Mana Maori?

July 1st, 2011 at 8:03 pm by David Farrar

In my Herald column I look at the Mana and Maori parties and conclude that the sensible thing for the is to find a way to work with the , as united they will be stronger than fighting each other.

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14 Responses to “Mana Maori?”

  1. jaba (2,146 comments) says:

    the way that Harawira has treated and insulted the Maori Party, I will tell him to piss off and his so-called party would last 3 years and die .. he is a rebel with no diplomatic skills and a dead set racist who has no place in the countries Parliament

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  2. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    “and a dead set racist who has no place in the countries Parliament”

    Au contraire jaba: Hone would slot in quite comfortably with the joke bunch of turds we have as our Parliament!

    Little tiny bunch of sad racists and bloody socialist apologists?

    Seems he will fit in fine to me. :)

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  3. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    It all depends on how much they hate each other. At present it seems hard to imagine them even speaking civilly to each other let alone doing a deal. Labour to benefit from the result.

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  4. davidp (3,588 comments) says:

    >Labour to benefit from the result.

    How? Any party support for Mana is coming from Labour and the Greens because Maori is an electorate-only party. John Key will be able to remind voters that a vote for Labour is a vote for a Labour-Peters-Green-Mana coalition with Harawira, Minto, Bradford, and the other freaks. And if Labour take electorate seats off Maori then that just means they’ll get less List MPs while removing the threat of a Maori overhang deciding the election. This is all good news for National.

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  5. Shazzadude (531 comments) says:

    “It is very difficult to imagine that Mana could win another of the seven Maori seats.”

    Waiariki is most definitely winnable for the Mana Party should Annette Sykes stand.

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  6. mikenmild (11,719 comments) says:

    david

    The most likely scenario from Mana standing in the other Maori seats is to take votes from the Maori Party and leave Labour coming through the middle. I didn’t say it wasn’t good news for National, although they perhaps would prefer a tame Maori Party just as it it thank you. Labour wouldn’t say no to having more of the Maori seats.

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  7. Johnboy (16,994 comments) says:

    Considering they used to have them till the horrid Helen raised Tariana from the dead mikenmild it seems a tad cynical of you to state, “it wasn’t good news for National, although they perhaps would prefer a tame Maori Party”.

    It would really seem that Liarbour would really prefer a tame Maori Party! :)

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  8. davidp (3,588 comments) says:

    mikenmild>The most likely scenario from Mana standing in the other Maori seats is to take votes from the Maori Party and leave Labour coming through the middle.

    Every Maori seat they win is one less list seat they gain. It is only an advantage if you expect Labour to be in an overhang position, and their support would have to collapse for that to happen.

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  9. Seamonkey Madness (328 comments) says:

    Almost a conspiracy behind this.
    More money for the Maori Party in total after “renegade MP” gets leaders fund for whilst being the only MP of his “own” party.

    How does National stand with this? Working with a party that works with Hone? Didn’t Key rule out working with him? Hmmmm…

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  10. DJP6-25 (1,389 comments) says:

    I wonder when the newspapers will have the panel at the bottom of the colum for their ‘journalists’, like they do for DPF. [Insert name here] is a life ling socialist. In his/her spare time he/she works for the [insert name of socialist party here]

    could be a cold day in hell, I think.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  11. Manolo (14,060 comments) says:

    I disagree, DPF. I want the Maori racists to split more and more into infinitesimal miniscule and irrelevant political parties.

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  12. Paul1 (32 comments) says:

    It is wrong to suggest Mana takes just Maori support. Mana will take some labour support too. People are kidding if they think Mana will get over 1% at the election.

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  13. Dazzaman (1,145 comments) says:

    Evil thought Farrar.

    To join with the Mana party would be the death knell of the Maori Party as a viable entity for representation of more mainstream Maori, they’d go harder left in a flash…..bye bye to any potential coalition partnership from there for the center right.

    In agreement with mikenmild, it’d be a win only for labour.

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  14. georgebolwing (991 comments) says:

    The Mana Party are emerging as a very far left, statist party. I expect them to be calling for the nationalisation of the means of production, distribution and exchange shortly. They certainly believe strongly in the public provision of goods and services, on a near monopoly basis: I am pretty sure that they are against any form of public funding to priavte schools and hospitals and it would not surprise me if they regarded them as inappropriately diverting resources that should be available to the public sector.

    The Moari Party, while strongly in favour of state funding of services, are pretty passionately against (Pakeha) Government provisions of services: their attitude to private prisons being a prime example. Whanau Ora, despite a lot ambiguity, is about state funding of privately provided services. If applied to education, it would be called vouchers, which is ACT policy.

    So while the two parties might have something in common – the maori aspect – their core ideologies are worlds apart. Any accomodation would not withstand the first discussion of policy.

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