Naughty Tiger
GOLF superstar Tiger Woods has admitted “transgressions” saying he had let his family down, in a statement posted on his website that appeared to confirm rumours of an extramarital affair.
A famous person having an affair is hardly unusual, but this case has generated considerable discussion, as his wife, Elin Nordegren, is a beautiful model in her 20s.
Greer McDonald asks the question of whether monogamy is natural:
Do you think that the majority have just been taught that monogamy is the right and only way, and that it’s actually “natural” to want – and be with – more than one person?
Or is it in the human nature to be coupled up and be okay with that?
For my 2c I think that the vast majority of guys are attracted to other women, even if in a happy relationship. However that does not mean you act on the attraction.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
With a name like Eldred Tont Woods , a classic case of silly first name syndrome
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
who cares how hot his wife is?
find me a stunning chick and ill find you someone thats bored with banging her.
Tiger is 33. one of the most famous people on the planet and a billionaire. why the hell did he get married in the first place??
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Married man shags other chick……….Anybody who considers this to be ‘news’ has a sad life.
Lets be honest here, there are many of us who would do exactly what he has done given the same set of circumstances.
Leave the poor bastard alone, let him and his Mrs sort it out themselves.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
This is not news, this is bloody womans magazine chip wrapper crapola.
That the worlds mainstream media have nothing better to do should be of comfort to us all and clearly NOTHING of significance is going on.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I wouldn’t normally be interested in this twaddle, but TW has always been a sanctimonious, holier than thou uber-twat, so whoo – hoo and watch him wriggle.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Tiger doesn’t play golf on the same golf course all the time, does he?
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
DPF: “For my 2c I think that the vast majority of guys are attracted to other women, even if in a happy relationship. However that does not mean you act on the attraction.”
Dime: “who cares how hot his wife is? Find me a stunning chick and ill find you someone thats bored with banging her.”
^^^ Two of the wisest comments ever spoken on Kiwiblog. Look at any celebrity transgression and note how often the cheated-upon wife is hotter than the extra-curricular f*ck.
[Bill Clinton / Hilary vs. Monica Lewinsky]
[HRH Charles, Prince of Wales / Diana vs. Camilla Parker-Bowles]
[Tiger Woods / stunning nude model wife whatever her name is vs. some random slapper from the bar.]
[Brad Pitt / Jennifer Aniston vs. silicon lady]
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Is monogamy natural for humans – NO. There was an interesting study published in Time magazine back around 1996/7 which explored this and humans got a resounding – NO.
Nature created sex – Religion created monogamy.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
For my 2c I think that the vast majority of guys are attracted to other women, even if in a happy relationship. However that does not mean you act on the attraction.
Why not? What’s the point of the attraction without action? I had 12 extra marrital affairs over 22 years of marriage, and only got found out on the last one. If I had stopped at 11 there wouldn’t have been a problem, so whose business is it?
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
One more interesting fact about monogamy. The female chimpanzee (one of our closest relatives…) is quite possibly on of the most promiscious creatures on the plantet. My experience for what it is worth; females are less impressed with monogamy at a biology level than males but social training makes them less obvious about it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
“I had 12 extra marrital affairs over 22 years of marriage, and only got found out on the last one.”
Why were you married?
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Seemed like a good idea at the time… actually, none of your business.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
^^^^ Testy. Since you were volunteering info on your private life….
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
MyNameIsJack
Monogamy is a man made value designed to make relationships last forever. Trust on the other hand is a basic human requirement for long lasting relationships. I feesed up after my first ‘oops’ and still have the trust…. win-win.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pm
and there is more to tigers’ ‘naughtiness’ than his ongoing searches for holes-in-one..
there is the (not small) matter of his ‘dirty’-money..
http://whoar.co.nz/2009/tiger-woods-deserves-your-scrutinybut-not-for-getting-his-alleged-infidelities-whupped-by-a-golf-club-wielding-wife/
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
What’s the penalty on a golf course if you end up in the wrong hole?
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Add a stroke.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Right of way is Way of Right
Is that on the front 9 or the back 9 ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The answer to cheating is to ‘date’ as many people as you like without making shallow promises to anyone.
But people are selfish and want a stable fan club as well as random shagging.
If you’re willing to be honest and give multiple ‘dating’ a go be prepared for being branded a slut and having lots of old gross men hitting on you – if you’re a woman that is.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Natty Girl
Ignore the denigration from people who still believe that Mr Right will turn up on a white horse and you will live happily ever after. These people probably still secretely believe in the tooth fairy as well.
You are onto it – don’t make promises you can’t keep and be honest about it. If they don’t like it – their problem.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
burt 12:27 pm,
Trouble is, Burt, God created nature, and He recommends monogomy for a happy and successful life.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
natty sounds like fun
personally ive never cheated. then again, my “relationships” don’t usually go past 3 weeks. scary thing is, i flick them. you think with my winning personality it would be the other way round
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Kris K
So as long as we don’t shag around marriages last forever as god instructed – right ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Relationship values transcend gender, sexual orientation in young people, University of Minnesota study finds
So if these things are rated as important irrespective of gender or sexual orientation, why does standing up for the virtue of faithfulness always seem to bring out the bashers of Christian values?
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Kris K
The Time magazine study was based on testicle size. Yes plain and simple testicle size. Not social behaviour, not learned responses, not behaviour according to some rule devised by man. Testicle size.
It works like this;
Animals that are naturally monogamous have a very low testicle weight to body weight ratio. This makes sense because in a monogamous (truly monogamous) relationship the requirement for semen is very low. Why would an animal waste precious energy creating bucket loads of goo that are never required. (examples were quoted and the testicle/body ratio was shown)
Animals that are a long was from monogamous have a high testicle to body weight ratio which also makes sense. The Bull jumps dozens of cows and needs lots of goo for example. A Bull is an obvious example and other examples were given along with the testicle/body weight ratio.
Humans were just over half way between totally monogamous and totally promiscuous. So, our physiology says we are not monogamous, the rest is social behaviours and rules imposed to modify aspects of human nature that are not acceptable to “the rule makers”. However we can’t deny our biology.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I don’t know why I always think this blog will stay above the fray with regard to gossip magazine bullshit stories like this one – I’m constantly proven wrong.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Sorry, what are we talking about now?
I haven’t cheated, and have no inclination to do so. I’ve been married almost 20 years and certainly had plenty of invitations to stray (overseas).
I’m not a religious person- I just don’t have any desire to hurt the person I love and care about. That’s a price I’m not prepared to pay for cheating.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Chthoniid
Good for you. [ have you got small nads ???
]
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I don’t make promises that I can’t keep
Got to keep movin’, got no time to sleep
Don’t talk to me about my future plans
It’s time to go, I’m into one nite stands
I’m into one nite stands
If you want wedding rings
To put on your hands
Don’t look at me
I’m into one nite stands
Ride the highways like a man possessed
I got this demon here inside my chest
I’m hard to satisfy, you understand?
I need some love, I’m into one nite stands
I’m into one nite stands
If you want wedding rings
To put on your hands
Don’t look at me
I’m into one nite stands
Play, Dime!
I play some football, like my younger days
Then our ol’ Hendrix sing Purple Haze
That’s when I put together my first band
And now I’m only into one nite stands
I’m into one nite stands
I’m into one nite stands
If you want wedding rings
To put on your hands
Don’t look at me
I’m into one nite stands
One nite stands
I thinks that pretty clear
RIP Dimebag!
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Perhaps for a while Tiger will be restricted to stroke play.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I heard that his wife wasn’t so much angry as Tee’d off.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Coro Sts ‘ Blanche’ died today. This says it all with Tiger and his wife.
She became a fan favourite because of her acid tongue and one-liners that included: “Good looks are a curse, Deirdre. You and Kenneth should count yourselves lucky.”
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Burt 1:00 pm,
Not necessarily – but it is a major contributor to the longevity of marriage.
God has other ’suggestions’ which assist in marriages going the distance – this is just one of them.
PS I am a child of divorce (when I was 12 yo).
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Kris K (1119) Vote: 2 1 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
burt 12:27 pm,
Trouble is, Burt, God created nature,
Prove it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
MyNameIsJack
Religion is a belief system, a bit like human caused global warming. There is evidence all over the place if you hide enough of the contrary evidence for long enough. How can Kris K prove something that cannot be disproved.
At least religion only taxes people who believe to support it’s ruling elite.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Prove it.
And so ends any more talk of Tiger Woods. Really no big deal though, MEH!
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
cant help myself. one more song. from Steel Panther:
I would give you the stars in the sky
But they’re too far away
If you were a hooker, you’d know
I’d be happy to pay
If suddenly you were a guy
I’d be suddenly gay
‘Cause my heart belongs to you
My love is pure and true
My heart belongs to you
But my cock is community property
You’re the only girl I like to screw
When I’m not on the road
When I come home dinner’s made
And the front lawn is mowed
I kiss your mouth
Even after you swallow my load
‘Cause my heart belongs to you
There ain’t nothing I wouldn’t do for you
My heart belongs to you
But my cock is community property
I wanna make it clear
So you retain it
My dick’s of free spirit
And you can’t restrain it
No, you just can’t chain it down
I love you so much it hurts
From my head to my feet
I think of you when I can’t help
But to fondle my meat
I see your face every time
That I go out and cheat
‘Cause my heart belongs to you
There ain’t nothing I wouldn’t do
My heart belongs to you
But my dong is community property
Yeah, yeah, yeah
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 pm
I think it was Oscar Wilde who said “Bigamy is one wife too many…..and so is monogamy”.
Doesnt matter how hot his wife looks if she is no good in bed.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:44 pm
does woods ‘like it in the rough’..?
does anyone know..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Way to go philu, it is good that you find your principles are so important that you are able to strenuously refuse to accept other people’s money as it may come from tainted sources. Given your pronouncements on the stink and corruption in politics, that would include Government handouts wouldn’t it?
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If you cannot be true to your wife, you cannot be true to yourself.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
tiger..tiger..burning bright..
who will you sleep with tonight..?
phil9whoar.co.nz0
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 pm
I agree 100% – I think some people get too rigid about ideas of persevering with a marriage that is stuffed, but I’d still finalise one before practicing for another.
And in case anyone asks I have no idea how big mine are comparatively, it’s not the sort of thing one usually compares. How the heck would you measure them!
Golfers balls are all the same size. Do they all stray? Or not.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:59 pm
i understand he likes a well-manicured ‘green’..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
i’ve been told a big lens..is often over-compensation for ’small nads’..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Pete George.
It’s easy. First you stand naked on the bathroom scales. Write down your weight (A) in kilogrammes. Then you get a very sharp knife and, closing your eyes tight, slice off your balls. Place them on the kitchen scales and write down their weight (B) in grammes.
Divide A by B, multiply by 100you’ll be somewhere near the answer. If you haven’t yet bled to death.
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Don’t tell Ms Woods that Adolf.
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 pm
When tiger returns to play golf…It will give new meaning when some loud mouth yank yells out “get in the hole”……….
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:41 pm
I hear Tiger has designed a new christian golf course. It has only one hole and no clubhouse.
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Thank you for the positive comments Kris K and also Redbaiter.
For the rest of you — New Zealand’s well-educated people, our best and brightest — you are moral barbarians, in my humble opinion. My name is Jack — you once again take the cake for unbridled nihilism. You need to repent mate.
On a more positive note — marriage is a universal human institution found throughout society all over the world and throughout all time. I would agree with kris — created by God, who knows how we should live.
Fortunately many of the younger generation, children of divorce, are wising up and returning to marriage. In our small province for example we just had a bride of the year competition. Heaps of young women entered in their white bridal best. They are the hope of the future. Certainly not the cynical jaded bloggers in this company boasting about how many affairs they have had.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Nah, it’s “Till death do [you] part”. You’re free to play the field in the afterlife!
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
@burt:
No modern medicine for you, eh, burt?
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Getstaffed @ 1:03: Asking students whether they value “love, faithfulness and lifelong commitment as extremely important” is a little different than asking them after they’re 10 years into a relationship.
For what it’s worth, I suspect Tiger’s straying has something to do with opportunity, time on his own and consequence. He has lots of opportunity, since he’s filthy rich, reasonably attractive, and a celebrity. He has plenty of time on his own away from his family, so probably gets a bit lonely. The consequence is probably relatively low – his wife put a golf club through his car window and around his head, she is being mean to him, but ultimately probably won’t leave him, or if she does he’ll still be rich and still have his pick of women.
For me, I have opportunity, but not much time away from home, and my better half has explained in detail how it would be reasonable if I ever strayed to either:
a) put all my things in a pile in the middle of the lawn, and burn them, or
b) hire a hit man.
So, I reckon the math for me is working out in favour of staying monogamous.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RB comes out with a pearler. For the first time I agree 100%.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 pm
On a serious note I don’t believe this is a bad career move for Tiger. His key sponsors Nike & Gillette both trade on sexualised images and identities.
Work out in Nike Gear like Tiger, and you’ll score like Tiger.
Shave with a Gillette like Tiger, and you’ll score like Tiger.
He won’t be losing those contracts. This is Paydirt for all concerned.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Scott (429) 2 2 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Thank you for the positive comments Kris K and also Redbaiter.
For the rest of you — New Zealand’s well-educated people, our best and brightest — you are moral barbarians, in my humble opinion. My name is Jack — you once again take the cake for unbridled nihilism. You need to repent mate.
Scott, you seem to be confused. Simply rejected your invisible friend does not make me a nihilist. I find much wonder in this life, and believe it is best used by accepting all the pleasures, and avoiding as many of the pains, as possible. More hedonist than nihilst, this Jack.
In the words of the greatest living moral philospher, L Coehen:
“When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant”
On a more positive note — marriage is a universal human institution found throughout society all over the world and throughout all time. I would agree with kris — created by God, who knows how we should live.
Three lies and one contradiction in a single sentence. Is that a kiwiblog record?
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm
You’ve never actually undertaken any kind of ancient human anthropolical study have you burt. Or even natural.
Monogomy is practiced in a number species. Wolves and hawkes for a start. sorry chap, nature missed getting a copy of your play book on this one.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
“His key sponsors Nike & Gillette both trade on sexualised images and identities”
Fair point, but if I was Gillette I’d be keeping a close eye on Roger Federer. Thierry Henry caught cheating, Tiger Woods caught cheating…
What have tigers and baby seals got in common? They both get clubbed by Scandinavians. I’ll get me coat.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
tiger drove his car into a fire hydrant and then a tree..apparently he couldn’t decide between a wood and an iron..
I’m just amazed that he could possibly think that he could send 300 texts and it wouldn’t make its way into the public you’d think with Brand Tiger at risk you’d be more discreet.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Burt, I don’t think trust is the objective per se; it’s just a means to an ends. A way to ensure that you don’t get hurt or abandoned. Which raises an interesting question: If you could have a bit on the side with zero risk of anyone finding out or being hurt, then what’s the harm?
I know what Kris would say.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Murray
So are you saying that there is no evidence in human history of alpha males having mating rights with multiple females like we see in much of the animal world ?
And are you saying that while saying I know nothing about ancient human anthropology ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Polygamy is a lot rarer that monogamy however burt. Human societies are a lot less hierarchical- with smaller differences in body mass between males and females- than primate ‘alpha-male’ dominated societies (e.g. baboons, where you really have alpha males.
The basic reproductive problem for humans has always been the extraordinary high level of investment (time, resources) needed to raise children to independence. Monogamy works well as it improves the odds the male is raising his offspring, not someone elses. And it commits males to stick to the relationship longer, ensuring the female and offspring don’t get prematurely abandoned.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I was surprised to hear he was married in the first place. Not surprised or even particularly interested that he’s had an affair. It’s most likely extremely tempting when you’re as rich and famous as him, you’d get a lot more offers than most people.
Is monogamy natural? Obviously not, if what is meant is “is it the only natural position?”. Is it a good idea? Not so obvious. For most people, who aren’t rich or famous, it can probably work if they by some luck find the right person. For the rest, it’s a pretty hard ask.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Even if it were possible at zero risk it would harm the relationship for me, because I would know about it. That matters to me.
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Dime 1:14 pm & 1:38 pm,
The love, warmth, and level of emotional committment in the two songs you quoted is actually quite moving.
I won’t requote them, but they reminded me of parts of the ‘Song of Solomon’. *cough*
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Kris, are you taking the piss or what? Did you read all the lyrics?? Was Solomon a randy unfaithful prick?
If you want wedding rings
To put on your hands
Don’t look at me
I’m into one nite stands
The second song includes being gay and keeps repeating
My heart belongs to you
But my cock is community property
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Jack sometimes you appear to be beyond redemption. But hey God can do miracles — even with unrepentant individuals like yourself.
My other thought is that this anthropology business is all bunkum. Once you reject God then you just lower us to the level of animals. Is that all we are? Brute beasts?
It seems to mean no sane morality can survive this kind of thinking.
I am convinced that it is not true. We are not animals.
The good news is that we are created in the image of God. We have a moral sense. We can choose right from wrong. That’s why we need to aspire to the good, the beautiful, and the true. Marriage is part of that aspiration. To love someone your whole life. To be faithful to that person. Sure it takes work. But let’s face it. Things worth doing require a bit of effort.
So let’s aspire to something greater than ourselves people. Marriage is one of those great institutions we need to support. It is the building block of civilisation. It is the place where children can be raised knowing that their mum and dad will be with them to love and protect them.
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Not just that, she’s a beautiful model in her 20s, Swedish blonde, with a twin sister.
Jebus, Tiger, keep your eye on the prize buddy!
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Pete George 5:01 pm,
Ah, Yes and yes.
Didn’t you notice the *cough* ?
but it didn’t seem appropriate.
I would’ve put a
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
@PaulL at 3:03. Yes fair enough re their age. It would be interesting to re-survey them in 20 years time.
The survey I was looking for (and didn’t find) was one that asked people in a relationships what they valued, and ranked the top ten, for men and women.
There were plenty of differences, save for #1, which was faithfulness on both lists. Perhaps people value and expect of their partner that which they don’t have the resolve to offer in return… which is a recipe for disaster from day-1.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Pete George, I rarely agree with KK, but this is on the money, the Song of Solomon is quite pornographic and I often wonder how it survived.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
It survived billy, because G-d loves romance just as much as he likes adventure. He made men, men and women, women for a very good reason. Frankly I’m surprised you know that, most non-believers have no idea what the bible says, before they decide to reject it out of hand.
Unfortunately, today’s homosexual-transexual-metrosexual-feminist dynamic fostered by evil forces and believed only by the truly stupid seeks to separate people from their true nature. Unfortunately the evil ones are clever and the stupid ones are numerous and that combo is increasingly gaining ascendency, a fact that should make the astute biblical reader extremely alarmed.
As for Tiger and as an illustration of the times, the global media air-time spent on this vapid non-story, and more to come, is phenomenal. Too bad the MSM have lost their way re: what’s really important.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
What is surprising is how someone with Tiger’s profile would think that they could get away with something like this unnoticed.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Repton
Is there a monogamy pill?
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Pete George
That is exactly right.
I’m picking “Get real famous and become one of the worlds most recognisable people then start sleeping around on your wife” wasn’t on Tiger’s to-do list when he was a teenager. Poor bugger is afflicted with one of the most unfortunate conditions that can be bestowed on a creature, a requirement to operate according to two distinctly different game plans. One to guarantee survival of the vigor of humans as a species and one to keep order in the community. He needs to bite down on it. Declare he’s done a bad thing and change his ways or he needs to end his farce of a marriage and live the life of a billionaire playboy.
My heart bleeds for him.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:27 pm
But the kids Burt – he may or may not get a choice with his marriage now, but the kids could tear him up, he can’t just walk away from them. That’s presuming he cares about them.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Pete George
Chthoniid said before;
That is a much better way to say “It protects bloodlines” which is how I normally describe it.
However the problem I see with having dissolution of a marriage so easily (and frequently) wagered on monogamy failings is that we blow apart often otherwise mutually beneficial family units on one ‘banned’ behaviour. I often wonder if ‘Obey’ and ‘forsaking all others’ were intended as natural counterbalances in the marriage contract. However I digress.
This is a good example where monogamy (or an expectation of it from only one party – which is the real issue) tears a relationship apart. Apparently it’s happened before – did they “need to separate” the day before his wife found out ?
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
““I had 12 extra marrital affairs over 22 years of marriage, and only got found out on the last one.”
Why were you married?”
Perhaps because he liked someone to do the washing. Girlfriends wont do this.
Tiger Woods Inc is a sanctimonious prat. He’s spent years with this commercial goodie two shoes image. He made his bed now he has to lie in it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
And there’s lots of other things a girlfriend will do that a wife won’t.
He made his bed now he has to lie in it.
I’d say he has quite a choice of beds in which to lie.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I wonder if this will affect his game. If I were his wife, I’d be tempted to cheat on him. I’d tell Tiger “While you’re lining up that crucial putt on the 18th, I’ll be at home with your best friend, and no, we won’t be playing tiddlywinks. Good luck”. Seems fair.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
“you are moral barbarians”
True, but more accurately, they are products of the Progressive political culture. Not able to perceive of concepts like fidelity or self respect. No moral boundaries. Selfish narcissists who will do anything if they think nobody is watching, which is of course is the most important time of all for self restraint and decency.
The funny thing is they are the very people you will often find here bemoaning the state of NZ but who do not realise it is their own moral bankruptcy that empowers the left. Fools to themselves they are easily manipulated and exploited by equally morally corrupt socialists.
There is no appeal that can be made to these people on the basis of decency or morality, and it is this nihilism that the power obsessed socialists are most grateful for, because it clears a pathway for their own corrupt endeavours on a much more expansive scale.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
reid (3457) Vote: 1 0 Says:
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
It survived billy, because G-d loves romance just as much as he likes adventure.
What colour are god’s eyes?
Frankly I’m surprised you know that, most non-believers have no idea what the bible says, before they decide to reject it out of hand.
Maybe I’m not like most non believers. I know what I reject and why I reject it. I played hide and seek with god for a long time, but he always hid, never sought.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
“man who hits ball with
stick cheats on wife” sensation!
stop the freakin’ press
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
From a female’s perspective it does make you wonder what a woman has to do to keep the dog on the porch these days.
The wife, as DPF has pointed out is not exactly falling from the ugly tree and appears no less or more bland that Tigger.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Whether she is a looker or not has nothing to do with how easy she (or he) is to live with. What’s best, a beauty with a scowl, or a plain smile? What’s more attractive, a wandering eye or eyes that light up when the catch your own? The tits test only lasts 5 minutes.
He may have lost the relationship buzz, or he may just be a wandering dick as some guys are.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
“Perhaps because he liked someone to do the washing. Girlfriends wont do this.”
for godsake don’t tell
my girlfriend she’s not s’posed to
do washing for me
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Listen to all these people telling us what their God (aka imaginary, unproven non-existent being) thinks. Generally intelligent people, who fall for this. Amazing. MNIJ is a complete retard when it comes to everything else, but on this we agree
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Oh cactus, you are so naive. If a guy has a hot wife/girlfriend there is no reason to stray…classic
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
For the record, I have read the bible numerous times and know more about it than almost any religious nutter I debate it with. It’s amusing when they claim I reject it without knowing it. I reject it BECAUSE I know it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
“I played hide and seek with god for a long time, but he always hid, never sought.”
Yes, He would have let you know Billy. He always does, without fail.
It’s just that you missed it, or weren’t even trying, perhaps thinking it was up to Him to show Himself as opposed to the other way round. I mean, why would the Creator of the Universe be at all interested in you? What have you ever been or done?
And yet the amazing thing is Billy, that He IS interested in you and everyone else. But it’s your choice, and He won’t fail you IF your choice is genuine. Of course if you’re just making it up then He knows that and what do you expect?
December 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
come on reid, answer the question – what colour are god’s eyes?
and supplementary question – why does the omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent creator of the universe have such a thing about showing his face in public?
December 3rd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Has anyone considered it might be all a jack up so Tiger ends up with a Nike swish scar on his face from the crash. Perhaps he just really hates wearing caps that much.
December 4th, 2009 at 2:01 am
The sponsorship opportunities are endless: Viagra/Cialis – “18 holes later and Tiger’s still got wood”; Durex – “Unleash your Tiger”; Ping – “Tiger Special edition balls……….built to survive even the Sweedish Match play”.
This is a cartoonist/comics dream.
December 4th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Who cares if it’s the natural state or not.
The point is that you do not get married unless you make a vow to the other person, to yourself, to God and/or the state (whichever your inclination), and to whoever else you have chosen to witness your marriage.
As others have pointed out, if you can’t stick to one person, don’t get married in the first place. Because if you do, and then you break that vow with another person, it shows that you are a weak person that does not deserve trust.
No amount of money, prowess at sport, level of intelligence, quantity of friends etc etc etc can ever take away from the fact that you’ve broken what is meant to be the most serious spoken promise of your life. We are NOT animals. We are intelligent beings who are meant to understand what we are doing.
Now all I have to do is make sure I stay loyal to my husband so that I do not have to eat my own words.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Do you think he might want to get some sun on his forehead? He may be tired of his two tone face.
December 4th, 2009 at 6:30 am
FFS what a beat up over nothing, just ask any golfer and they’ll tell you that you can in a lot of trouble at the 19th hole.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Not true. Some people just marry for money and an easy life*. And God isn’t even invited to the ceremony. In that case, is it OK for the other party to play around?
*As a South African friend once said: ‘money breeds well’.
December 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am
FFS if he felt the need to play away it’s his business, why everybody wants hump their morals off on someone they don’t know is beyond me.
Tigers Mrs is stunner, and if he pays the airfare I have no problem about popping over to give her a good shagging if he’s not keen on doing it himself, it’s a shitty job but someone has to do it.
December 4th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
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December 4th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Tigers Mrs is stunner, and if he pays the airfare I have no problem about popping over to give her a good shagging if he’s not keen on doing it himself, it’s a shitty job but someone has to do it.
I thought it was billiards, not golf, that gave you the choice of pink or brown.