Another gracious winner
December 11th, 2011 at 6:37 pm by David FarrarLabour wonder why they are known as the nasty party and their vote dropped. Look at Carmel Sepuloni’s response to winning Waitakere:
‘‘I don’t think Paula Bennett has been good for Waitakere,” she said.
”At the end of the day, the voters have spoken. And despite the fact it is close, it just goes to show that there are 11 more people that think she wasn’t [good].
This reminds me of how Labour MP Kris Faafoi after his narrow victory in the Mana by-election, labeled Hekia Parata a two time loser. So classy.
Has Kate Wilkinson got up and said nasty things about Clayton Cosgrove whom she beat? Has Nicky Wagner put the boot into Brendon Burns? Did Nikki Kaye’s team put the boot into Jacinda Ardern when she conceded, or did they give her a round of applause?
The only thing worse than sore losers is ungracious winners. Perhaps Carmel could have said things about what an honour and privilege it is, and how she will work her hardest for all her constituents – rather than put the boot into her opponent.
I hope the new Labour leader can help engender a culture change within Labour.
On a related note Phil Quin notes:
Don’t get me wrong, Carmel Sepuloni pipping Paula Bennett at the post is a pleasing outcome, but I was surprised to read a statement this afternoon from Labour’s President Moira Coatsworth and General Secretary Chris Flatt that described the 11-vote win as a “momentous” and “a great victory for Labour.”
By this measure, the Christchurch Central result must be a “shocking blow” and a “grave defeat”; Raymond Huo’s departure from Parliament must be “a tragic loss”; and my lacklustre 40 minute cardio workout at the gym this morning must surely qualify as “an athletic triumph”.
Tone-deaf.
Waitakere is a seat which normally goes Labour. It is of course a blow to National and to Paula to lose it, but it was held by Labour from 1946 to 1981 continuously by Labour, and since being re-formed in 1993 has lost some of its bluer areas to Helensville so was always going to be tough to hold (even though I personally did think Paula would hold on).
Losing a seat like Christchurch Central which you have held for 60+ years is a far bigger event.
Tags: carmel sepuloni, Labour
December 11th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I pointed this out last night (and got demerit points!). Seems out are an outsider around here unless you support Labour!
Sepuloni and others are just low lifes and we shall show them up in court with electoral petitions for their fraud and nefarious activities.
To win such a seat by a handful of votes from people residing in that cemetary in Glen Eden is pathetic for Labour; equally pathetic is their candidates undignified behaviour. If people in West Auckland had any brains they would be in work – then they would not have to worry about ‘beneficiary bashing’
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Carmel is a nasty piece of work. Her behavior in the house is shameful at best (getting personal, refusing to apologize etc). She should not be allowed any parliament and it only makes me even more disappointing that she won with these remarks. I have to say Whale’s nick name of ‘Septic Tank’ is oh so accurate.
I mistook Phil Quin and Paul Quinn for a moment there, in fact had a minor heart attack!!
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
One should always expect the worst from socialists. That way there’s no room for surprises.
Speaking of election winners. I did a little research on the interweb thingy. I’m 99.99 % certain Richard Prosser from NZ Worst is no relation. Thank God.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
It is plain and simple ..
A lack of manners.. Courtesy costs nothing.
Reflects on her upbringing .
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Agree with all of that David.
Why is it also that left wing twits such as Hubbard in the SST today produce a page of bile, the likes of which I have never seen in respect of any party that polled 48% in a general Election?
Vote:Makes Cullen’s infamous jibe seem mild. And it simply confirms that if there is any electoral arrogance it resides with the angry and bitterly twisted left.
December 11th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
She does, on evidence, seem like a nasty piece of work.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
David Prosser
Its all right, you can pick you freinds ,not your relatives, we’ll be kind, claim him as a cousin now before someone does a 6 degrees of seperation on you and he claims you as a relation
Whale actually had you as him this morning
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Not only she “seems”, she is an obnoxious and detestable individual. Socialist Labour is doomed with MPs like Sepuloni.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Sepuloni said she had met a lot of people ”disillusioned with the National Party” while on he campaign trail. .. so to be fair, and I’m sure Sepuloni is (phittttt) the same applies to Labours overall result .. not sure if either David would be happy with her latest rant
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Socialist Labour has been doomed for ages. Just as an aside – do you realise National has been ahead in opinion polls for 8 years??? EIGHT years (apart for election day 2005 itself, alas). These Labour people are pathetic.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
“Did Nikki Kaye’s team put the boot into Jacinda Ardern when she conceded?”
Funnily enough I don’t recall Adern behaving like a twat and disclosing personal information about a constituent. Bennett did so and has since been asked to apologise by none other than the Privacy Commissioner. You’d think that Bennett would show Marie Shroff some respect…I guess we’ll have a long wait.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
I look forward to both candidates’ responses to the judicial re-count results.
Furthermore, I wonder if the Electoral Commission will have the balls ask the real
questions and demand answers to why results were leaked to the bloggers and the press.
Neither a journalist or a blogger should reveal such a source; one would expect
that they don’t, either.
So, are the Commission going to admit some of their staff have screwed
Vote:up big time and can’t keep their mouths shut, or will they write all the stories
off as pure speculation?
December 11th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Would the loss of Bennett be such a big deal?
Despite all her talk of getting tough on the thousands of benefit parasites she has done nothing about it at all.
As far as I am concerned she is no loss at all.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Counting votes…
Vote:Some folk do not seem to realise thaT EVERY candidate is entitled to a scrutineer at the vote counting. They are party/candidate appointees there to “ensure” the count is fair.
Since the Waitakere septic tank was in the lead, albeit by 11, guess where the leak came from?
December 11th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
The septic tank is going to look bloody stupid after the judicial recount.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
The judicial recount could see Paula back as member, what then for Labour.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
1. They do?
2. They are?
The “Nasty Party” moniker may have some truth in it, but outside here, Whale Oil, and Keeping Stock, the New Zealand Labour Party is not known as the Nasty Party. Maybe it will stick if you keep it up, but it hasn’t yet.
That said, if Labour is known as the Nasty Party, I’m pretty they haven’t yet started introspectively wondering why that is
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
From the public personna of this seriously retarded uber socialist I think her response was entirely predictable and probably close to as Good as It Gets.
She is the very ugly face of Labour.
Who was it again that campaigned for a fairer New Zealand.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
It makeas no differecde Yawn
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
“The judicial recount could see Paula back as member, what then for Labour.”
She already is an MP…it won’t make any difference to the numbers. And it won’t change Bennett from the arrogant rude person that she is.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
The more amusing 10-vote margin in Waitakere was between the Legalise Cannabis party’s candidate and Sue Bradford for Mana.
To clarify: Sue Bradford, 320; Jeff Lye, 330.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
she is a disgusting creature.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Sepuloni lives in Henderson Heights – the gentrified National supporting area – not exactly getting down with the cock relations in Ranui & Universal Drive/lower Massey.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Labour … sad .. loser… no class…what’s new?
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Paula and Winston could be co-leaders of the ‘List Club.’
Oh no, silly of me – Winston wasn’t rejected as an elected candidate so perhaps Paula could offer Prosser the shared leadership, it’s almost romantic. ‘Midnite at the oasis, take your camel to bed.’ I wonder who is the biggest hump.
Carmel must be on a diet of tacks, she could do with a good de-stressing and advice on how not to act like a porker after getting her snout in the trough.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Yes, I’m afraid the Camel was not one of Laobour’s nicer or more honourable members…If she wins in the end I hope she learned something last term…like how foolish she was to make Plughead Cosgrove her mentor…she made a bullshit complaint to the Speaker about me (failed) taking her lead from Cosgrove’s outright dishonest complaint about me which also failed…slow learner; poor picker of mentors…
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
slow learner; poor picker of mentors
Really?
What a low low low low low low low candidate selection threshold the left appear to have.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
tvb If Carmel (Septic Tank) Sepuloni loses a judicial recount then she is job hunting and Raymond Huo is a Labour MP again.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Ross
You seem to have a particular issue with Paula Bennett and Natasha Fuller. Specifically, you have suggested on a number of occasions now that the Privacy Commissioner has suggested that Ms Bennett apologise and that Ms Bennett has defied her.
We have had numerous reports about this matter – none for over 12 months, however. At one stage the Privacy Commissioner indicated that the parties could not settle and that there matter would be referred to the next stage in order to see whether proceedings should be initiated. The Privacy Commissioner did not actually say that there was a breach of privacy warranting proceedings, only that there was a case to answer. I rather suspect that with the lapse of time, the matter has either been resolved or Prosecutions has determined that there is in fact no case to answer.
You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this case and so you may know more about it than the I have been able to ascertain.
As to the apology, the report to which I link below suggests that there was in fact an apology and it was accepted. Ms Fuller initially stated that she was not after any money but seems to have changed her mind and, afterwards, made a claim for $15,000.
I have not heard any suggestion that the Privacy Commissioner has made any sort of recommendation that payment be made of this or any amount.
In the meantime, however, your repeated assertions that Ms Bennett does not have the courtesy to apologise do seem to be incorrect.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Beneficiary-admits-fabricating-Bennett-meeting-details/tabid/419/articleID/153588/Default.aspx
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
As a person that knew Natasha Fuller since she was a little girl, I and many other that know were LOL-ing about her original Herald article. Even the most left-leaning of the old crowd were saying “Woe be unto her, when it all comes out…”. Paula Bennett did nothing other than to alert the general public of NZ to what all of the people in a certain small town were openly talking about.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Hey Waitakere,
You ever stop to wonder why your best kids leave and the others stay poor?
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Any more detail?
Vote:She does seem to be a self-confessed liar.
December 11th, 2011 at 10:13 pm
Whether she apologised or not the bare facts remain that she considers being a ‘westie’ an election issue, and that is what she projected in her campaign, hardly imaginitive or crucial to winning votes. She has willingly engaged in cat fights. That Carmel couldn’t build on her victory by being gracious or magnaminous only underlines what a raw deal the voters in Waitakere achieved, and how threadbare Paula’s election in 2008 has proven to be.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Nookin,
I dunno … why don’t you go and ask some people from Tok.
But then, maybe they wont talk to you. Most especially right now.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
“Perhaps Carmel could have said things about what an honour and privilege it is”
You would need a measurable IQ to do that.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Given Paula insinuated that Labour broke the law in getting the win, I think it’s fair.
As for your example of Fa’afoi, Fa’afoi made those comments after John Key and Hekia Parata tried to claim their loss as a victory, when it was a loss.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
I believe Carmel is actually Charles Chauvel in drag – look at the eyes. Same personality also.
Vote:December 11th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
flipper 7:10 pm. There are several reasons they are like that. Firstly, the main socialist premise is a lie. Human nature is immutable. Secondly, socialisim is a secular religion. It’s very hard to change religions. Thirdly, policies based on the main premise, are doomed to fail. Fourthly, anything goes, as long as you win. Repeated failure is hard to bear. Changing faith is very hard. Losing an election is gut wrenching. Add all those things up, and you get a bunch of angry socialists. Ditto for their fellow travellers in the antique media, academia, and the churches. These factors all add up to a bunch of less than happy socialists. Wonderful isn’t it? Wait til they get displaced by the ‘Greens’ in 2017.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Pauleastbay 7:11 Thanks for the heads up. I contacted Whale and told him I’m no relation. His reference must have been a Freudian slip. Perhaps I could change my name to John Smith. Keep up the interesting posts.
cheers
David Prosser
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 12:20 am
tvb If Carmel Sepuloni loses a judicial recount then she is job hunting and Raymond Huo is a Labour MP again.
And if Carmel Sepuloni then commences an election petition, and wins that on the basis that she had more valid votes, both she and Raymond Huo are Labour MPs, and Paula Bennett is out of Parliament.
Vote:[as counter-intutive as that may seem]
December 12th, 2011 at 7:36 am
Hopefully the NEW MP for Waitakere can answer peoples’ questions about public policy, and respond to criticism of the Govt without just resorting to smearing the asker of the question (like the former MP for Waitakere)…
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 7:57 am
It was a remarkable coincidence only National Party/ Paula Bennett signs were vandalized here in West Auckland.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I think it remarkable that Bennet did as well as she did at the polls, due to her absence from the West over the past three years and the consequent lack of representation of her constituents.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Carmel Sepuloni, is a nasty piece of goods. She is so busy slinging mud at Paula, saying that she is no good for the West. Does she really believe that she is. Sepuloni, looks like the local Heifer. Paula Bennett, has done a great job of the Welfare portfolio. I can’t imagine Sepuloni doing much, I haven’t heard a constructive remark come out of her mouth. One good thing is we still have Paula in Parliament via the list. 11 votes, hardly a mandate, for Ms Sepuloni.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I’ve given this some thought and have come to the conclusion that the only feasible way for this issue to be resolved between these two ladies involves an inflatable pool full of caramel blancmange.
And a large baying audience.
Who’s with me?
OOer – I just noticed . . .I think ‘Caramel’ may have been a Freudian slip.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Lance (1,103) Says:
December 12th, 2011 at 7:57 am
It was a remarkable coincidence only National Party/ Paula Bennett signs were vandalized here in West Auckland.
And national party signs were vandalised here in Rimutaka so your point is?
What a storm in a teacup. Bennett lost in a marginal seat. Sepuloni is a somewhat graceless winner. Bennett is not that popular amongst beneficiaries. Now these are stunning revelations to get indignant about. I don’t have much time for Sepuloni or Bennett but sadly one of them had to win and even more irritating is that they are both in parliament.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 11:06 am
I once heard her called “Septic” Sepuloni” from a Labour Party member.
Vote:They gave her such a low rating in the hope that that would be the end of her – and that’s Labour.
December 12th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I noticed a tweet from Sue Bradford on Friday:
Toxic! If she’d just left the last two words of it would’ve been a very positive message wishing Carmel good luck. Those two words serve no purpose but to be nasty.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
“I rather suspect that with the lapse of time, the matter has either been resolved or Prosecutions has determined that there is in fact no case to answer.”
No, the matter hasn’t been resolved. Bennett has not publicly aplogised; in fact she has said she’s got nothing to apologise for. Such is the arrogance of the woman. TV3 reported that Bennett has had to pay their court costs over a related matter. When this is all over, Bennett’s arrogance will have cost taxpayers a tidy sum.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
I thought what she had to say after winning by a mere ELEVEN votes was appalling. You’d think she’d won by a landslide the way she behaved. Disgusting. However, karma has a way of doing justice to people like that in the end.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
And recently John Key claimed that Bennett’s human rights had been breached. How pathetic can you get!
http://www.3news.co.nz/PM-wants-answers-over-Bennett-document/tabid/419/articleID/232542/Default.aspx
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
“How pathetic can you get!”
8)
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Those two words serve no purpose but to be nasty.
Sue Bradford herself seems at times to serve no purpose but to be nasty.
Vote:December 12th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I’m no fan of Sepuloni, but I do wonder if some people’s only experience of her was watching her in that appalling display of disrespect to the speaker and our parliament.
I went out one day and found another video of her and she actually smiled in it.
That said, I find no evidence she apologized for her behavior, nor even that she was asked.
Vote:December 13th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Speaking of two unnecessary words…
Vote: