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National are about to wrap up their law & order forum. No major policy announcements, but a couple of minor ones. The main speech was from Simon Power and the key points were:

  • Fairness is National’s main aim for the criminal justice system, and what people currently don’t get
  • Violent crimes incidence has increased 44% since Labour took office
  • Labour have blamed violent crime on the the 1991 Budget, the sun and the moon and the latest “blame” is on urban design
  • Helen Clark this year promised a victims’ charter – as she also promised in 1994!
  • Summarised policy announced to date including increased penalties for gang members, wider use of DNA testing, on-the-spot protection orders, Tasers, reverse Labour’s bail law changes, extend Youth Court to 12 and 13 year olds, and allow private management of prisons (was massively successful last time)
  • Announced National would abolish Labour’s Sentencing Council and redirect the $5.8 million saved into a fund for victims of crime. Says the Council’s role is to reduce the nominal length of prison sentences by 25% and that no need for a lawyer of bureaucracy between Parliament and Judges.
  • Also will abolish the Criminal Justice Advisory Board and redirect that $250,000 also to victims of crime.

They then had a forum afterwards with Power, Chester Borrows, Kate Wilkinson and Chris Finlayson. It started off somewhat farcically with Simon Power asking questions to his associates. I joked to a journalist that having the Spokesperson interview his associates is hardly going to result in probing questions! But to be fair Simon managed it with humour and after an initial round of questions, they had delegates ask any questions they want. Confirmed National will keep the SFO if it is not abolished by the election.

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11 Responses to “Law & Order Forum”

  1. PhilBest (5,022) Says:

    The way the debate has been defined by the Left, of course no-one among the Nats, will dare to raise the connection between kids brought up in dysfunctional fatherless homes, and crime………leave that, as usual, to the ACT Party, the only party with the guts to say it as it is…….

  2. stayathomemum (140) Says:

    A victims charter? – I think Helen has been too busy trying to find dirt on John Key to bother with anything as petty as that….

  3. baxter (893) Says:

    The policy wins my approval especially getting rid of Palmer’s sentencing council and providing the funding to victims. Now they need to address the Judicial process itself. This Dixon character having just been found guilty for the second time after a six week second trial now having his enormously enriched legal aid lawyer preparing another appeal being a classic example.

  4. roger nome (4,067) Says:

    “Violent crimes incidence has increased 44% since Labour took office ”

    DPF: I’ve hauled you over the coals for this nonsense statistic before. I simply can’t believe that you’re reproducing it out of ignorance.

    Independent data indicates that the upward trend indicated by the recorded crime statistics and the abrupt discontinuity reported during July 2005, are not corroborated by other observations (such as CARD data, calls for service, ACC claim data).

    So this “upward trend” in crime is meaningless because it’s unsupportable using other measurements, and is explained away as being due to changes in policing practices.

    The overall increase in recorded violent crime is however supported by ACC claim statistics. Much of the increase in violence, appears to be family violence related, and may be a consequence of increased proactive police activity to combat domestic violence.

    http://www.police.govt.nz/resources/2006/axist/understanding-crime-statistics-movement.pdf

  5. philu (10,919) Says:

    “..# PhilBest (2080) Add karma Subtract karma +0 Says:
    August 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    The way the debate has been defined by the Left, of course no-one among the Nats, will dare to raise the connection between kids brought up in dysfunctional fatherless homes, and crime………leave that, as usual, to the ACT Party, the only party with the guts to say it as it is…….”

    these are the people who issue pious platitudes/admonitions about absent fathers on the one hand..

    and on the other hand..they advocate ripping away the state support given to the (mainly..but not only) women..

    ..who are raising those children on their own..

    ..you have to wonder if their pious platitudes are more..mendacious nastiness..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  6. expat (3,684) Says:

    pat pat – he keep believing that roger.

  7. big bruv (9,840) Says:

    Phul

    I would gladly be the one who “rips away” your state support, and yes I would also take it off others.

    You cannot have a system that lets people like you chose to sit on your arse while the rest of us pay for it.

  8. philu (10,919) Says:

    and what should happen to the children..?

    ..in your little dystopia..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  9. philu (10,919) Says:

    and big bruv..did you steal your ‘name’ from big bro..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

  10. Murray M (455) Says:

    In reply to your post @ 8.45pm phil, take the kids off fucktards like you and place them in homes where they have a positive role model.

  11. ross (1,454) Says:

    And was there any mention of miscarriages of justice and how to rectify them? Or does National consider them an inconvenient by-product of the justice system?

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