsible? Yeah, his GST accounting was hopeless. Possibly the fact that he told several tax dept inspectors to go and get phucked was what really got him in pokey.
      I have spent a huge sum from my own pocket, not some company or partnership or any other corporate vehicle, on information technology, and I have found my acquaintance more trustworthy and helpful than any IT expert.
      
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      January 3, 2021 9:51pm
- Suze Wainwright
  
  Has Newshub started taking a more objective viewpoint on our current Govt’s performance? FWIW, I have heard one of their journalists acknowledge that Ardern is nothing but a carefully manufactured, closely managed PR construct; I guess it’s just that she’s been the media’s carefully manufactured, closely managed PR construct…
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:28am
  - Bob
    
    she has been ‘groomed’ or a roll in the worldwide infiltration of Marxist thought into democratic countries.
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:08pm
    - Mike
      
      Sounds very sinister…
      
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      January 3, 2021 12:39pm
- Jade Warrior
  
  There is very little media coverage about Waikeria this morning. The Herald has just one article about halfway down its webpage while the Jacinda cheerleaders at Stuff are not even mentioning it at all.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:36am
  - kowtow
    
    The Granny calls it a ‘seige’ , which implies the Goodies outside are the baddies , while stuff can’t cover it else they show their apology for being white to be the hollow virtue signalling it actually was.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:17am
  - Gravelroad
    
    @Jade Warrior – $tuff long since abandoned any pretence of reporting the news.
    A prison riot is not newsworthy to an organisation captured by re-writing history at the behest of an authoritarian but very popular government.
    $tuff is not a traditional, reliable news outlet,
    It is dominated by personal and government opinion for which it gets paid handsomely.
    
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    January 3, 2021 10:12am
    - Humble Capitalist
      
      And the source of information is either the ministry of truth and the ministry of love
      
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      January 3, 2021 11:18am
- bruceavon
  
  Its unbelievable. Massive prison crisis and the minister says he won’t go there until its over?!
  Whose supposed to sort it out then?
  Total lack of leadership.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:39am
  - G152
    
    He is NOT a leader. He’s just an opportunist.
    Remember the crap when Nats ran a private prison and the behaviour in other prisons set Kelvin off.
    Not a dickey bird when he took over mismanagement
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:13pm
- cmm
  
  Maggy, to answer your question: At this stage it is too late for him to front to the media.
  
  He’s useless in front of the media and it has now been blown up into a huge thing. He will embarrass the govt if he becomes the face of this. They need someone more competent and forceful to address this issue. The second last thing Cindy wants is for Kelvin to tackle this.
  
  But the flip side is that this is a going to leave a stain on whoever does front this. Cindy could but it would taint her image. So therefore facing this is the last thing she wants to do herself.
  
  I think all they will do at this stage is double down on “it’s a corrections operational matter: no comment”. Anything else has too much negative consequences.
  
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  January 3, 2021 8:43am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Labour has a number of new rural-based MPs – this would be an excellent opportunity for one of them to augment their reputation early…
    
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    January 3, 2021 8:55am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      What; and contradict the woman who got them elected in the first place? No, I don’t see that happening any time soon…
      
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      January 3, 2021 9:03am
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        Just a thought… 😉
        
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        January 3, 2021 9:17am
    - cmm
      
      I agree with Tony. Upstaging PriNZess and the minister for corrections would be a career limiting move.
      
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      January 3, 2021 9:13am
      - sooty
        
        What could be worse, they are already in a career limiting position. It’s not going to make it worse!
        
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        January 3, 2021 10:54am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Just ask Hamish McIntyre, Michael Laws and Gilbert Myles!
        
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        January 3, 2021 10:58am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Nah, cmm- it’s all sweet mate.
    Nothing sticks to Ms Ardern’s kind government.
    No push back or accountability about Mallard.
    No-one cares about the Ihumatao taxpayer rip off.
    Kelvin? Who he?
    All that matters is NZ is re branded as Aotearoa.
    
    Isn’t there a cricket game on today?
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:04am
  - Liberty
    
    After the Government capitulated to the great unwashed at Ihumatao.
    Our kind and caring government is now in a bind on
    How much compensation to pay the men in their care for having to sleep out
    Side and hurty feelings.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:53am
  - jonnycomelately
    
    The Beehive Bimbo will keep him on the Witless Protection Programme.
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:44am
  - Bob
    
    Not even a ‘nine years of neglect’ comment from Kelvinator!
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:10pm
  - Bob
    
    Perhaps the Teflon is starting to wear a bit thin!
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:12pm
- peterwn
  
  I am wondering about the prisoners’ complaints. On the surface they seem quite valid and it seems reasonable for prisoners to have towels and clothes laundered at reasonable intervals, or be given access to hot water, soap, clothes line etc for this. There would surely be a process for this and there is a means for prisoners to complain lack of such things. If their complaints got nowhere then perhaps one could have a bit of sympathy for them. This is a matter that needs to be followed up. However the prison management probably got fed up with these items being abused etc so was not prepared to provide replacements, laundry service etc. A potential problem in prisons is blocked toilets leading to flooded cells so staff do limit available items to minimise this happening.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:00am
  - Chuck Bird
    
    Peter, have you read what Peter Boshier said in his report in October? There was no mention of have to wait 5 months for clean sheets. There rioters claims and the of their family are BS.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:12am
  - cmm
    
    “On the surface they seem quite valid”
    
    The people in prison are criminals. They will lie and cheat for anything. Nothing they say should be taken at face value.
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:16am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Said yesterday, it is not a hotel
      
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      January 3, 2021 9:27am
      - peterwn
        
        And the Hanoi Hilton was not a hotel.
        
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        January 3, 2021 12:15pm
    - IC5000
      
      > They will lie and cheat for anything. Nothing they say should be taken at face value.
      
      So not dissimilar to politicians then.
      
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      January 3, 2021 10:26am
    - Bob
      
      Sounds to me like self inflicted punishment by the inmates.
      
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      January 3, 2021 12:14pm
    - lemuzz
      
      Quite right. And they should also use both sides of the toilet paper.
      
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      January 3, 2021 4:21pm
  - DeepBlue
    
    Reportedly at least 4 of the rooftop dwellers are 501’s. Seems the Australian deportation holding cells were comparatively not that bad after all.
    
    Waikeria Tophouse was due for demolition so no doubt very run down with dodgy pipes. However, prisons are run on systems, was there no alternative bottled water, was fresh laundry not delivered weekly? Theses are easy things to check.
    
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    January 3, 2021 10:18am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    I understand there are supposed to be “prison visitors” who inspect and report on inmates conditions and possible grievances.
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:22pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Here’s Boshier’s Report.
    
    https://www.ombudsman.parliament.nz/resources/final-report-unannounced-inspection-waikeria-prison-under-crimes-torture-act-1989
    
    Looks like Corrections has been trying to do the best they can until the New Prison is built.
    
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    January 3, 2021 1:11pm
- Clyde
  
  He won’t front because for him its a lose-lose situation. Clearly the “go-early, go-hard” approach doesn’t appeal when the problem is a pile of hardened East Polynesian crims. This is not a “protest” but this is what it will turn out to be. Kelvin Davis will be on strict instructions from on high to not front and stay low. Ditto with Little.
  
  We all know what should have happened when the first crims got onto the roof and started fires. Monsoon buckets and the military to assist Corrections to coral up all those that took part in the action followed by swift transfer to maximum security. What will happen is that it will be found that it was all “our fault” for locking up people who are a blight on society.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:11am
- Ruahine
  
  Another great post by Cactus Kate. She sure puts those useless MSM ‘reporters’ to shame.
  
  https://asianinvasion2019.blogspot.com/
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:24am
- redflagged
  
  Since most of those political types use Twitter, I checked out Kelvin Davis’s one. He has been prolific on it up until October 15, however it hasn’t been touched since.
  
  An obvious sign of a hard working minister.
  
  Must still be on holiday.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:27am
- artemisia
  
  Minister Kelvin Davis is on a hiding to nothing now. Either he sticks to not going until resolved and looks weak and witless, or he turns up and looks even weaker.
  
  Trapped by his own actions, sorry not sorry.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:10am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    As you sow, so shall you reap…
    
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    January 3, 2021 10:20am
- Scooter
  
  Don’t you know it’s the hols, no one in Govt will appear before they have to in Feb. Laziest bunch of fucks Eva.
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:25am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Surely this is all the fault of Serco? Kelvin was telling all and sundry 4 years ago that problems in prisons were all due to the heartless capitalist bastards in the National-led government giving the corrections contracts to their rich prick mates at the big end of town.
  
  Well you’ve had 3+ years to improve the culture, performance and reporting of Corrections Kelvin, and you’ve had about as much success with that as you did with the Tourism portfolio.
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:55am
Jack5

There’ll be a lot of back-tracking by the Woke-controlled print media this month. It’s the busiest time for renewal of annual subscriptions.

It will be “New Zealand” again, as “Aotearoa” and heaps of other Maori words are put back in the online dictionary for a few weeks.

I understand that at Stuff, the Christchurch Press will highlight a series about the history of the newspaper – founded by colonial settlers and for its first hundred and fifty years, a rock of the Right.

This series will attempt to dilute reader anger at Stuff’s grovelling, shameful, ultra-Woke apology for White settlement of New Zealand.
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January 3, 2021 8:16am
- Gravelroad
  
  The Press is $tuffed.
  Gone
  Irrelevant
  Untrustworthy
  Chose the temporary left wing socialists over the subscription paying faithful
  See ya – not.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:16am
- hilaryt
  
  Yep. You have to wonder how dim a lightbulb you have to be to spray this shite around the paying punters and expect them to lie back & take it. Martin van Beynon is onto it, judging by a recent column of his, but sheesh, those, mainly, wokey wimmin take the biscuit. ‘Praying’for a collapse and something saner to rise from the ashes.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:30am
- Unity
  
  I buy the local paper solely for local news and the puzzles page. I don’t believe a word of National news or overseas news but it does give me a vague idea of what’s happening. I have seriously considered not renewing my subscription each year for several years. On top of that I’m totally fed up with the maorification of everything as well as on the TV too. It would be nice to have a totally English channel.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:49am
  - artemisia
    
    Mindfood puzzles are good.
    
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    January 3, 2021 1:02pm
  - Paulus
    
    I only paid my paper bill once the offending period is over – much to their accounts dept displeasure.
    
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    January 3, 2021 5:53pm
  - BAM
    
    You buy a paper because it’s a habit and you’d have nothing to moan about if you didn’t.
    
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    January 3, 2021 7:23pm
- peterwn
  
  Interestingly, the Press was founded as a medium to oppose the construction of the Lyttelton to Christchurch railway which was being promoted by the Superintendent of Canterbury William Sefton Moorhouse (aka Railroad Bill). The Press’s opposition was as effective as Canute’s opposition and the railway soon found its way down to Port Chalmers and Dunedin and beyond. Not sure the Press would be too keen to empathise this aspect of its existence.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:29pm
The Proper Ghandi

Imagine the export dollars this could earn in some of New Zealand’s high-sunshine-receiving regions. Apparently our pinot-growing latitudes are ideal.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2020/12/perineum-sunning-does-it-have-health-benefits-an-expert-s-view.html
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January 3, 2021 8:16am
cmm

The gangster that got killed in Christchurch was, of course, such a nice guy.

According to the Herald he was a “big teddy bear”, “the biggest softy ever”, “was never nasty” and he looked after prostitutes.

No, he was a bloody pimp that stood over and exploited vulnerable women and had current weapons and theft charges. If so, he was probably on bail and should have had bail conditions which he would have been breaching.

Nice teddy bears do not go to gang New Years parties and they certainly don’t do business for them. Nor do they end up before the courts for criminal offending.

Personally I’m happy to see a good start to the New Year. If we can maintain this gang attrition rate then there might be some inroads by the end of the year. Unfortunately they’re increasing faster than this.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/christchurch-homicide-victim-kane-wayman-helped-convict-prostitute-killer-15-years-ago/3FZGOJ755BCNGTADFN4VJUKNQU/
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January 3, 2021 8:22am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Why does the media print such gushing stories?
  “He was such a good boy…!”
  
  There has to be some inverse relationship rule here where you can assume that the true nature of the deceased is exactly the opposite to what is printed about their character.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:01am
lazza

So how is Waikweria going to end… and when?.

More a “Whacko” than a “Waco”? … a David Korish has yet to emerge. More a Hone “Big Dog” Karaitiana?

People could die.

Nothing will bring home more to the sheeple the sheer incompetence and criminal negligence of this useless government, than this cringeworthy embarrassing, & possibly lethal shambles.

Leadership is MIA (on their hols more like it) and a hands-off kinder-gentler handling of case hardened crims is supposed to work wonders .

Tell Her “She’s dreamin”.

Get ready a February vote of no confidence and see how Labour’s Maori caucus reacts!
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January 3, 2021 8:25am
- Jack5
  
  Amnesty International, whose purpose was once defence of the world’s political prisoners has got into the Waikeria prison row.
  
  The Herald, republishing a Radio NZ account, says:
  
  Amnesty International is calling on the Corrections Minister to ensure force isn’t used to end the impasse at Waikeria Prison ….
  
  The Herald republishing of Radio NZ material reflects success of the New Zealand Left towards forging a Soviet-scale media monolith encompassing State radio, State TV, and the subsidised newspaper chains.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:13am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Who is making money out of this prison control?
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:28pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Alarmist Climate Predictions for 2020 that haven’t come true.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/01/02/10-failed-predictions-video/
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January 3, 2021 8:57am
- Suze Wainwright
  
  One of my predictions for 2021 is that the aotearoa chapter of Extinction Rebellion will create an utter nuisance of itself somewhere along Lambton Quay.
  
  This will occur with the open assistance and blessing of at least one Green Party of Aotearoa/New Zealand MP
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:10am
  - Gravelroad
    
    It may also occur with the open assistance and blessing of the craven, inept Wellington City Council.
    Family member was in Wgn city co-incidentally at the 2020 Santa parade on Lambton Quay.
    This was the “family” event which was selfishly hijacked by vegan protesters brandishing crude, sexually explicit signs – never mind the children, vegetables matter more.
    They apparently had a permit from the Council to do this.
    Will be interesting to see the Extinction Rebellion placards – I guess some sexual content will offend,
    And I don’t suppose the Green Party will bother to apply for a permit in any event. Why would they?
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:38am
- RJ
  
  But don’t worry we will be told it was the hottest year on record. Damn so hot we’ve used a fair bit of next winters firewood.
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:27pm
New Zealander

For three years, most of us have known that Kelvin Davis is simply not up to it.

After five days of prisoners taking over and destroying a wing of one of our biggest prisons, he is nowhere to be seen.

There are only 16 prisoners. They aren’t trained. This should have been dealt with and resolved within 24 hours.

But Davis is incapable of thinking on his feet. He simply doesn’t have the intellectual capacity or nerves for politics or running a government department.

Corrections is one of the most important departments in the country. It plays a major role in the safety of New Zealanders and is the last resort for attempting to rehabilitate criminals.

Kelvin Davis does not understand his job. He believes that by simply reducing prison numbers and using ‘Te Ao Maori’ concepts, he is succeeding in dealing with Maori offending, and thus half of New Zealand offenders.

Gang numbers have risen steeply under Labour.

The number of assaults on prison staff have increased under Labour.

Community Corrections staff now have larger numbers of offenders to manage, with continual staff shortages in both prisons and the community.

The Department’s ‘Hokai Rangi’ strategy was created as the Maori strategy but was adopted as the department’s entire strategy. Daily articles on the Corrections intranet website express great joy at the inter-prison kapa haka competitions and tikanga programmes.

Meanwhile, Maori prisoners would rather have basics like toilet paper, a supply of clean towels, sheets and clothes.

This is typical of this government. A virtue signalling facade of care, with a logistical failure undermining anything their ideas may have accomplished.

The media, particularly Maori media, have protected Kelvin Davis for three years. Jacinda Ardern and her party have been doing the same. He’s simply invisible as a Minister and he won’t ever be capable of running anything more complicated than a school.

Davis must go. In just two months we have already seen how compromised this government is to the demands of the far left.
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January 3, 2021 8:59am
- cmm
  
  Imagine how real “Te Ao Maori” concepts would deal with this issue. It would have been sorted in 5 minutes flat.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:20am
  - Wimpston peeders
    
    [Mod – deleted. Take your racism elsewhere, and enjoy a two week holiday]
    
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    January 3, 2021 9:29am
    - Aliog
      
      Well done, Mods – Wimpston constantly lowers the tone here.
      
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      January 3, 2021 4:57pm
- Jimmy White
  
  If the Hokai Rangi strategy was properly adopted there would be no need for toilet paper sheets and towels as they are examples of white imperialism.
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:00am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Labour’s history of incompetent Maori Ministers continues. In contrast other parties have promoted on competence not race and produced good ones.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:56pm
Tony Stuart

Hands up anyone who thinks Kelvin Davis’ decision to remain silent over the riot at Waikeria was made in isolation?

At the very least, Davis, or his most senior advisor, will have contacted the Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff, which is in essence the same as contacting the PM herself, She, of course, is currently holidaying at Tairua, not Tokelau, as some have speculated.

This is rapidly turning into a massive own goal for Labour, and the decision to have both Davis and the PM make no comment is having the unintended consequence of uniting the political left and right. As the riot enters a sixth day, and it becomes more and more evident that most of Waikeria is being rendered unusable, at a huge cost to the taxpayer, the PM will enter the 2021 political year very much on the back foot.
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January 3, 2021 9:10am
- cmm
  
  Naah they will just keep on pushing the “corrections operational matter” line and get away with it.
  
  They select what stuff they want to get involved with depending on whether they can cash in PR.
  
  Funny how Grace Millane was not a police operational matter.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:24am
  - Humble Capitalist
    
    No it was an opportunity for tears in front of international media that one, like Ardern hasnt done in front of the media for all of the other murders in the last 3 years
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:36am
- DeepBlue
  
  Just the Top jail. Not most of Waikeria.
  
  Who is the Duty Minister with the bat phone? Even if Kelvin and Jacinda stay on holiday this person on duty is surely obliged to comment/take control. Also Jacinda said she would take mobile calls. The only conclusion is the Government have decided to keep distant. That is a big mistake.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:28am
- Loddenthinks
  
  The riot did you say Tony? Gosh, $1uff are reporting it as “unrest” and also that the ~~rioters~~ restless ones want the Maori Party to intervene on their behalf – possibly because the leader looks like he would fit right in.
  
  Various Maori troughers are tut-tutting and suggesting it’s all a big misunderstanding and the poor boys are not being looked after to the high standard they’ve come to expect under Labour, but my question is, why is the response so particularly and specifically Maori-focused? Is there something the media aren’t telling us?
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:13pm
- niggly
  
  “… the PM will enter the 2021 political year very much on the back foot”.
  
  She better start practicing ducking and diving to avoid the Waikeria fallout (lack of govt leadership, destroyed prison costing hundreds of millions to replace, prisoner grievances being ignored under Davis’ watch etc) and oh the Mallard Albatross that is still around her neck!
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:07pm
Yvette

Waikeria
Davis said he won’t be commenting on the situation until it is resolved.
A spokesperson for his office said the minister wanted to give Corrections and the emergency services space to do their job safely.
He believed it was a time for highly-trained professionals, negotiators and advanced control and restraint teams – not for politicians. – RNZ
_____

‘They will strike’ – Chief Ombudsman’s warning over less mental health treatment for prisoners in crowded prisons – 28 February, 2018

Prison overcrowding means less work on prisoners’ serious mental health needs who then become “very dangerous” to the public when released, says Chief Ombudsman Peter Boshier.

“They will strike,” he has warned.

Boshier said overcrowding was affecting the ability for the Department of Corrections to provide mental health care, rehabilitation and programmes intended to make prisoners functional citizens.

Our prisons are bursting at the seams and Corrections is seeking Government approval for the 3000-bed mega prison in Waikato. In the meantime, it has expanded double-bunking, reopened closed prisons and is getting prebuilt cells shipped in from China.

The expansion of Waikeria Prison has been spurred by repeatedly inaccurate prison population forecasts from the Ministry of Justice which miscalculated the effect of “tough on crime” policies.

The mega prison-plan goes to Cabinet for approval next month but runs contrary to the Government’s intent to reduce the prison population and Minister of Justice Andrew Little’s intent to focus criminal justice reform on “fixing” inmates.

The current prison population sits around 10,700 and is projected to keep rising as high as 15,000 by 2025.
Boshier said rehabilitation had been affected, along with programmes intended to prepare prisoners for release into the community. [1]

While it may appear a question to be answered is “What is Davis doing now?”, another question is “What has Davis been doing for the past three years?”
And is “reducing prisoner numbers, while totals are projected to keep rising” not an oxymoron, or at least just a little moronic?

[1] https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/they-will-strike-chief-ombudsmans-warning-over-less-mental-health-treatment-for-prisoners-in-crowded-prisons/7BB5BUHGKERXRWG2O4UGUHLQQQ/
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January 3, 2021 9:11am
- Nickc2
  
  Wouldn’t it also have been nice had Cindy not comment until the Muslim shootings and Covid-19 matters were resolved?
  Nah, her minders are cherry-picking situations whereby lipstick can be applied to pigs.
  
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  January 3, 2021 9:55am
- Jack5
  
  Are our prisons bursting at the seams?
  
  Some are saying that the Justice System has quietly been reducing the national prison roll. If that’s true, nationally the pressure must be going off prisons.
  
  What is the true position? Is Corrections being honest with the country?
  
  Regardless, a falling roll wouldn’t be enough for the near-nihilists who would abolish all prisons.
  
  The idea of pre-built cells – and all moveable cells – is sensible.
  
  Prejudice against them resembles that against movable school rooms a decade or two ago, when shifting population in cities meant some schools were overcrowded and while others were part-empty.
  
  Movable school rooms, or school blocks, to match supply and demand was (and is) a logical move, but met an illogical social prejudice. Moveable buildngs, whether houses or school rooms, have illogically ranked lower socially.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:02am
- Nickc2
  
  Perhaps those prisoners in Waikeria need reminding that they got what they voted for?
  Will Little and Co. indicate any remorse for giving prisoners the right to vote? Nah, didn’t think so.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:50am
Jack5

In a Telegraph obituary of Father Reginald Foster, the Vatican’s Latin specialist and probably the leading champion of the ancient language, are these Latin coinings of his:

Universalis destructionis armamenta (weapons of mass destruction), pastillum botello fartum (a hotdog) and sui ipsius nudatio (striptease).
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January 3, 2021 9:47am
- fightingtemeraire
  
  I read it. He was certainly a character.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:41am
Maggie Pie

Word for the day…..

ANATIDAEPHOBIA.

Which reminds me ….does anyone know where Trev went for his holidays?

😀
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January 3, 2021 10:32am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Well done
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:46am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  There’s 13 mallards preening themselves on the front lawn at the moment.
  
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  January 3, 2021 10:55am
  - sooty
    
    Where ever the duck went, one thing you can bet your arse on, it’s free and the taxpayer is paying for it!
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:04am
  - Paulus Gnome
    
    The one we are looking can be identified as the one applying Savlon to a hurty butthole . . .
    
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    January 3, 2021 11:25am
  - Nickc2
    
    Are any of them talking about rapists?
    
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    January 3, 2021 1:38pm
- JibberJabber
  
  https://twitter.com/CraigSDouglas1/status/1345086206015541250
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:28am
kevn

@Tony… Yes, good on Brown for asking the questions that he will already know the answer to.
The chance of fudging a response becomes trickier for (not) special K.
This is a great opportunity for our SAS to have a real practice session.
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January 3, 2021 10:50am
Maggie Pie

1ZB is currently taking calls from anyone that feels the need to speak with a…. ‘Grief Counselor’

Fill ya’ boots I say!!
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January 3, 2021 10:57am
rangitoto

Any bets on how long it will be before the convid 19 strain spreading in the UK gets into the community here?
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January 3, 2021 11:02am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  I hear on the semi-pro grapevine that when it does get here there will be a level 3.5 lockdown.
  
  I reckon it will get here in 7-10 days based on air traffic between UK and NZ and incubation period.
  
  That prediction is of course worth what you paid for it.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:02pm
  - fernglas
    
    Why, when there are no infections of the current strain in the community, should the new one suddenly materialise? Last time I saw, 70% greater than fuck all is still fuck all.
    
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    January 3, 2021 1:20pm
    - Engelbert Humperdink
      
      If you do not test for something you will not find it.
      
      If you do more tests for something you will find it.
      
      If you set the bar lower for a positive test you will get more positive test results.
      
      If you want to lock down the populace you encourage more positive test results to boost the fear factor and increase compliance, plus, distract from multiple other failures.
      
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      January 3, 2021 3:51pm
  - EssenX
    
    I understand it’s already here in MIQ.
    
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    January 3, 2021 3:15pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  About 3 weeks, so Jaspinda can lock down everything for the Auckland Anniversary and Waitangi holidays. Do as I say, not as I do
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:03pm
- niggly
  
  The Do Nothing Labour Govt isn’t going hard and fast (again).
  
  They have announced it will be mandatory for travellers from the United Kingdom or the United States have pre-flight covid tests …. but not until January 15.
  
  By then, will that be too late?
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/433968/covid-19-uk-and-us-travellers-to-need-pre-departure-tests-before-departing-to-nz
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:52pm
  - Paulus
    
    Copying what National have been saying for a couple of months now but guess what it is little baby Hipkins’s decision which he argued strongly against. -Hypocrite again
    
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    January 3, 2021 6:00pm
- RJ
  
  In time for the vaccines so they can use it to push people to get it
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:25pm
Tasman Terror

The irony of Labour’s popularity is it makes the lot of most people worse, and generally those that voted for it;
they have made my life great, but I voted National: In the past year my rental properties went up 20 per cent-all tax free.
Every property had it’s rent increased.
Am I alone?
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January 3, 2021 11:16am
Chuck Bird

The latest developments. The roof might collapse which might mean some will come out in body bags.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/waikeria-prison-uprising-fears-roof-may-collapse-tensions-in-group-rise-rioters-throw-debris-at-police/2FOBPRFPFGM2TRRRSPZW5HUBY4/
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January 3, 2021 11:24am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  Please let there be [Deleted – Mod]
  
  Rhetorical guys . . .
  
  [Mod – wishing anyone dead, even prison inmates, is unacceptable]
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:28am
- Wimpston peeders
  
  Ever heard of karma?
  
  The police should lay out a few body bags to put the shits up the rioters
  
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  January 3, 2021 11:32am
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  “Evolution in action.”
  
  Gravity, it’s still a thing, even if you skipped colonialist school.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:03pm
  - sooty
    
    Is the fire still going underneath them!
    
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    January 3, 2021 12:37pm
JibberJabber

Sage Covid advice from the NHS,
https://twitter.com/JustMissEmma/status/1345482972196179969

Caution language…..?
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January 3, 2021 11:25am
- RJ
  
  Lol
  
  People need to listen so that all the nurses and doctors can keep making tik toks instead of having to work
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:55pm
oldfella

For something a bit different, here’s an Aussie sheila taking a hard look at something that really jumped out at me when I watched ‘The Undoing’ the other day.
Basically, that us blokes can get away with having interesting faces, filled with life and character, while youz birds are still under enormous pressure to seem young and beautiful.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/it-s-time-to-let-our-nic-act-her-age-20201223-p56psy.html
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January 3, 2021 12:28pm
- hilaryt
  
  …whole show is ‘our Nic’ rotating various glam coats…dull.
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:42pm
- ISeeRed
  
  More self-indulgent female victimhood. Women are more the ones who shame other women for their makeup choices and fashion sense, not “blokes”.
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:24pm
Jack5

The pioneer of single-malt scotch has died at the age of 89.

Sandy Grant Gordon, great-grandson of the founder of the founder of the Glenfiddich distillery, began marketing single malt whisky abroad when Scotland was exporting blended scotch. Single malts were drunk virtually only in Scotland.

The Wall Street Journal in its obituary quotes an early Glenfiddich advertisement as the world market for single malts was opening:

“Sit when you drink Glenfiddich, you may never stand for a blended Scotch again.”

In 2019, Glenfiddich was the world’s largest selling single-malt scotch.

Sandy Grant Gordon was head of Scotland’s richest family. His great love was not whisky, but bird watching. Sandy Grant Gordon’s father was chairman of the company, and his mother was a medical doctor.

A brief industry obituary:

https://www.whisky.com/information/news/newsdetail/sandy-grant-gordon-dies-at-the-age-of-89.html
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January 3, 2021 12:31pm
Maggie Pie

I’ve decided to review my ‘social media presence’ this year, with a view to cutting it back somewhat. For a start, Instagram is no longer the friendly place it used to be. There is sooo much nastiness displayed lately, that I’m considering quitting it altogether.
When I first began posting there, it was mainly pics of our holiday destinations, the food & wines we were enjoying at various restaurants, plus any new designer gear i was wearing. Things that a lot of people found interesting and which used to get me hundreds of likes and really fab comments.

But now, take last night for instance. I posted a pic of us eating at the fab Thai restaurant in Whangaparoa. I just logged in to to see the responses…..only 2 ‘likes’, and a comment from some anonymous dickhead that sez, “Hope you and your boyfriend choke ya stupid bitch”

I’m outta there!
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January 3, 2021 12:40pm
- Mike
  
  Perhaps your posts just became too boring. Or maybe you are a bit too old for Instagram now you are in your 20s.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:43pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You always sound sooo inspiring Mike!
    I bet you keep your partner is in a constant state of orgasm.
    
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    January 3, 2021 2:47pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Quite frankly, your comments are of some amusement to the older crowd here on Kiwiblog, but those pearls of wisdom from your ‘partner’ are unlikely to set Instagram on fire.
      
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      January 3, 2021 8:03pm
  - RJ
    
    Na Maggie is never boring, you on the other hand are.
    
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    January 3, 2021 5:50pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  My advice for livimg is to find good people and stay away from idiots. That rules out social media which is chock full of idiots. Haven’t touched my FB page for a couple of years now and avoided all the alternatives.
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:50pm
- RJ
  
  Aww, sounds like the kb jealous trolls found you. You’re are a bit old for one of them, so won’t be him
  
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  January 3, 2021 12:51pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, the basement dwellers have taken over much of social media. Unemployment can be a bastard.
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:29pm
- MFD
  
  Sorry about that nasty comment. I strongly suspect it was my border collie, Fleur. She can be such a bitch at times and I am convinced that a good proportion of the ticks here in the comments section are hers. I should have her put down but she has such a good nose for BS and is smarter than some of the folks here. LOL.
  I shall suspend her internet priveliges forthwith.
  
  If you treat a dog like a person they behave like one.
  
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  January 3, 2021 2:51pm
  - MFD
    
    Fleur here, logging on as MFD. Silly bastard thinks I don’t know the new wifi password…and he doesn’t know how to spell privileges. Buggered if I am going to spell check for him now.
    
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    January 3, 2021 5:03pm
  - RJ
    
    Been there, done that. The amount of times I walk out of my room, come back in and my Cocker Spaniel has come in and is laying by my iPad. Seriously I’ve told him several times,you can’t chase the cats on YouTube. But he still comes in and tries. And don’t ever try to use Skype or FaceTime, he thinks who ever is on the other end just wants to talk to him.
    
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    January 3, 2021 7:08pm
RJ

Thank you fact checkers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjZR6Htma18&feature=emb_logo
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January 3, 2021 12:49pm
Chuck Bird

The latest. This still is not a good look for Special K.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/waikeria-prison-rioters-have-surrendered-maori-party-says/SMSJNJXMH2MOQYU5SRQUUO5KOY/
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January 3, 2021 1:16pm
- RJ
  
  Oh I don’t know looks like his usual work, sit in the background doing nothing, another successful labour minister.
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:18pm
- Clyde
  
  The crowing by the face-scribbles will start forthwith. Davis – by dint of his refusal to get involved as the riot was “operational” – is now further revealed as a total dork. Now I, like the rest of the country, wonder just who is going to pay for the millions of dollars of damage done by these lovely cuddly teddy bears who really don’t deserve to have been sent to this horrible white man’s prison.
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:31pm
- Inandout
  
  Chuck, as the message says in the article..’please support New Zealand journalism’. When they are begging it is not aotearoa.
  
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  January 3, 2021 1:35pm
- Maggie Pie
  
  Maori Party leader Rawiri Waititi sez, “There men are not animals. If you treat a person like a dog, they will act like one”
  
  Riddle me this then…..
  
  https://youtu.be/HuLWW24qvDc
  
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  January 3, 2021 2:04pm
  - RJ
    
    But I like my dog, so I won’t treat it like a criminal gang member.
    
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    January 3, 2021 5:49pm
Alan Wilkinson

A nice perspective:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/31/donald-trump-has-been-the-most-illuminating-president-in-decades/
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January 3, 2021 1:19pm
SB2

An example of the unhinged rants that have the ear of Trump .

Introducing” Ms Qanon ,Lin wood ,

Trumpist Lawyer Lin Wood Goes on Unhinged Rant Suggesting Justice John Roberts Is a Murderous Pedophile

QANON GONE WILD
Wood has recently been in touch with President Trump, who has encouraged his election-stealing lawsuits and behavior.

Pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood ramped up the crazy on Wednesday night by suggesting Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts was somehow involved in Justice Antonin Scalia’s death and part of a child-sex cult.

Wood, alongside on-again-off-again Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell, has been at the forefront of President Donald Trump’s hopeless attempt to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s decisive victory in the Nov. 3 election. Besides filing a slew of conspiratorial lawsuits alleging election fraud that have been laughed out of court, Wood has urged Georgian Republicans not to vote in next week’s pivotal Senate runoffs because of his belief that the election will be “rigged” and has filed an emergency petition with the Supreme Court to halt the Jan. 5 election….”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumpist-lawyer-lin-wood-casually-suggests-chief-justice-john-roberts-is-a-murderous-pedophile
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January 3, 2021 1:43pm
- RJ
  
  And the good news is since Lin is considering filling a formal motion for recusal of roberts and Breyer you will soon get to see the evidence he has. Enjoy because Lin knows what he is doing, always does, that is why he is so good at his job.
  
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  January 3, 2021 7:19pm
Engelbert Humperdink

Well, unexpectedly…

From the Heraldian Headline:

Covid 19 coronavirus: 19 new cases in managed isolation, UK virus strain detected.

Who’d have thunk it.
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January 3, 2021 2:03pm
Nickc2

Wow, sign this guy up for the All Blacks before the Aussies insist he’s an Aboriginal.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/01/skills.html
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January 3, 2021 2:04pm
DeepBlue

‘Sixteen prisoners were escorted out at midday by Rawiri Waititi, co-leader of the Māori Party.’ Stuff

An own goal by Labour, successfully making the Maori Party look kinder and more in touch with their constituency.

Where were the Maori Caucus? Oh that’s right Kelvin leads them too.
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January 3, 2021 2:08pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Leads them out on the way to Mt Eden? Hope so.
  
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  January 3, 2021 3:25pm
Maggie Pie

Honestly, what would possess anybody to get aboard some poor guys stranded boat and vandalize it?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300194667/kuxury-boat-looted-and-ransacked-while-it-sat-stranded-on-rocks-for-days

As my partner said when he drew this to my attention, “It just goes to show the mentality and contempt Labor losers have for others these days”.
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January 3, 2021 2:43pm
- kowtow
  
  Almost amounts to piracy.
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:40pm
  - sooty
    
    Why would you leave something not very far from shore ungarded?
    Would he leave the front door of his house open?
    Serves him right!
    
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    January 3, 2021 5:12pm
    - info@cruzpro.com
      
      Because it was not really a place that was tenable?
      
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      January 3, 2021 6:45pm
  - info@cruzpro.com
    
    I believe that you are right. This was an act of piracy.
    
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    January 3, 2021 6:47pm
- Martin Williams
  
  Probably did it himself as part of some scam, Maggie. Never trust the 1%.
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:04pm
- RJ
  
  Interesting link, stuff spell luxury with a “k”
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:43pm
dave_c_

Looks like the overarching plan, and precision clock, announces the UK Covid variant arriving at the NZ border – on time, and NZ Government introduces tougher testing rules for travellers. Quelle surpris –
Surely even the most indolent Kiwi must be starting to join the dots ?
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January 3, 2021 2:47pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Control, because you did not do as I said – even thought fast and early was after 53 days
  
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  January 3, 2021 3:43pm
Maggie Pie

They will be known and immortalized as……..

‘THE WAIKERIA 16’

https://twitter.com/Maori_Party/status/1345523242434404353
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January 3, 2021 3:42pm
- greybeard
  
  Some deluded person on Twitter called “Dr. Bex” says that “human rights are human rights, not rewards”.
  What about the human rights of the victims of these rioters ? You know, the victims: the dead, the raped, the defiled, the robbed, the abused and assaulted, the bullied and intimidated and harrassed.
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:50pm
KH

Much as I hate to say it, Kelvin Davis gets it right on this one. See.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/123860610/live-corrections-minister-kelvin-davis-fronts-media-after-prisoners-surrender-at-waikeria-prison
These are a bunch of criminals who have spent their lives destroying the lives of others. Time and time again they have been given opportunity to do differently but each time decided to be shitheads.
They don’t like prison, but it”s been their decision to be there.
The minister should not travel to such an event. He should simply state his support for the professionals, which Davis has done.
That creep from the Maori Party should not have shown up there. And the Iwi should not have been making those sleazy self serving press releases either.
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January 3, 2021 3:50pm
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  Respectfully, the Kelvinator is full of it. This should have been nipped in the bud on Day One. All the delay means is (a) crims come out as heroes to the feral leftist idiotic menagerie – but I repeat myself; and (b) the taxpayer has to suck up paying a far far higher damage repair invoice. This is akin to a doctor saying “I’ll let this disease fester for a while longer and not tell anyone how to treat it until they figure it out for themselves”. Kelvin should go take a flying leap at a rolling ring donut for being a chicken sheet cowardly tax-wastrel.
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:09pm
- kowtow
  
  Nah , his PR blurt was a bundle of contradictions , even the media highlighted “prisoner disorder event” , bwahaha,
  
  He then ” especially want to thank tangata whenua and local kaumatua who played an important role in negotiations with the group and who helped to end this situation peacefully.” ( not their job)
  
  But then goes on to slag orf one of them :
  
  “These men wanted political attention, and unfortunately those who waded into the issue in order to generate headlines only helped to embolden them, extend the duration of the event, and increase the risk to safety.”
  
  That’s clearly a poke at the Maori MP who wore a hat in the house.
  
  And last but not least he tells us they are releasing crims into society , how safe are we ?
  
  “We have also safely reduced the prison population by 20 per cent since it peaked in March 2018.”
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:38pm
rouppe

The Herald says that Sweden’s strategy has come unstuck.

Sweden already has one of the highest death rates in Europe. Of its 10 million people, around 8300 had died from Covid-19 by late December.

That’s 0.083%

That’s being called “terribe”?
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January 3, 2021 4:03pm
- Engelbert Humperdink
  
  This is a link to a very helpful review of the Swedish “disaster” /sarc
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uQZVe0SfZ0
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:07pm
kevn

Rawiri Waititi… such a caring kind person. The ’16’ can move in with him.
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January 3, 2021 4:04pm
Engelbert Humperdink

Here’s one just for the maskers

I hope the link works

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c104c684b135fd2543d6f2798a1f5a2b08ee7bdab058b045edaac82ab967d314.gif

(a vaper wearing a mask)
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January 3, 2021 4:12pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh goodness..
Our rioters are Mongols and Comancheros…

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/01/waikeria-prison-majority-of-rioters-are-mongols-and-comancheros-gang-members-corrections-
minister-kelvin-davis.html

Talk about inappropriate name appropriation.
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January 3, 2021 4:16pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggy, they listened to you, and it has been disappeared.
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:29pm
- niggly
  
  And check out the weasel words coming from Kelvin Davis now – after days of silence from him (the least he could have done is re-assure the public he has the matter at hand) he now opens up and also claims those that waded in were interfering.
  
  But hang on a moment, whether one agrees with Maori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi or not, the fact is he has done Davis’ job for him by ending the protest riot.
  
  Davis could have done this himself, if he could have been bothered to front in his official capacity (rather than hide behind Corrections staff, whom were doing his job by communicating with the media)!
  
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  January 3, 2021 4:49pm
- sooty
  
  No wonder he was hiding in the cupboard. He was shitting himself!
  It is strange now that they are back behind bars, that he comes out of hidding to pat himself on the back, by giving interviews saying how relieved he is to be back in the sunshine again!
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:07pm
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Calling themselves “Mongols.”
  That is definitely cultural appropriation!
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:25pm
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Yep,
    I’m trying to convince hubby to put in a complaint to the BSA.
    
    Honestly, what are folks around Kaiti (Mongrel Mob territory) going to think when they discover hubby is part Mongol?
    
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    January 3, 2021 6:23pm
kowtow

The term ” ‘UK ‘ variant of Covid 19 ” is acceptable for the Media to use , but calling it a Chinese virus is racist ?

Bit unfair as UK is one of the few countries that does genetic testing bigly ( apparently) and then gets pinged for letting the world know its results .
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January 3, 2021 4:47pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just got back from fishing about 15 minutes ago. He took a squizzie at what I’ve posted today 😀
When he cliked on the that dudes photo from the Maori Party, he reckoned it’s is a wee bit ‘gay looking’. LOL!!

https://twitter.com/Maori_Party/status/1345523242434404353
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January 3, 2021 5:16pm
- RJ
  
  Is that the one that the prisoners said they would come off the roof if he would just drop the soap?
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:38pm
KH

Rawiri Waititi tell his version. Factcheck required on that.
We heard his version. But what was the reality.
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January 3, 2021 5:27pm
- RJ
  
  Problem with fact checks, they rarely tell the facts, especially the tik tok funded Facebook ones
  
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  January 3, 2021 5:51pm
Tasman Terror

While I don’t condone breaking the law being locked up 23 hours a day in the same cell is torture; having to ask for toilet paper should be unnecessary, as is asking for clean clothes.Clean water is a basic human right as the rich people found out in Havelock North.

I had to try and contact a client at Waikeria and it took 2 days to get a call through.
That is a breach of human rights as well.Prisoners are meant to have reasonable access to legal counsel.

I note none of this shit happened under National.

Labour’s ongoing problem is weak Ministers controlled by the Public Service.

Seriously, if you had a job to be allocated bagging chicken manure would you offer it to Kelvin Davis? No, why, because it would become a health and safety issue,
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January 3, 2021 5:38pm
- V
  
  If any member of the media is reading this (or happens to have grown a pair over the holidays) they should request an itemized list of goods (for the last year) from Foodstuffs/Progressive that are sent to the prisons under contract.
  
  Make the lists public.
  
  These prisoner claims are unsubstantiated by bone lazy media that for some reason likes to cuddle up to our prisoner classes. I guess they’re not the victims of these criminals after all.
  
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  January 3, 2021 6:31pm
- RJ
  
  Hmmm, would I give kelvin a job of packing shit to sell. Well I think he is packing shit often hoping to avoid the media and any responsibility so he would have experience. But he’d likely screw that up
  
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  January 3, 2021 6:33pm
- info@cruzpro.com
  
  These people are in prison for a reason! They are not nice people. It takes a lot to be put into prison. Unless you are really terrible you get home detention. Despite best efforts, most of these people go on to re-offend after they get released.
  
  Prison offers many of these offenders a chance to re-abilitate, learn a profession, but few bother. It is sad, but that is what it is. I have a hard time shedding tears for those in prison. They cost us a lot of taxpayers dollars.
  
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  January 3, 2021 7:28pm
kevn

@TT… I gather most clothing etc gets used to block toilets and cause flooding. Ration the clothing to sort it. The worst of the worst at play here. Normal isn’t even close.
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January 3, 2021 6:08pm
- marcw
  
  The police cells are regularly flooded by toilet rolls stuffed down them – the temporary residents do this to show their displeasure at being apprehended. It’s their mentality.
  
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  January 3, 2021 6:39pm
  - tf78
    
    marcw – that’s a great trick that tenants use too.
    
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    January 3, 2021 7:04pm
Gravelroad

That Dr Souxzie of the pink hair is a bit of a dag, eh?
Here she was on the 6pm news handwringing about how it might be unfair to expect families to have to pay for a new variant covid test before travelling back to little old, usually backward, New Zild.
Well boo hoo, Souxzie.
If they can afford to fly back here from the UK or US, they can afford to pay for the test.
Her credibility is rapidly declining to zero.
Maybe she is expecting her kind mate Jacinda to dole out some more taxpayer money to pay for testing so as to look good re “equity issues”.
No.
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January 3, 2021 6:40pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

Good to see Cindy is keeping exactly to the script, like the good little globalist she is.

Lockdowns ahoy!

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300197445/coronavirus-new-uk-covid19-variant-reaches-nz-as-government-introduces-tougher-testing-rules-for-travellers
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January 3, 2021 6:59pm
tf78

Stupid is as stupid looks.
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January 3, 2021 7:03pm
Maggie Pie

My partner just got back from having a few beers at the Surf Club. He was saying rumors are circulating that the whole #WaikeriaUprising could have been a staged event. The old wing was due to be demolished anyway. Construction of the new prison is well underway.

The question is….Are we being played ???
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January 3, 2021 7:31pm
- Couchpotatoe
  
  Only for those who are feebleminded and are prone to conspiracy theories.
  
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  January 4, 2021 11:45am
V

I can’t wait for St Jacinda to do a press conference on this prison escapade. I think under the load of any half decent questioning the strained facial expressions will have me fearing for the structural integrity of Wellingtons sewerage system to cope.
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January 3, 2021 9:12pm
sharont

Interesting to learn that Discovery Inc own MediaWorks that owns TV3, The Project and the AM Show. The Vanguard Group own 10.11% shares in Discovery Inc and BlackRock Fund Advisors own 5.37% of Discovery Inc. In turn The Vanguard Group own 7.73% shares in Pfizer and BlackRock Fund owns 4.68% shares in Pfizer. Shows how independent the media is in pushing the Pfizer vax.
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