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Warren

Labour up to the same carry on as they have portrayed since they became the Government, but this time it’s the Police Minister .
Nothing has changed same portfolio different Minister in Chris Hipkins and after National spokesperson Mark Mitchell accuses Labour of letting criminals operate with impunity as assaults on Police rise , saying 6 Police officers were assaulted every day last year- an increase of nearly 30% on 2018.
Police Minister Chris Hipkins said he utterly rejects what he calls “Nationals tough” stance . He said “National had a nasty habit of talking big in opposition and failing to act when in Government.
You just can’t trust them .
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/07/national-accuses-labour-of-letting-criminals-operate-with-impunity-as-assaults-on-police-rise.html
This is the pot calling the kettle with Labours track record of using the taxpayer money to bribe New Zealander’s and manipulating figures to suit their agenda.
The lies and deciet is a regular habit from the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and her cabinet and corruption is rife in a Labour Partythat is more about themselves than the Taxpayer of New Zealand.
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July 11, 2022 8:03am
- Frank the tank
  
  Chipkins is too busy getting all the district commanders to Auckland to discuss how/if they could manage another “short, sharp lockdown”.
  
  You think I’m kidding……….
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:22am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Should read Wellington
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:36am
  - Jim
    
    If that eventuates Frank, I’m not sure what would snap first…..public will, hospitality sector or the police service itself.
    
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    July 11, 2022 3:58pm
    - blue collar
      
      Great question Jim .
      
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      July 11, 2022 5:01pm
- Simon
  
  Labo wasteful spending blah blah blah. Where the tax cuts?
  
  Where are the tax cuts? National.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:27am
  - smttc
    
    Why would you care. You were the one in 2017 saying “Give the other mongs a go”.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:07am
    - double d
      
      He’s a wee bit simple is our Simon.
      If the topic is labour is crap at X Y & Z, Simon will criticise National for not being right wing enough.
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:02pm
Tony Stuart

The Mahuta scandal gets more and more murky with the latest revelations from Thomas Cranmer on the appointment of Tipa Mahuta:

https://twitter.com/kehetauhauaga/status/1546208189783216128

It would appear that the appointment process wasn’t as hands-off from Nanaia Mahuta as she assured everyone it was when she passed over the actual appointment to Kelvin Davis.

Kudos also to Simeon Brown, David Seymour and Paul Goldsmith, who have beavered away asking written parliamentary questions which have helped to establish a timeline of events. Cranmer ends the thread thus:

Clearly there are serious questions about the appointment process & the management of the on-going conflict which is at the heart of the Three Waters structure. Who will bring this out-of-control Minister to heel?

When will someone in the media decide that asking serious questions as to the probity of this government is more important than ongoing revenue from the Public Interest Journalism Fund? It will only take one media organisation with the integrity to do its job of holding the Government to account without fear or favour for the dam to break. The evidence is there, hiding in plain sight. It is of no credit whatsoever to the media that they continue to ignore these serious allegations.
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July 11, 2022 8:14am
- Swifty
  
  The arrogance in all this is breathtaking.
  
  That they thought they could just airily wave away NZers concerns about nepotism and perceptions of conflicts of interest.
  
  All of the Mahutas could have agreed beforehand that no applications for jobs or contracts will be made to any area of government that Nanaia has responsibility for and this whole tawdry saga could have been avoided. There is, of course, the whole rest of the economy, both public and private, where they could ply their trades.
  
  But no.
  
  With all that they claim is at stake with co-governance, the MHA and 3 waters etc you’d think they’d be doubly, triply, cautious not to do anything to endanger or jeopardise these initiatives in the public mind.
  
  But no.
  
  I say again, much more of this, which plays right into the hands of those who reckon these initiatives are nothing but a money and power grab by the Maori elite and for the Maori elite, and co-incident with the revelations that the polytechnic merger is a fast-moving train wreck, and Mahuta, Davis, Jackson etc will be the grave diggers of co-governance. If they are not already.
  
  In my view, all of this serves as a small foretaste of what is to come if the Maori elite succeed with their money and power grab.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:48am
  - Stellaboxer
    
    I don’t think the so called Māori elites will find there is much money left to grab. Most tax payers will leave the country leaving pensioners, dole wallahs, low skilled workers and assorted benefit recipients. Even more amusing they are intent on reduction of the agricultural sector possibly the only thing keeping the lights on and with the declaration that they will not be issuing anymore gas or oil exploration permits without any consultation have signaled to investors that New Zealand isn’t a safe place to invest. If anywhere like a million people leave the country you’ll watch your property value dwindle as well. Rant over
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:09am
    - Swifty
      
      A good rant.
      
      🙂
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:09am
    - Jim
      
      Agree Stella. In a globalised world our beautiful country’s relative geographic isolation and small population are significant vulnerabilities to our ongoing economic and societal prosperity.
      
      This is a critical time for NZ to rebuild and promote productivity. However the government is insistent upon driving up costs that strangle business, whilst our labour market is short of critical skills, and the tourism and hospitality sectors are almost on life support.
      
      So if the government introduces an unstable pseudo democracy (cogovernance), with the resultant (state sponsored) racial tensions, and decreased business efficiency via cultural bureaucracy (council liaison with local iwi typically produces project delays and increased costs), the NZ future will be everything but prosperous.
      Then just add a Net Zero squeezed agricultural sector, broken and slowed transport networks and we’re heading more towards a crashed GDP and devaluation of the NZD as business leaves NZ; similar to guests running from a drunk incoherent party host.
      
      I do hope I’m wrong, and that Robbo and Orr have a ‘patriotic’ master plan I’m unable to see.
      
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      July 11, 2022 12:42pm
    - blue collar
      
      Good on ya Stella ! Read more like a reasoned sum of facts to me . Keep it up
      
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      July 11, 2022 5:03pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    This is only the beginning. Nobody can stop it until Election time.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:47am
    - AitchW
      
      And the election is over a year away. Tonight on the news is a story about yet another Public Health Service in crisis, the time St John Ambulance. How much more damage will this government do before it is fired? One could be forgiven for thinking that Labour is indulging in a scorched earth campaign so that National and ACT have nothing to inherit other than a country in total dysfunction.
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:09pm
- Frank the tank
  
  Both Mahuta and Robber(tson) have Kungflu at the moment – it would not surprise me if either ends up in hospital given their physical characteristics. As such I don’t think you’ll see our Foreign Minister for a while.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:53am
  - Warren
    
    Robertson was in Australia with Jacinda to meet their Australia counterparts and pass a policy that allows New Zealander’s permanent residence that won’t come intil 2023.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:22am
    - Tony Stuart
      
      Correct. He had Covid the previous week, which left Chris Hipkins answering parliamentary questions to the PM, not Labour Deputy Kelvin Davis, as one might have reasonably expected.
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:53am
  - Opie
    
    But how? They would have scanned in everywhere?
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:15am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    I thought Robertson had Covid and was cleared to go to Australia. Has he been infected again?
    Something not right here.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:51am
    - Jim
      
      Steve I suspect a distinct lack of physical resilience. Pre pandemic it used to be called ‘real data driven’ medical science, which has now been replaced with ‘the government’s whole truth’ science.
      
      IMHO despite what big pharmaceutical says, drugs simply can’t fix ageing and a lack of metabolic health.
      
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      July 11, 2022 12:49pm
- cas
  
  When i worked in Parliament all thos eyears ago, you could tell what letters came directly from a Minister’s office and what were prepared by the Department. The latter had a date stamp on, the former were typed in to the letter.
  
  This letter then ( unless things have changed) was not one prepared by the Department but by the Minister’s staff on her directions ( and perhaps acting on suggestions of her sister).
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:32am
- Thought Criminal
  
  This is how it will be when unelected opaque Maori bureaucrats run everything.
  
  Jobs for friends and family.
  
  Thanks to Nanaia for being so honest about the future.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:57am
- surfing
  
  When government started appointing family members into roles in which they have no expertise and the main appointment criteria appears to be birthright then one can at least be assured that Maori tribalism is making a strong comeback.
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:44am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    If tribalism is making a comeback, can cannibalism be far behind? After all, it’s an indigenous custom with a long and (ig)noble tradition.
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:01pm
- Paulus
  
  $105 million is the answer – especially as she is a Maori appointed by her Minister’s Sister and other friends.
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:00am
- Bob
  
  When will someone in the media……..
  Tony, this question was answered in the BasettBrash Hide cartoon this morning…. no journalistic spines available.
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:57am
- Philview
  
  Kelvin Davis as we found out last week is not one for requesting CVS. The story sank so fast did we imagine it. It doesn’t leave a lot of confidence that he is more discerning with the CVS of family members of colleagues.
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:23pm
Maggie Pie

Looks like they’ve completed most of the new signage for the renaming of AUCKLAND HOSPITAL….even in Wilson’s Parking building.

‘Te Whatu Ora Te Tokei Tumai Auckland’

How they were allowed to leave “Auckland” in there is beyond me.

Just saying.
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July 11, 2022 8:15am
- Benedict Yu
  
  ‘Te Whatu Ora Te Tokei Tumai Auckland’
  
  It beyond absurd. It will still be referred to as “Auckland Hospital”.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:18am
  - Swifty
    
    What did Maori name their hospitals?
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:22am
    - igm
      
      Whare o tohunga!
      
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      July 11, 2022 8:49am
    - Nickc2
      
      Te Hangi?
      
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      July 11, 2022 8:50am
    - RoboRob
      
      rua
      
      (Grave)
      
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      July 11, 2022 8:57am
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Lunch!
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:02pm
    - riffer
      
      I don’t get it. Why this expectation that Maori should remain the same people that they were pre European colonisation? We do not expect that Pakeha society not change. There are thousands of words of English that have been added since then. Why should Te Reo be any different? Why should we not speak Te Reo in the country it was born in. This attitude is short sighted, and, dare I say it, kind of ignorant. You are better than that.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:04pm
      - Swifty
        
        It was a joke my dear fellow.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:49pm
      - blue collar
        
        Too bloody long and no one understands it .
        
        Simplicity is key in communication . Auckland hospital . Easy . In a language most of the world understands .
        Why complicate and exaggerate communication ? Short n sweet is best .
        
        Labour . Clowns
        Labour , virtue signalling destructive morons .
        
        See . First one is east n memorable , both mean the same thing but why bother getting long winded ?
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:11pm
      - Don Beckett
        
        riffer: you’re not listening – or if so, you are not hearing. The radical elite Maori are telling us that collonialisation has been the downfall of Maoritanga. They want to return to the pre-colonial times when they weren’t oppressed. All pakeha should go home.
        ( That’s actually got me screwed – I’m a 5th.generation kiwi with Maori on both sides of my family) 🙂
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:17pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        Some are not interested, and certainly don’t want it forced upon us. How the fuck is anyone meant to slip those words off the tongue? Let’s just make life harder for everyone, including Maori who don’t speak Te Reo. Idiots.
        
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        July 11, 2022 9:49pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        There is no need whatever to speak Te Reo and most of us don’t. It degrades rather than assists communication and productivity. Next question.
        
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        July 12, 2022 4:36am
  - graham
    
    Indeed. As so many have said here before, all the millions of dollars spent trying to manipulate New Zealanders into changing the names they use to refer to various institutions and places has made little to no difference. It seems to me that the one name that is sticking is Waka Kotahi, and that’s only because the media are using it almost exclusively in preference to New Zealand Transport Agency.
    
    But nobody that I know talks of heading out of Tamaki Makaurau for the school holidays, flying down the motu to Otautahi or even just going for a road-trip down to Kirikiriroa. Nobody moans about the politicians at Paremata, or talks about going to visit Tamaki Paenga Hira to see the latest exhibitions.
    
    Sadly, I expect this nonsense to continue for a few years yet, and of course if anybody dares to point out the stupidity of trying to force people to refer to an essential service (the hospital) by a name that nobody understands, they’ll be howled down for being racist. Because apparently, being racist is far worse than running the risk of confusing people during a possible emergency situation, or failing to communicate the day’s news clearly and unambiguously, by using words and phrases that maybe 2% of the population understand.
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:48am
    - Nickc2
      
      I just hope all this naming stupidity is another of the challenges a Luxon/Seymour Govt will wind back.
      Let’s face it, if Maori funded, built, and staffed something as a stand-alone for themselves entity, they can call it whatever they like but leave entities that serve all of NZ alone.
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:55am
      - Michael Johnston
        
        The greater the influence of Seymour in the next government the better. Luxon won’t wind much back unless he has to. A vote for National is a vote to pause, but not to undo, the madness of the last five years. A rampant ACT is the best chance we have of getting the country back onto a sane trajectory.
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:55am
      - riffer
        
        Maori pay taxes just like Pakeha do. New Zealand is where te reo was born. It is fitting that we use the language here.
        
        In 30 years, this last racist generation of boomers will be gone and we will look back at some of the comments like what you say here and shake our heads.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:07pm
      - graham
        
        You … DO realise that you’ve just proved my point in paragraph 3, don’t you riffer?
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:20pm
      - blue collar
        
        Don’t include me in your we riffer. I can speak te reo but only on Marae .
        I prefer my own choice of language , and it’s English , you and anybody else can go for your lives , it’s a free country , make signs dominant in English with small Maori underneath if you must , so everybody is easily informed .
        Never expect anybody to be like you coz you know best . That’s totalitarian .
        I prefer libertarianism.
        Each to their own .
        We just want effective communication and you hvnt got that when a sign is in a language most people don’t understand .
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:17pm
      - Observer of Life
        
        Riffer: Or not.
        
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        July 11, 2022 9:52pm
      - Jack5
        
        Riffer’s …this last racist generation of boomers will be gone…
        
        Racism is going to die out?
        
        After a hundred thousand years?
        
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        July 11, 2022 11:59pm
  - MCōs
    
    It should be the Grafton Hospital
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:51am
    - Ehlana
      
      Why?
      
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      July 11, 2022 2:55pm
      - MCōs
        
        Because it’s in the suburb of Grafton. Same as Auckland Airport is also called Mangere Airport.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:04pm
    - riffer
      
      Yeh, nah. That’s just weird, naming places in our country after some rich old fella from England who never stepped foot in the place. Much better to name it after something that has some local historical meaning. It’s no longer “where England goes, we go”.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:09pm
      - blue collar
        
        Give my wheel back then and my money . Go where Maori leads you . Ps , don’t drink my water from a tap or go to my toilet either , follow your way ….
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:18pm
  - Paulus
    
    Auckland remains currently in name but like many others Auckland will be dropped serrupticially like many other place names now via the media.
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:02am
    - Jim
      
      This myopic focus on Te Reo signage will not add value to our international tourism sector, unless the signage is offered in both official (spoken) languages. But maybe that’s the idea?
      
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      July 11, 2022 12:56pm
      - riffer
        
        I think you speak too soon. Overseas tourists are fascinated by our local culture. Have you noticed that when you go overseas to a country where they don’t speak English that you make an effort to learn some of the language? Same thing.
        
        I am, of course, assuming that you don’t act like Basil Fawlty and just talk English louder…
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:10pm
    - Jack5
      
      Re Paulus’s point: Stewart Island is latest to be Woked.
      
      On State TV and State Radio it’s Rakiura/Stewart Island, soon to be just Rakiura.
      
      Most folk in the far south have long mainly called it “the island”.
      
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      July 11, 2022 2:44pm
      - MCōs
        
        I don’t know, but I think I’d be right in saying the original inhabitants didn’t call it Stewart Island.
        As it happens it’s been officially referred to Rakiura for almost 25 years.
        I didn’t know that either.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:20pm
      - Jack5
        
        The name, “Stewart Island,” comes from William Stewart, first mate on the sealer Pegasus, who charted Port Pegasus in 1809.
        
        It goes back before the Treaty of Waitangi. Most Far South Maori are descendants of White whalers and sealers as well as of Maori.
        
        This is from the National Encyclopedia:
        
        In 1845 Wohlers [a German missionary] reckoned there were around 150 children of mixed descent around the shores of Foveaux Strait. The men had become boat builders, traders and millers. In origin they were mostly seafaring people such as Shetland and Orkney islanders, and also other Britons, Scandinavians, Germans and Americans .
        
        Later in the 19th century, there was an influx of Scots, and another dash of Scandinavians, this time Norwegian whalers.
        
        No way could MCos’s pre-European “original inhabitants” spell or write or read “Rakiura”, but it was and is more mellifluous than the first mate’s moniker.
        
        Today, in everyday jabber it’s typically “the island”, except for conservation Wokies. The problem is the push to force the use of “Rakiura,” which means “glowing skies” in reference to the Aurora australis.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:54pm
  - I remember when
    
    If given just the Maori names how many people would be able to correctly tie them to their English language equivalent.
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:29pm
- Gravelroad
  
  There is an advertisement on this site about kowheori-19 – which I assume is Covid 19.
  Who makes up these re-brands in Maori?
  Is there a special working group of highly paid linguists shut in a room at Labour Party HQ developing random new Maori words?
  It is all getting just a bit pathetic now.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:31am
  - 70andstilllearning
    
    That’s just the start of it Gravel. Went to dig some data out of IRD for a taxpayer this morning and discovered that for the last decade odd their Employer contribution to Kiwisave has been provided by Te Whatu Ora, which I find a little strange given said organisation has only been “operational” for around 10 days, not 10 years. Guessing that many tens of thousands of taxpayers historical financial records have been “altered” in the name of “re-branding” !!!!!!
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:00am
    - kowtow
      
      No doubt down at Te Minitry o te truthiti , Winitana Mete is busily receiving and acting on orders from on high to rewrite history according to whatever the current fashion is.
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:17am
      - Trev
        
        Going by some geographic board re-namings that pay no regard to even Maori local history but just dream up new politically correct Maori names that is exactly what is going on. Meanwhile local use of existing place names continues.
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:41am
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        Bit like te new “history” curricular in schools, but why wait 200 years to re-“right” it when you can do it in under 20! 🙂
        
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        July 11, 2022 12:55pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      “We have always been at war with Eastasia”
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:05am
    - Local Miller
      
      While I don’t think it’s correct, this may just be a database/data issue. The name “Te Whatu Ora” was probably only changed in a single location and they have a key that links the client record to the Kiwisave contributor. That one change gets reflected back in time. The correct way to do it would have been to add a new record with a new key so the change is reflected correctly from when it happened. IRD were probably just too lazy to do it correctly.
      After 25+ years of database administration I’ve seen this sort of thing a lot.
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:32am
      - Humai
        
        Yup – a “Slowly Changing Dimension”, as we call it in the trade.
        
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        July 11, 2022 12:28pm
      - 70andstilllearning
        
        You will be almost certainly correct LM, however having spent the last couple of decades working at the “back of the front end” i.e. financial user perspective (or “front of the back end” from the IT perspective) I’ve had to do quite a few of this type of “brand change” exercise at both product and organisational level in C E environments.
        The key points really are:
        1) All the financial systems I’ve worked with have had the capacity to delineate between historical transactions and those going forward, I doubt the the new IRD system is any different – and;
        2) Auditors usually get their nickers in a twist if you start messing around with transactional data that has been “locked” following completion and publication of audit opinion, particularly where there is a public accessibility (customer) factor.
        This is possibly a cockup that will be corrected although both the lazy/convenient image aspects certainly crossed my mind.
        
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        July 11, 2022 1:36pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    Gravel. Change your browser to Brave.com
    No advertising. Much lower blood presure
    
    and use duckduck go as search engine, more content than google!!
    (after google censor so much)
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:14am
  - David Garrett
    
    Gravel: You are half right … there is a taxpayer funded outfit- God knows what it costs – whose function is to invent new terms for things which were either unknown in 1840 or which the ancient Maori ĺknew nothing of. Said outfit has been around for at least 30 years. I believe it’s called the Maori Language Commission – or at least it was called that
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:10pm
    - Philview
      
      Did you spot you made the news last night David? ACT must be on target if trawling back over old stories is necessary.
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:28pm
      - David Garrett
        
        Phil: No I didn’t…I haven’t watched broadcast TV in years. I’m sure the reference to me wasn’t complimentary – did it include reference to a “dead baby” and a bogey passport application made almost 40 years ago?
        
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        July 11, 2022 3:52pm
      - Matt Long
        
        The Ferald had an article that did DG, tried to get in every scandal Act had over its existence. Funny I didn’t see the article about Labour or Greens yet.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:50pm
- RoboRob
  
  Amazing that the hospitals can change their signage, web sites and probably stationary, so quickly. Pity the important stuff still needs to be worked out. But having a new, unpronounceable, name will improve patient outcomes.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:00am
  - pdm
    
    Things don’t happen that quickly under this government- they have been working on those changes since they started on He Puapua.
    
    Probably a lot of crossings out too as they changed their collective minds.
    
    What else would most of the (so called) Maori Caucus have to do other than sit in on Question Time.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:56am
  - NeverMindTheBollocks
    
    First thing done on 1 July was for every staff member to update their email block.
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:07pm
    - riffer
      
      I call bullshit on that one. Any organisation that large would have the signature blocks inserted by the email software as a group thing.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:13pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Nope. How would Group software know what my choice of pronouns is?
        
        Get with the programme, Riffer!
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:36pm
- backster
  
  You are lucky the word Auckland was allowed in. The entrance to the (Porirua) Kenepuru Hospital has a billboard size sign at the road entrance with a long Maori word. To the side is a separate very small sign stating Hospital entrance.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:14am
Yvette

1 million NZers considering evacuation and 3% of our 20-29 workforce having already left
Jacinda’s unanticipated answer to Kiwibuild
(sarc) or “//“ or “woop, woop, pull up” or whatever, but perhaps true
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July 11, 2022 8:19am
- Frank the tank
  
  This is Grunter’s and his sidekick in a Hugh Wrights suit strategy. Obviously one of the trade union loons have convinced them this is the way of building up New Zimbabwe’s economy.
  
  Make no mistake this is intentional
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:26am
- Tricati
  
  An additional downside if 1 million NZers do leave, they are likely to be National/ACT voters who are self driven and take personal responsibility. Labour wont be worried, but centre right voters should be.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:28am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Fat South Aucklander’s lounging on a beach in the GC say hi.
    
    I wonder how many ‘kinghits’ will occur before each way Albo shafts “Our Glorious Leader”?
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:49am
    - Nickc2
      
      ASAP I hope!!!!
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:59am
    - riffer
      
      More racist generalisation.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:14pm
      - Frank the tank
        
        Lol. Didn’t even name a race. BTW Riffy it’s true just ask the locals.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:25pm
  - MCōs
    
    As we were constantly reminded during the MIQ period a million Kiwis already live offshore.
    The grass has always been greener somewhere else.
    
    I noted four of the Irish ogres who mauled the ABs are ex Kiwis. As are Baz & Stokes. Alker, Ko.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:00am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.
  Has the “evacuation”of NZ started yet?.
  Look out the window and tell me if you see helicopters.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:39am
  - Frank the tank
    
    I thought your caravan backed onto the ‘holiday park’s’ fence?
    
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    July 11, 2022 8:51am
  - Matt Long
    
    I’ll pay your ticket if you need it Mike.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:03am
    - Yabster
      
      lets start a ticket fund- will we have to buy three though? -one for each logon name?
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:37am
    - Opie
      
      Na Ross is your classic socialist.
      
      Made a pile on some land and doesn’t have to work, but thinks those that do work should give most of it to those that don’t.
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:30am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        What is it with you and land?.
        If you have rented all your life then it’s hardly my fault….
        
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        July 11, 2022 11:08am
    - Ross Campbell
      
      Your all heart Matt.
      However I could not possibly accept such a gracious offer as the thought of depriving your family of the basics would tear me apart as I know MSD is tightening up on those emergency loans.
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:43am
      - Tony Stuart
        
        Your grammar is failing you Ross. Surely a perfectionist like yourself would have known to say “You’re all heart Matt” 😉
        
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        July 11, 2022 11:56am
      - Ross Campbell
        
        It must be nice to have time out today Tony from having to run distractions for Luxon or one of his other hangers on who has put his foot in his mouth.
        Never mind I’m sure the break will be short lived and your services will be required again soon.
        
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        July 11, 2022 1:24pm
      - Matt Long
        
        You get loans from MSD Mike? How does one avail oneself of those?
        Of course if it involves fraud I would have to leave it to you.
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:02pm
      - Matt Long
        
        Apologies to Tony, “one’s self “
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:02pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    yep.
    Full flights for the last 3 months leaving NZ.
    I join the excodus on Thirsday
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:15am
- The Boss
  
  Team of 4 million?
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:58am
  - riffer
    
    Well that will solve the housing crisis in a flash won’t it. We won’t even need to confiscate the empty houses from all the people with “Chinese sounding names.”
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:15pm
    - Matt Long
      
      I know, that was the Ardern plan all along wasn’t, gut the economy so everyone leaves and frees up housing. And gut the middle classes so the median income falls, voila child poverty solved.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:56pm
      - riffer
        
        Only slightly less evil than Key’s plan to have the homeless die in their cars while we all look the other way and claim “there is no housing crisis in the rockstar economy.”
        
        And yes, I did read the news the other day about the batty old lady who died in her car.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:58pm
      - Matt Long
        
        Yes, homelessness and poverty sure were a problem under Key, all solved now eh?
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:05pm
Piticus

Three waters was initiated due to the Havelock North (Hawkes Bay) water crisis a few years ago (tragically 4 lost their lives). On Q+A yesterday the mayors of 4 Hawkes Bay settlements (Wairoa, Napier, Hastings and Central Hawkes Bay) expressed their strong opposition to the plan. The programme however did find one Hastings councillor who was ardently supportive (or maybe that should be Ardernly).
That was Bayden Barber, chairman of Ngati Kahuungunu – what a surprise !!!!!.
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July 11, 2022 8:22am
- pdm
  
  And I was stupid enough to give Baden Barber my vote 3 years ago – not this time.
  
  Was Hastings Mayor definitely against – she is not letting on to ratepayers.
  
  BTW I refuse to watch or listen to Jack Tame if I can possibly avoid him.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:08am
  - Piticus
    
    It appears the Hastings mayor is opposed but is not joining the lobby group with her counterparts. Yep Jack (or James as Winnie calls him much to Tames annoyance) is awful however his programme does attract some quality topics on which he can bulldoze his guests !
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:37am
- I remember when
  
  To be fair to Bayden Barber he did at least get elected to both his Hastings District Council seat and Ngati Kahugnunu leadership.
  He has had two terms on the Hastings Council so does at least have a working knowledge of their water woes.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:17am
  - Piticus
    
    how does the fact he got elected make any difference ?
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:38pm
- kowtow
  
  The so cxalled crisis was just their Trojan Horse .
  
  Has nuttin’ to do with what’s on the box.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:19am
  - Tony Stuart
    
    Ain’t that the truth. It was the excuse they needed though.
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:57am
kevn

@Yvette… “yip, yip that’s what it is”
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July 11, 2022 8:28am
Maggie Pie

This guy sounds like a bit of a worry to me….

‘The Maori King’s eldest son Whatumoana Paki, had attempted a coup of the Kingitanga, run up mounting debts around the Motu, and dabbled in aspects of Black Magic’

>>Check out Joe Lose’s latest piece in The-Horrid

https://nzherald.co.nz/author/joseph-lose/
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July 11, 2022 8:33am
- plc
  
  “asking hard-hitting questions of those in power”
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:42am
- RRM
  
  Good. Anything that divides and weakens that movement is good for New Zealand.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:45am
- RoboRob
  
  Never thought of this before but…..
  
  Isn’t having a Maori King a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi? I believe the one thing that the Maori people had to do was cede governance to the Crown.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:02am
  - herb1
    
    Also with the Maori party screaming for decolonisation, why aren’t they attacking the Maori King , for using a colonial title.
    Mean while de colonising should see them giving up the English language, books, written language, houses , roads , most of their food, most of their clothing, schooling, laws, ( although quite a few gave this up long ago).
    Just seems like calling for decolonisation means keeping all the advantages of colonisation and stripping power from the colonisers who were actually Maori saviours
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:05am
    - Jack5
      
      Herb1’s … de colonising should see them giving up ….
      
      And the cowboy hats. Cowboys were leaders in the colonisation of the vast plains of North America.
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:45am
    - alloytoo
      
      wheels?
      
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      July 11, 2022 12:30pm
  - Cassandra
    
    A northern (Nga Puhi) expert describes him as the Hereditary Mayor of Huntly.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:14am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Maybe the Treaty of Waitangi will be rewritten?
    Just like the Dems wanting to rewrite the Constitution, especially the first and second Amendments
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:15am
  - riffer
    
    Have a read here:
    https://theconversation.com/the-kingitanga-movement-160-years-of-maori-monarchy-102029
    
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    July 11, 2022 5:03pm
Frank the tank

Thor Love and Woke Review:

-1st 5 minutes good – lot’s of Christian Bale and no woke LGBTQZAYFD jokes/virtue signaling
-First post credit scene good – introduces Hercules who is a major character in MCU lore
-In between 110 minutes of painful woke LGBTSEIUFIC garbage coupled with a shit story line, emasculating it’s main character and one of the protagonists who looks and speaks like Con the Fruitier.

I knew it was going to be shit when the fat one from The Project was post-orgasmic in her review.

Made the Eternals look good.
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July 11, 2022 8:34am
- Yabster
  
  yep and Kate Rodger gushed… aka crap…
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:40am
RRM

A mum in one of my groups writes:

Hi everyone.
I’m currently at **** hospital for a day procedure which was rescheduled to today due to short staffing, for my daughter (5) who is literally deaf and needs grommets to fix her ears. We’ve traveled from ********* at 530am.
Who can we write to to complain about staffing numbers. These guys are working their buts off, calling staff in on days off every week.
The anethetist is sick. So they have to take one from another department when hes finished his surgery. But we have to wait longer.
Now have to wait another hour cause there is an emergency surgery and not enough nurses to go around. The rest of the list has been canceled for the day. What can we do? Who can we bombard with complaints, it’s really bad .
I can hear the nurses telling each other to call the ombudsman, write to our mp. They are literally saying “we need more nurses now” ” we don’t have enough nurses”
😭😭😭
This is not good enough. These mandates need to go now!! The health system is struggling. How can we help???
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July 11, 2022 8:34am
- rockape
  
  It’s so bad the Auckland EDs are offering triple time for nurses to come in and do night shifts to fill in.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:04am
- kevn
  
  RRM… do-little. There is your answer.
  Sadly for your child.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:05am
- Prince
  
  But, where has all the ‘extra funding’ gone ?
  
  $135 Billion in debt, and what d’ya get ?
  A bunch of corrupt liars, and Health, Education and Justice systems in crisis.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:38am
  - Opie
    
    It’s fine – now that it has a race based name, you can lower your expectations for it like everyone else in that race.
    
    It’s effort, not handouts that fix this.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:34am
    - riffer
      
      Jesus, it’s not a race based name. It is a te reo name. Again, I have to point out the racism on this blog.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:18pm
      - blue collar
        
        How is Maori not raced based ?
        Pandering to one demographic on skin or culture is racism .
        The fact you defend this makes you a racist .
        And you call opine a racist ?
        Mate , calm down , it’s ok to criticise Maori wonderfulness . It’s ok to call out racist activities eg the Maori party . What hv they done for the white man , or Chinese man lately ? Racists
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:25pm
      - Alan Wilkinson
        
        There is nothing so overtly and deliberately racist as current Te Reo. All Maori know that. They are not as stupid as Lefties.
        
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        July 12, 2022 4:48am
- surfing
  
  The mandates have little to do with it.
  
  More are going to Australia to work .
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:35am
- nathie
  
  Nursing and health professional shortages? Staff reaching breaking point? Health system on the verge of collapse?
  
  Where’s ~~Wally1~~ Cindy? Where is she and her leadership on these crucial issues?
  
  Where’s ~~Wally2~~ Grant Robbertson? What happened to his $60b he magic’ed up to spend on the covid/health system to keep it running?
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:38am
  - Paulus
    
    Isn’t Cindy on her way for a Pacific Island Forum photoshoot, with a funny shirts, in Fiji this week ?
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:36pm
    - riffer
      
      Well at least she’s not acting like Clustopher and dissing business and most of the population to anyone who will listen overseas. Fucking traitor.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:19pm
- Tony Stuart
  
  Try this one:
  
  [email protected]
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:59am
- Bob
  
  How can we help……..
  
  RRM you can help at the 2023 election by remembering this day, and voting for a more competent government; if you already do, then convince your family, neighbours etc to vote more intelligently next year.
  Hope that your daughter eventually gets the attention that she needs on this visit, and no later after another 5.30 am start tot your day.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:09pm
artemisia

Bring back the old ways – unions, fair pay and collective agreements ….

AUT School of Hospitality and Tourism Professor David Williamson told Morning Report the sector had been reliant on cheap migrant labour for too long, and unions, fair pay and collective agreements needed to re-introduced.

Meanwhile a busy Lambton Quay café, long standing venue for our group, has closed. Permanently. Fortunately the excellent staff will have no trouble finding other jobs.

https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/07/10/poor-conditions-in-hospitality-and-tourism-needs-to-be-turned-around/
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July 11, 2022 8:37am
- Benedict Yu
  
  There is no magic pool of ‘unemployed’ people who will take these jobs.
  
  The current minimum wage is $21.20 per hour. The cleaner I use recently advertised for cleaners. She is desperately short of staff. If anyone calls in sick, there is no slack. They need to cancel cleaning jobs.
  
  She told me she is paying $24.00 per hour. That is $960.00 per week. For cleaning. She got 2 applicants. They lasted a few days. Then did not turn up.
  
  It would make no difference if she paid $26.00, or $28.00. If she paid $45.00 per hour maybe she would get more cleaners. But at that price there would be no customers. She would need to charge me so much that I would cancel and do my own cleaning.
  
  That is what guys like this do not understand. There is a market price for cleaning services, and dining, and bar drinks. You can’t just double wages and pass those costs on to customers because your customers will vanish.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:23am
  - Ra Henare
    
    Went to a new restaurant in Tauranga on Saturday. The steak was $65 came with a couple of green leaves, added French fries another $11.
    I guess they must be paying their staff heaps as they were fully staffed and about 80% full at 6pm
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:31am
  - Bobba Fret
    
    That is far too logical. Labour MP’s will not understand that as they have never run or been in a successful business.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:42am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Even if Labour MPs do start a business, it will fail. They just have no money sense.
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:22am
      - Bobba Fret
        
        Yes that is why I used the word ‘successful business’ as I believe only David Parker has been in a business and that was not successful I believe.
        
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        July 11, 2022 12:12pm
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        Well, sometimes business people do fail, then pick themselves up & make a success of things second time around.
        
        Looks like Parker decided to take another route.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:42pm
  - riffer
    
    And this is what guys like you don’t understand.
    
    Nobody wants to do that shitty job for $24 any more. You can’t just continue to offer low wages in a low unemployment economy because your staff will vanish.
    
    No staff = no business.
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:21pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Enjoy doing your own cleaning, Riffer
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:43pm
    - RightFirstTime
      
      I appreciate that you are no great fan of the market economy riffer but shouldn’t that be “No customers = No business”?
      
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      July 11, 2022 8:24pm
    - Alan Wilkinson
      
      Here’s a thought for you, riffer. No workers, no tax, no welfare. Coming your way fast.
      
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      July 12, 2022 4:51am
Frank the tank

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2022/07/kiribati-withdraws-from-pacific-islands-forum-with-immediate-effect.html

Anyone that has attended an auction in Auckland in the last decade can attend that if the Chinese want something they’ll get it.

All that is left is to see how much money Australia and New Zimbabwe throw down the toilet in the interim.
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July 11, 2022 8:47am
krazykiwi

The latest batch of Pfizer safety study data released under court-order includes the review of safety when doses administered to pregnant woman. Some alarming takeouts:

1. 270 pregnancies. Pfizer state that of the 270 pregnancies they have absolutely no idea what happened in 238 of them. Imagine that. They simply ‘lost’ contact and ‘lost’ the data. This is the dog ate my homework stuff.

2. There were 34 outcomes altogether at the time of the report, but 5 of them were still pending. Pfizer note that only 1 of the 29 known outcomes were normal, whilst 28 of the 29 outcomes resulted in the loss/death of the baby. This equates to 97% of all known outcomes of Covid-19 vaccination during pregnancy resulting in the loss of the child. Here’s a chart of this data

Table 6, Pages 12 and 13 have much of this data. Some details is buried in the text itself.

Right @surfing, @aunty et al. You’ve assumed the position that everything I post about vaccine safety is Covid conspiracy theorist wacko nut-job stuff. I challenge you to read this paper and confirm that you are happy that these injectables are safe for pregnant women. Just when you’re ready…
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July 11, 2022 8:50am
- Pavel
  
  Hey KK, I was reading multiple articles the other day about Vax rates in the Caribbean. Haiti is 1.4% vaxxed and most other Caribbean countries are under 20% with alot of them rejecting vaccines. Covid is ripping through there and guess what, hardly anyone is dying or going to hospital. Interesting reading.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:59am
- ClanMcleod
  
  You’ll be waiting a while……
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:06am
  - krazykiwi
    
    Yup. Still waiting.
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:10pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Here’s some NZ Government Advice. Things to avoid during pregnancy
  
  -processed meats* such as pâté, salami, ham and luncheon
  -cold pre-cooked meat* such as chicken (plain or smoked) and corned beef
  -raw (unpasteurised) milk and raw milk products
  -soft pasteurised cheese* (ie, brie, camembert, feta, blue, mozzarella and ricotta)
  -pre-prepared or unrefrigerated salads,
  -hummus and other dips containing tahini
  -raw, smoked* or pre-cooked fish* or seafood*
  -foods containing raw egg
  -soft-serve ice cream
  -cream or custard
  
  So, avoid all this dangerous stuff. But vaccines are apparently safe, and recommended:
  
  You can get the Pfizer vaccine at any stage of your pregnancy.
  :::
  It is recommended that pregnant people receive a booster dose of the Pfizer vaccine to help protect them and their baby against the effects of COVID-19. The booster vaccine can be given at any stage of pregnancy.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:09am
  - Ross Campbell
    
    I probably think the NZ government should also add in its warning list while pregnant:
    -always get advice from registered medical professionals and ignore pseudo science and misinformation from armchair internet doctors.
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:04am
    - alloytoo
      
      Most of the NZ government’s messaging is material wrong.
      
      Why should anyone trust them?
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:39am
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      I would far more trust Krazykiwi’s comments that the blatant lies of the Labour Government, Mike.
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:31am
    - Hebe123
      
      should they also ignore material put out by the drug companies, Fizzer in this case?
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:01pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Do you have a rational argument to present, Ross? I’ve yet to see one, but I live in hope that one day you’ll stumble onto something other than tired argumentum ab auctoritate‘s replete with ad hominem attacks.
      
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      July 11, 2022 2:43pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      The NZ “experts” and “medical professionals” who are permitted to speak in our media have been wrong, lied, or some combination of the two repeatedly since Ardern’s “single source of truth” circus began. Why would anyone take advice from them?
      There is a new clown in the circus in today’s Herald. Anna Brooks from Auckland University. I’m guessing Wiles, Hendy, Jackson and Plank have either ducked for cover or have been thoroughly discredited so many times since the start of Ardern’s circus it was time to find some new clowns.
      Pushing the same flawed fear porn. Get another booster. The first three shots didn’t work, is this one different? No. She says “mask up” even though there is clear evidence now available clearly showing masks do basically nothing to prevent infection or transmission of covid or any other airborne virus.
      Why are they still pushing this madness?
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:02pm
- vant
  
  Krazykiwi, I think we need to read the Pfizer report with less biased eyes:
  The report notes that:
  -126,212,580 doses of BNT162b2 were shipped worldwide during 01 December 2020 through 28 February 2021.
  -By 28 Feb 2021 there had been 42,086 case reports of adverse events.
  -270 of those 42,086 cases were pregnant women.
  -Of those 270 pregnant women, outcomes for 238 were not known. This could be because the pregnancies were still on-going.
  -In order to know how bad it was, we need to know how many pregnant women were vaccinated with Pfizer by Feb 2021, and what outcomes were like for women in similar stages of pregnancy that weren’t vaccinated.
  
  We shouldn’t get wound up by the data in Table 6. I don’t think the entire report means anything really. The report contains data for the numerators, but not the denominators, so we can’t really make anything of the report.
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:46pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Let’s assume you’re right, and that of the 270 woman all but 29 reported healthy births. Does a 10.47% mortality rate comfort you? You so you are more flinty-hearted than I.
    
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    July 11, 2022 6:40pm
    - vant
      
      It’s estimated that around 10-15% of recognised pregnancies (the women are aware that they are pregnant) end in loss, so if it’s 10.47% it is not alarming.
      
      But remember that this rate is for people who reported adverse events. What happened to those who didn’t report AEs? Did they not experience any AEs, or did they experience but not report? What were their pregnancy outcomes? What were the outcomes for pregnant women who were not vaccinated? At least show me some comparable data by age and how far along in the pregancy. As I said before, this report is meaningless by itself.
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:07pm
Maggie Pie

And talk about a lack of ‘skilled-immigrant labor’ in the country….

Stopped off at Caltex on my way home earlier…..another $147.60 🙁

As I was standing there with the nozzle in the filler-cap, the Indian forecourt-attendant came out and said…. “If you’d like to pop the bonnet I can check your oil and water”

SHEESH!!
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July 11, 2022 9:07am
- Benedict Yu
  
  I have never had anyone at a petrol station ask that. And modern car radiators do not contain water.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:12am
  - Maggie Pie
    
    That’s exactly it Bene….there is no ‘bonnet’, the motors in the rear, and it’s air-cooled!
    
    Personally, I think he just came out for a perv.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:18am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      Maybe “pop the bonnet” has some urban slang meaning that you and I don’t know about.
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:29am
    - All_on_Red
      
      Those old air cooled VW beetles are worth a bit now so good for you.
      Hope it’s not too rusty.
      Btw- modern 911’s are not air cooled
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:32am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        When was the last time you owned a 911 GTS?
        
        Didn’t you sat you caught a bus from the Shore 😀
        
        LOL!!
        
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        July 11, 2022 9:38am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Ferry Mags, the Ferry
        Much better than the bus
        I’m on it now
        Funnily enough I had a 3.8 GTS 5 years ago
        Did very well when I sold it as it’s become collectable. It was the last of the NA ones.
        I’ve had numerous Porsches
        No shame in being caught out driving an old VW though, Mags
        I’m sure the gas mileage from Otahuhu is fine and I hear they are very reliable
        
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        July 11, 2022 9:44am
      - Maggie Pie
        
        You sound like a gambling man A_O_R 😀
        
        Like to put your money where your mouth is?
        
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        July 11, 2022 9:48am
      - All_on_Red
        
        Depends where you’re putting your mouth…
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:20am
      - NeverMindTheBollocks
        
        A lady VW driver is pulled over on the side of the road, bonnet up.
        
        A second lady VW driver pulls up & asks what the problem is.
        
        ‘The engine’s fallen out’ says the first.
        
        ‘Never mind’ says the second. I have a spare in the boot you can have’.
        
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        July 11, 2022 1:16pm
    - krazykiwi
      
      Silly girl. There is a bonnet. It’s where the OEM custom-fit Louis Vuittons go, don’t you know?
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:38am
    - alloytoo
      
      ahh classic Corvair.
      
      “unsafe at any speed……” according to Ralph
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:42am
      - CBR600
        
        Only dangerous in the hands of drivers without the necessary skills to deal with the swing axle suspension and rear engine combo.
        
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        July 11, 2022 12:24pm
      - riffer
        
        Which is probably the majority of people on the road. Seriously, most people wouldn’t know how to drive stick any more.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:24pm
  - Ra Henare
    
    News to me, no water in the radiator…Perhaps you are thinking of EVs that dont have radiators???
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:32am
    - alloytoo
      
      Coolent or antifreeze rather than water.
      
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      July 11, 2022 10:43am
  - MCōs
    
    Windscreen washer reservoirs do.
    
    Apart from that the bare bones petrol stations in NZ don’t employ people to waste time talking to customers.
    You must be special. Maybe they thought a tip might be in the offing.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:37am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      When I was reading about New Zealand pre 1980s, I recall coming across pictures of old ‘service stations’.
      
      https://www.pinterest.nz/pin/450360031473854986/
      
      It looks like decades ago they may have been called ‘service stations’ because you could have your car serviced as well as get petrol. You can see cars in that photo that look like they are being worked on.
      
      So the guy that offered ‘to check your oil’ may have been a mechanic. The folk employed in ‘petrol stations’ today would mostly not know anything about checking oil.
      
      Maybe I am mistaken. Some folk here may know. 🙂
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:52am
      - krazykiwi
        
        The first car I drove was a Humber 80. Built like a steel ship, cornered reluctantly, gears only changed under duress, and it constantly billowed smoke from the exhaust. I stopped at a semi-rural service station in Wairarapa and the mechanic came out front and said “I’ll fill it with oil and check the petrol if you’d like” 🙂
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:00am
      - MCōs
        
        In Bangkok one doesn’t need to get out of the car.
        Pull up at the pump (Thai word for a petrol station is ‘pump’) & tell an attendant what you want. Petrol, water, oil, check the tyres.
        Some places they’ll clean the car, inside & out, for a few bucks.
        There’s attendants everywhere, often Burmese. We asked one once how much she got paid. Petrol is currently less than $2/litre for 95. It would take that particular attendant about four days at least to make enough money for a tank of petrol.
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:17am
      - alloytoo
        
        KK
        
        My first vehicle was a Mini, if it didn’t have an oil leak you had probably run out.
        
        My 1980 clubman worked on that principle, but my 1961 Austin 850 never leaked a drop.
        
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        July 11, 2022 10:46am
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Cars don’t have water in their radiators? I know they call it “coolant”, but it’s basically water and antifreeze. The mix can vary depending on where you live, but I still top up with water. I put a bit of anti freeze in coming in to winter.
    I don’t have a late model car, has something new been introduced that I haven’t heard about?
    
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    July 11, 2022 10:16am
    - Benedict Yu
      
      I was referring to ‘water alone’. Only putting water in your radiator would be a bad idea. I would not even top it up with water. I buy the correct pre mixed coolant.
      
      Oil, coolants, transmission fluid. All cheap. Engines expensive. 🙂
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:36am
    - Nickc2
      
      It’s advisable to stick to the manufacturer’s recommendations wrt Anti-Freeze as it also prevents electrolytic reactions between dissimilar metals used in the vehicle’s engine.
      
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      July 11, 2022 11:37am
      - Taieri
        
        also prevents electrolytic reactions between dissimilar metals
        ———–
        
        Not really. The tap water is usually not mineralised enough to act as an electrolyte. The main purpose of “anti-freeze” is to prevent corrosion and to increase boiling temperature. The frost protection bit is not really required in the most of NZ climatic conditions.
        
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        July 11, 2022 8:10pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    With a mechanical background I can say the cooling system is around 50% water and 50% antifreeze/corrosion inhibitor
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:37am
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Steve – yes, that’s the mix I use. 50/50
      Works out cheaper than buying coolant specifically, especially if you buy bulk which we do with most things due to location. 2o litres of chain bar oil has lasted 10 years. Probably got a year’s worth still to go. $4 a litre as opposed to $10 if you buy 4l from Supercheap Auto. Also you a few less plastic containers to dispose of. The 20s come in handy around the place for other things.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:17pm
- Gravelroad
  
  “Forecourt attendant”? Havn’t seen one of those for years.
  The “service” station I frequent is a strictly do-it yourself outfit. The employees stand steadfastly behind their counters and look out the windows at the little old ladies and gentlemen struggling with pumps and “bonnets”.
  If you need help you need to ask a fellow customer and just hope they don’t make off with your wallet or steal ya car.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:24am
  - Swifty
    
    Lots and lots of jobs like this have gone since we were young.
    
    It’s the unseen consequence of the constant ratcheting up of the minimum wage – and something the unions and MPs responsible won’t admit to.
    
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    July 11, 2022 9:49am
ClanMcleod

Marburg virus – have no fear. Dr McHonkHonk has it all under control.
Warning, satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBjZxqlBFhc
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July 11, 2022 9:18am
MCōs

Has the President of Sri Lanka resigned yet as he said he would?
Has the PM of Sri Lanka resigned yet as he said he would?
Has Boris resigned as leader of the Conservative Party as he said he would?
No, no & no.
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July 11, 2022 9:30am
- Frank the tank
  
  Has “Our Glorious Leader” fixed the housing crisis, ended child pover(d)y and built light rail to the airport.
  
  No, no and no
  
  P.S. The Lankans were dirty, sleazy corrupt communists proving George Orwell and Animal Farm true once again
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:48am
  - MCōs
    
    Whatever else the soon to be deposed Sri Lankan leadership may be it is neither communist nor dirty.
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:39pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      It seems mandating ‘organic’ farming was a factor in Sri Lanka’s economic crash. That makes the president a communist, doesn’t it?
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:02pm
      - ClanMcleod
        
        Mandates and communism certainly seem to go well together if Ardern and NZ is anything to go by.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:20pm
      - riffer
        
        Nah, no connection between organic farming and communism. The biggest problem, as I see it, was trying to do it overnight. The Sri Lankan agrieconomy was addicted to high use of fertilisers, which was, obviously, unsustainable. They suffered a 25% cut to output as a result of this. Interestingly, they may have gone on for another 10 or 20 years with super amounts of fertiliser, but then their agriculture would have collapsed completely. Probably an incremental approach would have been more desirable, although still not great. It’s a legacy problem, really.
        
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        July 11, 2022 4:28pm
Maggie Pie

A bestie retweets….

‘Was it a case of assassinated Japanese PM Abe not following orders….
He didn’t mandate vaccines, sent 1.6 million doses back and gave citizens Ivermectin. Starting to make sense now?’

https://twitter.com/mislukt12345/status/1545903102989148161
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July 11, 2022 9:32am
- Maggie Pie
  
  And I just found this…
  
  https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/the-abe-assassination
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:02am
- blue collar
  
  Aha . Makes sense now .
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:25pm
I remember when

A view I have received about bullying in ECE facilities.
“Omg a slow news day was it? Unfortunately under 7s don’t have self regulation so there’s always going to be physical altercations.
However, true bullying not so much.
The lack of support for children with special needs (diverse learners) is potentially creating dangerous environments as teachers try to keep everyone safe.”

From a teacher who has spent time trying to improve outcomes at what would be considered lower decile establishments.
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July 11, 2022 9:33am
Bernard Black

On Friday I had too take a horse from Rotorua to Cambridge for My partner.
It was raining heavily, huge potholes were appearing in the roads.

There were several Facebook posts warning of potholes and 10 plus cars being on the roadside north of Taupo with flat tyres.

We dropped the horse off and were returning with the empty float, going up a passing lane just south of Karapiro we hit a pothole, back tyre blew out, no control, the float pushed us up a steep bank on the left and we rolled and were stuck upside down on the road in the pouring rain.

We are lucky to be alive, just cuts and bruises and and shock.
State highway one is a disgrace, reminds me of a Top Gear Africa special where they had to dodge huge potholes everywhere.

We are descending rapidly to third world conditions.
And it is costing lives, it almost cost My life and that of My partner and her daughter last Friday.

I didn’t think I could despise this Govt more, I was wrong.
https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2022/05/nzta_almost_spending_more_on_consultants_than_roads.html
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July 11, 2022 9:35am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  Yes, SH1 is a disgrace in the Far North too. The southern approach to Whangarei has been road works going nowhere for years now. The new Waikato Expressway is a disgraceful goat track surface especially the left hand lane the trucks mostly use. Dome valley is one long 50 km/h roadwork. Warkworth is an overloaded bottleneck. H&S has obviously tripled the cost of doing anything and moving road cones is clearly the most profitable transport industry.
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:49am
  - Bernard Black
    
    Yes we were in the left hand lane of a passing lane as we were doing 80km, obviously the lane most used by trucks hence the worst potholes in that lane.
    If the float had pushed us right rather than left I doubt I would be typing this or reading kiwiblog ever again
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:19am
- nathie
  
  Bernard – that’s truly frightening, glad your family survived and will hopefully heal in time (hope there are no lingering health issues).
  
  Yes the amount of wasteful spending on transport/roads/green alternatives by Labour (with the Greens/JAG promoting it) is truly despicable. These dangerous fools can’t be voted out soon enough.
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:50am
- Tony Stuart
  
  Glad to hear that you are largely uninjured Bernard.
  
  There was some work done recently at the intersection just down from our business. When they filled the large hole in the road (about three metres square), it was topped with hot mix, and the road was immediately reopened. Because the hot mix didn’t have time to properly consolidate before the traffic started flowing, there are now large gouges in the surface, and when I drove over it this morning it was as rough as guts; you certainly wouldn’t want to hit it on a bike or a motorcycle. Oh, for the good old days when road repairs, like so many things now not happening, were done properly!
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:08pm
- Fuzzysnuggleduck
  
  Holy Shit! That should be like criminal negligence on behalf of the roading authority.
  “Unified/Single Canoe”, I think the department is called.
  
  (Shows what you get when you put ‘Waka’ people in charge of vehicular transport and road construction).
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:33pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  Had the same experience heading north more or less in the same spot last year, apart from the crashing bit (no horse float). Pouring with rain, so no indication of the size of the potholes. A dozen cars by the side of the road in the next couple of ks, flatties or worse.
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:20pm
Rusty

So the president of Sri Lanka is running for his life because Sri Lankan’s want to lynch him (figure of speech I hope!) basically because he is a crook and has run their economy into the ground.

Contrast this in the last 2 years with conservative leaders in the USA, UK, Israel, and Aust getting the boot not because of mismanagement of their economies but because they have betrayed their own parties principles — and yes the corrupt left msm have all played a part in their downfalls.

But one has to ask the question — is right wing conservative politics in the west finished?
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July 11, 2022 9:52am
- Alan Wilkinson
  
  You haven’t noticed Biden’s approal ratings? Or Democrat polling?
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:51am
  - Rusty
    
    Alan – enough said of that cue card reading president the better. It’s obvious he is a puppet president who has people under him running the US.
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:38pm
- Rodion Raskolnikov
  
  “… is right wing conservative politics in the west finished?”
  
  Conservatism was killed off and replaced by libertarianism about 60 years ago. Why? Nobody cares about libertarians and the infantile abstractions of their doctrine, because it’s really just the dominant neo-liberalism. By contrast, a true right wing social conservative movement is a direct threat to the established liberal orthodoxy, because it is an antithetical set of ideas. So “is it finished”? No. On the contrary, it will be back, and with a vengeance, as things continue to fall apart.
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:17pm
  - Rusty
    
    Rodion — I shouldn’t have used the word ‘right wing’ but rather just ‘conservatism’ Right wing makes me think of nationalism /dictatorships.
    
    And the conservative/ Tory party is still in power in the UK so who knows what kind of PM replaces Boris.
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:34pm
    - Rodion Raskolnikov
      
      What is conservatism other than the paradigm model of right wing politics? The distinction between “left” and “right” dates to the time of the French Revolution, where the revolutionary Jacobins sat on the left of the assembly, while the conservative monarchists sat on the right.
      
      If conservatism is about rootedness, the nation, tradition, order and hierarchy (which it is), then libertarianism is about as far removed from this concept as it is possible to be. Because it is extremely socially liberal, libertarianism doesn’t at all fit into the category of “right wing.” As I suggested above, “right wing” has come to be equated with something like “libertarianism” (i.e. small government and do as you please), because changing what it meant to be right wing was the best way to neuter it. An authentic conservative right wing movement coming to prominence would be the death knell to failing neo-liberalism, which is why the political enemies of the Liberal World Order are, most prominently, conservative nationalist Christians.
      
      Traditional societies tended to be autocracies (reflecting the notion of hierarchy vs egalitarianism), whereby the autocrat/monarch ruled in the best interests of the people. A dictatorship in itself is less the issue than the nature of the ruling ideology. The National Socialists, the Italian Fascists and the Marist-Leninist Soviets were all dictatorships, but their doctrines were not at all comparable. It is arguable that our apparent liberal democracy has become less democracy and more oligarchy or plutocracy, with a thin veneer of popular participation but, in reality, a top-down imposition of globalism/neo-liberalism.
      
      In many ways, I’d actually rather an autocratic system that imposed the right values, than a democracy that gave us a society with all of the wrong ones.
      
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      July 11, 2022 3:25pm
      - mawm
        
        This is why I repeatedly state that ACT is NOT a rightwing party.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:46pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Here’s hoping Kemi Badenoch gets a crack at the job. She sounds like the first sensible politician I’ve heard in a few years. Luxon would do well to pay attention. The National Party in NZ is in a similar space to the Conservatives. This is part of an op-ed she had published in The Times.
      
      “It won’t be enough just to offer better management of relative decline. We need the discipline to transform government into an effective and streamlined machine for delivery, not a piggy bank for pressure groups. Rather than legislate for hurt feelings as we risk doing with the Online Safety Bill, we must strengthen our democratic culture at a time when democratic values are under assault from without and within. We need to reinvigorate the case for free speech, free markets and the institutions that defend a free people because our values and our ideas are too precious not to fight for with all our heart.”
      
      Ardern is driving the same policy as the UK “online harms bill” and a raft of other democracy eroding bills.
      
      https://dailysceptic.org/2022/07/09/anti-woke-warrior-princess-enters-conservative-leadership-race/
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:43pm
NeverMindTheBollocks

Good news: Susie Fergusson is leaving Moaning Report.

Dumb, foreign, uncertain lesbians of colour, please form an orderly queue.
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July 11, 2022 10:03am
- BeaB
  
  Thank good she’s going. Sounds like a fishwife from the Gorbals when she isn’t having silly giggly jokes with Corin.
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:06am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Another one that interviews themselves, just like the idiot John Campbell.
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:53am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    Oh Steve, you’re not forced to listen to RNZ as well as watch TVNZ are you? Is there no relief from such domestic terror?
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:59pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Speaker of the house tells me, Sonny.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:36pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      Sorry Ross, I forgot to say I upticked you.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:37pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  What about biological males who identify as lesbians? It’s very confusing these days……
  
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  July 11, 2022 4:44pm
ClanMcleod

While there are idiots like Baker and others trying to rekindle to insane corona fear porn, do yourself a favour and read rational comment about it. Lockdowns don’t work. Masks don’t work.

“The worst thing we could do, from an evolutionary perspective, is continue the mass containment regime. We want to keep SARS-2 circulating via direct contact in the community. All such respiratory viruses, despite their stark differences, have been subject to the same convergent evolution, with remarkably similar effects on their human hosts. We must stop intervening in matters we don’t understand, or we’ll just continue our recent history, of always making everything worse.”

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/from-wild-type-sars-2-to-omicron?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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July 11, 2022 10:26am
- Ross Campbell
  
  Who would pay $2 a month for Eugyppius when we have people like you posting all their brain farts on here for free?.
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:58am
  - All_on_Red
    
    You think Baker is an authorative source?
    Riiight- got it.
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:40am
  - Frank the tank
    
    Just lock yourself in your caravan Ross. You don’t want to get a mild flu like I did.
    
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    July 11, 2022 11:55am
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    So we have better experts like the pink terror, Baker, Hendy, Plank.
    Sorry Mike, that is a fail.
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:00pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    Who would pay $2 a month? Anybody who feels inclined to. That’s how free and democratic democracy is supposed to work. It certainly doesn’t have a “single source of truth” to get your information from nor a bought, owned and compromised mainstream media.
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:47pm
Inandout

While we toy with events on this tiny planet the wonders of the universe await us on Jul 12.
https://webbtelescope.org/news/first-images
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July 11, 2022 10:31am
ClanMcleod

Oh dear, I had coffee flying out of both nostrils after checking the latest post by el gato malo. If you have a hot drink in your hand put it down.
PS, it’s satire. Don’t tell me it’s “fake news”.

https://substack.com/redirect/2/
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July 11, 2022 10:32am
- Loddenthinks
  
  Whatever that link’s supposed to be, it doesn’t work.
  
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  July 11, 2022 9:05pm
iMP

Back to the state religion… RUGBY.

If we lose Saturday, the coach is gone.

We have to kick behind Ireland for territorial position, turn them around, win their line out, and attack in their 22 so we hoover up all the penalties as points on board.
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July 11, 2022 10:40am
- Piticus
  
  Could ‘Razor’ hold a duel role ?
  AB’s and Blackcaps.
  Just asking !
  
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  July 11, 2022 10:48am
  - mikenmildagain
    
    ‘duel role’
    As a second, or combatant?
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:56pm
    - Piticus
      
      ok – two (dual) roles !!!
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:00pm
- riffer
  
  I would tend to agree with you.
  
  Ian Foster has the unenviable win record of 69.57%. Only Laurie Mains (23 wins from 34 tests at 67.65%) holds a worse record as All Blacks coach in the World Cup era, but his team faced way better sides, albeit with Taine Randall, who was a pretty bad All Blacks captain.
  
  If you remove Ian Foster’s results against Tonga, Fiji and USA that winning record drops to 60%.
  
  I am surprised he’s still there, TBH.
  
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  July 11, 2022 4:48pm
iMP

Not enough Crusaders in the team ( my team). Who the hell wouldn’t start Jordan for the full game? And this over-elevated asst AB coach has a worse actual track record behind him than several other candidates.
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July 11, 2022 10:44am
- mikenmildagain
  
  Perhaps if Christchurch folk had prioritised building a seldom-used stadium over a never-used cathedral rugby folk would take your whingeing more seriously.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:55pm
  - Yabster
    
    If by “folk” you mean the left leaning Labour backed fwits that call themselves councillors for once you are correct…
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:02pm
BeaB

Hard-hitting interview by Corin Dann this morning. He relentlessly grilled Arden about the disastrous hospital and health crises and why we were in lockdown with far fewer deaths but not now when things are far worse. He refused to accept her lame response that it’s up to us to wear masks. He hammered home the incompetence and lack of delivery of her government on every major issue – poverty, housing, health, infrastructure. He had her on the back foot, blustering in a frantic word salad as she realised for once she was going to have to account for the catastrophic failings of her ministers.

And then I woke up. It was all a dream.
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July 11, 2022 11:04am
- H. Upmann
  
  You had me there B…..
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:54am
- nathie
  
  Damn! I thought those muppets were doing their job for a change (I mean how hard can it be – to do one’s job as a professional) … all the way until your last sentence!
  
  Anyway no doubt if it was Susie she would be agreeing with and just luvving the sound of Cindy’s responses!
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:01pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Jaspinda will face the music one day. With all of her failures and lies will the UN still want her?
  Maybe it is a prerequisite to be accepted?
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:12pm
Maggie Pie

One of the girls from tennis is very concerned about this…she retweets

Remember about this time last year when ‘ISIS BRIDE’ Suhayra Aden arrived back in the country with her 2 sprogs?

At the time, Cindy gave us her assurance “that authorities have used every level we have to make sure there is little-risk to New Zealanders” 🙁

Hmmm…..

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1545721717653647360
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July 11, 2022 11:20am
- Frank the tank
  
  On the Labour list probably
  
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  July 11, 2022 11:57am
  - alloytoo
    
    The Greens didn’t snap her up?
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:36pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Hasn’t that family moved in near you in Otahuhu?
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:52pm
UrbanNeocolonialist

[Posted on General Debate yesterday, but held up by moderation till late evening so few would have seen it. Reposting]
Data on a billion chinese citizens has been accidentally leaked by Shanghai police. Oops.

Most interesting thing about it is that it reveals true Chinese demographics – they have been officially lying about birth rates for decades when really they are falling into population collapse, their population is falling, their working age population is falling, and their child bearing population is plummeting precipitously. Only about 1/3rd as many kids being born as 50 year olds. A researcher compares the official numbers against what this data and other sources and indicators suggest is likely the reality:
https://twitter.com/fuxianyi/status/1545668143816839170

China is not going to take over the world given their demographic collapse and burden of enormous elderly population
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July 11, 2022 11:46am
- cmm
  
  I don’t think anyone was thinking China was going to take over in numbers. Their population had peaked and India is zooming ahead with Africa on the right trajectory to take over from both of them.
  
  Perhaps with this leak these Chinese population is tanking faster than expected. Maybe their demographic slump is 10 years ahead of where official numbers have placed them.
  
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  July 11, 2022 2:06pm
- NoCash
  
  I’ve read about the leak as well and also read people saying that the claim is a bit dubious as downloading almost 24TB of data via JSON without being detected by security or network is very doubtful.
  
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  July 11, 2022 2:47pm
curry4me

https://www.thedailyexaminer.co.nz/family-matters-outdoor-education-or-outdoor-indoctrination/
Family Matters: Outdoor Education or Outdoor Indoctrination.

When you send your children on an outdoor adventure camp or programme, you’re probably expecting that the activities will be based around water safety, abseiling, mountain biking, caving, canoeing, camping, environmental wellbeing, outdoor learning experiences, outdoor education. But a new curriculum by Education Outdoors New Zealand labelled “Going with the flow” is a gender fluidity indoctrination course for young boys and girls. Clara gives an analysis of the new “birds and the bees” in the outdoors.
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July 11, 2022 11:49am
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  This mental illness needs to be stopped. There are two genders.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:18pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    As a mate of my partner said the other night….
    “The best thing about right-wing women is they don’t have a penis”
    
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    July 11, 2022 12:32pm
    - Littletramp
      
      Love your work Maggie Pie!
      
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      July 11, 2022 1:02pm
    - MCōs
      
      There’s always Caitlyn Jenner
      
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      July 11, 2022 9:11pm
  - Ehlana
    
    Psychology Today has a rather sensible sounding explanation: All humans are born with biological characteristics of sex, either male, female, or intersex. Gender, however, is a social construct and generally based on the norms, behaviors, and societal roles expected of individuals based primarily on their sex. Gender identity describes a person’s self-perceived gender,
    (https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/basics/gender)
    
    Gender seems to be the current term for what used to be called stereotyping; notions like only girls cry or like sewing and only boys can play rugby or do maths. That kind of stereotyping is what feminists tried to get rid of at the end of the last century, so its a bit weird that it is now being embraced and promoted to define the transgender.
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:21pm
  - ClanMcleod
    
    It’s a worry, even the Church of England appear to be confused.
    
    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/07/10/church-of-england-says-it-doesnt-know-what-a-woman-is/
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:56pm
    - NeverMindTheBollocks
      
      Wot, even after Roe vs Wade?
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:59pm
- kowtow
  
  While they’re outdoors learning all things nature , I wonder how many ‘gender fluid’ birds, possums , deer ,etc they’ll encounter ……..
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:19pm
curry4me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_K_GjBbe1w

Supreme Court Uproots the Administrative State; Biden Calls to Drop Filibuster to Codify Roe V. Wade.

A Supreme Court ruling on the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) could reel in government overreach by restoring the constitutional process for creating laws. Agencies will now have a more difficult time when bypassing the legislative process to create regulations. This follows other recent rulings from the Supreme Court that bring back a more traditional interpretation of the constitution. This comes alongside several key rulings from the Supreme Court over the past few weeks that significantly impact issues that also include freedom of belief, gun control, abortion, and immigration.
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July 11, 2022 11:50am
Lee C

What a brilliant ‘Guest Post’ this would make on KB.

How Many Mistakes Does an Expert Have to Make Before They Are No Longer an Expert?
Our health service is in crisis, unable to cope, and all-cause mortality is running at record levels.
Ministry of Health data, released two days ago, shows that it is not due to Covid. This morning both main newspapers rushed to ask the experts.

In the NZ Herald, Associate Professor Dr. Siouxsie Wiles, frequent media commentator and expert on the bioluminescence of superbugs, said she was frustrated because:

“There wasn’t a critical mass of people using basic Covid-19 protections…such as RATs, masks, self-isolation and vaccines…I don’t understand why we aren’t using these measures we know work.”

Even though we are arguably the most highly vaccinated, tested, and masked nation in the world, apparently it isn’t enough for Dr. Wiles.

Epidemiologist Dr. Michael Baker often referred to as “New Zealand’s expert”, echoed Dr. Wiles when he called for more compulsory masking and a return to strict government-mandated lockdown orders.

Vaccine-champion Dr. Baker diverged from Wiles and additionally called for new vaccines to be produced (presumably ones that he imagined might actually work).

In Stuff newspaper, Covid Response Minister Dr. Ayesha Verrall said we are “flying blind,” and the situation is “getting more challenging.” The article summarised:

“Hospitals are under extreme pressure: In Northland, emergency department patients are being seen in corridors or treated in chairs. A woman who left an overloaded emergency department in Auckland due to an hours-long wait died, and Christchurch is reporting “all-time high” patient numbers.”

Dr. Verrall advised people to get masked up and boosted. Yes, Dr. Verall, but we already are.

Cellular immunologist Dr. Anna Brooks, who describes herself as a Long Covid advocate, joined the expert crowd in blaming Covid for our health woes but added the word ‘reinfection’, saying that 1% of Covid cases were reinfections.

Sorry Dr. Brooks, a 1% rate of Covid reinfections cannot be sinking our health service; that is a statistical impossibility.

Wellington epidemiologist and public health expert Dr. Amanda Kvalsvig also blamed Covid for our health woes and called for a high suppression strategy to protect our school system whereby we could hide at home while government workers bring us safely sanitized meals on wheels. An apparent adaptation of the unpopular and failing Chinese model.

NZ’s expert Dr. Baker elaborated—we need to “normalise the new normal” by launching “a new revolution in the air that we share.” We all need to follow suit for the foreseeable future by using high-quality, respirator-style masks. Did he mean aqualung suits? I’m not sure.

Dr. Baker described this as an “arms race.” The trouble is that no one knows who or what we are actually racing against.

If It Is Not Covid, What Is Going on?
Yesterday the Ministry of Health reported that just nine people in the whole of New Zealand are in intensive care for Covid—less than 4% of operative New Zealand intensive care beds.

In December last year, the government reported that we could triple ICU capacity at the drop of a hat should the need arise. Clearly, Covid hasn’t brought the New Zealand health service to its knees, so what has?

Dr. Verrall is right that we are flying blind.

As I reported two days ago, we are not being given the information we need to sort this out. Apparently, no one, including our Covid Response Minister, knows what people are crowding into hospitals for. We have no information on the rates of specific conditions.

If you have worked in food safety, you know that a little focused information gathering goes a long way. Dr. Verrall should know this; also, she received her expert qualification in tropical medicine, bioethics, and international health (yes, bioethics) at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Alabama University, and the Gorgas Institute in Peru, focusing on tuberculosis.

The health service is stretched, but Dr. Verrall can quickly get a handle on the situation by undertaking focused sampling of specific conditions at a single DHB or hospital.

This should give her (and us) a reliable indication of why people are being hospitalized or reporting sick to their GPs in record numbers. I’m not sure why she hasn’t already done this?

Aside from blaming Covid, Dr. Verrall also mentioned winter flu, although no one appears sure if this has even arrived yet.

The UK also has excess all-cause mortality at a rate very similar to ours, but they are not in flu season; the northern hemisphere is in the middle of summer.

Their official figures also reveal excess mortality is not due to Covid, but like us, rates of specific conditions have not been made available.

We are in the midst of a health crisis. We have introduced a novel biotech ‘vaccine’ which operates in a way never before used on the public. The safety trials were never completed and their integrity has been questioned.

The rates of adverse effects, including serious effects, are running at 50 times any previous vaccine. Published studies are questioning vaccine safety.

Studies point to reduced immunity. Excess all cause deaths are at record levels. Birth rates have dropped to record lows around the world. What is difficult about these clues?

We are being told to treat the New Zealand government as our one source of truth and advised not to stray into the uncharted territory of other ‘sources’ (???).

What do we do if the government pretends not to know and apparently doesn’t appear ready to find out?

Do you feel like me that we are being trained not to ‘read’? People who ‘read’ are being labelled as alien conspiracy theorists, naughty nerds, or even by our PM as terrorists about to start a war. Is this the modern NZ equivalent of book burning?

You don’t have to stray very far from the authorised government expert reading list to find evidence of the source of our health crisis.

If you dare, have a quick gander for example, at the Australian magazine Air Line Pilot October/November 2021 edition, a page 15 table reports one pilot died in 2019, 6 in 2020, and 111 in 2021. Pilots are vaccine mandated.

There is a similar mysterious rise in sudden deaths among sports people. Or go and ask funeral homes, the ACC, emergency responders, or insurance companies what is happening. They’ll tell you, even if Dr. Verrall can’t or won’t

Apparently, no one in the conventional medical system wants to blame a vaccine for anything, but when all other possible causes have been eliminated, you may have to bow to the inevitable and accept the need for careful evaluation through the collection and publication of detailed statistics across a very broad range of conditions. It’s the traditional and reliable way these things are worked out,

Come on Dr. Verrall, step up to the plate. Wittering on about “troubled times ahead” due to as yet unknown Covid variants doesn’t cut the expert mustard.

Move out from under the shadow of our all-knowing Prime Minister. The house is on fire. First of all identify exactly which house is on fire, and then get out the fire hoses.

Be brave, resilient, and silent no more!

Guy Hatchard
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July 11, 2022 12:02pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  “Guy Hatchard” LOL.
  When’s his next paper on yoga and transcendental meditation going to hit the market?.
  Can’t wait for another good laugh.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:31pm
  - kevn
    
    @ross… Rather than snide comments from you and the other few, Hatchard offers plenty of data backed information.
    Most of us on KB have a good laugh at you and the other few actually. Just downtick collectors.
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:44pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    Yes Mike
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:31pm
  - krazykiwi
    
    Again, Ross, we’re all waiting for your reasoned analysis but instead you indulge in ad hominem attacks. Why? Don’t you have anything sage to say?
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:35pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Sage? From Ross/Mike? Never ever because they/he/she/it don’t have the capacity for reasoned debate or constructive and rational discussion.
      I’ve come across some wearisome trolls in my time, but this one tops the lot.
      
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      July 11, 2022 5:07pm
- Cinematic
  
  Yet we know for a fact the number of people arriving in ED’s across the country are fairly normal. What isn’t normal is the lack of doctors and nurses due to poor management of the border and mandates. It’s entirely self inflicted.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:52pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  I’ve never understood why a specialist in bioluminescence is regarded as a specialist in virus transmission.
  
  I can only conclude it’s because journalists have no STEM knowledge & therefore don’t understand that there’s a difference.
  
  It’s a bit upsetting though that Souxie hasn’t put them straight. It’s almost as if she can’t resist the limelight.
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:43pm
  - Steve Otto(North Shore)
    
    How rude, how dare you?/
    
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    July 11, 2022 4:32pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  Ardern has been true to her words from 2 years ago. We will be “your single source of truth”.
  No other pov permitted. Pure propaganda blaring from every outlet. Paid for by taxpayer’s money.
  With every passing week, as the real world evidence emerges, it is clear that we are being lied to by these people. In today’s Herald a new “expert” from Auckland University pushing the 2nd booster. Why? They don’t work so why? Also pushing the mask bullshit. Why? They don’t work so why?
  
  Hendy and co at Te Punaha Matitini extensively referenced the flawed models from Neil Ferguson at Imperial College London. They did so as a badge of honour. Practically bragging that their models matched Ferguson’s. Hence the 80.000 deaths bullshit prediction.
  His models have been debunked a few times. This one is just the latest. The man is a complete fraud. The experts in NZ who basically copied his work are similarly frauds.
  
  https://dailysceptic.org/2022/07/10/its-difficult-to-see-how-anyone-could-be-more-wrong-new-code-review-of-neil-fergusons-amateurish-model/
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:29pm
- tf78
  
  I hope they’re going to be front at center at the upcoming Nuremburg trials.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:32pm
Maggie Pie

‘MAU RAKAU’

No money for more Nurses….but great to see the gubermint has just allocated half-a-mill to the ‘Maori Weaponry School’

TBH, getting a ‘NZ-Certificate-in-Level-4 Mau Rakau’ sounds a lot more fun than learning Te Reo.
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July 11, 2022 12:27pm
- graham
  
  “Maori Martial Arts”?
  
  https://www.twoa.ac.nz/nga-akoranga-our-programmes/maori-and-indigenous-arts/kawai-raupapa/certificate-in-maori-and-indigenous-art-mau-rakau
  
  Mau Rākau is a traditional Māori martial art and this unique programme gives you the opportunity to learn the ancestral practices, values and protocols of the warrior. Have fun in an inclusive learning environment while you develop a specialised skill set, and help to preserve the rich culture and art of the warrior.
  
  38 weeks full-time study – No fees
  
  So you get to run around playing at being a Maori ninja on the taxpayer’s dollar.
  
  Give me strength …
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:48pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Maybe they’re making preparations for decolonization? 🙁
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:36pm
    - ClanMcleod
      
      Boom sticks still beat ninjas apparently……..
      
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      July 11, 2022 5:09pm
    - tf78
      
      Great, we can start all over again and offer them muskets and blankets in exchange for land.
      
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      July 11, 2022 8:29pm
  - Nickc2
    
    This is beyond rediculous FFS
    IMO, this is nothing more than dreamed up Bull Shit!
    In the so-called age of inclusiveness, when is this Govt going to introduce and pay for similar training for Non-Maori?
    What do Maori need this training for? They already have most of the illegal guns and an already available fighting force with their semi-legalised gangs (remember them, they’re the ones the Govt uses to set up and monitor Road Blocks).
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:20pm
    - riffer
      
      More racist stereotyping. Where is your evidence that Maori possess most of the illegal guns in New Zealand?
      
      You are starting to sound like a scared little white man. One of those types who ends up joining a gun club and one day going feral on the population in some kind of mad ethnic cleansing terrorism.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:54pm
      - than
        
        He’s not blaming Maori, it’s just that they’re the ones most likely to be in a gang as they’re the majority of gang members and practically all the gangs have illegal firearms. You hear of a new shooting every day. Can’t you see the evidence?
        
        The second paragraph is hyperbole. I bet you think Christopher Luxon is a lunatic as he wants to crack down on gangs going feral?
        
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        July 11, 2022 5:47pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Because gangs have illegal guns.
        
        many gangs.
        
        Maori make up most of gangs.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:55pm
      - Nickc2
        
        You’re a sick puppy riffer (if you’re not a Frazer House Troll).
        FYI, I was in the NZ Military for probably longer than you have been alive and have used more guns
        than you have probably seen and in situations that you could not imagine. Many of the people I served with identified as Maori and would turn in their graves if they knew the direction Maori such as yourself were attempting to take this country called New Zealand.
        
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        July 11, 2022 7:11pm
    - Drone
      
      High @Nickc2 eventally there will be no ammunition for the guns we have so the team will need the ability to fight with traditional maori weapons..
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:13pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  You can’t expect everything, Maggie. Were you not happy with your boost in the minimum wage? Most night-fill operators were.
  
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  July 11, 2022 12:48pm
  - Maggie Pie
    
    Can’t take it eh milkey…looks like you get another free-hit!
    
    (You can always report this as well if you want. LOL!! )
    
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    July 11, 2022 1:57pm
  - DimChappie
    
    Dear Mike, do you think there is something wrong with doing nightfill work? You seem to be trying to insult someone with this suggestion.
    
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    July 11, 2022 2:24pm
    - Maggy Wassilieff
      
      Yep
      Typical faux supporter of the working class.
      
      Thank goodness we still have nurses such as Maggie pie to handle the night shifts.
      
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      July 11, 2022 3:40pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        Oh dear, Maggy, why so bitter?
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:42pm
    - Steve Otto(North Shore)
      
      One day Mike may need a ‘first responder’
      I have.
      
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      July 11, 2022 4:41pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        I wouldn’t like to bore you with my medical history, Steve, but I’m glad you’re still with us.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:48pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I’m just amused at Maggie Pie’s obviously bogus pretensions to a high life, which varies so markedly from her actual circumstances.
      I seem to recall a Kiwiblog commenter a few yeats ago always boasting about his car and boat. He was, rightly, ridiculed too.
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:41pm
      - Benedict Yu
        
        Yeah nah 🙂 You don’t know she is bogus.
        
        And I don’t see much ridiculing going on.
        
        And yeah she can be a bit annoying…
        
        .. but she is more entertaining than annoying…
        
        .. so I don’t care if she is bogus…
        
        .. she is not the maniac destroying New Zealand.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:46pm
      - mikenmildagain
        
        That’s ok Benedict. You can focus on what you want from Kiwiblog and I’ll carry on with my little hobby. Harmless entertainment.
        
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        July 11, 2022 6:51pm
      - Maggie Pie
        
        Jealousy is a terrible disease milkey.
        
        Get well soon 😀
        
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        July 11, 2022 7:32pm
- Harry Knuts
  
  so if this “sport” hits the olympics and other countries take it up will they be seen as culturally insensitive?
  just saying..
  
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  July 11, 2022 3:28pm
graham

So this just popped up on my Facebook:

NZ International Comedy Festival

We’ve got another six outrageously funny comics joining the ever-growing lineup of the biggest night of comedy brought to you by @bestfoodsnz, coming to Auckland and Wellington this September.

Introducing the panel-show prodigy Hayley Sproull and the man with the mic, Guy Williams. Joining our Wellington lineup are worldwide popstars Two Hearts, and character queen Brynley Stent. Plus, taking to the stage in Auckland, the internationally funny Urzila Carlson and the ever-hilarious Nick Rado. Join us for a laugh-packed evening brought to you by Best Foods mayo!

Judging by the comments, not too many people are that impressed by references to “funny” and “Guy Williams” in the same article … I suspect the “NZ International Comedy Festival” might be opening themselves up to accusations of false advertising.
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July 11, 2022 12:54pm
- NeverMindTheBollocks
  
  ‘Brought to you by Best Foods Mayo’ – funniest line in the whole advert.
  
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  July 11, 2022 1:45pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Wonder if Hayley Sproull is related to Ryan Sproull, an one-time regular around these parts?
  
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  July 11, 2022 2:51pm
- alex Masterley
  
  Lost me at Guy williams.
  
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  July 11, 2022 4:32pm
Maggie Pie

TRENDING NOW… (vid)

Yuge supermarket in the Netherlands owned by the ‘Bill-Gates-Foundation’ and specializing in new-age plant based meats, spontaneously burst into flames overnight!

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1546284131729829888

(Not a lot of love lost in the comments either)
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July 11, 2022 1:47pm
- mikenmildagain
  
  Maggie’s just jealous that she has to work in a supermarket rather than owning one.
  
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  July 11, 2022 2:21pm
  - Benedict Yu
    
    I have to wonder how you can go on for years being the most ‘snarky’ (I had to look it up) and hated commentator on this blog.
    
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    July 11, 2022 6:48pm
    - mikenmildagain
      
      I wonder at the mentality of many Kiwiblog commenters too.
      
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      July 11, 2022 6:53pm
    - Maggie Pie
      
      You’re exactly right Bene…
      Milkey never contributes anything of value here.
      He’s just a woman-hating old queen from way back that can’t help himself.
      
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      July 11, 2022 7:17pm
- krazykiwi
  
  Apparently they have a garage filled with EV delivery vehicles. They burn quite nicely, and lend a helping lick of flame to surrounding items too.
  
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  July 11, 2022 2:48pm
David Garrett

Whaddya mean he’s back? He never leaves…he just logs in using one of his several identities

DISCLOSURE: 38 Years ago I also obtained another identity (Just to save Milky Bar reminding everyone)
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July 11, 2022 1:53pm
Maggie Pie

My partner put his ear up by it last night.
Reckoned he could smell the ocean.
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July 11, 2022 3:01pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  As long as he didn’t get the salt sea spray at the same time…….
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:15pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Trump going to let Bannon loose in the kangaroo hearing? You can skip Will’s 2 hours.
https://uniteamericafirst.com/trump-waives-bannon-through-to-testify-on-j6-committee/?
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July 11, 2022 3:37pm
krazykiwi

Here’s Lenin’s achievements in the 6 years and 2 months between November 1917 to January 1924

 More than a million people murdered for political or religious reasons.
 Between 300,000 and 500,000 Cossacks killed.
 Hundreds of thousands of workers and peasants killed for striking.
 240,000 killed in the suppression of the Tambov rebellion.
 More than 50,000 white prisoners of war executed.
 Between 3.9 million and 7.75 million deaths from famines among Russians, Kazakhs and Tatars.

Any guess which current, western global figure looks up to Lenin as a role model?
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July 11, 2022 4:40pm
- Steve Otto(North Shore)
  
  Coming to a place near us soon.
  Takes a while, but all good things take time//
  Apologies to the cheesemakers/
  
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  July 11, 2022 4:47pm
- Ross Campbell
  
  Viktor Orban?
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:11pm
Steve Otto(North Shore)

Hey Jaspinda. Tell me why this would not work in New Zealand, or that R. T. Rower place. https://rumble.com/v1ak6x5-brazil-loosened-their-gun-control-laws-liberals-never-expected-what-happene.html?
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July 11, 2022 4:50pm
- ClanMcleod
  
  The first comment nailed it.
  
  “The left will never get the concept that criminals don’t follow gun laws.”
  
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  July 11, 2022 5:18pm
Maggie Pie

And just heard ‘The Herald’s’ political editor Clare Trevett speaking on ZB.
Can’t believe how OLD she sounds!
Maybe it’s an early photo they still run on her profile page?
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July 11, 2022 5:01pm
- Bluegrass
  
  So nothing on what she actually said – just the usual lightweight catty remark.
  
  But no surprises here.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:05pm
- tf78
  
  She sounds like her teeth are rattling around her mouth.
  
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  July 11, 2022 8:13pm
surfing

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-port-wharf-extension-court-case-adjourned-to-2023/TFKTABFUFO2KPGGG4BBA23OZBQ/

What’s the bet the port wasn’t willing to give the maoris what they wanted?

The port’s dredging project was a disgusting example of maori abusing the treaty to scam legitimate businesses.
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July 11, 2022 5:45pm
greybeard

https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/129238773/waimate-farmer-plans-another-shot-young-farmer-of-the-year-title
Hey Foster ! Put these young, intelligent chaps into the AB’s .
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July 11, 2022 5:51pm
ClanMcleod

Munchausen’s by proxy: the UN & WEF made the world ‘sick’ for profit –

“Our planet is not sick.

It is being made to look sick so that bureaucrats, politicians, bankers, mining giants, and big business can profit from the abuse of power that the fear of death brings. This behaviour may even result in actual damage as the dismantling of economic systems brings poverty, chaos, and hunger to once thriving nations.

The falsification of Earth’s apocalyptic diagnosis has to be shouted from every school, news broadcast, parliament, and street corner – otherwise no one would know it was happening.

This is necessary, because without widespread belief in the terminal illness of ‘Climate Change’ none of the catastrophic and authoritarian overreach dreamt up in Brussels or a Davos ski lodge would be accepted. When the public ask why their democracy, lives, and liberty must be destroyed, they are told ‘it is to save the planet’.

‘Capitalism kills – and communism is the answer!’ Insist the climate fascists, as their bank accounts swell.”

https://spectator.com.au/2022/07/munchausens-by-proxy-the-un-wef-made-the-world-sick-for-profit/
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July 11, 2022 6:52pm
ClanMcleod

Legendary sportsman and a man of great principle. His bodily autonomy more important than having the chance to be the greatest tennis player of all time. No title would make him change his mind.
He is the greatest tennis player of all time.
He explains his choice in this BBC interview, calmly, rationally and with great aplomb.
He’s just won Wimbledon. He would have won the Australian Open. Nadal would not be leading the Grand Slam table if this medical discrimination had not happened.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60354068
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