In public view
Oh dear. Whale has the photos and a story. Some clever Labour activists were out campaigning for Len Brown. To maximise publicity for Len, they parked his sign written van outside a popular nightclub.
Not so smart, is they left an e-mail printout face up on the dashboard in plain view – and a civic minded citizen took a photo.
Whale summarises:
Now we known without a shadow of a doubt the paid Labour staffers are helping Len Brown’s campaign and that they think that the left wing campaign on the North Shore is “bizarre” and has “faction problems”.
Nice of them to share this with the world.
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Tags: Auckland Council, Labour, Len Brown
September 6th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Ineptitude on this scale is argument enough against voting for their man.
Not that ineptitude ever stopped north shore voters.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
god i hate local elections.
DPF – any chance you could do a list of right wing candidates for us?
September 6th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Dime, any chance you could take the time to judge the candidates on their merits and make your own decisions rather than trying to get someone else to tell you if candidates were supposedly “right” enough.
Too much dipstick voting results in too many dipsticks being elected.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
…they think that the left wing campaign
on the North Shorein Aucklandin New Zealand is“bizarre” and has “faction problems”.filled with morons – who wish to run your lives for you.September 6th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Obviously you and Whaleoil live in some strange parallel universe to the rest of us DPF.
John Key has been campaigning for both Bob Parker and John Banks and I guess that is fine, so why is it such a revelation that ‘paid labour staffers’ are helping Len Brown?
The email says little more than some people with left wing connections are standing for the council and Phil Goff shouldn’t show any favoritism with his comments at a meeting.
Move along people nothing to see here….
[DPF: Where did I say there was anything wrong? I just think it is funny that one would leave an e-mail like that face up on the dashboard in a candidate's publicly marked vehicle]
September 6th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Pete – I just dont care enough.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Dime – that is the biggest problem with our democracy, too many don’t care enough.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Over in Penrose one of the local SFWU … erm. STFU? SVWU? It’s one of those generic fucking unions, I can’t remember the acronymn now. They’re actively campaigning for Len Brown as well, putting up billboards and so forth.
:shrugs:
Big money in politics. It’s only bad when it’s not from a socialist.
September 6th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Pascal
Close, try this; Big money in politics. It’s only bad when it’s not being donated to socialists.
September 6th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Local body elections often make me laugh. People think that being mayor or on the council is some big deal. I am stuck in the frame of mind that local councils are about water, wastewater, rubbish collection, local roads and other essential services. The last thing we need are idealistic pie-in-the-sky candidates or unions telling us what to do. We just need people with managerial and people skills who can manage these services to keep our towns, cities and districts functioning. The less they are in our face the better they are I say.
September 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
“Big money in politics. It’s only bad when it’s not from a socialist”
It is the worker that misses out here. If unions were not involved in politics or gave money to political parties, consider how much less “tax” union workers would pay.
September 6th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Pascal: “SFWU … erm. STFU? SVWU?”
I read “NSFW”
Which is strangely appropriate
September 6th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
DILIGAF
September 6th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
YesWeDid, I agree with you. There isn’t a lot to see here other than a slightly amusing discretion blunder.
However, If a Banks or Parker campaign vehicle turned up with National party correspondence on the dashboard “The Standard” authors and commenters would be going f%&king nuts about it.
September 6th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
From: Gina Giordani
Sent: Monday, 6 September 2010 2:56 p.m
To: Rachael Heard
Subject: RE: Future of Auckland mtg tomorrow- little update
———————————————————————–
Idiot.
Gina Giordani
Secretary to Darien Fenton MP
September 6th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Grizz said
Indeed Grizz. And it was the SFWU which had to levy members to cover a defict of $167,364 when their campaign to re-elect Labour in 2005 went seriously over budget. Here’s what I blogged about this a couple of years ago:
Yes, big money is only a problem when the right has it and the left doesn’t
September 6th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Pete – I clearly care about National politics. But i dont care enough about the local idiots to troll through their individual sites trying to figure out what they stand for.
Party affiliations help. From there i decide if the candidate is a snapperhead or not.
September 6th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
That’s going to be about as effective at learning anything about candidates as watching the 6pm surreality TV shows.
You read (presumably) and post on a political blog. I thought you might had a slight inkling of reality.
Local body candidates aren’t labeled “right wing party supporter” or “not a snapperhead”. Even if they were we would still keep getting far too many “right party, wrong credentials” candidates elected.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Any chance that this email was constructed by someone other than the Labour Party then put on a dashboard of a car and a photo taken?
To me it seems far too unlikely to have happened by chance
September 6th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
The left is always rent by factions (just look at the Australian federal government of the last few years!) while the right never is.
I put this down to the fact that the left is filled with precious prima donnas who all think they should be leader and when they can’t, start their own faction so they can be leader of something. They mistake spending all their time stabbing one another in the back as working on behalf of the people they represent because, after all, what could be more important than their own advancement… after which they’ll get round to improving NZ, honest they will.
While the right is filled with time servers who don’t have the energy or intelligence to schism (unless they were ever made to pay for their own lunch) and who mistake scoffing pies (quail ones, of course) and quaffing Pinot while swapping theories about how the poor are responsible for their own plight as doing their bit for politics in this country.
On that basis, I look for lack of party affiliation on any ballot paper.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Have you seen the photo of the sign painted van it was seen in? (See the full deal on Whale’s blog ?
If anyone was going to go to that much trouble I think they would have been a bit meatier with the contents.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
When the they had the Amalgamation in Christchurch. The right split into two faction one with the figure-head by Hamish Hay however another group was led by Margaret Murray. The result was the People Republic of Christchurch which remain until the second term of Gary Moore.
The right are perfectly able to be as factional as the left.
September 6th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Inky_the_Red: Fair call, I should have said “rarely”, not “never”.
September 6th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
“While the right is filled with time servers who don’t have the energy or intelligence to schism (unless they were ever made to pay for their own lunch) and who mistake scoffing pies (quail ones, of course) and quaffing Pinot while swapping theories about how the poor are responsible for their own plight as doing their bit for politics in this country.”
How weird. What alternate universe did you just time warp in from Rex?
The right come from all walks of life and are basically united by one objective- keeping the left’s thieving hands away from our earnings and their obsessive regulations out of our faces. We seek out politicians who can progress these ideas, but in NZ, they’re as scarce as rocking horse shit. Hence many people’s uncertainty as to who to vote for.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
So, Red, do I take it you’re holding out the likes of Melissa Lee, Kanwal Bakshi and Sam Lotu-liga as being other than mediocre time-servers with their snouts in the trough as deeply as anyone you’ll find on the left? I’m fairly sure you’ll say no, and probably try and run the argument that the National Party aren’t really the right. Nor Act (Donna Awatere, Rodney’s perk-grasping etc). But they’re NZ’s right, so my comment above rings true, I think.
And if the right’s only agreed objective is keeping the left out of power then that explains everything about the complete lack of vision we have in NZ politics.
I’d rather have a ballot paper with choices ranging from you through to Matt McCarten and beyond, Red. I’d then know exactly who and what I was voting for… not “left” or “right” but people with a solid foundation of principle and whom I could reasonably expect to adhere to them once elected. Call me weird, but I’d probably tick the both of you on a ballot paper before I chose most of the lacklustre drones we have “representing” us today.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Good comment rex, that’s the best bitchslap of the ‘baiter I’ve seen for a while.
September 6th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Call me weird, but I’d probably tick the both of you on a ballot paper before I chose most of the lacklustre drones we have “representing” us today.
That is a bit weird. You’d cheerfully turn the country upside down over the ‘same old same old’ approach?
September 6th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Well I’ll say it before Red does. None of them are right, not even Rodney nor Donna. Donna was dishonest; That’s left for starters and even Key called his Govt. centre left.
At least with Rodney we have a good idea of his idea’s and policy.
The only one who really thinks right is Hone. Think about that. Go read his speeches.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
“You read (presumably) and post on a political blog. I thought you might had a slight inkling of reality.
Local body candidates aren’t labeled “right wing party supporter” or “not a snapperhead”. Even if they were we would still keep getting far too many “right party, wrong credentials” candidates elected.”
fuckin hell dude. thats why i asked dpf to create some sorta list. you know, get a political junkie who will know things like – ex national mp etc etc
September 6th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
These clowns could be in line for top jobs in the Irish intelligent services.
September 6th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Ahhh dime, you want DPF to vote for you then. Of course you will do your own ticking.
I’m with Rex on selecting who to vote for, people with gumption and integrity and who will put the interests of the country first are far more important than some insipid colour. Some seem to get intoxicated on the idea of having all MPs thinking and doing exactly like them. That would be the worst thing we could have, no matter who they were cloned on.
I’d listen to DPF if he offered a few details or recommendations (in effect he does that here), but as part of a wider selection process.
September 6th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
So what you’re saying Rex is we should confiscate their food allowance and then in their fury they’d start working for us?
Works for me.
Unless of course they remain concerned primarily with re-acquiring their previously-free quail pie, which seems likely.
Crikey it’s a bit of a riddle wrapped in an enigma inside a mystery, isn’t it.
September 6th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
stephen asks:
“Upside down” depends on which way you’re looking stephen. I see a country brought to it’s knees by political ineptitude, its head in the sand thinking tinkering with MMP will save it (just like it thought MMP itself would save it) and its unprotected arse in the air waiting for foreign multinationals to bugger what they didn’t get at last time. And our “representatives” smile, wave, backstab and bludge while blaming the victim du jour (“dole bludgers”, “capitalists”, “socialists”, “rednecks”, “right”, “left”, ad infinitum).
Turn that upside down and you’ve got a country standing on its own two feet, looking to the future, choosing from a range of visions articulated by real leaders who also knew it was their duty to listen.
Upside down? Yes please.
reid:
With most of them, starving would take too damn long. We’d be waiting a year or two before the likes of Parekura and Paula noticed we’d turned off the tap
September 6th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
“I see a country brought to it’s knees by political ineptitude…”
Now there’s your problem, Rex.
I see a country alive with the sound of music, the OPENING sequence. It works for me, really well.
September 6th, 2010 at 10:43 pm
“james. james, can you hear me?” no, you don’t have to actually be IN a car to cause a wreck
September 7th, 2010 at 9:54 am
No Pete, i do not want DPF to do my voting for me.
But it would make life easier if the nutbars, greenies, labour lovers were weeded out of the equation.
example
Candidiate A – current member of the green party, thinks pete george is a good bloke.
I know straight away not to bother researching that person.
Candidate B – member of the act party. successful career in business. loves hookers.
I know straight away i will research this dude.
is that clear enough for you pete?
September 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I wonder if that isn’t the problem we have with our elections, our government and all of that.
Somebody may be a member of the ACT party but so far right wing that they are essentially just a different flavoured nut job.
Whilst you may (Hey, pigs CAN fly if you have a big enough catapult) find that there is a Green Party member who cares about the environment but who’s political leanings are right of center and have a significant cross over on policies that would suit your local area.
But of course, that candidate has been automatically excluded. It seems a bit narrow minded to me.