Government to fund Destiny Church

October 19th, 2008 at 2:49 pm by David Farrar

Well that will be ironic. Destiny Church plans to become an Urban Maori Authority, which will make it eligible for Government grants, contracts and even Treaty settlements.

The Cabinet will be pleased!

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32 Responses to “Government to fund Destiny Church”

  1. dad4justice (8,302 comments) says:

    Truly a miracle from the good Lord :-)

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  2. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,914 comments) says:

    Why didn’t Black Power wake up to this one?

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  3. serge (108 comments) says:

    hang on, this is a joke init? Destiny, whose destiny? self appointed bishop tamaki’s?” These “pastors” ar no more than disguised common thieves…don’t get me started…….roll on november!

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  4. Portia (175 comments) says:

    What if…

    …National goes on the offensive against Labour in relation to its ties to Destiny Church.

    … The Family Party proves to be the dark horse on 8 November. It wins Mangere and/or East Coast Bays and its 1 or 2 seats can help decide the next government.

    … John Key’s PM chances depend on his being able to schmooze with Bishop Tamaki’s congregation.

    ?

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  5. helmet (807 comments) says:

    Wake up portia. That’s ridiculous.

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  6. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    serge, I attend a church and donate money to it. Some of that money helps pay our pastors salary. Does that make him a common thief?

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  7. JimBWarrior (47 comments) says:

    Seems Destiny have mastered the art of Government Funding ahead of the so called Mens -/- Fathers Groups

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  8. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    On the basis that he’s getting money from you on the back of lies – he’s a thief. On the basis that you don’t seem to mind – common probably doesn’t cover it. :)

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  9. Lee (610 comments) says:

    Good news :)

    Strictly speaking I suspect that Labour hates this, but Destiny does fulfill the requirements for an UMA, so they have no choice. Interestingly both John Tamihere and Willie Jackson were pleased. The huge welfare, support and charity work Destiny does in South Auckland has won them a lot of support. They have done far more to get drug addicts, gang members and long term benificiaries out of their lifestyles and into real jobs than our pathetic secular welfare system has managed.

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  10. Lee (610 comments) says:

    “getting money from you on the back of lies”

    Such as?

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  11. Sector 7g (242 comments) says:

    “On the basis that he’s getting money from you on the back of lies – he’s a thief”

    Are we talking about Cullen?

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  12. Shunda barunda (2,985 comments) says:

    This is good stuff.
    The amount of money Brian Tamaki has saved the NZ tax payer is huge and people should learn from his whole approach to poverty in NZ.
    You may not like his doctrine, but Destiny is helping people the govt is clearly failing to help.
    Clark must be furious!!!

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  13. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    As a middle class white man, can I join destiny church and get my hands on treaty settlement money now?

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  14. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty……. NO!!!!
    must be brown.

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  15. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    slightlyrighty……
    In saying that, I am thinking of setting up my own party.
    It will be for white male New Zealander’s only.
    there are all sorts of protection for others…. be them…..
    women.
    maori.
    all other races.
    gays.
    etc.
    But nothing for kiwi men.
    So…… if a Maori party is allowed….. give me one reason a white male New Zealander’s only wouldn’t be allowed.

    Okay, I’m not even the slightest bit interested of doing the above…. but true isn’t it???

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  16. Christian... (4 comments) says:

    Micheals,

    lol fuckin right its true!it would be discrimination haha for fucks sake what are living in?!reverse apartheid..I would support you in that venture if only to say im sick of us white males getting treated like shit..I was looking at uni scholarships the other day…couldnt find the one for white males…funny that. NO doubt the greens will be having a crack at us with thier population policy soon, I can just see it..”White male births will be restricted to 3 births per electorate”

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  17. Michaels (1,318 comments) says:

    Your onto it Christian… move on!!

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  18. KevOB (267 comments) says:

    I like it. Tamaki has been terribly reviled, now God is showing HIs hand. I pray it happens with the election too, the ungodly are not fit to govern.

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  19. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    Hulun and Bri’ wil be breaking bread as we speak. Rapping about how the god botherers can slime some money out of the lesbian systerhood gummint agencies.

    LOL!

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  20. bearhunter (853 comments) says:

    “I like it. Tamaki has been terribly reviled, now God is showing HIs hand. I pray it happens with the election too, the ungodly are not fit to govern.”

    And this is the best possible example of why politics and religion should never be mixed. Hey Kev, will you be stoning the ungodly in Aotea Square as well?

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  21. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    I assumed kev was taking the piss…were you kev?

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  22. DamnedAngry (231 comments) says:

    Anyone know the cutoff point to be qualified as “brown”? Eligible for special benefits etc?

    I’m 1/16th but have never bothered with any of the perks offered to Maroi as it has always seemed like a form of reverse racism to me, and as I look more like a Roman General it would feel rather strange applying :)

    Interesting heritage though…trace back to being related to Alexander Grey who was the first white settler to reside is Kororareka, Bay of Islands and to marry a Maori (Kotiri Hinerangi). One of his daughters Sophia (famous guide to Pink & White terraces) was subject for several Goldie paintings. Kotiri was directly responsible for an insult to Hone Heke that caused him to challenge British rule, which lead to the chopping down of the Kororareka flagstaff in 1844.

    Oh and back on topic, I think it’s just fantastic that Destiny have achieved this funding and can only hope that they get more and more recognition for the great work they are doing.

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  23. Rakaia George (313 comments) says:

    Lee.

    Such as: talking snakes, global floods, virgin births, rising from the dead, the usual suspects…

    Gee you Christians bite like big fish. The :) was a clue that I was taking the mick, still I’m revelling in my first batch of KB negative karma.

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  24. dime (10,086 comments) says:

    helen doesnt know anything about this.

    the leader we should “trust” hasnt been briefed.. umm yeah.

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  25. ZenTiger (435 comments) says:

    And this is the best possible example of why politics and religion should never be mixed.

    Politics became mixed with religion the moment government decided it could do charity better. After billions of dollars poored (pun intended) into welfare, the work ethic destroyed and cycles of poverty and unemployment reinforced by the government (socialists) promoting a sense of entitlement, the irony is religious organisations are busier than ever trying to clean up that mess too.

    Don’t let your negative bias towards religion stop you from seeing the enormous amount of good they do in our communities.

    The historical reason that the state and religion was to be kept separate was to ensure the state did not interfere with people’s freedom to believe in God. I’m all for keeping it that way. It’s not an excuse for the State to ban, control and persecute religious organisations.

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  26. DamnedAngry (231 comments) says:

    What’s the bet that Labour roll-out some rumour about talks between the Exclusive Bretheren and JK in the next couple of weeks?

    We all know that they’d do anything to stay in power so pulling this one out of their arses shouldn’t be a far stretch of the imagination.

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  27. bearhunter (853 comments) says:

    “Don’t let your negative bias towards religion stop you from seeing the enormous amount of good they do in our communities.

    The historical reason that the state and religion was to be kept separate was to ensure the state did not interfere with people’s freedom to believe in God. I’m all for keeping it that way. It’s not an excuse for the State to ban, control and persecute religious organisations.”

    Thanks for the history lesson. I’d never have figured all that out on my own. And I wholeheartedly agree that religious organisations like the Sallies, MSS, StVdP etc do Trojan work in social care. Hats off to them. However, my dislike of people trumpeting their faith in God as a reason why they should be in charge of a country is strengthened, lengthened and deepened by statements like “the ungodly are not fit to govern”. Mostly because it’s a short step from believing that to smiting the “ungodly”. And then there is the whole question of who is godly? Is it the followers of the sandal or the followers of the gourd?

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  28. DamnedAngry (231 comments) says:

    Bearhunter, that’s darned smiting talk!

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  29. Scott (1,817 comments) says:

    I think Brian Tamaki and Destiny church do great work in the community, especially among Maori folk. There are so many testimonies of people who had been into drugs or gangs and have started going along to Destiny church and their lives have turned around.

    In reply to Bear Hunter — Western civilisation has been at least nominally Christian for 2000 years. Christianity is a safeguard against abuses of power and persecution. One only needs to see what happens when atheist regime’s come into power. To have faith in God provides a moral restraint even to government leaders.

    So even if a Christian party came into power in New Zealand I do not think the atheists need to fear for their lives. Sadly the reverse is not true when atheists come into power.

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  30. halfcast (1 comment) says:

    Hey, just letting yous know from what i’ve read so far you don’t have to be Maori, the Destiny IWI is for all races. I am not Maori but im seriously looking at joining in this IWI. Research it like i have you may be surprised, when I say research I don’t mean through the media coz they seem to put their own twist on everything they report about here and overseas…..:)

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  31. MikeNZ (3,234 comments) says:

    whats with this resurrection of an October thread Kiwichristian?
    You stiring the pot now?

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