Jones positioning himself

August 25th, 2011 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

Claire Trevett at NZ Herald reports:

Labour MP has indicated he is weighing up his future in politics if he does not get strong endorsement from Maori voters in November’s general election.

Mr Jones said on Te Kaea on Maori Television he wanted to win the Tamaki Makaurau seat – currently held by Maori Party leader Pita Sharples – and if he did not he would “reconsider my options”.

Asked to clarify his comments by the Herald yesterday, he said winning the seat would give him a strong platform for “future developments” in his political career.

This is not particularly subtle code for allow him to become Leader. Jones does not want to hang around, if he is not Leader or at least in a top role. If he wins his seat, he will be in a stronger position to become Leader.

I do believe he has shown interest in the deputy leadership before the election. That would make him the front-runner to then become Leader after the election, unless Goff wins the election.

It is also understood that at a caucus meeting a fortnight ago MPs Mr Jones and Lianne Dalziel criticised Mr Goff’s handling of the SIS issue.

The entire caucus should have criticised Goff over that. It was a self-inflicted own goal.

Speculation is also building that other contenders, including David Cunliffe and David Parker, are building support teams to be ready to replace Mr Goff after the election.

One source said Lianne Dalziel, Charles Chauvel and Moana Mackey were linked to Camp Cunliffe.

Camp Cunliffe has a nice ring to it!

There seem to be three contenders – Cunliffe, Parker and Jones. Cunliffe is the only one with an electorate seat, which is an asset.

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46 Responses to “Jones positioning himself”

  1. RRM (9,445 comments) says:

    Cunliffe doesn’t have the unpleasant stigma of having been publicly caught w__king.

    He does however have a very amusing name, and that will always hold him back.

    My pick is not even on this list, good for him…

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  2. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    And the explosion begins…

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  3. backster (2,076 comments) says:

    “Mr Jones said on Te Kaea on Maori Television he wanted to win the Tamaki Makaurau seat – currently held by Maori Party leader Pita Sharples – and if he did not he would “reconsider my options”.

    I would imagine that the same sentiment applies to the other two main aspirants for this seat.

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  4. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    Being a proven wanker should give Jones the inside running to lead the Labour Party I would have thought! :)

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  5. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    Yes lets throw all the wankers out of parliament… who would that leave?

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  6. KevinH (1,131 comments) says:

    Shane “a bob each way’ Jones won’t win Tamaki Makarau, he doesn’t have the same level of support in the community that Pita Sharples has, in addition to that , Shane lacks profile in West and South Auckland where frankly he is not known.
    It takes more than glib rhetoric in the media to win this seat, Shane knows that, so therefore he is thinking aloud.
    Shane needs to win something to have credibility with his party, he has been there for sometime now and has failed to distinguish himself.

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  7. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    Goff’s certainly got no chance of winning the election so he’s gone. The real question is not so much who will take over, interesting though that is, but what if any changes they will make to re-create Labour. Tacking to the Left as Goff has done has not worked.

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  8. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    Good idea Murray. Ten MP’s would cost us poor bastards a lot less than 120. :)

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  9. Rich Prick (1,549 comments) says:

    Shouldn’t that heading read “Jones adjusting himself”?

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  10. Murray (8,838 comments) says:

    TEN?????

    As many as that?

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  11. 3-coil (1,200 comments) says:

    Shane Jones to lead the Labour Party? – yeah right.

    Imagine the logistical nightmare of having to offer antibacterial hand cleanser (or a surgical glove) to everybody prior to/after shaking Shane’s hand. Or maybe Jones could claim he’s a south-paw wanker?

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  12. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    OK maybe only two.

    Jimbo can’t be one cause he’s so old he’s forgotten what its for and Gerry cause he’d have trouble finding it. :)

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  13. Brian Smaller (3,989 comments) says:

    Shane Jones is well known in Labour circles as a man who can take a problem in hand.

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  14. David Garrett (6,400 comments) says:

    Was “Jones positioning himself” an intentionally funny headline DPF?

    [DPF: No]

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  15. Elaycee (4,301 comments) says:

    “Camp Cunliffe has a nice ring to it!”

    Not if you suffer from tourettes! :P

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  16. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Seriously, how could Jones lead Liarbore. Imagine the talk behind his back at the flash piss ups when foreign dignities come calling. He’s damage goods. Think he’s pushing shit up hill if he thinks he can beat Sharples.

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  17. davidp (3,540 comments) says:

    Surely Jones is too lazy to be PM? Lange was our last lazy PM. He compensated for it by either his own witt and vision, or the fact that he didn’t stand in the way of Douglas, Prebble, and Goff’s vision. But untimately it caught up with him and he crashed and burned.

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  18. dime (9,424 comments) says:

    cause no one else here has ever smacked off to porn..

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  19. Brian Smaller (3,989 comments) says:

    @Dime – the rest of us do it on our own dime (so to speak).

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  20. leftyliberal (642 comments) says:

    3-coil: You might be onto something. I haven’t seen any conclusive studies, but anecdotal evidence suggests that right handed lads tend to grasp the bat first in the left hand?

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  21. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Imagine the logistical nightmare of having to offer antibacterial hand cleanser (or a surgical glove) to everybody prior to/after shaking Shane’s hand. Or maybe Jones could claim he’s a south-paw wanker?

    Hate to break it to you buddy, but the vast majority of men you have shaken hands with over you life have no doubt indulged in a little pole shuffling a time or two….

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  22. NX (602 comments) says:

    Anyone see Cunliffe on Q & A recently? The cameramen had to go to a wide angle view but even then couldn’t capture his entire ego.

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  23. Inventory2 (10,099 comments) says:

    Good point NX; I don’t think there would be room the the respective egos of Cunners and Jones on the same bench in the House. Neither is a shrinking violet, so to speak…

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  24. James Stephenson (2,024 comments) says:

    Cunliffe is the only one with an electorate seat, which is an asset.

    Yes, but Parker is standing in Epsom so he’s got a handy sidestep to take over from Goff in Mt Roskill when PG resigns following their election disaster.

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  25. s.russell (1,563 comments) says:

    I am doubtful that “vote for me or I’ll tell you all to go to hell” is much of a vote-winning argument, either for Tamaki Makaurau or the Labour caucus.

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  26. mikenmild (10,686 comments) says:

    Yep, a bit much preening from the self-annointed.

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  27. Inventory2 (10,099 comments) says:

    @ James; when he loses Epsom in November, Parker will become a three-time loser in electorate contests. He lost the Otago electorate to Jacqui Dean in 2005, and got an absolute thrashing in 2008. There’s no guarantee that he would win Roskill. It would also be bad news for Michael “Penis Lolly” Wood, who took one for the team in the Botany by-election this year in the hope that he might be Goff’s eventual successor.

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  28. noskire (832 comments) says:

    I think Jones has shown that he has the skills needed to effectively shuffle the Labour caucus, given that he seems to have mastered the art of the five-knuckle shuffle (or at least has put in plenty of practice). But really, who gives a toss…

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  29. mikenmild (10,686 comments) says:

    That guy Wood has an interesting name. Bet he got teased at school.

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  30. Inventory2 (10,099 comments) says:

    @ mikenmild; he only got his nickname this year during the Botany campaign when he sent out a tweet on an issue in Christchurch that had nothing at all to do with Botany. But as nicknames do, it has stuck :-)

    http://whaleoil.gotcha.co.nz/index.php/2011/02/campaigning-on-the-things-that-matter/

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  31. mikenmild (10,686 comments) says:

    So it’s a sticky lolly?

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  32. lastmanstanding (1,204 comments) says:

    Yes please let the little hori boy from the north get elected Leader.

    It will do much to prolong the Socialists stay on the Opposition benches!!!!!!

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  33. James Stephenson (2,024 comments) says:

    @Inv – agreed, but is there any other eason why Parker would stand in Epsom?

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  34. Inventory2 (10,099 comments) says:

    Actually James; there are two, but that’s another story; WO might tell you one day…

    BTW; I just went back and read the comments from WO’s penis lolly thread. It’s well worth a visit if you want a belly laugh, but please; put your cup of tea of coffee down before reading; replacement keyboards are such a bummer…

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  35. Elaycee (4,301 comments) says:

    Based on Jones’ track record, it is safe to describe him as a victim of the grip…..

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  36. Roflcopter (424 comments) says:

    Give Jones some credit.

    If he goes to bed with a hard problem, he wakes up with the solution in hand. :D

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  37. tvb (4,202 comments) says:

    Jones could get back the blue collar vote but the sisterhood won’t have him not until Labour loses in 2014 and then maybe they will.

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  38. Viking2 (11,128 comments) says:

    Two things, he wants to be leader of the Labour Party. Not a traditional Labour person but it gives him the lever to Maorify Labour even more and He wants rid of Sharples.
    So a good fight in that seat.

    I’ve said a few times on Kiwiblog that labour will collapse either this election or next because they no longer have a reason to be. No sense of purpose which all organizations need to thrive.
    I’d hazard a guess that where i could be wrong is that Maori, especially Jones and co see an opportunity to Maorify the Labour Party, take possession of Labour Party assets and with the national maori Party the two tribes will rule NZ.

    Far fetched ??? well I am not so sure.

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  39. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    V2

    Perfectly logical thinking ,if you are using rare hallucinogenic drugs only found on a remote Peruvian mountain top

    And no doubt Winnie the Tall and Sober will remember that he’s a bit dark as well and will want to be king maker.

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  40. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    ” One source said Lianne Dalziel, Charles Chauvel and Moana Mackey were linked to Camp Cunliffe.”

    Chauvel I can understand.. but the other two? :)

    “Camp Cunliffe has a nice ring to it!”

    Chauvel must have said that!!!! :)

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  41. toad (3,669 comments) says:

    For a moment I thought the headline read:

    Jones pistoning himself

    Not a problem by me though, unless the taxpayer is paying.

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  42. Johnboy (14,973 comments) says:

    Why? Have you ever paid taxes toadie?

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  43. kowtow (7,614 comments) says:

    Hand Shandy Jones is a bit too much of a comedian to be a leader of anything other than the bullshit brigade.

    The only thing going for him before getting caught was the perceived need that some people had that NZ Aotearoa was overdue a “maori” PM.And he seemed to fit the bill as he hadn’t pissed in a hotel corridor or charged us for his undies. But then came the porno.Mind you one minute he’s mari,the next Dallie and Jones is Welsh,so what is he.?

    The only thing we can be sure of is he’s dubious with the accounts.So that rules him out. Wanker.

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  44. 3-coil (1,200 comments) says:

    Jones positioning himself…for the gravy stroke.

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  45. bhudson (4,734 comments) says:

    So the supposition seems to be that Shane Jones thinks he can position himself to lead Labour to victory in 2014. Really? Do you think he could pull it off for them?

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  46. Ross Miller (1,661 comments) says:

    Jones is a prisioner to his own vastly inflated ego. Bombed as the Labour candidate for Northland twice and now carpetbagging down south where he thinks he may have a better chance. Disliked in his own caucus as arrogant and lazy. Happy to rort the public purse in pursuit of his own fantacies and as a Minister allowed himself to be rolled by the Greens into trying to limit the amount of time one can spend in the shower let alone choosing ones lighbulbs.

    Is Labour so bereft in talent that Jones should be seen as a genuine contender as Leader? Answer … YES and that is why the next Labour PM is going to be a long time in the making.

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