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CaptainCompromise

There’s a certain irony in the people most likely to accuse others of being “Nazis” for holding opinions they don’t agree with, now supporting unreservedly an organisation who’s main impetus is to eradicate Jews.
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May 17, 2021 8:00am
- Paulus Gnome
  
  What are the team colours Capt’n?
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:58am
- redeye
  
  Adding to the irony is our Iranian Green MP, who apparently needed to flee the regime for her and her families safety, is strongly supporting Iran’s proxy Hamas.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:07am
  - Jack5
    
    The Iranian Green “needed to flee” Iran?
    
    She was 9.
    
    What made Golriz’s agriculture engineer father extend a family holiday visit to Singapore to a commercial flight to Auckland, where the family claimed refugee status.
    
    What was he being repressed for in Iran?
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:40am
    - redeye
      
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/could-auckland-barrister-golriz-ghahraman-be-new-zealands-first-refugee-mp/SRTF5XSAS5KZOOX3LIYFTRNISU/
      
      “Her family fled Iran’s repressive Islamic regime in 1990 when she was 9 and they were granted political asylum in New Zealand.”
      
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      May 17, 2021 12:45pm
    - jon
      
      [Mod: that’s an unnecessary personal attack]
      
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      May 17, 2021 1:13pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      Yes.
      The clue to this answer is the knowledge that the family were granted refugee status. Therefore, they must have been:
      – outside of their home country
      – facing a real chance of being harmed if returned to that country
      – the risk of harm was for reasons of who they are, or what they believe.
      – needing and deserving protection in NZ
      
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      May 17, 2021 1:23pm
      - Jack5
        
        Okay Milky, but what was the nature of the risk to the Ghahramen family?
        
        Was it political? Gender-based? Racial? Religious (are they Baha’is, for example)?
        
        As citizens we are surely entitled to have civil servants share with us reasons for granting refugee status to this family.
        
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        May 17, 2021 2:27pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I don’t know that reasons are ever routinely released for the decisions on refugee status. There is a database of over 1000 decision from the Immigration and Protection Tribunal. Rather unsurprisingly, the names of individuals are not published.
        Perhaps you could advocate for a law change so that you can see the personal details of all applicants for refugee status, so that you can make up your mind on who is deserving of protection.
        But I think we can draw some conclusions:
        1. NZ has a process to grant refugee status to asylum seekers, in accordance with international conventions.
        2. Not everyone applying for asylum in NZ is approved.
        3. Speculation about the worthiness of a specific individual’s refugee status is probably motivated by dislike of the person or their publicly expressed opinions.
        
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        May 17, 2021 3:47pm
      - GJM
        
        And why didn’t they claim asylum in the first safe country they were in, as required? They were in Malaysia.
        She is a lying fatigue country shopper
        
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        May 17, 2021 7:14pm
      - Jack5
        
        Milky, your (3.47 post): “There is a database of over 1000 decision from the Immigration and Protection Tribunal.”
        
        The tribunal rules on appeals against decisions. When did it start deciding on everyone who applies for political asylum or legal entry to New Zealand?
        
        Why shouldn’t a government release individual details of grants of asylum?
        
        Openness would help guard against any bias or corruption in the relevant Government departments.
        
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        May 17, 2021 8:38pm
  - Nickc2
    
    Yep, you can take the girl out of Iran but you can’t take Iran out of the girl as they say.
    
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    May 17, 2021 11:59am
  - CaptainCompromise
    
    I think her privilege is showing
    
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    May 17, 2021 12:21pm
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  It is ironic because what is the impetus for the phenomenon of those people calling people “Nazis” to begin with?
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:09am
Happychappy

Latest Poll Judith Collins plummets in the vote and it is all over her voicing her opinion on He Puapua and what she believes will happen over these papers.
Now you would have to think that if this goes to Parliament and everyone sees Transparency the argument would and could be put to bed, but no Labour and tier Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern don’t want to talk about it.
Well if this was any other Government and had made as many mistakes that Labour have made they would have been under pressure to Govern but not this because of the majority they have after the last Election.
When you think of what has happened under their watch with Ministers and the prime Minister herslf with staff members having sexual assaults covered up , a senior Minister taking his lover on a trip across the World when paid to do Government business, a $350.000 payout from the Speaker on a statement he could not prove against a civil servant when calling him a racist, and generally lie and decieve with many of the problems that have been pointed out about this Labour Government and their incompetence.
Many National Voters have deserted the Party because of the popularity of Jacinda Mania and because she’s nice in their words but a lot have deserted because of Peter Goodfellow and the path he has taken the National Party on and believe he has to much say, so interal problems dont help. I believe if they don’t come together to address internal problems and become less decisive and have a clean out of the deadwood in the top echelon National is heading for disaster with many more years in opposition.
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May 17, 2021 8:00am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  Even rusted on worshippers can only take a certain amount of cuddles, kindness, and wokeness.
  Only 6 motels left for tourists in a well government developed cesspit.
  If voters think this is the future, keep supporting this rabble.
  Tourists will not pay thousands to stay in a ghetto.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:20am
  - Greg Ettridge
    
    I am referring to Fenton Street in Rotorua, a street I was very proud of as a previous Rotorua Tourism Manager, it has now been completely destroyed as a tourist destination, disgraceful.
    
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    May 17, 2021 8:32am
    - Captain Mainwaring
      
      Give Fenton Street a Maori name and all will be well.
      
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      May 17, 2021 8:34am
      - softail 1450
        
        C M ,build a welfare office there and things will get cleaned up super quick.
        
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        May 17, 2021 8:58am
      - Paulus Gnome
        
        Te Skidrowa
        
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        May 17, 2021 9:00am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        I heard Fenton Street described on the radio this morning as MSD Mile.
        
        Sounds pretty apt.
        
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        May 17, 2021 10:30am
    - Frank the tank
      
      Was down there for a kids swim meet this weekend. The place we stayed wasn’t a MSD site and was nice however you could see which ones weren’t.
      
      It’s sad – as a city Rotorua has a lot going for it however the motels for homeless have tipped it over the edge. Can’t see international tourists coming back and enjoying their stay.
      
      The CBD reflects most mid-range cities in NZ – vacancy and decay.
      
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      May 17, 2021 9:19am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    All’s kapai with the universe – Nash only wants tourists at the classy, upmarket end…
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:11am
- KevO'Brien
  
  It’s all over Newshub having a share in the $105M media bribe.
  Judith and national will fight stronger.
  Ardern’s Gobblement must go.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:24am
  - Loddenthinks
    
    Goebbelsmint? Sorry for the horrible reference, but the amount of state-sponsored propaganda being shoved down our throats is very reminiscent of that awful period in history.
    
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    May 17, 2021 8:39am
  - Isobar
    
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    The problem is the stronger Collins fights, the more she goes down.
    
    I suppose there is still some voters out there that she can still lose.
    
    She is toxic, centre voters dont want her and increasingly National voters dont want her. Without the first group you cannot win an election and without the second group – well that is just embarrassing!
    
    Someone new needs to step in to at the least give some of those centre voters a reason to consider National before they are gone forever.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:24am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      The toxicity is the bullying Ardernite wannabe Republicans backed up by activist Maori.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:01am
    - Paulus
      
      You sound like Tova under a pseudonym !
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:12am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Oh dear. Tova I believe is a cussie.
        
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        May 17, 2021 12:50pm
    - Don Beckett
      
      You’re true to your name Isobar – a line on a map depicting wind movement. Perhaps you should change your pseudonym to ‘Weathervane’.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:23am
      - Local Miller
        
        Not to be pedantic, but Isobars are lines of equal pressure.
        
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        May 17, 2021 10:54am
      - Isobar
        
        ^^ What local miller said
        
        All i want is for NZ to have a credible opposition. This one in its current form is a laughing stock.
        
        The government can pretty much get away with anything at the moment because National have been so off the mark with their attacks and finding a way to build the trust of the electorate again.
        
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        May 17, 2021 1:06pm
    - Jack5
      
      A true indication of the flakiness of the latest poll is the mass of Leftists who have swarmed into Kiwiblog with attacks on Collins.
      
      They are scared! Collins is on target and the outrageous South Island water bid of Ngai Tahu will bring back swinging voters in the South.
      
      Leftists like Isobar, would be comfortable with National as a weak and Woke Labour lite.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:55am
      - Isobar
        
        Name calling really wont change the result though will it. It might make you feel better, but its not going to elect National.
        
        If you go back on my previous comments on this blog you will see that I want National to be a credible opposition.
        
        How you think that in their current state they present themselves to the electorate as a government in waiting i would love to know?
        
        They have some major issues and complete dysfunction internally, with a total lack of trust. This is very concerning because whilst they teeter in the rocks, Labour is getting away with anything they want.
        
        Sometimes tough things need to be said, if you want things to change and this might be challenging for you to accept. However if you are happy with their performance on and since the election then by all means continue to pretend everything is perfect. Just dont expect them to be in power any time soon.
        
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        May 17, 2021 1:18pm
    - slightlyrighty
      
      If Collins is toxic, it’s because that is how the media has chosen to portray her.
      
      Ardern is saintly for the same reason.
      
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      May 17, 2021 11:14am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        All done up in a hijab prancing around as Muslim. She will eventually pay dearly for that.
        
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        May 17, 2021 12:52pm
    - Isobar
      
      I seemed to have touched a nerve here. Whilst i understand most of you will blindly follow the colour blue. The reality is that with the voters that actually decide who wins elections Collins is persona non-grata.
      
      However – if your dream National Party is one that competes with the ACT party for the same, shrinking piece of the pie then thats all good with me. But it will be a sad way for the National Party to go out given its proud history of being a centre-right party.
      
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      May 17, 2021 1:24pm
      - Jack5
        
        Isobar and Co. talk of a centre-right party, but what they want is a Labour Lite National Party, centre-left, but not as far Left as Labour.
        
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        May 17, 2021 2:31pm
- EssenX
  
  Don’t panic. Be patient. You are falling into the same trap some did when they rolled Bridges. It is very hard to be the opposition and get traction against a popular incumbent. Just rewind back to the Key years on a left-leaning blog and you will see the same thing we are now seeing on the right. Don’t do what they did by fighting amongst yourselves. Fight the real enemy, one inch at a time; it will be a long, hard effort but there are no quick easy wins.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:25am
  - coge
    
    Election outcomes are mainly determined by events. Replacing Judith with a globalist pinko/David Cameron type would be a very negative event for National. The base would abandon what remains of the support.
    
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    May 17, 2021 8:48am
    - Nigel Kearney
      
      Yep. And if they did find a shiny charismatic person like John Key who was good at winning elections but had no principles whatsoever, getting elected would not lead to any of the country’s problems being seriously addressed.
      
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      May 17, 2021 9:55am
      - fernglas
        
        Remarkable similarity to Labour’s incumbent, isn’t it?
        
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        May 17, 2021 10:15am
    - EssenX
      
      Labour made this mistake with Key, Cunliffe and Shearer trying to “out-Key” Key. Successful politicians carve out their own brand rather than imitate others. When you do this you come across as insincere. Be yourself.
      
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      May 17, 2021 11:57am
  - RockyJ
    
    Agree, EssenX. It is one thing to project the image of a great leader when you front the camera in a crisis and tell people what they want to hear. This is what Neville Chamberlain did when he waved his piece of paper declaring “peace in our time”.
    It is a far greater test of leadership to tell people what they don’t want to hear. This is what Judith must keep doing. We kiwis are trusting people and we cannot believe that our government is as evil as the current Labour one. People did not want to believe Hitler was evil either and we all know how that turned out.
    Keep going Judith. This is your ‘Churchill’ moment.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:16am
  - Isobar
    
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    The problem is – Collins is toxic, half of the MP’s dont even trust her and she doesnt trust them. They dont share information, she keeps things like polling results and even the review of the election under lock and key.
    
    No organisation ever runs successfully like that. Whilst her and her advisors are running the show, the National party will remain on the bench. Imagine if this was a business and there was complete dysfunction between members of the leadership team. They would be cleaned out and replaced. This needs to happen.
    
    Until they can get their internal issues sorted, they will not be trusted by the public to govern again.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:30am
    - Don Beckett
      
      So where are you getting your information from? The last I heard from National insiders tells exactly the opposite. You are listening to Tova too much.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:26am
      - Batman
        
        Well, my friends within the building report pretty much what Isobar said above. It’s currently going through the messy phase, which will take a couple of years to sort out.
        
        I said at the time Judith was elected that we would finally get to find out the result of the much heralded Judith experiment. Many here we’re hugely confident that she would bring about NZ’s version of a Thatcher era.
        
        But political realities say otherwise. The public don’t like her and never have.
        
        The solution is to hold on until the next obvious leader appears, rather than force it before it’s ready.
        
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        May 17, 2021 1:54pm
    - Tony Stuart
      
      The election review was not hers to release. It was commissioned by the National Party Board, and they decided who should have access to any/all of the final report.
      
      The internal issues with the party are being sorted, and there has been a lot of interaction and goodwill between the Board and rank and file members such as myself. There will be significant change to the party’s rules as a result. Caucus discipline is a matter for caucus, the leader, deputy leader and the whips. But caucus members are well aware that there is now zero tolerance for leakers.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:35am
      - Suze Wainwright
        
        Is that why Tova’s being extra salty again…?
        
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        May 17, 2021 11:35am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Judith knows their strategy and will crush them too. Sometimes patience is needed for the blind to fall into a deep drain.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:03am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    This is all happening because the coward John Key ran away when 4th term was in his palm already. I blame him for this mess.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:30am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      ????
      
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      May 17, 2021 12:53pm
    - Batman
      
      SCS – it’s hardly reasonable to blame the leader that left at the right time and with decent senior leadership in place.
      
      It is not his fault that the backbenchers got greedy and demanded their time in the sun without any justification for it.
      
      We’re not Nazi Germany or the Soviet union, we don’t demand that leaders keep going until they give their lives to the nation haha.
      
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      May 17, 2021 1:57pm
      - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
        
        Mullet Muller and Nikki Kaye – Gosh, what a bloody mess before the election….
        
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        May 17, 2021 2:35pm
- G152
  
  The media (alias fake news) has been bought by liebor so anything in media can be dismissed especially political polls…
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:29am
  - kowtow
    
    The poll also showed that something near 30 % don’t support the bubble with Oz .
    
    Think about that , that many want to stay cut off rom the world .
    
    To my way of thinking that shows people have been so scared by the Media fear mongering that they have completely lost their wits , and they’re voters ?
    
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    May 17, 2021 8:43am
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Some of them had already lost half their wits, I fear.
      
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      May 17, 2021 9:21am
    - Isobar
      
      I would say that a good chunk of those are the most vulnerable over 65+ and / or people with pre-existing conditions.
      
      Standardly you would think a good chunk of this group would be core National voters. But what is the party doing for them? Nothing. They are just talking straight past them.
      
      When National talks about Opening up borders and bringing in overseas workers and a big chunk of their former voter base go – well if COVID gets back in we’re in trouble. No wonder why they are voting for the other guys.
      
      I’m not saying that they shouldnt be saying these things, but National need to understand in their messaging there is a huge chunk of people who dont want COVID back and can see it is still raging around the world. National needs to do more to reassure those people and think of their needs.
      
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      May 17, 2021 9:34am
      - Paulus
        
        Their needs are provided for by Cindy and she will continue to look after the middle and younger people as they love money for free.
        Traditional Labourites will as always irrespective vote Labour so they don’t count.
        She has to look after those 400,000 who changed at the last election at her peril. Free social welfare, irrespective of children in poverty as they don’t vote, and Maori aspirations but money will do all that, and the love of money for their media.
        
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        May 17, 2021 10:19am
      - Isobar
        
        I dont understand what that has got to do with my comment above. Both Labour and National has their base that will vote for them no matter what.
        
        It’s not looking after the base that wins elections, sadly.
        
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        May 17, 2021 1:27pm
    - EssenX
      
      In Australia, 73% or so support a “fortress Australia” and continued shutting of their borders until mid-to-late next year. Sheeple isn’t a unique phenomenon to NZ; globally, many people have totally lost their ability to think rationally.
      
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      May 17, 2021 9:38am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Newshub as a poll source?
    Wait till the next visit to the supermarket. The bennies will need a 50% pay lift next April if not before.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:06am
    - Paulus
      
      And as advised today the huge increases in electricity prices.
      Oh, form a committee to look at it, and report after the next election.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:21am
- jv
  
  Goodfellow summed up by his “de-platforming” POLITIK – dumb, dumb, dumb
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:42am
- SmokerGuy
  
  I think the mistake she has made is not raising it but the way she raised it. Using words like separatist does not appeal to your average NZer now days. I think she is right to raise it but it is not the same NZ as it was when Brash did his speech.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:20am
  - oldfella
    
    No, Smoker, it’s NOT the same NZ as it was when Brash did his speech.
    It’s WORSE!
    
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    May 17, 2021 11:13am
  - Observer of Life
    
    People keep going on about Brash’s Orewa speech. Now I don’t think I recall a lot of it, but I do recall the part everyone was up in arms about went something like “One Law For All”. Sorry.. but what exactly was wrong with that?
    
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    May 18, 2021 3:16pm
- oldfella
  
  Happy: Judith is being slammed over her continued questioning of He Puapua, which even Chris Trotter thinks is a time bomb Labour needs to defuse.
  So why would Judith back off?
  http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2021/05/will-labour-defuse-he-puapua-time-bomb.html
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:03pm
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Happy World Hypertension Day!
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May 17, 2021 8:00am
- JackRabbit
  
  Happy down-tick mikenmildagain day. Which is every day, with minor exception when he allows the frog in his throat to say something intelligent.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:32am
- washo
  
  Thank goodness. I was worried about it.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:33am
- KevO'Brien
  
  An a ton of amlopidine to you.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:06am
- Tony Stuart
  
  I hope you never suffer from hypertension mikenmild. It’s not pleasant at all.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:37am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    But one can be happy that there is a world day to celebrate it.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:52am
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Next year you could name one for taniwha peeing in the Waikato.
      
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      May 17, 2021 5:46pm
Frank the tank

After being in Rotorua over the weekend i’m convinced the next 18 months we are going to see a far more highly charged partisan brand of politics.

You either HATE or LOVE what this government are doing. This will be the most defining characteristic of the Blairite’s reign.
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May 17, 2021 8:06am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  Yes, the time to comfortably and complacently characterise oneself as in the “middle” have long gone. This is true all over the West though, because the West is in a war for its survival (although it has been for a long time but perhaps less obviously).
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:15am
  - Suze Wainwright
    
    Angry Andrew proudly claimed he didn’t know where the middle was…
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:38am
[email protected]

I just learned that white people only make up about 12% of the worlds population.
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May 17, 2021 8:06am
- Greg Ettridge
  
  That is great news for all those children being told they are bad white, maybe there is more good mixed races than the schools can see with their racist observations.
  88% are good, now that does create a problem, so few to target and manipulate.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:26am
- burt
  
  Being able to understand that therefor white people are a minority is white privilege.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:55am
  - lastmanstanding
    
    White Priviledge is a construct of the Left. It is designed to pit the races against each other so the Left can divide and rule.
    Smart people will treat it and its proponents with the contempt they richly deserve.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:14am
    - Paulus
      
      But where can the smart people be found – not in New Zealand (AO).
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:22am
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      White privilege and all of the other dull and insipid labels are not based in reality, but are simply rhetorical devices used to batter their targets into accepting forced changes to their societies that run contrary to those peoples interests.
      
      In reality, “White privilege” is assigned to White people to account for the fact that we generally do the right thing and therefore make successes of ourselves and our societies. However, if the enemies of White people accepted this fact, then all of the systemic change in the world (the real goal) would be pointless, because disparities are baked into the racial cake, so to speak.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:33am
  - Jack5
    
    Definitely a minority, Burt, but “white” is a flaky classification.
    
    Some northern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese have whiter skins that most people either European or descended from Europeans.
    
    Many but not all Latinos in the United States, for example, classify themselves as white. In the United States, also, Arabs are designated as white. Apparently some want to be classified separately as “Arab”, with an eye on advantages open to ethnic minorities.
    
    Lightness of skin tone is associated with the caste system of India, and most of the Pashtun majority of Afghanistan are white skinned.
    
    To establish the proportion of the world population that is white, define who is white.
    
    Better that that, leave “whiteness” to the current race-crazed, colour obsessed mob: BLM and followers of Critical Race Theory.
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:58pm
- all true
  
  just woke up and just came out of the burrow, this was always like that.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:26am
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  info
  Yip, we are already the world’s minority, but there can be no rest for the White man. Large swathes of the remaining 88% hate us, which is the principle reason I am against flooding the country with those 88%.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:17am
  - Batman
    
    You think they hate us but that is entirely a figment of your imagination.
    
    Also, 88% is a very specific number. I wonder what else the number 88 means when given silly meanings to certain people….
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:19pm
    - Apropos of the Wet Snow
      
      Mathematics is yet another blind spot to add to politics? 100% – 12% = 88% (see OP).
      
      Listen to the rhetoric, because that’s how I’ve reach the conclusion I have. The same people hate you too, bro, regardless of whether you accept it. Moreover, I explicitly qualified my statement with the phrase “large swathes.” Your comments are typically a malange of strawmen arguments and basic conceptual misunderstandings. You seem to have a good grasp of all the “alt-right” memes though, which is interesting.
      
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      May 17, 2021 2:44pm
Biscuit

I see good ol’ Liverpool are still never walking alone.

Hell, this a.m. they even let their goalkeeper lead the side on their latest stroll in the park…

Life is good, innit!
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May 17, 2021 8:07am
- plc
  
  This Means More
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:17am
- Happychappy
  
  In the 95th minute I bet there was a few shitting themselves.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:22am
  - Biscuit
    
    Happychappy, I can only speak for myself…
    
    So, yes!
    
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    May 17, 2021 8:32am
- Loddenthinks
  
  If you’re a small club that measures success by whether you sneak into the top 4 or not, then yes – I guess life is good.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:12am
  - Biscuit
    
    Bring your head closer to my foot, Loddenthinks, so I can respond appropriately!
    
    [I jest…]
    
    But you are right – from the heights of a Premiership win last year and two Champions League Final appearances (Lost 1, Won 1) over the past three seasons, a fourth-place EPL finish is a BIT of a comedown.
    
    But that’s the joy of Sport, eh? You never know how things will turn out.
    
    You’ll laugh, here – clearly the airwaves are being distorted by some sort of interference – but I am hearing reports that even Wellington’s Hurricanes scored ten tries on Saturday night!
    
    As if, eh?
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:21am
  - plc
    
    Better than being a “big” club that sneaks into a Europa League Final after failing to make it out of the group stages of the Champions League
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:28am
Maggie Pie

Ova Tova?

https://twitter.com/JacindaTrump/status/1393815375247118338
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May 17, 2021 8:08am
- Yabster
  
  that is one of the most disgusting, woke ridiculous things I have ever read- really feel sorry for the poor kid -If I had kids in school today I would be a very concerned parent.
  
  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tackling-racism-in-aotearoa-should-white-privilege-be-taught-in-schools/62GIJ4FAUY7CJ2JYAD6OPFXB6I/?utm_campaign=nzh_tw&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=nzh_tw#Echobox=1621105248-1
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:51am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    Very bleak. Wake up if you aren’t already.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:20am
    - Martin Williams
      
      Wake up if you aren’t already.
      
      Lol.
      
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      May 17, 2021 2:14pm
      - Apropos of the Wet Snow
        
        Marty, you’re obviously heavily anesthetised and inoculated against reality, so we’ll grant you an exception on this one and many others.
        
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        May 17, 2021 2:37pm
      - Okahu
        
        Spot on Mr Williams. Wonderful unconscious own goal by snowy.
        
        Pointing out that when you are awake to an issue makes you woke is not well accepted around here (but should be self evident). Still, there are a number of social justice issues and environmental calamities that cut a little close to the bone with some audiences so the preference is to remain steadfastly slumbering.
        
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        May 17, 2021 9:48pm
  - Kiwi Dave
    
    If you follow Yabster’s link, you will find another link to the Blueprint for Te Hurihanganui, a sort of Paulo Freire’s Pedagogy for the Oppressed with New Zealand characteristics.
    
    Every now and then pedagogic fashions change when apostles with lots of passion but not much evidence vaguely promise the educational big rock candy mountain, which somehow never eventuates, but the apostles, enriched by their endeavours, are no longer around to be held accountable.
    
    Read the Blueprint and ask yourself where the growing number of Asian and PI students fit in its Procrustean dogma, what specific improved outcomes in education it commits to, by when, and how we will know the outcomes have been achieved.
    
    Given our declining PISA outcomes, our international insignificance, our lousy productivity growth and descent down the OCED rankings, the importance of STEM, one might wonder how educationally unproductive all this obsessed, doctrinaire navel gazing will be in the one run.
    
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    May 17, 2021 3:31pm
- kowtow
  
  The way she , OBrien, delivered the poll news was beyond parody of a disinterested reporting journalist .
  
  She was in ecstasies .
  
  All she wants is the scalp. Our Media Party are a disgrace.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:46am
  - Batman
    
    It was all very well and good when it was Labour being slayed by media polling and hot takes.
    
    But I see partisans are now hugely concerned now that the shoe is on the other foot
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:28pm
    - Wired-one
      
      Oh that was the same media during Key’s term, that had stories of people sleeping in cars every night right? Yet poverty and hardship numbers have since quadrupled with this change of government and now we get SILENCE on the matter. Wake up moron.
      
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      May 17, 2021 4:40pm
plc

Don’t worry about the latest poll.

It will all turn around when Simon’s book signing tour begins.
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May 17, 2021 8:19am
- JackRabbit
  
  These days polls are about creating public opinion, not reading public opinion. It is all how you phrase the questions. Since very little of the media is objective and transparent, do you really expect polls to be objective and transparent? The polls have been weighted, target audiences selected subjectively, and questions carefully worded.
  
  In addition, a large percentage of the populous are very afraid of speaking their truths for fear of being earmarked for some future re-education camp with barbwire fences, so mostly are likely to say diddly squat about what they really think.
  
  There is a lack of real ball busting leadership in the opposition that is not afraid to call out the socialist platitudes for the horseshyte it really is. Without strong leadership, the public will cower away from speaking the truth, no wanting to being martyrs. The lack of leadership is because the incumbent lot, keep labeling alternates views or dissent as hate speech or right wing extremism.
  
  It is not just Judith Collins that needs to be bold and brave, it is the public. As weak as she may appear, she is probably the only one at this point in time with enough experience and grit to face off with the enemy in the bed.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:45am
  - RockyJ
    
    Absolutely Mr Rabbit!
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:25am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    One outcome of this poll putdown will be for Judith to work Ardern harder in the House. When the Nats unleash, if they have to, it will be like a steamroller in Tiananmen Square.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:12am
I remember when

So what does doing away will ALL fuel-burning cars do for the vintage, Antique, classic owners.
Will their vehicles have to be towed around by EVs if they want to be used in 2051.
No more vintage air shows.
The end of the nostalgic steam engine journey.
Will they all have to retrofitted with an electrical motor.
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May 17, 2021 8:24am
- JackRabbit
  
  “The end of the nostalgic steam engine journey.”
  
  On the current pattern of sliding into third world status, you might see old Steam Locos being pulled from preservation societies and used t0 pull freight, powered by a billion trees or coal, after someone with no brains ends up annoying an overseas supplier, banning diesel on a whim, or the electricity grid overloaded because no more dams are being built.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:52am
  - Happychappy
    
    The only way National can win is change their outlook on Politics and do what the voter wants not what the President wants , we can court China in trade deals but we must stop selling our soul to them for large donations, we must do things to prosper New Zealander’s not the Parties Politcs, and to do that we must vet our candidates to make sure they have the experience and expertise to do the job that’s need to be a MP. Make a promise to stand for New Zealander’s and when your do something that shows we need need change and don’t just say we will stick with the policies that are there now that Labour have passed and entrenched, change them because they need changing to make all equal not just a few.
    National need to rid themselves of people like Jamie Lee Ross and his type and bring respect and trust back to the Party and I believe it to start with a New President to get the ball rolling.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:53am
igm

Take note Judith, “Truth” always prevails . . .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/125148836/brewery-owner-behind-racist-rant-says-sales-have-gone-through-the-roof
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May 17, 2021 8:24am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Try reading the full link igm, the bar was closed over the weekend. At least the owner uses his own name, maybe he should also stop drinking his own hops and going on FB.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:50am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Dead right Brian. Ask former North Shore Mayor Andrew Williams if drinking and late night social media use is a good combination.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:39am
  - Martin Williams
    
    Yeah, I thought that as well. Little too much of his own product and started running off at the mouth!
    
    The industry knew about him and his objectionable racist views, and were uncomfortable with it, but they didn’t have enough to really make a stand.
    
    Until now.
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:12pm
  - artemisia
    
    It was online sales through the roof, he said. Try reading the full link.
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:18pm
- hmmokrightitis
  
  Its an interesting one. As part owner of a small craft beer brewery, we saw what happened and reminded ourselves that you are one tweet or post away from oblivion. That he is claiming that sales have gone through the roof – time will tell.
  
  I was asked by one of my clients late last week, when this first blew up, what they should be doing in the social media space. My advice – lock it down, you approve everything, no drinking and posting.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:25am
- Southtop2
  
  and here lol
  https://nominister.wordpress.com/2021/05/14/the-north-face-an-outstanding-company/
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:35pm
Thought Criminal

The left: Anyone who disagrees with us is literally Hitler.

Also the keft: We support the people who want to commit genocide against the Jews.
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May 17, 2021 8:32am
- igm
  
  TC: Are you referring to NZ MSM?
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:37am
- kowtow
  
  Daily Mail shows a convoy of cars , covered in Palestine flags going through a Jewish neighbourhood shouting fuck their mothers , fuck their daughters .
  
  The left and university academic types would call that the diversity dividend.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:46am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I believe the expressions used have included “Kill the Jews”, “Rape their daughters” and “F**k their mothers”. The last one is especially offensive, given Jewish descent is passed down the maternal side of the family.
    
    Despite the fact that there are plenty of videos of this despicable “protest”, I doubt it will make the TV news here, especially after Israel bombed a building in Gaza where overseas media organisations shared space with Hamas.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:43am
    - Jack5
      
      Make the State Media Conglomerate of NZ?
      You’re joking, Tony. (10.43 post)
      
      The Herald is a pack leader today with a hit job on Collins. It wants National taken over by the Woke so it will be a pliant, ever-second Labour Lite.
      
      That would lock in the media subsidies.
      
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      May 17, 2021 11:11am
    - kowtow
      
      A lot of Jewish folk who live in the UK ( even though they’ve been there for a thousand years) are descendants of people who fled Nazi , Fascist, Vichy persecution in the 1930’s and found a safe haven in what is/was arguably one of the best and safest countries in the world .
      
      A country that has opened its arms to many to find a better life .
      
      And yet some of those are not prepared , for whatever reason , to extend peace and succour to their neighbour.
      
      Live and let live.
      
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      May 17, 2021 11:22am
      - Jack5
        
        What’s going on between Jews and the Far Right in Europe?
        
        https://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-right-wing-woos-a-new-audience-jewish-voters-11546257601
        
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        May 17, 2021 3:08pm
ABS4EVA

Good Morning Nuclear Free Aotearoa

Soon to be Land of the Long White Nuclear Cloud

To Illustrate the Strategic Brilliance
and Business Acumen of the
Prime Minister or Chairperson of the
New Communist New Zealand

This guy

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-zealand-is-first-five-eyes-country-to-join-china-s-belt-and-road-project-3l5g7qq6z

Who Jacinda fell over her self to sign up to
what is a TURD World Debt Slave Trap
FOR ABSOLUTE MORONS

That everyone in the world has GOT WISE TO

Well JACINDA is intending to SELL
New Zealand into DEBT SLAVERY

The Debt Slavery Australia is scrambling to
SHUT DOWN ASAP

That Wonderful COMMUNIST CANNIBAK
PRESIDENT XI

Heir to the PSYCHOPATH MAO

Just threatened to NUKE
your nearest Neighbour

That’s right NZ

NUKE NUKE NUKE

AUSTRALIA

Have a NICE DAY
Pleasure doing Business with you

Haere Ra

Britain will not help you and
America IS NOT COMING to your AID
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May 17, 2021 8:33am
- KevO'Brien
  
  Jacinda is not help either. All hui, no doi.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:15am
- Don Beckett
  
  Well ABS4EVA.
  I can’t make a lot of sense of your comments so tend to down tick you – but they’re good for a laugh. 🙂
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:42am
I remember when

There appears to be some thought in Britain (at least among the public) that they may have to have a partial close down again.
If the media wanted to scare the public, with reports of increased virulence of the Indian variants, they have succeeded.
Apparently cases have been imported into Britain.
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May 17, 2021 8:33am
I remember when

Just a thought.
If the Maori Health Authority has an overall power of veto.
How do the Government set the expenditure Budget.
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May 17, 2021 8:41am
- KevO'Brien
  
  The Govt can budget, it’s Parliament which votes.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:16am
plc

Red Radio this morning.

Woman on the DPB looking towards the Budget to make her lifestyle more affordable. Two children and one on the way.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest she’s probably not a widow.

This endless welfare needs to stop…..but it won’t as too many people now have a vested interest as either a recipient or provider. We’ve passed the tipping point
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May 17, 2021 8:44am
- Albert Thrasher
  
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  Stop torturing yourself and tune into Mike Hoskin[g].
  He will tell you want you want to believe.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:26am
- Inandout
  
  pic, think about it. Jacinda needs endless welfare to gain endless votes. It won’t end until the money runs out which if I understand finance correctly, is when the lenders call in the debts. We are nearing the stage where for every working and taxpaying citizen two beneficiaries are leeching off that person. It can’t continue.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:35am
  - Paulus
    
    Nah – Robertson controls the Printing Press so he will print more paper as he is told.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:26am
    - Jack5
      
      And all without inflation.
      
      The rising prices you think you see in the supermarket, the soaring house prices – they are just a mirage.
      
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      May 17, 2021 3:09pm
- Swifty
  
  Six kids under eight years old, no mention of father(s), living on the welfare of others, fed by the marae and she reckons life is tough….
  
  https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018795743/single-mum-wants-govt-to-step-up-affordable-housing-plans
  
  Of course we must assist people in this situation but let’s be clear – the welfare system in New Zealand is not just responding to people in these situations; no, it is creating the need in the first place.
  
  In days gone by, without the welfare safety net, I think it very likely this woman would never have had six kids within eight years – and, just as importantly, however many dead-beat dads are involved they wouldn’t have been allowed to get away with their deadbeatness.
  
  But now, thanks to Labour and the Greens we’re not even requiring the dead-beat dads to contribute if the mother won’t name them.
  
  If you offer something for free, demand will increase. Econ 101.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:36am
  - Hard Cheese
    
    Yep, youngest is 8 months old….what was she thinking, if 5 kids isn’t affordable then how was having a 6th going to make it any better?
    
    As Inandout said above, ultimately we are going to run out of taxpayers to finance this sort of poor decision making.
    
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    May 17, 2021 11:17am
  - Swifty
    
    FFS:
    
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/solo-mothers-on-the-benefit-say-they-need-more-help/ISX36FUNRB5LCBY3NW35DB7Q4U/
    
    “Kimmy has two sons and another baby on the way.
    
    She said being on the benefit is tough.
    
    “It really, really sucks. It is hard to keep afloat or just getting the necessities like bread, milk and all that.
    
    “I can’t even explain, it’s really hard to be on a budget when all your bills go out and whatever’s left is what you get for your groceries.
    
    But Kimmy does not like relying on others….”
    
    Oh, but it appears she does…….and contraception is quite inexpensive.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:04pm
- Jaundiced
  
  They also interviewed a solo mum with 6 kids who was struggling to find a home with 5 or 6 bedrooms that she could afford, and still pay for food for the kids that were very ‘fussy’. She is looking forward to a social housing home that she has always wanted.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:39am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    FFS. Talk about being the author of your own misfortune.
    
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    May 17, 2021 12:42pm
Ruahine

They are us apparently. This is according to at least two members of our Parliament.

https://www.rt.com/uk/523988-palestine-protest-antidemitic-london/
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May 17, 2021 8:46am
burt

Don’t start worrying that your investment in real estate might fall, the kind government has taken care of it by importing a bunch of high worth property buyers to help hold prices up.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300309160/wealthy-investors-due-to-arrive-on-new-border-exemption
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May 17, 2021 8:47am
- Lance
  
  I thought rich pricks were evil?
  
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  May 17, 2021 1:39pm
Tomtoddy

I remember my kids coming home from school in the 1970’s eagerly telling us that we had to stop littering the sides of the road. Harmless, helpful stuff??

No!!!! It was the beginnings of teaching morphing into indocrination. Minds were being manipulated not educated.

I also remember the Vietnam war and the anti-nuclear issues that saw the rise of socialism and communism in the universities. Up until then most of the “red” influence was in the unions. More and more universities became hotbeds of anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-warfare.

Environmentalism quickly became the socialists trojan horse as the Cold War was lost. A cause that was hard to oppose. With universities turning out socialist indoctrinated teachers and journalists it was obvious where it would lead. Litter became CO2. Maths became social justice.

Kids are dumbed down. They are not in this blog arguing against separatism or climate change nonsense. They see a little TV – one eye on their phone, no newspaper, no blog, no facts, no truth.

So dont blame Judith. She has tried to right the wrongs of Key, Bolger, Finlayson et al. She cannot get her message across because she does not control the mic. Maybe it was always too up hill for her.

The fight was lost a long time ago. If you are under 50, get out. Australia maybe. If you are over 50 stay in this echo chamber and vent your spleen. You will feel better as the tide of evil rises.

Godzone is dead. Drowned by the socialist elites. “First they came for the litterers but I didnt speak out because I was not a litterer………..
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May 17, 2021 8:48am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  Today’s kids are bright and open-minded because they live in a world with more information – many are in fact more conservative than in the past and got to that point by making their own decisions with more information at hand.
  
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  May 17, 2021 8:56am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    So you’re saying we should treat young people well and not destroy their lives/murder them?
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:17am
  - Tomtoddy
    
    Bright? – maybe. Openminded? – Nope.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:19am
  - Rumpole 294
    
    In a conversation with a Real Estate agent last week I asked why the current generation of FHB’s were attracted to houses on sections of 400-500 sq m, I expected the answer to be cost but his reply was they don’t want to do gardening or anything that involves manual activity as they prefer to stay indoors playing computer games and posting on FB & Twitter. I see a future health issue of obesity ?
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:05am
    - WaveyDavey
      
      Yep.
      
      I’ve just sold a place to someone exactly like that. One of their main priorities was a “manageable” garden – FYI the section was 395sqm and they are using a gardener
      
      My partner’s child selected a house to buy and the main selling point was a “small” garden. They actually ruled out much better houses because the garden was too big on an 800sqm section
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:33am
      - MCos
        
        Not everyone has green fingers.
        
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        May 17, 2021 3:03pm
  - Cassandra
    
    Sadly, Brian, you’re only partly right. The information is controlled and brighter yes, but not open-minded. Headlines and sound-bites. All paid for.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:21am
- Frank the tank
  
  Post of the day – at least you get it.
  
  The sheeple are Turkeys voting for their own christmas atm as the WuFlu/Housing Inflation delusion shows no signs of abating.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:23am
stinkypete

apparently some media will report the truth! great account of how IDF outwitted hamas with a feint attack from retired british expert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjwdLaefniw
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May 17, 2021 8:48am
Maggy Wassilieff

He Puapua is a plan for the Government to see how a plan of actions could be put into action so that actions could be actualised.

……or something like that….

“Essentially [the remit] was to come up with some sort of plan, or guidance to the government about what a plan of action might look like to realise the action.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the-detail/300308219/the-detail-what-is-he-puapua-and-why-is-it-making-headlines
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May 17, 2021 8:48am
- Philview
  
  What the article doesn’t say is that the document provides measurement on what has been actioned. Clearly this is a document that already forms the backbone of Government Policy. This is an NZ equivalent scandal of Watergate proportions and much of the media are in on it.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:51am
  - Yabster
    
    of course it does, wards, history in schools, health board, next is water… Labour are a very deceitful party – its policy but the won’t admit it yet.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:47am
- mikenmildagain
  
  That’s what you took from a 900-word article?
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:32am
  - zulumonster
    
    What I took from the article was the last line which answers the question raised in the headline as to why He Puapua is making headlines … “And, until there’s equality for Māori, it will be very difficult to have a unified state.”
    Could have saved over 850 words …
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:20pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING…..

On the back of recent polling, Ricardo March is said to have run the numbers and may be considering mounting a challenge for BOTH positions as Co-leader of the Greens.

When approached for comment, he told NewsHub’s Tova O’Brien, “I’m happy just being the MP for Chihuahua”
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May 17, 2021 8:49am
- MCos
  
  He’d have a fair chance as interim leader of the Nats right now.
  He has all the right credentials being entirely opposite to the incumbent.
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:56am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    Thanks for pointing out how great Judith is.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:18am
  - Jack5
    
    Be a little skeptical about the latest poll, MCos.
    
    The polling agency’s methods seem to include automated phone calls (presumably only on line phones – cellphone cost would be too high) and voluntary sign-ups on the Net.
    
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    May 17, 2021 11:06am
- Tony Stuart
  
  “I’m happy just being the MP for Tijuana”
  
  Fixed it for you 😀
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:45am
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May 22 is the date after which the National Party avoids having 4 leaders in one year.

I don’t imagine this will happen because even if Darth-Ju fell over today there would not be enough time to pick another leader by the end of the week, given the stocks available.

However, anything is possible, so it’s a fingers crossed from me.
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May 17, 2021 9:01am
- Yabster
  
  [deleted – OTT personal abuse. mod.]
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:04am
  - Martin Williams
    
    [Or you could just act like an adult and move on. Mod.]
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:06pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Labour are leaderless–they follow the rabble.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:20am
- Tall Man
  
  I’d much rather have 4 leaders than an idiot in charge.
  
  If one looks up to an idiot, what does that make one …….
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:23am
MCos

Yesterday I saw a picture of a guy in a Gaza hospital with his baby who had sustained some sort of injury from an attack that had killed the baby’s mother & siblings.
(Some might say the story is a fabrication, but that’s beside the point)
One day the kid grows up stuck in that dump knowing what’s happened to it’s family. 50% unemployment, stateless, treated like rubbish people It isn’t going to take much provocation to go looking for revenge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/15/world/middleeast/israel-palestinian-gaza-war.html?referringSource=articleShare
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May 17, 2021 9:13am
- Odakyu-sen
  
  Will the kid ask himself: “If I take revenge, how will it help my community and myself?”
  
  Or will the kid be led by radical clerics to “avenge the death of his family”?
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:29am
- kowtow
  
  Yes , hamas and the plo have a lot to answer for .
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:40am
- WaveyDavey
  
  You realise that the government of Gaza is Hamas, right?
  
  Maybe rather than blaming someone else for all his woes said child should ask his politicians what they did with all the cash and how come Egypt also enforces a hard border
  
  Unlikely as (a) he’ll be taught from birth to never ask questions like that, (b) he’ll be taught from birth to hate Jews and (c) he’ll find himself receiving a short, sharp lesson in falling from a tall building if he dared to ask that question
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:41am
- All_on_Red
  
  You think Hamas should be worried about his revenge then?
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:44am
- Happychappy
  
  So mr expert please tell us the solution as no country can stand back and watch hundreds of rocket showering down on them without retaliation.
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:22pm
- JibberJabber
  
  Given Israel goes out of its way, unlike Hamas ~~and Andrew Little~~, to avoid Collateral Damage, it is more than likely these unfortunate civilians are victims of Hamas’ own incompetence.
  https://www.algemeiner.com/2021/05/13/failed-hamas-rockets-falling-short-in-gaza-killed-17-civilians-in-monday-incidents-before-idf-airstrikes-says-security-official/
  
  Not that Hamas’ gives a shit about children and actively places them in harm’s way to garner propaganda points and hand-wringing from wet western liberals who believe everything that comes out of the criminals’ mouths.
  
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  May 17, 2021 3:39pm
Old.Mickey.Blue.Eyes

In New Zealand every medical and para medical registration body has sent letters to members effectively “gagging” the expression of ANY concerns regarding the Covid Vacine in New Zealand.

A few weeks ago over 30 GPs signed an open letter of concern regarding several issues relating to the vacine.

They are now being hunted for censorship and potentially severe consequences.

There is NO INFORMED CONSENT process for the Vacine in New Zealand…because practitioners are TERRIFIED to speak their truth and express their concerns about this medical intervention.
Even David Seymour has claimed to have read research before taking the vacine, but wouldnt say which ones he has read or what he has read.
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May 17, 2021 9:16am
- Sacha
  
  I would expect that GPs are too busy with their every day practices to worry too much about the vaccine.
  From what I can gather, there are a LOT of people who are in no hurry to join the queues, and not just because they have doubts about its effectiveness. They seem to think that the whole pandemic thing is a beat-up, a Cindy Bandwagon if you like, and they don’t want to join the parade.
  I’m hearing a wariness about the coming months. People are trying to work out how to survive the coming shortages, increased prices and Government interference in their lives. Vaccines have low priority.
  
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  May 17, 2021 2:33pm
In Vino Veritas

Michael Moore, hard left activist and rabid greenie, finds out that the Greenie movements in US and other places have been hijacked by capitalists! And quelle surprise, the solutions the greenies have come up with (wind, solar) only exist because of fossil fuels! Who would have thought? Other than anyone with a modicum of intelligence who has done a bit of reading….
Its long, but look around 12:56 GM of General Motors showing off electric car: where does the power come from to charge? Turns out its the Lansing Power Co that uses coal to generate! And then at 25.0, solar panels are made of quartz. And coal. Melted together at 1800F. Greenie bubble burst. Wonder when they will cancel Moore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
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May 17, 2021 9:16am
- WaveyDavey
  
  Ahh the MM documentary that they tried to ban LOL
  
  The Left eats itself yet again
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:43am
- Local Miller
  
  They have already canceled Moore. When Planet of the Humans came out the collective Greenie heads exploded and Moore was deplatformed by them. He’ll never be invited to another left/green conference again.
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:18am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    And I’m pretty sure no one will cry a tear for him…
    
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    May 17, 2021 12:53pm
  - Inandout
    
    LM: He will however still visit Maccas.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:21pm
Maggie Pie

LONDON TODAY – truly frightening.
Yet the police do nothing about it.

Yet this is EXACTLY the types Golriz and her Fellow Travelers support.

https://twitter.com/gunnerpunner/status/1393920559243829248
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May 17, 2021 9:22am
- Frank the tank
  
  BLM/Antifa had some spare time then?
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:24am
- RockyJ
  
  And the UK has hate speech laws? Obviously only apply to white people
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:29am
  - Bluegrass
    
    White folk are (if I can use this word) blacklisted.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:42pm
- plc
  
  Religion of Peace
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:07am
- Gravelroad
  
  Precedent set here with that cool song about raping John Key’s daughter.
  But then I believe he has Jewish heritage so that would be all right then.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:23am
- Martin Williams
  
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  Meanwhile the IDF has murdered scores of children in the last week.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:52am
  - In Vino Veritas
    
    Except they didn’t Martin. You have made that up.
    In the meantime, how come Hamas aren’t having a meltdown about the amount of land Jordan was given after the British Mandate was sliced up? Why are they not bombing Jordan?
    
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    May 17, 2021 12:55pm
  - Inandout
    
    MW: Meanwhile in Africa.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelinaochab/2020/06/15/is-genocide-happening-in-nigeria-as-the-world-turns-a-blind-eye/?sh=780cfaf75405
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:24pm
  - Tall Man
    
    And hamas has tried really hard to do so as well, they’re just incompetent. Maybe they’re ardernists.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:24pm
  - alloytoo
    
    This illustration should explain things for you.
    
    https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/05/Screen-Shot-2021-05-12-at-10.23.43-PM.png?resize=580%2C313&ssl=1
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:26pm
    - Martin Williams
      
      Where would you like the Palestinian resistance to launch rockets from?
      
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      May 17, 2021 2:04pm
      - In Vino Veritas
        
        Palestinian “resistance”? By that I assume you mean the terrorist organisation, Hamas. The only thing they are resistant to is peace Martin.
        
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        May 17, 2021 2:11pm
- Batman
  
  Erm, Maggie, you’re behind the ball as usual. Your gossip vines must be slow!
  
  Four people have been arrested and the investigation is ongoing
  
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  May 17, 2021 4:39pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Erm, Batz, it’s not often you’re right, but you’re wrong this time.
    At the time of posting, no arrests had been made!
    
    I was ‘breaking news’ …..as always 😀
    
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    May 17, 2021 6:57pm
Yvette

While the new Māori Development Minister Willie Jackson says he’s read [He Puapua] in its entirety, Treaty Negotiations Minister Andrew Little says he hasn’t read it at all – ruling out Collins’ suggestion He Puapua had “inspired’’ his announcement of a Māori Health Authority. [1]

Māori Development Minister Willie Jackson has prepared a draft Cabinet paper outlining a possible government response to the He Puapua report. [2]

If Andrew Little, as Minister of Health and Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, has not read He Puapua, should he still be continuing to establish the Heath service changes, particularly the Maori Health Authority, in case Willie Jacksons plan to accomodate He Puapua goes beyond Little’s intentions, and the whole idea has to be looked at again, wasting all their fucking time and possibly hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in our taxes?

Just wondering.

[1] https://www.newsroom.co.nz/he-puapua-the-report-dividing-parliament
[2] https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2018794182/willie-jackson-prepared-draft-cabinet-paper-on-he-puapua
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May 17, 2021 9:41am
- septic skeptic
  
  I think Little is lying like a flatfish. They are using their reputation for lazy incompetence as a smokescreen.
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:13pm
MCos

Yesterday I saw on Facebook a give a little page to raise money for a guy I used to work with in Bangkok.
Now back in the US he was hospitalized in a diabetic coma and was on life support, which was close to being withdrawn when he rallied.
He was discharged facing a huge medical bill and needs to get back to work, although he can barely walk.
Here in NZ we all bitch & moan about paying tax, but when the shit hits the fan at least the hospital isn’t going to add to the financial hardship.
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May 17, 2021 9:50am
- plc
  
  I’m surprised that the USA hasn’t invented medical insurance
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:06am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    If only that were a solution to their healthcare woes…
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:34am
  - MCos
    
    I don’t know my friend’s situation re medical insurance, but I do know that his diabetes is a preexisting condition because he had it in Bangkok.
    I also know that you get what you pay for with insurance.
    Maybe he couldn’t get cover.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:52am
    - plc
      
      Fair enough….the whole point of Obamacare I understood was to ensure people with pre-existing conditions and/or “bad” genes couldn’t be excluded.
      
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      May 17, 2021 12:32pm
  - theoldbloke
    
    haha. Yep the USA has health insurance, Insurance companies own hospitals and due to a stupid law that limited the profits insurance companies could make.
    
    They pumped up hospital prices to reduce the insurance markups. Then, guess what? yep transferred hospital profits to their insurance company owners a dividends.
    
    and that is why the uninsured(premiums are eye watering) have huge hospital bills.
    
    If the effing gummints got out of the way with their “restrictions” life would be better for the lower income punters. Sorta like the house prices in NZ.
    Gummint opened the the door to migration knowing housing shortage, and have laws (RMA, town planning etc etc)restricting land to build on.
    
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    May 17, 2021 12:44pm
bruceavon

Judith has to go, that is certain now. It is just a case of when and for who. I think she did a good job at the election considering the hospital pass she received. But my job brings me into contact with a wide variety of people, many who are younger. Collins is regarded as someone from the past. National need to get someone who can get the votes of younger people and woman otherwise it has no chance. And by young I mean under 40’s and 50’s not teenagers. While the Maori stuff worked for Brash 20 years ago, things have changed now. People get excited about it on here, on talkback, but out in the real world – not so much. As for new leader, while its clear that Simon Bridges shouldn’t have been sacked, I dont know if he’s the answer for the future. Nicola Willis? Chris Bishop? And I dont know why Shane Reti isn’t mentioned. I heard him being grilled on RNZ the other day. He was excellent, and always is. The other problem is timing. It might be better to have Collins hang on and have the change closer to the election.
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May 17, 2021 9:50am
- BananaLlama
  
  If you want to believe Labour is polling higher than their covid election result then that is up to you but don’t go off the deep end over a single newshub poll that is very convenient for a government under increased scrutiny.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:12am
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    Both recent polls showed similar results. And I dont buy into the idea we dont trust polls when they dont say what we want them too. Newshub Reid has been the most accurate in the past. And both polls underestimated Labours landslide result in the last election ( they had National too high and Labour too low). Anyone wants to ignore the polls and who thinks Collins can win the next election is frankly dreaming.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:23am
    - BananaLlama
      
      There is now an 11 point difference between Newshub and Roy Morgan. One of them is telling porkies.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:31am
    - Don Beckett
      
      You are just like the panic merchants who caused the leadership debacle prior to the last election – & see hos that worked.
      Judith is doing a good job – stop being a flake.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:58am
      - bruceavon
        
        “How that worked” was labour got the highest election result since the 50’s. So the polls were right. People on here said they were wrong and National would win. Believing you are going to win when you are denying reality and ignoring polls because it doesn’t correspond with what you think is no help to anyone.
        
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        May 17, 2021 11:42am
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    A lot can happen in 2.5 years, fellas. The Leftist parties and their MSM public relations arm want Judith to shut her hole and stop exposing the agenda. She should therefore do neither.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:24am
    - Tall Man
      
      An astute reading of the situation.
      
      I agree 100%. The more they squeal, the more you twist the knife ….. in a manner of speaking.
      
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      May 17, 2021 11:17am
  - KevO'Brien
    
    The poll needs to be audited.
    I suspect its a jacked up load of bunkum to draw on the $105M bribe.
    That bribe was a very cheap buyout of govt in New Zealand. Cindy only wants her self-adulating communism. Doing anything is beyond her modest talents. All hui no doi. Time for Kung fui.
    
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    May 17, 2021 10:29am
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      Kev, flick me a lazy $100 M and I’ll talk you up incessantly buddy. If not, then not so much.
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:39am
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I suspect its a jacked up load of bunkum
      
      I suspect you have no idea what you are talking about
      
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      May 17, 2021 10:53am
      - KevO'Brien
        
        Kiwi vernacular has not been Maorised.
        
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        May 17, 2021 12:55pm
      - Yabster
        
        well we know you don’t milky…
        
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        May 17, 2021 1:11pm
  - JackRabbit
    
    Quite right. And what average person in their right mind would confess to an unknown pollster from an unknown company with unknown allegiances that they think the current govt are communists.
    
    To take a stand and speak truths boldly and clearly to an unknown pollster, irrespective of consequences takes a very bold person. It is the public that need to change, and grow some testicular fortitude.
    
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    May 17, 2021 11:34am
- JackRabbit
  
  ~~Judith~~ Jacinda has to go, that is certain now.
  
  Collins is regarded as someone ~~from the past~~ with principles.
  
  National need to get someone who can get the votes of younger people and woman otherwise it has no chance. And how woke will this younger National person have to be, and how far will they have to bend over to get the younger and woman votes?
  
  A good leader should have principles and lead on those principles instead of cow-tailing to consensus. If Judith does not have the public support, it just goes to show how far down the left toilet the NZ public have crawled in order to appease the current incumbent. David Seymour is alone voice although Judith and he appear to see eye to eye on a number of things.
  
  I’m not saying Judith is all roses and chocolates, but given the biased media with its controlled discussion boxes and the public muted for fear of retribution, things are not what they seem.
  
  At the moment being on the opposition is like being thrown into a tank of Piranhas, and been attacked from all sides. Todd Mueller thought Simon Bridges was weak, so took control of the party. After being shredded with a thousand cuts, and failing at facing off the key Piranhas, he ran for the hills
  
  To face off Piranhas you have to have very very thick skin. Bruce, please list, in order of skin thickness, the three top contenders for leading the National Party into a successful battle with the Piranhas.
  
  My view is that for positive change, it is primarily the public that need to change. One person on their own, as leader of the National party, cannot save NZ. Only the public can do that.
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:30am
- theoldbloke
  
  Do a labour then??
  Like Little standing down in favour of Jacinda?
  Collins steps down in favour of Reti.
  He has the creds.
  Younger, Maori, professional, lots of Governance experience, military exposure(Served in territorila), overseas creds.
  
  and can handle the media!!
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:48pm
- DeepBlue
  
  I agree with your last sentence, which undoes everything prior.
  
  Timing is everything and that timing should not be driven by Newshub polls.
  
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  May 17, 2021 2:10pm
plc

If, as Chippy says, we are vaccinating too fast for our quantity of vaccine stocks….and as yet all people in high risk categories haven’t been vaccinated….then why did existing vaccine stocks get given to the NZ Cricket team and Olympic team members.

Doesn’t make sense.
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May 17, 2021 10:04am
- JackRabbit
  
  “…we are vaccinating too fast for our ~~quantity~~ quality of vaccine stocks…”
  
  Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. As the vaccine companies have told us, the mRNA vaccines are “programmed” in the way they operate. The Vaccines only have emergency approval, so have no substantial or formal prior Beta testing, either for the Covid-19 vaccine, or the mRNA delivery system. It would pay to let the dust settle on programming “bugs” within the mRNA vaccines.
  
  And as it happens, WHO is investigating the Seychelles, where 37% of positive Covid-19 tests are from people that have had both the Vaccinations.
  
  If you have to have the Vaccinations, it would be smart to schedule a Covid-19 test three weeks later. All may not be what it seems.
  
  https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/who-reviewing-seychelles-covid-19-data-after-fully-vaccinated-people-test-2021-05-11/
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:50am
  - Pharmachick
    
    mRNA vaccines are safe and efficacious.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:34pm
    - KevO'Brien
      
      Are spike proteins?
      
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      May 17, 2021 5:51pm
- DeepBlue
  
  A few thousand to those groups makes little difference to the Vax rollout.
  
  But it does make a very interesting case study wrt the impact of the Vax on the fittest, healthiest people in the world. All lining up to deliver their Personal Best performance, where the stats and no-shows become quite glaring.
  
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  May 17, 2021 2:17pm
NoFax

I have not seen anything in the media regarding the Green trio and their anti-Semitic vile. Are the media covering for them or just ignorant?
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May 17, 2021 10:07am
- kowtow
  
  Our media are excoriating a brewer for saying very rude and nasty things , and by highlighting this are doing their best to break him and his business.
  
  The same media running cover for far left extremist MPs who are openly supporting one of the most homophobic , misogynistic, racist , undemocratic , violent and vile regimes on this planet.
  
  Draw your own conclusions about where the Media Party’s sympathies lies.
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:36am
  - Inandout
    
    kow, phone Leana and the What Now guy on radio and make your concerns known. They may try and hush you if you speak of the true racism of the Maori radicals, but the brewer is fair game.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:30pm
grumpy

Our Mainstream Media, breathlessly trashing Israel for demolishing a building that AP and Al Jazerra shared with Hamas while claiming that Israels claims were BS.
Turns out AP knew in 2014 that their building housed Hamas, even reporting that Hamas were firing rockets from the unit next door.
Turns out Israel gave all the documentation to Biden’s State Department who were satisfied with the explanation.
More information that AP are in bed with Hamas.
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May 17, 2021 10:21am
- grumpy
  
  Link for above.
  https://www.foxnews.com/media/ap-torched-for-claiming-they-were-unaware-of-hamas-intel-operation-building-difficult-believe
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:29am
  - Batman
    
    The original piece in The Atlantic from 2014 doesn’t say Hamas were based in the building but that they launched rockets from right outside and then went inside to threaten the reporters not to report that it was used as a launch site, which they complied with.
    
    It (the piece) is an indictment on the overall culture of the press in the area, not just that on incident which Fox News wants to hype up.
    
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    May 17, 2021 4:52pm
Maggie Pie

I often have ‘Peter Williams’ on when I’m taking my shower.
When I went to tune in this morning, it appears Magic have changed frequency from 702AM to 1840.

Just saying.
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May 17, 2021 10:28am
- grumpy
  
  Is that what they call being on the “Far Right” of the radio spectrum?
  
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  May 17, 2021 10:36am
- Jade Warrior
  
  You have a radio that can go up to 1840kHz Maggie? Do you listen to a lot of shortwave radio? ?
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:29am
  - zulumonster
    
    More like goes back to 1840 ….
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:42pm
- KevO'Brien
  
  Gone around the dial?
  
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  May 17, 2021 5:53pm
Monique Watson

Why is our PM commenting on matters she knows nothing of re Israel and Palestine. And why is the media not reporting the full story of what’s going on. It might have been of interest that Hamas leader Haniyeh was talking to commander on the Iranian Quds force yesterday or that he was bragging that they had won on three fronts and would never let Jerusalem go.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/asumetech.com/ismail-haniyeh-receives-a-call-from-the-commander-of-the-iranian-quds-force/
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May 17, 2021 10:29am
fernglas

Yet another consequence of the world’s Covid policies. Save your Granny and ruin your child.
“Our findings suggest that primary school children may have emotional difficulties at the level expected during the ‘terrible twos’. This could reflect a delay in emotional development that, if not supported, may far outlive the pandemic and have long-term consequences for this generation of children.”
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/16/tantrums-of-terrible-twos-seen-in-much-older-children-in-pandemic
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May 17, 2021 10:54am
Maggie Pie

One of the girls from tennis popped in earlier for a chat.
She was saying she hadn’t heard ZB’s Kerry Woodham mention “….the Irishman” lately.
Fleur was wondering if they’re still an item?
I told her I didn’t have a cloo but would make some enquires.
Anyone??
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May 17, 2021 11:02am
- oldfella
  
  Maggie, is calling Kerry McIvor ‘Kerry Woodham’ dead-naming her?
  Like calling Caitlyn Jenner ‘Bruce’?
  Dead naming is a woke mortal sin these day, and as you’re a keen Catholic you might consider repenting. Maybe something for your next confession. 😉
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:44am
- skyblue
  
  She has moved house recently.
  
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  May 17, 2021 11:56am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Ahaa. Very interesting.
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:24pm
Apropos of the Wet Snow

Violent protestors bent on insurrection storm the Capitol? No, just another false narrative.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/16/video-shows-u-s-capitol-police-gave-protesters-ok-to-enter/

So to summarise: these people were legitimately protesting what they believe was an illegitimate election result, were let into the building by the cops, didn’t kill anyone, were not armed and quietly left once they had taken a few selfies and after one of their number had been killed (the sole death attributable to these events) by a still unidentified individual.

Following January 6, one of the biggest federal investigations since 9/11 has only been able to come up with charges no more serious than trespassing and disorderly conduct. Some of these people are being held in solitary confinement, something murderers usually aren’t subjected to.

Now, a “9/11-style” commission will be formed, with 9/11-style outcomes: “anti-domestic terror” legislation, more mass surveillance, serious crackdowns on political dissidents, and all the rest. And some people have the gall to contrast the “land of the free” and criticise Russia, China and North Korea? Oh, please.
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May 17, 2021 11:07am
- mikenmildagain
  
  I don’t know why you insist on posting such lies. Over 400 people have been charged, mostly with significant felonies that carry prison sentences between five and twenty years. Many of the charges are for assault on law enforcement officers, violent entry and disorderly conduct, theft, weapons offenses, making threats, and conspiracy. Some of the criminal indictments are still sealed.
  At the very least, it was an act of domestic terrorism. At the worst, it was an attempt to violently overthrow the democratically elected government
  
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  May 17, 2021 12:52pm
  - kowtow
    
    How many have been charged with possessing firearms within the Capitol?
    
    Some ‘insurrection’!
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:47pm
    - Batman
      
      Very specific words there kowtow. Designed to avoid the IED suspect no doubt…
      
      https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence
      
      Take a watch of the violent MAGA thugs and have a think about whether you want to be aligned with those people.
      
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      May 17, 2021 5:00pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Not MAGA thugs Batman. They were BLM and ANTIF infiltrators who said they would do this. Trump supporters do not dress like those losers and you know it
        
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        May 17, 2021 5:39pm
  - Apropos of the Wet Snow
    
    You are wrong on every point.
    
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    May 17, 2021 1:55pm
    - Batman
      
      No he isn’t. You’re just playing your role of a simp for white nationalist politics a la the 1930s.
      
      You just don’t like the facts of the matter and choose to believe it was justified because of your warped ideology.
      
      Watch the videos of them beating the cops and tell me it was peaceful.
      
      Silly little boy.
      
      Edit: here’s the full list of criminals and videos of their violent offences. https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence
      
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      December 17, 2020 4:57pm
  - All_on_Red
    
    Still lying eh Mikey
    ‘Americans outraged by the storming of Capitol Hill are in for a jarring reality check: Many of those who invaded the halls of Congress on Jan. 6 are likely to get little or no jail time’
    ‘A POLITICO analysis of the Capitol riot-related cases shows that almost a quarter of the more than 230 defendants formally and publicly charged so far face only misdemeanors.’
    ‘Although prosecutors have loaded up their charging documents with language about the existential threat of the insurrection to the republic, the actions of many of the individual rioters often boiled down to trespassing’
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/30/jan-6-capitol-riot-jail-time-478440
    
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    May 17, 2021 2:02pm
    - All_on_Red
      
      ‘the Justice Department has since acknowledged in court hearings that some of its evidence concerning the riot – carried out by a mob of supporters of former President Donald Trump to try to overturn his election loss – is less damning than it initially indicated.’
      ‘the Justice Department has since acknowledged in court hearings that some of its evidence concerning the riot – carried out by a mob of supporters of former President Donald Trump to try to overturn his election loss – is less damning than it initially indicated.’
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-capitol-arrests-justice-idUSKBN2BG30C
      
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      May 17, 2021 2:04pm
      - Batman
        
        Meanwhile, here is the full list of serious charges and wanted list of MAGA criminals.
        
        https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence
        
        While you hide behind the low hanging fruit who were arrested and booked for their minor roles, the more serious stuff takes time. Plenty of people are still awaiting trial.
        
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        May 17, 2021 5:01pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Infiltrated by BLM and ANTIFA Mike. They said they would do it. Trump offered security but Pelosi refused to agree.
    You know this to be true
    
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    May 17, 2021 5:36pm
    - RiP NZ
      
      https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/16/video-shows-u-s-capitol-police-gave-protesters-ok-to-enter/
      
      Now cue Flatman stating lack of credibility from any source except his,
      
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      May 17, 2021 7:03pm
  - KevO'Brien
    
    Were you there?
    What about the overthrow that occurred on the night of 3 Nov? Computer MAC addresses from both ends of the cyber attack are strongly indicative of wrong doing.
    The unravelling is going to be fascinating.
    
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    May 17, 2021 5:58pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Quite correct Kev.
      And when it happens, Mike, Batman, MCos and many many others will sort of disappear into their computer screens.
      Batman was making a list about Trumpsters, what happened Batman?
      There is something big happening on Memorial Day USA. You look it up
      
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      May 17, 2021 7:11pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Is that the latest date for Q supporters to believe Trump will be reinstated as Prez?
        
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        May 17, 2021 9:06pm
- Rusty
  
  America is going down the drain fast as the beacon of light to the free world.
  
  In the next few years America will sell its soul to the globalist elites and will cease to be a superpower.
  
  Biden will eventually go and Marxist Kamala Harris will be president of a socialist USA.
  
  There are tens of millions of Americans who wont stand for this — a second American civil war –who knows?
  
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  May 17, 2021 1:13pm
slightlyrighty

http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/

Chris Trotter is not happy with Labour’s separatist agenda, and calls them out hard on it!
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May 17, 2021 11:38am
- kiwikidsnz
  
  Chris also shames RNZ today,
  https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/110416/state-broadcaster-rigorously-excluding-any-and-all-voices-dissenting-official-line#comments
  
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  May 17, 2021 1:49pm
  - hilaryt
    
    Another terrific piece from him on the ‘Mulliganisation’ of RNZ.
    
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    May 17, 2021 5:31pm
  - Jack5
    
    A poor performance by Kathryn Ryan.
    
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    May 17, 2021 9:21pm
- rangitoto
  
  Cindy says its 2021. Apartheid is ok now.
  
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  May 17, 2021 2:57pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  Poor old Chris, 40 years of ploughing his socialist furrow and when the end comes into view it’s not what he expected
  
  I do rejoice at a sinner repented but it’s long past time he, and others of a similar bent, took some responsibility for where we have come to rather than merely disclaiming it
  
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  May 17, 2021 5:27pm
- chukar
  
  Well done Chris ,we need more of this!
  
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  May 17, 2021 6:54pm
oldfella

What are we doing to our kids? Nothing good!
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/eating-disorders-emerging-among-children-as-young-as-10-20210513-p57rr3.html
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May 17, 2021 12:23pm
- MCos
  
  I have all my old school photos from the 50s & 60s. There are a couple of notable things. The size of the classes that were just under fifty in a couple & nobody was overweight.
  Didn’t stop kids being bullied for being ‘fat’ mind you.
  The difference back then was most food was cooked from first principles by the mothers and consisted of boiled vegetables and some sort of meat & not huge portions.
  Takeaways are a killer. Didn’t exist back then except for fish n chips.
  Interestingly my daughter in law taught at a flash Auckland private girls’ school for awhile. She said the peer pressure kept all the kids from getting rotund. Plus the affluence of the parents meant they bought ready made meals from Farro not KFC.
  
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  May 17, 2021 3:42pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

Bret Weinstein and Heather Heyring go into detail on the institutional response to clear efficacy and safety of Ivermectin against Covid:
https://youtu.be/vxTODvTNHlw?t=1600

Listening to this you can’t really see current situation as anything but evidence of truly evil behaviour at highest levels of medical institutional establishment; active campaigning by big pharma against safe, cheap and effective treatments. An interesting point they make is that legally if treatments with well established safety were available for Covid then emergency experimental vaccines would (by law) not be allowed, so maybe the effort to take-down things like ivermectin has been driven by desire to foist vaccines with very limited testing and significant safety issues (and enormous profit margins) on public.
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May 17, 2021 12:29pm
- septic skeptic
  
  There is certainly a pattern. Chloroquine, Vitamin D, Ivermectin and the Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine are all lower cost alternatives and have got some very bad press over the past year, compared to Pfizer and Moderna.
  
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  May 17, 2021 4:15pm
Maggie Pie

OMG!!

Sooo wish the sound was working on this 😀 😀 😀

https://twitter.com/Bogsdollox2/status/1184920319070556161
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May 17, 2021 12:50pm
- Inandout
  
  Maggie, looks like Joe going to bed upstairs with Psaki handling his predicament.
  
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  May 17, 2021 1:35pm
- Apropos of the Wet Snow
  
  Being pissed as a chook was the only thing that saved him from serious injury. Talk about growing old disgracefully.
  
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  May 17, 2021 2:01pm
- [email protected]
  
  I feel sorry for this old couple. You have to wonder what could possibly make them both drink so much as to lose that much control.
  
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  May 17, 2021 5:10pm
  - chukar
    
    Our Government!
    
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    May 17, 2021 6:56pm
Swifty

I’ve sat in Council meetings where Cathy Casey has just ripped into council staff and they have had to just sit there and take it.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300309408/auckland-council-staff-face-bullying-from-politicians-aggression-from-public–review

Ugly. Ugly. Ugly incidents.
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May 17, 2021 4:24pm
Maggy Wassilieff

TVNZ and RNZ finally twigging that folks have tuned out and turned them off.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/young-poorly-served-by-public-media
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May 17, 2021 4:41pm
- WaveyDavey
  
  What a load of bollocks.
  
  “…research on merging RNZ and TVNZ shows more people now have access to Netflix than to radio.”
  
  If you have a device that can access Netflix then you have a device that can access radio.
  
  Just an excuse for more Yoof Programming which da yoof will scroll past
  
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  May 17, 2021 5:20pm
  - Swifty
    
    Yeah, I didn’t understand that point.
    
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    May 17, 2021 6:50pm
Tom Barker

How’s all that Maori bashing working out for you, Judith?
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May 17, 2021 6:56pm
- Keith White
  
  How’s that racist tongue-bathing working out for you, Tommo?
  
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  May 17, 2021 9:54pm
Maggie Pie

BREAKING…

Just in case there are any ‘Kia QL Sportage’ (2016 – 21) owners here, my partner understands they have just issued a recall…. as due to an electrical fault they could burst into flames 🙁

Do not park undercover. Take it to your dealer TOMORROW!

Thank us later.
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May 17, 2021 7:16pm
Martin Williams

Eagle Brewing going down. You can’t say, “Maori should be in prison” and get away with it.

David Gaughan = scumbag. Fact.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/125154620/iwi-leader-urges-mori-and-kaiapoi-residents-to-boycott-pub-at-centre-of-racism-scandal
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May 17, 2021 7:26pm
- Jack5
  
  Tau featured in Kiwblog yesterday putting a spin on Ngai Tahu’s bid to takeover South Island’s water supplies.
  
  Why doesn’t the tribe buy the brewery and bring it under Ngai Tahu’s group registration as a charity? Beats paying company tax.
  
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