More candidates

March 26th, 2008 at 8:40 am by David Farrar

The list of major 2008 candidates has been updated, and it now includes hyperlinks to a website or blog for the candidate. Thanks to Carl H for his help in converting my excel file to some neat HTML.

If you have the names of any missing , please let me know. And if a candidate has a website I am not linked to, send that through.

has two more candidates. was selected a couple of days ago as National’s candidate for . And I was at the selection meeting last night for where won a three way battle. Richard is one of those rare creatures in politics – a small business owner. Amongst his various endeavours, he owned for around a decade what is now called the Speights Ale House on Tinakori Road in Thorndon.  Richard has firsthand experience of what it means to invest your own money into a business, and the environment needed for small businesses to succeed. He’s also been involved with local environmental issues – specifically the toxic sludge from the Hutt based Exide factory.

National has also announced the names of the five candidates seeking the nomination for what should be the very safe seat.  They are:

I know, or have met, four of the five candidates over the years.  It will be a hard fought contest, and I suspect it will go to all four ballots on the night.

I blogged previously on how gruelling the National Party selection process can be with 60 delegates to meet and impress. Well Rakaia is even worse for the candidates. Not only does it stretch out over a couple of hundred kms, but they have sought and been given permission to have universal suffrage for the selection meeting. That means that instead of 60+ delegates voting, over 700 local members (who have been members for at least six months) can and generally will vote.  So I predict a lot of travel over the next couple of weeks as the candidates get around Canterbury.

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46 Responses to “More candidates”

  1. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    Is Alex McKinnon any relation to Don?

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  2. James W (271 comments) says:

    What happened to Angus McKay in Selwyn?

    Alex is Don’s son I believe.

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  3. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    If selected hopefully he will be as good an MP as his dad

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  4. David Farrar (1,895 comments) says:

    I think it is nephew. Don,t know re angus but only five are allowed past pre selection.

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  5. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    Alex is Don’s nephew although he should be judged on his own merits which are considerable. In some ways I am glad that I am not on that selection as it will be a hell of a challenge to decide who gets the nod.

    Btw DPF do you know who missed out at pre-selection? Obviously there was numb-nuts Payne but who were the other two?

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  6. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    I know Richard Whiteside quite well having had business dealings with him. He is a very focussed, forthright individual who does not suffer fools gladly. I wish him well and would vote for him if he was in my electorate but I wonder how he would fare in Parliament which seems to operate in it’s own particular universe, where it takes the longest time and the highest cost to achieve mediocrity. Richard, in my experience, would like a high standard in the shortest time at the lowest realistic cost. I hope he is not frustrated in parliament should he get there.

    Good Luck Richard!

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  7. pushmepullu (686 comments) says:

    “Parliament which seems to operate in it’s own particular universe, where it takes the longest time and the highest cost to achieve mediocrity”

    Luckily for Richard he’s not standing for Labour where the above would hold true… National rewards achievers though.

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  8. mike12 (183 comments) says:

    I’ll be voting on the 7th of April for the Selwyn candidate.
    I’d say it is down to Alex McKinnon or Todd Nicholls. Alex does not live in the electorate yet so may be seen as a carpet bagger but having met him he would make a very good Politician.

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  9. RossK (275 comments) says:

    I do not know Alex McKinnon or Dugald Mclean but I think Amy Adams would be the pick of the rest.

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  10. RossK (275 comments) says:

    An awful lot of lawyers in that list of candidates – surely that cannot be a good thing.

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  11. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    I don’t know McLean but only Todd and Amy are lawyers to my knowledge. Alex will be formidable, Amy is rural and lives in the electorate as well as being a partner in a well established Chch law firm. Todd has done some pretty hard yards party wise so I think it will be a tight fight.

    Mike12 – Alex is Chch based so hard to pin too much of the carpet bagging brand on him. He is a talented chap to be fair. Don’t write off Amy.

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  12. Julian (177 comments) says:

    I agree that Alex McKinnon has got excellent skills for being an MP and a contributor. Long Canterbury family history and went to College there. He comes across with real energy and enthusiasm and seems to know where NZ needs to go.

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  13. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    National will regret shafting one potential Selwyn candidate. What do you think you are on John Skinner ?

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  14. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    d4j – sorry don’t quite get that? Are you talking about Payne or someone else? At the end of the day only five can go through to this stage and there are some pretty high quality candidates there.

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  15. Jamie S (2 comments) says:

    This will be a good contest in Selwyn. There are a good selection of candidates. The party really needs to make a stand here and pick someone for the future. I think Alex McKinnon is the best candidate hands down. He has vast business and international experience as well as party experience. He even speaks Chinese – pretty useful when New Zealand is looking to the future in terms of trading partners etc. I feel we have enough lawyers in the party (and Parliament), and need someone with a good mixed background who can relate to people of all ages and all walks of life.

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  16. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    How a candidate can be struck out by a rule that declines a nomination without a reason given is beyond belief in 2008?

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  17. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    That’s the rules and the law is quite clear you can make your own rules for selection. You don’t get reasons from voters either. Who do you think the Party is going to be sadly lacking because of the pre-selection process and how is it a “shafting”?

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  18. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    Winston Peters case ? Justice Fisher .Must go. Back later

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  19. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    Thanks for pulling this together, thanks to all, it’s a good service to the blogosphere.

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  20. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    To warn people, according to Wikipedia, and what I’ve heared elsewhere, Hekia Parata stated publically before that Don Brash’s Orewa speech made her “ashamed” to be part of the National Party, and was “the antithesis of everything I’ve worked for professionally and personally”. I think we need to be carefull about what candidates end up being selected, especially as many can expect to make it into Parliament on the list, and make sure we don’t end up with candidates who joined the wrong party (like Katherine Rich and Parata).

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  21. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    Hekia Parata once said Don Brash’s Orewa speech made her “ashamed” to be part of the National Party. I think we need to be very carefull to make sure the right candidates get selected, and not those, like Parata and Rich, who would fit just as easily in Labour.

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  22. RossK (275 comments) says:

    I thought John Stringer was a lawyer too. (The thought crosses my mind that it might be defamatory to accuse someone of being a lawyer if they are not!!) Shun and avoid, shun and avoid.

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  23. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    Hekia Parata once said that the Brash Orewa speech made her “ashamed” of her party. Are these the candidates we want?

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  24. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    John Skinner I think is who you are thinking of. Not to my knowledge re. Stringer. Only defamatory to accuse someone of being a commercial lawyer – those of us who fight for truth and justice on a daily basis regard it as a compliment!! There is also a John Stringer Chch lawyer but I am pretty sure it is a different chap.

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  25. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    Yeah right GPT1, any of the candidates got an endorsement from the Parole Board Chairman Judge David Carruthers? You know nothing of truth and justice and this whole saga stinks as bad as the Connell trick in 2002.Don’t play with fire National.

    Edit : Even Judy was surprised. Ouch that hurt !

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  26. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    Dirty bastards just as bad as Liarbour!!

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  27. James W (271 comments) says:

    Didn’t Roger Payne stand against the Nats, for Christian Heritage back in 2002? In my book, that’s about enough reason as one needs given the other candidates look pretty decent.

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  28. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    Who is Roger Payne?

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  29. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    This is risking a massive threadjack but in my experience Carruthers is one of life’s true gentlemen. Attack his decision not the person.

    So D4J who are so upset about missing out on the selection? It is a relatively simple question.

    Roger Payne is some wally who thinks that he wants to stand for National and spends the rest of his time suing/threatening to sue/winding National up. A strange combination for someone who thinks they are candidate material.

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  30. James W (271 comments) says:

    “Who is Roger Payne?”

    Payne went for the nomination, but was passed over by the leadership and did not make it through to the final five.

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  31. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    GTP1: I was only being sarcastic by using the example of Carruthers. I could have used any other judge as an illustration to my point . I mean to say there are lawyers everywhere. However, this man is characterized by integrity and I must show him respect and make it VERY clear that his name is not involved in ANY matters discussed on this thread.

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  32. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    “Payne went for the nomination, but was passed over by the leadership and did not make it through to the final five.”

    Was that in 2002 or 2008 or both?

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  33. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    Sorry for the multiple coments above. They didn’t appear immediately after posting, so tried posting again.

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  34. James W (271 comments) says:

    “Was that in 2002 or 2008 or both?”

    2008. From memory, he was one of the finalists in 2002. They chose Connell, and Payne jumped ship to run as the Christian Heritage candidate, and got absolutely mauled.

    They should have chosen Angus McKay back in ’02. A very safe pair of hands. Surprised (and a little disappointed) to see he hasn’t made it through to the final five this time. He has been a very loyal Nat, and long-time Regional Councillor in Canterbury.

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  35. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    There is a lot more to this than meets the eye, however I suppose I should just go with the flow and shut the door on this.Who needs the truth in politics, after all, it’s the kiwi way.

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  36. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    I’m not so sure D4J. Payne is a bloody nuisance for National and has been for years. Why on Earth would National even contemplate letting him stand? To be frank he wouldn’t get past pre-selection if there was only one candidate. He has previously thrown his toys and caused irritation – why encourage him? It is also worth remembering that two other candidates missed out on pre-selection who, despite being well qualified and quality people (if they are who I think they are – not sure if it has been published or is public knowledge for that matter) have managed to act with a modicum of dignity and avoid making a prat of themselves in the High Court.

    James W – as it turned out (with Connell being a complete disaster) Angus McKay would have made a fine choice. I agree re. safe hands and a loyal and respected member of the Party. As an aside Payne did not make it through pre-selection in 2002 as well.

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  37. Ross Miller (1,704 comments) says:

    Gueez DfJ … what part of the democratic process don’t you understand? More than 5 candidates and a pre-selection cttee is charged with reducing the field to at least five. That cttee is stacked in favour the electorate. So, are you saying that if 10/15/20 stand they should automatically go forward to selection? What about the ‘flakes’? Look, by your recent utterances you clearly prefer being part of the problem rather than the solution … and being part of the problem means you are tacidly supporting Labour. So, well done, with friends like you we don’t need enemies, and I guess you will shortly receive your cheque from the Beehive.

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  38. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    I don’t make friends with corrupt politicians from ANY lying party.

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  39. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    Who are you saying is corrupt d4j or are you just spouting off in general?

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  40. dad4justice (8,222 comments) says:

    Ross I take offence that you insinuate that I support Labour. Get real mate, never in a million years mate, however with that said I support the underdog in almost all situations and I find the Selwyn electorate candidate process rather disturbing to say the least.

    GPT1 ; My genuine reasons for concern are all founded on evidence, so any allegation that I am spurting shit when I banter the word corruption is rather foolish at this stage.

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  41. GPT1 (2,122 comments) says:

    That’s fine d4j – what I am trying to pin you down on (without getting anyone sued for defamation) is what exactly your concerns are? Is it that National had to re-run the selection process, is it the rules that apply to all selections or is it that Payne is (apparently) a mate of yours and missed out? Or perhaps something else entirely different? You have made comments about corruption and lying – forgive my piqued interest.

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  42. duncan edwards (4 comments) says:

    Just saw a photo of Richard Whiteside in the Dom.I think they are taking the piss as he looks like a Westie reject from last weekends Kiss concert.

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  43. chandler frank (5 comments) says:

    http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1665237

    Looks like Mangare is starting to heat up, would be prudent to still have Taito in the list? And how about Jerry Filipaina? Hmm

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  44. James W (271 comments) says:

    who the fuck is jerry fili…blah?

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