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Cassandra

A new political party has been registered, named Free Palestine.

In 1948 UN Resolution 181 established the state of Israel.

One of the FPP’s six founding principles is “The primacy of UN resolutions.”. Another is “A single state in the whole of Palestine” ie the dissolution of Israel.

Sometimes your right hand doesn’t know what your left hand is doing.

The FPP announcement of its registration includes a claim that it now gets a grant of $82,000 from the Government.
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August 11, 2026 8:01am
- pdm
  
  And the Leadership of this new Party rests with?
  
  Let me guess.
  
  John Minto – or is he just the chief agitator behind the scenes?
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:07am
- artemisia
  
  While the FPP has completely the opposite intentions to the similarly named party in Victoria Australia the end result could be similar. That is, draw party votes away from other parties, the Green Party in particular.
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:11am
  - David George
    
    The Free Palestine Party in Victoria was started by Jewish conservative Avi Yemeni to send the mindless Muslim loving muppet vote to no-mans- land.
    Next level trolling.
    
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    August 11, 2026 8:21am
- Yvette
  
  The Free Palestine Party (officially the Palestine Free from the River to the Sea Party) has completed its registration in New Zealand to contest the 2026 general election. Led by Paul Hopkinson, the party centers its platform on Palestinian solidarity, accountability for war crimes, and an independent foreign policy
  
  “From the River to the Sea Party”
  Calls for elimination: Critics, Israeli groups, and advocacy bodies view the phrase as hate speech or antisemitic. They argue it calls for the destruction of Israel and the removal of its Jewish people.
  Groups like Hamas and the PFLP have used the phrase in their charters and statements to mean the complete replacement of Israel with a Palestinian state.
  
  Minor aside: Will the From the River to the Sea Party may make world headlines which combined with Winston’s racist remarks should increase immigration, tourism and terrorist attacks.
  Free From the River to the Sea Party, however is a catchy little slogan / name
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:21am
  - Gravelroad
    
    Is this a wind-up?
    
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    August 11, 2026 8:37am
    - alex Masterley
      
      Bope. I checked the register of political parties. it is there all right.
      
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      August 11, 2026 8:40am
    - Yvette
      
      Gravelroad – Is this a wind-up?
      
      On August 5, 2026, the New Zealand Electoral Commission officially approved the registration of the party, commonly referred to as the Free Palestine Party or Palestine Free from the River to the Sea Party
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Palestine_Party_(New_Zealand)#:~:text=The%20Free%20Palestine%20or%20Palestine%20Free%20from,Anti%2DZionism.%20MPs%20in%20the%20House%20of%20Representatives.
      
      Although the party’s registration was approved, the Electoral Commission declined its proposed logo, determining that the logo design was likely to mislead electors or cause confusion regarding official foreign representation or endorsements
      
      While a number of submitters raised concerns about the party using the words ‘Free from the River
      to the Sea’, the Commission when determining the registration of a party name must consider the
      party name rather than party positions, slogans, and possible campaign material connected with
      a party that electors may find offensive. There are other examples, past and present, where
      contentious issues-based parties have been registered and the Commission has not found that
      the party name is offensive.
      https://elections.nz/assets/pagecomponent-file-files/Party-and-logo-registration-decisions-August-2026.pdf.
      
      No
      
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      August 11, 2026 8:50am
Yvette

Hipkins finally rules out NZ First over ‘overt racism’ — and gets a scathing response from Peters
“I can absolutely confirm today that it’s not going to change. New Zealand First and Labour will not be working together. A vote for New Zealand First is a vote for Christopher Luxon to continue as Prime Minister. And a vote for Christopher Luxon is a vote for Winston Peters to still be a minister.” – Hipkins

“Why the media aren’t lambasting him for “ruling NZ First out” after we ruled him out four years ago, then again twelve months ago, and repeatedly done so every month when answering the same stupid questions, is beyond a joke,“ [Winston Peters] wrote on social media.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/361018286/chris-hipkins-finally-rules-out-working-nz-first

Apparently statements by Chris Hipkins, Winston Peters, Christopher Luxon, or any other political leader regarding who they will or will not work with are purely political commitments. No leader is legally bound by what they say before an election, and none could be sued or legally restrained from changing their position later if post-election numbers or circumstances dictate it.
What a bugger.
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August 11, 2026 8:01am
- pdm
  
  Yvette – to my knowledge Peters has only ruled out working with a Labour Party led by Hipkins.
  
  Peters is well capable of manipulating Labour to dump Hipkins after the Election so he can negotiate 18 months as Prime Minister with the new leader – probably McAnulty.
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:11am
  - Yvette
    
    Yes, pdm, the last time this came up, after Peter had sworn to remain “on the cross benches” he went with whom he chose but claimed the decision saved the expense of another Election.
    
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    August 11, 2026 8:25am
burt

Chris Bishop blocks Gisborne council plan to tackle forestry slash and erosion

So predictable that a politician would be compromised to the point of looking after forestry company interests before looking out for the best interests of NZ people.

Shame on you Chris Bishop. The people expected better. Was it your own forestry shares that swayed your judgement or was it big business donors you couldn’t afford to upset?
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August 11, 2026 8:04am
- Nikola Donatello
  
  Does Chris Bishop own shares in forestry companies? If so, in principle, that is an issue of public interest. If he does not, that may be a libellous statement.
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:11am
- pdm
  
  ` Was it your own forestry shares that swayed your judgement or was it big business donors you couldn’t afford to upset?’
  
  Burt are you implying that Bishop is National’s Michael Wood?
  
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  August 11, 2026 8:13am
  - Nikola Donatello
    
    This article from 2023 lists the share holdings of Chris Bishop. No forestry shares. More importantly, he states that he will sell all shareholdings if he becomes a minister.
    
    https://newsroom.co.nz/2023/06/21/mps-agree-theyll-sell-off-shares-if-thats-the-price-of-power/?utm_source=perplexity
    
    I don’t have time to confirm that he did so. However no forestry shares anyway.
    
    Might be time to withdraw and apologise. 😅
    
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    August 11, 2026 8:25am
    - burt
      
      OK, so looking after the foresty company best interests wasn’t motivated by his own share holdings.
      
      So we still don’t know why he is happy to let the forestry companies walk away leaving a disaster for the locals?
      
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      August 11, 2026 8:32am
Tomtoddy

Denmark is one of the few if not the only country that taxes land value at a national level and doesn’t tax improvements which is what the Opportunity party proposes for us. Denmark has multiple rates for different types of land. That in itself creates confusion and litigation.

It means valuation disputes arise when:
– market prices rise faster than official valuations
– landowners argue valuations are too high
– the state argues valuations are too low and importantly for New Zealand’s case – peri‑urban land has speculative value but no development rights

TOP is proposing just two quite disparate rates – urban and rural. What happens to land close to cities that is not farmed or not farmed fully but has no buildings, maybe in a land bank?

It’s enough to make a lawyer smile.
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August 11, 2026 8:28am
pdm

`It’s enough to make a lawyer smile.’

Not to mention every Chartered Accountant in New Zealand.
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