Who will get what in ACT
April 30th, 2011 at 9:06 am by David FarrarSome big decisions for Don Brash and ACT this week. They include:
- Who will be Deputy Leader – Boscawen or Roy
- Who will be Parliamentary Leader – Boscawen, Roy or Hide?
- Will ACT seek to retain two Ministerial roles?
- If yes, which two MPs will be Ministers?
- And what portfolios will they seek and get?
- Who amongst the ACT parliamentary staff will keep their jobs, and who might return there?
- Will Don move to install a new President and/or Board over time (he has said the President is an issue for another day)
Interesting times ahead.
Related posts:
- ACT confirms Isaac
- Boscawen to be ACT’s parliamentary leader
- Boscawen to replace Roy
- Boscawen retires
April 30th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Interesting times ahead indeed, Clusterfarrar.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Please — not Roy. For anything!
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Brash’s priority seems to be what he will get in Government, but he’s going to have to put those ambitions on hold for a few months and get down to the nitty gritty. Or maybe he will just delegate those responsibilities.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:22 am
For the sake of ACT…
1) Boscowen
Vote:2) Definitely not Roy
3) Not impt
4) Anybody but Roy or Hillary
5) They will seek but might not get anything in return
6) I suspect the purge will begin Monday. I feel bad for them.
7) No hurry, although he has shown he doesn’t want Hide to keep his portfolios so he may want a complete clear out.
April 30th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Harsh call Right Wing Dad; harsh, but fair
Has the new name stuck DPF?
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:31 am
It wasn’t DPF who said:
“I am also pretty sure that Banks and Brash know that electorally they are rat poison as candidates. They are both pensioners with Brash over 70. They also both know that their best years politically are behind them.”
It will depend on who is left in Act, and who gets recruited.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Roy is completely hopeless. I’ve no idea how she came to be an ACT candidate. I think she walked through the wrong door or something.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Brash doesn’t have a mandate yet – he should wait until he’s proved himself with the public before making demands about ministers.
It would be petty to strip Hide of his ministerial roles and also stupid – the election is only a few months away.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:50 am
It would help, PG@9.31am, if you could attribute the quote you have used, or have you taken this opinion as yours?. The statement is of course nonsense; Brash and especially Banks are not naive, they know that they have a high level of electoral support (Banks will fly in in Epsom if he chooses to stand – the defeat by Len Brown was predictable because of the Left wing vote in the South and West). Banks is not yet a ‘pensioner’ (he is younger than Winston) but that aside being a ‘pensioner’ these days is no disadvantage; a wise, experienced man, in good health is likely to me more dependable than a tyro. And pensioners of course are a very large voting block.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:53 am
This wont take too long to sort out.
The interesting times ahead is when ACT hold National to account for trying to bankrupt NZ to stay popular borrowing and spending money NZ cant afford. Cheers John.
Johns outta here as soon as he is not PM anymore. Like fuck John Key is going to stay in a country he mortgaged to the hilt to stay popular and actually see first hand the real consequences.
Interesting times ahead for sure.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Good point. ACT should press for a public examination of the climate change “science.” People will be shocked by the lies.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Trout, I just didn’t bother repeating everything from here.
Wat – yes, it would be a good idea if Act properly examined the whole climate issue, not just from an immediate business cost point of view.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:59 am
1. Who will be Deputy Leader – Boscawen or Roy – Ans Boscawen
Vote:Who will be Parliamentary Leader – Boscawen, Roy or Hide? ans Hide
Will ACT seek to retain two Ministerial roles? Ans – statas Quo
If yes, which two MPs will be Ministers? Ans – statas Quo
And what portfolios will they seek and get? Ans – statas Quo
Who amongst the ACT parliamentary staff will keep their jobs, and who might return there? Ans – Clean-out afetr election
Will Don move to install a new President and/or Board over time (he has said the President is an issue for another day)
Yes -= it will be Don’s team
April 30th, 2011 at 10:12 am
DPF, all this really puts your triennial bleating about how undemocratic Labour is for letting affiliated union members vote in their local electorate selections and how all powerful ‘head office’ is into perspective. It’s clear that ACT members have been the least of anyone’s concern in all this. I almost feel sorry for them. But not really.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Brash has all but said what he is after. He discounted a significant role with a handful of seats but said (in effect) that it would be a different story if he doubles the numbers. He does not have the leverage to ask too much at this stage and he is unlikely to bluff it. He will now work his way into a position where National has got to take notice and re-act. I would not rule out some talk in the background — maybe even a statement of common ground — to try and prevent stoush between the Nats and Act. The last thing Brash wants is some idealogical battle with the Nats that could allow labour to gain momentum.
Vote:Brash’s first priority — leverage. He has some but not enough.
April 30th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Enzo
Vote:You presuppose that the grassroot membership disapproves. I suspect that this is where Brash got his groundswell support and what turned the tide against Rodney. Membership was dwindling, as I understand it. Look now for a resurgence
April 30th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Brash will fuck it up especially if he continues to get policy advice from the same clowns who dished it out before and lately.
He is one person FFS.
If he drags that other failed elderly politicial has been into Epsom they will crash and burn. Only you ardent Brash followers will vote for them.
If Banks goes into ACT then that will containminate ACT’s Brand with poision. Many of you(Brash included) for some reason run the line that Rodney has done that. Well Banks will do it even more.
Rodney’s major negative is his not so sellable on TV persona. Brash ain’t a lot better but Banks is just rubbish. And now of course he doesn’t have a radio mouth piece to shout from.
We managed to rid NZ of poisiones, venonmous politicians in the last election and frankly who wants another one back.
Banks should go to New York and join Helen.
Key will come out fighting now, and with support of a large apparatus. Key plays to win and he is popular.
Consider the number of stragegy wins that he ha had in the last four years.
How many have Brash and Banks had?
Go back and read yesterdays GD from this morning.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Enzo – don’t be silly. Show me a political party where the grassroots membership determine caucus responsibilities and staff appointments?
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 10:49 am
So … Brash has inherited a funny farm of incompetent autocrats. This is going to be fun.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 10:51 am
“Brash has inherited a funny farm of incompetent autocrats. This is going to be fun.”
You are confused MB, he’s not running The Greens, its Act.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Whatever anybody gets, Hide should be chucked out once and for all. On Sunday evening he is appearing on a crap ‘reality’ show where he wasts his time and our taxpayers’ salary pretending to be a teacher aid for everybody’s voyeuristic amusement. This man is an absolute disgrace. He has no dignity at all. Clown.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 11:19 am
um – yeah AOR. You’re forgetting that it’s Boscowen who has spent a fortune trying to take us back to the minority dictatorship system of FPP. National ruled with only 35% of the popular vote in 1993. That’s a pretty poor excuse for democracy. Roy has been caught engaging in some laughably childish antics on the internet, showing she lacks the maturity needed for her role.
Most people in the Greens seem to want a decentralised, participatory democracy of sorts. That’s real government for the people, by the people. Act wants the law of the jungle/market to rule – not democracy. The tyranny of money (which is simply a way of storing energy), is a morality of “might makes right”. They see taxing the rich as an authoritarin act – but they forget that the owners of capital, enjoy the privileged position of exploiting people and environment for personal gain, only at the majority’s sufferance. The problem is, the world is not enough for these people. They can never have enough power. One day, they will call the rest of us out to war if they get their way.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I would guess Boscawen would be the best choice as deputy on the principle of healing wounds – he also seems to be the most capable of the present Act MPs.
Vote:As for ministerial roles etc, I should think the best approach is not rocking the boat. Leave well be – it is only for 7 months. Petty squabbles about jobs, now, would be a major distraction.
I seem to recall the president making a very nasty personal attack on Brash just a few days ago… If I am right, he should step down.
Getting stroppy might be pleasing to the hardliners who want the Government dragged kicking and screaming to the right, but would be counterproductive because it will deter middleground voters from National. That in turn would be bad for Act too.
The ultimate objective for Act must be to shift middleground voters rightward. That is more important than taking votes from the Nats. They need to remember that National is their ally not their enemy. Strategy should be directed to building up their joint support, not destroying National.
April 30th, 2011 at 11:33 am
V2
Vote:I hope that you are right and that Key does come out fighting – not just with a large aparatus but, more importantly, a sellable policy. For a start, he can wipe WFF and its bureaucratic support. This was simply tax deduction in disguise but called welfare to make cullen feel generous. WFF can be accommodated into the tax system without a gazillion civil servants involved.
April 30th, 2011 at 11:44 am
@George Patton I’m not just referring to the substance of this post. It’s the whole thing. A complete hostile takeover of a political party by people who aren’t members of it. From the leader to the candidate for the one seat they hold and no doubt shortly to the list, without any lip service to democracy at all. I for one am finding the whole thing quite chilling.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 11:51 am
What a repellent lot.
Vote:We really do have to vote for John Key and National to keep all these has-beens and no-hopers out – ACT, Greens, Labour etc.
April 30th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I’m looking forward to what’s happening within ACT .. genuine interest. If done correctly, they could become a major player again. They have smart powerful people and backing (or so it seems) unlike the upcoming train wreck, the Moana Party full of the weired and wonderful .. well, maybe not wonderful. The Moana, or Mana or MOFO party have potential, the potential to lead NZ to a place we REALLY don’t want to go. A race based shit-fight.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Enzo:
It does not take much reading of the tea-leaves:
1) Key introduces concomitant pieces of legislation, which disregard one of our primary constitutional documents, the Bill of Rights Act. i.e no more right to silence,
2) Further laws make justice harder to seek for most of us – slashing the legal aid system, and changes to the Jury System, which unilaterally did away with our rights under 800 years of common law.
3) Urewera 17 are denied trial by Jury.
4) Rugby world cup provides perfect setting for the expression of great unrepresented sentiments of our era to be highlighted across the world, by peaceful protest. Particularly as it takes place jut prior to a domestic election.
…. you do the math.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Dr Brash held informal talks with caucus members over dinner and breakfast yesterday, and it is understood he wants to strip Mr Hide of his portfolios, which include Local Government.
Unbelievable arrogance!
Like Brash has the authority to pick cabinet!
Personally if Rodney has to give up portfolios then I would think it easiest to give to another current minister for a 6 month babysit
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
magic bullet,
Your mum’s calling. Your bath is ready.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
wat eww – don’t talk about your wife that way. she isn’t that much older than me.
Splish, splash, i tagged her in the bath…
Vote:lol, she’s a kinky one!
April 30th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
son?
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
yes- your long-lost Oedipus. watch out dad. did you know she likes to be held under water whilst ….. peeing. you messed her up dad.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
“Urewera 17 are denied trial by Jury.”
Vote:Totally off topic here, I know, but everyone seems to forget that the Crown (as prosector) represents the rest of us great unwashed and is entitled to a fair trial as well.
Let’s just see what the Supreme Court says about it this week.
April 30th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
first time caller says:
And petulance. And lack of good grace. And an indication of just what sort of all-or-nothing attitude Act now have at their helm – hardly conducive to coalition. I disagreed with the way in which Rodney went about implementing the Supercity but implement it he did, along with other initiatives. We’ve heard from David Garrett that Rodney’s a canny political operator – and my observations back that up.
So why seek to completely wipe him off the political map, when he still has much to offer in terms of strategic advice and mastery of his own portfolios? Especially when Rodney wasn’t petulant or defensive and made various overtures to Brash… he hasn’t given any indiucation he’ll destabilise or white ant Brash, so what’s the latter so scared of?
He’s so far giving every impression of being an insecure little dictator for whom all this “my way or the highway” posturing is merely cover for something lacking at the core.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
I agree with you Rex. Why strip Rodney of his portfolios now? Even from a tactical point of view it would be better that Rodney continue to take the heat on them in the meantime.
Eventually the Supercity will be accepted and Aucklanders will be thankful for the change. Maybe when the public transport system starts working properly and the traffic jams subside.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
John Boscawen should without any doubt remain deputy. He is straight as a die, loyal, and lacking in guile – as he proved over the past week. He has also improved immensely in the House over the past 2 1/2 years. It the measure of the man that he is quite self deprecating of his own abilities.
Brash frankly would be very foolish to deny himself the benefit of Rodney’s skills in so many areas. He would need an army of “advisors” to even come close to providing what Rodney can, and even then, they would be people who had watched the fray, not been part of it.
Why be petty and strip Rodney of his portfolios? Don needs to remember that Rodney is in parliament – either as part of the ACT caucus or not – until November. Why tempt the devil to make work for idle hands? I would be very surprised if Rodney did anything other than do his best to make things work under the new management. I suspect he knew the way the wind was blowing well before Thursday.
Heather Roy is, they tell me, a very good organizer. She should be tasked with making sure the morning tea at caucus is all present and correct, and that there is both Trim and full cream milk available.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
David, your full endorsement of the highly efficient Heather Roy doesn’t go unnoticed.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Oh I hope so Manolo..despite being a fairly new member of the ACT party – but nowhere near as new as Don – I want it to prosper…
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
John Boscawen, who I have long admired, prolonged this coup by about five days. That is not the sort of decisiveness that Don should be looking to reward.
Only one person remotely deserves to be his deputy, and that’s Sir Roger Douglas.
And now you’re all bleating, “But he’ll make ACT unelectable.” Bollocks.
Not if they immediately begin a campaign attacking Key’s accusations that their policies are ‘extreme’. Point out in the simplest of terms that these are none other than the same policies that are employed in every New Zealand home – hardly to the right of Genghis Khan.
The thinkers on the Right are idea wholesalers – they haven’t got the slightest idea how to connect with ordinary voters. Once they learn the art of idea retailing, they will obliterate the left (in which I include the current National Party).
It’s just about telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth – and telling it relentlessly for the next seven months.
Once people learn the truth about what Key, Clark and the other populist cowards have been doing to them at their expense, the politicians will have nowhere to hide, and the true leaders can take over.
I repeat: it’s just about telling the truth.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
The ‘be kind to Rodney’ line expressed here does not wash for a number of reasons. Brash and his backers have assessed that Rodney’s ‘brand’ is damaged; his public persona and behaviour have alienated many Act voters. The polls have shown this. Act support is at an all time low under Hide’s leadership (at a time he was given a superb opportunity to promote Act ideas in a centre right Government). As a leader (and negotiator in a coalition) he lost his way (for me the last straw was the Auck City. Maori Statutory Board fiasco which he could have fixed). Many party members have also come to dislike him on a personal level; accusations of arrogance and bully boy tactics are not a good look. Skills he may have, (his early performances in the House v Winston are memorable) but a clean slate is required. Lame duck politicians (especially deposed leaders) are a dead weight on any party. Brash has to rebuild with good personel and a clear focus.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
ABR Anyone but Roy.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
John A a very insightful set of remarks, thanks for those.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
John Ansell 3:49 pm. Perhaps they could use the following approach with women who have children. With NZ borrowing
$300 m a week, can your kids afford to live here?
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
John Ansell (721) Says:
April 30th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I repeat: it’s just about telling the truth.
Straight out of the Tea Party Play Book.
What next? 10 Commandments in Public Schools? (Un)Intelligent Design treated as science? Teach the controversy?
For Brash to tell the truth, first he would have to know it, something that seems to have eluded him most of his life. As a political leader he makes a fucking good kiwi fruit farmer.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
For Brash to tell the truth, first he would have to know it, something that seems to have eluded him most of his life.
Alright MNIJ, get real specific. Give a Brash policy you disagree most with and explain what’s wrong with it.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Don’t hold your breath, Reid. Jack’s dedicated role is to smear by association, attribute extreme potential actions to people who have never thought of them, and fire ad hominem insults.
He wouldn’t recognise a political policy even if he fell over one in the street, unless it was wrapped up in his kind of fruit-loop cliches and witticisms.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Plotting to become “leader” of a party you haven’t even bothered to join.
Pretending to be the leader of a party when you are not in parliament.
Assuming to be able to tell the PM who can and cannot hold ministerial warrants, purely on the basis that you might get more than 5% of the vote at a yet to be held election.
All three demonstrate hubris, megalomania and a touch of the dictatorial, not attributes I fing appealing in a leader.
As to Brash’s policies, other than taking over ACT and rebranding it the Don Brash Clusterfuck, I don’t see he has proposed any.
His last real say in any public policy sphere was that to close the wages gap with Oz we need lower wages in NZ. A genuine disconnect with reality. If he had his way we’d all be living on 2 slices of corned beef and half a cup of boiled peas a day.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Jesus, I agree with your first three paragraphs Jack.
To that you can add, stripping your elected M.P of his portfolios, on ya Don
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
(for me the last straw was the Auck City. Maori Statutory Board fiasco which he could have fixed).
Well no Trout. That was Findlayson and his Maori support team. Unfortunately they hold more votes in caucus and Cabinet than Rodney and ACT. Get you head around the racism in Parliament and its affect on legislation.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
All three demonstrate hubris, megalomania and a touch of the dictatorial, not attributes I fing appealing in a leader.
Really?
None of those traits appear in him, to me Jack.
To me this tells the tail of a brave confident well planned and ultimately successful coup executed quickly with minimum fuss and muss and only the bare necessary blood shed which is inherent in the nature of these operations.
Had Brash been on Montgomery’s staff, Market Garden would not have failed, in other words.
That’s what it says to me and we are looking at the same evidence Jack. But I realise your mileage may vary.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Good Lord Ansel what pills you taking?
Douglas is unelectable as is Banks.
In Douglas’s case its a pity but that’s the Truth you go on about.
In Banks case he has proven it to be so and his Auckland experience will be mirrored everywhere. He will cause Party Votes to bleed because voters outside of Auckland just simply can’t stand the man. and no amount of bullshit and wishful thinking on your part will change that.
The game also changes if the Nats. put up a strong and credible candidate in Epsom and they have a choice.
John B displayed loyalty to his Leader and that’s exactly how it should be. Roy should be cut and sent packing. Any business leader in a takeover does exactly that with people disloyal to the incumbent. Many businesses do that with personnel that cause strikes and that kind of behavior and they rid themselves of everyone involved. Roy’s disloyalty wasn’t over policy but her attempt to become Helen of Roy the Second. Waste of space and votes. She looks deranged in her photo’s on the MSM.
Brash needs to be attacking Smith and Findlayson and those people for that’s where the money is being spent and wasted.
Apart from having to win an electorate Brash also has to find 40+ people who can be credible MP’s to form a list for him to be PM which is you wish. Not going to make it on party votes nor on the back of Banks who if it did happen would soon shaft him and consider himself the PM. That’s disloyalty and it would happen.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
well Reid, there is the old “rose tinted glasses” thing you know. Well known in National territory.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
The answer to all these questions is for a Stalin-esque Caucus, List, and Board purge. (Not literally!) The current ACT party needs to reconnect with its old activists and then it’s old voters.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
ha, many of them left when they got their pensions and others left because those that got their pensions and stayed didn’t bother to listen. for some reason they thought they knew it all.
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
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Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
V2 @ 7.20pm
Spot on!
Vote:April 30th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Once you’ve created a corpse, you don’t keep it hanging around stinking up the place, you bury it. I am amazed at all the ACT people who are so wedded to Hide that they can’t see this. ACT used to be about the policy agenda, it used to be about Roger Douglas’s Unfinished Business – what happened? You’ve become syncophants to the personality when the whole point has always been to get lower taxes and less government implemented in New Zealand. You’ve lost sight of what’s important and traded it for this charismatic shell. Well for me it’s always been about the policy. Hide’s skills and experience would be useful, but at the end of the day, he is electoral poison. The perk buster has been caught out taking the perks, and the bureaucracy smasher has spent the last three years building a massive bureaucracy in our largest city. Add to that the U-Turn on the gang patches and you have someone utterly discredited. No, you folk need to cut out this crap about Hide – he is spent – and focus on what is important. And if you can’t do that, then Brash should be embarrassed that he bothered to help your sorry arses out.
Vote:May 1st, 2011 at 6:20 am
ACT now look like the political wing of the NZ Branch of the KKK.
Vote:May 1st, 2011 at 7:16 am
Dr Brash will be looking to restructure ACT from top to bottom including strategy and the list, therefore any appointments made will be interim. Boscawen seems the likely choice to lead the parliamentary wing presently, however Dr Brash will be looking hard at ACT’s representation to determine it’s effectiveness.
Vote:May 1st, 2011 at 9:08 am
Who leads the Act Party from here to the election is barely relevent. The ACT party is gone and the interim management will have little impact in the longer term. This is now the Brash party, he has effected a takeover of the shell, gained the leadership and I suspect will now remodel the board before addressing the policy platform and the likely list candidates. It will most likely be close to that order as he will not want the current ACT board to have influence either in terms of policy or candidate selection.
If not handled carefully this forthcoming election could become a quite destructive battle between Brash and Key as National will already have realised that the only realistic voter base available to Brash already resides with National. So on the one hand Key will be looking to defend the inevitable erosion of voter support by ACT on the right and also attempting to fend of the centrists and lower middle income section worried about a lurch to the right wing politics of ACT from drifting back to the labou camp .
This could be a facinating election.
Vote:May 1st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I posted before that one of the reasons ACT had major fall off in membership over the last decade was its tendency to
ignore its members and direct from the top.
This policy saw the change away from an idealistic party representing individual responsibility and power, and choice.
When Prebble left the party he organised a truly democratic transfer, and I was proud of him.
Rodney won that transfer of leadership, but somehow we just became an unpopular populist party, and members like me drifted away.
Farrar’s analysis on ACT here has above is clean and tidy like most of his work.
It is a sad fact that Brash, and Douglas and even Hide himself draw utter derision and sometimes visceral hatred from many New Zealanders.
I could give many examples of how ACT over the years has utterly ignored its membership,
and now more than ever.
It is all very well for Brash to read about Napoleon, and then attack without reference,
and ignore the people, but the writing is on the wall already and the fury that was unleashed against Brash in 2005 will reappear.
And What does it mean to be on the Board of ACT, nothing.
What does it mean to be a paid up member of ACT.
It means nothing.
Why should I rejoin ACT when my vote means nothing.
God knows we need a saviour, but I would rather he had come as a paid up member.
I know Most of these New Zealanders are isolated here, and have no idea how far we have slipped down the scale. and that we need reality so maybe they will see a better side of the crusty old Brash firing off blanks in a better light, a more macho Brash, a more Muldoon like Brash.
But I doubt it
ACT hasn’t changed ; It is still a party for the privileged.
And the TV has not started on him yet, who will stand beside the man and tell him what to say and how to smile, and how to look good when his actions have been bad.
F
Vote:May 1st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
My God in heaven dude, I just looked up the ACT party site, and the new logo is there already,
Vote:Don Brash leader, is that organised or is that organised,
over at NZF the web site is years behind
May 1st, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I tried to pay membership to ACT, on their site
Vote:but as usual with internet join, they wanted names, numbers,
mothers genetic code,
sign in name from 2002,
join ACT here
fail