The ballot for private member’s bills

June 18th, 2009 at 11:06 am by David Farrar

The Office of the Clerk is doing a ballot at midday to randomly select two private member’s bills from 24 put forward. The list is:

1.

Boscawen

John

Crimes (Reasonable Parental Control and Correction) Amendment Bill

2.

Bradford

Sue

Citizens Initiated Referenda (Wording of Questions) Amendment Bill

3.

Chauvel

Charles

Credit Reforms (Responsible Lending) Bill

4.

Delahunty

Catherine

Customs and Excise (Sustainable Forestry) Amendment Bill

5.

Douglas

Hon Sir Roger

Education (Freedom of Association) Amendment Bill

6.

Fenton

Darien

Employment Relations (Statutory Minimum Redundancy Entitlements) Amendment Bill

7.

Fitzsimons

Jeanette

Sustainable Biofuel Bill

8.

Flavell

Te Ururoa

Education (Kōhanga Reo, Kura Kaupapa Māori, and Early Childhood Standards) Amendment Bill

9.

Garrett

David

Crimes (Self-Defence) Amendment Bill

10.

Gilmore

Aaron

Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance (Break Fees Disclosure) Amendment Bill

11.

Graham

Dr Kennedy

International Non-Aggression and the Lawful Use of Force Bill

12.

Hague

Kevin

Climate Change (Government Vehicle Procurement) Bill

13.

Katene

Rahui

Te Rā o Mātāriki Bill/Mātāriki Day Bill

14.

Kedgley

Sue

Customs and Excise (Cruelty to Animals) Amendment Bill

15.

Lees-Galloway

Iain

Smoke-free Environments (Removing Tobacco Displays) Amendment Bill

16.

Locke

Keith

Head of State Referenda Bill

17.

McClay

Todd

Shop Trading Hours Act Repeal (Easter Sunday Local Choice) Amendment Bill

18.

Moroney

Sue

Parental Leave and Employment Protection (Six Months Paid Leave) Amendment

19.

Norman

Dr Russel

Local Electoral Amendment Bill

20.

Parker

Hon David

Injury Prevention, Rehabilitation and Compensation (Change of Date for Full Funding) Amendment Bill

21.

Ririnui

Hon Mita

Electoral (Entrenchment of Māori Representation) Amendment Bill

22.

Street

Hon Maryan

Customs and Excise (Prohibition of Imports Made by Slave Labour) Amendment Bill

23.

Turei

Metiria

Marine Animals Protection Law Reform Bill

24.

Twyford

Phil

Local Government (Protection of Auckland Assets) Amendment Bill

Only two National MPs have bills in the ballot. All three ACT backbenchers have a bill, as do all nine Green MPs. Maori Party has two, and Labour has eight.

Pardon the formatting – it is a cut and paste.

UPDATE: The luck of the Greens continues. Both draws picked a Green bill – Jeanette Fitzsimons’ Sustainable Biofuel Bill and Catherine Delahunty’s Customs and Excise (Sustainable Forestry) Amendment Bil.e

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38 Responses to “The ballot for private member’s bills”

  1. Monty (978 comments) says:

    David exactly how does the ballot work?

    [DPF: I think it is each bill has a number, and numbered balls are put into a box or hat and pulled out]

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  2. getstaffed (9,186 comments) says:

    Oh please let one of them be Catherine Delahunty’s. She might sing it to parliament rather than read it robotically, as is the custom.

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  3. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    national…

    the party of independant thinkers…eh..?

    (heh..!)

    ..and how about those greens..?..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  4. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    are you able to view the bills online? like the hansard website? Some of these look fascinating. Does anyone know what Roger Douglas and David Garrett’s ones are about? Voluntary student union membership? and an amendment to the self defence laws?

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  5. Alfred (52 comments) says:

    More do-good social engineering from no-hoper MPs.

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  6. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    nickb said: …are you able to view the bills online?

    I think that’s up to the MPs as to whether they publish them on their Party websites. They don’t appear on the Parliamentary site unless they are actually drawn. Jeanette Fitzsimons’ is here and Sue Bradford’s is here.

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  7. Rebel Heart (249 comments) says:

    Crimes (Self-Defence) Amendment Bill – what does Garrett want changed here?

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  8. IdiotSavant (88 comments) says:

    A little gloat: Street’s Customs and Excise (Prohibition of Imports Made by Slave Labour) Amendment Bill is from the Progressive Bills Project.

    I am as usual endeavouring to get copies of all these bills so I can do an “In the Ballot” on them.

    [DPF: It would be nice if the Parliamentary website listed them all, but I guess they don't regard them as proper Bills until they get drawn]

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  9. IdiotSavant (88 comments) says:

    Jeanette and Delahunty win. The Green ballot mojo strikes again!

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  10. nickb (3,687 comments) says:

    cool thanks toad

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  11. coventry (321 comments) says:

    So which Biofuel company does Jeanette have shares in now ?

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  12. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    IdiotSavant said: Jeanette and Delahunty win. The Green ballot mojo strikes again!

    And with John Key considering the Government adopting Sue Bradford’s one to clean up referenda wording, the Greens could have three from today’s ballot running.

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  13. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    Sue Bradford now wants to give the speaker the right to toss out a referendum (under the guise of she doesn’t like its wording). This woman is a bigger threat to the New Zealand people than the Japanese Empire ever was.

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  14. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    At first glance it would seem pretty simple to just stuff the ballot with dozens of one’s own party’s Bills so as to increase the chance of being picked – what’s stopping a party doing this? Maybe they need to informally garner support first?

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  15. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    Wrong Murray, about everything! Read the Bill.

    It is the Clerk of the House of Representatives (not the Speaker) who confirms the wording under the current Act. And the Bill Bradford is proposing doesn’t permit a referendum to be “tossed out” by the Clerk, but allows the Clerk to refer poorly worded ones back to be reworded in a manner that is not ambiguous, complex, leading, or misleading.

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  16. big bruv (13,888 comments) says:

    How much time and money do the bastards now waste debating these two bills when the reality is that they have NO chance of ever being passed?

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  17. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    stephen said: At first glance it would seem pretty simple to just stuff the ballot with dozens of one’s own party’s Bills so as to increase the chance of being picked…

    No, each MP can have only one Bill in the ballot. So the most the Greens could have is 9 (which they did have in this ballot). It does reveal something about MPs from Labour and National though – that many of them either don’t care enough about anything to draft one or are too lazy to bother drafting one.

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  18. big bruv (13,888 comments) says:

    Again Toad is spinning Bradford’s bullshit.

    Comrade Bradford wants to stop democracy, she is petrified that her little “victory” and two fingered salute to the people of NZ in the form of the anti smacking bill will be overturned.

    Mind you, Bradford has lied consistently about this bill from day one so I suppose that Toad is only continuing that line.

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  19. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    tossed out, tossed back in perpetuity. Really GOOD fucking grasp you commie have of democracy toad.

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  20. ephemera (557 comments) says:

    big bruv,

    Bradford’s proposed bill has no effect on the outcome of this current referendum.

    Can you please qualify what ‘stopping democracy’ entails?

    I read the bill Toad linked to, and I think it seemed pretty sensible – a simple improvement to ensure clarification of questions submitted to the clerk of the house. I actually see there to be a lot of benefit in this. It means we can start debating the real issues in a referendum, and not their semantics.

    You may not agree with Bradfords politics (I don’t) or her motives behind this bill (which are clear), but calling it an attempt to stop democracy sounds just plain hysterical.

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  21. alex Masterley (1,517 comments) says:

    Just read the Fitzimmons bill.
    As it happens I agree with the philosophy behind it but defining the term “sustainable biofuel” so it matches the sustainablity principles in the bill as it stands will be a very difficult exercise for the draughter to undertake.

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  22. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    No, each MP can have only one Bill in the ballot. So the most the Greens could have is 9 (which they did have in this ballot). It does reveal something about MPs from Labour and National though – that many of them either don’t care enough about anything to draft one or are too lazy to bother drafting one.

    Yes, that would appear to be revealing. Sure they’re busy, but surely they’d prefer to spend time debating their own Bills rather than someone else’s..

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  23. IdiotSavant (88 comments) says:

    Stephen: with National, they’re in government, so I can understand why they’d prefer to simply lobby the Minister rather than take a chance in the ballot. As for Labour, I’m hoping they’ll make a more impressive showing in the next ballot.

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  24. Sam (501 comments) says:

    Goff forgot to send the rest through – too busy contemplating the Choundry affair…

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  25. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Boy not much there to give anyone a hard-on. Looks like more of the same old shit from the commies and two bobs, trying to peddle their snake oil. 5 and 1 look like they could actually have some substance but the rest can be shredded.

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  26. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    Ta IS. Street’s one sounded lovely actually, if a little tricky.

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  27. Nicholas O'Kane (168 comments) says:

    I just set up the website http://www.nzmembersbills.wordpress.com to follow the ballot. It will use resources from here, and No right Turn, who hasn’t done much of his usual “in the Ballot” posts recently.

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  28. IdiotSavant (88 comments) says:

    No right Turn, who hasn’t done much of his usual “in the Ballot” posts recently.

    That’s because there hasn’t been a ballot in 18 months.

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  29. Lawrence Hakiwai (119 comments) says:

    What exactly would “unsustainable biofuel” be? The very term biofuel refers to the fact it comes from living sources – canola, sugar cane, tallow and others.

    Would an unsustainable biofuel be made from Kakapo, Chatham Island robin, Loch Ness Monsters?

    And Delahunty’s bill demanding that imported timber products be produced from sustainable logging….does that mean a piece of furniture made from the last tree in the world would be banned from New Zealand?

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  30. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    Delahunty’s bill basically adopts an ‘guilty until proven innocent’ approach to timber imports. In effect, it denies that sovereign states (generally) have the competence to determine if their exports are ‘legal’ and ‘sustainable’. The rights to export timber products would be given to approved international certification bodies (perhaps like the FSC).

    This would also be a unilateral action that could be subject to WTO sanction (we are after all, going to say to other sovereign states that they are too feckin’ stupid to be trusted with their own resources, so it’s up to the newest colonial power in the globe to take charge- the Green movement- to do that for them).

    Note that we have agreed to a number of international environmental treaties (like the CBD) promising that we would only undertake multilateral action for environmental approval. Likewise we are eschewing other international multilateral approaches like CITES. Of course, CITES only requires a non-detriment standard rather than positive proof of sustainability, hence is less onerous to developing countries. The cost for sustainable forestry enterprises in developing countries to demonstrate that they are in fact, sustainable, can be a major financial and expertise hurdle. By analogy, the ongoing efforts to show that the CAMPFIRE programme was sustainable in Zimbabwe, went a long way to killing off the success of these initiatives.

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  31. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    The bills are there http://blog.greens.org.nz/2009/06/18/2-out-of-2-the-members-ballot-goes-green/

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  32. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    In effect, it denies that sovereign states (generally) have the competence to determine if their exports are ‘legal’ and ’sustainable’.

    I haven’t read the Bill myself, but I suspect Delahunty would say ‘it denies that sovereign states (generally) have the *inclination* to determine if their exports are ‘legal’ and ‘sustainable’.

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  33. Chthoniid (2,047 comments) says:

    Quite possibly.

    The point however, is that for whatever reason, the plan is to remove resource-rights from our trading partners and gift them to approved certification bodies. And the Delahunty plan is to do so in a way that flies in the face of most of the recent international environmental treaties we’ve signed up to.

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  34. Scott (1,800 comments) says:

    Agree with Murray. Not keen to see any legislation emanating from Ms Bradford in the foreseeable future. I just simply do not trust her motives nor do I think she is a good representative of the people.

    As an unelected list MP she represents the negative side of MMP. She would never have been admitted to Parliament under FPP.

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  35. KiwiGreg (3,255 comments) says:

    @Alex M – as far as I can see (on a 2 second read I admit) the main purpose of the Fitzsimmons bill is to criminalise the selling of biofuels unless that are registered as “sustainable”. It seems selling petrol would still be ok though. I wasn’t sure that the problems in New Zealand were caused by too few crimes.

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  36. William Fussey (45 comments) says:

    I would have liked to have seen Sir. Roger Douglas’s bill drawn…would be good to see the pollies debating VSM!

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  37. James (1,338 comments) says:

    Basically Garretts bill will allow people to defend themselves from scum by any means nessessary and not worry about the law trying them as crims..

    Its about to propel ACT into the heights of popularity with Mr and Mrs NZ…..

    Watch the crim lovers on the left howl like bitches over this.

    ;-)

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