Christchurch March
On behalf of the organisers:
DEMOCRACY UNDER THREAT
Protest March Victoria Square to Cathedral Square
Wednesday 28 November 12.30. March starts 1.00pm.
Organiser of the Auckland and
The last week has seen the most blatant display of political hypocrisy in the nation’s history. At a time when MPs have voted themselves more of your money to express their views, your right to express your own views will be gagged. If this Bill becomes law NZ will have the most restrictive electoral law in the western world.
The New Zealand Human Rights Commission called the bill ‘inherently flawed’ and its provisions a ‘dramatic assault’ on the rights you cherish. Its call on the government to withdraw this bill has been ignored.
Its time to stand up and be counted!
Be there this Wednesday at Victoria Square by 12.30!
Authorised by
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 am
I’ll be there!
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 am
Are there any plans to have a march in Dunedin?
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
When”s Hamiltons turn ??
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm
See you there.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:10 pm
I understand there will be another Auckland one, and there may be transport provided for people to come up from Hamilton for it.
I do not know of anything for Dunedin.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
“I do not know of anything for Dunedin.”
Roger Nome will be disapointed
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Judging by the Wellington turnout Nick, he’d be the only person there
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Go for it CHCH.
I have a theory that due to natural conservatism, a better work ethic and an ingrained disdain of the rent-a-mob propensities of the left, each person that turns up at these anti-EFB marches is worth at least 10 of the WINZ supported indolent marxist types that appear every time there is a pseudo-cause that calls for the mobilisation of the usual “placard fodder”.
Hence the Auckland march netted 20-30,000 Left-Wing Equivalents(LWE).
Wellington 3-5000 (LWE).
Lets see if Christchurch can break the record.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Perhaps John can work with regional organisers and have one saturday with synchronised rallies in all major centers. Imagine rallies at the same time in Auckland, Wellington. Christchurch, Dunedin and Hamilton?
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 pm
I’m curious, how many of those who would participate in this march actually take a lunch break during their average working day? It seems to me that by having it in the middle of the week it’s doing more harm to the idea than good.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Yes lunchtime , maybe I could do a night fish and feed everybody fresh whitebait patties to lure the punters , nothing like bribery to beat down a nasty old dyke witch and her twisted eunuchs .
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:34 pm
What Pascal said. We’re not lefties with all the time in the world – it’s silly to expect opponents of this bill to show up when most of them are hard at work. Or blogging. LOL
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Yeah well, blogging you can do while having a cup of coffee, etc. You need a micro break every 40 minutes (?). I can’t remember what was proscribed when my hands locked up.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I think it is the ‘politeness’ and general ‘niceness’ of the EFB protests that has allowed detractors to continue to ridicule them. I would suggest that the march use this occasion to make some high-impact media satements. You know the usual stuff – burning papier-mache effigy of Helen, air-horns, megaphones, music (loud) lots of leaflets, lots of noise, lots of shouting.
Use the media to publicise the march, raher than just have it there to ‘report’ The more shamefaced’ and self-deprecating the marches are, the more creedence it adds to the protest being a National lead plot to buy elections. Make it loud and proud!
The ‘left’ will be waiting for the next one, complete with hijacking tactics and such ike, to underpin their view that the protest is ridiculous. Evidently the protest is not being taken seriously.
Otherwise you will invite ridicule because the protest will seem to have ‘kick me’ pasted onto it.
Just got for it. Me? I’ll back at headquarters, enjoying a whiskey while I watch you brave troops go in…. Solidarity Reg!
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:02 pm
John was on the radio this morning He is organising another march in Auckland for Saturday 1st Decemeber starting at 2.30pm from the Town hall. this is to cater for those who didnt attend the first and alos thsoe who find saturday mornings too hard with running kids around to sports events etc.
Not something that the Dearly beloved Heavenly Leader nor (cough) spouse would have any knowledge of.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm
Lee C agree As one who marched in Auckland we were too polite by far . Even to the extent of chatting to the Police in hand . As we know the Socialist including CLark and Goff used to scream PIGS and far worse at the Police in the Vietnam marches How do I know Cause I was there and saw them
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:09 pm
I was at the back of the Wellington march, so was not aware of the “contras” until we got to parliament. A representative of theirs was invited to speak and their participation added to the jovial atmosphere. Also amusing were the greens supporters shouting “traitor” at Fitzy when she pushed herself forward to speak! What a potty mouth she was, was that to gain media attention?
I suspect that the turn out was smallish due to the fact that the guvmnt is a big employer in this town! As a “first timer” I did not know what to expect. I WAS relieved that I avoided being wacked in the head with a megaphone! LOL!
It was a shame that John Boscawen was unable to attend after putting so much of his time and effort in to this issue and the marches.
It was pleasing to talk to others on the march and discover that no one seemed to advocate beating children or stoning single mums! Most just wanted to be left alone to pay their taxes, visit their grandchildren, light their own fireworks and play bowls!
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:11 pm
ps Why don’t the bill’s supporters have a march of their own? Then they could feel free to remove their masks and stop acting anonymously! LOL.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:14 pm
“..I have a theory that due to natural conservatism, a better work ethic and an ingrained disdain of the rent-a-mob propensities of the left, each person that turns up at these anti-EFB marches is worth at least 10 of the WINZ supported indolent marxist types that appear every time there is a pseudo-cause that calls for the mobilisation of the usual “placard fodder”.
Hence the Auckland march netted 20-30,000 Left-Wing Equivalents(LWE).
Wellington 3-5000 (LWE)…”
heh-heh..!..)
reg said that…and he gets this months award..(for something..!..)
‘the suits’ march/’get angry’..eh..?
(what a laff..!..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 pm
“At a time when MPs have voted themselves more of your money to express their views, your right to express your own views will be gagged.”
Is this in reference to the wage hikes?
Because if it is, I think most people know that MPs themselves don’t vote on their own wage increases…
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
david c And for the same reason the MPs should not be voting on this issue It is a clear conflict of interest but sadly the SC refused to see my point even though they all knew it was.
the matter concerns them directly.
Just a Directors of PLCs dont get to decide their remuneration and nit take part in any decisions where they are conflicted.
So why shouldnt the same rules apply to these waste of oxygens.
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:47 pm
My husband came on the Wellington march with me. He said that everyone who he spoke to in his office etc, said they wished they had marched as well.
Although numbers were down on Auckland I think we have certainly helped to keep the EFB highly visible this week. It has a lot of coverage on talkback.
It is part of our psyche as NZers not to complain but it is also part of of our history to uphold the democratic rights of individuals by, for example being the first country in the world to give women the vote.
DON’T LET ONE WOMAN TAKE THOSE RIGHTS AWAY FROM US NOW!!!
It’s time to standup and be counted. And if you have never marched before, I can highly recommend it
November 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pm
Can we please have a march in Dunedin – a Labour “stronghold”. We have 3 (sorry, now reduced to 2) Cabinet Ministers here (again this may reduce to 1 very shortly). A march in Dunners would send a strong message to Labour…………
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pm
( a march in dunedin..?..)
keep it coming..!..keep it coming..!
didn’t you know that ‘tight-fisted socialist’..was first coined/penned about a dunedin leftie-scot..?
(they’ll be having none of that doon there..!..)
and hey..!..democracymum..!
if you really want some demo-thrills/jollies..?
how about a march in kaitaia..?
at noon..on benny-day..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:08 pm
the audience should/would be sullen..yet interactive..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Hey philus ; how about a March in your drugged up head as there are millions of neurons nerds scattered everywhere inside your head case study unit .
First draft sir . Aim – fire – splat ! done two tours
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm
I’m going to do the same email exhortation to all my Chch contacts. I was reading an article written by David Horowitz here in the US (author of an excellent book exposing the left’s infiltration of universities called “The Professors”). David was raised in a prominent Marxist family in San Francisco and was a thorough far lefty before seeing the light and he now exposes the tactics of the left on US campuses.
The left use the same tactics the world over. Very few of them are interested in genuine mature dialogue or debate. Those who support the EFB at these marches were content to utter slogans and put downs through megaphones (free speech soon to be outlawed) and seemed non-plussed by the opportunity to actually stand before a crowd and make an articulate case for their position. The preferred tactic is to use invective and pigeon-holing slogans (like racist, homophone, fascist etc).
Horowitz recently led a campaign across multiple US campuses called Islamo-fascist Awareness Week. This campaign invited a number of experts in this field but their speeches were invariable given on campuses amidst tight security and cohorts of yelling students sent to disrupt the meetings. Conservative speakers on campuses are routinely attacked and physically assaulted, had pies/water thrown at them, had speeches drowned out by vociferous protests designed to shut them down and almost always were the victim of feeble to non-existent security or protection from campus authorities. Leftists like Ward Churchill can go to any campus in America and call the people who died in 9/11 “little Eichmanns” and be hailed as a hero and no one from the right ever resorts to the vicious and anti-free speech tactics of those on the left when he speaks thus respecting his 1st Amendment right to free speech however repugnant.
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pm
Back to the waccy baccy philu old chap!
Thought I’d upset a few of your type.
The simple fact is most hard working aspirational NZers are extremely busy people.
Thats why it’s a lot more difficult to arrange a March that opposes left wing totalitarianism, that to get hundreds of “sickness beneficiaries” (shifted by Labour from the Dole) to to charge through town screaming “I hate George Bush.”
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Yes I want a march in Dunedin also, lets organise it, although I wouldn’t know where to start I’m keen to help. One of those hard working kiwi’s that finds it hard to get away from work to protest, gotta pay the morgage, as well as petrol, milk, butter now – what’s with that? They used to dump milk!
Anyway, the need to protest is a no brainer as far as i’m concered, in your face corruption by the govenment, and the arrogance of legislating away some more of our rights at the same time! Lets start in the Octagon, and depending on how many we get, some can go north to Hodgenson’s office and some south to DBP’s. Or we could stay put and educate all those having a drink on thier lunch break.
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:42 pm
I will be joining the counter-protest. Maybe we’ll have even more than the 10 people that will show!
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm
neontiger, instead of running a counterprotest (with the aim of disrupting our protest) why don’t you just run a support march entirely independently, and on a different day? Why do you need to be a “hater and wrecker” instead of organising your own stuff?
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Because in 2005 Young National gatecrashed one of our events.
November 23rd, 2007 at 4:53 pm
PaulL Says:
“neontiger, instead of running a counterprotest (with the aim of disrupting our protest) why don’t you just run a support march entirely independently, and on a different day? Why do you need to be a “hater and wrecker” instead of organising your own stuff?”
neontiger Says:
“Because in 2005 Young National gatecrashed one of our events.”
Interpretation of Snivelling Socialism 101
“Because in 2005 more people gave you right wing bastards more money than they gave us even though we stole from the public and pilfered the poor dumb bastards who were stupid enough to join a union and we will never forgive you”
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:12 pm
No someone from Young National stood next to the PM and at the top of his lungs screamed at her through a megaphone.
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:25 pm
oh grow up neontiger, two wrongs don’t make a right. I don’t support Labour, I don’t support National, left and right, too black and white for me.
Regardless of which political party promotes it, this bill is wrong. It needs to be scrapped, simple as that.
November 23rd, 2007 at 5:39 pm
At least he showed due respect for the rule of law by only screaming, if he was a snivelling socialist like Len he would have hit her.
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:28 pm
I can’t begin to imagine the psychological scarring that neontiger must have experienced. Lenin’s years in exile, Hitler in the the trenches, Mao’s great march, all those climactic experieinces from which some of the most influential political changes of the twentiteth century emeerged – chickenfeed compared to what neontiger had to endure – in 2005.
My goodness, how did you get it together again after that?
You knock yourself out, neontiger. Show the world you ain’t afraid.
Put it on a placard:
‘Remember ’05!!!’
or something.
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Prehaps old pig trotter will be there, he’s always writing about the great marchs, espeacially about those the left participate in, no doubt the idiot thinks he’s Mao on the great cultural march when he prints his shit in the papers. I see he now refurs to thoses marching as the “owning classes” as they are the 20% ( by his figues ) that will buy votes with their evil wealth. Poor old pig trotter just can not except that ordinary kiwis not attached to the public tit find his system of government and his mangy Dear Leader corrupt,evil and downright nasty.
November 23rd, 2007 at 7:51 pm
The Wellington March merely reinforced the emphasis on the fundamental differences between that sorry town and the rest of N.Z. The fact that we marched with dignity and pride in Auckland would show to most people just how out of touch with reality that Wellingtons rabble rousers are. I am confident that Christchurch will provide a 2nd opportunity for fed up Mum Dad Kiwis to demonstrate their distaste at the blatant attack on individual rights of ordinary and respectable NZers
Catwoman and Maynard what are you waiting for? An invitation !!!
November 23rd, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Heck the anarchists had a better turn out when they marched against racism.
November 23rd, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Only cause the bloody anarchists dont have to go to work cause us dumb middle NZ sheeple are out working our arse’s off to pay their benefits for them! Thats if we have any cash left after the snivelling socialist scumbag gummint have screwed our arse’s to promote their red rainbow future!!!
November 23rd, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Anyway have you got over the filthy capitalist screaming at dear leader yet through his (soon to be banned) megaphone or are you still snivelling into your little red hanky with picture of Helen on it?
November 23rd, 2007 at 9:23 pm
In Wellington where the web of influence is close by, self interest far outweighs self reliance.
Keep your head down and out of sight is usually the only defense.
That is, until election time. Then it is your chance to get back a little respect.
November 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 pm
Reg – why don’t you just come out and say that votes should be counted in the same way you outlined earlier…
We know thats what you think…
November 24th, 2007 at 12:23 am
You know counter protests often get more media coverage than the actual protest. I can see you all know this too otherwise everyone wouldn’t be so twitchy.
November 24th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
Just watched the news it didn’t mention anything
November 25th, 2007 at 5:24 am
The best definition of madness I know is “doing the same failed thing over and over again while expecting a different result”
Give it up chaps, face the facts, you don’t do marches well.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:46 am
Sonic,
I dont think marches go well anywhere in the world where the marchers have something to truly fear from the Government thay are protesting against.
How many public servants would dare march today with this venal lot in power?
November 25th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
So does anybody know how many people turned up ?
November 25th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Obviously not
November 25th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Can’t move in Wellington CBD without tripping over public servants. Oddly enough there appeared to be nil marching there last week… even though i know plenty of them (my clients!) who are quietly spitting tacks at the EFB and political manipulation evident in their departments.
So not marching… out of self interest? Perhaps.
But not marching because of a need for self preservation – Definitely!
November 25th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
The power of money and the fact everyone of the politicized public servant bureaucracy couldn’t March because they would be sacked for Christmas on the dole and living on a park bench by midday, as Auntie Helen controls the pubic servant puppet show . Hell I’m glad I don’t have to live under the spell of a witched witch . Hypocrites and jellyfish state servants bow to her enormous power of control . No wonder the egalitarian is a dying breed under this Klark regime !!