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February 14, 2021 7:16pm by David Farrar

Auckland lockdowns at midnight

The PM has announced Auckland will move to Level 3 at 1159 pm tonight, and the rest of New Zealand will move to Level 2.

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Fletch

SHUT THE DAMN BORDER. To everyone. This quarantine obviously isn’t working.
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February 14, 2021 7:18pm
- Philview
  
  I have been trying for months to get my child home from OE. Finally have an MIQ bed lined up so don’t want the border shut. Moving MIQ away from central Auckland would make a lot more sense.
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:57pm
- Tall Man
  
  Grow a pair and face the world FFS.
  
  600 infections of the “killer disease” since September in NZ. No deaths, no hospitalisations yet we’re all to fear this “flu”.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:03pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Sneezing into a tissue is beyond the cute kids of 2021, whole economies need to close down after they stub their big toes on rough curbs. Cindy is loving it.
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:48pm
  - Gazza the Giant
    
    Arr, perhaps you should wake up, because on Friday , NZ suffered Arderns 26th Covid death , my pick is they hav e been lying , and that death was the start of this is out of control since Northland , and they are once again tryjng to weasel out of failure , so for the record , NZ is now at 26 Covid deaths
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:49pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  I am so over all this covid bullshit.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:06pm
  - MCos
    
    Trouble is it isn’t over us.
    Furthermore
    It sounds like you have the luxury of downplaying the effects of covid-19.
    Plenty of people haven’t in countries far from here.
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:48pm
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      You have been drinking the cool aid and watching to much of the propaganda.
      
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      February 15, 2021 8:52am
- Happy1
  
  Fletch wants the border completely closed unrealistic we are not yo yo ing we have had six months of normality and those times will return we just need to stamp it out again if Judith wants a snap election I’m sure Jacinta would oblige analysts of lockdown effectiveness does not apply here as we aim for elimination can’t get the full stop to work sorry about that
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:19pm
- lastmanstanding
  
  The Chairman of The Central Planning Committee was pleased. Comrade Ardern was sticking to the script. She was keeping the peasants in a state of panic and anxiety.
  So much better to rule them when you scare them into believing they will die unless they follow your orders.
  
  The Transition Plan for the new South Eastern Province was progressing faster than anticipated. The President master stroke with the Wuhan Laboratory has exceeded all expectations.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:43pm
- jonnycomelately
  
  What quarantine? Even Mexican unelected members of parliament can go home to pick up their [deleted] boyfriend on the taxpayer ticket?
  
  [Warning, further use of such unacceptable language here will earn you a ban. Mod.]
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:25pm
  - jonnycomelately
    
    Surprised. Did you pick up part of the $55m?
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:11pm
- Rich Prick
  
  My father who has dementia is in a panic, his phone went mental at about 7.00pm apparently. He is distressed but luckily neighbours called in to reassure him everything it OK. When the fuck did we give Cindy permission to fuck with our phones? Fuck off Cindy, your “kindness” is bad for some folk.
  
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  February 14, 2021 10:38pm
  - fredonas
    
    You can turn off the alerts in Notification settings. https://getready.govt.nz/prepared/stay-informed/emergency-mobile-alert/capable-phones/#e1627
    
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    February 15, 2021 1:01am
    - alloytoo
      
      I’m in two minds here, I would like to be advised of genuine emergencies, this wasn’t one.
      
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      February 15, 2021 8:52am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      The last time I tried that feature had been blocked and you could not turn off the emergency alerts.
      
      I have also complained to the get ready Muppets as well, same result tough luck it is government mandated.
      
      Wankers all of them.
      
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      February 15, 2021 9:00am
    - Mr_Blobby
      
      No just tried again.
      
      You are not able to Turm it off.
      
      Sent the clowns some more negative feedback.
      
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      February 15, 2021 9:47am
    - curry4me
      
      fredonas: Thanks for this, it’s very useful! Doing it now.
      
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      February 15, 2021 3:17pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Thanks for that advice, I have done just that. I’m really grateful.
      
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      February 18, 2021 12:04am
  - emmess
    
    How many car accidents did that stupid panic alarm cause?
    
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    February 15, 2021 7:58am
  - curry4me
    
    Rich Prick: I hope your dad is OK now. I got one of those ’emergency texts’. I wondered what was wrong with the phone. I used to get them in Korea when a hotter than average day was epected, or there was an air raid drill.
    
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    February 15, 2021 3:16pm
- Rich Prick
  
  I blame the Wiggles. I bet they had over the limit cigarettes and viruses.
  
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  February 14, 2021 10:41pm
- Bloody Dago
  
  Why are politicians in charge of a health pandemic?? The people more concerned with status money and popularity votes! In order to sustain their lifestyles. Shouldn’t the government be removed in times like this in regards to public health and decision making. Hotel quarantine shouldn’t be happening and certainly not under the control of non health professionals! The medical profession manage these patients through their journey intubated nebulisers in contact with hundreds of staff no spread or at least minimal… politicians time to step aside let the professionals take over!
  
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  February 15, 2021 7:57am
- all true
  
  Someone should shut down your brain all together.
  
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  February 15, 2021 8:27am
tf78

Lockdown because, because, because Chairman Dan done it. Good by NZ hello C…a. Thanks Covinda.
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February 14, 2021 7:20pm
- KiWombat
  
  ?President Covinda?
  Just received a “Presidential Alert”
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:27pm
  - Dairy Flat
    
    Yeah, me too. You also have an ex-US phone then. First time I got the Presidential Alert I thought “the cheeky b…. !”,then realised why.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:54pm
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    Me to more bullshit.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:43pm
Grant

These lockdowns sure work well……….not
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February 14, 2021 7:21pm
- krazykiwi
  
  I’ll post some research on that topic tomorrow
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:49pm
alex Masterley

On the plus side I dont have to take my son to rowing first thing tomorrow.
Other than that the princess and her team had but one job. and they didnt do it.
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February 14, 2021 7:23pm
- artemisia
  
  Yep, it was a covid election. We were suckered.
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:52pm
  - hullkiwi
    
    Speak for yourself.
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:34pm
- Tall Man
  
  But she’s kind though …….
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:56pm
  - sooty
    
    Kind of bloody useless though!
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:12pm
    - Mike22240
      
      Look, you don’t understand. The virus is tricky. That’s why!!!!
      
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      February 14, 2021 9:35pm
- GazzaW
  
  As an ex rowing parent enjoy that bonus hour in bed! It’s all worth it though alex as rowing is a life changer for teenagers in terms of time management and team skills. Enjoy Maadi Cup.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:04pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Gazza, he’s a wee way from being on a boat at the Maadi, but we live in hope.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:55pm
    - GazzaW
      
      He’ll be there before you know it. I thoroughly enjoyed my involvement with the sport.
      
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      February 14, 2021 9:59pm
- Cactus Kate
  
  Is there an award for comment of the month?
  
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  February 15, 2021 3:53am
Wired-one

Luck, not good management.
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February 14, 2021 7:24pm
hullkiwi

Yes, watching the Jax and St Ashley Pinocchio Show now.

Spot the hypocrisy with the 3 cases at Anniversary Weekend.

Doing a count of how many times Ash & Jax lie. The count is already double digit.
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February 14, 2021 7:25pm
- Tall Man
  
  I find that hard to believe ……… Not.
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:56pm
- PaulL
  
  This is clearly different to Anniversary. Those cases had a known source, and were pretty well ring fenced in terms of contacts. This one has no known source (i.e. we don’t know they didn’t catch it from someone else) and a bazillion contacts. I don’t always agree with that they’re doing, but it’s a false comparison to say it’s like those cases.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:13pm
- Mr_Blobby
  
  I didn’t see the punch and Judy show.
  
  Did she apologize profusely for failing us yet again.
  
  Admit that we can’t keep the chinese flu out and that sooner or later we are going to have to learn to live with it.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:47pm
- Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes
  
  was it just me, or did Cindy readout loud one of her directions in her speech when she said “say it with sincerity”? was she supposed to read that out or was that a direction to nod the head, tilt the head and purse lips? I guess Shaun Hendy will get some more air time this week and recycle his 80,000 deaths prediction.
  
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  February 15, 2021 7:03am
jaysper

How incompetent does this government have to be before Malibu Cindy’s feelz stop winning over the sheeple?
The effects of their sheer awfulness on this country will last for decades.
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February 14, 2021 7:26pm
- Scott
  
  Yes we’re into a continuous rolling maul of lock downs, as David Seymour put it.
  What’s the plan? Are we just going to do this for the indefinite future?
  Surely we’d be moving heaven and earth to get the vaccine out so we can stop lock downs forever?
  Does anyone else think the prime minister is really comfortable right now? Addressing the nation, lock down, concern, frown, the people love it! It’s an election winner!
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:09pm
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    We went hard and early on the vacine from the back of the que.
    
    Maybe later this year after most other countries have finished vaccinating.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:49pm
V

What a fu$king joke. Bloomfraud should be fired for mismanagement. A couple of cases and its lockdown time again.
What happened to Cindys “Gold Star” contact tracing?
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February 14, 2021 7:28pm
- Martin Williams
  
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  You haven’t been using the app. Time for a tune up.
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:45pm
  - GazzaW
    
    [No, best if you do. Play the ball, not the man. Mod.]
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:06pm
  - V
    
    I know you want to cuddle into the bosom of nanny state. But the apps don’t work for all the reasons described here:
    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/05/me_on_covad-19_.html
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:38pm
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Yep, I’d like to take this opportunity to blame the National Party for placing unreasonable and irresponsible pressure on our Jacinda.
    
    It’s demonstrably their fault – shall we start a Facebook flame campaign?
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:26pm
  - Mr_Blobby
    
    No I don’t have the app, won’t get it won’t use it and don’t sign in anywhere.
    
    If the ministry or retards contacts me about getting a test they will be told to fcuk off.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:53pm
    - curry4me
      
      mr_Blobby: Same here. I just use made up details.
      
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      February 15, 2021 3:29pm
- Observer of Life
  
  I was watching St Ash watch Cindy as she babbled and thought to myself .. imagine if St Ash suddenly just said “ENOUGH… enough of the bullshit Cindy.. folks, this is the reality…” and actually fronted with the truth. God wouldn’t that be incredible to watch. I was trying to imagine Cindy’s face at that point. It would be a beautiful thing to watch that’s for sure.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:08pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    Actually I thought St Jacinda looked a tad stressed, being yanked from the loving arms of her adoring faithful at Coyle Park and forced to deal with unpleasant reality.
    On other things, she still talks about elimination, as if that will ever happen. Covid is something like the flu that we will have to live with whether we like it or not.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:58pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      No, no, you’ve got it all wrong. The vaccines will work, all will be saved, there will be world peace, kisses and hugs for all, child poverdee will be a thing of the past, there will be houses for all, Jacindia & St Ash will stop lying/misleading, the MSM will start doing their jobs as journalists and report the truth/news, & pigs will sprout wings & fly…..
      
      Or we will all wake from this horror show to see the real truth…
      
      PS.
      This afternoon the traffic heading south through Warkworth was bumper to bumper hell. Tonight, the traffic heading North through Warkworth on SH1 is bumper to bumper hell. Well done Jax & Ash, Aucklanders have taken your advice and are heading north to their batches outside “Auckland.
      
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      February 14, 2021 10:48pm
  - Rich Prick
    
    Cindy wets herself and we fuck our economy all over again. These are clearly South Auckland cases probably from the airport or the mail centre. Lock down South Auckland by all means, the Chyrelles of Auckland will still make their money from twerking their arses on YouTube, and everyone north of the Manukau Harbour get to keep paying taxes to support Chyrelle’s 18 kids.
    
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    February 14, 2021 11:54pm
- all true
  
  She still waffling on about being kind to each other.
  Well done to all the NZ Voters which voted these useless characters into power.
  Still believing to completely eradicating these viruses must be living on another planet or is serious mentally handicapped.
  
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  February 15, 2021 8:33am
Hard Cheese

What happened to last year’s mantra – “the worst thing we could be doing is yo-yo between levels”. And yet, here we are
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February 14, 2021 7:30pm
lifesgood

Bloody hell! Will this power trip never end?
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February 14, 2021 7:30pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Historically these power trips end in one of two ways:
  
  1. At the ballot box
  2. In the absence of democracy, with violence
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:47pm
  - Dougal10
    
    Number 2 doesn’t usually end well for those who were in charge.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:03pm
ByGolly

Ardern said: “We are going to be okay.”
“I’m asking New Zealanders to continue to be strong and to be kind.”

Fuck this woman is a nightmare.
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February 14, 2021 7:36pm
- Tall Man
  
  Ninny not nightmare.
  
  Look for the strings behind her, the head bobbing is due to a loose string 😉
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:58pm
krazykiwi

Utter madness. The goose-stepping Covid true believers will be overjoyed. More state power. More fear mongering.
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February 14, 2021 7:37pm
- Martin Williams
  
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  2,500,000 vulnerable people have died from this virus so far. Many more would have died were it not for response measures.
  
  You don’t care though. For you it is the paranoid delusion that the state is trying to take control.
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:47pm
  - tf78
    
    Martin, 2,500,000 people died in 2020 the same as they did in 2018 – there was not COVID then my friend. It used to be called just ‘the Flu’ now it’s a new strain of flu, but still the Flu and we weren’t locked down then, now it is a matter of getting the Great Reset in action so we can Build Back Better – wake up man.
    
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    February 14, 2021 7:55pm
  - Tall Man
    
    So 600 people with the “disease” in NZ since September. No deaths, no hospitalisations yet you are dumb enough to still believe the horror stories.
    
    More fool you.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:00pm
    - hullkiwi
      
      Correction, 1 hospitalization on Friday, and that person died on Saturday.
      
      We are in this lockdown, because yesterday morning they had an “oh fu*k, we’re in the sh1t moment” yesterday morning when the 3 Sth Aucklanders test results came back positive. That is why Jax had to get to Wellington and why she had to do a lockdown press conference last night.
      
      The hint of the fact they are in a hole was alluded to by Ashley, when he corrected the diversion line that it was the mother who caught the bug in the laundry. The reality will be that it will be the daughter who caught from a friend prior to Waitangi weekend and it may have been at school or somewhere else. And as to the source, no one will know, but it will have an identical sequence to those that “escaped the Pullman”, meaning it has been circulating Auckland for 2 to 3 weeks. So, my pick, within 48 hours we will be at Level 4 for 2 weeks.
      
      This is just my hunch, it is not proven fact, but given the events of the past 3 weeks, it would be a safe bet.
      
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      February 15, 2021 6:14am
      - tf78
        
        Hullkiwi – don’t, please just don’t give them any more ideas.
        
        Can anyone remember if it was someone on this blog that said they’d heard very early on this year, there was to be a pre-planned lockdown somewhere around 12 February. Anyone else remember that or did I just dream it?!
        
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        February 15, 2021 9:16am
      - rererangihirihiri
        
        No tf78 you didn’t dream it. We heard there was going to be a lockdown for Dorkland on or about 15th January. Give or take a month.
        
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        February 15, 2021 11:40am
  - Master Mariner
    
    Well guess what, there will be plenty more that do as time progresses.
    
    Simply a fact.
    
    Everyone now understands we have to Live with it.
    
    Let that sink in.
    
    Cant hide your head under a rock and hibernate the rest of your life through fear of this and fear of that.
    
    FWIW we are going in and out of ports where its rampant, Do we get it onboard No.
    why?
    Because we have a robust action plan, through sensible checks and balances. IE everyone knows there job through clear conscise communication and leadership.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:00pm
    - lastmanstanding
      
      Ahh Yes Master Mariner. But you and your people are competent. Not so Cindy Blumfooled et al.
      
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      February 14, 2021 10:28pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    I get that you believe the fear porn, Martin. But do some research beyond gleefully absorbing the State-sponsored narrative.
    
    And delusion? The state is forcing healthy people into isolation. I’d say control has already well and truly been taken. No delusion needed.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:05pm
    - Martin Williams
      
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      For what it’s worth I don’t think this will be an arduous or lengthy level change but I’m afraid even after a year of information on this you still have zero idea what is going on.
      
      Healthy people are in isolation because healthy people can contact the virus and spread it when they move around.
      
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      February 14, 2021 8:13pm
      - The Housekeeper
        
        Martin, a year on and nobody knows what’s going on, least of all those in charge. They’re a bloody embarrassment.
        
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        February 14, 2021 9:26pm
      - krazykiwi
        
        Healthy people are in isolation because the government is is clueless, having trapped themselves.
        
        And spreading? You mean like colds which can lead the pneumonia and death? Or the flu which has killed 100s of NZers in the last year?
        
        Do some research, Martin. You run the risk of learning something.
        
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        February 14, 2021 9:44pm
  - Frank the tank
    
    Welcome (little) Aotearoan. Big gulp from the Koolaid tonight? I’m guessing you are getting quite excited about the next 3 days while the rest of us try to figure how we are going to run our business.
    
    The tyranny of numbers a (little) Aotearoan’s intellectual crutch. Care to tell me that as a percentage of the world’s population?
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:07pm
Handyman

None of the media asked the obvious question..
Was this person in the first group to be vaccinated?
On other words, if we actually were at the front of the queue, would this person have been vaccinated last month.

This lockdown is therefore a direct result of government incompetence.
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February 14, 2021 7:41pm
- Mags
  
  Well you don’t wait until the boat is sinking to put your life jacket on. If we were never going to be first then why say it? Apparently the order for the vaccine was just placed late last week after the medsafe testing was completed. Hard and early folks, hard and early.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:48pm
- Bob
  
  That question wasn’t in the list of approved questions supplied to the chosen media.
  
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  February 15, 2021 10:59am
UrbanNeocolonialist

>$100million a day lockdown cost in the wake of yet another fuckup. Get the quarantine facilities out of the major cities!! 1 day of lockdown cost averted would pay for it.
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February 14, 2021 7:42pm
Frank Hematuria

Three cases in Auckland, two of whom traveled to New Plymouth, and immediately Auckland is into level 3 and the rest of the country, all of it not just New Plymouth – is into level 2? Either this is political manipulation of the highest order, power for power’s sake, or there’s a lot more behind this that our open and transparent government is not letting on. Maybe it’s “and”, not “or”.
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February 14, 2021 7:46pm
- Close Hen Counters
  
  I’m seething – son cannot fly to university in Christchurch, Jetstar phone line just about blew up and when you get someone on the line, they have no fucking clue. All Auckland schools will be closed not just papatoetoe, all medical registrars who have spent day in day out for the last year studying for their consultant physician exams tomorrow will have that cancelled ….. when positive cases were floating around north land, no panic???? And that fucking idiot says be kind
  
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  February 14, 2021 7:59pm
WaveyDavey

There’s a scientific argument, advanced by Matt Ridley amongst others, that the way we deal with positive cases – lockdowns, moving them rather than isolating at home etc – is promoting the more virulent strains at the expense of the less transmissible ones

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2020/12/22/lockdowns-may-actually-prevent-natural-weakening-disease/

“Viruses will always evolve to be more contagious if they can, but respiratory viruses also often evolve towards being less virulent. Each virus is striving to grab market share for its descendants. The best way of achieving this is to print as many copies of itself as possible while in a human body, yet not make that person so ill that they meet fewer people.

Where the sceptics have a point is that it is a worrying possibility that lockdowns could prevent this natural attenuation of the virus. They keep the virus spreading mainly in hospitals and care homes among the very ill, preventing the eclipse of lethal strains at the hands of milder ones.

If so, and it’s only a possibility, then not only do lockdowns fail to wipe out the disease, they may be prolonging our agony.”

i.e. our default reaction of lockdown is going to make it last longer
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February 14, 2021 7:47pm
- Anthony Coates
  
  I think this is correct. There is also the notion that social distancing causes the mutations with the most range to proliferate. But of course the whole premise is flawed because the virus simply doesn’t have the lethality to justify the lengths we are going to to hide from it. Our strategy still supposes it has an IFR of above 1% (3.5% was feared in February 2020), when in reality it is about 0.15-0.3%…
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:39pm
  - WaveyDavey
    
    TBH as I’m not a virologist or an expert in disease transmission I wouldn’t have a clue
    
    It is surprising that it’s not discussed though
    
    In the same week that the WHO said that they didn’t have a clue where Covid came but it definitely wasn’t a lab in Wuhan, oh no. Perish the thought…
    
    And the same week that Facebook marked Ian Birrell’s piece on that as fake news
    
    https://unherd.com/2021/02/the-whos-covid-shame/
    
    https://unherd.com/thepost/facebook-censors-award-winning-journalist-for-criticising-the-who/
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:13pm
  - WaveyDavey
    
    http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/stresses-and-strains/
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:15pm
Fletch

Still, it makes you wonder if it’s a ploy to convince us to take the vaccine shot….
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February 14, 2021 7:48pm
- Martin Williams
  
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  I think there are three things going on. One is that they haven’t tied up the source. Then they are concerned about the movement of the family post infection. And thirdly, it’s a shot across the bow of an overly casual public.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:17pm
  - mercutio13
    
    A $100m cost a day shot across the bow sounds totally reasonable. Cheap at the price!
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:01pm
  - Shaun the Sheep
    
    It is obvious the “overly casual” (your words, not mine) public is comfortable with the risk and prefer to go about their lives fearlessly and with minimal government interference.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:08pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      Perhaps if you used the scanner we wouldn’t have to move levels.
      
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      February 14, 2021 9:47pm
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        I listened to the Uni of Otago bloke on RNZ this afternoon – he wasn’t overly complementary of the current govt’s efforts. The announcer was relieved to stop for the news…
        
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        February 14, 2021 10:01pm
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        Martin
        
        You seem obsessed with scanning. The virus doesn’t just infect those who haven’t scanned. So scanning doesn’t make any difference. Besides not everyone can get the app or even has a phone. Then there’s the privacy issue. Relying on an app is as silly as relying on a vaccine.
        
        We have a vaccine for the flu yet about 500 people die from it in NZ each year. The vaccine won’t be a panacea.
        
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        February 15, 2021 7:12am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    I think the vocabulary utilized by your Jacinda this evening suggests to brace yourself for an extension
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:58pm
    - alloytoo
      
      I think you’re right.
      
      Has anybody told her there’s no election this year?
      
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      February 15, 2021 9:20am
      - Bob
        
        ‘No election this year’!!.. not that we know about as yet.
        
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        February 15, 2021 11:01am
  - lifesgood
    
    So why isn’t New Plymouth, Taranaki at level 3. Beggars belief. Booze ups and breweries come to mind
    
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    February 14, 2021 10:08pm
Tom Hunter

Last year on the UnHerd channel there was an interview with a senior Swedish epidemiologist, Professor Johan Giesecke, discussing how to deal with Wuhan Flu, and it included this key comment:

Getting out of the lockdowns will be the big challenge since the question is around which restrictions can be lifted, followed by watching for upticks in cases and deaths at each stage, with increases met by what? Reinstating the restriction?

Yes, and that was on April 20, 2020.

And here we are.
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February 14, 2021 7:49pm
Fisiani

The UK has already vaccinated 16,000,000 people. We were told that we would be at the top of the queue and still have vaccinated no one.
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February 14, 2021 7:49pm
Frank the tank

So given our feckless media are to busy sitting on their fists let’s fire off some pertinent questions:

– what was the PPE situation at LSG Skychefs and if this is the source of the outbreak can we sue their ass?
– what happened to the suburb by suburb lockdown plan discussed late last year? Why does everyone have a suffer because someone was too lazy to clean their hands and wear PPE?
– why is Taranaki sheeple still at L2?
– why is the SI not at L1?
– why haven’t they confirmed the geonome yet?
– why was the big gay out and Americas Cup allowed to proceed with large crowds?

This fucking reeks – (little) Aotearoa will be in raptures tonight about our speedy response conveniently ignoring how it came into the country in the first place.
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February 14, 2021 7:51pm
- Billy
  
  Jacinda, Grant Robertson, and many other Labour party members were at the big gay out.
  
  https://twitter.com/PunkKia/status/1360893220238987271/photo/1
  
  Are you really to believe they weren’t aware at that point?
  
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  February 15, 2021 6:12am
  - emmess
    
    Maybe just like for BLM/Antifa riots, LBGTQQQUUDJHDJDHSJASDHKSDJK people are consider woke enough to be immune.
    
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    February 15, 2021 8:23am
  - Frank the tank
    
    The Blairite knew on Sunday morning. Waited till her gay mates had their day in the sun then pulled the trigger. Would be just rewards this turned into a super spreader event.
    
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    February 15, 2021 8:57am
Master Mariner

I’d really like to introduce how we mitigate COVID at sea and during Port Calls etc .

Get away from, enquiries, special reports, commisions, Consultants.

What we need is someone who can actually implement it.

instead of Winging it
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February 14, 2021 7:53pm
Max Sky

Deliberate motivation for control. No for me.
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February 14, 2021 7:56pm
Alan Wilkinson

I was hosting two elderly couples for their few days of holiday tomorrow that they booked months ago. Likely they are now shut up in Auckland. Be kind is a sick Orwellian joke.
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February 14, 2021 7:59pm
- kevn
  
  @Al… They move on before midnight, no prob.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:12pm
  - Mags
    
    Can still move about tomorrow if legitimate reasons without needing ‘paperwork’.
    
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    February 14, 2021 8:57pm
    - Rich Prick
      
      Wow, needing “paperwork” to go for a drive. My grandfather was shot attempting to liberate France. Look at how far we have come.
      
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      February 14, 2021 11:14pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  They’ve cancelled. Will try to rebook but who knows when or if they’ll be allowed out.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:56pm
Brian McDonald

When everyone stops panicking. I’m interested in how the laundry was handled.
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February 14, 2021 8:00pm
- Frank the tank
  
  What’s the bet no PPE or sanitisation procedures.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:10pm
- Lance
  
  Sounds like it needs to be shoved in a furnace by robots.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:12pm
- hullkiwi
  
  Brian, my question too. But the scary questions are:
  1. if the daughter infected the mother, where did the daughter get the virus from?; and
  2. At Anniversary weekend, 3 community cases, no lockdown. No holiday until Easter, but now 3 cases in South Auckland and 1.5 mill are now held hostage at home, now tell me that isn’t Jacinda playing politics?
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:22pm
  - Brian McDonald
    
    I’m waiting to see hullkiwi. There were recently comments about no proof of touch contact and we’ve been hearing a lot about the aerosol spread. Science shows that there could be a gap in that logic.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:07pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Are you going to bid for it?
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:28pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  A journalist asked this question to Ashley Bloomfield at 1:30.
  
  He said the laundry was collected from planes and delivered to LSG Sky Chefs where the mother works.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:12pm
- alloytoo
  
  This is another Red Herring like the cold Store debacle.
  
  I suspect this will be another MIQ breach.
  
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  February 15, 2021 9:22am
Inandout

Read between the lies folks. Our princess is so dodgy.
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February 14, 2021 8:02pm
- Mag Anz
  
  An experimental vaccine is coming, this is to instill fear so they come lining up for them shots.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:45pm
SmokerGuy

I despise this government more than any I can remember but the criticism of them is difficult when you consider governments worldwide of both left and right have approached covid in a similar way to this. They’ve fucked up almost everything else they’ve done since being in power but on covid they deserve at least some credit (as painful as it is to admit). We’ve had a pretty long run of no restrictions to be fair.
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February 14, 2021 8:07pm
- Shaun the Sheep
  
  I cannot agree.
  Every case of COVID-19 has come over our too-porous border. Every death is a failure to protect at the border. Serious testing did not start until after the first deaths were recorded. PPE supplies were entirely inadequate.
  Our pandemic response has been all hat and no cattle.
  
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  February 14, 2021 8:54pm
  - SmokerGuy
    
    I’m not saying they have done it perfectly by any stretch but has any government around the world? Look at Australia for example, they’ve had outbreaks as well. As I say I am no fan of this government by any stretch but compared to other countries we’ve done pretty well up to now.
    
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    February 15, 2021 6:41am
- hullkiwi
  
  I agree with some of what you say, but most of what you wrote is misinformed based on the rubbish coming from the govt PR spin machine. You should tune into what Prof Des Gorman, and Sir Reg Avery have been saying about the “luck” of the govt and the MIQ etc. In fact, Gorman has been correct about [what] should be happening everytime he has been interviewed on TV and radio.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:05pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  I don’t give them much credit. They’ve got one of the easier jobs of it in the world – remote islands at the bottom of the world, small population, low population density, and low inbound visitor volume..and yet they still manage to fuck it up one way or another. They’re very quick to point the finger at the US and UK and say “how would you like to be like them” when those countries have an immeasurably more difficult task to protect their populations.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:13pm
jp_1983

So a case at the Pullman – no level change
Case in south Auckland level change

Btw this is how it will play out
We will be in level 2 for a week
They will drop akl to level 2 with everyone else the us back to level 1
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February 14, 2021 8:15pm
- Brian McDonald
  
  Big difference in the trace opportunities, very narrow beginning. This one has more heads.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:08pm
  - Martin Williams
    
    Reading between the lines I don’t think this family was scanning.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:45pm
    - R
      
      Many people aren’t scanning for the reasons above. The virus doesn’t just infect those who haven’t scanned lol
      
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      February 15, 2021 7:14am
hullkiwi

Police State warning….our phones have just “alarmed” us. This is sick….
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February 14, 2021 8:27pm
- Bloody Dago
  
  It’s “1984” gathering speed to its inevitable conclusion
  
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  February 15, 2021 8:15am
Anthony Coates

She was in full “check out the epidemiology I just learned but am pretending I knew all along” mode tonight… When she said “what we call fomite transmission…” as if it wasn’t a basic term and as if she had more than a Comms degree from Waikato I just about threw my laptop against the wall…
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February 14, 2021 8:28pm
- Brian McDonald
  
  You should throw your computer against the wall, knowing a basic term and applying it to the Covid 19 context are 2 different things.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:17pm
  - Anthony Coates
    
    Anyone who has read even semi-enthusiastically about virology and epidemiology over the last 12 months knows what fomites are. She always takes the mic back from Ashley just to humble brag a few buzzwords to make herself worthy of the Covinda moniker. It’s so transparent, and embarrassing for even armchair epidemiologists like me.
    
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    February 14, 2021 9:25pm
JimBobJoe

Wtf…..

It’s a variant in a family of viruses the human body has evolved to cope with…..

Martin Williams “2.5 million vulnerable people dead’… big scary number…..

UNTIL you consider there are North of 7.8 BILLION people on the planet… I.e. the death rate is tiny.

Lock up the sick and infirm. Everyone else get the virus and build your immunity via exposure.

Hell I wonder if the lockdown hasn’t made it worse by not exposing healthy people to the original version. It’s now apparently mutated and is more infectious…. would we have been better all getting the first version and programming our immune systems to id and destroy it????

Not interested in taking the vaccine…. it’s not in my view necessary for standard issue reasonably healthy people…
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February 14, 2021 8:33pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Hell I wonder if the lockdown hasn’t made it worse by not exposing healthy people to the original version.
  
  After millions of generations, you and I exist because our antecedents’ bodies were exposed to, fought off, and became genetically stronger because of contact with thousands of pathogens they encountered each and every day.
  
  Ardern’s isolationist strategy will help turn us into a 1545 Mexico. Look up cocoliztli.
  
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  February 14, 2021 10:01pm
Maggie's partner

The only solution is to totally shut the bloody borders. At some point we have to acknowledge that the interests of the 5m who stayed in NZ and contribute to it are above the 1000s who fucked o0ff elsewhere to make money
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February 14, 2021 8:41pm
- Debs
  
  There are hundreds of perfectly valid reasons for NZers to be overseas and we cannot deny them entry to their home.
  
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  February 14, 2021 10:07pm
- sam123456789
  
  Yeah, bugger me for not inheriting any of the greatest Ponzi scheme on the planet and having to work overseas just to earn a decent wage.
  
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  February 15, 2021 1:03am
Max Sky

I am Trump, Don’t follow the leftist Jacinda totalitarian. Tell her to fruck off and carry on as normal.
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February 14, 2021 8:43pm
Shaun the Sheep

I know this is happening fast, but the headline needs fixing – “Auckland lockdowns at midnight”
Just saying.
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February 14, 2021 8:49pm
- PaulL
  
  To “Auckland locks down at midnight”?
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:22pm
Maggy Wassilieff

This seems to be (at least) the 16th border control failure we’ve endured since July 2020.

https://sciblogs.co.nz/public-health-expert/2021/02/12/how-best-to-classify-and-count-nzs-border-control-failures-in-the-covid-19-pandemic/
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February 14, 2021 9:01pm
- sooty
  
  We have been lucky, no thanks to cindy!
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:27pm
davidp

We’ve never eliminated respiratory virus deaths, even with vaccinations. Influenza usually claims about ten lives a week in NZ, depending on the year. So are border controls, quarantines, masks on public transport, and snap lockdowns going to be the pattern indefinitely? From now until the day you die, three or four times a year the government will confine you to your home? And the only people who travel overseas are those who don’t mind spending a couple of weeks locked up when they return and Green Party politicians?

When did the respiratory virus plan change from manage the disease, vaccinate the vulnerable, and accept some level of death… to lockdowns and economic destruction?
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February 14, 2021 9:03pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  It changed in March 2020 when the CoL decided to bring in an elimination strategy for the coronavirus.
  https://www.nzma.org.nz/journal-articles/new-zealands-elimination-strategy-for-the-covid-19-pandemic-and-what-is-required-to-make-it-work
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:34pm
- Hard Cheese
  
  When did the respiratory virus plan change from manage the disease, vaccinate the vulnerable, and accept some level of death… to lockdowns and economic destruction?
  
  When it was discovered that strategy could win elections.
  
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  February 14, 2021 9:37pm
- R
  
  Davidp
  
  The Government keeps on panicking and NZ’s indebtness continues to grow. How much taxpayers’ money is being spent on vaccination? Interestingly many health professionals don’t get vaccinated against the flu. I wonder how many will choose not to get the Pfizer vaccine.
  
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  February 15, 2021 7:20am
Kiwi_in_Paris

Foo ey! Could not see that coming. It’s a good job those noo variants have a tiny little flag so that the scientists can see which country it came from, under the microscope aye? On the serious side, this is so that Cindy can start to cull the elderly with her nasty jab, more efficiently, and more secretly.
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February 14, 2021 9:19pm
lifesgood

They’ve been longing for this to happen.. Haven’t you noticed the ramping up of warnings and threats over the last few weeks. This control, I mean lockdown, has been planned for a long time. Keep people in fear, easier to control. Bars***D’s.
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February 14, 2021 9:22pm
Kiwi_in_Paris

In small places like Gibraltar, when the elderly started dropping like flies after getting the experimental jab, they needed to blame the deaths of the elderly on the new variants, rather than the experimental jab.

It will be the same in New Zealand. There will be sudden outbreaks of the new variants in care homes.

It has become a script that is easy to predict.
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February 14, 2021 9:30pm
- Rich Prick
  
  Yip, I’d rather sneeze for a few days than have some experimental thing that can only exist at minus seventy degrees shot into my arm.
  
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  February 14, 2021 10:44pm
  - MCos
    
    I’m with you!
    I was saying to some people in KFC the other day you don’t know what’s in those vaccines.
    
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    February 14, 2021 11:08pm
WaynelSexton

Budget 2021 is coming up. I guess they needed the covid narrative to help pacify the right wingers as they borrow billions more…
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February 14, 2021 9:31pm
Suze Wainwright

Nothing about teddy bears in front windows – or did I miss it…?
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February 14, 2021 10:33pm
Rich Prick

Did any fuckwit in Cindy’s office think about the effect of screeching sounds from mobile phones on the elderly, especially those in decline, and not used to it? You cunts. Captain Panic Pants is now costing me a short notice flight to my father’s town to help him settle. Cindy, for fucks sake, get the fuck out of our lives you stupid bint.
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February 14, 2021 11:06pm
- ISeeRed
  
  Be kind! Surely that flight is a small price to pay! (That, and $100b of new debt.)
  
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  February 15, 2021 3:09am
- alloytoo
  
  They clearly didn’t think about young children who were asleep.
  
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  February 15, 2021 6:58am
johnny78

Remarkable how the media have swung in seamlessly behind this Sunday night snap lockdown, can’t see any dissent there at all. Well it’s clear who’s in control and it’s not the citizens of this country…
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February 14, 2021 11:44pm
Scooter

Right on time, just after the Waitangi weekend and before the next Jacinda “look at moi” outing in March.
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February 14, 2021 11:54pm
OECD rank 22 kiwi

Welcome to the party, pal!
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February 15, 2021 5:54am
jp_1983

And just like that Ricardo MM is no longer under the microscope
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February 15, 2021 6:46am
RRM

I was pretty sure they wouldn’t dare do a lockdown over people’s summer holidays.

And now, the minute Waitangi Day and all of the anniversary weekends are over – BAM the jackboot falls. Remember who owns you peasants. Report non-conforming neighbours and receive bonus chocolate rations. And above all, be kind. It’s for your own good.
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February 15, 2021 7:03am
kevn

and what about laundry processing from the quarantine accomodation sites? Tonnes of stuff daily. Cheap shitty masks for the at risk workers would be about it.
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February 15, 2021 9:00am
curry4me

My condolences to everyone in Auckland who didn’t vote for socialist Cindy and the no hopers.
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