Labour on Papatoetoe electoral fraud
September 26th, 2010 at 10:44 am by David FarrarThe Herald reports:
The Labour Party will take action if any of its members were found to have been involved in a possible Auckland Super City voting scam involving the Papatoetoe ward, party president Andrew Little says.
What sort of action? Promote them? Or censure them for getting caught?
The last time a Labour person was accused of corruption, the Labour leadership’s response was to defend him by saying the only thing he was guilty of was working harder for his constituents than other MPs.
So presumably if a Labour candidate is found to be behind the enrolment scam, the line will be that they are just guilty of trying to help people enrol.
Tags: Andrew Little, electoral fraud, Labour
September 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Why is Little running off to the media now? Does this confirm the widespread perception that it IS the Labour Party candidates who are being investigated? It certainly seems to be an exercise in damage limitation from Andrew Little.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Don’t you ever get sick of muck raking and spinning everything to the max?
You’re just so boringly predictable.
[DPF: I find it amusing that you get more upset by my highlighting tolerance of corruption, than you do of the actual corruption itself]
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am
@ YesWeDid – Little has as good as ‘fessed up that candidates standing under the Labour Party banner have acted corruptly. DPF doesn’t have to spin anything.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Did we bribe students through student loans interest? – Yes We Did
Did we steal taxpayers money for our campaigning? – Yes We Did
Did we subvert the democratic process? – Yes We Did
Did we get caught? – Yes We Did
Did we enact retrospective legislation to get away with it – Yes We Did
Did we seek to stack the electoral roll in the Super City elections – Well what do you think??
Labour – the way, the truth, the light [of the corrupt]
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 11:04 am
“….muck raking and spiining everything to the max…..”
Entirely possible, of course, that some people regard corruption in the electoral process as something worthy of comment. Some, however, are equally keen to see it swept under the carpet. Their problem is that they are outnumbered and when the weight of repulsion and public opinion brings the facts in to the open, they not only looks stupid, they look complicitous as well.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 11:04 am
@bhudson – Will Banks become the super city mayor? – no he won’t
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Oh yes, and when Garrett got sprung for faking a passport you suggested promoting him to the ‘industrial relations’ portfolio.
Your moral compass seems in about the same place as Labour’s.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am
YesWeDid,
Of course not, your wholeome political ways will see to that won’t they? [Normal people refer to those ways as corruption of course]
Good on you. Set the benchmark
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
If the Labour had said ‘will not take action if any of its members were found to have been involved in a possible Auckland Super City voting scam’ then what would you be saying?
What if it turns out that some National Party people were involved in some other scam relating to local body elections? How would they be punished by the Nats? Or would the Nats just say we are not involved in local bodies and wash there hands of it?
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
YesWeDid, a name harking back to the good old days when all Ebola was expected to do was talk shite and smile. Little did the deluded morons who backed him to the hilt know he had to actually, you know, govern.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
how could they possibly say what sort of action, if it hasn’t been established if and what kind of involvement has taken place?
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Dear Inky,
I think you will find the reason that Labour has come out the way it has is that only once candidate has had their computer taken for evidential purposes. And that would be, um, gee, lets see, um, I wonder who? Little is getting in early, so that damage is limited. Sad really, the intellectuals (LMFAO) in the left corner will do ANYTHING to regain power.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
On the face of it, this seems to be getting very little media coverage. Electoral fraud damages a fundamental democratic right. This seems to have escaped some people.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Lyttles intervention is very interesting. The labour party has a long history of dodgy behavior most recently with field where they merely acknowledged the verdict, but several electoral petitions have criticized the labour party. Wel I suppose they will take some action against party members, but I bet they do not do much.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
“The labour party has a long history of dodgy behavior…”
Yes it’s peculiar isn’t it, given that lefties claim they’re all about humanity and human rights, etc. Deliberately undermining the democratic process is just about the very worst thing any political party could do, yet Liarbore seem to do it all the time, as a matter of course.
Perhaps it’s because they have a cause, so that’s OK then.
Interestingly it’s not confined to any particular individual but rather seems engrained within the very fabric of the party. Leading one to the inevitable conclusion the only solution is to destroy the entire rotten edifice. The world would become a better place.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Fraud, cheating, thieving, graft, deception for pecuniary advantage, grand larceny, and grand theft of tax payer funds on a consistent basis in repeated expenses scandals.
Hmmmmm. Quite an impressive culture for a ‘caring political organisation’.
All these intellectual, risk averse, zero business experience types concern themselves with. Power, control, and personal gain by collective
corruption. Just the same in labour parties around the World. The reason they have their International Conferences. Plenary sessions on
denial, plastic swipe techniques, deniability, point scoring, and talking bollox about just about everything whilst bribing the feckless and neer do wells. The Bludger Party.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
As an aside, I wonder if Daljit Singh’s computer had any pictures of strinkingly attractive Indian women on it, posing with Phil Goff; just a thought …
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
Poor old Inky, is it your turn today to make and ass of yourself? Typical lefty, change the conversation, divert and distract, when all hope is lost. Face it Inky your Liarbore mates are lying, cheating, bullshitting scum and no amount of “what if”will change a damn thing.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Let me guess. They’ll whine and obfuscate, and their Socialist pals in the MSM will give them an easy ride.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
Inky you can hardly blame the leftards for retreating into fantasy land, reality for them is looking pretty fucking grim at the moment. Good times !
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
The big question is whether the police will act before 9 October.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
YesWeDid (182) Says:
September 26th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Don’t you ever get sick of muck raking and spinning everything to the max?
You’re just so boringly predictable.n
Least we forget YWD and re-elect an economically illiterate and morally bankrupt Labour government again. Or would you prefer to forget that the last two times a Labour government was removed from office they left the books in a mess and that the last Labour government illegally bought the 2005 election using taxpayers money and then tolerated corruption to stay in power? Inconvenient truths perhaps.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Jeez YesWe’reDumb , if you’re sick of hearing about your guys’ corruption, maybe your guys could stop being corrupt ? Wacky thought, I know, being responsible for your actions…
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Over at The Standard, there’s an interesting spin. Irish Bill says that it looks like a “Labour Party” person is responsible, but that Labour Party local body candidates aren’t REALLY part of the Labour Party. Methinks they’re getting desperate!
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
An election is what decides who constitutes our rulers, who make and control the enforcement of our laws. Yes indeed, Yes We Did, Inky et al what could be more trifling than that?
Then again there are those of us who, like myself, who think electoral fraud is essentially akin to sedition in that it seeks to undermine legitimate government, and should be punished accordingly.
I find it puzzling you don’t agree. I presume you cheered at the coronation of King Gerry I, then? Not as serious as this, I’ll grant you… which is precisely why I ask.
Vote:September 26th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
well staying within context, this is what Liarbour did
From Bernard Hickey
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10676075
Vote:September 27th, 2010 at 12:56 am
The Labour Party must about now, be wishing Helen was here, to you know, draft that retrospective validating legislation. She is very good at it apparently. $800k worth last time round, so whats a few voting irregularities between corrupt friends.
It’s “justified” according to Chris Trotter if it keeps National out, only they are not “in” local government … oh well, I suppose corruption is still OK just the same by his measure.
How anyone could take local body election results with anything less than a grain of salt is remarkable. The system is so open to corruption, as we have seen in South Auckland, and guess which Party polling below 35% is doing it.
I will be taking the Labour candidate’s vote in South Auckland particulry, good or bad, knowing it will have been achieved by fraud. That is how Labour works.
Vote:September 27th, 2010 at 7:09 am
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