Maori Party and Fiji

May 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pm by David Farrar

Audrey Young blogs on Fiji, and you have to agree with her it has not been handled well by the Government. Discussions have been occuring through the media, not directly to each other.

It looks like the Maori Party will still send a delegation – probably led by Hone Harawira. That is their right of course.

I’m a bit puzzled by the stance on . The original coups were about preventing the majority Indians from forming a Government. It was about protecting what they saw as the right of indigenous Fijians, and that stance had the support of some Maori activists in NZ.

But the Commodore’s coup is (officially anyway) about the opposite. He is saying he wants to remove any special rights from indigenous Fijians, and replace the constitution which has race based seats.

Somewhat strange bedfellows for the Maori Party I would have said whose entire party is about how there should be special rights for indigenous people.

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12 Responses to “Maori Party and Fiji”

  1. Mike S (229 comments) says:

    I noted also that Ms Turia’s initial party was to be made up largely of people who owe their position to their birth(The Maori King, and the Tuwharetoa Chief) rather than those who earn it without such privilege. This seems in keeping with the general disdain she has shown in the past about democracy.

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  2. tvb (4,366 comments) says:

    John Key must be cursing himself for getting dragged into something without thinking it through. But to put this in context. Tariana raised this issue publicly basically trying to bounce John Key into doing something without thinking it through. This may be a weakness of the Prime Minister but he is a fast learner. He should resist commenting publicly on something that gets first raised in the public eye. But his line that Ministers speak for the Government is a good one. Ministers should realise that if they have the authority of the Government BEHIND them, that is a strength not a weakness. And trying to bounce the Government into something is unwise. If the Maori Party have lost face over this then Tariana should remember she caused the situation.

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  3. RKBee (1,344 comments) says:

    It just goes to show the Maori Party has no true principles “ indigenous or otherwise”. They are merely grandstanding the values of someone that holds up a finger to democracy and the establishment. To which they enjoy in indulging their parties support. Frank Bainimarama they see as one who holds the same ideals and values as themselves and their supporters.
    Regardless of the spin they relay for their reasons for going.

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  4. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    I have given this subject a lot of thought and I think that the Maori party would be much better off sending a delegation to South Auckalnd or Northland or Porirua and spend some time helping their own people.

    And I used to spend a lot of time in the meat industry when it was in Otahuhu area and the various pacific islanders all hate each other, and maori’s hated them all – and I mean to such an extent that they had to limit which race worked at each meat plant otherwise they would have been using knives on each other.

    What they think they are doing grandstanding on this issue I just dont know. Maybe the wheels on the maori party bandwagon are starting to get a bit wobbly………………….(it happnes before they fall off)

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  5. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    There is a good soap box article over at nzcpr.com about communism, seems to me relevant with the Maori party and the greens. Personally I think NZ and Aus should keep the fuck out of Fiji’s affairs. If the Chinese want influence in Fiji, nothing in hell that NZ or Aus can do to will stop them.

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  6. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Yeah bloody oath, put old Hone on the first plane. I see he has solved all of the problems of “his people” here, Tui ad. The Maori Party as a whole suffer from delusions of grandeur, someone should drop a few hints least they start to believe they are the Messiah’s.

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  7. dave (988 comments) says:

    Scotty Morrison on Te Karere last night said it all: “Will you bow to the wish of John Key?” he asked MP Hone Harawira. “We will go if we want to,” Harawira replied.

    reminds me of the Safety Dance song by by Men without Hats:

    I say, we can go where we want to
    A place where they will never find
    And we can act like we come from out of this world
    Leave the real one far behind

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  8. Komata (1,180 comments) says:

    But at the most basic, what on earth do they even have in common with the locals?

    As others have pointed out, none of the group (if they go) are Fijian, or Indian, or European, or Chinese, so on this basis they have no reason to go – there isn’t a local (Fijian)-born) ‘ethnic’ amongst the group.

    Therefore the only possible reason for the trip is to ‘show solidarity’ with a bully (which, in Honiwera’s case is appropriate I believe) and to ‘extend the hand of ethnic-understanding’ to ‘the poor, down-trodden indigenous peoples of the Fiji islands’

    (And interfering in someone elses business is always more exciting than helping your own – even if they actually DO need it)

    The fact that a local is doing the ‘down-treading’ to his own seems to have escaped them.

    A traitorous thought: It would be interesting (wonderful) if Binimarama jailed the lot as soon as they arrived at Nadi airport on the grounds that they consituted an ‘outside interfernce in a soverign states’ internal affairs’.

    And then left them there – indefinitely

    Wouldn’t there be screams of outrage from the ‘usual culprits’?

    Sadly, one can but dream . . .

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  9. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    They might even get served up as the main course

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  10. Paulus (2,608 comments) says:

    Having had some years of commercial experience working in and out of Fiji it is obviously difficult for some to understand Fiji.

    There has never been democracy as we understand it. Politics was tribal, all decisions base ultimately under the Great Council of Chiefs – not the ballot box (sic. democracy).

    I believe that New Zealand should at some senior level be talking with the present head of state on the basis of what can we do to help alleviate the country from what has been an indigenous corrupt system. What is needed is help to set up firstly a proper electoral system and create a) an electoral role, and b) some meaningful electoral boundaries.

    I am far more afraid to walk the streets of South Auckland than Suva.

    Are we e.g Australia and New Zealand losing touch with reality in this. I have difficulty with our political stance – after all we cosy up to China……………….”a democracy?????”

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  11. backster (2,152 comments) says:

    I agree with you PAULUS, the policy of demonising FIJI by Clark in order to raise her profile should not have been continued by National. I think McCULLY wanted to try a conciliatory approach but has been over ruled by the more Labourlike sector that is becoming more evident within the government. The overwhelming commentary that I have heard from Fijian expats and NZ-Fiji business circles is that they approve of what the coup leaders are trying to achieve.

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  12. jcuknz (704 comments) says:

    I had hoped that with a National Government we would move away from the stupid and pointless posturing of Labour. Sadly they just picked up the same ball and run like neo-colonial hypocrits. If they truely wanted to solve the problem they would back off and offer meaningful help instead of blathering on about returning to democracy which as previous writers have pointed out was a token sham. All power for once they have a good idea with Maori and Greens trying to break the foolish deadlock … I hope it works.

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