Arm the taxi drivers says NZ First MP

December 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm by David Farrar

The Canterbury Star reports:

One of Canterbury’s newest MPs wants to ban the burqa and arm bank tellers, dairy owners and taxi drivers.  

NZ First list MP garnered just 538 votes in the Waimakariri electorate, but swept into Parliament on the strength of party leader Winston Peters’ rise from the grave.  

He makes no apology for the strength of the controversial Rightist ideas he has been pushing for almost 10 years. 

Oh armed taxi drivers would be hilarious fun. You know how the taxi drivers honks and curses when someone cuts them off in traffic? Well now they’ll be able to mow them down.

And think if two drivers get into a dispute over a cab rank. They can sort it out with a duel.

On compulsory military training: “There will be the pacifists, the weaklings, the other cowards and bludgers … who will conscientiously object … they can spend a couple of years picking up rubbish off the beaches and digging out long-drops for DOC instead.”

At least with CMT, people will be better equipped to handle being shot at by bank tellers or taxi drivers.

“As recently as 1973 every bank in New Zealand had a pistol under the counter and tellers undertook regular revolver training.

Really? Can someone confirm this?

He suggests “dairy owners and householders alike” should be allowed to have a “shotgun within reach, and taxi drivers as well as cops should almost be required to have at least a Walther PPK clipped to the sun visor”.

I like how he specifies the brand of the gun. I hope us bloggers will be allowed them also to cope with the stalkers.

I love how so many lefties tactically voted to get NZ First into Parliament. They have made life so much more enjoyable for us bloggers.

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82 Responses to “Arm the taxi drivers says NZ First MP”

  1. 103PapPap (131 comments) says:

    Re Revolvers in Banks — Back in the 1960s I was servicing adding machines – tellers had adding machines – and it was common to see the revolvers on the shelf under the counter. They were stored in the bank safe, and the tellers would get them before opening time. I don’t know when that practice stopped.

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  2. anonymouse (715 comments) says:

    taxi drivers as well as cops should almost be required to have at least a Walther PPK clipped to the sun visor”.

    If it is good enough for 007, then it must be good enough for taxi drivers.

    Although you get the feeling that with such strong opinions on these and other issues, he is gonna quickly get tired of having his vote cast on his behalf by the party each time….

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  3. DrDr (114 comments) says:

    Prosser the tosser – What other gems has Winston’s revival got in store for us.

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  4. peterwn (3,271 comments) says:

    “As recently as 1973 every bank in New Zealand had a pistol under the counter and tellers undertook regular revolver training.

    Really? Can someone confirm this?

    Yes, but probably more like one per bank branch. It would have been a legacy of Otago Gold Rush days. The practice would have been discontinued after a young bank officer played Russian Roulette with one with rather predictable results.

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  5. Paul Rain (47 comments) says:

    Taxi drivers are prone to homicidal rage because they don’t like being cut off by New Zealand’s piss poor drivers? An interesting insight.

    Next thing some right wing lunatic will be proposing that ordinary New Zealanders be allowed to arm themselves with lethal weapons that are currently banned, like pepper spray.

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  6. RightNow (6,994 comments) says:

    Really, NZ First sharing the opposition benches with Labour and team lefty is just going to be so much fun I’m going to have to set the TiVo to record parliament TV.

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  7. BeaB (2,123 comments) says:

    The Winston circus is back in town. Too many clowns as ever. It’s just a pity we have to foot the bill. Perhaps the House will be enough fun to compensate. Just imagine Shearer facing down this lot!
    In the meantime Key and his team can get on with the serious business of running the country.

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  8. immigant (950 comments) says:

    Why stop at a walther PPK, we need to move with the times Tech 9s for everyone.

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  9. leftyliberal (651 comments) says:

    Do we have any reason to believe that “so many lefties” tactically voted for NZ first rather than their own team, other than the handful that suggested they’d be doing so on the Standard?

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  10. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    “…lethal weapons that are currently banned, like pepper spray….”

    Lethal weapon? Pepper spray?

    Maybe if it gets in your eyes and you drive off a cliff. Or you stagger away from Body Odour Central and walk into the path of a bus. You’d have better odds winning Lotto than being killed by capsicum.

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  11. gravedodger (1,566 comments) says:

    I did a post on No Minister as to the contrast between the party ranking the NZF List and an outcome based on their ranking by the measure of support at Electorate level.

    One demented soul took me to task for not “knowing” This dork as he evidently contributes to Wishart’s Magazine, Investigate.

    Now it all becomes clear.
    He is defined as a nutter by his own words.

    And many voted for the “keep em honest dwarf” unaware what rubbish came in the bundle.

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  12. thedavincimode (6,759 comments) says:

    The Clown of Campbell’s Bay will be feeling a bit left out with Prosser the Tosser grabbing the headlines already.

    This should get even funnier very quickly.

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  13. slightlyright (93 comments) says:

    I recall a legal executive at my firm telling stories of working for BNZ in the 1960’s and he would be sent down to bluff branch from invercargill with a bag of money and a pistol, apparently it was quite common, it was a bit of a joke because they would take the bus and on the way back he apparently would sit the pistol on the seat at the back of the bus while he reconciled the money on it

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  14. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    At least he isn’t drinking his own urine! Or he is keeping quiet about it.

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  15. berend (1,708 comments) says:

    DPF’s opinions can be very hard to distinguish from lefties, a lot of times: give someone a gun, and what are they gonna do? Shoot of course!

    Let’s ban knifes and baseball bats too, because if you give them to the law-abiding folk, they’ll start stabbing and hitting.

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  16. Mark (1,488 comments) says:

    Parliament has had some flakey nutjobs in the past but this dweeb looks destined to be the best of them

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  17. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    I would have thought those who have been missing David Garrett’s Parliamentary contributions would welcome this guy. Guess every Parliament has to have at least one arch-bigot, otherwise it wouldn’t be representative.

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  18. Murray (8,847 comments) says:

    And theres the first of many facepalms for the NZ First voters. More to follow.

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  19. rouppe (971 comments) says:

    With the number of Somali taxi drivers in Wellington I’m not sure that would be a good idea.

    They get furious if a member of the public parks in a taxi rank. They get furious if a member of the public asks them to move from public spaces. They get furious when a customer complains when they don’t know where they’re going. They get furious when someone else on the road objects to them wandering across lanes cause they’re busy tapping into those machines on the dash…

    Maybe they could then start a new company – Pirate Taxis

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  20. JayMal (28 comments) says:

    I can confirm revolvers were common from at least the 1930s (and probably well before then) through to the 60s. Not sure when they stopped, but could have been the early 70s. Not sure about the regular training though…

    What is equally hilarious is all the VFC lobbyists who plastered Winstons picture everywhere. Two work mates were genuinely surprised when I told them the billboard they drove past every day was anti-Winston. They thought it was him opposing asset sales and thought it was pretty good advertising for him – one young fella almost voted for him based on it until we gave him a bit of a history lesson (lesson, unless stopped in traffic many people dont have time to read the whole billboard).

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  21. RRM (9,916 comments) says:

    …at least a Walther PPK clipped to the sun visor

    ^^^That Walther PPK comment right there is the point where I finally lost it and PMSL’d.

    Richard Prosser’s grasp of reality is obviously based on James Bond movies – the real early Sean Connery ones at that.

    (And I wonder, is Richard any relative of David Prosser (DJP6-25) who comments on here sometimes? I fancy they’d get on well together.)

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  22. hifman (1 comment) says:

    Shoot Richard Prosser (the loser) for even talking about baning the burka… I wish I could meet the guy in person…Arrrh…

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  23. George Patton (349 comments) says:

    1. Prosser clearly has a James Bond fetish – Walther PPK? I mean, really, has he seen too many movies? Maybe taxi drivers can drive Aston Martins as well, in case they need to get away from surprise attackers?

    2. Giving weapons to Islamic taxi drivers is probably the opposite of what Prosser wants. I suspect he only wants older white taxi drivers to have guns.

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  24. Rich Prick (1,700 comments) says:

    If I were a Somali taxi-driver with Winston in the back, you bet I’d want to be armed. :)

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  25. Paul Rain (47 comments) says:

    If we were really worried about Taxi wars, then perhaps we should avoid following the policy of the only country that’s had them on a serious scale, by allowing decent citizens to defend themselves. Allowing only criminals to arm up hasn’t worked well for honest Taxi drivers or the surviving Boer farmers in South Africa.

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  26. pdm (844 comments) says:

    peterwen 2.13pm – yep I was a BNZ employee in the 60’s and we had revolvers in the branches. As Head Teller Hastings in 1968 or 69 I had one in my cash trolley – it scared the hell of me every time I had to move it. We never had any training. The Branch Accountant also had one and one day in about 1970 he left his work tray with the pistol in it in one of the the strong rooms. One of the junior girls looking up some info for a customer found it and pulled the trigger – fortunately it was pointed into a bundle of old cheques or similar.

    In the mid to late 50’s a teller, in I think Dunedin actually shot and wounded a guy attempting a robbery. He was a hero within the bank in my time.

    We used to take them out once a year to an army range to test them – as I recall the bullets tended to dribble out they were so old and poorly maintained.

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  27. RRM (9,916 comments) says:

    One thing you have to give Winston, is that he is oily smooth.

    You’d think he’d surround himself with people not quite as embarrassing as this?

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  28. Don the Kiwi (1,750 comments) says:

    I can confirm that bank tellers had pistols in their boxes in the 60’s.
    I started work in the BNZ in Te Puke in 1960. There were 3 tellers cages – or counters. The head teller had a .38 revolver. The bank manager, and also the accountant had one also – so three .38 revolvers in Te Puke BNZ alone.

    In 1961 I spent 4 months at BNZ Wellington on relief duty transfer. One day a co-worker and I were aked to accompany the head teller to collect some cash from a van from the Reserve Bank. On the way out, he gave his .38 to my workmate and told him to keep it in his pocket till after the money had been put on the trolley and wheeled into the bank – we were just on the kerbside outside the bank, in those days in – I think – Lambton Key, just across and down the road from from Barretts Hotel next to the Plimmer steps.

    The staff had training, and shooting practice evry couple of years. Don’t know when it ceased – I left the bank in 1962.

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  29. KH (695 comments) says:

    These guys with the fantasy violence videos running inside their heads don’t really have political opinions.
    It’s all about imagined style.
    He probably hasn’t seen a ‘Walther PPK’, but does think them ever so really cool.
    After all it’s a great sounding name.
    Does he stand around in Cammo gear with a headband tied on ?
    He must be beside himself with excitement at how cool his pose is.

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  30. MT_Tinman (3,184 comments) says:

    people will be better equipped to handle being shot at by bank tellers or taxi drivers

    Shot at be f#$@ed! Shot!

    Dunno ’bout bank tellers but I want a howitzer or a rocket launcher and I won’t miss.

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  31. Planna ha ha (5 comments) says:

    Started work for Bank of New South Wales in Dunedin 1974. Twice had to take branch .38 with associate with old notes to reserve bank in Princes st.

    Gun was removed later in 1974 after some one discharged it in strongroom!

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  32. Grendel (1,002 comments) says:

    maybe you should try and get into parliament toad, you are more bigoted on your best day than Garrett ever was or is on his worst day. must be grating though that you are too unelectable even for the greens?

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  33. snowy (108 comments) says:

    My father purchased about half a dozen ex bank teller revolvers back when they discontinued using them (At least that’s what he told us – on reflection he actually may have been holding on to them for some of his more colourful clients). He kept them in a safe in our basement. I remember him showing them to us kids once, and I can recall that they looked pretty ancient.

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  34. DJP6-25 (1,387 comments) says:

    RRM 3:11 Not that I’m aware of. Although the surname is uncommon enough that one might think so. In the unlikely event that he is related; one isn’t responsible for the attitudes and conduct of relatives.

    Vote MMP, and get NZ Worst back, complete with clowns. Another own goal for the left.

    cheers

    David Prosser

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  35. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    “As recently as 1973 every bank in New Zealand had a pistol under the counter and tellers undertook regular revolver training.

    Really? Can someone confirm this?

    My uncle had firing range practice as a young fella in his first job in a bank (I forget which one); this certainly would have been in the 1970s when you consider he was born in 1954.

    I like the idea of everyone having access to weapons and the chance to practice with them. If nothing else, it will mean that an invading enemy would be faced with a hostile public that can shoot them, rather than a public who have to put up with it. In other words, the prickly hedgehog that nobody wants to fuck with.

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  36. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    It is surprising to read that in 1973 (and earlier) bank tellers had a shooter close at hand; according to the left wingers this was the socialist 1/4 acre pavola ‘golden age’ where there was no crime (crime, apparently, was invented by Rob Muldoon in the late ’70s when he also invented unemployment and inflation).

    As for this Prosser character he does seem to have a lot to say for himself – and he has not even taken his seat yet!

    This is just the latest in the NZ First comedy routine following on from the bloke with the $89 underpants, the bloke who was (or still is?) a 30 year old virgin, the bloke from Napier who had a ministerial career even shorter than Richard Worth, the woman minister who went AWOL in Paris (etc etc)

    I wonder if Winston has ever heard of conducting background checks?

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  37. laworder (292 comments) says:

    Mr Prosser the NZ First MP “suggests “dairy owners and householders alike” should be allowed to have a “shotgun within reach, and taxi drivers as well as cops should almost be required to have at least a Walther PPK clipped to the sun visor”.

    I LOVE that idea – as long as cyclists are also allowed to pack heat too.The Magnum .45 would be my favourite cycling accessory, although I’d be quite happy to have a Walther PPK clipped to my bike frame instead. Or maybe I could have one of those little baskets in front of the handlebars like on some ladies bikes, in which I could keep a selection of firearms and a couple hundred rounds, along with a grenade or two:-)

    Regards
    Peter J
    Webmaster for http://www.sensiblesentencing.org.nz

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  38. RRM (9,916 comments) says:

    according to the left wingers this was the socialist 1/4 acre pavola ‘golden age’ where there was no crime (crime, apparently, was invented by Rob Muldoon in the late ’70s when he also invented unemployment and inflation).

    Say WHAT…???

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  39. RRM (9,916 comments) says:

    David Prossor – my apologies, I fear I have unfairly maligned you…

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  40. Jim (397 comments) says:

    Guess every Parliament has to have at least one arch-bigot, otherwise it wouldn’t be representative.

    I’d prefer it if they discarded outliers. They could send them, armed, around to Berend’s house where they could debate the utility of guns vs knives as household essentials.

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  41. JamesS (352 comments) says:

    Oh yes RRM your spiritual leaders – Anderton, Clark et al have convinced a lot of incredibly stupid people who vote Labour that NZ used to have a golden age where nothing bad happened until Muldoon (and Roger Douglas, Shipley, Bolger, Key etc) came along and stuffed it all up.

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  42. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Prossers a tool…but on gun ownership for law abiding people he’s bang on. No peaceful person needs any permission from anyone else…state or otherwise to posses arms and to use them in their self defence…its a right and not up for the vote.

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  43. MikeG (425 comments) says:

    “I love how so many lefties tactically voted to get NZ First into Parliament.”

    One assumes that this is a case of Farrar repeating a lie often enough that people will start believing it. Let’s remember a couple of facts:
    1. National support dropped at the same time as NZF’s increased
    2. The right gained a smaller percentage of the vote that they had in the previous election

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  44. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    do we know if this asshole did his 2 years in the army??

    the army aint for everyone! certainly wouldnt have been for Dime. I was too busy making money and paying a butt load of tax!

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  45. toad (3,674 comments) says:

    I’m wondering if Richard Prosser also makes lewd comments to female staff and steals dead children’s identities. Seems like a good fit.

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  46. gazzmaniac (2,307 comments) says:

    I wonder if toad is a fuckwit. Oh wait, that last comment confirmed it.

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  47. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    @Mike G – have a look at the voting results and I think you’ll find you’ve scored an own goal.

    http://www.electionresults.govt.nz/electionresults_2011/

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  48. Tookinator (221 comments) says:

    Why stop with arming taxi drivers? What about MP’s too?
    A revolver could be placed on the desk in front of the chair of every MP in the debating chamber.
    Question time would be more fun, Some MP’s may also use them on their own side when they’ve had enough of listening to the inane drivel that their colleague is spouting in the general debate.
    There would be no need for a referendum on lowering the number of MP’s in Parliament as after a few question times the number of remaining MP’s would be quite low.
    Who wouldn’t tune into SKY to watch Parliament Live?

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  49. Ricardo (54 comments) says:

    “The Magnum .45 would be my favourite cycling accessory, ”

    What would you do? Throw bullets at people? Magnum .44 is a cartridge, not a pistol. The cartridge was adapted for both pistol and rifle use.

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  50. scanner (340 comments) says:

    Hats off to Winston, does he hand pick these froth heads or do they just offer themselves up?
    The sad thing is for the next three years some town in this country is going to have to do without their idiot.
    BTW the most dangerous thing in most taxi drivers hands would have to be a can of deodorant.

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  51. chiz (1,144 comments) says:

    Arming people doesn’t always work. My father was taxi driver. One night he picked up a couple of people who had, unbeknownst to him, just burgled some place. They didn’t want anyone to know what they looked like, so when they arrived at their destination they shot him at point blank range in the back of the head. If he had a gun it would probably have been stolen.

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  52. dime (9,972 comments) says:

    Toad – sometimes you’re just a miserable piece of shit.

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  53. Dazzaman (1,140 comments) says:

    Well, wonders never cease! Someone in parliament with some decent ideas for once.

    My wife’s vote for Winnie wasn’t a waste after all.

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  54. stephen (4,063 comments) says:

    My wife’s vote for Winnie wasn’t a waste after all.

    Probably best to wait until sometime in 2014 to answer that definitively…

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  55. barry (1,317 comments) says:

    Great !!!! i knew winston and his crew would bring some entertainment back to politics.
    All weve had for the last 3 years are the carry on of wierdos and queers – chris carter etc.

    This ism much more interesting.

    No one could give a rats arse about the queer brigade, but now weve got some attention on real things.

    France has banned the burqa and I think a scandinavian country has too.
    When one reads of muslim rules – like a virgin cant be executed so she has to be raped first – well then I think thats very good reason to ban these animals and their crazy rules.

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  56. RF (1,396 comments) says:

    I can confirm that in the small town where I worked the banks had to hand in their revolvers to the Police in 1975. One was brand new and never fired. The tellers could practice every 6 months if they wanted to. This was supervised by the Police. I can also remember Security guards riding shotgun in armoured cars carrying pistols in major cities in the mid 70s. Usually a .32 semi automatic that was hidden in your pocket.

    It’s all changed ….. Funny but there is more need for them now.

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  57. Scott Hamilton (298 comments) says:

    I suspect the last laugh may be on National, because Prosser et al might appeal to that party’s socially conservative wing.

    I was wondering though if anybody knew the extent of Prosser’s involvement in the South island independence movement (if ‘movement’ isn’t too grand a word to use). Has he just floated the idea of a South Island parliament, or has he actually been involved in one of the pro-independence groups, like the New Munster Party? The New Munsterites are a weird-sounding mob:
    http://readingthemaps.blogspot.com/2010/10/new-munster-redux.html

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  58. realize (21 comments) says:

    How can people like this be members of the NZ parliament? It’s embarrassing. Why are we moving towards the more ridiculous aspects of the American system, which is basically a caricature of democracy at this point.

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  59. SplicedGene (2 comments) says:

    “I was wondering though if anybody knew the extent of Prosser’s involvement in the South island independence movement (if ‘movement’ isn’t too grand a word to use).”

    Prosser was the person behind the failed attempt to resurrect the South Island Party for the 2008, unfortunately finding 500 like minded individuals proved to be too hard and he never registered the party. As the convener he wrote a cap in hand letter applying for advertising funding and everything

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  60. tristanb (1,127 comments) says:

    do we know if this asshole did his 2 years in the army??

    Fuck no.

    He’s some overweight, Avigra using, narcissist in his 40s who arrogantly believes that he knows best for young kids, despite likely being a delinquent himself. He’s never been in any war. He’s never done shit.

    One word summary: “Cock”

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  61. labours a joke (442 comments) says:

    “Toad – sometimes you’re just a miserable piece of shit.”

    Let me correct you..toad-you’re a miserable piece of shit.

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  62. plebe (271 comments) says:

    In the meantime Key and his team can get on with the serious business of running the country
    God and they have the idiot banks sitting at the back of their team whom thay can blame for any right wing crap they decide to run with.
    Dunne, and banks,what a waste of space, at lest winnie got in without keys backing, didnt he get more votes than the above two plus hone put together?

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  63. bc (1,367 comments) says:

    DPF “I love how so many lefties tactically voted to get NZ First into Parliament. They have made life so much more enjoyable for us bloggers.”

    Oh what a lot of rubbish, or is it another ‘irony’ attempt.
    First of all, how many ‘lefties’ tactically voted NZ First? Have you any evidence that there was a groundswell of ‘lefties’ doing this?
    Even if some ‘lefties’ tactically voted NZ First, they did well enough that I’m sure they would have hit the 5% mark without these tactical voters we keep hearing about.
    Secondly, the amount of blogging you do about NZ First suggests you are finding life quite a bit less enjoyable with NZ First rather than “so much more enjoyable”. Or are you being ironic?
    And no I am not a NZ First voter. I’m pretty annoyed they made it back actually – at least I can admit it! But to paraphrase John Key “That’s MMP for you”.

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  64. Michael (909 comments) says:

    I started in the late 80s and some of the older staff talked about the revolver under the counter.

    So it’s true bank tellers had guns until the early 1970s. It was the duty of the branch manager to arrange for maintenance of the guns and arrange for regular training on how to use it. Bank staff going to agencies would board public buses with thousands of dollars and a loaded gun in a satchel. No armoured vehicles in those days!

    They were phased out after a legal opinion was circulated that made their use redundant. The opinion was that an bank staff member who used them during a robbery to shoot a robber would in fact be liable for a manslaughter charge as the use to defend property would not be justifiable. If used to protect a person then it would be okay.

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  65. Nostalgia-NZ (5,191 comments) says:

    Life is tough for many taxi drivers these days and we all could all well do with being reminded of that. It’s no easy task driving a client from Ponsonby to Hamilton and then back to Grey Lynn where they claimed they really wanted to go to in the first place, and then refuse to pay $700. Things are not looking up I can tell ya.
    Prosser is treating this situation too lightly, and I might I add with some disdain. All taxi drivers should be armed at all times, and should be permitted to shoot potential customers on sight and take their wallets for fear that they weren’t going to be paid even if they weren’t robbed and wounded.

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  66. davidp (3,581 comments) says:

    Has anyone considered the idea that rather than arming all taxi drivers with Walther PPKs, most drivers could remain unarmed but there could be highly trained taxi driver SWAT teams in all NZ cities. The Taxi SWAT teams would be selected from drivers with military or tribal militia experience in Pakistan, Somalia, or which ever country they’ve emigrated from. They’d be armed with submachineguns and body armour and have access to helicopters. They’d be on 24×7 standby, ready to fast rope in to any situation that required Taxi SWAT intervention. Such as a customer complaining that the taxi was being driven randomly, or running off without paying the fare.

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  67. dad4justice (8,208 comments) says:

    Indeed davidp and dial a taxi tank service could help blow the fuck out of someone doing a runner.

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  68. Nostalgia-NZ (5,191 comments) says:

    Why wait till they run?

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  69. big bruv (13,882 comments) says:

    Is it any surprise that this new moronic NZ first MP is a Cantab?

    It is bad enough that I have to pay a salary to the likes of Delahunty and Hughes without adding this nut job to the list of unelected bludgers in the house.

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  70. Nostalgia-NZ (5,191 comments) says:

    I think they should take his taxi licence off him for being too conservative. He’s a blinken panderer.

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  71. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    Arming the taxi drivers will enable the sexual assualt of the fares so much easier. If its not a Corporate cab don’t get in it.

    South Islands own parliament, arming taxi drivers, this fat idiot is going to be a walking headline.

    I am struggling to find anyone to admit they voted for NZF, some one must be lying because their was 350000 of the fuckwits

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  72. James Stephenson (2,172 comments) says:

    I am struggling to find anyone to admit they voted for NZF, some one must be lying because their was 350000 of the fuckwits

    To be fair, many of them probably struggle to remember what they had for lunch yesterday but remember “that nice Mr Muldoon” quite clearly…

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  73. Elaycee (4,392 comments) says:

    plebe: “Dunne, and banks,what a waste of space, at lest winnie got in without keys backing, didnt he get more votes than the above two plus hone put together?”

    Actually, both Dunne and Banks won an electorate seat (they were voted into Parliament by the electorate in which they stood). They are now part of the treasury benches. Which means they are part of the Government.

    OTOH, WinstonWorst’s motley lot are List members who will be sitting on the opposition benches. With Labour. And the Gweens. And Hone. And who cares?

    Wish List: I hope that Andrew Williams will be sitting nearest the door leading to the toilets. Otherwise, I hope he is sitting directly behind his leader!

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  74. slightlyrighty (2,475 comments) says:

    I know of one person at my work who voted for NZ First, and my collegues think it’s hilarious.

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  75. Dave Mann (1,218 comments) says:

    It’s amazing how the ideas that citizens should be allowed to protect themselves from robbery and that we shouldn’t pander to alien cultural and religious valves which conflict with an open society have given rise to so much disgust and ridicule in these comments. This guy is going to be a breath of fresh air in the parliament and if all Winston achieves this lterm is to entertain us and disrupt their ability to fuck with our lives a little bit then it will be a bargain and a boon.

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  76. Scott (1,792 comments) says:

    David Mann-I quite agree.

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  77. Bob (497 comments) says:

    Regarding pistols in banks – I worked in a bank in Sydney in the 1950s when tellers had pistols. I had a .38 under the counter. I don’t know about New Zealand. What we would have done with them I don’t know probably shot innocent people. Tellers should have been told just to hand over the money if challenged. We knew then the bank lost more money through bad debts than it ever did in robberies. Just once I was sent for a practice shoot. It took place in the basement of a gun shop. There was no ear protection. We were told just to open our mouths. I am sure that has a lot to do with having to wear hearing aids now. Back then little attention was paid to industrial safety and health

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  78. Dave Mann (1,218 comments) says:

    @Bob: shit, you sound like a limp dribble (and I say that in a loving and respectful way of course, with due regard to your sensibilities…. )

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  79. Nookin (3,341 comments) says:

    “@Bob: shit, you sound like a limp dribble ”

    You think so, Dave? I didn’t think he sounded like Andrew Williams at all.

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  80. Bob (497 comments) says:

    Dave Mann, some of those who worked in the bank should never have been let within a mile of a firearm. One branch had a number of holes in the back of the building. A teller in a country branch took his pistol out rabbit shooting. Security was unknown.

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  81. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    Obviously it is a flaw with MMp that small parties get nutters on the party list (eg Catherine Delahunty). the good thing about MMp however is that it acts as a rough poll (assuming you know what the question is).

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  82. hj (6,991 comments) says:

    So Farrar discovers NZ First’s firsts weakness and it even brings Toad out of his hole. Nevertheless, our political setup still has one gaping hole (achillies heel) and that is house prices, immigration and infrastructure costs. The left “Greens” see this as a human rights issue rather than environmental and the real estate industry rides the pigs back; it will all be spun as a matter of MUL.

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