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mikenmildagain

Reflecting on eighty years since the US marines arrived in Wellington.
I see there are some different dates marking the 80 years. The plaque at Queen’s Wharf gives ‘May 1942’, while the NZ official history gives 13 June 1942 as the date of arrival in Wellington when the transport Wakefield brought the 5th Marine Regiment. The Kāpiti U.S. Marines Trust will open a new ‘interpretation site’ at Paekakariki on 21 June, complementing the existing memorial at McKays Crossing.
The camps at Paekakariki and McKays Crossing were built very rapidly for their first American occupants. The 5th Marines were only there for a few weeks before the landing at Guadalcanal.
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June 14, 2022 8:04am
- Inandout
  
  m&m, the yanks were extremely adept at building quality camp buildings and the various ones scattered throughout NZ were testimony to that. I know the ones at Sylvia Park in Auckland were used by various government departments until they were demolished for the shopping mall. They had asbestos corrugated roofing and cladding and probably native timber framing. It just illustrates how quickly things can be done if choking bureaucracy is kept at arm’s length.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:18am
  - MCōs
    
    I was at Twizel when the MOW built the town.
    I suppose you could say that was similar.
    Just prefabricated a whole lot a standard houses down in Timaru and trucked them to the site.
    They were allocated depending on one’s status and number of kids. If more kids came along another bedroom might be added to the houses.
    Place had everything except old people, back then.
    
    Max Smith who was the Project Engineer, had the biggest house in his own street.
    Barrel of laughs that guy. He broke up some rugby function one Friday because everyone was working the next day.
    He loved rowing and used the MOW resources to build the facility at Lake Ruataniwha which got him in all sorts of shit & he was sacked.
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:10pm
  - curry4me
    
    You are correct. On September 1st 1939, the government began a crash building program for barracks at Burnham Camp.
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:48pm
- Simon
  
  “Reflecting on eighty years since the US marines arrived in Wellington.”
  
  The unions called a dock workers strike, while the US Marines were preparing to transport vital supplies for the attack at Guadalcanal. As the dock workers refused to work it caused the US military to leave behind fuel, ammunition & rations.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:19am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Not an area with which I am familiar. The official history notes that US work paid very highly, and the waterfront was controlled centrally through the war with comparatively few stoppages and an improved rate of turning around ships.
    
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    June 14, 2022 2:34pm
  - tui47
    
    I read about this is a book about WW2. Not sure of the accuracy but I heard to the day they called the dock workers strike it was raining and the workers did not want to get wet loading the US ships. The Marines were forced to load the ships themselves before heading off (many to die) in the mud, disease and Japanese fire of the Pacific.
    
    There was also the case after the war ended where for some reason a ship of surviving NZ soldiers were stuck off the coast of New Brighton because they were not allowed to dock.
    
    I grew up anti union not helped by frequent trips on the Cook Strait Ferry being delayed due to strike action.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:23pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Maybe the May arrival was the advance section to set up for when the main force arrived – just guessing.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:14am
- lastmanstanding
  
  The Yanks wanted to build a 4 lane concrete highway from Auckland to Wellington to transport stuff from Camp Bunn at Sylvia Park to Trentham and return . NZ Government said NO. So the Pollies back then were as short sighted as they are now.
  
  My late Mum said the Yanks were very nice boys but a bit forward for her. Old Mum was a bit cautious not so some of her girl friends who welcomed the Yanks gifts ( all of them).
  
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  June 14, 2022 12:56pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    I’ve heard or read of this before – but think it is probably a myth.
    
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    June 14, 2022 2:22pm
    - wilderbeast
      
      You’re very selective about what you choose to believe and what you dismiss as myth milky
      
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      June 14, 2022 6:29pm
      - Mike
        
        I’m open to be convinced.
        
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        June 14, 2022 7:25pm
  - tui47
    
    Granny loved the Marines – she was married and had a child but while Grandad was Army Camp she attended many parties in Wadestown along with her 14 year sister. I have the photographs of them both in the arms of partying Marines. The Yanks of course looked so much more exciting than the boring Kiwi boys. After the war her younger sister left NZ to chase a Yank (as it was described by my Grandfather). She married one and died in California last year aged 96.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:29pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Uptick sonny. Americans in NZ is why I was born – parents met in Auckland, Sylvia Park stores. The were both drivers, moving Americans around Auckland in those awefull pug nose Bedford trucks.
  
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  June 14, 2022 4:51pm
Warren

Heather Du Plessis Allen has got this rightwhen it comes to Trevor Mallard.
Should Trevor Mallard be rewarded for being a bad boy, well the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern confirmed yesterday he is resigning the Speakers Job and Parliament in August 2022 and will get a Diplomatic Postingin Europe.
Everyone knows he wants the Dublin Posting so maybe he will get the very thing he has wanted for so many years.
So should he though?
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/heather-du-plessis-allan-drive/opinion/heather-du-plessis-allan-should-trevor-mallard-get-rewarded-for-being-a-bad-boy/
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June 14, 2022 8:04am
- cmm
  
  No, you and HDPA have it wrong.
  He doesn’t get the gong for being a speaker.
  He’ll get the gong for years of many decades selfless service to the people of Aotearoa.
  
  … or something like that…
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:56am
  - bjools
    
    He’ll get the gong for years of many decades selfish service to the people of the Labour party.
    
    There….fixed it.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:02am
  - Warren
    
    cmm : can you please point out where it was mentioned that he would get a gong , no doubt he will be awarded a Knighthood at sometime in the near future as People high up in Politics say the Speaker normally is awarded one after they retire. But the post I posted never insinuated that in any way.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:21am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    That’s not correct cmm – it is convention that former PM’s and Speakers of the House receive a knighthood/damehood. Of course Helen Clark is the exception to the rule, having changed the Honours system to eliminate titular honours.
    
    Interestingly, that didn’t stop her long-term Deputy, the late Sir Michael Cullen accepting a knighthood when it was offered to him.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:42am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    Lower Hutt sheeple continuously voted for him.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:07pm
- Tricati
  
  It seems Labour rewards the lowest common denominator across many fields, and rewarding Mallard has taken that to a new low.
  Those professionals in Foreign Affairs, who actually work for the betterment of NZ and NZer’s overseas, must be pissed at this appointment and in disbelief.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:57am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    The rewarding of the most undeserving has been going on for a while now. As an example, how the hell did Blair get a knighthood ffs?
    All that is happening is the whole system is being completely debased.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:25am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Ha. The people in the Foreign Affairs and Trade have sold this country to China over the last 30 years. Promoted cuddling up to a tyrannical regime that sees us as vassals in the making. And have moved politicians from Labour and National down that track assiduously
    
    They deserve nothing.. as does Trev the Muss. A posting to the Islands should be the best he is offered… Nuie or the Cooks, though they deserve much, much better
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:14am
    - Jack5
      
      The Auckland portion of the National Party was also into the China embrace, with enthusiasm.
      
      Think of Maurice Williamson, demoted by John Key for intervening with the police on behalf of National Party donor Donghua Liu over domestic violence allegations.
      
      Think of Jian Yang, National MP who had worked for the Chinese Security Service before coming to NZ.
      
      Not just National. Speculation flourished when Labour’s Raymond Huo stepped down about the same time.
      
      Then there were the local body politicians with free “junket” trips to China.
      
      Inquiry into China influence in NZ:
      
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300054428/parliamentary-inquiry-hears-evidence-of-chinese-political-interference-in-new-zealand-political-system
      
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      June 14, 2022 12:07pm
- Caine9
  
  It’s not a difficult one to see. He had to go, but wouldn’t unless he got what he wanted. Simple, call it political bribery or blackmail, it’s got to be one or the other.
  He had become too much of a liability so had to be moved.
  This is the price of removing the risk of an insider turning.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:26am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    The price in question being footed by the tax payer, not Jacinda.
    
    Must be nice to outsource payment of your bills.
    
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    June 14, 2022 7:58pm
- Positan
  
  I wondered if the “Europe Posting had not been specified because, with his reputation, Mallard would, in all probability, be unacceptable to some European countries. Maybe Ireland, which would now be well aware of Mallard’s appalling character, has communicated its lack of enthusiasm to Ardern. In the present scheme of things, somewhere near the frontline in Ukraine, with the belligerence it’s facing, would be a far more appropriate destination.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:32am
- Scott
  
  Well maybe the prime minister was happy with the job Mallard did? She did the kindness while he did the not so kindness.
  
  It’s all very well getting mad at Mallard. But isn’t it all a classic deflection from the person at the top who is actually running the show?
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:47am
- curry4me
  
  He should be out on his ear. David Seymour said an incoming National led government should recall him.
  
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  June 14, 2022 12:50pm
  - Paulus
    
    No, do not call him back – leave him there indefinitely.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:19pm
Simon

Dangerous and useless.
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June 14, 2022 8:09am
Bridgenag

https://youtu.be/VXNEB5sOkzY

Carbon credits from OZ
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June 14, 2022 8:10am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Gone. Censored?
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:52am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  I think I got it now – zero carbon credits from OZ
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:58am
Frank the tank

If Luxon was worth feeding he would have indicated he will immediately recall Mallard from whatever positing he is going to and also oppose any knighthood in a strongly worded release.

The fact that he isn’t suggests Mallard will get away scot free and this gig is supported by the National Party.

In other news why do we still need a minister for covid? Hasn’t everyone else had the 2-day sniffles as well?
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June 14, 2022 8:13am
- cmm
  
  Remember that politics is like professional wrestling. They only thump eachother in the ring. When they’re behind scenes they’re drinking buddies.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:57am
  - Rodion Raskolnikov
    
    It’s a manufactured divide that keeps the idiots discussing irrelevancies and prevents any significant change in direction. There is so much uniformity in approach, particularly when it comes to the “global challenges,” that it makes little substantive difference who has a majority. It used to matter, but the difference has become negligible. The same is the case in the UK and the US, which is why, particularly in the latter case, any disruptive outsiders and agents for change are met with combined resistance.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:40am
    - wilderbeast
      
      Very well put, chilling in its accuracy. We’re all slaves to the Labour / National political elite and decisions made in Davos, The Hague etc.
      
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      June 14, 2022 6:34pm
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Some of them are. I don’t think too many Nats get on the large with Trevor Mallard though.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:43am
    - Fuzzysnuggleduck
      
      Even when people mistake him for being human outside of work, he was actually boiling with anger below the surface it seems: https://twitter.com/franks_lawyer/status/1521028757510709249
      Remember not long ago how he told Stephen Franks about a forthcoming trespass notice, when they met by chance outside of parliament? Franks thought he was joking (hahah! Of course you are not such an arsehole……Wait……You ARE such an arsehole?)
      
      {quote}”I thought he was joking when he first told me (he was at a neighbouring table in a restaurant). I laughed. When I saw he was angry I said I looked forward to service (of the trespass notice)”
      
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      June 14, 2022 12:59pm
  - wilderbeast
    
    Sadly true
    
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    June 14, 2022 6:32pm
- bjools
  
  Why waste your time.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:03am
- riffer
  
  Don’t be ridiculous. Start with that bipartisan crap and before you know it we’ll be in the same shit as the USA, with each party focussed on the wholesale destruction of the other, and nothing being done.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:08am
  - Frank the tank
    
    So you reward poor behaviour? Tim Grosser (a very able diplomat) was recalled but no to Trev because it might upset some on the left.
    
    Labourlite indeed
    
    P.s. I challenge you to detail one positive constructive thing this government has done since 2017.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:35am
  - Paulus
    
    At least the US political scene is now a laugh daily as Nancy tries to get Trump arrested – he is still a threat to the Dems.
    But watching Amber and her ex Johnny is even better – sex in the single city has nothing like this and more laughs that in Congress as lie after lie is told to confuse everybody.
    Wat a Country where only money counts along with corrupt legal processes – remember Judges are voted for so have vested interest all the time.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:06am
- Hebe123
  
  I’m. It sure if I have had it yet. Had a 2 day sniffle in January and been going to bars and cafes like there’s no tomorrow but to no avail.
  
  I was told that the virus was sneaky and would come find me (unvaxxed) and yet here I am working my ass of and… nothing.
  
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  June 14, 2022 5:48pm
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    Ha! Know that feeling!
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:01pm
Maggy Wassilieff

It seems folks have been quick to depart NZ’s shores.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/128947550/borders-open-more-people-leaving-new-zealand-than-entering

Probably more are preparing to leave for better employment and housing prospects

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2022/06/foreign-employers-will-be-picking-off-nz-workers-over-the-coming-year-economist-warns.html

And if we want to tempt folks back to NZ, surely our authorities can get rid of the nonsense around pre-departure entry tests:

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/travel/2022/06/covid-19-kiwi-traveller-says-he-was-denied-entry-from-australia-because-pre-departure-test-was-a-minute-early.html
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June 14, 2022 8:14am
- Benedict Yu
  
  That pre departure test is nuts. What is the rationale?
  
  And do not under estimate the extent to which the mask requirements in New Zealand will deter tourists.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:19am
  - k1w1
    
    I was told by the Traveller Declaration rep yesterday that the requirements will be “phased out”. What that means in practice is that they will first do away with the 24-48h pre-departure mandatory monitored covid test (rumoured to be eo July but not official). Unfortunately it still means you have to fill in the copious forms and await your QR code before boarding. All in the name of control, I can only imagine, as there is no other reasonable reason (esp if NZ citizens don’t need to be vaxxed). How they will manage this for thousands of cruise ship passengers god only knows.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:57am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      GBP 50 in the UK for a supervised RAT. What a waste of money.
      
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      June 14, 2022 8:03pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        A$45 here in the Gold Coast was the cheapest I could find, and that was BYO test kit. The whole thing took about 5 minutes, very pleasant and helpful pharmacist who laughed when I asked if we had to wait the 15 minutes for the test to work.
        
        She took one look at it when the C line was present, saw nothing in the T line and threw it in the bin. Nice little earner, not that I blame her – other places charged $120!
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:59pm
- artemisia
  
  Simon Wallace, Chief Executive of the NZ Aged Care Assoc says ‘nursing shortages in aged care reaching over 1,100 and the loss of more than 800 rest home beds so far and more every day’.
  
  Already some rest homes have closed their doors, more to come. Hospitals are the next step for many elderly.
  
  Nurses are leaving for better pay, some to DHBs. Thousands of vacancies across the ditch.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:41am
  - a3kidlady
    
    Wallace undersells the crisis that is Aged Care. Staffing is the tip of the iceberg.
    
    There are 40,000 Aged Care beds in NZ compared to 14,000 public hospital beds, every 1% of Aged Care beds that are closed means a 3% increase in occupancy at Public Hospitals. Think about that.
    
    Public Hospitals get paid 5 times more per day to look after a patient than Aged Care is funded. So for every bed closed that means a patient moves to Public Hospital it costs us 5 times more for that patient. Again think about that
    
    Govt pretends that Aged Care is awash with money from the corporates – reality is that 70% of aged care beds are provided by Not for Profits
    
    LAst but by no means least Aged Care is predicted to need 57,000 beds by 2035 – where are these beds going to come from when even the Corporates have now stopped building due to a lack of funding and available staff.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:23am
    - MCōs
      
      I have a brother in law in an aged care facility. It’s not a hospital.
      I checked the annual report of the organization that runs the facility plus provide other services.
      Half their funding comes from the taxpayer, a bit less than half from fees and the balance from donations.
      That’s about all I know except that which I’ve been told about what proportion of the fees are expected from individual residents.
      Are these essentially private facilities subsidized because if they weren’t a whole public system would have to be created at far greater cost?
      
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      June 14, 2022 3:00pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Don’t forget those mandated out of their jobs by a petty and spiteful government.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:28am
    - Ross Campbell
      
      I was personally quite sceptical about the value of the mandates when they were introduced but after seeing them operate I came to the conclusion they had value outside vaccination status.
      The place I work introduced them and it had the effect of forcing most of the whinging, difficult and generally neurotic staff to leave and the resulting workplace environment was much more settled and productive afterwards.
      Bit of spring cleaning is good in any company.
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:13am
      - Rodion Raskolnikov
        
        Now it’s just the irrational, compliant drones left.
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:48am
      - Fuzzysnuggleduck
        
        That would be great, if true.
        But there are vaccine-boost-to-the-max nutters who are just as shrill about their truth and fearful about the opposite side.
        
        Clot-shot terror and Covidiots are just different sides of the same coin when you take religious-level conviction and obsession with what others do to the same level.
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:17pm
      - Hebe123
        
        I got mandated out of my contract role – and then called by one of the GMs a few months later apologising.
        My sister lost her maths teaching job. Asked to come back.
        My partner mandated out of his contract roles (public and private). Asked him back as soon as they were able.
        Now I know a sample of 3 isn’t statistically significant but I don’t have the energy to list all the others that were let go then begged to return. Not a single person I know wasn’t asked to return as soon as they were allowed.
        
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        June 14, 2022 5:54pm
      - Loddenthinks
        
        They had a good spring clean and yet you’re still there? Is it a not-for-profit providing work for the retarded, by chance?
        
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        June 15, 2022 12:01am
  - rockape
    
    Many nurse coming to NZ fail the English test to the standard required by DHBs. So they take lower pay in rest homes to give them a year to improve and practice their language skills. Once that is sorted they move to the better pay of DHBs. If you want to stop that then resthomes need to pay to retain their staff.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:46am
    - artemisia
      
      Quite so rockape, and may have something to do with this …. Not forgetting the older folk and their families impacted.
      
      The New Zealand Aged Care Association (NZACA) has rejected the Government’s annual funding increase of 1.2 percent as an insult to an industry losing nurses and rest home beds, displacing thousands of older people – many into crowded public hospitals.
      
      Simon Wallace, Chief Executive of the NZACA says Health New Zealand’s offer in the annual Age-Related Residential Care (ARRC) Service Agreement is substantially less than the 9.4 percent that the Ministry of Health and District Health Boards had initially agreed was warranted
      
      https://www.nzdoctor.co.nz/article/undoctored/aged-care-rejects-health-new-zealands-funding-increase
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:40am
- cmm
  
  Yesterday one of the billboards in Ferrymeade had an advertisement encouraging people to move to Western Australia for opportunities, lifestyle etc.
  
  I wonder how many will take them up?
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:44am
  - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
    
    None…Sheeple want to live in Aotearoa under co-governance model enjoying the benefits of 3 Waters and Cindy’s brilliant leadership.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:10pm
- Ra Henare
  
  Maggy. The Stuff article you limk to…continues the Stuff tradition….LOts of mis information.
  
  The guy didnt have to have a test within 48 hours blah blah(PCR test) he could have had a Rat test within the previous 24 hours. Yep the test that gives you a result while you wait(about 15-30 minutes from walk in to walk out with certificate).
  
  Why NZ still has the pre boarding test requirement si mainly because MOH are involved. Over the last 2 years they have proved themselves hopeless.
  
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  June 14, 2022 12:41pm
Ruahine

I see where Willie Jackson is now the Minister for Propaganda.
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June 14, 2022 8:17am
- skyblue
  
  Willie Gobbels
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:53am
- Janabelle
  
  I think this appointment will cause lots of problems for Jacinda and all the rest of us. Isn’t he involved in other media, Radio Waatea and Maori TV – isn’t that a conflict of interest.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:28am
- leoj
  
  Get ready for both TV1 and TV 3 News to be in maori for the first 15 minutes then english for 15 minutes.
  
  Mahuta and the all-powerful maori caucus will back him.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:36am
  - graham
    
    I hope so … that might just be the tipping point necessary to persuade SWMBO to stop watching.
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:43pm
    - Loddenthinks
      
      Why would you want her to stop watching something that YOU don’t like? You don’t have to watch it but why shouldn’t she, if she wants to?
      
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      June 15, 2022 12:05am
- Positan
  
  Given that Maori are but 12% of the population; (Tariana Turia’s figure, not Willie Jackson’s pretence of 17%) and, given that Maori TV and Maori Radio were set up especially for those who wanted it; and, given that the greater percentage of the population is fed up to the gills with the unwanted and un-asked-for infliction of “te Red” we’re forced to endure on Radio and TV; and given that our educational achievements in core subjects like mastery of English has been failing for as long as it has – I think that promoting Jackson to Minister of Broadcasting is comparable to the sort of questionable insanity that saw Mallard made Speaker of the House.
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:09am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  Wily Willie. Another round of bribes for MSM getting ready.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:11pm
bco90

New Zealand has surpassed Japan in Covid deaths per capita, giving Japan, WHO NEVER LOCKED DOWN, the lowest death rate in the whole OECD.

https://twitter.com/GearoidReidy/status/1535971558430502912?s=20&t=DeQ9Vr91HB6Ypb6FBGparQ
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June 14, 2022 8:19am
- Opie
  
  Funny that.
  
  And guess what, inflation in Japan sitting at 2.5%.
  
  They simply won’t allow their country to be fucked over by virtue signaling muppets…
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:14am
  - tui47
    
    The Japanese also refused to allow discrimination based on vaccine mandates.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:46pm
    - Observer of Life
      
      Who openly advised their population that there is a chance of myo/pericarditis from the jab.
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:19pm
- Opie
  
  Not to mention, our cases per million are now higher than Sweden who according the zero covid zealots did it all wrong…
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:26am
- mawm
  
  How anybody can even begin to pretend that all the non-therapeutic measures adopted by our government helped save lives is beyond me. What did save lives was our geography and Omicron.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:58am
Maggy Wassilieff

Hipkins hasn’t been a great success as Minister of Education.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/469059/teacher-hiring-a-nightmare-with-not-enough-new-graduates-overseas-staff

Anyone could have foreseen that NZ would be needing teachers when lockdowns ended.
I wonder how many unvaxxed teachers decided not to return to classes.

I doubt that Hipkins will be able to bring our crime “spike” to a timely end.
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June 14, 2022 8:19am
- mikenmildagain
  
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  I doubt that Maggy has ever had any regard for any labour party minister.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:21am
  - peterwn
    
    She has more common sense than all the Labour Ministers put together.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:23am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      With all due respect to Maggy, that’s not a particularly high bar.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:45am
  - Nickc2
    
    Who among that bunch of non-achievers do you think are worth the overinflated salary and perks we taxpayers are required to foot the bill for?
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:32am
    - Bobba Fret
      
      They say if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. But we pay well (in fact too well) and look what we have got?
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:20am
  - amospicton
    
    Do you have any comment on the issue Maggy raised MM? It’s disappointing to see you default to ad hominem deflections when I’m sure many on here would like to see the case for the defense.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:37am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Let’s be clear mikenmildagain…
    
    you haven’t a bloody clue about what I think, what I believe, what I know, and who I am.
    
    But try Arnold Nordmeyer for a starter.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:45am
    - mikenmildagain
      
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      Oh, I think you have left lots of clues over the years.
      Arnold Nordmeyer was indeed an underrated politician. The labour party suffered from Walter Nash hanging on too long to the leadership when no longer capable and Nordmeyer could have been much more effective.
      But I was thinking more of your habit of attacking other prominent labour party figures like Savage and Fraser and lauding flakes like Mike Moore.
      
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      June 14, 2022 8:51am
      - Libertarians are right
        
        You know Mike Moore was a Labour minister right? So was Roger Douglas by the way.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:01am
      - Maggy Wassilieff
        
        I think you have left lots of clues over the years.
        
        Then you’re not very clever at decoding the bleeding obvious.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:03am
  - Libertarians are right
    
    This is what I’m talking about. It’s entirely rational to dislike all current Labour MPs because they are all provably useless, yet to people without a clue you look like you’re just taking an arbitrary counter position. Labour’s greatest strength is their utter incompetence. No-one expects people that useless to get so high up in anything so National, Act and their supporters must be overstating or barking at passing cars right?
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:00am
    - Paulus
      
      Remember Labour MPs are chosen by the Labour Party under the guidence of Claire Szabo the Party President and her Union based cohorts.
      No Dr Ardern and her mob !
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:24pm
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Another, thinly disguised attack by Mikey on Maggie. Seriously – make a counter argument, which we all know you are capable of, instead sniping at Maggie W constantly.
    
    What has Hipkins done to improve educational outcomes for the pupils of our Primary and Scondary schools? anything he has done to placate or help the Union doesn’t count. His focus and every Minister of Educations focus should be on the pupils learning outcomes and achievements
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:18am
- Blog-aholic
  
  When you have to be culturally indoctrinated why would you bother?
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:25am
  - OlderChas
    
    My thoughts exactly Blog-aholic
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:05am
- Ruawai
  
  National need to swing to target education as well to show failures there especially staffing and truancy.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:31am
  - rockape
    
    Many nurse coming to NZ fail the English test to the standard required by DHBs. So they take lower pay in rest homes to give them a year to improve and practice their language skills. Once that is sorted they move to the better pay of DHBs. If you want to stop that then resthomes need to pay to retain their staff.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:48am
- curry4me
  
  I know of one who won’t be returning to the profession. And they are homeschooling. So, a small double whammy for ‘public education’. Is it just me; or is ‘public’ just an alternative spelling for garbage?
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:00pm
Maggie Pie

Personally, we can’t see Hippie being much different in the role of Police Minister than Potato was.
After all, both he and Cindy are lifetime comrades in arms, both having been part of the International-Union-of-Socialist-Youth.

And this from his Maiden Speech….

“I, too, am ambitious for New Zealand. But the prosperity I dream of won’t be measured by our cars or our holiday homes. It will be measured by the strength of our compassion towards one another…”

Well that counts out everyone we know for a start 🙁
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- mikenmildagain
  
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  Is ‘holiday home’ the standard term for your second car in Otahuhu?
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:22am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    You’re playing with the big-girls here milkey….
    and you’re likely to get your sorry arse kicked!
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:25am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Burn baby, burn!
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:47am
- David Garrett
  
  Are you really so superficial that you measure your success in life, and your standing among your peers, by whose got the latest or most expensive car, and the desirability of your McMansion at “the beach” or “the lake”?
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:23am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    It’s not just that, David, it’s that Maggie’s prosperity is entirely imaginary, dreamed up during her night-fill shifts at Fresh Choice.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:25am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      perhaps Maggie is not Maggie and it’s Mark from Gore. On this site anyone could be anyone. It just so happens Maggie is vocal about her lifestyle which may or may not be true.
      
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      June 14, 2022 8:35am
    - Ruawai
      
      MMA did you hear the whoosh as the satire flew over your head!
      
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      June 14, 2022 8:35am
    - amospicton
      
      Working with the ‘deplorables’ at Fresh Choice is that MM? There, in a nutshell, is the impending defeat of the left – their ill-disguised contempt for those they are supposed to represent.
      
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      June 14, 2022 8:41am
      - mikenmildagain
        
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        I think you will find that I merely reflect back to Maggie her attitude of faux contempt for anyone who doesn’t frequent her imaginary tennis club and bach, etc.
        As Harry Knots pointed out, on Kiwiblog anyone can be anyone, except those unwise enough to post comments under their own names.
        
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        June 14, 2022 8:54am
      - Swifty
        
        To be fair, while Mike regularly sneers at the hoi polloi, he does recognise their usefulness in bringing him cheap and plentiful goods and services.
        
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        June 14, 2022 8:57am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        P00r old milkey has never been quite the same since AOR outed him last year as being an old-queen living in Hutt Valley.
        
        LOL!!
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:11am
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Mike! What is wrong with posting under your own name, I do? I am not worried or scared of anyone who wants to seek me out and do whatever.
        You really are in a great trolling mood today. You remind me of those annoying little shits in the school classroom, and when the teacher comes in you are a fucking crawler.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:15am
      - David Garrett
        
        OK, I’ll play Milky…why are the 5% or so of us who are not afraid to put our names to our views “unwise”? You include our gracious host, who is most certainly David Farrar, formerly of central Wellington, now a country gent like me.
        
        Whom or what should I fear by doing so – the Double Killer perhaps? I’ve told him where to find me many times; he’s never turned up, and he almost certainly never will. I’m not a 17 year old girl, and he well knows the reception he would get out here. (Even though he is apparently muchtaller than me, as he loves to point out endlessly.)
        
        Back in the day, the quality papers required real names and contact details on their letters to the editor; only rags like the Sunday News published letters from “ratepayer” or “mother of four”.
        
        Blogs are in their infancy; I am confident they will eventually go the same way. Certain of them already only publish the opinions of those who are prepared to stand by them publicly.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:16am
      - David Garrett
        
        Maggie: “An old queen living in the Hutt Valley”…Oh I do like that! I’d only figured out he was a retired former Chief Pencil Sharpener at the Ministry of God knows what.
        
        What is AOR??
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:22am
      - graham
        
        David: I think AOR most likely refers to commenter All_on_Red.
        
        https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/06/general_debate_14_june_2022.html/comment-page-1#comment-3193715
        
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        June 14, 2022 10:35am
      - Liberty
        
        Steve Otto
        The reason why some posters dont use a real name is that the wokes are not as tolerant
        as the more enlightened contributors to this blog.
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:30am
    - Humai
      
      ‘Sfunny. I’ve always thought of the “Maggie Pie” entity as some sort of SEO project by DPF or one of his KB “staffers”.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:01am
  - bjools
    
    A definition given to me.
    STATUS:
    Buying stuff that you neither want or cannot afford, to impress people you don’t like.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:08am
- Benedict Yu
  
  “But the prosperity I dream of won’t be measured by our cars or our holiday homes. ”
  
  Too funny. I have personally witnessed Green and Labour Party supporters at Wellington social functions gleefully comparing the values of their homes, rental properties and holiday homes.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:26am
  - Ian Boag
    
    gleefully comparing the values of their homes, rental properties and holiday homes.
    
    No Nat/ACT supporter would be so crass 🙂
    
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    June 14, 2022 7:20pm
    - wilderbeast
      
      National and Act supporters don’t make careers out of bagging capitalism and private accumulation of wealth
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:18pm
- Wayne Mapp
  
  Maggie,
  
  You know perfectly well that International Socialist Youth is the youth wing of Labour parties and Social Democratic parties throughout the western world. I think you will find a large number of PM’s and cabinet members in small western countries, especially the Nordics, have exactly the same backgrounds.
  
  From what I can see, the government and it’s leading members, are social democrats.
  
  And hasn’t Jacinda recently bought a beach house in Tairua?
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:34am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Oh, don’t tell me it’s right on the coast….
    
    We’re experiencing continued coastal erosion around our open East Coast beaches, with Whangamata, Pauanui, Tairua, Whangapoua, Mercury Bay, Cooks Beach among the notable spots.
    https://www.tcdc.govt.nz/Your-Council/Council-Projects/Current-Projects/Coastal-Management/
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:51am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Baaa! Sounds like the Obamas at Martha’s Vineyard when sea levels are rising – hypoctrites.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:19am
    - G152
      
      So they dont believe their own BS then
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:32am
  - Frank the tank
    
    If our Glorious Leader has indeed purchased a holiday house in Tairua it will need to be discrete. Don’t think she’ll be much welcomed in a ‘blue’ township particularly over the summer months.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:54am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      She will just have the street closed off – done it before
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:20am
      - Observer of Life
        
        Friend in Tairua confirms Comrade Ardern has a bach at Tairua and pisses off her street when she’s in residents because the others on the street are questioned on their coming and goings. She’s disliked immensely.
        
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        June 14, 2022 10:28pm
    - mawm
      
      The permanents are very much Jacinda idolisers. She saved them from the dirty Aucklanders.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:11am
    - Sir Cullen's Sidekick
      
      Tairua voted for Labour in 2020. They are no more blue township tank bro. For that matter, none of the towns in NZ are.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:15pm
      - Frank the tank
        
        We are in 2022 SCS not 2020 – your girlfriend is in Big Trouble in Little Zimbabwe and the fisherman ain’t no Kurt Russell.
        
        Even your number 2 Ginny will likely be rinsed by the NINO that wears the skipper’s hat in 2023.
        
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        June 14, 2022 2:06pm
  - alex Masterley
    
    I think it was the PM’s father who purchased in Tairua not the PM herself.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:15am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Daddy has had a gutsful of keeping people locked in homes on Tokelau?
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:21am
      - Paulus
        
        Daddy appears to have been replaced in his job in the Tokelaus quietly.
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:10am
    - mawm
      
      No she bought it. She did look a $2 million “bach” there initially but settled for one on the harbour instead.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:12am
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I had to look up “social democrat” in the dictionary.
    
    “1 : a political movement advocating a gradual and peaceful transition from capitalism to socialism by democratic means.
    
    2 : a democratic welfare state that incorporates both capitalist and socialist practices.”
    
    Apologies if I misread you. But you make “social democrat” sound kind of benign. If our current government fits either definition 1 or 2, we should be deeply worried.
    
    Back to that international ‘socialist’ organisation.
    
    The current President is a socialist from Venezuela. It should go without saying that New Zealand leaders, youth or not, have nothing good to learn from such folk.
    
    http://iusy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/CV-JESUS-TAPIA-.pdf
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:43am
    - mawm
      
      Whether they call themselves progressive/socialists/communists depends on how much lipstick they apply to the pig.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:16am
  - JimBobJoe
    
    Nothing to do with the Comintern Wayne? SUper Jacinda was the head of a youth organisation that was a not so subtle Communist organisation.
    
    Your defense of that organisation shows exactly why the National Party is such a wishy washy nothing of a Party now – it condones socialism and socialism master Communism. You can’t even say it doesn’t, given Key and Nationals kowtowing to the CCP.
    
    Frankly people like Wayne Mapp should have stayed in the Labour Parry – it is there natural home, instead they have white anted National and Centre Right
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:38am
    - Wayne Mapp
      
      You are right. International Socialist Youth had nothing to do with the Comintern.
      
      Labour parties have historically been pretty staunchly anti-communist. Given your background knowledge, it is deliberate disinformation to pretend otherwise.
      
      Recent example. Sweden and Finland, both with social democrat governments, supported by the Greens and others (both also have female PM’s) have just applied to join NATO. Hardly the action of communists.
      
      Incidentally it was Margaret Thatcher standing up to the USSR in the 1980’s that caused me to join National.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:17pm
  - leoj
    
    Nonsense. The plethora of references to “comrade” in Cindy’s speech suggests that the organisation is firmly in the communist camp.
    
    Building wealth and acquiring assets mean less dependency on government, something all lefty politicians hate.
    
    They don’t mind acquiring assets themselves, however. Bloody hypocrites!
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:51am
  - Justitia
    
    The International Union of Socialist Youth was founded as part of the Second International in 1907 and shares its origins with the Communist International. It is led by a Presidium, just like they had in the former Soviet Union, and a “Control Commission”. A Redder shade of Pink than you imagine Comrade Mapp. Perfect training for young, aspiring totalitarians.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:52am
- Swifty
  
  Hipkins didn’t show much compassion when he smashed the hopes and dreams of charter school parents so that the unions and teachers could maintain their power and vested interest in the education system.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:36am
  - mikenmildagain
    
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    I’m surprised that someone as astute as you, Swifty, still believes the ‘charter schools’ were an actual attempt to change anything, as opposed to a ACT part stunt.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:58am
    - Swifty
      
      Er, no.
      
      I have not yet reached the stage of being totally jaded and remain hopeful that one day NZers will demand better than a government controlled education system which fails so many of our young.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:07am
      - Swifty
        
        Speaking of which….
        
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/why-literacy-rates-are-falling-in-nz-schools/YTQJAYXYV4SG6XTJFWIRI5E3CA/
        
        This is what we get in return for the billions we ‘invest’ in education annually?
        
        Bloody shameful.
        
        And any attempt whatsoever to reform, innovate or provide competition (which the left welcome in so many other areas of our economy) are shot down by the entrenched incumbents who simultaneously demand more and more pay and better conditions.
        
        Our education system has become fat, lazy and, worst of all, incompetent – and all the while there is no accountability.
        
        We are mugs to put up with this.
        
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        June 14, 2022 10:24am
    - Libertarians are right
      
      Sorry Mike, your bigotry is showing.
      Many Libertarians do actually care about people, just because their belief on what’s important and how to help is different to yours doesn’t make them wrong or uncaring.
      
      Government handouts aren’t the only way to help poor people and in fact the primary strength of giving people “free stuff” is that they have to keep voting for you to keep giving them it.
      
      Now, many on the Left do actually think they’re helping but personally, I think they are making things worse. This is why I’m against the Left – they hurt the people they want to help.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:08am
    - RightNow
      
      I said the same about Labour’s plans to eradicate child poverty. Oh look I was right (again).
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:09am
    - RoboRob
      
      Yeah because the status qou is working so well right Mike? Poor outcomes and attendance, how do we fix that, I know lets pay teachers more. How has that worked out over the years?
      
      Charter schools did pretty well, some with great success others more mixed, considering they were in their infancy. They were never really given a chance.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:27am
      - Ian Boag
        
        they were in their infancy. They were never really given a chance.
        
        I guess you would have to ask the govt of the day why the sop they threw ACT was on such a small scale ….
        
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        June 14, 2022 7:24pm
    - amospicton
      
      Right, because our current education system is so good and fits every student so well that alternatives aren’t needed. Note to those on the left – the education system is designed to produce well balanced, capable, contributing members of society. It is not a teachers’ welfare department, nor a youth indoctrination service.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:53am
    - Weinerpoop
      
      Most of the charter schools were working well, the idea should have been expanded. You created a curriculum that worked for certain kids to educate them and it also meant they weren’t being disruptive in main stream schools.
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:18am
    - Don Beckett
      
      Well, the results showed that – particularly Maori & PI youth – that the charter schools certainly achieved a wholt lot more than the public school system.
      Or maybe you’ve got another snyde comment about that?
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:38am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Indeed Don. Several of the Charter Schools were achieving outstanding success with young people who had disengaged from the school system. I’m not sure if any of the schools in which Willie Jackson had an interest were included in that number however.
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:58am
- Thought Criminal
  
  It doesn’t matter who they make police minister while labour deliberately empty the prisons, refuse to chase criminals, repeal 3 strikes, refuse loads of tough new anti crim legislation and give millions to the gangs for no good reason at all.
  
  Whoever becomes police minister will be humiliated.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:35am
  - Don Beckett
    
    Yep – Cuddles Coster has to go.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:38am
Maggy Wassilieff

It is interesting who wasn’t affected by Jacinda’s wee shuffle.

Surely Kelvin Davis as a senior Cabinet Minister could have picked up a bit of the load and helped out Nanaia with some o/s travel.

And isn’t it time that Dr Liz Craig was given a piece of the Health portfolio, and does anyone know what
Rino Tirikatene has been doing in Parliament for the last 11 years?
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June 14, 2022 8:26am
- Harry Knuts
  
  i have a feeling Taxinda won’t touch anyone from the Maori Caucus. She needs them more than they need her.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:36am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Exactly- and she supports Ethno-Nationalism anyway.
    Pushing it here is probably going to be her gateway to a new job.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:16am
- David Garrett
  
  Maggy: Mr (Ms? who would know?) Tirikatene follows a long line of token Maori MP’s in the Labour Party. I recall one from my time, always immaculately dressed, who hardly ever spoke (the only Labour MP who I never heard speak was another token, Muslim MP Ashraf Choudray). He was so uneventful I genuinely cannot remember his name. Pleasant enough chap one on one; it was just a mystery what he was doing there.
  
  Nanaia Mahuta was another one; until this term just another brown presence on the Labour benches who seemed never to say or do anything. That’s what you get when you engage in tokenism.
  
  And to be even handed, the Nats are also guilty of tokenism. In my intake was a tall Sikh whose name I also genuinely can’t recall. In the 11 years since I left active politics, he has made zero impression. I assume he’s still there – apparently he made much of his supposed influence among his fellow adherents and countrymen.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:40am
  - Swifty
    
    Bakshi?
    
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanwaljit_Singh_Bakshi
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:46am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    I think it says everything you need to know that when Labour took office in 2017, Tirikatene and Louisa Wall were the only Labour MP’s not to be appointed to any additional role.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:53am
  - Maggy Wassilieff
    
    Kanwalijit Bakshi…..Not high enough on Nats List to return in the 2020 election.
    
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    June 14, 2022 8:57am
    - David Garrett
      
      Maggy: Yes, that’s the fellow. An acquaintance who runs an Indian restaurant out by the airport told me he was making maximum use of his supposed influence – apparently he was forever saying “I am MP now” – while clearly, by his list placing, doing fuck all.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:02am
      - mikenmildagain
        
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        At the other end of the scale, I was struck by reading Peter McCardle’s autobiography by how much work he could do for National, NZ First and Act over 25 years and still achieve nothing.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:09am
- Sir Cullen's Sidekick
  
  “does anyone know what Rino Tirikatene has been doing in Parliament for the last 11 years?” – polishing the leather seats with his big …… don’t dream anything nasty bros, I meant with this big polishing rag.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:17pm
pdm

Maggy – just remembering to turn up at Parliament is probably `work overload’ for Klueless Kelvin.

It is very unreasonable of you to expect him to earn his excessive salary on top of that.
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June 14, 2022 8:32am
Ross Campbell

Was driving up Frankton Road the other day following this old banger of a Bedford van/truck before finally it turned at the roundabout and I saw it was the Counterspin Media travelling circus.Not sure why they would bring it to Queenstown as the intelligence of people there is far to high to swallow the type of garbage they pump out but never the less I have to give credit where it is due.At least the vehicle accurately represented their “media company”, shabby.
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June 14, 2022 8:36am
- mikenmildagain
  
  There are enough credulous morons in every community for the Counterspin crowd to think it worth their while. Not to mention their heartfelt belief that they are bringing the ‘truth’ to the uninformed – like the Mormons or Jehovah’s.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:12am
- ClanMcleod
  
  Ross, indeed. You and milky and the other sycophants who worship Ardern tend to be impressed by shiny, fake shit that has zero substance. Like the polished turd masquerading as the leader of a country.
  Substance over style every time.
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:10am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    No surprise you are an admirer of Counterspin Media.
    Instead of banging away on here everyday why don’t you join the travelling circus as I’m sure there are still seats on the bus for qualified clowns.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:54am
    - Lenticular
      
      Counterspin is complete junk, but honestly, its shabbiness beats the Spinoff and other such leftist leeches shiny bullshit that my taxes got siphoned off for.
      
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      June 14, 2022 9:43pm
  - MCōs
    
    I don’t know anyone who ‘worships’ the current PM or any of the the previous ones for that matter.
    I’ve never gone into a house and seen a politician’s photo hanging on the wall like people did with Churchill & Savage.
    All I ever hear is the nastiness from the sour, destructive critics of whoever is currently running the show.
    If there’s a change of government next year the ether will have people like you with their knives out for the new lot. Maybe the same people.
    
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    June 14, 2022 5:49pm
peterwn

Local body candidates will no longer need to put their address on posters, leaflets, etc. Candidates for major parties could get round it by specifying the party office address.
This is like the daft UK requirement where all company directors had their dates of birth given on a government agency web site. It played right into the hands of identity thieves and fraudsters. For example call centre employees of a major insurance company asked for clients’ dates of birth to confirm identity and pranksters and fraudsters caused much mischief by cancelling policies, etc.
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June 14, 2022 8:37am
Maggie Pie

And what about departing Immigration Minister Kris Faafoi sitting on his fat ass doing nothing for the last 12 months?

You can only imagine the smirk on his face, when he hands over the files for convicted drug smuggler Karel Scroubek, and Chinese murder suspect Kyung Yup Kim to Cindy acolyte Michael Wood.
I think we all know what direction they’ll be heading. LOL!!
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June 14, 2022 8:38am
- Tony Stuart
  
  On the basis of his performance to date (Auckland bike bridge, light rail to the airport) I have very little confidence in Wood being able to make any meaningful change in immigration. And that’s just going to set New Zealand even further back, given our reliance on migrants to fill skill shortages across the board.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:56am
  - Harry Knuts
    
    Woods is great at spending money on no results, shuffling papers and standing with big oversized zeros for photo ops. He is a big fat zero for results.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:10am
    - Paulus
      
      I believe Woods may be in Oslo at an Electric Car conference, if not currently, soon.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:30pm
  - RoboRob
    
    They don’t expect any of the changed MPs to make a significant improvement in their new portfolios.
    
    This is just a process of putting people better able to deal with the media in charge of failed portfolios. With the added benefit of the new MP being able so say ‘I don’t know, I wasn’t the MP at that time’ when challenged on any historic issue.
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:31am
  - Frank the tank
    
    The Hallensteins Shop Assistant strikes me as a particularly nasty ideologue that will be pushing this immigration re-set very hard.
    
    In other words don’t expect any foreign workers to come into the country for blue collar jobs. This government seem hell bent on wage inflation through scarcity of supply.
    
    At least with the brown teddy bear he didn’t give 2 rats. Wood will actively drive the garbage through
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:59am
  - pdm
    
    Does anyone know if people can still buy `penis shaped’ lollies?
    
    If they are gone that may well be Woods’ major achievement – ever!!!
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:14am
- Paulus
  
  Kris will get a top job in RNZ/TVNZ once he has had a holiday – assume allready arranged before departure by Cindy.
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:14am
  - RoboRob
    
    Hadn’t thought about it but that makes perfect sense. I did wonder why he would be so keen to give up a high paying job, where he could have waited another year refusing to do interviews or answer questions.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:19pm
slightlyrighty

Despite all attempts by Ardern to paint it otherwise, it’s hard to see this ‘Minor’ reshuffle as anything less than a political win for National.

In one afternoon, Ardern has moved on Mallard and Williams, despite only last week expressing confidence in both in the face of mounting criticism.

While those wounds may be cauterized for now, National is not short of other under-performing ministers to focus on.

Are you there, Nanaia?
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June 14, 2022 8:40am
- Cassandra
  
  Pretty minor win, though. Useless people still in Cabinet, fat salary, limos etc. If Poto represents Labour’s talent then they’re in a bad state, but we knew that.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:04am
- Brian McDonald
  
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  The win is for Labour. Labour finally understands that it needs to consolidate strongly and make it apparent, nothing like an uppercut to get attention.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:36am
  - David Garrett
    
    …nothing like an uppercut to get attention.
    
    Oh I don’t know Big Bri…a shot from a .22 rifle has worked well for you in the past…
    
    (Yes, you are MUCH taller than me)
    
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    June 14, 2022 9:47am
  - Frank the tank
    
    LOL. Next you’ll argue Custer won the battle of little Bighorn.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:01am
  - leoj
    
    Geez. What world do YOU live in?
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:56am
    - David Garrett
      
      leoj: What world does he live in? (Google Brian Ronald McDonald if you don’t already know his history)
      
      Quite simply, McDonald lives in the world inhabited by psychopaths; he has absolutely no conscience about what he has done – killed two people, one of them a 17 year old girl waiting for a taxi. Psychopaths typically think they are smarter than the rest of us, and find it amusing to con and pull the wool over the eyes of the rest of us. We are all lesser beings – they are smarter than us, and society’s rules don’t apply to them.
      
      McDonald is an extremely dangerous man; it would not surprise me at all if he kills again. For a third homicide he might just get LWOP…but I wouldn’t bet on it.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:50am
      - Batman
        
        Garrett you need to dial back your obsession or the Mods will need to be more active about managing it.
        
        There’s no need to bring it up constantly as a way to attack Brian for his past and discredit any views he has on other topics.
        
        You should understand how that works.
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:07pm
      - RoboRob
        
        Got to agree with Batman on this one David. Also concerned for your safety after that comment 🙂
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:21pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Robo: Thanks for your concern…fear not…I don’t. The day I am frightened of that man is the day I check into an old men’s home…and that’s a way off yet.
        
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        June 14, 2022 9:04pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Will Paul Eagle force a by-election?

https://wellington.scoop.co.nz/?p=145140
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June 14, 2022 8:59am
- Libertarians are right
  
  From what I’ve heard, Paul Eagle is the kind of guy who’s matey matey with you if he thinks you can give him something but wouldn’t look twice at you otherwise. The very worst kind of politician.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:41am
- peterwn
  
  He will probably hold both jobs simultaneously and collect double pay for a year. I think a former Wellington Mayor (long since deceased) did that many years ago.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:23am
  - curry4me
    
    And don’t forget the late Jim Anderton. In 2010, he ran for Mayor in Christchurch. He wasn’t about to quit as an MP. That earned him the nickname The Trough Master General.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:19pm
- krazykiwi
  
  The Eagle has landed, and in Rongotai’s case the aforementioned Eagle landed with a dull thud back in 2017, and has excelled at achieving absolutely nothing of value ever since. The guys emptying rubbish bins are of more value to his electorate.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:57pm
  - peterwn
    
    And eastern suburbs people will still keep blindly voting Labour despite serious traffic congestion they suffer.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:17pm
Maggie Pie

What a total Labor suck-hole that guy Clint V Smith is!
Have you seen his tweets? Honestly…..
someone needs to tell him idolising a politician is like believing the Stripper really likes you.

LOL!!
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June 14, 2022 9:02am
- Blog-aholic
  
  CLInt who?
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:04am
103PapPap

Who can remember when Willie Jackson and john Tamihere got sacked from ??? Radio station over the Roastbusters scandal? What was it actually for?
Any irony that Willie is now Minister of Broadcasting?
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June 14, 2022 9:09am
- RoboRob
  
  I remember well.
  
  Oh the irony of Willie being a minister of anything. Willie has a big mouth, Tamihere had the brains of that pair. Willie always talked about looking after the little man and Tamihere only wanting to look after his fat cat mates. Willie has gone on to further feather his nest while Tamihere runs community groups to help people. Typical Lefty.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:25pm
  - Paulus
    
    See Tamihere is new President of the Maori Party- might be an interesting election next year for Maori.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:32pm
Maggy Wassilieff

Oh dear,

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300612530/its-violating-bp-petrol-station-ramraided-by-toyota-aqua-in-aucklands-botany

Didn’t those ramraiders realise we have a new Min of Police now..and he will tell you naughty boys off if he catches you.
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June 14, 2022 9:09am
- Harry Knuts
  
  police arrested 24yr old with gang connections and searched property with 200+ stolen vapes.
  i mentioned a couple of months ago gangs were behind recruiting the youth for these ram-raids. with the struggles of trying to import now due to lack of overseas flights to NZ perhaps the gangs are turning to robbing local businesses for their new revenue stream? just a thought.. not exactly big bucks compared to drugs but they will take anything at this stage.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:15am
- Ruawai
  
  Maggy the ram raids won’t stop with the new Minister of Police but the reporting of the raids will stop with Willie Jackson as Minister of Broadcasting.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:41am
- Frank the tank
  
  At least the Chipster will have entertaining press conferences and get the shit beaten out of him by the Hosk and HDPA.
  
  I’ll give the Chipster one thing – he does front up and not blame sexism and racism for his own failings.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:03am
- alloytoo
  
  Perhaps he could send the Truacy team after them, they probably fall in their jurisdiction.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:48am
Surely Knott

Did Poto Williams lose focus and in what way? Surely she was just at the evidence end of the lefts ideology. The ideology that we are not foremost a united nation with a common history, but individual groups of people who are continually told they are victims or perpetrators against another group of NZers. This messaging is designed to create division and discontent and it does. An ideology that says rich people aren’t wealthy because they earned it. These beliefs deliberately promte an idea that someone else owes you. An ideology that believes reducing the prison population would solve social problems. An ideology that believed giving free lunches and tampons in school would encourage school attendance. An ideology that believed locking up society would solve an annual respiratory disease but didn’t consider the social friction. I’m pretty sure Smith and Caughey would have video footage of their glass store front. Why is only the police clean up being shown.
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June 14, 2022 9:14am
- Paulus
  
  No, Poto was simply not up to the job, with a lack of experience in the real world, on which she could see.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:34pm
Nickc2

Willy Jackson appointed Minister of Propaganda (Broadcasting).
If you ever thought Broadcasting under the current Govt was biased, you can now add racist to the cauldron of Maori Language infestation of the Broadcasting frequency spectrum.
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June 14, 2022 9:19am
Sparrow

Who is Clint V Smith? I doubt the general public could name more than 6 MPs. Never hear anything from our Labour electorate MP. See her occasionally standing behind Cindy at some function or the other. What do these list MPs actually do?
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June 14, 2022 9:25am
Maggie Pie

TWITTER TRENDING

Tell you something else that’s really turned my tummy this morning…to read where Oscar winning actor Kevin Spacey is facing charges of sexual-assault against young males. One including ‘penetrative sex’. Good God!

Thort he was fab in ‘House-of-Cards’…..it shows you just never know 🙁

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1536408251830521857
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June 14, 2022 9:27am
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  I thought he was brilliant in “Beyond the sea”
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:36am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Never seen that one Maggz.
    
    What you might like… is this just in from a twitter bestie 😛
    
    ‘Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein were watching TV.
    Harvey asks, “Hey Kev, you wanna rent a DVD tonight?”
    Kevin thinks for a moment… “Yeah” he says, “let’s get Aladdin”
    Harvey replies, “Calm down Kev, you’re in enough shit already”
    
    LOL!!!!
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:00am
    - curry4me
      
      Cool, I had to read that twice to get the punch line.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:23pm
  - Inandout
    
    ‘Beyond the Sea Men’?
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:27am
  - All_on_Red
    
    Very good in American Beauty too. Iirc he won an Oscar.
    His impressions of famous people are remarkably accurate as well.
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:01pm
    - alloytoo
      
      He also played Lex Luthor in Superman Returns.
      
      That movie was intended as a extension of Superman (1978) and Superman II with Brandon Routh standing in for the great Christopher Reeves and Spacey reprising a role played by Gene Hackman.
      
      It’s fair to say that Spacey is an excellent thespian, and potentially rotten human being?
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:23pm
- Frank the tank
  
  https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/06/13/christina-aguilera-dons-bejeweled-phallus-mimes-masturbation-at-all-ages-l-a-pride-performance/
  
  Maybe Christina could help out Kev?
  
  Between you and me Mags Britney has aged better.
  
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  June 14, 2022 10:07am
cmm

I saw an interesting Tshirt on an American VLOG:

#FullTanksMatter

Make diesel $1.99 again.
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June 14, 2022 9:45am
- Colville
  
  I saw a bloke in a BGM tee-shirt in the weekend…
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guns_Matter
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:54am
  - curry4me
    
    Wikipedia don’t seem too enthusiastic about BGM. That must mean they’re with the good guys.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:25pm
- David Garrett
  
  cmm: And that’s 1.99 a gallon not a litre…When I did my 30,000 mile odyssey across the US last century I could fill by camper van for $5.20…I have have a pic in my album showing regular gas for sale at 55 cents a gallon….Happy days.
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:56am
  - cmm
    
    Correct. That was US1.99 per gallon (even if it is the short US gallon of only 3.8 litres).
    
    I remember in 2000 paying around 80c/litre for diesel in NZ. It is now around 2.90. That’s an average of almost 6% per year increase over the last 22 years.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:06am
    - Hebe123
      
      Diesel was under $1 per litre in chch in Dec 2020.
      
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      June 14, 2022 6:40pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    In the USA today average petrol (gas) price is 5 USD per US gallon. That is $1.32 per litre or $NZ 2.11 at current exchange rates.
    
    So cheap compared to NZ. But I guess if you have a pick up truck with an 80 litre tank and do lots of miles it is painful.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:10am
    - cmm
      
      Many low-wage people in USA commute very long distances. I had a chat with one guy who travelled 80 miles (130km) each way each day for work – though he car pooled with a buddy. He didn’t consider himself an extreme commuter
      
      With a reasonably thirsty vehicle, they’d be paying US$20-25 each for fuel each day. That’s a huge chunk out of their earnings.
      
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      June 14, 2022 10:24am
      - rockape
        
        No different here. My wife has a 35 km commute each way to the hospital. So 70 km round trip That’s 7 litres a day at $3.26 a litre that makes $22.82 a day. And no, being a nurse working shifts. Public transport isn’t available. In fact there is no public transport between Wakefield and Nelson !
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:20am
      - curry4me
        
        That story sounds familiar. A friend in California has a weekly fuel bill of $180 and likely rising.
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:28pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      It is getting tougher for our Alaskan friends, but what do they expect when he drives a 5.7 litre petrol Dodge Ram? She has a Ford something V6.
      I have never seen so many Dodge Rams before.
      
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      June 14, 2022 11:10am
      - Don Beckett
        
        I’ve dodged a ram a couple of times when I was a kid visiting my uncle’s farm. 😆
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:27am
      - Don Beckett
        
        OK – gimme me hat & coat.
        
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        June 14, 2022 11:27am
      - Colville
        
        Don…I would be more worried about the ewe you caught up with!
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:52pm
  - peterwn
    
    Like the science professor asking for examples of things that were not possible years ago. Putting $5 worth of petrol into a VW Beetle was one response.
    
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    June 14, 2022 10:26am
  - Paulus
    
    When I started driving in the UK petrol was 4 gallons for a quid !
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:15am
    - greybeard
      
      In the mid to late 1960s I used to get 3.1 gallons of 83 octane for 10 shillings / $1.00 for my 1953 Vauxhall Velox.
      
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      June 14, 2022 12:29pm
Surely Knott

The Herald is concerned about new skin whitening products. The professor says “notions of beauty are linked with the coloniser”.

A few thoughts. As a white woman having a tan and darker skin is more beautiful? The most famous beauties of our time Gigi and Bella Hadid and the Kardashians are of middle eastern decent. White women use bronzer, wear hair extensions and dye our sparse eyebrows darker to replicate the beauty of cultures with darker thicker hair. People with red hair often who have the fairest skin are the but of jokes.

If whiteness is linked to the coloniser then why do so many Asian societies (eg Japan) that were never colonised lighten their skin.

Maori in NZ means anyone with one Maori ancestor so you can be Maori and have white skin.

When white women copy other cultures skin tones or hair styles they are criticised for appropriating.

It’s all very confusing. But once again white people are terrible colonisers we are reminded. I wonder if this is why there is escalating violence towards them.

https://twitter.com/nzherald/status/1536464418049073152
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June 14, 2022 10:18am
- curry4me
  
  In Korea, darker skin is associated with manual labour in the paddy fields. One sees women there in summer using umbrellas for their original porpose of keeping the sun off. Staying dry during monsoon showers is a bonus.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:31pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  why do so many Asian societies (eg Japan) that were never colonised lighten their skin.
  
  Dark skin on females (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) indicated that they were outdoors people… i.e. field workers/peasants.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:25pm
- cmm
  
  Skin lightners were, and maybe still are, very popular in South Africa. Many of these caused terrible blotching patterns and other side effects in some individuals.
  My father was one of few Zulu-speaking lawyers in the area we lived and 90% or more of his clients were Zulus. One of his major lines was helping Zulu women sue the companies making this stuff.
  These companies stayed in business, so it must have still been extremely profitable even though they were occasionally sued.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:40pm
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2022/06/uae-saudi-arabia-kuwait-ban-disney-pixar-film-lightyear-over-same-sex-relationship-characters.html

Waiting for Disney, it’s stars and woke CEO and Board to condemn these countries in 1…2….3……
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June 14, 2022 10:24am
Maggie Pie

UPDATED

A series of random pictures….

https://twitter-thread.com/t/1535182072083812353
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June 14, 2022 10:33am
- Frank the tank
  
  Can someone confirm Mr Mahuta is in fact Mrs Mahuta’s first cousin?
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:18am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    If you’re talking about William Gannin Ormsby, then yes, he is. But that’s not illegal, however Appalachian it sounds.
    
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    June 14, 2022 11:37am
    - Harry Knuts
      
      i’ll invoke the aged old saying – just cause it’s not illegal doesn’t mean it’s right.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:46pm
    - Frank the tank
      
      No words necessary…..
      
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      June 14, 2022 2:19pm
cmm

Stuff is lamenting lower literacy rates in Aotearoa, especially that NZ is plummeting down the PISA tables.

Why could this be? They say maybe it’s due to increased usage of digital technology.

Naah, bullshit. Digital uptake has happened everywhere. If everyone is impacted, then our relative performance should be unaffected.

They they go into a long ramble about “neuro-diversity”, including dyslexia. Again, bullshit. Dyslexia impacts people globally. This does not impact NZ’s slide down the tables.

Perhaps the real reason is that the current education system in NZ encourages children to find an excuse and give up, rather than tackling their challenges and overcoming them.

I am dyslexic. It makes life harder. It means I must read things I write three times to check I wrote what I intended. I can’t read numbers longer than 4 digits unless I scan them manually with a finger.

If I had been encouraged to embrace my neuro-diversity and give up, I would not have achieved a tenth of what I have.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/why-literacy-rates-are-falling-in-nz-schools/YTQJAYXYV4SG6XTJFWIRI5E3CA/
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June 14, 2022 10:41am
- Philview
  
  What we now hear about the extreme numbers of children that don’t go to school then easy to form the impression that we are doomed as a future cohesive society.
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:21am
- UrbanNeocolonialist
  
  Control of education policy and practises fell into the hands of left wing academics, and was modified to service the preferences of mostly female left wing teachers who hate accountability, and prefer touchy-feely-artsy topics where results are mostly unmeasurable.
  
  Modern teaching is a low status profession staffed by 3rd raters who lacked talent to make it in economically valuable fields (unlike many of the smart teachers of my youth), most of them ran screaming from STEM subjects all through their own educations and have since carried that baggage with them into their teaching. They have little interest in economically relevant subjects or pedagogical approaches that suit boys better.
  Away from top decile schools that get the teaching talent and where parents will compensate for systemic failings, NZ’s education system is 3rd rate, 25-40% not attending school regularly and leaving year 13 kids years behind their international peers in subjects that matter. The educational system of last century produced far better results than the teacher-captured mess of today.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:11pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Too many kids are missing an adult who gives a damn. I’ve met a number of dyslexic people who like cmm have made a success of their lives. And a lot more who were not dyslexic who failed to do so.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:57pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Kangaroo committee on Jan 6th.
https://rumble.com/v18beu1-they-altered-evidence-and-lied-jim-jordan-exposes-jan-6-committee.html?
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June 14, 2022 10:57am
- Frank the tank
  
  Steve – the bulk of America don’t give 2 fucks. Suggest we don’t either.
  
  At this stage it looks like the Dems and Rinos want to convict Trump of being a sore loser and a bad person.
  
  If that is the case they should have started with Hillary.
  
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  June 14, 2022 11:21am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    They want to prevent Trump from running in 2024 because he will win in a bigger landslide than 2016.
    Also there will be less cheating by the Dems, because they have been exposed. You won’t hear that is the leftist media though.
    #Trump 2024, that is what it says on my flag outside.
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:56pm
    - Batman
      
      Lol you’re in for a rough few weeks Steve, based off the video testimonials of a number of Trump loyalists.
      
      Yes Trump is a sore loser, and there is nothing illegal about that. The difference is when you push bullshit claims and attempt to usurp democracy for the sake of your own ego.
      
      Gym Jordan’s weak attempt at counter programming belongs in a primary school playground.
      
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      June 14, 2022 1:17pm
      - alloytoo
        
        Liberal law professor Alan Dershowitz has labeled these proceeding a kangaroo court with no credibility.
        
        In reality it’s a desperate exercise in propaganda to avoid the carnage that the polls are predicting in the mid-terms.
        
        Like Labour’s attacks on Luxon, it means they have nothing of their own anyone wants to buy.
        
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        June 14, 2022 1:34pm
      - All_on_Red
        
        Batman, being the Authoritarian Fascist that he is, is ok about evidence being changed because it’s hurting the ‘other side’.
        What a silly little boy
        Btw, I see replays of ‘Young Sheldon’ are out rating the hearings.
        No one is watching it.
        Lol
        
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        June 14, 2022 2:04pm
      - Frank the tank
        
        And when it goes the same way as 2 impeachments and even woke Garland won’t touch it what then Bat? It’s not even the lead story of CNN.
        
        Meanwhile even supposedly safe govern ships in places like New Mexico and Minnesota are suddenly in play and the old coot’s approval rating is sub 40%.
        
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        June 14, 2022 2:28pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        I just knew you would turn up soon Batman. It’s not the Trump thing that caught your attention, it is me mentioning Gym Jordan! Laugh all you want.
        Still got that list of Trump supporters on KB? Don’t you go and lose it OK?
        
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        June 14, 2022 3:13pm
      - Steve Otto(North Shore)
        
        Btw Batman, have you seen the number of people at the rallies? The “We The People” are right behind Trump. People, that is what counts Batman.
        
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        June 14, 2022 3:22pm
- MCōs
  
  Gym Jordan exposed what??
  
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  June 14, 2022 4:11pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Watch again without Labour bias!!!
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:55pm
jon

With McAnulty, becoming Associate Local Govt minister, he will have to promote the unpopular Three Waters agenda. This will hardly go down well in his largely rural electorate, which could well see him losing his seat and being too *pale* to secure a high placement on the Labour party list, in order to return to Parliament.
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June 14, 2022 11:05am
- Blog-aholic
  
  Will McNutly get rid of his ute now?
  
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  June 14, 2022 12:12pm
  - Ehlana
    
    His is essential. Like the one belonging to the father of the Prime Minister’s daughter.
    
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    June 14, 2022 2:13pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      How rude of you to point out that the Ardern family are mostly freeloaders. How ride to point out that first fish makes TV programs funder mostly by the Govt! How rude////
      
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      June 14, 2022 5:02pm
- Gravelroad
  
  Have just been to the Taxpayers Union roadshow meeting here protesting against the Three Waters.
  Three electeds from the local Council spoke up (including the Mayor) and they did not mince their words about the dangers of this socialist experiment – all quite outspoken for an election year.
  No sprinklers, loud music or river of filth – just concerned citizens hoping for a miracle to stop Ms Mahuta’s self serving plans for robbing and disenfranchising the local residents and ratepayers.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:43pm
  - surfing
    
    Good one, keep up the good work!
    
    It looks as if Mahuta is getting her own way, and I hope labour gets smashed to bits in the next election!
    
    If this were truly about infrastructure, they’d drop the iwi clipping of the ticket.
    
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    June 14, 2022 3:01pm
  - Hebe123
    
    Snap – I was there too
    
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    June 14, 2022 6:53pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump – Biden compilation.
https://rumble.com/v18bgx0-trump-predicts-everything-about-biden-in-devastating-compilation.html?
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June 14, 2022 12:02pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Can’t take any questions from the Press?
  Same in NZ, the Press can only ask scripted questions, the Press also have the same answers that Jaspinda’s writers provide.
  Anyone ask an unscripted question? “I rufude that, next question”
  
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  June 14, 2022 3:29pm
  - MCōs
    
    Have you sent your man Trump a birthday present?
    He’s probably got a gift registry going with a choice of cash amounts.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:09pm
Nickc2

Oh shit, here we go!
Richard Marles (Aust Minister of Defence) has sided with China on the One China Policy. This’ll piss Joe Biden off because he’s stated that America will go to war if there’s an advance on Taiwan.
What’s our PM, Foreign Minister, and Minister of Defence got to say about the siding of our one and only Allie?
MARLES – We have a One China policy. We do not support Taiwanese independence. We don’t support any unilateral action on either side of the Taiwan Strait, which would change the status quo. We firmly have a One China policy and we don’t support Taiwanese independence.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/06/richard-marles-supports-communist-china-over-democratic-taiwan.html
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June 14, 2022 12:09pm
- oldfella
  
  Nick, something wrong with that link.
  
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  June 14, 2022 12:22pm
  - Nickc2
    
    It works for me. However, here it is again.
    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2022/06/richard-marles-supports-communist-china-over-democratic-taiwan.html
    
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    June 14, 2022 12:54pm
- Benedict Yu
  
  I disagree that such a statement is controversial. The USA has a ‘One China’ policy. So does New Zealand. That is not inconsistent with the USA commitment to defend Taiwan in the event of an invasion by China.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:47pm
  - mikenmildagain
    
    He is reading michaelsmithnews as if it were a source of useful information or insight.
    
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    June 14, 2022 2:48pm
    - Nickc2
      
      I didn’t invent the statement and neither did the owner of the blog from whence it came. If you have a dispute with it, take it up with the originator (the Aust Minister of Defence).
      
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      June 14, 2022 7:33pm
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  The joy of a Labor government.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:49pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    It only took 4 days to start LOL
    
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    June 14, 2022 3:30pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Biden and past presidents (other than Trump) supported a OneChina policy.
  
  The Aussies are trending towards recession like us – suddenly the Chinese buying their stuff will become important.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:30pm
  - MCōs
    
    The Chinese buying Australian stuff (& ours) has been important for a long time.
    During the last big recession it protected both our countries from the worst of the downturn.
    The previous Australian administration became quite strident with their rhetoric re China, and this one may be the same, I don’t know, but there’s no way they’ll introduce trade sanctions on big ticket items.
    BTW
    The NZ dairy industry won’t thank any government that winds up the criticism to such an extent China halts import of their stuff.
    
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    June 14, 2022 4:02pm
    - Hebe123
      
      I don’t think “any government” cares what nz farmers think.
      
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      June 14, 2022 6:55pm
Maggie Pie

Even BLOOMBERG is reporting on Trev’s axing…. 😀

https://twitter.com/business/status/1536217584164544512
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June 14, 2022 12:38pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  He resigned, I heard it on play school TV1 Ewes
  
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  June 14, 2022 3:32pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1daS-eV5A

How the Democrats BUY Votes with YOUR Money.

Democrats give African Americans just enough to keep them on the plantation. [13:48]
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June 14, 2022 12:46pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Any different from here with labour and Maori?
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:31pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    There certainly is a “plantation” in R. T. Rower.
    
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    June 14, 2022 3:50pm
  - curry4me
    
    No its the same with Labour and Maori.
    
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    June 14, 2022 6:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Did not view you link until now. Down at the mall I was thinking ‘I bet that link from curry man is about Candace’
  Yep, it was, and thankyou. Do you have her Book “Blackout”? The book covers many things, and the last chapter is brilliant. I suggest you acquire one.
  
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  June 14, 2022 3:55pm
  - curry4me
    
    Yes it was. I’d like to see her in Trumps cabinet running HEW in 2025.
    
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    June 14, 2022 6:41pm
Ehlana

Politik today describes the big losers in the Cabinet reshuffle as being “Pasifika”. It quotes Poto Williams, three years ago, saying of her promotion to Minister outside cabinet, “I know that my own Cook Island community and the wider Pacific community are excited to know that their desires and aspirations are actually going to be expressed at the top table. It’s very cool.” Faafoi said it showed the Government’s commitment to diversity and to the Pacific community.”

“excited to know their desires and aspirations are actually going to be expressed”. Are there really desires and aspirations that people have only by reason of belonging to a specific racial group? Does anyone have any examples?

(Continue reading at https://www.politik.co.nz/the-big-losers-in-the-cabinet-reshuffle/ | Politik )
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June 14, 2022 12:46pm
- alloytoo
  
  I wouldn’t label Faafoi as a “loser” in this instance, he’s been wanting out for years.
  
  Williams however has failed the Pacific community in South Auckland so badly she shouldn’t even show her face there.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:36pm
  - MCōs
    
    Poto Williams is a Christchurch MP.
    
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    June 14, 2022 3:47pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    He is yet another trougher. Thing is, who is going to employ him? He will just end up in another Govt Quango – doing nothing as usual.
    
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    June 14, 2022 3:58pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ISEJDgGWk

NSW and QLD asked to conserve power use.

Several suburbs across Sydney’s northern beaches suffered power outages overnight due to coal and gas shortages spurred by rising prices and the cold weather. Further supply reserve shortfalls are currently forecast in Queensland and NSW over the coming days. In response, residents are being asked to conserve power usage to prevent further blackouts. [Couldn’t happen here in Newzuela huh? 1:26]
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June 14, 2022 12:46pm
- rockape
  
  Maybe they will have to “ carry coals to Newcastle” after all .
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:13pm
  - curry4me
    
    It might be a good idea to import a few container loads of deisel generators if you live there.
    
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    June 14, 2022 1:39pm
- Niz
  
  Correction. The problem is not a shortage of FF generation – it’s simply not enough ‘investment’ in the cheapest and most reliable generation -> wind and solar.
  /s
  This situation is caused by idiotic demonisation of fossil fuels and net-zero stupidity. I think Aussies have just voted for more of it.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:16pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Won’t happen id Newzuela, we have coal and gas//
  
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  June 14, 2022 4:25pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XtQju2s6U4

David Seymour on the cabinet reshuffle.

Sean Plunket speaks to David Seymour on The Platform. The main topic is the Cabinet re-shuffle. [22:20]
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June 14, 2022 12:46pm
Maggie Pie

My partner tweets….

‘Interest Rates up the Stock Market down and you’ll probably get mugged if you go to town’

He’s a poet and dont know it 😀
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June 14, 2022 1:11pm
- mogg
  
  Yes but Restaurant Brands are still priced at 27 x times earnings, so KFC, McDonalds and Pizza Hut are still laughing all the way to the bank.
  
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  June 14, 2022 1:39pm
- tf78
  
  People pull out of stocks and invest in real estate in times like these.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:36pm
Surely Knott

The Telegraph “Liz Laybourn, the head of Burgess Hill Girls near Haywards Heath, West Sussex, said the changing times have made her think twice about saying “daughters” when writing to parents..”

It’s a GIRLS school. It’s even in the name of the school. So you think you would be fairly safe sending out a letter about daughters and girls.
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June 14, 2022 2:03pm
Warren

Ha ha David Seymour makes a statement that his candidate in the Tauranga By Election Cameron Luxton is the best candidate of the three people wanting to be the MP of Tauranga , this statement after the latest poll numbers were announced 45% backed Nationals Sam Uffindell, 35% backed LaboursJan Tinetti and 7% backed Acts Cameron Luxton.
Seymour using his mouth instead of his brain once again.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tauranga-byelection-poll-has-national-candidate-sam-uffindell-ahead-in-simon-bridges-old-seat/UMIA25WQT3WQZUYQJOBHWCLDOU/
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June 14, 2022 2:13pm
- Libertarians are right
  
  That’s an idiotic take. We are a democracy. Just because the majority of people want one person for a role doesn’t mean they’re the best person for the job, just that they’re the one that’s wanted by the most people. Look at Jacinda for example.
  
  Do you not know how democracies work? They aren’t meritocracies.
  
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  June 14, 2022 2:40pm
  - Warren
    
    But it is right when you guys slag off Chris Luxon when he is doing a top job , David Seymour hunts with the hounds and runs with the hares.
    
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    June 14, 2022 5:54pm
Maggie Pie

Winnie’s tweet has got me wondering if Trev might actually be Transitioning?

https://twitter.com/winstonpeters/status/1536529782791282689
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June 14, 2022 2:23pm
- mandk
  
  Peter is right in saying that Mallard has discredited the office of Speaker.
  
  Mallard deserves no honour.
  
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  June 14, 2022 4:24pm
- Don Beckett
  
  Yep – old Winnie sure knows how to pick an election theme – crafty, lying old fox.
  
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  June 14, 2022 4:27pm
Jack5

What Ardern buys from the media with your tax money ….

The woke idiot Simon Wilson in the Herald hammers Luxon on his gang policy, and describes Luxon’s explanation as confusing.

A Simon Wilson standard for “confusing” is astonishingly low. NZ’s crashing educational standards must go back quite a few decades.

Wilson also points to an article by former National list MP Christ Finlayson championing racial co-government in NZ (where “co” signifies two partners rather than many).

Finlayson’s article itself was financed by Ardern’s media subsidies, as is acknowledged.

No mention that Finlayson, before National brought him into Parliament, was the attorney who negotiated a sweetheart Treaty settlement for the South Island tribe, Ngai Tahu.

Let Simon Wilson’s drivel ferment away behind the Herald paywall, but here’s a link to the piece Wilson quotes about Finlayson, whose “KKK brigade” diatribe likely is intended to cover, among others, Kiwiblog followers.

Your taxes paid for it, so you might as well as read it:

https://e-tangata.co.nz/comment-and-analysis/chris-finlayson-co-governance-should-be-embraced-not-feared/
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June 14, 2022 2:34pm
Warren

As I despise both of these Politicains it would be nice to hear the truth in this saga really it seems that Winston has Mallard by the short and curlys so to my horror I have to back Winston Peter’s to win this , but against is the New Zealand Taxpayer that will front the bill.
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June 14, 2022 3:03pm
Swifty

For Kiwiblog old lags – I see Greenfly/Village Idiot, the Greenie/socialist guy who’s trolling here was so bad he got banned and by KS too I believe, his missus has got herself in a spot of bother.

“Robyn Susan Guyton was so drunk, in fact, that other motorists felt compelled to act, persuading her to pull over on the highway, the Dunedin District Court heard last week….”

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/crime/food-deliveries-hold-after-drink-drive-incident

He was enough to drive anyone to drink….
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June 14, 2022 3:13pm
- Maggy Wassilieff
  
  Robert Guyton is a constant feature over at “The Standard”..
  
  For a while he was a very tedious troll on Pete George’s “Your NZ” blog..and even mild Pete had to pull the plug on Guyton.
  
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  June 14, 2022 7:04pm
graham

Kiri Allan calls out the “tokenistic” use of te reo Māori.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/former-conservation-minister-kiritapu-allan-calls-out-tokenistic-use-of-te-reo-at-doc/XAXTVIAQC2NXEUMJFOKN7NU2YY/

A screenshot of an internal email was shared on social media from a DoC manager who said they were passing on “feedback this week from the minister’s office about inclusion of te reo Māori in the material that we send over”.

Allan has since called the email an “incorrect articulation”.

According to the manager, the minister – at the time Allan – did not want to see te reo used apart from when there was no English equivalent, the whole document was in te reo, and in greetings and sign-offs – which must be in te reo.

Allan was quick to reply on social media, saying the email is “an incorrect articulation of any direction I’ve provided and is absolutely inaccurate”.

“I encourage te reo use but in no way will I tolerate tokenistic use of reo by govt agencies as an attempt to show govt depts are culturally competent.”

Well, I have to say I agree with Kiri Allan. Let’s get rid of all “tokenistic use of reo” by government departments, TV News, councils … the sooner the better, as far as I’m concerned.
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June 14, 2022 4:02pm
- kowtow
  
  Greetings and sign offs are the biggest bit of tokenism going.
  
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  June 14, 2022 5:46pm
- Tauhei Notts
  
  I actually want to see all government departments and others use tokenistic Maori phrases.
  That way most people will see it for what it is-a big bag full of codswallop. Then, and only then, will this stupidity be brought to an end.
  
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  June 14, 2022 8:39pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

How rude of you to point out that the Ardern family are mostly freeloaders. How rude to point out that first fish makes TV programs funded mostly by the Govt! How rude////
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June 14, 2022 5:05pm
Maggie Pie

Always had a thing for Firemen.
Seeing them on the News tonite talking about ‘going-on-strike’ shows just how bad things have become under Liarbor.
Those poor guys who put their lives on the line for us, haven’t had a pay-rise for more than 713 days!

Compare that to say someone like MP-for-Tijuana.
He pulls 3 TIMES the money a Firefighter does….and for doing what?

FFS!!
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June 14, 2022 6:38pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  One of their complaints is that they scarcely earn more than the minimum wage.
  
  Of course putting the minimum wage up will not have flow on effects. //
  
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  June 14, 2022 9:07pm
Maggie Pie

This is Jacinda’s New Zealand….

https://t.me/voicesforfreedom/1994
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June 14, 2022 7:04pm
kevn

@Maggie… What a ghastly legacy cinders and ash are leaving.
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