Labour not taking sides

February 27th, 2012 at 4:00 pm by David Farrar

David Shearer says Labour is not taking sides the in dispute, but here are two of his MPs on the picket line.

I guess they have no choice as the is actually an affiliate member of the Labour Party, and one of their donors. Not even the documented examples of union hostility to female and non European workers is enough to shake their support of the union.

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43 Responses to “Labour not taking sides”

  1. Manolo (14,161 comments) says:

    Ughhhhh.

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  2. dime (10,207 comments) says:

    love it. labour are just a shambles. hope it continues another few years

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  3. muncha1 (20 comments) says:

    No longer 2 MPs. New Zealand was truly blessed when Beaumont was thrown out.

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  4. ben (2,279 comments) says:

    Not even the documented examples of union hostility to female and non European workers is enough to shake their support of the union.

    Theyse got some bills to pay, methinks.

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  5. davidp (3,585 comments) says:

    Will we see Labour MPs shouting racial abuse at dark skinned workers or pissing in a barbecue?

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  6. ben (2,279 comments) says:

    Who is that with Jacinda?

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  7. Cactus Kate (536 comments) says:

    Anyone else find it hilarious that saveourport.com have chosen a National Pay blue for their campaign? #fail
    All we need is some clever kids to photoshop “I am a Key Person” on a Labour MP wearing the opponents colors and we have comedy.

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  8. OTGO (579 comments) says:

    When I look at that photo I see 2 women on holiday. Nice sunny day, big smiles for the camera, all a bit of fun really. All on our dime. Shame really, they are no better than beneficiaries when you think about it.

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  9. James Stephenson (2,265 comments) says:

    @CK – exactly my first thought, unfortunately I’m by no means a clever kid when it comes to photoshop.

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  10. alex Masterley (1,535 comments) says:

    Where were the barbeques?

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  11. RightNow (7,014 comments) says:

    For Cactus
    http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii530/RightNow2012/Keygroupies.jpg

    And the blank if you want to make your own
    http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii530/RightNow2012/Blanks.jpg

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  12. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    Alex – bbq was unpopular because it smelled funny

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  13. Keeping Stock (9,371 comments) says:

    Great stuff RightNow; watch Keeping Stock very soon for a caption contest!

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  14. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    What are they saving our Port from?

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  15. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay – efficiency. The eternal nemesis of the unionist.

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  16. Keeping Stock (9,371 comments) says:

    Pauleastbay asks

    What are they saving our Port from?

    The Maritime Union of New Zealand (Local 13)?

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  17. thor42 (971 comments) says:

    Hah – Shearer busted for lying – good stuff!
    Another lie by him here – on Stuff, he is quoted as saying “opportunities to make people work did not exist.”
    Bullshit.
    There are jobs out there at Maccas and Burger King, flipping burgers. There are jobs in supermarkets (and there is a massively-expanded one going in at Crofton Downs here in Wellington.). There are jobs in orchards (and we know that because the orchardists have to get people in from Fiji because NZers are so bloody lazy.) There was a comment on Stuff today as well, by a woman from Chch. She said that the work agencies down there were crying out for staff. So, yeah – there is lots of work out there if people get off their arses and look.

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  18. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    Be a bitch to be the Labour party and have to eat the EPMU’s dead rat and have to support the low lifes at MUNZ.

    Don’t see Labour MP’s out at the AFFCO dispute, not so sexy to be camped up in central Waikato waiting for toots eh.

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  19. dion (95 comments) says:

    Carol Beaumont? Why is it that so many failed politicians go on to lead unions?

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  20. mikenmild (12,299 comments) says:

    Umm, could be because that is their background before being an MP.

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  21. Pauleastbay (5,035 comments) says:

    I love the location out by the baths , why arent they in Customs Street where they can really breath up the fumes, its just a fucking picnic for a bludging list MP.

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  22. Chuck Bird (4,890 comments) says:

    “the documented examples of union hostility to female ”

    DPF I have not hear of this. Please expand.

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  23. Ross Miller (1,618 comments) says:

    Shearer comes out of this looking weak and ineffectual ….’Labour will not take sides in this dispute’.

    If a Government Cabinet Minister defied a direction of the PM then the backbench would beckon before lunchtime.

    In the Shearer paradigm it appears a member of the shadow cabinet can say to him ‘up your nose’ and get away with it.

    As I said … weak and ineffectual.

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  24. plebe (271 comments) says:

    davidp (2,215) Says:

    February 27th, 2012 at 4:22 pm
    Will we see Labour MPs shouting racial abuse at dark skinned workers or pissing in a barbecue?

    That sounds almost as bad as been pissed on by POA managment

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  25. RF (1,483 comments) says:

    Who is dah boss of the labour party. Sure as hell not shearer. Pick a card Sir you could be the next leader.

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  26. Keeping Stock (9,371 comments) says:

    mikenmild said

    Umm, could be because that is their background before being an MP.

    Quite so mikenmild. Perhaps what Dion should have asked was this; why do so many failed union leaders go on to be Labour Party MP’s?

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  27. krazykiwi (8,040 comments) says:

    why do so many failed union leaders go on to be Labour Party MP’s?

    Because it requires less inteligence, and is an altogether easier way to pass the time :)

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  28. krazykiwi (8,040 comments) says:

    Looking at the photo, I’d wager that one of those ports needs more visits, while the other could do with fewer :)

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  29. The Scorned (719 comments) says:

    Just fucking shoot the cunts….helllo!?

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  30. mikenmild (12,299 comments) says:

    Any other candidates for summary execution?

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  31. Monique Watson (1,062 comments) says:

    You’re a fuckwit The Scorned. Just sayin.
    And not for calling them cunts either but violent words have a way of turning into violent actions.

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  32. Davo36 (37 comments) says:

    They look good in blue i.e. conservative colours. Not sure whey they chose this hue.

    Now if they just had some ideas about productivity, competition and basically getting off their arses and working…

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  33. Mark (1,502 comments) says:

    Why is it a surprise to see labour MP’s supporting a Union movement? It is not a hell of a lot different that seeing National MP’s at an A&P Show. It is where their support base comes from.

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  34. vto (713 comments) says:

    Good to see such a large number of typically well-informed comments above.

    Tell me – why do you lot hate unions so much?

    And do you seriously think that life would be better without the unions? Like it used to be before unions?

    (as for the violent threats above you should can and ban that shit Farrar – very very very ugly look)

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  35. Put it away (2,872 comments) says:

    Mark – it’s where one of their support bases is. The other one is the trendy lefty politically correct hairy legged feminist worthless sociology degree white guilt brigade. What’s interesting is that labours gone out in support of this blatantly racist and sexist union.

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  36. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    vto,

    “Tell me – why do you lot hate unions so much?”

    They are criminal organisations that use violence, thuggery and threats to extort money from business owners. Plus, at a time when we are in a global recession and desperately need to keep our heads above water and grow our economy, these idiots are sabotaging any attempt to do so and costing our economy millions in lost work.

    Dumb. Seriously fucking DUMB.

    “And do you seriously think that life would be better without the unions? Like it used to be before unions?”

    Yes.

    Next question.

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  37. vto (713 comments) says:

    Lee01, do you know what life was like for workers before unions stood up against the slave owners? You can start by dropping the 40-hour week and annual leave… then you can keep going with all other employee protections which have come about due to worker-protection groups such as unions.

    As for your assessment of unions being criminal organisations using violence, thuggery and threats, well that’s just plain silly. Perhaps you could have a look at the violence and thuggery used by the bosses against workers at various times in our history – Waihi, Queen Street, 1951. Do you even know those events happened?

    And as for unions sabotaging the economy – who is actually causing this current dispute ? Is it the union or is it the company POAL? Don’t forget reasons and evidence for any assertions…

    You may want to ask yourself who you would trust more – the corporate heads with a history of lies and failures (1987, GFC, finance companies, Doug Graham, Wyatt Creech etc)? Or the people on the ground?

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  38. emmess (1,398 comments) says:

    It is not a hell of a lot different that seeing National MP’s at an A&P Show. It is where their support base comes from.

    Difference is though, unions are scum, farmers are the backbone of this country’s economy.

    “And do you seriously think that life would be better without the unions? Like it used to be before unions?”

    Compare apples with apples please.
    Are you saying ‘do you seriously think life was better in the mid nineteenth century?’
    Which of course is a ridiculous question that only some extreme greens or radical religious conservatives would answer yes to.

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  39. vto (713 comments) says:

    emmess, farmers aren’t the backbone of this country. That myth is long dispelled. What planet are you on?

    And also, why do you think workers conditions would not deteriorate to the same sort of level that they were before unions? What would stop that slide?

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  40. KevinH (1,253 comments) says:

    I doubt the ladies would do the hard yards and camp out overnight aka Lucy Lawless. They are there for the photo op and will bugger off to their comfortable middle class homes for the night.

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  41. ross69 (3,652 comments) says:

    > Anyone else find it hilarious that saveourport.com have chosen a National Pay blue for their campaign?

    All those real estate companies that use blue in their signs are obviously fronts for the National Party.

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  42. Lee01 (2,171 comments) says:

    vto,

    “do you know what life was like for workers before unions stood up against the slave owners?”

    Your use of the term “slave owner” tells me your grasp of history is a joke.

    Much of your concern about “life before unions” only applies to the 19th century and the Industrial revolution. Prior to that, the guild system worked very well, and that is what I advocate returning to.

    The Guild system represents ALL the people from a specific trade, from top to bottom, and encourages what is best for the whole industry. The current system only encourages class warfare and never-ending conflict.

    “who is actually causing this current dispute ? Is it the union or is it the company POAL?”

    The Union. They already have very good working conditions, and the proposed changes will not cause them to deteriorate. This is simply greed and rigid ideological stupidity from the Union leaders.

    “You may want to ask yourself who you would trust more – the corporate heads with a history of lies and failures (1987, GFC, finance companies, Doug Graham, Wyatt Creech etc)? Or the people on the ground?”

    Unions are not “the people on the ground”. I trust people who want what is best for the whole industry, regardless of whether they are employers or employees. Unions are merely foot soldiers for Labour, and cannot be trusted because of that.

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  43. RRM (10,097 comments) says:

    Show us yerrr TITS, luv!

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