General Debate 24 October 2011

October 24th, 2011 at 8:00 am by Kokila Patel
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  1. Steve (4,546 comments) says:

    This win is all John Key and Nationals’ fault you know

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  2. Steve (4,546 comments) says:

    Are you French?

    Depressed?

    Feeling down?

    The call the French Rugby Football Union on

    0888 101010

    That’s 0800 One Nothing, One Nothing, One Nothing!

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  3. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Sigh. Its all over. :(

    Back to work everyone. No not you silly magpie.

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  4. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Not everyone shares our delight this morning, as a quick tour of the blogosphere reveals:

    http://keepingstock.blogspot.com/2011/10/not-everyones-happy-though.html

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  5. Brian Smaller (4,012 comments) says:

    Phew! What a game. I didn’t know what to do or think in that last ten minutes or so.

    Don’t knock the French @Steve. They played an awesome game and almost took that match. To all who said the French didn’t deserve to be in the final … how is that humble pie?

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  6. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Agreed Brian; Les Bleu were magnifique. But the All Black defence was heroic, and the victory was thoroughly deserved.

    In the meantime, the bile is already coming out from the Left…suck it up cupcakes!

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  7. wreck1080 (3,881 comments) says:

    I’d hope NZ has offered to send search and rescue experts to assist in the Turkey earthquake .

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  8. Steve (4,546 comments) says:

    Waited 24 years to gloat, harden up. We won, they lost.

    Note to Socialists, don’t tell children the score, it’s just a game

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  9. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Who’s had panadol or nurofen for breakfast this morning? And who hasn’t been to bed yet?

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  10. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    I wonder why the anally distraught consider it becoming to pepper KB with negativity. Are their lives so utterly miserable that they cannot recognise achievement when they see it? Maybe I have just answered my own question. Achievement is not in the lexicon of the left

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  11. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (this is one of my finds of the morning…

    …neil young and arcade fire going ‘helpless’ at a recent school benefit concert..

    (as they do..as they do..)

    ..this one will lift yr heart/spirit..there..nookin..

    ..it is very cool..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/arcade-fire-and-neil-young-sing-helpless-at-bridge-school-benefit-video/

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  12. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    @IV2

    Had a look at the comments at the standard.
    Some people……
    Leave you with two comments:

    Rodel 26
    23 October 2011 at 11:23 pm
    Best apart of the world cup final?
    John Key desperately and ungraciously making attempts to get a photo of himself shaking hands with Ritchie McCaw but being ignored and being treated like the irrelevancy that he is
    Loved it..

    Anne 27
    23 October 2011 at 11:25 pm
    Typical Shylock behaviour. Key kept himself out of sight until after the end of the game. Once they won he was in boots n’all. No recognition (that I know of) for Helen Clark who was the prime-minister responsible for making it happen. She was there too.

    As for the last one, ‘Typical Shylock behaviour’.
    I was wondering when they were going to play that card.

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  13. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    “No recognition (that I know of) for Helen Clark who was the prime-minister responsible for making it happen. She was there too.”

    Someone should have told Anne that she wasn’t highlighted because the electorate told her to shove off 3 years ago. Because her eyes are so blinkered, Anne will not have noticed McCully acknowledging her contribution to securing the cup yesterday.

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  14. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    @ Other_Andy – yep; precisely the reason why I chose to blog about it. There is an element on the Left that is simply filled with hatred towards John Key, just as in the past there was an element on the Right that was likewise towards Helen Clark. The irony of course is that the Left condemns personal attacks….

    And even before the match was played, the flames were being fanned at The Standard.

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  15. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    @ Nookin; I have no problem with Helen Clark being recognised for her part in securing the hosting rights; credit where it’s due, and all that. But SHE chose to stand down as Labour leader after the last election, and SHE chose to resign from Parliament and go to the UNDP job. She was attending last night’s match as a spectator only, and that is entirely appropriate; there was no need for any additional recognition.

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  16. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    Great day for NZ beautiful morning here in the main city woke up so positive and all.
    So then I log on and the first thing I see is the name of the dreaded Harpy. Still no perfection if you don’t have something to compare it to.

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  17. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    I think it’s time for the Occupy movement in New Zealand to be open about what their motives are. They seem to be trying to establish support based on extended vagueness. It’s time they were up front and honest.

    Occupy Auckland – no politics except a New World Order?

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  18. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    Part of the speech Graham Henry gave his players at half-time.

    (From Shakespeare’s little known play, “Graham Henry V”)

    Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
    Or close the wall up with our Kiwi dead.

    In peace there’s nothing so becomes a man
    As modest stillness and humility:
    But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
    Then imitate the action of the tiger;

    Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
    Disguise fair nature with hard-favour’d rage;
    Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
    Let pry through the portage of the head
    Like the brass cannon; let the brow o’erwhelm it
    As fearfully as doth a galled rock
    O’erhang and jutty his confounded base,
    Swill’d with the wild and wasteful ocean.

    Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
    Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
    To his full height.

    On, on, you noblest Kiwis!

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  19. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Peter, do you honestly think those clowns have any idea what their motives are?

    It the usual rent a mob – the friendless, the ugly, the nasty, the insane, they clot together like a scab but have no single concept.

    A new world order ,goodness, half of them would find the mechanics of renting a flat too taxing.

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  20. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    @Pete George

    Looking at the pictures and reading the ‘manifests’ and press releases, their motives are clear….

    From the ‘General Assembly’ Minutes, 22 October 2011
    Had an awesome forum on ‘Why are we here?’
    This forum will meet again the following Saturday with progress on the four working groups.

    To be continued.

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  21. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    Peter, do you honestly think those clowns have any idea what their motives are?

    Most of them probably don’t have any idea how they are being used by the organisation behind it. Occupy just didn’t pop up a week ago, it was being planned well before that. You don’t think there was any motives?

    Other_Andy – apparent procrastination is part of the deliberate fobbing off and delaying tactics.

    Next act 11.11.11

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  22. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    “Had an awesome forum on ‘Why are we here?’”

    Ye Gods.

    Will they know before they finally fuck off or get booted out?

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  23. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    11.11.11 – http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=179186642163285

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  24. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    You don’t think there was any motives?…………………..

    Just the usual Mr. Bond.

    But Pete, even the organisers couldn’t find their arse with both hands.

    They’re human litter, do what Melbourne did, send in the cavalry , move along ugly people, we have a city full of tourists that spend money

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  25. Steve (4,546 comments) says:

    Think I will round up the grandkids, catch the Devonport ferry and get to the parade

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  26. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    The Occupy movement in NZ has nothing to do with “corporate greed” whatsoever. It has everything to do with giving the hard left (Mana/Greens) a voice in the run-up to the election, and the Auckland occupiers are digging in until the election. Right now it would suit their agenda to be forcibly evicted; it would give the likes of Minto, Bradford, Sykes and Turei a platform to rant about how the system is victimising them.

    This is a very clever political strategy, and it’s been planned and prepared at Unite Union HQ. Len Brown has played into their hands via his inaction; then again, he can’t bite the hand that campaigned for him.

    It’s time for some firm action to get rid of the protest at Aotea Square; and let’s just hope that they don’t try any stunts this afternoon when the city is full for the AB parade!

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  27. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    Should the cost of the occupations be included in election expenses for Mana and Greens?

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  28. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    The Labour Party’s water policy for the general election calls for farmers to pay for the water they use.http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/89042/labour-policy-puts-water-charge-on-farmers

    This smells If charges are implemented the money will be given to Maori.
    The greens, labour and the Maori are colluding on this.

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  29. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Another revealing comment from The Standard:

    Tombstone
    24 October 2011 at 9:32 am

    First thing I said to my wife after the game ‘Key will be out tomorrow creaming this for all it’s worth and trying to take as much credit for both the tournament and the win as he can’ – talk about predictable. And I agree with others, how gutless is it that he can talk up something like an All Black win but he can’t front up to the tough questions regarding the appalling state of our country, 2 credit downgrades, terrible unemployment figures, poverty at a high, gap growing bigger not smaller with Aussie, rich getting richer while poor getting poorer and on and on it goes …. no, that would mean risking exposing himself for the failure that he is. Can’t have that now can we? Gutless swine.

    The commenter’s name is very apt! Keep an eye on this thread; the venting from the Lefties is a thing of beauty!

    http://thestandard.org.nz/we-won/

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  30. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Steve (1,897) Says:
    October 24th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Think I will round up the grandkids,..”

    you have grandchildren..?

    you have the gutter-mouth/writing-patterns of a 15 yr old with advanced add…

    ..do you talk around yr grandkids like that..?

    ..d’ya show them yr comments here…?

    ..ew..!

    ..you don’t even have the excuse of being young and stupid…eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  31. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    Inventory2 says:- “The Occupy movement in NZ has nothing to do with “corporate greed” whatsoever.”

    Well, as far as I’m concerned, these “Occupy Wherever” movements have the same right to express their opinion as did the recent, and now thankfully resolved, (but government sanctioned) “Occupy Party Central” movement, which seemed to me to be far more disruptive and pointless.

    Like it or not, there is an uneven distribution of wealth in this world, and if I were a 20 year old again, I suspect I would be there with those smelly hippies and anarchists, partly for the party, but mainly to show my naive dissatisfaction with the status quo.

    And once again I’ll repeat, that any protest movement is a function of those protesting, and those paying them the attention. Ignore them, and they will go home.

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  32. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    Can any one understand the strange code in plilu comments? Seems to be some sort of Morse code involved.

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  33. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Biting taunts from the demented magpie who uses his kids as a meal ticket to freeload off society.

    A lifetime loser who deludes himself that he’s one of the 99%, except he isn’t. He is in fact Just a lazy little shit.

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  34. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    @IV2

    Don’t forget the so called ‘academics’ and AUSA ‘students’ from Auckland University who are actively involved.

    Campbell Jones – Occupy Auckland media spokesperson
    Department of Sociology Auckland University
    http://artsfaculty.auckland.ac.nz/staff/?UPI=cjon018

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  35. Steve (4,546 comments) says:

    I wouldn’t expose my grandkids to a shitbag like you Phool.
    Phuck off and find some more full stops

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  36. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..The Occupy movement in NZ has nothing to do with “corporate greed” whatsoever. It has everything to do with giving the hard left (Mana/Greens) a voice in the run-up to the election,..”

    wow..!..inv..!

    ..so mana and the greens organised all those people worldwide as a ‘front’..?

    ..pretty fucken clever of them..eh..?..

    ..major points for organising/global-reach/influence..there..mana/greens..eh..?

    ..actually inv..it is more a matter of a manifestation of the gods of serendipidy…eh..?

    ..look..it is obvious you lot can see as well as blind-freddy – what is coming over the hill..at ya..eh..?

    ..(understandable given the woeful coverage in our mainstream/corporate- media…oval-ball distractions..)

    ..i have been paying closer attention..

    ..and have amassed a cache of well over 100 stories/links …(kinda charting/recording the revolutiion as it were..eh..?..)

    ..there yr questions will be answered…yr confusions cleared…the way ahead clarified for you..

    http://whoar.co.nz/?s=occupy

    (esp. recommended for thse locked into the ‘dirty-hippie-meme/dismissal’..eh..?

    ..i’m looking at you reid…)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  37. Tauhei Notts (1,692 comments) says:

    If you attending a Kiwi Fun Day today try and answer this quiz question.
    Which New Zealand company, which did not pay one cent in income taxes during the year ended 31st July 2011, had more than 240 N.Z. employees on more than $200,000 per year pay?
    If you don’t believe me then read pages 63, 109 and 110 of their Annual Report.

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  38. Fletch (6,294 comments) says:

    re: Libya. The transitional leader says that Islamic Sharia law will be the basis for future legislation. No surprises there then.
    This so-called “Arab Spring” is turning out to be an Islamic Spring.

    BENGHAZI, Libya (AP) — Libya’s transitional leader declared his country’s liberation on Sunday, three days after the hated dictator Moammar Gadhafi was captured and killed.
    He called on Libyans to show “patience, honesty and tolerance” and eschew hatred as they embark on rebuilding the country at the end of an 8-month civil war.

    The transitional government leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil set out a vision for the post-Gadhafi future with an Islamist tint, saying that Islamic Sharia law would be the “basic source” of legislation in the country and that existing laws that contradict the teachings of Islam would be nullified. In a gesture that showed his own piety, he urged Libyans not to express their joy by firing in the air, but rather to chant “Allahu Akbar,” or God is Great. He then stepped aside and knelt to offer a brief prayer of thanks.

    “This revolution was looked after by God to achieve victory,” he told the crowd at the declaration ceremony in the eastern city of Benghazi, the birthplace of the uprising against Gadhafi began. He thanked those who fell in the fight against Gadhafi’s forces. “This revolution began peacefully to demand the minimum of legitimate rights, but it was met by excessive violence.”

    Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. For the time being, he said interest would be canceled from any personal loans already taken out less than 10,000 Libyan dinars (about $7,500)….

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  39. wat dabney (3,724 comments) says:

    Greens call for state monitoring of the media

    And by “monitor” they mean “control”, via ‘a “Broadcasting Commission” that would set, monitor and enforce rules such as minimum local content quotas.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10761276

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  40. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Time away from Kiwiblog obviously hasn’t improved your comprehension Phil; I said (and you even quoted it):

    The Occupy movement in NZ has nothing to do with “corporate greed” whatsoever. It has everything to do with giving the hard left (Mana/Greens) a voice in the run-up to the election

    What part of “in NZ” do you not understand Phil? Perhaps I should have said:

    The occupy movement..
    ..in NZ..
    eh..?

    But I have more respect for the English language than that ;-)

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  41. backster (2,150 comments) says:

    TAUHEI:………..Probably Ngai Tahu Investments or Sealord, Tangata Whenua don’t pay much tax.

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  42. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    so inv..that would be why the green party blog..frogblog..is pushing this occupy thing so hard..eh..?

    ..(stories to date on occupy on frogblog..?..zero..)

    ..many in occupy wd probably view the greens as our obama…

    ..in the sense of unfufilled expectations…

    ..both obama and the greens have shown that they can’t do the job..

    ..and that direct-democracy is the way to go…

    ..perhaps mana will be able to cash in some chips on this..

    ..as they are the party offering direct/immediate political/legislative solutions to many of the (inequality/1%-gouging concerns being voiced by occupy..

    ..the greens won’t lose votes..but also won’t necessarily gain…

    ..(esp. if they just continue to ignore..)

    ..and of course occupy has much to thank the tea-party for..eh..?

    ..and tho’ tea-party is top-down organised..(funded by koch-bros..)..and occupy is bottom-up..

    ..the tea party have shown to progressives everywhere the political-potency of grass-roots/direct-democracy…

    ..in the sense of looking over and saying:..’if those clowns can do that..imagine what we could do..if we put our shoulders to the wheel’…

    ..and this has duly come to pass…eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  43. Pete George (23,474 comments) says:

    The Standard launches into diversion and abuse – a tad sensitive to the issue raised?

    http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-24102011/#comment-388913

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  44. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (heh..!..)..they nailed you p.g…(referring to yr ‘extended vagueness’..asking ‘wtf do you stand for..?’..)

    ..the same questions so many here have asked for so long..eh..?

    ..one even worked up a definition of you…

    petegeorge, n. & v.t. 1. Being obtuse in the extreme, inane; divert, deflect, evade question and introduce irrelevance; refuse to commit to stance; draw off attention of (from one embarrassment to another); distract, confuse, obfuscate; (he ~ s every attempt at discussion) 2. Male sexual organ of gibbon. Hence ~MENT, ~IFICATION [21st c orig unknown]

    (heh..!..eh..?..)

    ..don’t they know you are a dunny-brush/united-trout…?

    ..why don’t you come clean with them..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  45. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    (esp. recommended for thse locked into the ‘dirty-hippie-meme/dismissal’..eh..?

    ..i’m looking at you reid…)

    But phil the pwotesters are smelly, dirty hippy-types. Of course they now have i-pods and tie-dying isn’t quite as popular but one expects to see a comeback on that, any day now.

    The point really is phil, they are smelly as per the nose on the ground report we all had the other day. A secondary point is they are ignorant, useful idiots being used by others and they and apparently you, don’t even realise it.

    Pwofound moroninity at evewy turn.

    People like Hone, Bradford and McCarten don’t really believe what they are saying, for if they did, they would be pwoposing a viable alternative which would work here in the real world. But they don’t, do they. No. All they ever do, is point to the invisible forces which are opwessing the people in order to whip up said smelly useful idiots into a fwenzy of hatwed against “the system,” whatever that may represent, in their tiny little minds.

    It’s classic mob psychology phil. Like I said the other day, one of the tells is the propaganda symbolism in the form of those Guido masks. Stuff like that comes straight out of Tavistock. And you don’t seem to understand that. They certainly don’t. Hardly any of them would have even heard of Tavistock, let alone understand what the implications are.

    You know phil, it’s people like them and you, who have no idea the Russian Revolution actually started when a whole lot of middle-class Bourgeois people decided they wanted the riches of Russia. It wasn’t a peasant revolt at all, it never was. It was a cabal of ruthless middle-class organisers who used the peasants to execute one of the biggest most violent crimes of last century. And people like them and you, were the enablers.

    Tell me phil, are you smelly as well, in sympathy, or have you not yet lowered yourself to their level? At which point do you think, you will become so vewy enwaged against “the system” that you’ll feel compelled to join them in sympathy, to show solidarity, as they wallow in their own crapulence?

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  46. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    reid says:- “It’s classic mob psychology phil.”

    Aha, so unlike this patriotism trip we’ve been on for the last six weeks. The socialists are just playin’ the same game IMO.

    We need socialsts reid, to act as a counterweight to the despotic monarchists. Best place to sit and watch is at the fulcrum where you can see either side for what they really are.

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  47. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    We need socialsts reid, to act as a counterweight to the despotic monarchists.

    So you’re saying Scott, we really needed the 5th Liarbore govt and all that it represented? And we need something like that to happen again?

    I’m afraid I don’t really agree, speaking from a ‘what might have been’ vs a ‘what has actually happened and what we are now having to deal with as a consequence’ perspective.

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  48. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5814782/Man-seeks-1-25m-for-op-on-45kg-scrotum

    He got big balls.

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  49. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (reid..i wd recommend you take that one to show yr therapist…eh..?..it could save him/her months of gentle-probing..eh..?..)

    ..”..if they did, they would be pwoposing a viable alternative which would work here in the real world. But they don’t, do they…”

    ..um..!..yes they do…haven’t you read the mana-policies yet..?…(of course the mana party ‘hone-heke-tax’ is inevitable…the eu and lots other (surprising) people/organisations/economists are also call infg for that tobin-tax..

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/comment-whoar-bloody-hell-how-about-that-mana-party-policy-eh/

    ..and of course the mana policies overturn those nact-acts that enhanced the privileges of the 1%

    ..and propose direct/immediate moves to end/overturn our ever-increasing horrors of underclass/child-poverty etc…

    and re yr tavistock-reference…the origins/practises of much of occupy are being sheeted back to the situationists..

    ..(with lessons to be learnt there..)

    http://whoar.co.nz/2011/the-original-mad-men-what-can-ows-learn-from-a-defunct-french-avant-garde-group/

    ..and yes..of course revolutions really get rolling when the middle class wakes up and realises they are being screwed….

    ..it has always been thus…and this one is no different…

    ..(i think you’ll find in the final wash that greed will be cited for bringing the 1% down/back into line…)

    “..And people like them and you, were the enablers. ..”

    i am getting on in years..but i don’t think i was there for that one..eh..?

    “..At which point do you think, you will become so vewy enwaged against “the system” that you’ll feel compelled to join them in sympathy, to show solidarity,..”

    i’ve been doing that since day one..as evidenced by that cache of over 100 stories/links on occupy i have amassed…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  50. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    How do I get the RIP thing, there are couple here that are and never have been required reading.

    Thanks

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  51. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i think firefox has it here..pauleastbay..

    ..are you tiring of reid too..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  52. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    This is one of the most important cases in US Supreme Court history, far outweighing Row vs Wade.

    http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=105570

    This all started when the US SC allowed an oil company to patent an oil-eating bacteria it had engineered in the lab (used to clean up oil spills). Prior to that, the law had been you cannot patent a living organism. The Justices unfortunately having little understanding of biology, allowed this, thinking they weren’t breaking this principal, since a lab-engineered organism wasn’t a living thing. Corporate lawyers being who they are, gradually levered open the toehold on behalf of their big-pharma masters, to allow today, the patenting of segments of the human genome.

    If the US SC affirms the patent rights in this case, it will allow exclusive rights over every single genetic disease. When you and your child in future years wants medical insurance, you will be required to have a gene scan. When that shows you and your children have say, a 30% chance of pancreatic cancer, a 60% chance of prostate cancer and an 80% chance of breast cancer sometime in your lifetimes, you will either be refused cover altogether for those diseases, or offered the opportunity of gene therapy, which will cost you your entire savings and then some.

    What price health? Apparently, humans value it highly, is why we are apparently prepared to pay just about anything, to get it. This is what big pharma are aiming for, and all cos the US SC Justice’s made a big mistake, some 30-40 years ago.

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  53. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    haven’t you read the mana-policies yet..

    Fairy tales phil. Complete and utter fairy tales. For example, no GST on fruit and veges, is mental, since it will invoke huge compliance costs amongst all businesses involved in supply of such which will inevitably result in price increases on said fruit and veges just to cover the cost of re-configuring their systems to cope with it. Just because Aus and the UK have GST/VAT systems that do this, does NOT mean those systems are efficient. This is what people like Hone can’t quite get their heads around, possibly because they inhabit the fantasy realm where any old thing seems like a good idea, and fail to calculate what it actually means in the real world.

    Minimum youth rates are another thing. Haven’t you guys who think its a good thing, noticed the very high youth unemployment and hasn’t it occurred to any of you, to look at the correlation between those numbers, and the rise and rise of the minimum wage? Of course it hasn’t, since that’s a “real world” factor and people like you and Hone, prefer to live in a fantasyland where evewyone gets along and hugs each other, all the time.

    I could go on, phil.

    BTW since you’ve now joined the smelly naive brigade down at the local Occupy HQ, does this mean we’ll be seeing an outbreak of furious tie-dying? Let’s hope so phil, for otherwise, what other value could you or your political philosophies add to the hewoic “occupiers?”

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  54. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    Eastbay, go fuck yourself.

    People like you and Elaycee are what is wrong with this country.

    You’re a rotten apple.

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  55. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    there you go again reid..banging on again abut crap you know absolutely nothing about..

    .mana dosen’t want to remove the g.s.t. on fruit and vegetables…

    as gst is one of those regressive taxes that most hurt the poor..

    ..mana wants to remove g.s.t..on everything…but you’d have known that..eh..?

    ..if you had read before committing to print..eh..?

    ..(ahem..!..political criticism 101..first read what you plan to criticise..to not do so can lead to embarassments like the above..eh..?..)

    btw..heads up..!..the ‘smelly hippy’ references reflect more on you than me/any occupiers..eh..?

    ..it kinda further highlights yr deficits in analysis/comprehension..(as defined by yr 11.52 am gst-fact-error..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  56. kowtow (8,315 comments) says:

    Re Libya and sharia.
    Amazing that a secular state ,the USA under BH Obama ,goes to great lengths to be sharia compliant dealing with its enemies(Osama bin Laden) while a Muslim state, Libya can ignore sharia while it ghoulishly displays the bodies of Lieutenant Gadafi and his son!

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  57. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    Scott Chris

    Why r.i.p anyone out if you lose those you do not agree with you lose the whole value of kb. Reading only half an argument is stupid, moronic and futile.

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  58. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    ..mana wants to remove g.s.t..on everything…but you’d have known that..eh..?

    Yes I must admit phil I have avoided reading the detail of mana’s policies, lest my mind become infected with whatever it is their and your minds are infected with, so I’ve relied simply on the MSM-reid interface as a kind of virus firewall, which I know is dangerously superficial but nevertheless, the MSM bargepole is a critical prevention mechanism lest I too succumb and eventually, wind up as a smelly, useless “Occupier” and mana voter.

    http://www.treasury.govt.nz/government/revenue/taxoutturn

    According to the xls here, GST brings in $12 billion+, p.a.

    Pray tell phil, how precisely does mana propose to replace that revenue stream, or are they thinking of eliminating say, the DPB and the Sickness Benefit completely?

    Reading only half an argument is stupid, moronic and futile.

    Griff, reading any part at all of any of phil’s “arguments” is stupid, moronic and futile. I think that’s where an increasing number of Kiwibloggers are coming from, re: RIP.

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  59. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Scott

    “Eastbay, go fuck yourself.
    People like you and Elaycee are what is wrong with this country.
    You’re a rotten apple.”

    Ad hom Scott? Jus’ checkin’ ;)

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  60. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Poor old magpie. The cockroach of the interweb.

    He’s ditched the melons because they don’t like him either.

    What is it now my scaley feathered friend .. Mana?? – Hone or the bush?? :lol:

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  61. Griff (7,515 comments) says:

    reid

    ………..()……..//….

    I think you may be right there
    At some stage some one compared me to …….. know I no how terrible that comparison was.

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  62. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay “How do I get the RIP thing, there are couple here that are and never have been required reading.”

    Got to use Firefox as your browser, RIP is an Add-On program. Once you have the feature you have to preform an Add XPath, put in //li[cite[contains(.,'philu')]] as the XPath and http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz* as the page to use on. Then repeat for other useless trolls such as //li[cite[contains(.,'publicwatchdog')]] as another XPath. Got to do one for each.

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  63. noskire (839 comments) says:

    The Priest and The Traffic Warden

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  64. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    thedavincimode says:- “Ad hom Scott? Jus’ checkin’”

    Oh absolutely. When all reason fails, there is nowt like a good old ad hom to put the knife in.

    Also playin’ by his rules.

    BTW, hope you enjoyed that homage to conservative socialism last night ;)

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  65. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Dear phil: Thank you once again for gracing the cyberpages of KB with your insightful grasp of the wrongs of society and your new take on the usage of punctuation in creating almost coherency in the mindless chatter that is the internet.

    I was thinking of writing a mind expanding tome that would rival the complexity of Doctor Johnson’s original dictionary.

    Any contribution you would wish to make regarding the placing of dots, exclamation and question marks, comma’s, colon’s and whatever would be gratefully received.

    Could you please email me at Johnboy@roundgreything.getsemptieddaily.tip.nz. :)

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  66. Hagues (703 comments) says:

    Griff “Why r.i.p anyone out if you lose those you do not agree with you lose the whole value of kb. Reading only half an argument is stupid, moronic and futile.”

    Its not about getting rid of those who you do not agree with and therefore losing half an arguement, its about getting rid of those who add nothing to the arguement and are a complete waste of time. Plenty of lefties here don’t get ripped because they contribute something to the discussion.

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  67. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    Oh absolutely. When all reason fails, there is nowt like a good old ad hom to put the knife in.

    What does one do when one deals with someone like phil, to whom apparently, “reason” is a word spoken only by one very small hill tribe in the back blocks of Papua New Guinea and the rest of the world doesn’t use it and doesn’t know what it means.

    To what does one resort then Scott, if not ad homina, if only to make it just go away and not be so very tiresome, anymore?

    Oh the humanity.

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  68. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Yes Scott, that was very good.

    Now, lets see:

    Ad hom: CHECK
    Hypocrite: CHECK
    Petulant: CHECK
    Spiteful: CHECK
    Narcissistic: CHECK

    ;)

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  69. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    reid..you keep on asking these questions that wd be answered if you read…

    ..reid read..!..

    ..the policies are all costed…indicating where from where…

    ..(as just one example…do you know how much a 1% financial transaction tax would raise..?…

    ..whoar…!…bye-bye child-poverty/underclass..eh..?.

    ..exciting times ahead…eh..?..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  70. holysheet (362 comments) says:

    Griff (949) Says:
    October 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5814782/Man-seeks-1-25m-for-op-on-45kg-scrotum

    He got big balls.

    Tell goofy to bid for them on ebay. Anything has to be better than the one’s hes got

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  71. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    going on yr 12.33 there reid..

    ..are you just about danced out…?

    ..ad-homs all ya got left…?

    ..best go have a wee lie-down and a cup of tea..eh..?

    ..before yr head starts to hurt…

    ..eh..?

    ..off ya go..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  72. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    BTW, for those who doubt the Occupiers aren’t inspired by the Russian Revolution, how come they use the very same tactics and propaganda?

    http://atrueott.wordpress.com/

    Open your eyes phil, then tell all your smelly brethren to pack their tents and shuffle off, lest they be eventually responsible for the same tragedy which Communism wrought upon the Russian and Soviet peoples, from 1917-1990.

    Ironic isn’t it, that lefties proclaim to really care about justice and human-kind. They apparently and evidently don’t care about anything of the sort.

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  73. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Anyone seen old FESter about recently?

    Surely he hasn’t shot off to have tea and biccies with Obummer already.

    Wonder if he remembered to get the builders in, while he is away, to widen the doorways so his head will fit through. :)

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  74. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i can hardly hear you reid..

    ..turn up the volume on yr whimpering-moan…eh..?

    ..his arguments silenced..his ‘i am so clever’-ness ever so dented…

    ..reid returned to his tin-tin books..

    ..and touching his quiff reverently with his hand….returned to his dream of getting that call from peter jackson..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  75. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    “bye-bye child-poverty/underclass”

    Glad to see that you’re concerned Big Magpie and gatherer of the shiney bits, and in particular, the shiney bit on the seat of your trousers where it comes in constant contact with the couch.

    When will you be making your contribution towards child poverty? Freeing up some taxpayer cash so that it can be spent on people that actually need it. Do you lecture your young meal ticket on your fight against child poverty when he comes home to find you sitting on your arse with your hand out?

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  76. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    thanks Hagues

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  77. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Johnboy, I’m worried. Have you changed your drench? :)

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  78. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    I hate to be negative on such an awesome morning-after, but… The Herald.
    There’s a 2 year old who sadly has an inoperable brain cancer.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10761210

    Now, what’s really unfair about this is that they are promoting support for receiving alternative treatment in Tijuana. My memories of Tijuana are barstaff pouring tequila into your throat while blowing whistles in your face. I’d imagine their cancer cures are similarly sophisticated, and exist to prey on sick Americans who will desperately cross the border to try anything.

    I’m not sure why The Herald is promoting such scams. I hope it’s because they feel sorry for the child, and feel they cannot help in any other way. But it seems wrong.

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  79. big bruv (13,718 comments) says:

    Got a job yet Phool?

    Or are you still a drug taking parasitic piece of shit?

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  80. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Hist, hist, oh male child of family big!

    Fear ye not the little stunted one, of cyber power all encompassing, who may rise from his slumbers to zap you for picking on his latest conquest?

    Beware the penguin thwarted.

    Happy feet may yet rise from the depths with a shark in his beak and some points for you! :)

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  81. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Eastbay, go fuck yourself…

    Thanks Scott.

    I am sure you will continue to find purpose for your existence by posting another 1000 or so comments in the next month . I just hope you are right a bit more when trying to argue with people who know what they are talking about.

    You sound like you actually believe anyone gives a fuck about whats written here, a tad sad mate. A job or relationship might help rein in the old ego that appears to be running rampant.

    Phil FFS, whats wrong with paragraphs?

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  82. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    Reading about (Child) Poverty

    From the Children’s Commissioner
    http://www.occ.org.nz/home/childpoverty/about_child_poverty

    In 2006/07 230,000, or 22 percent, of New Zealand children were still living in poverty. That is, in households with incomes below the 60 percent median income poverty line, after taking housing costs into account. This is more than the entire population of North Shore City (205,605) or the Manawatu-Wanganui region (222,423) and means one adult and one child were living on $430 a week before housing costs.
    Of these children, 170,000, or 16 percent, live in households with incomes below the 50 percent median income poverty line, after taking housing costs into account. This means one adult and one child were living on $355 a week, before housing costs.

    From the Children’s Social Health Monitor
    http://www.nzchildren.co.nz/child_poverty.php

    Proportion of children with equivalised disposable household income < 50% or <60% current median

    Using this 'definition', child poverty and poverty as such will NEVER be solved unless we are all either equally rich or equally poor.
    Then again, according to these definitions, we will have solved poverty if we are all poor.

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  83. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    didn’t you know there..big bruv..?

    ..i run edit a news-aggregation website..called http://whoar.co.nz/

    what i do is each morning i get up really early..usually 5-5.30 am…(6.00 am is a big sleep-in..eh..?..)

    .and i do a scan of what i consider to be the quality global/local news publications…

    ..and i cherry-pick the best of their offerings…

    ..and compile/put them all in the one place..for whoar-readers..

    ..i usually find about 25-35 stories each/every day..

    ..and i really seek out quality-journalism/analysis…

    ..looking for ‘good-writing’..

    ..(and how about that ‘pundit’ website ‘global-round-up’..?..eh..?

    …when i see that i snigger..and go”..’that ain’t a global news round-up..this is a global news round-up..)

    ,..but it ain’t all serious…

    ..i also cherry-pick the best of the reviews/comics etc…

    ..that all keeps me quite busy most mornings..eh..?

    ..and..thanks for asking..eh..?

    ..and how about you ..?..are you still driving cabs..?..in hamilton..?..there..bb..?

    ..that must be an exciting/interesting.. um..!..career..eh..?

    ..would give you lots of opportunities to pontificate to strangers..eh..?

    …kinda like a kiwiblog comments-thread on wheels…eh..?

    ..is that all ya do..?

    ..yr cab-driving and yr comments here..?

    ..no hobbies..?

    ..phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  84. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Phil FFS, whats wrong with paragraphs?..”

    they scare me…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  85. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    ‘You sound like you actually believe anyone gives a fuck about whats written here, a tad sad mate. A job or relationship might help rein in the old ego that appears to be running rampant.’

    Lord FESter believes in this PEB and until recently you supported him.

    What has changed? :)

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  86. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    Hey Bruve; been worried about you bro! What did you think of the footie last night? Those choking All Blacks eh……

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  87. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    they scare me…………………………………………….

    Fair enough, that and the immaculate conception mystery have been cleared up for me now, ta

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  88. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    thedavincimode

    Ad hom: CHECK
    Hypocrite: Nope
    Petulant: Nope
    Spiteful: Nope
    Narcissistic: Uhh?

    Guys an asshole, so I’m treating him as such. You might like bitter old misanthropic bigoted cops, but I don’t.

    Same goes for his girlfriend Elaycee.

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  89. Fletch (6,294 comments) says:

    blOWS chunks…

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  90. big bruv (13,718 comments) says:

    IV2

    I take it you did not watch the game.

    If you had you would have noticed that the NZ team chocked big time, only a biased ref saved this nation from another four yearsmourningning.

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  91. dhsmith (6 comments) says:

    yawnnnn……who really cares…except for a bunch of navel gazing kiwis.

    The rugby world cup is a piddling event and our national obsession with this game is rather embarrassing.

    Not much more than 33 million watched the game today —-less than the audience for your average English Premiership League game.

    RWC —utter waste of money to keep the plebs distracted from the issues that matter.

    Here is an honest debunking of some of the hype that has surrounded the RWC

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/michael-burgess/news/article.cfm?a_id=701&objectid=10761073

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  92. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Its not about eastbay, or elaycee, or even me Scott.

    Its about you.

    Selfawareness: Nope.

    … and I forgot –

    Time machine: Nope :)

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  93. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    @ Big Bruv; yeah; and they almost choked beating Australia in the semi-final (by 14 points), just as you predicted.

    Why don’t you just admit that you got it wrong, and join the rest of us in enjoying the day?

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  94. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    davincimode says:- “Its about you.”

    What?! And all the other posts here aren’t a reflection of their authors? Not sure what you’re getting at here.

    I live by a couple of simple rules when it comes to dealing with other egos.

    Primarily I try to abide by the Golden Rule: “Do unto others as you would have them do to you.”

    Some people, however I’ll apply this rule: “Do unto others as they do unto others”

    For instance, whilst driving, if I see someone tailgating someone unreasonably, I loom up two meters behind them.

    There is no more powerful message.

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  95. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    davincimode says:- “Time machine: Nope”

    Crikey, I’m starting to wonder if you actually *are* Doug Graham. You certainly seem hung up on that point.

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  96. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Till the guy in front steps on his ABS anchors and the arse behind in his 1985 shitmobile with the baldies rams him up the arse and Scotty fills his pants with a very powerful message indeed! :)

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  97. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    “whilst driving, if I see someone tailgating someone unreasonably, I loom up two meters behind them. ”

    Childish: CHECK
    Petulant: CHECK
    Spiteful: CHECK
    Selfawareness: NOPE
    Defensive driving: I DON’T THINK SO!!

    Just trying to keep you honest Scott! ;)

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  98. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Normal people like me (who only prefer sheep now and again), tend to drop back further when they see the tosser in front up the arse of the fellow in front of him Scotty.

    Its called avoiding the panelbeaters.

    Perhaps you need to take a defensive driving course?

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  99. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    I generally find that just a touch of the brakes sufficient to operate the lights is enough to back Scott off when I’m out driving. I don’t want him in my back seat.

    Perhaps you’ve got a really long towbar?? :)

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  100. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Since I got the transplant I just have the new 50mm diameter knob Leonardo.

    The sheep seem happy.

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  101. MT_Tinman (3,130 comments) says:

    Scott Chris (2,367) Says:
    October 24th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    For instance, whilst driving, if I see someone tailgating someone unreasonably, I loom up two meters behind them.

    There is no more powerful message.

    So your a fucking idiot on the road as well.

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  102. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    50 mm is impressive Johnboy.

    Who would have thought that the old Scottster suffered from road rage?

    And certainly not after dissin’ the expressions of sympathy and sorrow over Dan Wheldon’s death when he somewhat piously referred to the lack of sympathy for drunken dickheads who wrapped themselves around power poles. As I recall, he appeared to draw a disinction between Wheldon voluntarily engaging in a dangerous sport that Scotty has no time for, and a drunken dickhead being forced at gunpoint to get into his drunken dickhead mate’s car. A valid distinction IMO.

    I didn’t realise at the time that Scotty is in fact a petrolhead who prefers another form of motorsport. ;)

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  103. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Tinman

    Yes, I believe that was the argument that he was seeking to advance.

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  104. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    I used to tell the wife that Leonardo.

    I thought she believed me till the bitch ran off with that big Jamaican mon.

    Sheep are easier fooled. :)

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  105. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu 1.12
    and you are able to spend your time doing that because you are a bludger.
    You sit on your arse smoking dope and the workers of New Zealand, who you abuse, pay you a bene.
    What will you do when your poor sprog ( your meal ticket ) hits 16 and your bene
    is turned off. Of course , swap to the unemployable bene, till you hit 65 then move onto another bene
    you have absolutely no moral right to. Seems like by your own admission you have never contributed
    to the society you suck off.
    A parasite on society, no self esteem, no Mana, and a smart arse.
    What a disgrace you are.
    Even your sprog (meal ticket) will wake up to you soon mate.
    What a pathetic smart arse loser you are.

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  106. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Johnboy

    Upon reflection, you must have some very large sheep. As I recall, 50mm is rated for over two tonnes. Are you expecting a visit from the water hobbit? :(

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  107. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Afternoon Beryl.

    Still your normal, kindly, understanding self, that empathises with the frailty of the less fortunate in society I see. :)

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  108. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    What an intuitive fellow you are Leonardo. How did you know I was deepening my dam by another 2 metres?

    I suppose the barbed wire delivery gave me away.

    She won’t be able to come down to Wainui till she has lost the next election but I am somehow managing to contain myself till then with the help of my flock.

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  109. MT_Tinman (3,130 comments) says:

    big bruv (9,458) Says:
    October 24th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    IV2

    I take it you did not watch the game.

    If you had you would have noticed that the NZ team chocked big time, only a biased ref saved this nation from another four yearsmourningning.

    Almost right Big Bruv.

    The Wellington contingent choked, the Good Guys, Jafa and chiefs contingent didn’t and won the day despite them.

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  110. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Also philu,
    as a human being you must justify your bludging parasitic existence to yourself
    somehow. Even you must believe you have some reason to exist.
    In your mind, what is it ?
    Cue, smart alec response, if any response at all.

    Over to you…………………eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  111. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Afternoon Johnboy,
    How is a self confessed bludger like your mate philu “less fortunate.” ?
    i help support the bludger. Aren’t i allowed to ask, or has he a right to my money ?

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  112. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    What’s up Johnboy. I reckon sheep farmers are some of the most aggressive drivers around. Sooner Ram you up the arse as look at ya :P

    davincimode says:- “lack of sympathy for drunken dickheads who wrapped themselves around power poles”

    Actually, I did say passenger, not driver. Have you never driven or been driven by a drunk driver. I certainly have.

    BTW, 7 dead on the road this w/e.

    Pfft. Fucking nobodies.

    Prolly hippy protesters and socialists the lot of ‘em.

    Certainly no one good looking or famous, or we’d be holding candle light vigils as we speak.

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  113. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    Are the OWS’rs finally getting the picture?
    (Don’t hold your breath)

    Protesters Occupy GE CEO Jeff Immelt’s Connecticut Front Lawn
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/10/22/protesters-occupy-ge-ceo-jeff-immelts-connecticut-front-lawn/

    General Electric Co. and Google Inc. are among the major investors in Caithness Energy’s 32,000-acre wind power project in central Oregon that received a $13 billion guarantee. GE Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Immelt is an adviser to Obama on jobs and competitiveness and Google Chairman Eric Schmidt is an adviser on science and technology.
    Except for maybe Google, no company has been closer and more in synch with the Obama administration than General Electric.
    Here is the policy overlap: Obama wants cap-and-trade, GE wants cap-and-trade. Obama subsidizes embryonic stem-cell research, GE launches an embryonic stem-cell business. Obama calls for rail subsidies, GE hires Linda Daschle as a rail lobbyist. Obama gives a speech, GE employee Chris Matthews feels a thrill up his leg.

    Give them two more weeks and they might figure out that most of the corruption and ‘crony capitalism’ starts and ends with the Democratic Party, its corporate backers (Bankers, Industry and Unions), the dim-witted celebrities, the media cheerleaders and apologists with on top the sock puppet that is Obama.

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  114. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    MT headed Tinman says:- “So your a fucking idiot on the road as well.”

    Yup, but only towards other assholes. Aside from that, I’m courteous and law abiding……

    Apart from when I’m high on P and whiskey. Then I like to drop hand brakes and play chicken with the oncoming traffic.

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  115. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Even you must believe you have some reason to exist…”

    crikey..!..the big-questions..!..there..beryl..

    well…all i can figure out/have been able to come up with… there..beryl..is that maybe i’ve been sent to help the animals in their hour of need..there..beyrl..

    http://whoar.co.nz/?s=vegan

    ..so i lean into that..eh..?

    how about you..?

    what ‘reason’ do you have for your particular sad/miserable/bitter existence/life..?..in this vale of tears..?..there..beryl..

    ..got any ideas..?

    or do you only externalise/project yr existentialism…?

    ..interesting question there tho’ beryl..(gotta be on the shortlist for question-of-the-day..eh..?..

    (..even bigger than the current ‘big-one':..’just how did the all blacks manage to win that game..?’..eh..?)

    ..maybe you are a spreader of light/joy there beryl..?..in yr life..

    (do lots of ‘good-works’..do ya..?..you strike me as the type..the milk of human kindness obviously runs deep in you…eh..?

    ..that bitterness/anger/inner-angst/general-miserableness you project so well is just a mask…eh..beryl..?

    ..underneath yr just a giggly-cuddle/a ball of fun..aren’t ya..?

    ..you josher..!..eh..?

    ..fooling us all like that…

    ..trying to make us all think you are just a miserable/nasty cow…

    ..eh..?

    ..when really you are a ‘deep-thinker’…

    as evidenced by yr question-of-the-day…eh..?

    ..thanks for sharing there…beryl..

    ..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  116. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Once more, the big magpie, the interweb cockroach, gets shit-face stoned and collapses head first onto the keyboard …

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  117. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    One of the hyperlinks on Stuff reads “McCaw snubs Jersey swap”.

    McCaw declined the invitation to exchange his jersey with the French number seven in the round-robin game and in the final. He thought that because the jersey that he earned in the round-robin game was his 100th test jersey and the one that he wore yesterday was a World Cup winning jersey he had some reason to feel attached to them. How that can amount to a “snub” is beyond me. Why do some editors insist on looking at perfectly reasonable reactions in the most jaundiced manner?

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  118. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    wow.
    Got under your skin a bit there did i philu.
    I ask you one question and you respond with 13 odd purile, half comprehensible ones of your own.
    What a pathetic article.
    i’ll try my one question again.
    What are you going to do when your 16 years sitting on your arse on the DPB
    come to an end.
    Let me guess. Go on to your next bludging bene or…..
    You will rely on your poor sprog to support you.
    What a cross he will have to bear.
    Over to you again………..eh!!!
    Try harder this time………….eh!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  119. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    mumbling..’scuse me while i kiss the sky’..his drool spread across the stained-desk…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  120. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    sorry beryl..my bad..it’s obvious you don’t really do existentialism..eh..?

    ..and as for ‘getting under my skin’..?…

    ..have you visited/do you have any understanding of the concept of ‘the foil’..?..there..beryl..

    ..consider yrslf foiled…eh..?

    ..but big bruv has pipped you at the post and got (involuntary) foil-of-the-day…

    ..for his question enabling me to talk about my day-job/passion…about whoar…

    ..eh..?

    (i do hope you aren’t feeling ‘used’..there..eh..?..beryl..?..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  121. Inventory2 (10,290 comments) says:

    So Whoar is doing well eh Phil?

    I see that you’re the 2,138,301st most visited site on the internet globally.

    By way of comparison, Keeping Stock is the 398,515th most visited site, and Kiwiblog is the 57,890th. I guess you’re not going to knock the Huffington Post (86th most visited site in the world) off its perch any time soon. Maybe you should tell your Case Manager just what a fraud your “job” really is; before someone else does.

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  122. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    philu. Right under your skin like a rash. Right.
    5 more semi comprehensible questions as your pathetic excuses for an answer.
    Surely even you can do better philu.
    Try and address the question. Show us what you’ve got.

    What will you do when your 16 long years sitting on your arse come to an end ?

    Are you relying on, “Hey son, I could have really been somebody but I chose to sit on my arse to
    help you. Now you owe me.” That going to be your trump card mate ? The poor sod.

    Or . Give it the best philu answer you can muster. Really try this time……….eh!!!!!!!
    It’s no fun beating you up if you don’t even fight back……….eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Over to you again…………………..eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Give it all you’ve got baby.

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  123. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    Scoff if you will I2.

    The word is that the cockroach’s site is heading towards 2,138,302 with a bullet (that wouldn’t be a lead bullet either).

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  124. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    Keep chatting there boys, I’m trying to write down all of phil’s punctuation as fast as I can on the big papery thing that I’ve tied together with string.

    It’s fuckin hard to get the right number of ?’s as he uses so many at once but I am struggling on.

    After I’ve finished the dictionary I might write a treatise on mental illness.

    Phil could supply enough material for a ten volume series on the subject. :)

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  125. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    i guess ‘thick but dogged’ could be used to sum you up there..beryl…

    ..i’ll try to keep the ‘semi-comprehensibles’ from you ..eh..?

    ..(and i’ll type slower…

    ..’cos i don’t want you to ‘beat up on me’ any more..eh..?..sob..!..)

    ..phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  126. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    Here’s a bit of fun: interactive map of internet cables around the world.

    http://www.submarinecablemap.com/

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  127. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    RWC is over and everything is back to normal. Philu occupies 50% of the physical space on KB and 80% of the argument. One would have thought that with all that practice he could have learned to write comprehensibly by now. No such luck.

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  128. Johnboy (16,059 comments) says:

    I may call my tome “Doctor Johnboys Dictionary”.

    A title to kindle the imagination and light the flame of knowledge methinks. :)

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  129. bereal (3,137 comments) says:

    Like i said philu,
    it’s just no fun beating you up when you are unable to defend yourself.
    Now we all know it’s just beyond your limited intellect to simply address a question.
    Coro on now, its almost as much fun as exposing you, but not quite.
    See you again loser.

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  130. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    BTW, wots phil saying now? Since I’ve ripped him, GD’s shrunk to about a page and a half.

    BTW2: phil, don’t bother explaining, I can’t see you.

    Awwwwwww.

    Johnboy, good thought, but I fear the dictionary won’t make much sense to we “normies” since phil’s not quite so hot on the comprehenshun. Eh?

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  131. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    ok…

    ..why don’t you other morons join him in the echo-chamber..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  132. adze (2,105 comments) says:

    Speaking of echo chambers, phil, the hyperlink in your name is broken.

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  133. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    In the unlikely event that they did dig that far down, and in the unlikelier event that their plastic spades severed the £250 million Apollo North double-armoured OALC-4 SPDA cable, all our computers could lurch to a funereal pace.

    Most people think the internet is beamed around the planet by satellites. In fact, 90 per cent of global internet traffic is carried by a vast cable network, thousands of miles of which snake under the oceans.

    The two busiest internet hubs are New York and London, and nine cables link them. But the one pictured above is the Atlantic’s newest and most advanced submarine cable system. It is so powerful that it could carry the entire internet content in both directions even if the other eight lines failed simultaneously.

    It travels 3,800 miles along the seabed from New York and reaches land at this north Cornish beach, making this remote footnote on Britain’s coastline one of the most important and powerful telecommunications hubs in the world.

    The precise location is secret for fear of terrorist sabotage, hence the grainy nature of our pictures – they were snapped by one of the cabling team and have never been published before. Live was given this one only when all interested parties agreed the beach is unidentifiable; we know where it is, but we’re not telling, for obvious reasons.

    The small flaw in this fiendishly clever plan is that the beach photo has a small segment of visible land promontory, which I would thought, might give your average terrorist more than a small clue as to just exactly which beach it is. Or haven’t they ever heard of that well known terrorist cell: The Cornish National Liberation Front?

    Crikey.

    Let’s hope it’s all just a clever decoy to keep the CNLF people busy for years and years, as they furiously dig up beach after beach, looking for a cable which isn’t there at all, since it was really just a photoshop promontory cleverly inserted by the local MI-5 office, and the cable isn’t really in Cornwall at all, it’s somewhere else.

    Rather exciting, isn’t it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1196775/Web-trouble-The-hidden-cables-Cornish-beach-feeding-worlds-internet.html

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  134. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    phil, the hyperlink in your name is broken.

    Perhaps the CNLF people finally got to Apollo and they’ve broken the internet, adze.

    Or perhaps someone somewhere just thought it was a good idea to take out whoar.co.nz for the good of humanity.

    Awwwwwwwww.

    Now phil has to get a real job.

    Awwwwwwwww.

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  135. Elaycee (4,372 comments) says:

    Jeez – I head off to watch the All Blacks in downtown Auckland and in the meantime the prolific posting moron takes a swipe.

    Memo moron: If you want to have a war of words, best pick on someone at your own level – perhaps someone else who can tolerate you from within your institution. I choose to skip your posts because they lack substance, lack intelligent form and don’t add value to any debate. Basically, they are worthless.

    Thanks to others who cut and paste to respond to you (and I acknowledge their superior patience), its clear that you are not only an intellectually deficient moron but also a self confessed menace on the road. Indeed, the boy racer driving habits you advocate are further proof (not that any is needed) that you should have your driving licence revoked as you’re nothing more than a total idiot – off and on the road. I can only hope that other drivers who live near you (in East Auckland) know your vehicle so they can keep away from you.

    I suspect you’re really Philu without the morse code. { .. / .. / } … eh?

    Now take a few deep breaths because the nice people in white coats will soon be along to tuck you in for the night.

    Don’t forget to take your pills.

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  136. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..Speaking of echo chambers, phil, the hyperlink in your name is broken…”

    farrar wouldn’t do that on purpose..would he..?

    ..i’m sure he will fix it when he sees yr comment..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  137. Scott Chris (6,058 comments) says:

    Heh, I know that deep down, Elaycee still loves me.

    And she has to keep reading my posts so that she can report me to King David if I say anything disrespectful.

    What torture it must be for her waiting for someone else to paste one of my comments so she can claim she didn’t actually read mine.

    :P

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  138. Andrei (2,568 comments) says:

    Is it the latest style on the Côte d’Azur?

    Or the height of sartorial elegance on the pebbly sands of the Aegean perhaps?

    No it’s the height of beach wear fashion in a place much closer to home

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  139. nasska (11,277 comments) says:

    A guy has been asking the prettiest girl in town for a date and
    finally she agrees to go out with him. He takes her to a nice
    restaurant, buys her a fancy dinner with expensive wine and on the
    way home he pulls over to the side of the road in a secluded spot.
    They start necking and he’s getting pretty excited. He starts to
    reach under her skirt and she stops him, saying she’s a virgin and
    wants to stay that way.
    “Well, OK,” he says, “how a bout a blow job?”
    “EEEEyyyyyyeeeewwwwwww!” she screams. “I’m not putting that thing
    in my mouth!”
    He says, “Well, then, how about a hand job?” “I’ve never done
    that,” she says. “What do I have to do?”
    “Well,” he answers, “remember when you were a kid and you used to
    shake up a Coke bottle and spray your brother with it?”
    She nods. “Well, it’s just like that.” So he pulls it out and she
    grabs hold of it and starts shaking it. A few seconds later, his
    head flops back on the headrest, his eyes close, snot starts to run
    out of his nose, wax blows out of his ear and he screams out in pain.
    “What’s wrong?!” she cries out.
    “TAKE YOUR THUMB OFF THE END!!!!!!”

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  140. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    maori tv is doing a minor leaders’ debate…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  141. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    one example of mana policy…

    ..feed 270,000 children in poverty in low-decile schools breakfast and lunches…cost:..$38 million per yr…

    ..paid for by bringing the troops home from afghanistan..costing us $40 million per yr..

    ..as harawira said…’it ain’t rocket-science..’..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  142. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    peters is doing surprisingly well..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  143. Mick Mac (1,091 comments) says:

    # Tauhei Notts (958) Says:
    October 24th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    If you attending a Kiwi Fun Day today try and answer this quiz question.
    Which New Zealand company, which did not pay one cent in income taxes during the year ended 31st July 2011, had more than 240 N.Z. employees on more than $200,000 per year pay?
    If you don’t believe me then read pages 63, 109 and 110 of their Annual Report.

    come on tell us you twat!
    At least you could have given us a url.
    240 employees on 200k and the company pays no tax is pretty special.

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  144. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    harawira cites treasury-figures showing you could employ all the unemployed…on $15 per hr..

    ..just by reversing keys’ tax cuts for the rich…

    ..whoar..!..eh..?

    harawira also cites the european-leaders/european union..who support his hone heke tax..

    ..i tell ya folks..

    ..it’s a new world a’ coming..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  145. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    Phil, The reason why people are here on KB is that they are not interested in Hone and co – or they are capable of multitasking and are watching and posting at the same time. Simple message – if we want to go there, we will. No need to clutter up this site with a running commentary. You aren’t the KB roving reporter

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  146. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and as far as setting the bar high for the other channels in their political debates..

    ..maori tv has certainly done that…

    ..(in fact..’native affairs’ regularly sets high standards in political talk shows..

    ..and much of the credit for that must go to the host/interviewer…

    ..he gives good interview…eh..?

    ..as opposed to that ‘i’m gonna catch you out/shout you down!’ shit-fests interview-method favoured by the interviewers from one and three..

    ..julian gives interviiew where the viewer actually comes away knowing more about the subject/person under discussion..

    …and someone should tell those others that this is the purpose of an interview..

    ..it really isn’t all about them..and their arm-wrestling skills..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  147. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    it’s easy nookin..just scroll past…or rip..eh..?

    ..and who voted you spokesperson..?

    and hey..!..it also isn’t just all about you..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  148. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    and hey nookin..it’s an election campaign..an mmp one..and this is a debate between the political leaders of four contesting parties..

    ..one of those parties is in a coalition with yr nacts..

    ..not relevant enough for you..?

    ..you’d rather return to dissecting paintergate..?

    ..look..!..over there..!..taito phillip fields is out of jail..!

    ..that’s a favoured topic too..eh..?..

    ..in this land of the one-eyed..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  149. reid (16,290 comments) says:

    What to do if you think your rely may become a zombie…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2038565/Skeletons-buried-stones-mouths-stop-returning-zombies-discovered-Ireland.html

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  150. Other_Andy (2,608 comments) says:

    I am out of here.
    25+ mostly incomprehensible ramblings on one thread……..
    Got better things to do than wading through screeds of utter unreadable rubbish.

    Goodbye Kiwiblog.
    I will be back when the miscreant is gone.

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  151. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    just rip..andy..just rip..

    hug/embrace the silence…

    ..and then you’ll just never know..eh..?

    ..just like all the other rip-ers..

    ..enjoying the sound of one (conversational) hand clapping..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  152. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..What to do if you think your rely (sic) may become a zombie…”

    sign them up for the act party..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  153. Put it away (2,878 comments) says:

    I had the misfortune of visiting this site from another PC that doesn’t have phool RIP’d, and christ what an unreadable mess it is with his stoned dribblings of full stops ruining the signal to noise ratio.

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  154. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    (but never mind the dots..!…feel the quality..!..)

    they are only full-stops there..pia..

    ..get a grip..!..

    ..eh..?

    semi-colons must set you right off..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  155. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    Neighbourhood is well rooted. Time for a break

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  156. thedavincimode (6,691 comments) says:

    You mean this neighbourhood Nookin? ;)

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  157. Manolo (13,571 comments) says:

    Supreme irony: A deeply corrupt organisation teaching us to be virtuous!
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

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  158. philu (13,393 comments) says:

    “..ruining the signal to noise ratio…”

    worst/cruelest – kiwiblog-insult-ever…

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  159. Nookin (3,281 comments) says:

    Yup.

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